This says it all. LOL!

Jump to Last Post 1-13 of 13 discussions (101 posts)

72
Cagsilposted 11 years ago
reply report
1. 52
  jah1zposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  ......his own curiosity did him in.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  And out right refusal to believe what other people say, would be a justified approach to not knowing. Because, for the most part, you can never tell when people are lying.
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You can also never tell if they know their lying or spreading, poisoning minds.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  If a person doesn't know they are lying, then apparently they have a very, very, very low level of awareness.
  reply report
  71
  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Or have been lying so long even they are deceived and no longer aware of their lies.
  
  I have met liars who truly believe what they say.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Oh John, I have met a lot of them. There are simply too many stories to be told about how people have no ability to see that they are lying.
  reply report
  60
  recommend1posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You have just described the condition of fundamental religion.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  +1
  reply report
  71
  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Or someone's personal self belief that they alone control their world, it's a double edged sword!
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  And what part of your life are you not in control of John?
  
  You alone control what you do. So, how are you not in control?
  
  No one tries to control the world. There are plenty of people who are trying to dominate the world. But, controlling it? Nope. None.
  reply report
  59
  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Ah yes, the old "Devil made me do it" excuse!
  
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Randy, what's up?
  reply report
  59
  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Ray! Missed your greeting earlier. Life is good. And you?
  
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'm doing well.
  report
  71
  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Ray, in my business life I am controlled by (ultimately) the Rothschild's banking cartel, who demand KYC at every turn I make, and will only allow me to function if I play by their rules, in the political frame I am controlled by laws made to suit the 1% and designed to keep the 99% in servitude, and in my personal life (and in all things I do) I am controlled by God, to whom I have submitted authority over my life, because following His plan for my life is better than fighting against it. I get to choose which coffe I can order at Starbucks and what we have for supper tonight, and even then my wife controls what I eat to a degree, as she wants me healthy!
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I understand this clearly and where you are coming from.
  Interesting. Speaks volumes. Thank you.
  reply report
  59
  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  So in other words, you have a god for some things and a goddess for others. But I'll bet they let you go to the bathroom when YOU want to, right? Believers call this "free will."
  
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Oh Randy.
  reply report
  71
  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, very funny Randy!
  
  I can do whatever I like, I choose to do what suits me best, and satisfying God and my wife are good ways to have a contented life, so it is in some respects a dedicated self interest that means I choose liberty over freedom.
  
  I made the choice, it was my free will, and Christ gave us the 'heads up' when He said "Nevertheless, not my will but yours Lord"
  reply report
  59
  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'll bet Mary Magdalene nagged the hell out of him anyway!
  
  report
  0
  jomineposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  For that matter, all religion.
  reply report
  61
  JSChamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Bill Clinton!
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Clinton was better than any Bush.
  reply report
  61
  JSChamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  The man lied 4 times before breakfast.
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  So? He fixed our deficit and we actually had a surplus. He repaired our foreign affairs. So what if he lied? He did his best for this country and that's all that should matter.
  reply report
  59
  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  But Dubya lied as a matter of course. I doubt he knew it, though!
  
  reply report
  74
  getitriteposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Pat Robertson
  Oral Roberts
  Jimmy Swaggert
  TD Jakes
  Creflo Dollar
  Joel Osteen
  Billy Graham
  Rick Warren
  The Pope
  Joyce Meyer
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Don't forget Jim Baker.
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I would suppose. Theists were convinced by someone that something exists, beyond the sensory experience. It is not their fault their gullible, the blame should fall on whoever started and propagated it.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Umm...let's not get ahead of ourselves. Theists were not convinced by someone else. It's that they never had gotten over the initial "shock and awe" of consciousness and reality.
  No one had to start it. It's a theory just like everything else. But that it, a theory. It cannot even considered a hypothesis because there's nothing to actually back it up.
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It wasn't a theory. If someone is spreading a lie, chances are, they picked it up from another person.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hey nonto, and what's a theory? A theory is a thought/idea in combination of other thoughts an ideas, leading to a conclusion.
  
  If a person is unable to break the "shock and awe" of consciousness, then they are likely to believe anything from almost anyone. When you look at our bodies, the chemical make up, DNA, the Universe, the planet and then try to fathom how it could have come about? Aside from humankind already knows, then you would likely believe in a God or a Creator.
  
  Einstein said he believe in a Higher Power and could prove a Higher power exists through physics, simply because of the complexity of physics. However, he denied that his Higher Power was described by any of the world's religions.
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's because, no matter the belief, it's a seemingly personal one. I've had christians say "from my experience". That's when I'd say "exactly, it was your experience and only your experience". I do realize that there are theories but, there are also physical observations. A physical observation requires no theory, only a good set of sensory organs.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Really? Any observation requires a subconscious and conscious interaction to develop your perception of said observation.
  
  You are required to use your sensory organ in combination with what you know and experience. Beliefs are a waste a time, unless you want to believe your favorite sports team will take home a title.
  
  Life is ever changing and any belief that is solidified is dangerous if left in place for too long. It has a detrimental affect on the individual's life and effect the people around them.
  
  With this understanding, I hold few beliefs.
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's what makes me an atheist; a lack of belief. I go by what I can readily observe and what seems like relevant information. The belief that it is right for me is apparent, though I have a lack of belief in what I cannot observe.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Okay.
  And then you make this statement? Please re-read your sentence.
  
  You formed a belief, about having a lack of belief in a God.
  
  And, people think I'm screwed up?
  report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Everyone (as you stated before) "unless you want to believe your favorite sports team will take home a title". But that's not really a belief, it's an aspiration, in the form of optimism.
  report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It's not a belief? Hmmm.
  
  If that is truly the case, then I have no beliefs. None whatsoever.
  report
  68
  aka-djposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  John 8;31 The truth will (always) set one free!
  
  The only answer to lies and deception is "TRUTH"!
  
  If you never hear it, you will never know it!
  reply report
  77
  Castlepalomaposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  At one time there was 5 times more Native American than Europeans. The Columbus came over and began Christianity, Columbus brought natives slavery, gold rush and piracy and great wars. There after the greatest human genocide that has ever happened in Human history. I and America natives often still think Christian often speck with two faces and fork tongue.
  
  They did not know what hell was about, until we showed them
  reply report
  74
  lone77starposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hell has nothing to do with the flesh.
  
  We were created in God's image and He is not Homo sapiens.
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  How do you know?
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you DJ. But, yes I have heard truth and it sounds nothing like anything more believers spout off.
  reply report
  74
  lone77starposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Cags, you said "If a person doesn't know they are lying, then apparently they have a very, very, very low level of awareness."
  
  Here's looking at you, kid!
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It might be nice if you put your ego aside, which is usually your problem. The fact that you making the inference that I'm the one with low awareness is actually just your reflection. Good show.
  
  You've still not learned anything at all, have you? Amazing, just simply amazing.
  reply report
2. 77
  Castlepalomaposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  http://s4.hubimg.com/u/6796039_f248.jpg
  
  That is funny
  reply report
3. 79
  schoolgirlforrealposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  not true. According to Catholic teaching you'd still go there, for not (seeking the truth)
  
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Interesting. Good to know.
  reply report
  79
  schoolgirlforrealposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  reply report
  71
  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Default clause, we are destined for one destination, but we can choose to change destination, provided we are able to meet the entry requirements, which are not difficult to fulfil.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hey John, you seem to be a bit confused. If the destination is destined, then no choice you make will change it. You would still arrive at your destination whether or not of the choices you make throughout your life. So, choice doesn't play a factor in your statement.
  reply report
  71
  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Ray,
  
  Confused no, possibly too tired when I wrote, I had been up for the best part of 48 hours with a couple of three hour sleeps!
  
  Perhaps I should have said we are all destined UNLESS we change the destination?
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  To be destined for something John is something you cannot change, yet you keep on saying it. Destiny happens whether or not you want it to happen. It's kind like the BS of Fate.
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  And free will is negated by the concept....
  reply report
  71
  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  But we can change our destiny, if I fall or jump out of a plane and do not pull the ripcord on the parachute I am wearing, I am destined to die when I hit the ground, but if I pull the ripcord....
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's free will. What does destiny mean, when free will is the term you refer to?
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Cont.
  
  Destiny would entail, that you weren't in control and that it was already decided. Free will would mean nothing, not under those parameters.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Destined is the final outcome of your overall life John. It's nothing to do with a situation or circumstance. It's "what, where, who, how and why" you arrived at that destined moment.
  
  Destiny isn't affected/effected by choice because all choices one would make are already included.
  
  You don't seem to get it. Irony at it's best.
  reply report
  71
  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe we are destined to misunderstand each other!
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I understand what you're saying John. I really do, but "destiny" does have it's definition. And choices are included already and change nothing about the end result.
  
  In order for destiny to be something that is real, then choice would not be an option. Because, technically, you will be compelled from inside to take a specific path. You won't fight the feeling/compulsion.
  reply report
  71
  aguasilverposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  We are born, we sin, by sinning we become destined to death and separation from God.
  
  You will see that destined has two options:
  
  des·tined/ˈdestind/
  Adjective:
  1. (of a person's future) Developing as though according to a plan.
  2. Certain to meet (a particular fate).
  
  Number one "Developing as though according to a plan." is what I refer to, by sinning we are 'developing as though according to a plan' that our enemy has contrived for us.
  
  When we exercise our free will and place ourselves under the authority of Christ, we change that destined plan of the enemy for the destiny that God affords us when we place ourselves under the authority of Christ.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  A plan? You're claiming a plan by a G/god. Which is destiny.
  
  You don't actually have free will or choice, even though you've been told you do. God's plan is going to work out regardless of what you do, think or anything else.
  
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I thought that by living, I was subject to death.
  
  There's nothing a religion can change about dying. It just aleviates a bit of the sting of knowing it.
  reply report
  68
  aka-djposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I think he made the point rather well.
  No confusion in what he said.
  
  If you are falling, and destined to hi the ground, but fail to open your parachute (free will choice) you will indeed meet your destiny!
  Either way you land, but one is DEAD, the other is ALIVE.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  reply report
4. 0
  Sooner28posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  LOL. This is an amazing piece of logic.
  reply report
81
Greekgeekposted 11 years ago
That blasted snake keeps handing out apples, doesn't he?
reply report
1. 72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Someone or something is handing out things alright, but I'm not sure it's apples....but could be nothing more than BS.
  reply report
74
lone77starposted 11 years ago
Yes, Cags. That says it all. Some priests lie. Tsk, tsk, tsk!

And Christianity is a rescue mission.

If you're on a sinking ship, you can decide: Do I go for the rescue or go down with the ship?

Some people are so convinced that the ship is safe and they find its familiarity and comforts so appealing that they cannot let go of it. But when the ship goes down, it's their decision to stay.

Does it matter if someone goes down with the ship and didn't know it was sinking? Would they be just as dead either way? See? Your priest was lying. The Eskimo would've died whether he was told or not.

Going down with the ship... that's Hell.

God created "man" in His own image and likeness. And God is not Homo sapiens.
reply report
1. 77
  Castlepalomaposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That means Cagsil , me and and most people on earth will be sailing on a ship of fools to our death forever or an option where most will be torture for eternity, God knows.
  
  Where Christian will be overly comfortable and over obedience in heaven above , well above the mountain tops 30,000 foot , smiling down on our hell from being extremely happy,
  
  Send my love to Yahweh, and his insane plan because he will need most of love down here.
  reply report
2. 72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, Priests lie. It's the only way to perpetuate the hoax of a G/god. How else do you think it would be accomplished? It certainly isn't made of truth.
  Yeah I know. It rescues wealth and power from the simpletons who would give it to them.
  If you're on a sinking ship, the ship is going down regardless of what you do. If you sacrifice your life to save that of someone else so they don't go down with the ship but you do. Then and only then, do you truly understand love. Until then, you must learn to love yourself until you do.
  That depends.
  Only someone already dead would never know the ship was sinking. Otherwise, not possible. Consciousness would ensure a person would know.
  Yes, dead either way.
  You know you're not helping yourself here, right? Anything but life is hell. So get real.
  Yeah, I've heard the tale. It's not believable by and rhyme or reason.
  reply report
60
knolyourselfposted 11 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpSuEQhQsyc
reply report
1. 77
  Castlepalomaposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Miss the oldies
  reply report
2. 56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Is the song (for you) supposed to be from God's point of view or our's?
  reply report
60
knolyourselfposted 11 years ago
Was to illustrate random. Make of it what you will.
reply report
1. 56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  To me, it was God saying how much worth we have. To punish the rightious and give to the whicked. Is that truly God's way?
  reply report
  77
  Castlepalomaposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I was thinking about women, was I way off
  reply report
59
paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago
@Cags You do know that you are a rascal, don't you?
reply report
1. 72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Really? Hadn't considered it.
  reply report
  59
  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I will miss you.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Am I going somewhere I don't know as of yet? Or are you going somewhere which you haven't yet told me?
  reply report
  59
  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Me. My ISP is paid through July 4th. I'm totally out of money. The park manager has given me food through a food bank, so I wont starve. But my internet access ends on July 4th. July 4th is a holiday, so I'm taking my modem to the cable company on July 3rd. And that is that.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Then I shall miss you. It's been a pleasure and have no way to help you.
  reply report
61
Druid Dudeposted 11 years ago
Bush is better than Quayle...remember Quayle? When serving Quayle, a crisp white wine is preferable...but bush goes with any wine! Recently the U.S. Gov decided that previous administrations had short changed the tribes on what were basic treaty elements, and are making reparations to the tribes to the tune of $90 million dollars. This just happened and concerns the period of time going back to the early 1990's...not 1890's. Thanks for the cash, guys...!
reply report
60
sen.sush23posted 11 years ago
LOL!
reply report
72
Cagsilposted 11 years ago
And this thread got to politics how exactly?
reply report
1. 56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Ask JSchams. I made a mention of politicians using religion to their advantage, I did not make any mention of a particular set of political viewpoints.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I just thought I'd say something.
  reply report
61
pennyofheavenposted 11 years ago
So if we can change destinations perhaps there was no one destination as we once might of thought.
reply report
76
Kangaroo_Jaseposted 11 years ago
lol bloody funny Ray
reply report
1. 72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Jase, been a while. Nice to see you. Hope things are well and I'm glad you found this funny. At first I did, then I stop to think about it and opened this thread.
  reply report
59
paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago
And it's another day in the neighborhood...
reply report
1. 72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes it is.
  
  Even if that neighborhood is a global community.
  reply report
  59
  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  HP and their forums have certainly changed my gestalt in that regard.
  reply report
  72
  Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Here's another laugh for you
  
  reply report
61
Druid Dudeposted 11 years ago
Everything falls into place...click....click....click, like the fall of dominoes. We are also dominoes, click, click, click.Now who set up the damned dominoes?
reply report
1. 56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Who Cares?
  
  You're alive aren't you?
  
  So then, what does having a God matter?
  
  Are we all not in the same boat?
  
  Are we all not quivering bags of skin?
  reply report
  61
  pennyofheavenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Haha sorry but you made me laugh with the term quivering bags of skin. Never heard it put quite like that before. Hehe.
  reply report
  56
  nonto21posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It's true though, to an extent.
  reply report
  61
  pennyofheavenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hehe
  reply report

Post a Reply

jump to first post

Necessary
HubPages Device ID	This is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
Login	This is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google Recaptcha	This is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
Akismet	This is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google Analytics	This is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic Pixel	This is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web Services	This is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
Cloudflare	This is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted Libraries	Javascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)

Features
Google Custom Search	This is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google Maps	Some articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google Charts	This is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host API	This service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTube	Some articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Vimeo	Some articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Paypal	This is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook Login	You can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Maven	This supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)

Marketing
Google AdSense	This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClick	Google provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index Exchange	This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Sovrn	This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook Ads	This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad Marketplace	This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexus	This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Openx	This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon Project	This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLift	This is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say Media	We partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing Pixels	We may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking Pixels	We may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.

Statistics
Author Google Analytics	This is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
Comscore	ComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking Pixel	Some articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)
Clicksco	This is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy)

This says it all. LOL!

Arts and Design

Autos

Books, Literature, and Writing

Business and Employment

Education and Science

Entertainment and Media

Family and Parenting

Fashion and Beauty

Food and Cooking

Games, Toys, and Hobbies

Gender and Relationships

Health

Holidays and Celebrations

Home and Garden

HubPages Tutorials and Community

Personal Finance

Pets and Animals

Politics and Social Issues

Religion and Philosophy

Sports and Recreation

Technology

Travel and Places

About Us

This website uses cookies

This says it all. LOL!

Related Discussions

This website uses cookies