I want to set up a couple websites, and am wondering the best and easiest way to set them up would be- I've got one that I set up through Yahoo, but I haven't really done anything with it.
Any suggestions from my fellow hubbers?
Thanks!

If you mean business - open your own hosting account, register your own domain(s) and go from there

I am going to set one up for gardening and one for kids with adhd- then I want to backlink to here and vice versa, and set up google adsense on them.

You planning on building them from scratch? Say with a HTML editor such as Dreamweaver and create your own graphics?

Or are you planning on installing Wordpress and doing a blog?

Or other?

Dorsi wrote:

then I want to backlink to here and vice versa

Isn't there something about reciprocal linking that Adsense doesn't like?  Or did I just dream that?

Dorsi Adsense is tricky to get right and getting wrong can either cost you income because you get smart priced or worst case (like you family helps and clicks the ads) get you banned.

WordPress is almost certainly the best way to go if you are looking to attract organic traffic but there is an awful lot to learn in this game I wrote about setting up wordpress on your own domain here
http://hubpages.com/hub/Setup-a-WordPre … r-Articles

note although the blog I used as the example in this hub initially had Adsense on it I took it off because I am worried about smartpricing and am using an alternative network

Also the whole internet marketing game is interesting to say the least - if you are interested in making $ online read my internet marketing hub

Marisa Wright wrote:

Dorsi wrote:

then I want to backlink to here and vice versa

Isn't there something about reciprocal linking that Adsense doesn't like?  Or did I just dream that?

If I may add...It's not so much Adsense that dislikes recip. linking, but Google in general.  Here's Google's take on linking

http://www.google.com/support/webmaster … &type=

I agree with Misha in that the best way for a traditional website is to purchase a hosting account and a domain name. Domains cost about $10.00  per year and a good hosting account, with email, management tools, c-panel, etc. runs about $100.00 per year.

If you don't know HTML / CSS, then you have a couple options: either pay to have a site built (there are many freelancers on ELance who provide website creation services for cheap), or  use a free template and modify (well, some HTML and CSS experience is needed to modify a template). 

Here are a few free website template sites:
http://www.openwebdesign.org
http://www.oswd.org/

Wordpress is a great choice for either a blog, or even a "traditional" website.  The management system is easy to use.  You can either utilize the free version or install it on your host account (if it's a good host company, there will be a one-click install process via your account's cpanel).

A tip:  Quality content geared towards your visitors should be the main objective to having a website.

Wow thanks everybody- this is all great advice.
I want to make this as easy as possible for myself- I don't know HTML or any of the technical stuff so as user friendly as possible is they way I want to go.
As for the gardening site, I envision just a fun place for gardeners to go to - and set up adsense on it- I don't have to backlink if that will get me in trouble- no I don't want that.
I envision later on users being able to uplaod their garden pictures, maybe a forum of sorts- I'll see how it develops.
And the ADHD site- I want it to be sort of a clearinghouse for parents where they can get advice and links for more information about adhd, and maybe also a forum there too.
I now it maybe sounds too ambitious but this is what I am thinking,
The main thing right now is I want to provide good content, not duplicate in any way of what I write about here.
So linking between sites is frowned upon? I don't understand, I see it done all the time? ( maybe I'm using the wrong term? I just want to be able to also point visitors to the HubPages  when they are at the website)

Dorsi wrote:

Wow thanks everybody- this is all great advice.
I want to make this as easy as possible for myself- I don't know HTML or any of the technical stuff so as user friendly as possible is they way I want to go.
As for the gardening site, I envision just a fun place for gardeners to go to - and set up adsense on it- I don't have to backlink if that will get me in trouble- no I don't want that.
I envision later on users being able to uplaod their garden pictures, maybe a forum of sorts- I'll see how it develops.
And the ADHD site- I want it to be sort of a clearinghouse for parents where they can get advice and links for more information about adhd, and maybe also a forum there too.
I now it maybe sounds too ambitious but this is what I am thinking,
The main thing right now is I want to provide good content, not duplicate in any way of what I write about here.
So linking between sites is frowned upon? I don't understand, I see it done all the time? ( maybe I'm using the wrong term? I just want to be able to also point visitors to the HubPages  when they are at the website)

Once people worked out that backlinks were really important, they started this game of "I'll link to you if you link to me",

Google is smart enough to detect that (and it's by domain, not by page). That means that you need to create one-way links - as soon as you link back in the other direction, the links more or less cancel out. (Snip intricate detail of exceptions and weightings and other boring stuff.)

You need to plan your linking STRATEGY, and it goes like this:

1. Where do I want people to end up? (Hint the site where you make MONEY goes here)

2. Where can I build something to attract search engine traffic (since the structure of a site that is selling things is not entirely compatible with search engine optimisation)?

Your Level 2 sites then point at the landing page of your money site (or sites), but your money site (or sites) don't reciprocate.

3. How can I send link love to my Level 1 and Level 2 sites?

This is where you build Squidoo lenses, Hubs, articles in directories, blogs and blog posts on major blogging platforms, and have them point at your Level 1 and Level 2 sites. It is perfectly OK for all these pages at this level to point at one another. (Authority sites pointing at other authority sites don't get penalised the way your own private sites would for reciprocal linking.)

This is also where you social bookmark everything - Level 1 site landing page, all pages on Level 2 sites, Level 3 pages on social authority sites and blogs - everything. Bookmark your  profile page on one site on all the other sites, and so on around the circle until all your profiles are bookmarked everywhere. Bookmark your bookmarks, if you have the time.

And this is also where you go out and post your money site landing page in your signature in blog comments and forum posts.

Level 3 is casting a wide net of backlinks to catch "search engine link love" and channel it to your Level 2 sites, which are all pretty, just the way the search engines like them. Your Level 2 sites collect the "link love" AND the search engine traffic, and channel both toward your money site landing page.

Make sense?

Jenny

Yep, Jenny, makes perfect sense

Inspirepub wrote:

Dorsi wrote:

Wow thanks everybody- this is all great advice.
I want to make this as easy as possible for myself- I don't know HTML or any of the technical stuff so as user friendly as possible is they way I want to go.
As for the gardening site, I envision just a fun place for gardeners to go to - and set up adsense on it- I don't have to backlink if that will get me in trouble- no I don't want that.
I envision later on users being able to uplaod their garden pictures, maybe a forum of sorts- I'll see how it develops.
And the ADHD site- I want it to be sort of a clearinghouse for parents where they can get advice and links for more information about adhd, and maybe also a forum there too.
I now it maybe sounds too ambitious but this is what I am thinking,
The main thing right now is I want to provide good content, not duplicate in any way of what I write about here.
So linking between sites is frowned upon? I don't understand, I see it done all the time? ( maybe I'm using the wrong term? I just want to be able to also point visitors to the HubPages  when they are at the website)

Once people worked out that backlinks were really important, they started this game of "I'll link to you if you link to me",

Google is smart enough to detect that (and it's by domain, not by page). That means that you need to create one-way links - as soon as you link back in the other direction, the links more or less cancel out. (Snip intricate detail of exceptions and weightings and other boring stuff.)

You need to plan your linking STRATEGY, and it goes like this:

1. Where do I want people to end up? (Hint the site where you make MONEY goes here)

2. Where can I build something to attract search engine traffic (since the structure of a site that is selling things is not entirely compatible with search engine optimisation)?

Your Level 2 sites then point at the landing page of your money site (or sites), but your money site (or sites) don't reciprocate.

3. How can I send link love to my Level 1 and Level 2 sites?

This is where you build Squidoo lenses, Hubs, articles in directories, blogs and blog posts on major blogging platforms, and have them point at your Level 1 and Level 2 sites. It is perfectly OK for all these pages at this level to point at one another. (Authority sites pointing at other authority sites don't get penalised the way your own private sites would for reciprocal linking.)

This is also where you social bookmark everything - Level 1 site landing page, all pages on Level 2 sites, Level 3 pages on social authority sites and blogs - everything. Bookmark your  profile page on one site on all the other sites, and so on around the circle until all your profiles are bookmarked everywhere. Bookmark your bookmarks, if you have the time.

And this is also where you go out and post your money site landing page in your signature in blog comments and forum posts.

Level 3 is casting a wide net of backlinks to catch "search engine link love" and channel it to your Level 2 sites, which are all pretty, just the way the search engines like them. Your Level 2 sites collect the "link love" AND the search engine traffic, and channel both toward your money site landing page.

Make sense?

Jenny

Wow, sounds like you know what you doing. Are you SEO expert?

...and this explains why I never got going with making money online.  I'm exhausted just reading Jenny's description!

Jenny that is a fantastic explanation: I have to stop and think some days what is supposed to be pointing at what :-) I am thinking about writing it down and drawing a chart - but its not simple:-)

Marisa: the bottom line is that writing the article/webite is about 10% of the job - the other 90% is backlinks - Im told is boring but will make you money: I can vouch for the former, too soon to tell on the later :-)

Wow great advice Jenny and this is where I get stuck- it all makes sense but it sounds like a lot of tecno mumbo jumbo to me, honestly. I just want to write and do the graphics, and the layouts, I wonder if i could barter some signs for someone to do the expert linking for me...lol..
(I'm sort of kidding there but not really)
I've always done better at the creative part and the technical stuff gets stuck somewhere in my brain in an unknown place..........
But I'm learning....slowly but surely!!!
I will keep plugging away and every day I am learning something new and exciting here!

vietnamese wrote:

Inspirepub wrote:

Dorsi wrote:

Wow thanks everybody- this is all great advice.
I want to make this as easy as possible for myself- I don't know HTML or any of the technical stuff so as user friendly as possible is they way I want to go.
As for the gardening site, I envision just a fun place for gardeners to go to - and set up adsense on it- I don't have to backlink if that will get me in trouble- no I don't want that.
I envision later on users being able to uplaod their garden pictures, maybe a forum of sorts- I'll see how it develops.
And the ADHD site- I want it to be sort of a clearinghouse for parents where they can get advice and links for more information about adhd, and maybe also a forum there too.
I now it maybe sounds too ambitious but this is what I am thinking,
The main thing right now is I want to provide good content, not duplicate in any way of what I write about here.
So linking between sites is frowned upon? I don't understand, I see it done all the time? ( maybe I'm using the wrong term? I just want to be able to also point visitors to the HubPages  when they are at the website)

Once people worked out that backlinks were really important, they started this game of "I'll link to you if you link to me",

Google is smart enough to detect that (and it's by domain, not by page). That means that you need to create one-way links - as soon as you link back in the other direction, the links more or less cancel out. (Snip intricate detail of exceptions and weightings and other boring stuff.)

You need to plan your linking STRATEGY, and it goes like this:

1. Where do I want people to end up? (Hint the site where you make MONEY goes here)

2. Where can I build something to attract search engine traffic (since the structure of a site that is selling things is not entirely compatible with search engine optimisation)?

Your Level 2 sites then point at the landing page of your money site (or sites), but your money site (or sites) don't reciprocate.

3. How can I send link love to my Level 1 and Level 2 sites?

This is where you build Squidoo lenses, Hubs, articles in directories, blogs and blog posts on major blogging platforms, and have them point at your Level 1 and Level 2 sites. It is perfectly OK for all these pages at this level to point at one another. (Authority sites pointing at other authority sites don't get penalised the way your own private sites would for reciprocal linking.)

This is also where you social bookmark everything - Level 1 site landing page, all pages on Level 2 sites, Level 3 pages on social authority sites and blogs - everything. Bookmark your  profile page on one site on all the other sites, and so on around the circle until all your profiles are bookmarked everywhere. Bookmark your bookmarks, if you have the time.

And this is also where you go out and post your money site landing page in your signature in blog comments and forum posts.

Level 3 is casting a wide net of backlinks to catch "search engine link love" and channel it to your Level 2 sites, which are all pretty, just the way the search engines like them. Your Level 2 sites collect the "link love" AND the search engine traffic, and channel both toward your money site landing page.

Make sense?

Jenny

Wow, sounds like you know what you doing. Are you SEO expert?

I am only an egg ....

Lissie wrote:

Marisa: the bottom line is that writing the article/webite is about 10% of the job - the other 90% is backlinks

That's pretty much the conclusion I've come to, too!

Dorsi wrote:

I wonder if i could barter some signs for someone to do the expert linking for me...lol..
(I'm sort of kidding there but not really)

Sure you can outsource this. As usual, the problem is to find who will do a good job for reasonable money.

Dorsi wrote:

I want to set up a couple websites, and am wondering the best and easiest way to set them up would be- I've got one that I set up through Yahoo, but I haven't really done anything with it.
Any suggestions from my fellow hubbers?
Thanks!

Dorsi the easiest way to go is to get yourself a template. free or purchase one. You need something like Frontpage a html editor to work on. Take your template and change the colours and anything else you want to so there is no duplicate penalty.

Save that as your template page. Next add content to it and save that as your index page. Next take your original saved template and ad different content to it and save it as the keyword you have targeted on that page.

Rinse and repeat. The secret is build a page and get links to it. Ideally write an article pointing to it or send someone ( I wonder who) a request to stumble it and digg it for you.

Once you get to this stage you will need to learn about scripts to load in your forum page and blog, pictures etc. Anyone need an ebook on this I have a link but its ten dollars for the book. Best ebook I have seen too.

Hope this points you in the right direction to building your own website. It is a lot of fun too. If you have adsense its a simple matter of dropping the code in on your page where you want it to appear.

terryg wrote:

Dorsi wrote:

I want to set up a couple websites, and am wondering the best and easiest way to set them up would be- I've got one that I set up through Yahoo, but I haven't really done anything with it.
Any suggestions from my fellow hubbers?
Thanks!

Dorsi the easiest way to go is to get yourself a template. free or purchase one. You need something like Frontpage a html editor to work on. Take your template and change the colours and anything else you want to so there is no duplicate penalty.

Save that as your template page. Next add content to it and save that as your index page. Next take your original saved template and ad different content to it and save it as the keyword you have targeted on that page.

Rinse and repeat. The secret is build a page and get links to it. Ideally write an article pointing to it or send someone ( I wonder who) a request to stumble it and digg it for you.

Once you get to this stage you will need to learn about scripts to load in your forum page and blog, pictures etc. Anyone need an ebook on this I have a link but its ten dollars for the book. Best ebook I have seen too.

Hope this points you in the right direction to building your own website. It is a lot of fun too. If you have adsense its a simple matter of dropping the code in on your page where you want it to appear.

Thanks Terry- this is great information- I'm getting excited now thinking about it- the part about building it with templates is something I can do- and working with the colors, text and layouts is what I do best.
Then add my photos and words and voila! I'm excited! Thanks!

Dorsi wrote:

Thanks Terry- this is great information- I'm getting excited now thinking about it- the part about building it with templates is something I can do- and working with the colors, text and layouts is what I do best.
Then add my photos and words and voila! I'm excited! Thanks!

I am glad your getting into this. If you think of your site like silo's. That is one at the top leading down to two just like a flow chart. Under each of the two you have your silo going down from each side with each similar keyword targeted.

Of course you can have more than two. Internal link each silo with one link back to your home page or the second level of the flow chart.

Site structure is important so look at it just like a flow chart and you cannot go wrong. I am sure someone esle can guide you in uploading, ftp etc.. Its not that hard. Remember, build a page get links, build a page get links ...

While I am here I came across a social bookmarking technique. It includes having multiple accounts and I am talking about having up to fifty of them. It is a sound strategy, anyone interested? I'll start a new thread as I have to stop hijacking!!!