Atheism Rules !
That is because your religious outlook on life is a perfectly reasonable one that you do not attempt to "shove down people's throats."
If you tried to persuade me that I needed to believe what you believe, or I would go to hell and burn for all eternity, I would pick it to pieces in a heart beat.
I am with Mr. Jefferson on this one. "Religion is a matter between Man (or Woman in this case) and his (her) god."
Paraphrased a little......True God is very personal.The Buddha was mocked by some and asked for proof of his enlightenment to which he replied nature is my witness.
Atheism rules ... What does it rule? ... The heart. ... Whose heart? ... The atheist's heart.
Fair enough. It is the simplicity of atheism that matters. Just one phrase "there is no GOD." Say those words and you are an instant atheist. The moment you think otherwise, you are fired!
... or is there more to it than just that? Enlighten us please! oops! "enlighten" is not the right word! Enlightenment leads to other things! Sorry!Nope, that's it.
And once you are enlightened, it is the only sensible choice. No talking snakes, no need to inflict it on others, no wondering if you have chosen the right religion. No worrying about going to hell if you did.
But - Here's the kicker:
Now, you are responsible for you. No one else to blame it on. It is all down to you
If you behave like a shite, you are to blame.Quicksand- think of it like this, rules to atheism, or atheism rules- as stated above, you are responsible for you. no one else to blame it on, it is all down to you.
atheism rules!
thou shall not pass the blame.- Of course everyone is responsible for his/her own actions. That's sooo obvious it does not even warrant stating.
... I guess I saw an extra "e" somewhere.
Besides atheism is sooooo simple ... no messiah ... no unholy book ... no funding ... just follow what Atheos the Greek said ... Knowledge is the key, that is god knowledge actual proof that god exists.This you will find within in meditation.
The responsibility after enlightenment is deadly serious.As an atheist its not.
You got it all wrong.Your very limited understanding is leading you to this conclusion.Right the enlightened ones damage and the atheist heals
I repeat you are a funny guy.
Mo, you are blinded by your self-realized "enlightenment." Did you even read what the other enlightened ones were telling you? Have you even ever read anything I have said? Or did you just see the word "atheist," and take it from there?
You are the one who has it all wrong.
Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.
In one way Mark you are correct as you are looking for proof of God.This world may move in synchronisity and have laws which hint at a higher entity at the same time one should look for the proof or enlightenment or contact with that super enitity.Believing is fine but one must find his own proof.
Er ... before I get blown to bits ... lemme say this ... I know about atheism. I was just kidding.
One of the atheists I was acquainted with, was a believer prior to his marriage getting screwed up!
I also understand why others turn to atheism. Constantly seeing injustice everywhere is one reason. They feel if GOD did exist, he would certainly bring about a dramatic kind of justice like it happens in the movies.
Another thing is the inconsistency in religions, and the propaganda spamming.
I understand the reasons for atheism, although I neither support nor condemn.
As for me, I believe in a GOD!
Well, what about heaven, hell, the devil ... ? I dunno! I strongly think heaven and hell are on good old Planet Earth.
Being born to a poverty stricken family is hell!
Being born to sane, loving parents (not necessarily rich, although preferable!) is heaven.
In addition, if there is a celestial heaven, great. We all stand a chance depending on the intention behind our deeds.
Hell? Well, a subterranean hell is too bad to be true. Devil? Hmmm! I really don't think so. Even if he did exist he is less powerful than GOD! So who cares?
In short ... I really dunno much! ... and I am not much bothered either ...
Then why did I participate in this discussion? JUST FOR FUN!!!!!!That is as good a reason as I have heard
Well, "a fun way of exploring" I should have said. Jokes apart, it is good to hear the opinions of everyone, right or wrong, ridiculous or intelligently accurate.
Charlotte - that is an excellent question. No one has ever asked me that before, so I am going to have to think about it and formulate a decent reply.
Briefly -
A greater understanding of the way the world works.
A strong sense of connection to and desire to protect the natural world.
A fascination of the natural world.
The ability to see most churches for what they really are.
Responsibility for my own actions and a greater understanding of what drives me to make the decisions I make.
Freedom from having to believe I am born a sinner and some how worthless unless I follow a certain credo.
A sense of humor about all of the above.
One concrete thing that is measurable is - time spent in church. I can think of no greater waste of my time that the hours and hours of uncomfortable crap I sat through as a young man having it driven into me that god was all about national pride and wars and fighting and killing and maiming and "loving," but really meaning hating.
It disturbs me no end to go into almost any British church and see regimental banners hanging from the walls and lists of "honored" war dead plastered all over the place.
I will be back with more later.
Stay tuned........maybe that is a compliment!
Jawohl mein Herr!!!
In order to be an atheist, you need to know one thing. That one thing is GOD. You've got to know the definition, what people say of him, how people react when he is discussed and so on.
This is absolutely essential in order to arrive at your decision.
Even if your parents have been atheists, the atheism that they so vehemently force down your esophagus, has to definitely make some reference to GOD. They keep on telling you there is no GOD. Then you ask, "momma, whath is GOJ?"
Then your momma tells you. She is certain to give you a description, and tell you of the stupidity of the people who say there is such a thing as GOD.
So, that's how it happens. You are now like your parents, you have been made an atheist. It is only later on when your intelligence increases, you are able to state reasons by observation and inference.
If one, or both your parents had been believers, then the statement that atheists are made and not born, need not be supported by any evidence.
So, an atheist has to know GOD, in order to disbelieve in him. So will this tarnish the accepted definition of atheist?
Atheists are people who know GOD, but disbelieve in him!
ROTFLMH&AO!
NOTABLE: You said in the previous post that "you were brought up to believe in Christianity." That further supports my statement.That is the best you can do?
I do not dis-believe in god.
There is no such thing as god.
In fact it wouldn't even come up in conversation unless some one says it exists.
And my family were anything but atheist.
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I am not sure all of these changes can be considered "positive," but I will try in greater detail now.
I meant what I said also - Not one single person has ever asked me this question before you did.
I guess the main benefit was losing the "cognitive dissonance," that comes with trying to believe something that doesn't make any sense. I won't go into details as to why it does not make sense, because I think I have probably covered that.
I think part of society's issues come from people denying their true selves. How can you preach love and understanding, yet at the same time favor wars, and all the other nationalistic religious positions?
It is no wonder that a large proportion of the population is on anti-depressants and seeing mental health therapists. I don't know the figures, but I am sure it is a lot. And I am not saying that this is the entire problem, but I am sure it is part of it.
Once you take a belief in god (and I will use the christian god because that is what I was bought up to believe in) out of the equation - It opens up all sorts of possibilities that previously were ignored. Maybe the muslims have it right? maybe the hindus do? maybe Eric von Danniken was right?
This means exploring other options in a open way rather than coming from the standpoint of "well, I already know the TRUTH, so what is this other rubbish that I already know is false?"
Most people I argue with automatically assume that I have not done any research, not seriously considered their religion and have decided to "believe in evolution as my religion."
Nothing could be further from the truth. I spent a great deal of time seeking an understanding of a wide variety of beliefs before I came to my conclusion. I won't say I explored every single one, or in as great a detail as the christian religion, but still....
If I had to choose one to believe in, it would probably be Zen Buddhism or one of the Native American Indian philosophies because they teach a respect for the natural world and have an understanding of just how important we are in the great scheme of things.
It also allows me to try and see things as they really are. Not how some religious book tells me how it is. All the time I believe god has his hand in things, I am, to a certain extent, absolving myself of any responsibility.
Positive? I am not sure. Some of the things I see people doing (in the name of god or not) lead me to wonder sometimes.....
More to follow as time and thoughts allow......God bless you Mark.
Nice try
May Darwin's blessings be upon you also my child........Thank you oh salami.
I'm enthused to have asked you a question never before asked of you. I wait with eagerness and an open mind for the expanded answer, at your leisure of course.
Not sure I believe in the Big Bang either
Free will all the way......Big Bang - yeah, Maths..... But the kind of maths I do not understand. Not the 2+2 sort of maths I can get to grips with. I have no idea what a quark is. And much as I have tried to grasp it, I just do not understand how they measure them or how this applies.
I just cannot seem to get my head around the idea that the universe has a beginning and I rather get the feeling that the scientists who postulated this theory started from exactly the same place as the religious people.
In the beginning.....
How can there be a beginning?
Free will - I have, of course, argued both positions pretty aggresively, but, in the end I think we do have free will.
Within certain limitations.
I have no doubt you have said to yourself, "why on earth did I choose to do that?" after making a decision that you thought you had free will over.
Yes we have free will. But - being aware of our motivations is key to being able to exercise this free will
One slight difference -
People sometimes come back from Des MoinesI nearly spit out my beer! lol
Sorry.
That is considered alcohol abuse where I come from
But I think the Alcohol Abuse that Mark was referring to was when Sandra just about spit out her beer when she read what spryte posted. Wasted beer!
Well the reason that brings me here to reply to your post stems back to where Arthur (dad) thought Flossie (mom) was looking pretty cute one night.
Nope hang on I'll have to go back further than that. Now it goes like this. Alexander (Arthur's dad) thought Barbara (Alexander's wife) was looking pretty cute one night. And a few years later Flossie's parents were looking at each other the same way.
Nope hang on again. It goes like this ... Oh heck I could go back for generations.
But only for about 6,000 years if you want this tale to be believable.
But that is not what I said.
I said
Not that I didn't think about it. I did think about it and came to the (possibly erroneous) conclusion that I did have free will. So, does it really matter if I think I do when I don't?
But this only works retro-actively. Everything is cause and effect. Thus, if I choose to order the BLT, despite the fact that I am pre-ordained to order the beef (for whatever preceding causes and effects), I am changing the outcome.
I have no idea what the ramifications are for doing so, but it does not negate my ability to make that decision. And I certainly cannot consider the possible ramifications for every single decision I make, because I am not privy to all the possibilities.
What if the beef is rancid..........?
spryte - no more will I chastise Shadesbreath for spelling proteins, protiens or everything, everythign
Although, it is compliment.
Not that I am a stickler for such things .....And I think this was overlooked -
No, it was god's will. You are in no way responsible. You can relax now
Well I already given in to every action having a reaction and one down the line it goes. or there is no such thing as free lunch or what goes around comes around, or karma, or (i forget what knowyourself said it was called) galgia or gia, anyways something like that.
I am all for free will too, but I also know that on a subconscious level I have been fed , so in many ways, it was never my will, but always the will of others. I can change it but to be brainwashed to the point of not really knowing what "I" really want, that is another question. lol
And included in this is also what we inherite from nature. Our genes, our ancestors etc.
example: death
This reminds me of The Princess Bride, when what's his face poisoned one of the glasses of wine, and he goes on this schpeel about, I know you know, I know, you know, soo...blah,blah, blah...
then the Prince lets him do his deducing and drinks the glass of wine, and says, well I saw this moment coming, so I had been making myself immune to the poison. lol. sorry....
it's funny!!!!
I must have missed Mark's statement regarding Shadesbreath and alcohol abuse, Ben...can you steer me to it?
And oh no...Mark...you are about to be beaten with Shadesbreath's grammar cane. I'll just be hiding behind the door over here....out of the way....I could...but I don't need to. I'm quite capable of making sure that when I use a quote in a shallow attempt to sound superior that first, I make sure it's spelled correctly.
Are you sure that you're not Shade"s twin sister?
That's me, a superior moron!Why? Does the idea of two totally unrelated people, both being of superior intellect, wit and charm sound threatening?
I'm out of here for now too...commuter fun time beckons! Catch everyone later!I'm from Texas where we shoot anything threatening and ask questions later.
Actually I find it rather sophisticated.
I take consolation in the fact that you have actually taken it easy on me and have offered me a chance to learn at your feet. Such truth is overwhelming, especially to a moron possessing so much potential.
BTW, I will gladly be the first to sign up for your English Grammar 101 class.
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I tried to go back a few pages to try and get the gist of this thread, but my brain seized up.
So I'll cop out and restrict myself to a shallow string of smilies above.
P.S. How many of these mammoth threads are you guys involved with?
I stand (sit) in awe!
Those monkeys that we evolved from, are still around. How come? Oh, probably only a selected few monkeys had the privilege of joining the evolution string ... and get evolved. The other guys were left out. Poor fellows!
Only the chosen ones got to get evolved.
Darwin went to bed early. :LOL: I meanJust cannot be bothered to educate yourself huh?
Not worth the effort?
Waste of time?
What exactly?It is just that Darwin had more evidence to suggest that man evolved from monkeys than he had, to suggest otherwise.
The very same natural selection method by means of which we are "destined" to evolve into two other species. By transmutation or whatever ... (my memory lets me down)
The Morlocks and the Eloys. Who will be the morlocks? The fittest? I don't think so!
How about what Hodge said?
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Atheists do not go forth and multiply!
But they try.
I do not understand the link between atheists and enlightenment !!! ... and multiplying. Please "enlighten" me.
An atheist can get enlightened :)then become poet or preacher
life is strange
There are so many jokes here it is not even funny
If I told you to "go forth and multiply," I am basically saying "F*** off."
Multiplication, as in mathematics, can be considered as "enlightenment,"
I, as an atheist, consider myself to be "enlightened," because I have cast off all the superstitions about god, which is funny if you think about it. An enlightened atheist. Mostly because of the offense it will cause to those who believe.....
Going forth and multiplying, multiplication, enlightenment, sexually reproducing, atheism. Take your pick as to what you find funny.
After all, that is the true purpose of life - to experience and enjoy itenlightened atheist. -new one, never heard that before- an entirely new species.
It is the title of my next poetry book
- best of luck.
I am going to need it. I couldn't write a poem worth reading if my life depended on it.
- try, try till you succeed
My word! What atrocious language, coming from the Internet's most respected atheist!
I saw stars ... between the "F" and the "off!"
Now that you confirm the atheist's view of the true purpose of life ... Mark is sometimes referred to around here as oh salami of the god of darwinism.
I guess now he can be referred to as oh F'n salami of the god of darwinism.
That is awesome !
Atheism Rules!
I wonder what atheists do on the twenty fifth of December.
We know what they DON'T do!
I wonder if they give presents to their kids. Stash them under the furniture, since they would not have a tree either? - Surely that's one day on which they don't "athesize."
I guess, then, that's ONE day of the year when "santa rules"
Or perhaps they take it as a day to celebrate the love they have for thier family and friends. Perhaps they don't use objectives like presents to present their love for one another and perhaps they are more dependant on the nature of love then a name called god.
Something to think about when cutting away on your almighty high horses as to the way you think about people who share different ideals as yourself.
Your not so nice all the time and if you really wanted to be treated with respect for your beliefs then it would probably do you some good to show it for others as well.
This might just have "killed" the thread?????
Mark, and I exchanged a few thoughts several pages back. At one point, I realised that this is (at least could be) a rather "fun" thread. I am merely haveng some fun. He agreed. So, lets not get too serious about it all.
Sometimes jokes are at someone elses expense. I don't believe it is in this instance. The joke is on "atheism", not so much it's proponents.Hey Guys, this is a call to action. Let's keep this forum alive ...
I guess Mark is on vacation.
No, Mark is not on vacation. What were you expecting a response to exactly?
The fact that you are unable to understand the term "a-theism"?
But do not worry - I will be celebrating the winter solstice along with all the christians who believe it is a christian holiday and that the best way to celebrate the birth of their non-existent savior is to buy a load of crap and kill some trees.
Only without the crap and the tree-killing.Longer days. More sunlight. A few days off work. Excuse for a party.
Atheists are reasonable, negotiable!
You got a great sense of humour
One thing I have to admit is as much as I have argued with Mark he being an athesit and me a believer,he guided me when I was wondering how to use the smilies,which reflects his decency.- There is nothing indecent about being an atheist!!! They make us believers believe harder. In fact belief, like anything else needs some form of opposition in order to "stay alive." It's atheists who make us realize that we are the opposite of the "ism" that they profess.
That is the best BS reason for believing whatever it is you believe I have heard all day. And I have heard some good ones......
Thanks for the laugh.Mark, Why are you so pro Atheist? Why do you feel the need to pound on others, can you not speak to others and be less critical? Why would you want them to dislike you or think you are rude, when you are definitely a nice person and I know deep inside you have a heart.
Now, how about some "non-sequiture" stuff? ..........
Belief is the result of knowledge. Proof is a word that does not make sense here. It is knowledge that gives rise to belief. So don't blame us believers. Blame it on the knowledge that "comes our way!"
Please add this to the other "good ones" you have heard! Well, if you just meditate long enough, you will discover that you are mistaken in this "knowledge.". Pity the "knowledge," that "came your way" via forced indoctrination from a young age is so difficult to understand that every one has a different idea of what it is - so different in fact that they are prepared to kill each other over the correct way of "interpreting," this "knowledge." "
I think you need to look the word "knowledge," up in a dictionary, because "baseless belief in something that doesn't exist," is not a valid definition.
This is not even top 100 quality. Who mentioned proof? Because a lot of you believers think the bible is "proof." "Forced indoctrination" at a young age can only succeed in generating a "belief."
I am certain that the only problems that you ever faced are, the milkman not turning up, or not enough ice cubes for your whiskey, or the neighbor's stereo being too loud, or the cleaner messing up your favorite jacket.
Well to those who have faced problems in life and have been kicking obstacles for a long period of time, begin sometime to wonder why things happen the way they do. When you analyze these events, you realize there is some kind of a "plot" behind these happenings.
Years later, you may interpret these unfortunate events as safety valves functioning as they were designed to.
You cannot attribute these to nature. Nature does not fit in here. Nature is not all that versatile although it may cause monkeys or donkeys to evolve into humans by "natural" selection.
If you put these events to mind over matter and suggest that these are caused by fears manifesting, then we come across a thing called consciousness. The conscience arising from this gives us the power to select ethics for our day to day activities.
Putting this also down to nature is very convenient is it not? Let's not! Ah, well, if you want to talk about personal issues and facing problems in my life, I would be happy to share a rather long list.
And if you are saying that these are part of a "plot" sent to test me, I would certainly take issue with that.
Interesting assumption you have made though:
That I have never faced a bigger issue than "the milkman not turning up, or not enough ice cubes for your whiskey, or the neighbor's stereo being too loud, or the cleaner messing up your favorite jacket."
How very judgmental of you. Which I find to be a trait typical of many christians, and is, in fact, one of the many reasons I have decided your beliefs are worthless, and there is no god.
But thanks for showing me the love.I admire the atheist's decision (your decision) to select ethics as a way of life although there is (in your opinion) no GOD to penalize those who select to "go berserk" and live it up irrespective of who is gonna get hurt.
I am also aware that there is no penalty for disbelief and no reward for believing either. GOD is only interested in the intentions which govern each action of ours. How do I know this? Well, some form of indoctrination I guess.
This "form" of indoctrination reacts very well with one's common sense and creates that "knowledge."
It is comforting to know there is a GOD, once you get to know it. This is not for the sake of asking for favors, or forgiveness for one's anti-social acts, but it is just that you feel safe with GOD around.
That is my story. I know yours. However, saying there is no GOD brings the train to it's final destination. Going beyond would be, and could be interesting. Don't seek GOD, just seek answers. How does one do that?
Well, it's every man for himself.
Top 100?Interesting that you choose not to respond to my points. Guess you already have all the answers from GOD, and no one else counts. Good for you.
Jenny ! Good to see you back
You have to watch this film. It explains everything you need to know about life, death and the afterlife
http://markpknowles.com/best-short-film … long-time/No, I do not all the answers, and I did not chose not to respond to your points. I am sure you are referring to the "plot sent to test you." Well, I am not sure about these. In fact I never referred to any "testing" as such.
Problems occur just to neutralize some unsocial act performed in a previous existence or it is just a manifestation of one's fears. I dunno, and I dunno if anyone knows.
I watched the video which your link pointed to, thanks.
During my schooldays I have heard that what happens after death is exactly what you were conditioned to believing would happen. Well ... for a while ... and then everything becomes clear. I cannot form an opinion. Your video supports this, and I guess you do too.
O.K so I see this is one of the longest threads , my goodness so many of us had so much to talk about.
I just have to ask you Make Money, is the real question about Creationsim vs. Darwinsim, the removal of lifes pupose?
I mean, in some ways I reject Darwin because believing that life has no purpose leaves me empty inside and spiritually dead inside to know that we don't mean anything and will never amount to more than a major f-up in the realm of the living and knowing that "we" us living human beings who have the ability to make the lives we lives has no meaning since it will be dead and gone and the suffering was for nothing at all.
Though I do love Darwinism because it does have the ability to humble humanity because we are not much more than a grain of sand seemingly smaller than a quark in cosmic pespective.
Both however haven't done a bit of good for life as we know it anyways because we still suffer no matter what, so all I could ever come up with is that the Buddhist had it right to say, Life is suffering.
While evolution doesn't bother me, I have the hardest time ever believing that there is nothing more, it just feel that some concepts deaden the spirit, both theologically and atheistically.
One day, I hope there could be a middle ground. I guess I can never really understand why there even has to be a debate over Creationism and Evolution when it seems that acceptance of both sufices well to help in the spirit of life. What makes you think life has a purpose other than to be lived?
Evolution is a fact. It has nothing to do with purpose, or suffering, or anything, it is just the way of things. Once you can dispense with all the purpose, born in sin and suffering crap, you can get on and enjoy life.
I know I doBecause I don't know what to live for. Plus I didn't say I think evolution is a lie.
I think theologians are liars but I don't think that God is a lie either.Live your life for you - and your children.
Play musical instruments, learn another language, travel to new places, learn to paint, meditate, drink more wine, eat too much chocolate - live !. To quote a favorite film, "Revel in your time."
Theologians are just protecting their interests. They know no more of "god" than you do
I can promise you there are no rewards in an afterlife.
Why should you think your time on this planet is meaningless? More importantly, why would you think my time is meaningless? No hope? Better believe in god then.......
This is why Atheism Rules !
Proof !
Mike -
I have seen some of these before, and have now watched the ones I hadn't.
They all say the same thing
"It must have been a god, because I believe in god, therefore this wondrousness must have been created."
Not a scrap of science, or a single reason that does not rely on an inability to accept basic reality.
As far as the last quote:
Nothing is demonstrated other than Ben Stein's ignorance.
There is no evidence of a god, merely a few people's baseless opinions that "It must have been because it is so clever."
Not really a valid argument.
And if I was going to "return home," there are dozens of more appealing religions.Not really Mike.
But you keep on making them up. I am sure it makes you feel better. Less hopeless?Semantics.....
Evolutionary biology has never attempted to answer the question of abiogenesis.
But, that seems to be a good basis for "believing" it was all down to a god
"Well, science hasn't satisfactorily answer the question of how it all began, therefore it must have been a god."
As I have said many times, evolution is not the reason I decided there was no god. Common sense did that.
What are you guys going to do when science does answer the question?.........
Burn everyone at the stake?There is a good argument that evolution was "invented," well before Darwin:
Animaxander and Aristotle both pointed out the obvious.
But, yes, thinking the earth was not flat, or the world was not the center of the Universe, or that Christ was not God were all valid reasons for a good burning.I did not know that. I will have to brush up on my ancient Sanskrit.
And of course, this religion is much, much older than christianity, therefore much, much more valid.True its very old and very wise.It understands Jesus and Mohammed to be prophets like Krishna was so in one aspect is the most broad minded religion.Hinduism has seen so many enlightened ones before Jesus and Mohammed.
I cannot remember the number properly but something like 5000 of the 8,400,000 are human species depending on their evolution.or level of awareness
This is what I am saying I really do not know how life started.
I see that Darwin is back.
Way back in this forum I had made reference to the fact that there are still monkeys around, and I jokingly suggested that these monkeys are the descendants of the ones that refused to participate in the evolution program! You chose not to respond.
What baffles me is that the missing link is never ever discussed.The "missing link," euphemism has been discussed ad infinitum. There is a wealth of evidence that supports a common ancestor, and, of course the theory of evolution; and there are many links to this evidence in this thread.
What baffles me is believers refusal to look at this evidence dismiss it out of hand because it proves the bible is false......
And I am not sure why I would need to respond to the same question with the same answer over and over and over.The missing link.
One day the zoo-keeper noticed that the orang-utan was reading two books - the Bible and Darwin's The Origin of Species. In surprise he asked the ape, "Why are you reading both those books"?
"Well," said the orang-utang, "I just wanted to know if I was my brother's keeper or my keeper's brother."
Q: How do you tell the sex of a chromosome?
A: Pull down its genes.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Darwin1: It was the logical next step after coming down from the trees.
Darwin2: The fittest chickens cross the road.
If Darwin was right, you will probably figure it out in a few million years.
Yay Jokes, my favorite
I have loads of these and will happily share
God said he has come in different forms like Krishna ,Buddha and Jesus.
All humans have god in them some have understood like Jesus and others will with time.There will come a time when every single human becomes like Jesus.
Yes he was an enlightened or awkened or perfect being I agree with that.,
Even ten thousand thundering typhoons cannot dislodge an atheist's belief ... or disbelief.
Disbelief.
Although, I have said it many times. If you have some proof, I am all over it. I will be grovelling, judging every one else, inflicting what my god says on all and sundry, trying to have my beliefs written into law and begging for money to build a new church with the best of them.So sorry about this, but I do not have proof. Nobody has. This is what I have always been saying. But that does not mean ... Oh! we've discussed that before.
By the way, belief is not about building churches or temples or mosques or synagogues or tombs. Belief is a knowledge of the existence of a GOD.
Building places of worship is associated with religion. I know nothing about religion.
Thanks for reminding me about Captain Haddock (Tintin). I always felt Herge was so creative in inventing such non sensical insults. Billions of bilious blue blistering barnacles will it help change some one?
Hi CountryWomen, what continues to amuse me is Captain Haddock's reaction to the sound of a popping cork!
Pop=cork. Cork=bottle. Bottle=WHISKEY!!!
On the subject of whiskey ... I suppose that is the only spirit atheists believe in ... provided they have enough ice cubes. You forgot to mention the Brand of Whiskey Loch Lomond
Scientists and God
One day a group of Darwinian scientists got together and decided that man
had come a long way and no longer needed God. So they picked one Darwinian
to go and tell Him that they were done with Him.
The Darwinian walked up to God and said, "God, we've decided that we no
longer need you. We're to the point that we can clone people and do many
miraculous things, so why don't you just go on and get lost."
God listened very patiently and kindly to the man. After the Darwinian was
done talking, God said, "Very well, how about this? Let's say we have a
man-making contest." To which the Darwinian happily agreed.
God added, "Now, we're going to do this just like I did back in the old
days with Adam."
The Darwinian said, "Sure, no problem" and bent down and grabbed himself a
handful of dirt.
God looked at him and said, "No, no, no. You go get your own dirt!!!!" That punch line was very good. Thanks Mike for that joke.
Nice one
Mark- You made my day. I will now sleep laughing at your jokes and have a great week ahead .
My pleasure. I have hundreds of these
I guess you can share those so that you will have non regular crowd like me also checking this forum. Otherwise I see only rhetoric people who believe will believe and people who don't won't no matter what one says to the other their is never going to be an agreement. At least by way of humor one can get a serious point across in a funny way (at least laugh about it even if some one disagrees with the content). My final good bye for the day and Have a great week ahead.
The founder of atheism did not leave behind any written instructions.
Damn right. Nothing to fight over here
Not that you know anything of religion.........
From the Book of Charles ... Or From Mark 1 chapter ...
Atheists take great pride in bashing believers.
Well, if you have something other than a judgmental opinion based on nothing, I would be happy to discuss it with you. So far all you have done is attack me and accuse me of never having had to deal with a personal issue more demanding than whether or not I had enough ice in my drink.
I am sorry that my refusal to believe your fairy tale offends you. I am more sorry that the foundation for your belief system is so obviously precarious.
Eventually, you will work it out.
Trust me, you will feel much better when you divest yourself of the obvious cognitive dissonance that is making you so obnoxious.I guess you are offended by something or everything.
You shouldn't be, because no offense was ever intended or encrypted. In fact you may have not noticed that I have been actually agreeing with you on most things, including the video which you recommended that I watch. Ah so you didn't mean to offend me when you said this:
And I guess you do not think this is a judgmental or condescending statement to make either.
My mistake.
If an atheist and a believer were drowning, which one would you save?
I got the following in an email, and just couldn't resist posting it here.
"In Florida , an atheist created a case against the upcoming Easter &
Passover holy days. He hired an attorney to bring a discrimination case
against Christians, Jews & observances of their holy days. The argument
was ~ it is unfair that atheists had no such recognized day(s).
The case was brought before a judge. After listening to the passionate
presentation by the lawyer, the judge banged his gavel declaring, 'Case
dismissed.'
The lawyer immediately stood objecting to the ruling saying, 'Your
honor, how can you possibly dismiss this case? The Christians have
Christmas, Easter & others. The Jews have Passover, Yom Kippur &
Hanukkah. Yet my client & all other atheists have no such holidays.'
The judge leaned forward in his chair saying, 'But you do. Your client,
counsel, is woefully ignorant.'
The lawyer said, 'Your Honor, we are unaware of any special observance
or holiday for atheists.'
The judge said, 'The calendar says April 1st is 'April Fools Day.' Psalm
14:1 states 'The fool says in his heart, there is no God.' Thus, it is
the opinion of this court, that if your client says there is no God,
then he is a fool. Therefore, April 1st is his day. Court is
adjourned. " -
Good one, eh MarkOh yes.
Although, I suspect I find it funny for reasons that are different than yours .
Happy fsmasI don't know if any country on the planet has the right to equality for religious holidays like India does
http://www.worldtravelguide.net/country … India.html
Oh well, not to worry. The bus ad campaign started in London already. Coming to a city near you soon
Thank goodness we have lawyers instead of priests judging in our courts in England......Why? God will look after the righteous and move them out of the way. Surely?..............
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No, what is really good is you believing there is a cliff.
I bet you believe you have a job all lined up in the afterlife - Standing at the gates of hell saying -
"See, I told you so."
Merry fsmas. May you be touched by His Noodly appendage in the near future.Why - me of course. I am His Anointed Representative on Hubpages.
The cheque is in the post, Angelic One. All 1 Euro and 32 cents.
Hi Noodlyness accepts all contributions withe equal love and acceptance.
CheapskateThat is a considerable sum of money. It is the savings I made from this wonderful thing called Water for Gas. Apparently, it makes hydrogen from water. Amazing. I do not have a car, but fitted it to my neighbour's donkey. Never seen the old thing move so fast, and it definitely eats less hay.
Well, if you were truly interested in Hi Nodlyness' love and compassion, and genuinely repented and wanted to enter the Great Italian Eatery in the Sky, you would try harder and find more money to continue His work on Earth.......
And don't believe the Water 4 Gas scams my son. Reverend Misha will descend to explain in good time.
And after a quick look at your hubs - I like yours too
Mark- FSMAS (I know from Christmas you have taken MAS but what does FS stand for?) I checked online and got this link (http://www.fsmas.org.sg/ )...LOL
Now don't tell me you were planning to raise such a huge bonfire on Dec25th that we need to avail FSMAS services...heheFSM = Flying Spaghetti Monster
The One True Religion
Maybe in 500yrs (if we ever get that far) Mark will be the founding "prophet" of a worldwide religion. "fsmasism". They may even erect monuments of a gold haired "angel" with a goatee and all covered in spaghetty.
Oh, and meat balls at his feet. (Vegetarian look-a-likes fo course)Feel free. We have them everywhere here(abouts) already converted to art galleries etc.
Some are done up rather nicely.
Send me apicture.
PS I am a pretty handy person. Done quite a few reno's, I may have some tips for you.
There was a trend a while ago in London to turn them into pubs. This is one of teh nicest I have seen in Holland - a private house :
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