This is one question I actually wanted to ask a bunch of men for an honest answer: When asked to pick between thin and curvy women, what would you pick? And what body type or rather who is your ideal woman?
it matters if she got a fugly face or not. but sometimes they got a bangin' body and you want to do it anyways. you can just do it doggystyle.
I like curvy, buxom and pretty too. Above all they must have dandelion toes so pretty and suckable kissable and....hehe
Yes, on both accounts
Sorry, that's probably not helpful but to me, there are so many different things about a woman that can make her beautiful, I don't think the curviness matters too much. But that's just me. My ideal woman is someone that I admire deeply. Sorry, that's just the old-fashioned romantic in me talking
If both women are of equal intelligence, creativity, attractive face, beautiful eyes... I'd probably go for curvy.
And this is not you guys being all politically correct and all?
I'd say the ideal is probably a kind of 'thin-curvy'... Slim, just not straight up and down.
I think though it probably really depends on people's definition of 'curvy.' To some (especially, say, on singles sites), curvy means larger or rounder, or even overweight. To others, maybe it means an hour glass shape. ?
But! I'm not a guy, so!
See the thing I have a problem with, is the androgynous, angular and gaunt look that fashion tends to promote, which makes women think that it is actually desirable to be that way.
I really do think that women are meant to carry extra fat because women undergo the rigours of child birth and breast feeding. It really takes is out of you (pun intended ).
I actually know more about this whole topic than I should write about or even admit! You probably would prefer some guys' real answers...
Cannot say I know anything about child birth, though--I know it took my one sister a while to get back into shape after having her kids. Now she's the slimmest she has ever been (she works out like crazy), but she did go through this period were she was just a bit puffy.
I've read that the ideal BMI for female attractiveness is between 19 and 21--so that isn't the scrawny underweight runway model thing at all. Those women often have BMI's under 18, which can be unhealthy. And you know, you look at Playboy, etc...and those women have curves--they don't look like scrawny teenage boys.
Course, that's different from girls who are athletic looking & kind of more angular naturally--they aren't necessarily underweight--and some people prefer that kind of look.
The first thing I look for in any perspective mate is thoughts...and a personality.
The other stuff...well, thats why they invented beer.
Just kidding ;D
I honestly believe if a man choices his mate by the way she looks he is never going to be truly happy in life. Society as a whole has made women so insecure about them selves even women that are not visually attractive still have awesome minds and the ability to hold a conversation.
So yeah this guy goes out and gets this drop dead girl who knows nothing about anything. How is this appealing? This works for obese women as well.
I think that men as a whole have depended on the looks of their significant others for far to long. They treat women as trophies and not creatures of God that they are. All women are beautiful in their own way whether that one way is accepted by one man or the other.
Men, look at it like this. How do you think women look at us and go "ewww that guys all fat and crap I don't wanna be with him"? Generally, No. Why, may we ask? Because women view the whole picture. for example, the way we present our selves, our confidence, and yes, our personalities.
I think in general we all need to stop judging by looks and worry about whats truthfully going to hold us all together and that is trust, love and rationality.
Do you really think that's ever going to happen?
Yes, eventually ignorance will fade.
Even human nature can change with education.
It depends on how weak minded an individual is.
Because one is only limited by what he/she accepts as fact. Whether or not you decide to accept these fact's shows just how strong or weak of mind you truely are.
Judging the whole content of a person by what their body looks like?
That is ignorant, even if it is "human nature".
I don't think physical attraction is ignorance.
But when does taste evolve itself into ignorance? Physical attributes and the way a person is built from creation is not within their power to control from day one. So who are we to judge one on their outward appearance.
I'm not sure why you keep using the word "ignorance" here. Ignorant of what?
Could it be instinct? Nature rather than nurture? If you have a preference for a certain type of woman, be they large or small, tall or short, darker or lighter, and provided it's not dictated by expectations of others, how can it be anything but personal taste?
It's like music. It's like food.
Some people dig skinny, some prefer muscular, others like a bit of cushion for the pushin'.
If they go out of their way to put others down for not falling within their eye candy parameters then it's... well probably more arrogance than ignorance.
Somewhere along the line 'curvy' became a euphamism for 'fat.' The terms are a bit misleading.
The question looks like it is directed only on the looks of a woman. I have lot of criteria based on which I will choose my lady and looks being one of them. But speaking only in terms of looks and assuming that both of them have every other characteristics that I am looking forward to then I will go for curvy one!
this is a very christian response considering your other forum reply's.
do i need to post a definition of the word ignorance for you?
"lack of knowledge, education, or awareness"
How does this apply to the topic at hand?
Wow. A simple question that has gone way too deep.
Considering all the arguments layed on the table, I think it's intellectually dishonest to ignore the fact that, as a whole, men are visually stimulated. You can't fight nature. I think there are certain traits that will catch an individual's attention faster than others.
I like curvy women. Women, to me, should be feminine, and nothing says feminine like curves. There is a reason that the female form is the most celebrated form in art.
I agree. And I choose to end my opinion on this thread.
I totally agree, visual stimulation is the main part of initial attraction and it would be hypocritical to say that it does not matter what you will be waking up next to for times to come. My point merely is, WHAT it is that is so stimulating?
That's sort of a big question, isn't it? The short answer is those things that humans naturally tend to do, pursue, or prefer in accordance with the general qualities of the species.
Could half agree with that - it all seems to stem back to the nature/nurture debate. Cultural values seem to have an influence, as do 'general' inherent values.
Of course, head-over-heels love is the wildcard in this one
TK - - Very true.
Does it exist? That could be an extremely interesting discussion.
For me as to the original post,
Curvy. I hate the stick figures that appear on magazines.
I have never been thin ever, but recently have put quite a lot of weight on, and it is getting me down, I am on a strict diet now, and the weight is coming off,
I was really surprised last night when my husband said he was pleased I was losing weight, ( and I want to continue to lose much more. ) he was kinda begging not to change the person I am, not to lose the personality I have not to be sucked in to thinking thin is better, .... I have to say I was quite surprised, maybe he thinks I will get myself a younger model or something. We have been married years, and his comments were heartfelt, so I suppose there's an insight in to one man...... He certainly said my body was not the attraction, thank goodness for that.....
I think it is important for us all to be at a weight that is natural to us, be that stick thin or curvy. The important thing is that we don't obsess about being a certain size or looking a certain way. Kudos to your husband, he seems to echo the thoughts expressed by mine when I was getting back into shape after our second daughter. He was pleased that I was getting back to the size and shape I was meant to be rather than that I was losing X amount of weight.
O wow, guess I better put on some weight I am one those stick girls and am tall but really wasn't intentional as for me, I prefer a guy who doesn't put importance on the exterior, is tall, medium weight is good and intelligent
Of course you must not put on weight! My precise point is that we all have size that nature meant us to be and not labour that size issue as long as we are healthy.
Someone here mentioned that we are all programmed to be attracted to different body types; I agree. In fact I strongly agree, which is why the media's preoccupation with a certain body type while eschewing others really puzzles me.
wish I was a stick girl Dame Scribe, whatever the men think, you are fortunate..... in my humble opinion
I think most people (at least those past their teens) will say that being attracted to someone's appearance isn't the ONLY thing that matters, but that it matters - and matters a lot (whether you're a guy or a woman). There are names for those people we love but aren't attracted to - and those names are "relatives" and "platonic friends". People have different tastes in what they find attractive, regardless of what the fashion industry tells everyone. Still, I think it's ignorant (and I know the definition without looking it up) to say that it's "ignorant" when people acknowledge that being attracted to someone matters. The Charlie Brown/Little Red Haired Girl thing is nice when it happens.
Dame, pehaps my words were poorly chosen.
Calista Flockhart (sp) not attractive, at least to me. Hans Solo doesn't seem to mind though.
Initial attraction is the exterior, but if the interior is no good, for me, the attraction goes away. I got lucky though, my wife is beautiful in every way.
My boyfriend likes my hips. If you ask him his favorite body parts on me, he'd say ass, boobs and hips. Those tend to be what makes some women look more feminine. For girls without them, they are seen as feminine because they are petite.
Hips, nice to hold on to during sex, and curves accentuate the body
The animal-like response would be that the hips and boobs are involved in reproduction, and male animals want females to have offspring. Apply to humans? Not as much.
Everyone has their own preference. I like bigger guys.
That brings us to the other question then, do men have to be all macho and muscular and tall and sinewy to be attractive to women? It may be such a cliche but I love wit and intelligence in a guy. That; and nice forearms.
It isn't muscles that I'm attracted to, just bigger. Taller and bigger. I like the big teddy bear type. Sure wit and intelligence is also important. Men don't have to bee macho and muscular and tall etc. to be attractive to women, just like men, women have their "type". Some girls like skinny guys, some don't. It totally depends on the person.
Exactly my point that that we come is all different shapes, and sizes and each of us is unique and uniquely attractive. Which is why there is really no need to conform to any particular type of shape or size promoted by the fashion industry or the weight loss industry.
Intellegence would be high on the agenda for me, though it's nice to look at all these vain men, not sure I would like to be married to them..........
LOL, I also would not know how to deal with a high maintainance guy
First of all, for me I do not like picking up girls. If the girl loves me and is compatible, the curviness and slimness will not come in between. I will love her the way she is, though I will try to tell her afterwards to modify and this also depends on her own wish.
give me a thick woman over a skinny bean pole anyday of the week! thick but not fat. there is a difference! thats my honest answer.
Thanks for all your opinions guys, it gives me a great deal of insight.
Yeah, it is a matter of taste here, too... I like attractive, athletic looking guys with a measure of grace (not big, just nice). Intelligence very important...
Actually wrote a hub on this...
Exactly. Last night on 'Real Sex' there was this guy whose fantasy was to be with big women. Not curvy, but biiiiggg women. Everyone has a preference. There is love out there no matter what size you are. Whatever floats your boat!
I think it depends upon the age of the man (or boy). First, there is the teenage boy and his "urges" who basically thinks any girl is attractive just because she's a girl. Then the guy goes through the "hot chick" phase just because he things she makes him look hotter or more cool and its more about impressing his friends. Then there's the marriagable age guy who is thinking about maybe someday settling down and starts judging women not only on attractiveness, but also on earning ability and other things that his mother would approve of...and so on and so on...until finally a guy chooses a girl becaause they both want companionship.
I know a few guys who thought Rene Zellweger was much sexier as Bridget Jones than her normal skinny self.
One thing I do not like in men is muscle bound bodies. I found them so off putting. I prefer men with a swimmer's build. However, that is the ideal. Normally, if the guy is nice and easy to talk to his outward appearance is not that important to me.
Thanks for increasing the sum of my knowledge Lumberjack and colebabie.Today I have learnt about Scene girls and suicide girls.
I prefer curvy medium girls.
Like my daddy used to say, "the more the cushion, the better the pushin".
There is beauty in every woman, skinny or curvy... doesn't matter:)
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