Who is Christ

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bearnmomposted 14 years ago
When Christ referred to himself he said simply, "I am." He who believes in me believes in the Father. Therefore, the Father is Christ and Christ is the Father. Today, ask yourself if you are a believer and how you can spread your belief.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As a matter of interest - why do you need to "spread your belief"?
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  pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  @mark...spreading is something which i never understood..but i guess it is important for many people..i personally consider belief in god or disbelief in god as personal matter..
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  micadeoluposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Christ is the image of the invisible God. The first born among the dead. Simply put Christ is that essence that reveals the truth. He is the right hand of God. He is light. He is the Spirit of truth. But Jesus was the son of Mary upon whom the spirit of Christ descended.
  
  When Jesus was talking, it was not really him but Christ speaks in him. The same can happen to us also after being adopted as God's son by the word of truth. He begins to live in us and control our thoughts, speeches and actions.
  
  Accept him today. He waits at the door.
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  NightEmpressposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Never heard the bell ringing !
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It might be helpful if you actually had truth to go with your spin you talk of.
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  getitriteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  If you want someone to accept your Christ, then, at least make some sense, man. This sounds like the regurgitation of a holy roller sermon.
  
  Show me proof that an invisible imaginary entity is controlling your thoughts, speeches, and actions, then we can move forward.
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  pburgerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think you should re-frame the question as Who was Christ?
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  Ashmiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There is only one true statement any of us can make.
  
  That statement is "I AM".
  
  When the mind adds to it by saying "I am this or that, born at, married to, employed by, mother of" etc etc we make the mistake of taking imagination for reality.
  
  The "I am" is a fact. The "I am this or that" is not certain.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree.
  But it's a hard saying, one that many cannot fathom.
  So, in the scenario of salvation which God effected, the distinction between the Father and the manifestation of the Son still needs to be shown to mankind.
  That's how the belief should be spread----through Christ.
  The Bible says no man comes to the Father except by Christ, and that He (Jesus) is the only mediator between God and man.
  Do you understand that?
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  Ashmiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As a contemplative, my understanding is that Jesus was the living example of God. If we follow His example as well as His teachings we are on the path to union with God.
  
  We must know the difference between God, the Soul (I am) and the Person (who we think we are).....the three appear different but are one in Essence.
  
  When the Soul realises that the person is an expression of Herself and not different from Her...the Soul unites with God and becomes as One with Him. She (the Soul) the bride becomes one with the bridegroom (the Father or God)
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  Ashmiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Christ is the "I AM"...the pure feeling of being. To stay at this gate, leads to the kingdom of God.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I beg to differ.
  Christ was and is a reality. He's not a feeling (although He does have feelings!)
  
  I find your view very abstract. God isn't that. He's very knowable.
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  Ashmiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  God cannot be anything but abstract. As soon as you define Him you limit Him. He is infinite, eternal and omnipresent. Any attempt to concretize God is to deny Him these qualities.
  
  He is knowable only by being One with Him. Knowledge is limited to the senses and it is impossible to know God in this way. We can know Him via His expressions which we as well as the rest of creation is a part. But a reflection of the Sun is not the Sun. We are but shadows yet emanate from God.
  
  Whatever comes from a "thing" must have the elements of it's cause. We all come from God therefore we are One with Him. We do not know this however. Only through Christ can we know this as a direct experience.
  
  Christ was real, as a person, who adopted the attitude of God, and so was not separate from Him. If we follow Him we too are One with Him.
  
  Reality is not what we perceive in time and space. It is beyond the mind altogether. .....we are in this world but not of this world.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I've never said Christ was separate from God. He isn't separate.
  His manifestation in the flesh was a distinct (not separate) occurrence.
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  Ashmiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Fair enough. The issue was whether God was knowable as a concrete entity. Definable and describable. However: We each experience God in our own way. Whatever way makes one imitate the life of Christ is the correct way for them. There are many paths but they all lead to God.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe you think so.
  But what other way could be a valid way than for God to "become" a man so that man could relate to Him?
  All other roads have no perfect example like that of Christ.
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  Ashmiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I beg to differ. The buddha, Lao Tsu, Ramana Maharishi, St Teresa of Avila, Al Hallaj, St Augustin etc etc ....is but to name a few of the many, who transcended their personal self and merged as One with God.
  
  Jesus is not unique. This is the ignorance imposed by the established church....if you think this is just a personal opinion, it is not. A dear friend of mine of more than 25 years (a cloistered nun in the carmelite order) will tell you the same. A more enlightened soul I have never come across. One who has truly mastered the way of perfection.....division and hatred she says is born of ignorance of oneself and ignorance of the word of God.
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  errum fattahposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  who is christ? jesus?
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  paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi friend bearnmom
  
  "I am" is not a complete sentence. Jesus said that he is Son of Adam; so the complete sentence would be "I am Son of Adam "; it is a very weak ground to make him god with such incomplete sentences as this one; a wild guess. What a incomplete god they make out of this incomplete sentence.
  
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  I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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  Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Minor correction: I Am is a complete sentence.
  In Hebrew: ehyeh asher ehyeh.
  I am I; I am (He) that is.
  
  It is a totality/fullness not a name.
  
  I am (no pun intended) a peaceful human being
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  getitriteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Reading this, it is clear that this concept makes NO sense. The spread of nonsense should not be promoted.
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  TLMinutposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They asked if he was the one they were looking for and he said, "I am." That doesn't have anything to do with being God which he always said he wasn't.
  
  He was the example of a wholly connected to God man like all men should be. (Probably women too. )
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It would be really nice if you actually understood that statement, but since it is out of context, due to unforeseen(to you) factors, I guess you'll never learn the actual truth.
  
  What a shame?
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Christ is a non-existent person people believed walked Earth at some point.
  
  However, if you are trying to make a reference to Jesus? Then, please refrain from calling him Christ, because that was not his name. "Christ" was given to him for a last name, when Christianity came into being, years after his execution.
  
  The actual person "Jesus" has no last name.
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  Dave Mathewsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Christ is Jesus, the Son of Almighty God, and the second person in the Triune God. The word or name Christ means the chosen one of God, the redeemer and saviour.
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paarsurreyposted 14 years ago
Who is Christ?

It is Jesus Christ son of Mary ; a Jew; he was never a god or so of god. He was son of man; as he himself acknowledged so many times. He was a humble man who love God Allah YHWH and God Allah YHWH loved him that is why the Creator-God Allah YHWH selected him as Messenger Prophet for reformation of the Jews. He was not sent to Gentiles or to the people of the world as being preached by the Church now and by the cunning Paul to start with.

Jesus did not die on the Cross; he migrated from Judea and went to India to deliver the Message assigned to him by God Allah YHWH to the lost tribes of Israel who were settled there. He died a natural and peaceful death in Srinagar, Kashmir, India.

Quran mention factual account of Jesus' life and his teachings; Bible gives a distorted view of him and his teachings.

I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran.

Thanks

I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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  aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How do you/we know that the Quran does not give a more distorted view?
  It came MANY centuries later that the Bible.
  Is it just because Mohammad said? Is that enough?
  Why do Indians want to claim Jesus Christ anyway. They are mostly Hindu, NO? Are you suggesting He was Hindu too?
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  paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi friend aka-dj
  
  If a thing is distorted what would on say.
  
  Hindu scriptures and Buddhist scriptures mention of Jesus in India; please google for it; seeing is believing.
  
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  I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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  Believer of Jesusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Jesus DID NOT die in India! He died on Mount Calvary!!!
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hindus accept Jesus as a messenger of god as they have broad minded philosophy.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Christ did not exist. Jesus existed. Christ was not his name. Please, do try and get it right.
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  paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi friend Cagsil
  
  If you want to go that deep ; then even Jesus was not his name; neither his mother nor his disciples addressed him as Jesus. Jesus is in Greek while Jesus and Mary spoke Aramaic. They resorted to calling him Jesus as they lost the original scriptures in Aramaic; and they did not know as to what to do.
  
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  I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm glad you think that things were lost. People buy into this garbage.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The Prophet Isa, -Jesus- of Islam.
  
  Is not the Same Jesus Christ, Christians are awaiting.
  
  All one has to do is read the Ingeel -New Testament-, and compare it to the Hadith which speak on Isa and the eschatology of Islam.
  
  Two very different Jesus.
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  Judah's Daughterposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  1 John 2:22, son of Ishmael...
  
  "Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son."
  
  allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, for their God is the Father, Who came to us in the flesh of Jesus Christ, His Son. He is the same LORD, Who now indwells us by His Spirit.
  
  allah is not a father, nor does he have a son ~ so who is the liar?
  
  The names of allah:
  Ad-Darr, The Creator of the Harmful; he who creates which makes one despondent
  
  Al-Badi,The Originator, The Incomparable; he who creates wonders in the universe without any design
  
  Al-Kfahid, The Abaser, he who diminishes or decreases: "We have put chains around their necks chin high, and forced them to lift up their heads."
  
  Al-Matin, The Forceful One; his subtle scheme is exceedingly firm
  
  Al-Mudhill, The Dishonoror; he who lowers and puts one in abasement or degradation
  
  Al-Mumit, The Taker of Life; he who created death
  
  Al-Mutakabbiru, The Most Proud One
  
  Al-Mu'akhkhir,The Delayer
  
  Al-Qabid, The Constrictor
  
  Al-Warith,The Inheritor of All; he who has everlasting ownership of all things. Finite man only has temporary ownership, and at death all creatures have nothing.
  
  I am straight-forward child of "I AM".
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  paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi friend Judah's Daughter
  
  Jesus was from the proginey of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob; and to say otherwise that Jesus existed before Abraham, Isaac and Jacob would neither be factual nor natural and would be fallacious and mythical.
  
  Quran has rejected this notion with reasons at many times in Quran; I quote one such place:
  
  [2:140] Say: ‘Do you dispute with us concerning Allah, while He is our Lord and your Lord? And for us are our works, and for you your works; and to Him alone we are sincerely devoted.’
  [2:141] Do you say that Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and his children were Jews or Christians? Say, ‘Do you know better or Allah?’ And who is more unjust than he who conceals the testimony that he has from Allah? And Allah is not unaware of what you do.
  [2:142] Those are a people that have passed away; for them is what they earned, and for you shall be what you earn; and you shall not be questioned as to what they did.
  
  http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … ;verse=137
  
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  I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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  Judah's Daughterposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So you're saying Isa was a liar? Oh, of course, Islam's Isa [aka jesus] is the Bible's 'false prophet'; he is not the Jesus of the Bible. John 8:58 clearly states, "Jesus said to them, 'Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.'" Who is the liar, but he who denies the Father and the Son? Nice way to avoid acknowledging the fact that allah is not a father, nor does he have a son. he is not the same God as the God of the Bible. Speaking of Ishmael and Isaac, Gal 4:28-29 state, "And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise. But just as then the son who was conceived according to the flesh [Ishmael] persecuted the son who was conceived according to the Spirit [Isaac], so it is now." Ishmael was a Jew, just like Isaac, yet Muslims consider the Jews Satan. You are obviously not the sons of Isaac, or you would be descended from Jacob, the father of Israel, the Jews! And Jacob's twin brother, Esau, is the one God hated. Which is it?
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Will Bensonposted 14 years ago
Who is Christ??

Why don't you go to Northampton and ask him.

http://www.benningtonbanner.com/ci_15042337
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
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  ASHWINSPGAposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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Mekenzieposted 14 years ago
Jesus asked the same question: "Then he (Jesus) asked them, "But who do you say I am?" Peter replied, "You are the Messiah sent from God!" Luke 9:20
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Jeramiposted 14 years ago
The best and truest way to express what you believe in;
is to allow them to watch what you are doing.
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Twenty One Daysposted 14 years ago
Christ is Anointing.
So, the proof people are looking for in the man Jesus and his work is evident in the Anointing, which include the human attributes/application of the anointing (healing, water walking, fire protection, etc). All these expressions are to show every human that even the fundamental elements around them are submissive to them, when they are in the anointing. Else, they are naked/unclothed and they become submissive to the elements around them. (sickness, fear, death, etc.)

Jerami is spot on: the only true way to understand the Anointed is to be anointed. Then that evidence expounds.
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  Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  To add to it, the two elements united are the Teacher.
  The Word & The Testimony = The Spirit
  
  -which reveals all enigma/mystery aka prophecy
  -leads, guides INTO all truth. That's powerful! Not just to show us the door, but to walk through that door and BE the word & testimony!
  
  I dunno how else to say it: this is salvation, renewal of the mind, regeneration of the spirit, free will, grace, eternal life, etc etc etc.
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Jeramiposted 14 years ago
To really have faith is kinda like ??? uhhh

Kinda like wanting to go to a party and have some fun.

Ya caint do it by opening the door, looking inside, ...
taking one step inside leaving your left foot out side the front door. Not goina have much fun like that ..or see anyone else that is either. Ya gotta go to the party with both feet,
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  Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  seriously, right?!
  both feet in or not at all.
  
  i am guilty of this one-foot-in.
  some years back allowed myself to get distracted and lost a lot of that stasis. Recently, have found myself drawing close to that door again. Might say i had my clock cleaned/house cleaned, then let it get infested. Hopefully a good extermination this time will get rid of that pest once and for all...
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  Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well We gotta keep hoping for the best.
  
  I must say though. When we go to the party we might get all the way up inside of it and deside that this party isn't for me. We gotta make sure that we have gone to the right adress.
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Jeramiposted 14 years ago
I've been in and out of this chair taking care of a few little chores around the house. Its time to go tackle a bigger one.

Back after while.
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paarsurreyposted 14 years ago
Who is Christ?

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 is the Christ of our present era.

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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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pjk_artistposted 14 years ago
Christ is your IMAGINATION.
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paarsurreyposted 14 years ago
Who is Christ?

Hi friends

Jesus Christ is an obediend servant of the Creator - God Allah YHWH and is neither god nor son of god:

[4:172] O People of the Book, exceed not the limits in your religion, and say not of Allah anything but the truth. Verily, the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was only a Messenger of Allah and a fulfilment of His word which He sent down to Mary, and a mercy from Him. So believe in Allah and His Messengers, and say not ‘They are three.’ Desist, it will be better for you. Verily, Allah is the only One God. Far is it from His Holiness that He should have a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth. And sufficient is Allah as a Guardian.
[4:173] Surely, the Messiah will never disdain to be a servant of Allah, nor will the angels near unto God; and whoso disdains to worship Him and feels proud, He will gather them all to Himself.
[4:174] Then as for those who believed and did good works, He will give them their rewards in full and will give them more out of His bounty; but as for those who disdained and were proud, He will punish them with a painful punishment. And they shall find for themselves beside Allah no friend nor helper.

http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … ;verse=168

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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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  Believer of Jesusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi, You are a muslim and we are christians, we believe and knows that Jesus is the son of God. He is a servant of God its true but he is the son of God. He said that the one who wants to be first must be last.
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pjk_artistposted 14 years ago
The amount of learned ignorance in this world is astounding.

God became man so that man may become God.

What is his name? I AM.

How do you pray in the name of God?

You say "I AM <that which you you pray for>"

Is that not simply your imagination?

God exists only in you as your imagination.

-Andrew
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Deaconessposted 14 years ago
Not that I believe in the devil (which i don't)... but since Christians, do... I wonder how they can not see that by calling Jesus "the" Christ, God, King of the World, or any of the various other ways that they mean to deify him, that they are doing the devil's work?
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Onusonusposted 14 years ago
The Son of God and advocate with the father. He is the only name under Heaven by which we are saved.
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  God has become so pitiful that he decides ones salvation depends on praising only one certain name ,Jesus?
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  Believer of Jesusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  God's words says that those who believes in Him would have eternal life in Heaven with God. He says that we must believe in one God who is Him and no other Gods. John 3:16 He loved us so much that he gave his only begotten son,Jesus to die on the cross for our sins so that we can have eternal life in Heaven with God
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  Deaconessposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  God did not say this, nor did Jesus. Regarding everlasting life, Jesus said the way to gain it is by adhering to God's Law of Love. If you truly believe that Jesus spoke "truth" than anything the contrary is a lie. (Luke 10:25-28): And a lawyer stood up and inquired of Jesus, “Rabbi, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?” And Jesus asked, “What is written in the Law? How does it read to you?” And the lawyer replied, “You shall love the lord your god with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and will all your mind; and your neighbor as yourself.” And Jesus replied, “You have answered correctly; do this and you will live.”
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What about God before Jesus arrived on this planet?
  Was god dead till then?
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  Judah's Daughterposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You do know some of the Bible, don't you? "I AM" is the One who spoke to Moses in the burning bush; and yet Jesus said in John 8:58 "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am." Jesus is God, Who created all things. He is the Word that spoke everything into being. God became a man; is that so hard to understand? He loves us that much! Read all about it in the books of John. His human flesh died for us; His Spirit lived before the flesh, lived in the flesh, and resurrected that flesh, and is now indwelling all believers in Spirit once again. God is spirit (John 4:24). The LORD, Jesus is the first and the last (Isaiah 44:6; Rev 22:13). Yehowshua is His Hebrew 'human' name, meaning 'YHVH Saves'.
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I have mentioned this before there are two I's small for human big I for god.
  
  Om namo shiva-I bow to ShivA
  Shiv Ho Hum-I am shiva
  
  Dont give more importance to the name over the message.
  
  “Always think of Me, become My devotee, worship Me and offer your homage unto Me. Thus you will come to Me without fail. I promise you this because you are My very dear friend” (Bhagavad-gita 18.65).
  
  “To show them special mercy, I, dwelling in their hearts, destroy with the shining lamp of knowledge the darkness born of ignorance” (Bhagavad-gita 10.11).
  
  “Abandon all varieties of mundane religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear.” (Bhagavad-gita 18:66).
  
  “As they surrender unto Me, I reveal myself” (Bhagavad-gita 4.11). Never mind religion, race or nation: samo ‘ham sarva-bhutesu na me dvesyo ’sti na priyah – “I am not partial to anyone. I am equal to all” (Bhagavad-gita 9.29).
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  Judah's Daughterposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I can't even pull up "Bhagavad" on the internet...what religion is this?
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You haven even heard about the Bhagvad Gita, a spiritual masterpiece.?
  Its about the prophet Krishna.
  
  Its a better spiritual book than the Bible, do read it .
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  Judah's Daughterposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So what is the crux of this 'religion'? That man is only enlightened, graduating to become a part of the universal spirit, and there is no consequence of judgment in the end? I'm guessing, but I am probably not far off the mark....
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That man is only enlightened ??
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  pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  what you can't find gita on internet?..impossible...
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  Onusonusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yup.
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ShadowKing!posted 14 years ago
I [no/b] can
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MikeNVposted 14 years ago
How many times can Christ cut a piece of paper in half?
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Jeramiposted 14 years ago
Having a think out loud moment....

God made a covenant with Abraham. I think that we could call this a verbal contract between God and Abraham?

Being lead by their religious organization; The Hebrews continued to break that contract.
That Hebrew Nation was spiritually bankrupt.

Upon the arrival of the promised Messiah (Jesus) every one was redeemed from their indebtedness, but only if they chose to accept it.

Jesus said that he had come but for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. I think that this was because it was the Hebrews who had broken the contract with God.

This New covenant of redemption was also offered to anyone else that wanted it.

And then ... some time later ...a religious establishment eventually gains leadership. And in order to keep their followers multitudes of denominations are established.

The beliefs in many truths are created.
Have ya ever heard the expression .....
United we stand divided we fall ...
Satan knows it well !
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paarsurreyposted 14 years ago
"Christ is the "I AM"...the pure feeling of being. To stay at this gate, leads to the kingdom of God."

Hi friends

I wonder; how could an incoplete sentece make one a god? It is but a mythical imagination; of Paul , Church and their associates.

Jesus was neither a god nor a son of god; his mother's name was Mary; and Mary had no husband by the name "god". Did she have?

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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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paarsurreyposted 14 years ago
Hi friends

Believing in Jesus is only academic; with the advent of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908, the Second Coming of the Messiah has taken place, so believing in Him is essential in the present era.

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I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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TMMasonposted 14 years ago
The word “son” (ibn) also has more than one sense. It can be used in a literal sense, as a child is born from the union of a father and a mother. But it can also be used in a symbolic or spiritual sense. For example, the Arabs say that a certain person is ibn al-wa
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TMMasonposted 14 years ago
Now Paas, if you do not stop mis-constueing the term and intentionally propagating false facts... then I would advise no one give any credit to your words.

http://www.yale.edu/faith/downloads/rp/ … nglish.pdf

But then again we all know your an islamic propagandist and apologist. On top of the fact that your sect is a heretical sect and under Fatwa of death from all other Islamic sects.
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Jeramiposted 14 years ago
The God that I believe in speaks English.

Can the God that you believe in speak a language other than the one that I speak ?

Could he have told you something that he didn't tell me ?

Might he have told me something that he didn't tell you ?

If he has given me a blue crayon and told me that this is the BEST color , Why would he give you a red crayon and tell you "IT" was the best color.

It this a good reason for me to say that your God must be a false God cause you have a different color ???

Many people think so !!!
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  Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ooooh Jerami, you'll never get anywhere making up stuff like that, buddy.
  
  The same reason followers of many religions have all each got their own colored crayons and why none of us have just one colored crayon. Can you guess the answer?
  
  Or, gods just don't exist and the crayons are all man made.
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toast1000posted 14 years ago
Jesus Christ is The Son of God (not) God himself. Why will people simply not believe John 3:16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. It does NOT state hear that he loved us so greatly that he came and dwelt with us, or he came to us, or God descended down to be with his people, no it does not is says He sent his only SON. This is why God had such a great covenant with Abraham, as he was willing to sacrifice his ONLY son Isaac for God. It would be the ultimate sacrifice and it touched God so he was pleased.
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  paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hi friend toast1000
  
  Jesus did not believe John. Why should I believe in John?
  
  Jesus never commanded to believe in John? Did he?
  
  Jesus was son of Mary; and Mary was a human being; hence Jesus was also a human being. Mary did not have a husband named god; hence Jesus was neither god nor son of god.
  
  Do you deny that Jesus was not son of Mary?
  
  Thanks
  
  I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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  Onusonusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  John was a comissioned apostle of Jesus Christ, not some warmonger named Mohammed who lived sixhundred hundred years later.
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  TMMasonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I even posted it in Arabic... and stll you choose to mis-construe the term.
  
  You are a decietful person Paas...
  
  http://www.yale.edu/faith/downloads/rp/ … nglish.pdf
  
  And Christ never dis-owned or rejected John. Read a Bible Paas, instead of getting your information from a flawed source like the qu'ran.
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