Are Visiting Aliens Good Or Bad?

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Seeker7posted 13 years ago
If we are being visited by ET are they benevolent or malevolent? There are quite a lot of conflicting stories out there allegedly from people who have been in contact with aliens in some form or another. So are they good or bad or are they just indifferent?
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  Quilligrapherposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Are they interested in buying a bridge from Brooklyn to Manhattan?
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  The next Abductee I come across I'll ask them!!
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  check out my extraterrestrial investigation hubs. In my opinion Colonel Corso (The Day After Roswell) is credible and says they are a threat.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hi sparkster,
  
  Sorry I missed your post on my last visit round. I think that's the interesting point, whether you believe in ET or not, is the accounts from people. Some will state definately that it's a positive experience - contactees. Others will say the opposite - abductees - and, according to Prof John Mack, do display signs of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Some people put this down to abductions being performed by MILABS in order to portray the extraterrestrials as a threat whilst contactees claim they've had positive experiences. I believe psychotronic interference plays a major part in many abductions. Then again maybe there are both benevolent and malevolent ET's. One thing I do know is that I have performed psychological analysis of many claimants, abductees and contactees and so has psychiatrist John E. Mack (amongst others). They are definitely of sound mind and genuinely believe what they are saying. One person below claimed that they are 'nutters' when the opposite has been proven by professionals.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Could you explain more what 'psychotronic interference' means. I've heard the term but I'm not sure exactly what that means? Many thanks.
  
  I have spoken to a couple of people - a few years ago - who related a couple of incidents that happened to them. I was very impressed with their sincerity and obvious intelligence - one of them was a police oficer.
  
  "One person below claimed that they are 'nutters' when the opposite has been proven by professionals."
  
  Well that's the same old worn out record that some skeptics use when they don't have the intelligence or knowledge to argue their own view point in a coherent manner. It's aso a sad example of the cutting intolerance shown to people who happen to have a different outlook on some issues.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Here's a great write-up on psychotronic warfare:
  http://www.drlwilson.com/ARTICLES/PSYCHOTRONIC.htm
  
  It actually reminds me of the FBI memo that states:
  
  'A dangerous situation could occur at any time regarding the flying saucers. If one of those should be attacked, the plane will almost certainly be destroyed. In the public mind this might create near panic and international suspicion.
  
  1. Parts of the discs carry crews, others are under remote control.
  
  2. Their mission is peaceful. The visitors contemplate settling on this plane.
  
  3. These visitors are human-like but much larger in size.'
  
  The memo goes on to state that the entities don't come from another planet as we know it, but from an etheric planet that interpenetrates with our own.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hi sparkster,
  
  Many thanks for the link I will look into this!
  
  That is interesting what you say about the FBI memo. Many sightings have puzzled numeorus people due to the seemingly semi-physical nature of the craft. In addition the accounts of spirit-like properties that some ET may have - for example walking through walls in a ghost-like manner - is intriguing.
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  aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know if they are GOOD, BAD or INDIFFERENT.
  
  Me, I'm just INDIFFERENT about the existence in the first place.
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sadly, the fruitful conversation that I was having with one of the posters here seems to have been terminated.
  
  C'est la vie.
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  Neptune0461posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It's ironic, if you can't explain it it must be aliens! I know I am posting 3 months later however anyone new to this. Here is my proposal to think out of the box. Before I say this, yes I have seen 2 UFO's in my life though it has been a long time. Personally I do believe the UFO's exist however they are not aliens in my proposal. They are fallen angels that have been here for thousands if not millions of years. The bible is specific thay they married earth women. The ships you see are mechanical versions of their energy ships. No they are not good, they are evil. The hybrid race they spawned were in fact what you would call demigods. Half man half fallen angel. The legends and heros of myths were no myth. They were the span of fallen angels and the earth women. They are evil horrible creatures because of their treason against the Almighty. Far more reasonable to believe than Aliens traveling light years to just come say hi. Steven Hawkins the renowned scientist also believes that if aliens actually came here, it would be to either enslave us or harvest no only us but all earths resources. No Superman could not stop them. Fallen angels are not aliens and they know their days are numbered. They will attempt to destroy man or at the very least continue to deceive man until they meet their demise. My advice is to have an open mind. UFO's do not mean there is no God, UFO's mean that there is proof Yaweh and his son Yashua are very real. The fact is, it can be explained what UFO's are and no it is not alien. They are the gods of this world for the time being until justice is served. Something to think about!
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Stacie Lposted 13 years ago
well without visiting aliens ,we'd have no religion in the world...
http://historychannel.com/ancientaliens
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I've been watching Ancient Aliens as well - interesting stuff but is it true????
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Emile Rposted 13 years ago
Well, since we have no proof of the presence of aliens; I would assume if they were real that would mean they are either good or indifferent.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Emile, we certainly don't have proof that's for sure but it doesn't mean it's not possible. There are a few compelling accounts out there - on our planet I mean - that make you stop and think.
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  Emile Rposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I agree. I've seen film footage that has never been adequately explained.
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wildernessposted 13 years ago
A bigger question may be if they are hungry or not?
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  Disturbiaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm hoping they're all vegan vegetarians and salad freaks!!!
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Cagsilposted 13 years ago
Visiting means interaction? And, so far, none that I know of have actually interacted with humankind.

However, if visiting means, just floating around in the sky, checking out humankind, to see what value Earth is to them? Then, I don't see why not. There's a chance that there are plenty of resources they could use, which we've yet to discover useful.
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  Hollie Thomasposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Visiting means interaction? And, so far, none that I know of have actually interacted with humankind.
  
  That's not true. What about ET?
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's not even funny. Nice sarcasm, but meaningless much the same.
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  Hollie Thomasposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, wasn't meant to be sarcastic, just lighthearted
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Figured as much, but with all of the alien talk and it appears to be getting much more play nowadays, it should be known that the possibility that the human race isn't actually exclusive to this Universe.
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  Hollie Thomasposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, but you may have a hard time convincing the human race of that
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, I know, because they seem to think they are special and exclusively put here to do something that's pure fantasy.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  For me there is certainly UFO's - no question about that. Are they alien or government? We might never know. Aliens? Why not? Just because we can't go further than our own space back yard doesn't mean other things/beings/humanoids or whatever haven't managed to find someway to jump from side of a universe to the other.
  
  I think Hollie has a point though about "having a hard time to convince the human race". This subject is so out of most people's boxed lives, including my own - that the thought of aliens/ET whatever is hard to grasp and swallow. And yet I do honestly believe there are some intriguing cases that may well point to this fact.
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  A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  How would you expect those things/beings/humanoids to accomplish that feat of magic? Seems if it's not human and is a god or alien, magic is entirely possible.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm no scientist so I can't give you the nuts and bolts of how travel could be done. But modern computers, travel etc. would certainly seem like magic to our ancestors. But what kind of magic are you thinking about - entertainment magicians, occultism, earth magic? I don't think they are gods in the Biblical sense. And if we accept that documentaries such as 'Ancient Aliens' have some truth then the 'gods' were just forms of life with very advanced technology - magic and god-like to our ancestors, gub-smacking technos to us. So the point is, that magic to one is just progress to another. In the near or distant future this 'magic' could well be common place.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I'm no scientist so I can't give you the nuts and bolts of how travel could be done. But modern computers, travel etc. would certainly seem like magic to our ancestors. But what kind of magic are you thinking about - entertainment magicians, occultism, earth magic? I don't think they are gods in the Biblical sense. And if we accept that documentaries such as 'Ancient Aliens' have some truth then the 'gods' were just forms of life with very advanced technology - magic and god-like to our ancestors, gub-smacking technos to us. So the point is, that magic to one is just progress to another. In the near or distant future this 'magic' could well be common place.
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  A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  But, none of those things have anything to do with traveling light years across the vast distances of space.
  
  I'm talking about the magic that would have those things/beings/humanoids or whatever breaking the laws of the universe to travel those distances.
  
  They don't have any truth, they are garbage tv programs that promote ratings. TV producers understand there are millions of gullible people who would watch and believe that garbage.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Wow - you're remarkably well informed!! What 'magic' do you use that allows you to know so much about everything! In particular that there are no other laws in the universe to discover?? We are not at the end of our knowledge or experience and to think so is arrogance.
  
  And my response has everything to do with what form of travel other life forms may have. You were the one who used the term to 'magic' not I.
  
  Your viewpoint on 'gullible' people is your right to have of course, but if you think it's all garbage, I'm always interested to know why people like you bother to put your neb in, into discussions such as this? Personally I don't waste my precious time discussing or arguing about topics that I don't buy into.
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  A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  What's wrong with a little education?
  
  Education.
  
  No, to make claims like that is folly, misleading and shows a general lack of an education.
  
  And yet, here you are.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  its not magic, several government officials and scientists have explain about manipulating gravity and warping space and time to make interstellar distances shorter. Teleportation also occurs naturally within molecules. Check out my investigation.
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  A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hi sparkster, when I was writing the response above I couldn't remember what it was that scientists were discussing in relation to space travel. Many thanks for prompting my memory. The documentary I was watching was basically looking at how realistic space travel in Star Trek was? And in addition to 'warp drive', many mentioned bending space & time and also the use of gravity.
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Stacie Lposted 13 years ago
you wouldn't know if they are interacting with humans if they took on a human look, became invisible or stayed out of sight.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I've give you one of those things Stacie....I'm sure that aliens to us, believe it or not, are not necessarily different looking than us.
  
  I'm of the understanding that the human race is just part of the process and with that being the case, then in other Universes, then humans would also exist.
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  Stacie Lposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think they are monsters as we have been lead to believe,but look like us.Some theorize that the human race was transported from a dying planet.
  I try to keep an open mind.
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  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Monsters? Well, it does have it's possibilities. But, I'm more inclined to think that rationally the human species does exist elsewhere other than our own Universe.
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Hollie Thomasposted 13 years ago
It's interesting though that many people perceive, at least those who believe that it is possible for other life forms to exist, that they are probably far more evolved intellectually than us. I'm not saying that that isn't the case, just think it's interesting.
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  Emile Rposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think we have that perception since, if they have developed interstellar travel; they would, of course, be more advanced.
  
  Notice when Hollywood has humans doing the traveling it's reversed.
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  Hollie Thomasposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Good point, but as we've not been visited by other beings, at least as far as I'm aware, it's quite possible that if other life exists within this universe at least, their evolution may have progressed no further than ours. Although, they may have had to evolve to adapt to an environment quite different than ours.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I think about aliens being more intelligent that us - maybe that's not the case. They may have had hundreds or thousands of years head start as regards to technology - but mentally would they really be so superior? I'm just thinking about our own planet. We have advanced in extraordinary ways over the last 100 years or so, but can we honestly say we are more intelligent than people from our past? We're not, so maybe we shouldn't think that ET would be that highly intelligent either?
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Stacie Lposted 13 years ago
I've thought for a long time that we are just like the aliens that visit us..and they are checking on us...
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Stacie, I think many of the alleged encounters seem to support this. The confusion comes in when we hear of other accounts that involve non-human enitites - greys, reptiles and god knows what else. I even heard of one of a seven foot robot with fur!!!???? So either the poor man was pissed/high on something/or needs to be on something, or alternatively our planet is even weirder than even I could imagine. There's even more confusion when these encounters are sometimes in conjunction with UFO's but others seem to have orginated very much on Earth. Life is definately stranger than fiction.
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Wentworth35posted 13 years ago
Well the aliens I have spoken to have assured me that they are coming here because the music of Cliff Richard has reached them, and they have come to put a stop to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23ZG6HJVKuQ
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I can relate to them on that one.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMAO!!!!!! Well if you were an alien wouldn't you want to stop that 'noise' as well? But in actual fact I think they have more concerns over the noise pollution caused by Daniel O'Donnell!!!! And if 'they' don't I do!!
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  LMAO!!!again - it always interests me that when contributors can't argue coherently nor win an argument, they stop any further replies from being put forward - LOL!! Some people do need to grow up, but it's a true sign of hitting a raw nerve folks!!!
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  UFO sightings have occurred since as early as at least 1561 and have been covered up since at least 1897. They are in religious pictures that are thousands of years old too. The story is that 'the greys' have monitoring Earth for tens of thousands of years and have performed 65 genetic upgrades to the human race. If Colonel Corso is anything to go by (which it seems he is) then extraterrestrial biological entities are responsible for cattle abductions and human mutilations.
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  A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Check out my extraterrestrial investigation hubs.
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  A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, thank you for insulting my intelligence.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I should say the same. There are hundreds of people involved in this subject who have PhD's, MD's, etc, top government scientists and researchers, presidents, seargants and colonels and so much more that all support these theories. Are you saying that you are more intelligent than all of them??
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  A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  There are plenty of people with "credentials" who promote insane theories. So what? They are still insane and their theories are pure garbage.
  
  Those who are part of the Disclosure Project are well known nutters to the rest of the scientific community.
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  Seeker7posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Well TM - it takes a nutter to know a nutter!!!!!
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I believe the question was 'are visitng aliens good or bad?' and not 'are they real or not?'. There are thousands who are not taking part in disclosure project, I'd certainly be more inclined to believe them than some random person over the internet.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Many people involved are psychologists, psychiatrists, etc who have proven that people making these claims are of sound mind and genuinely believe what they are saying. It has been proven that they are not 'nutters' and this can be proven via other means also.
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  A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's like asking if you could steal the pot of gold from a leprechaun.
  
  Yes, I can see the following of the herd mentality there. The fact that you are still inclined to believe them than someone else does not make their silly theories any less sillier.
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klarawieckposted 13 years ago
It all depends on the alien.
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
I saw some of the series.
Amazing how much the aliens resemble the people of the time.

The helmet on the "spaceman" appears to be squared and riveted.

I guess that was as far as they understood science....... just not credible to me.
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Hugh Williamsonposted 13 years ago
"...extraterrestrial biological entities are responsible for cattle abductions and human mutilations."

Shouldn't that be the other way around??
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Either way is good for a laugh!
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  http://sparkster.hubpages.com/hub/Do-Al … ion-Part-1
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you. I read your hub. I don't believe I saw anything new to me.
  
  I believe that many have seen UFOs, but that is what they were. UNIDENTIFIED flying objects.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks for checking it out. There are 11 parts in total and many many hours worth of investigations and footage plus other sorts of proof, you couldn't have possibly watched them all (would probably take a few days lol). There really is some very genuine and highly credible evidence there which can be verified and just cannot be ignored.
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  From what I did see, I have seen it all before, and yes there are credible sightings, but as I said they are unidentified in the main and I am still sceptical.
  I have always taken an interest in these sorts of things as there are some fascinating psych studies amongst the true believers.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  All good my friend. Personally I think it's amazing how everyone who has come forward since Corso's death have only verified what he claimed in his book The Day After Roswell. With all the people who were directly involved who have come forward and admitted it, 1,000s of government and military officials, government scientists and researchers, invisible aeroplanes being built by Lockheed Skunkworks, antigravity, etc I personally don't think we need any more proof. All these people and several US presidents have only confirmed what Corso claimed. When even Neil Armstrong claimed they were being watched by someone bigger and better than us all the time they on the moon, Edgar Mitchell met with the Pentagon who confirmed it was real, I'm very inclined to believe what they say. Half a mile long cigar shaped motherships which release several flying saucers at a time which have been around for thousands of years, it just seems too much to deny. Those 62 school children in Ruwa, Zimbabwe is the case that blows my mind. Those kids were caught up with after 14 years and confirm what they saw, they're making a new documentary. It's just impossible to debunk the whole subject, believe me I've tried! lol.
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earnestshubposted 13 years ago
There are a couple of references you make that I have missed.

We are getting all this sort of information assembled in to documentaries these days, and I like the trend.

Hopefully someday soon it will be easier to draw these things together as you have with your hub.
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Life would certainly be more interesting if I believed that we has been visited by extraterrestrials -- benevolent or malevolent -- but I've seen nothing that convinces me, yet.
  
  Sadly. :-(
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I felt the same until I started looking deeper into the subject. There is so much information out there which just doesn't get mentioned in mainstream media. I was skeptical and believed the whole subject was just a cover for secret government craft, etc but the more I look into the more it just can't be explained in conventional ways.
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I've looked deeply into the subject. However, my standards of evidence are pretty rigorous. Actually, I take that back: my standards of evidence for remarkable claims are exactly the same as my standards of evidence for any other claim. If you are claiming something as a matter of fact and not as a matter of opinion, then only physical evidence suffices.
  
  Here is a hub about a different subject that explains my own standards of evidence:
  
  http://chasuk.hubpages.com/hub/Miracles-Dont-Happen
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Miracle Of The Sun 1917 Portugal - lol
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know whether the "lol" means that you suggested the "Miracle Of The Sun" in jest, or whether my skepticism strikes you as humorous.
  
  O.o
  
  In either case, I'm not convinced by 'Miracle Of The Sun."
  
  Eyewitness testimony is among the least credible of all forms of putative evidence.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe not but I do think the explanation of sun dogs to explain the incident is even more outrageous than the claim that something very odd happened. Between 30,000 - 100,000 people witnessed it, eyewitness testimony may mean nothing in certain contexts but when that many people claim the same thing then the Wisdom Of Crowds theory kicks in.
  
  I suppose it's a bit like polygraph tests, they mean nothing when tested on one or two people but when thousands from all over the world who have not been in communication with each other all claim the same thing and all pass polygraph testing then there's obviously some truth to it.
  
  There is solid evidence out of something going on but it's not mainstream and is kept suppressed, you just need to look in the right areas. However, I will admit here that my 'Extraterrestrial Investigation' hubs (part 11 so far) might have a bit of a twist at the end.
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Except that some people who were there -- who were believers -- saw nothing at all.
  
  Again, I want to believe in extraterrestrials. They might exist; I hope they do.
  
  Show me incontrovertible evidence, and I'll believe.
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  Alastar Packerposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If one flew silently and slowly over your head, would that be incontrovertible enough evidence for you Chasuk? In other words, is YOU seeing believing?
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That depends on what I saw.
  
  I was in the USAF for 10 years, working on A-10s and F-111F aircraft. That was 20 years ago. I wasn't then, and I am not now, an expert on aircraft. However, I have enough familiarity with what constitutes both civilian and military craft that I doubt I could confuse a weather balloon, etc., at close range.
  
  So suppose than a strange craft flew within 20 feet of me, silently and slowly , in daylight, not obscured in any way, so that I could count the individual windows and ailerons. Would I automatically assume that it was an extraterrestrial craft? Of course not.
  
  If I boarded the craft, and, minutes or seconds later, it had ascended to the earth's exosphere -- I was staring down at the big blue marble -- and the fellow occupants were indisputably non-human, probably. If I was taken to another planet populated by alien species, definitely.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Boyd Bushman showed official government documents that indicate that US government had their first flying saucer in 1969 which didn't fly successfully until 1971. The germans had the Andromeda-Gerat which holds foo fighters and flying saucers and even an extraterrestrial briefing room. Ben Rich also claimed to have designed an aircraft with the capability of invisibility. Know anything about these devices? Seems very odd.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Precisely. There IS evidence out there in the right places that they don't want you seeing and there are several clues in the declassified documents that have been released by CIA, NSA, FBI and MoD (as a result of disclosure project by the way). 9,000 documents were released just a month ago.
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  Aficionadaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  earnest, you are just way too cool, man!
  
  Clearly a sceptic, as you have said - and totally appropriately, too, given the subject matter - but intelligent and gracious enough to observe accumulating evidence without simply dismissing it out of hand. I wish everyone could be equally open-minded.
  
  Kudos!
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you very much! That was a very positive comment. Love you too!
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  Aficionadaposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Grinning here - and hoping all of us on HP will escape the dead satellite fall tonight!
  
  I just took a lot of time to read some of Sparkster's Hubs on ET's and watch the attached videos. One really very interesting one that might interest you is in Part 2, about the Westall incident in 1966 in Australia. It's pretty long (48 minutes), but very worthwhile in its insight into the way questionable incidents are covered up.
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks. I have seen that one, but I may go back and look at some of the others. I do like the approach Sparkster has taken to the subject.
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  Wentworth35posted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I hope the satelite will fall on my house, as then I will have an excuse to explain why it is such a mess.
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  earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I need to find out what time that will be in Australia so I can get my tinfoil hat on in time.
  Apparently one piece of it is going to be pretty big!
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Aficionadaposted 13 years ago
There is a weird glitch in this forum. I may report it in another thread. But it is almost weird enough to blame on aliens!!!
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Jon Peterzposted 13 years ago
I heard they want our ice cream and french fries.
They already have Elvis.
So, I guess they're bad.?
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And abducting cattle so that they can have burgers with their fries.
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Alastar Packerposted 13 years ago
Lets hope your never in a court of law then Chasuk. There were pics taken of the disc of many colors at Fatima BTW. Obviously, it was a craft of some type. Rushing down on the crowd, flashing a rainbow of colors, rotating edges, drying out of the rain-soaked clothes etc Yes, a manipulation, but for what purpose? Its even rumored the Vatican knows what it really was. Notice the recent announcement by them on intelligent life out-side the earth.
Sun-dog? Laughable if it wasn't so sad one could still believe that ancient, exploded hypothesis after really researching the phenomena.
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, I've seen the pics and watched the videos, and there was nothing obviously a craft to me. Hearsay evidence doesn't interest me. There are rumors that the Vatican knows what it really was? Rumored by whom?
  
  Notice that I have NOT offered my own explanation. An explanation obviously exists, and I don't know what it is, but "unknown" does not automatically equate to me to extraterrestrials or miracles.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  You clearly haven't looked into the subject enough, or you're looking in the wrong places.
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That isn't clear at all. Everyone has different life experiences, which leads to different conclusions. I'm as puzzled by your belief as you are by my lack of it.
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Would you believe official government documents if they confirmed it as a reality?
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  If the provenance of the documents were not in dispute, I would be inclined to accept whatever it was that the documents confirmed, but I would be disinclined to accept any extrapolations.
  
  i'm assuming you have documents in mind?
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Indeed I do.
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  And the URL is?
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  I would be very much interested in these government documents.
  
  Would you kindly provide me with a few references?
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Alastar Packerposted 13 years ago
OK-this all I've got time for on this thread today. Why would the object have to have anything your familiar from your USAF experience? Remember my friend, UFO means unidentified, not necessarily extra-terrestrial, inter-dimensional or anything else in that vein. Why do you assume that any occupants that could whoosh you into the exosphere could not be humans or human -looking? And yes, taken to another planet would definitely be a give-away one wasn't in Kansas anymore and there are others over the rainbow. All this meant in friendly and good faith to you Chasuk.
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  An admission, and an analogy: I see unidentified vehicles all of the time. I am one of those people entirely disinterested in cars other than as boxes with wheels that allow me to reach places that are further away than I would readily walk. I've owned cars for years without being aware -- or caring -- what the make or model were. That means that I've see a LOT of unidentified vehicles.
  
  However, this forum wouldn't attract much attention if it was just people describing unidentified makes and models of cars that they have seen, or even unidentified aircraft. It is only interesting because the world "UFO" conjures all sorts of fascinating speculation.
  
  I have seen nothing that convinces me that most of the speculation is warranted.
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  wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  That's easy enough - simply assume that each unidentified car has an alien hiding in the trunk. Instant interest!
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  sparksterposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Just a quick point I'd like to make. There are invisible signals and forces all over the world - some that we know exist and others that we don't know about.
  
  We can't see wind, RF signals, electromagnetism, infra-red rays, etc but we know they are very real. It was officially announced just a few days ago (in UK) that scientists have discovered molecules travelling faster than the speed of light and that some particles actually teleport - it's a naturally occurring phenomena that defies science as we know it.
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  Chasukposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  Most importantly, the scientists at CERN believe that they have accelerated lowly neutrinos faster than the speed of light. If true, this is much more exciting than hypothetical tachyons. I hope that it is confirmed.
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  A Troubled Manposted 13 years agoin reply to this
  So, how do you know there are signals and forces existing that we don't know about if we don't know about them?
  
  So, what you're saying is that the signals and forces in the world that we can detect exist and are very real, and that those we can't detect probably don't exist and are not real.
  
  No, some neutrino test results from a particle accelerator look like they might not be correct and they are asking other scientists to confirm the results from their particle accelerators.
  
  Teleporting particles = Entanglement.
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paarsurreyposted 13 years ago
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I don't think any aliens visited earth so far.
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Hey people, don't generalize! You wouldn't want aliens to be asking "Are Visiting Humans Good or Bad?" in their forums. Would you?
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