What are you making on Hubpages?

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  1. Mark Knowles profile image59
    Mark Knowlesposted 17 years ago

    You cannot look at a small section of time. If you look at a month and get an average, that's ok - Misha seems to do very well. Look back through this thread and you will see what he said.

  2. profile image50
    broalexposted 17 years ago

    Hmmmm .. . I Guess I have to review Google`s Help tongue Thanks big_smile

  3. WriterGig profile image61
    WriterGigposted 17 years ago

    Low earnings are the reason I have stopped writing Hub Pages to concentrate on other sites where I am actually earning much more $ per article than I am here. I think I've made .50 from Hub Pages so far. It's really not worth the time investment as yet. sad

    1. Mark Knowles profile image59
      Mark Knowlesposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      It's also fair to say that you are here to promote ehow. Which is one of the worst "teach you how to do stuff we don't know how to do either but hope to make a few bucks," sites I have seen
      http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/2778/sarcasm3ix4.gif

      1. WriterGig profile image61
        WriterGigposted 17 years agoin reply to this

        Wrong, but thanks for playing. I wrote a hub on eHow because I thought it would interest others. I get nothing from it, as eHow does not have a referral program. And in case you didn't notice, I have hubs on other topics. I tried writing a few on different topics to see how they would do as far as readership, comments etc. Judging by the views and comments, it has appealed to some.

        As for Maddie's comment about these posts making her sad, well, that's just silly. Yes, people come here to write and to read and to have their articles enjoyed by others, but curiosity about earnings and being disappointed in low earnings (hey, we all have to eat) doesn't make you less of a writer. Sheesh.

  4. Misha profile image65
    Mishaposted 17 years ago

    I think many people here would love to hear what other sites work better for you. Could you share?

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    broalexposted 17 years ago

    I am the first interested in those sites , Squidoo can bring good money for top Lenses , keywords are very important , but so far , I have published 20 lenses there and trust me , I have been sweating writing those lenses and no revenue sad . One thing I`ve heard about Squidoo that the owners earn 30K / month .... but maybe if I try harder .. Time is pretty short thou big_smile I am waiting for those sites if you are kind to tell us .. But one more thing 6 Hubs can bring you arround 6$ / month if you are lucky and have good ones , most freelancer sites pay an average of 2$ to 10$ / 500 words - 1500 words articles , but there is a difference in all this , hubpages revenue is life time , unless you break any rules or just quit after publishing 1 Hub big_smile

  6. Maddie Ruud profile image70
    Maddie Ruudposted 17 years ago

    These threads make me sad.  One, because it seems like a lot of people are putting in a lot of work for not much payout, and two, because it seems like that's all they're here for.

    I'm not sure how sharing this information helps, but if you really want to know, I currently make about $20 on an average day on AdSense, a few hundred a month from Ebay, and Amazon goes up and down from month to month.  I'm happy with the money coming in, but more importantly, I'm happy with the number of people who post on my hubs like The Truth About Wu-Yi Tea that my information was helpful to them.

    1. stevedimatteo profile image60
      stevedimatteoposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Just because I ask doesn't mean that that is the only reason I am here.  I'm writing here because I love to write, but I'm also here to see if I can make a little money.  Writers would be fooling themselves if that wasn't part of the reason.  We all say "we do it because we love it," which is true only to a certain extent.

      1. Maddie Ruud profile image70
        Maddie Ruudposted 17 years agoin reply to this

        Wasn't trying to criticize.  It wasn't necessarily a reflection on you, but on a series of these threads, and some of the people who post on them (the ones with 2 or 3 hubs each, solely promotional, affiliate links galore, complaining that they aren't making money, though their hubs are all about how to get rich quick).

        1. darkside profile image56
          darksideposted 17 years agoin reply to this

          Ahhh, the taste of irony.

  7. mathan1234 profile image60
    mathan1234posted 17 years ago

    Maddie Ruud = HubPages Ninja

    wink

  8. Rudra profile image68
    Rudraposted 17 years ago

    Meagre earnings. PPC are hard as it is plus sharing is harder. Many internet users are aware of the ads and don’t click on it. For example, I have casually asked several people about the ads at work and elsewhere when I see them surfing and it seems they are aware of it; hence many tend not to go on it. Too much hard work really. Many do it as a hobby or something or enjoy it or just plain addicted.

    I still maintain that during the gold rush the only ones making the money were the ones selling the spades and shovels. I am sure there are big giants making huge amount of money while some are sweating over nothing. There are ebay power-sellers selling pre-made ads loaded sites and make money like crazy. My opinion is that PPC is exhausted and fatigued. Adsense were never meant for such kind of things.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image85
      Marisa Wrightposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      So true!

    2. Greg from Maine profile image60
      Greg from Maineposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, there are people making huge amounts of money online, although everyone has a different opinion as to what qualifies as huge. PPC can make you a lot of money, but you have to be on the right side of the equation. I make far more than 99% of my money from Adwords, not Adsense. Don't sell the clicks to Google for pennies, it is possible to put those clicks to much better use than that. I did write a hub about it.

  9. Maren Morgan M-T profile image86
    Maren Morgan M-Tposted 17 years ago

    So, it seems that an audience for we authors who love writing will be the most reliable reward that hubpages can deliver.

    1. College politico profile image61
      College politicoposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Depends on how much promotion you do and how good at it you are... take Darkside for example. I'll go out on a limb and say he's making decent money from hubpages.

      But for most hubbers... you're probably right.

    2. Inspirepub profile image69
      Inspirepubposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Yep, that would be my assessment.

      It's a fairly worthwhile reward, though - the comments and emails from readers.

      It's better than having the files languishing unread on my hard drive ...


      Jenny

  10. Evelyn Lim profile image68
    Evelyn Limposted 17 years ago

    Good question posted.  It got me wondering as I have started my Hubpages account 4 weeks ago.  Some analysis is definitely due. 

    I've got to admit that my objectives are slightly different, than just earning adsense here.  For some of my hubs, I am hoping to rank them well on the search engines.  Hence, keyword research is important to build a hub, because I want people to find my hubpage when they search for the topic that it is on.  No point writing a hub if there is little or no readership.  While I love to write, I believe that it has to be a conscious effort to lead me somewhere (more targetted traffic, more readers who get what they want).

    Some promotion is definitely needed.  I promote my hubpages in a number of relevant places. Since I prefer to build my hubpages in answer to questions that people have, I will send my hubpage link to anyone who asks me specific questions with answers that are contained on my hubpage.

    So here's the results after looking into my adsense account.  I realised that I forgot to track all my 12 hubs.  CTR for 8 hubs is an average of 3%.  Earnings is low though at $2.  But here is what is key to me: one of my hubpages is now on the first page of google. What used to take me weeks or months to do is now taking me less than 4 weeks to accomplish.

    I do not produce poor quality hubs even while attempting to do SEO.  I endeavor to publish quality content.  I take the time to search for relevant videos and will even pay to acquire photos that are relevant to the topic. (You can take a look at some of my hubs for some idea.)
    Because of the time it takes to put a reasonable piece together, I cannot produce a hub everyday. So while keyword optimisation is what I try to do here as well, I am truly enjoying myself in the process. There is a match in every sense of what I am doing.

    Best regards,
    Evelyn

  11. mathan1234 profile image60
    mathan1234posted 17 years ago

    I've been wanting to do some freelance writing on the side. I don't really have a portfolio to speak of. I feel like after writing enough Hubs, I'll have a few pieces of article writing that I'll be proud to have in a portfolio. It's good practice to get the wheels turning again too since it's been quite awhile since I've written much of anything.

    I haven't made any money to speak of yet on Hubpages. I feel that if I keep trying to contribute quality content that maybe I'll make a small amount of money on the side. I'm not expecting to get rich with my Hubs or anything though. smile

  12. belief713 profile image60
    belief713posted 17 years ago

    Pretty interesting. Compared to some, I am not doing bad - compared to others, I could do better. I think a lot more people are becoming aware of Google AdSense, and therefore don't click - but at the same time, if you are giving them what they are looking for, why click? Me, personally, I don't click on ads often, unless REALLY interested, only because I know on the other end of that person making money off of an AdSense click, there is probably someone losing money with Google AdWords!

    Also, I began to realize that a nice portion of the people reading our hubs are our fellow hubbers and they also probably won't click.

    I am more likely going to click on an eBay or Amazon ad as that is where I do most of (at least 90%) of my online shopping! Which was something I like(d) about HubPages. I was hoping to make $50-100/month with AdSense, but it will most likely take longer. Personally, I use search engines mostly for content, gather the needed info, and then from there go on to my "same old" shopping places (if we're talking retail/tangible products). If it's an ebook or something similar I'm interested in (or sometimes if I know it's an affiliate link), I will keep the window open for the person who I originally found it through, open a new window, do my research, and then if I decide to purchase, go back and purchase it through the original site I found it through. I wonder how many do the same or similar? (I know that's kind of a different subject, but not necessarily, because if someone found your content useful, they may either be using it as just that - content - or just beginning their search, which will make a difference in your click through rates.)

    My first two weeks I had nothing (no clicks). Then all of a sudden I was averaging about $1.50/day, however in the past few days that amount has dropped dramatically to about $0.30 - $0.40 p/day. But it's better than nothing and as someone else mentioned, it is residual - so it's a long but slow and steady payoff.

    My CTR is not too bad, I don't think. I don't want to give an amount because of risking violating policy and loosing my AdSense account. But let's say, on average I do about double of what Mark does, but I've also had a few good days where I've done the low end of what Misha does! And that's for an average of 50-100 impressions/day across the span of my hubs, which is not much traffic (I mean it's not bad, but could be a lot better).

    Mark - I thought you would be making a lot more, but I think I have to agree and I think it makes sense that maybe you do deliver too much information and that's why the low click through/conversion rate. I have been thinking the same about some of my hubs lately as well, although with certain ones my priority is to deliver content, and because of this, don't expect a high click through rate.

    Misha - I agree with you on keyword research. I think I've somewhat got that part down as most of my traffic comes from Search Engines and is on Google's first page for a few different keywords. I think keyword research is really important and so is knowing how to do it right. Which is where I need to learn more. I think I need to learn more about how to "persuade the reader," as I think you mentioned, rather than just offer my opinion or information.

    That, and I don't think I am targeting keywords that pay higher per click, which also can make a big difference.

    Maddie - Are the earnings you mentioned coming solely from HubPages, or from other sources?

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    terrygposted 17 years ago

    A nice little trick is to use your competitive ad filter on your adsense earnings to rule out mfa sites that generate 3cent clicks.

    Here's the url that does this for you. I have noticed a marked increase since I implemented it.

    http://www.adsblacklist.com

    Notice its not an affiliate link, see we can learn.rollroll

  14. Mark Knowles profile image59
    Mark Knowlesposted 17 years ago

    Hmm that's odd - this looks suspiciously like an affiliate link at the bottom of your "Make Money Writing for eHow" hub.

    http://www.ehow.com/how_2135529_passive … icles.html

    Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. In which case, my mistake.

    http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9811/banana666dd7.gif

    I agree about Maddie's comment though. Not sure why she made that as all of her hubs are chock-a-block-full of ebay and amazon boxes.

    1. WriterGig profile image61
      WriterGigposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry, Mark, you're wrong. That is a link to an article I wrote about creating passive income by writing eHow articles. Click on the link to read the article and I get 0 cents. It's just an additional resource for the reader. Like I said, eHow has no affiliate programs. tongue

    2. Maddie Ruud profile image70
      Maddie Ruudposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Whoa, whoa now.  I don't check the forums often enough for bashing me to be worthwhile, since you won't get a timely comeback.  If you want to get technical, I generally add only one Amazon and Ebay capsule each, except on Hubs like Where to Buy Rare & Retired Webkinz, which is, after all, a commercial topic.

      To someone who asked, yes, HubPages is the sole source of the income I stated.

      And I wasn't trying to be condescending at all.  I'm making money here.  I like making money here.  I was, in case y'all read my follow-up to the OP getting pissy about it, not targeting anyone in particular with that comment.  I was talking about the phenomenon we've all noticed: people signing up with names about making money, getting rich, and then coming on the forums and asking how to make money, or complaining about their lack of HP income.  This thread isn't really one of those offenders, but for me, it came in that context.

  15. thooghun profile image94
    thooghunposted 17 years ago

    6 weeks in, I'm looking at a cigarette pack a month. Go me! wink

    1. Stacie Naczelnik profile image65
      Stacie Naczelnikposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Cigarettes are expensive, so go you!

      You should quit though.  Nasty habit.  Unhealthy.  Plus, it makes you stink.

      1. thooghun profile image94
        thooghunposted 17 years agoin reply to this

        I never said I smoked. Not a big fan of condescension either, maybe I'm misinterpreting, in which case I apolgize wink

        1. Misha profile image65
          Mishaposted 17 years agoin reply to this

          No, it was just a woman defending her right to control the environment big_smile

          1. Mark Knowles profile image59
            Mark Knowlesposted 17 years agoin reply to this

            And all the men she knows big_smile
            http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6448/ohnonj4.gif

        2. Stacie Naczelnik profile image65
          Stacie Naczelnikposted 17 years agoin reply to this

          No, I was just being silly.  No condescension meant or implied on my part.

  16. gamergirl profile image88
    gamergirlposted 17 years ago

    Currently just over 8000 views, 35 hubs (but a couple with zero ads due to personal choice), 102 fans and about 10 bucks made.

    But I don't really promote my stuff, nor do I have alot of affiliate programs I'm pushing or anything like that.

    I just write. 

    Well.. okay I linked my floozy hub in the comments page on perez hilton's site a couple times.. but that's it!

  17. Peter M. Lopez profile image71
    Peter M. Lopezposted 17 years ago

    I've been here 2 mos. and I almost have enough for 1 trip to Starbucks.

    ...I mean for the gas to go to Starbucks, certainly not enough for a cup of coffee smile

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    broalexposted 17 years ago

    Hello people ... I was talking about my income earlier in this post , well not satisfied at  all can`t say that I`ve only made a pack of cigarettes , but the revenues from hubpages  alone , apart from my other sites .. is the lowest comparing it to my other blogs .. The bad thing is that we are not paid to write here , only flagship hubs are paid. As far as I know. Hubbing is fun thou and maybe in 12 - 24 months achieve a satisfactory income , don`t think more than 400$ / month if you keep on working hard .. and updating all hubs come up with news capsules and of course without promoting the hubs , no one can make a big deal !

    happy hubbing!

  19. gamergirl profile image88
    gamergirlposted 17 years ago

    Nobody likes a negative nelly.

    1. Stacie Naczelnik profile image65
      Stacie Naczelnikposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Nope.  Especially me.  This morning.  When I'm a bit grumpy and need more coffee.

      That was off topic.

      But, I do appreciate Gamergirl's positivity.

  20. gamergirl profile image88
    gamergirlposted 17 years ago

    I'd just like to further derail the thread by telling you all that you're ALL doing awesome.  To come to a site like Hubpages and put yourself out there for the world to see, to write with the quality and style that many of the people here in this thread have.. well, it's just wonderful.

    Success is not always measured in how much money you've made.

    Think about all the things you've learned since you joined Hubpages.  How much is education worth to you?  I know I've learned quite a bit, and am flattered and humbled by the earnings I've made here.  I weigh my satisfaction in my earnings with the wealth of knowledge present (for free, even!) and consider myself to have come out far ahead.

    Have a good day, all!

    1. Marisa Wright profile image85
      Marisa Wrightposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you, Gamergirl, good reminder.

      However, I think you have to allow that a goodly number of members are here because they have a specific goal to earn money on the internet, not because they feel driven to write. Lissie is a good example - and just because her motivation is money, doesn't make her any less of a nice person.

      Personally, I'm grateful to HubPages. I joined Helium and found myself getting very focussed on making money (or should I say, very focussed on the lack of success in making it).  I moved to HP hoping the income would be better. Not convinced it is, but it's more fun, so the money has become less important. Thanks HP for putting things back into perspective for me!

  21. gamergirl profile image88
    gamergirlposted 17 years ago

    I can't decide which one of you boys is worse.

    Spankings for both of you.

  22. About-The-Home profile image60
    About-The-Homeposted 17 years ago

    It's not necessarily being negative to recognize that there may be challenges and to find ways to overcome them.
    Not saying that that was the intention but just my 2 cents worth.


    GerryM

  23. About-The-Home profile image60
    About-The-Homeposted 17 years ago

    Sorry Gamergirl

    Put me down for a damn good thrashing.

    GerryM

  24. Zsuzsy Bee profile image86
    Zsuzsy Beeposted 17 years ago

    I'd like to add my two cents worth. I have no idea what I'm dodoing.I have adsense on my 53 hubs, which I was able to add somehow ??? I don't know how to link or what to link to but my fortune is growing steadily. As of last night I'm looking where to invest my $10.49. High risk I think what the hell...we only live once. Zs

    1. College politico profile image61
      College politicoposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Well once you add your adsense affiliate code hubpages automatically adds google ads to your hub (well actually they were already there. you just start getting credit for them). You don't need to add any boxes or anything like you do for amazon or ebay.

      But anyway your attitude is what I wish I saw more often on here. I mean be happy with what you've made simply from sharing your advice or opinion on a subject that you choose.

      Also if you aren't happy with your income you should really wonder whose fault that is... After all Hubpages is only a platform for your work. You're the one who has to promote your work. But honestly don't worry about it... you're never going to make a living off of a site like this anyway.

      1. College politico profile image61
        College politicoposted 17 years agoin reply to this

        Oh I just wanted to clarify that this wasn't directed at zsuzsy bee but rather at the hard core complainers.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image59
          Mark Knowlesposted 17 years agoin reply to this

          I am not seeing any hardcore complainers here. Merely a group discussing the income making options and the best way to achieve what they want.

          1. College politico profile image61
            College politicoposted 17 years agoin reply to this

            Maybe hardcore was a bit strong. But I'm referring not just to this thread but also all other threads where people have complained that hubpages doesn't make them enough money. I'm only trying to say that if you want to make money its your responsibility not hubpages. I'm sure you would agree...

  25. Maren Morgan M-T profile image86
    Maren Morgan M-Tposted 17 years ago

    Maybe we need to think more like Zsuszy Bee:  the glass is Half FULL; every day's a holiday and every meal is a feast!  wink

  26. stevedimatteo profile image60
    stevedimatteoposted 17 years ago

    Yeah, I'm not expecting to make a fortune here, and part of it definitely is to get work out there and join a community while engaging in fun topics such as these.  In addition to other stuff that I do, I'll be happy with whatever I make here.  In other words, I stay positive.  If I got negative all the time when it came to an income through online writing, I'd be jumping off a bridge riiiight abouuuut now.

  27. Whitney05 profile image82
    Whitney05posted 17 years ago

    HubPages isn't a get rich quick scheme. I think a lot of people who join think, "Ok I'll write a few hubs and make hundreds!" ... Yea... Doesn't work that way...

  28. Mark Knowles profile image59
    Mark Knowlesposted 17 years ago

    Absolutely  - for once we agree on something smile

    Most people seem to think it is easier than it actually is to make money online - both at hubpages and other sites.

    This is largely down to the amount of people advertising how easy it is to make money online. smile

    I am quite happy with the amount of money I make here, because I get other things from it. I did actually write a hub about making money online where I told people how much I made and where I make it. I must admit to being a little mystified as to why my adsense CTR is so low, but it's also fair to say I haven't written most of my hubs with the intentions of generating adsense clicks.

    Realistically, it is unlikely anyone can make a living from hubpages income. I know there is talk about a few mythical hubbers making thousands of dollars a week, but I choose to have several other income sources.

    Some things do work better than others, and I would suggest any one wanting to make more money look at Maddie Rudd's hubs for ideas as to layout and subject matter. Some things pay better than others.

  29. College politico profile image61
    College politicoposted 17 years ago

    Couldn't agree with you more.

  30. caspar profile image60
    casparposted 17 years ago

    It is a pleasure to be part of this community.  To be able to write and have an audience, to be informed and entertained by others, to be inspired to research and learn about new topics and share our knowledge.  As an aspiring writer, I find Hubpages to be a great place to practise my writing skills, and I get feedback too.

    The income is a little bit of icing on the cake - I feel a bit of a boost when I notice a few cents added to my Adsense account, but I don't see it as a job-replacing income.

    http://www.jeffpylenz.com/INCREDIMAIL%20VOL.2/NEW%20SMALL/flowers.gif  Thanks to everyone who contributes - you make this a good place to be.

  31. Redstorm profile image59
    Redstormposted 17 years ago

    Caspar

    I totally agree. Being able to write and have an audience with feedback is perfect for developing your writing skills.

    A problem could be that’s its addictive.   smile

  32. profile image50
    broalexposted 17 years ago

    Whitney , trust me I know personally people that do e-books and DVD-s on "Get rich schemes" , none of them work , people can get rich in three different ways : Winning the jackpot at the lottery , Stealing and the last and most painful lol is "Work" . You see those who made millions let look at an example Donald Trump I`ve read a whole lot of books of his money making career , this guy was going on for days without sleeping , and here I will point something out .. 1% of the world`s population practice "this kind of sleeping" looool , and I am one of them big_smile Donald Trump even nowadays , goes to work on daily basis , has his own office and works from 8 to 10 hours smile  As a conclusion Get Rich Instantly ... doesn`t work .. except winning the lottery or stealing as I said but Still lotteries don`t pay you sooner than 30 40 working days , at least in my country where the last big pot was 8 million $ , and guess what ? A millionaire won it lol lol I am getting too deep into this am I ? lol

    Good luck hubbing .. And about income rollI think we all here are for some cash too.. but It`ll come after hard working months , Me personally I will not publish anymore hubs without any keywords  research and "top searches on google" , Most wanted topics and so on , I can handle a lot of topics so that won`t be difficult tongue  as I said It`s not that I do not like to write on Hubpages  , I love it ,  but investing 5 hours on a single hub that won`t even be listed well in google is just a waste of time big_smile  And the Bomb .. 50$ in two months I think I will buy myself a  nice outdoor tripod big_smile tonguetongue

    Great hubbing people !

    smile

  33. profile image0
    RFoxposted 17 years ago

    Well, I am a fiction writer and so am used to not getting paid. At least on hubpages you don't have to read rejection letters big_smile

    I am always amazed that people think they'll suddenly make tonnes of money by becoming a writer or photographer etc. It takes years to establish a name or a presence in the arts. Even on the internet.
    Those sudden success stories you read about have probably ten years of unpaid hard work behind them.

    You can make a living eventually but you better love what you do because it takes HARD WORK. And people know if you're just doing it for the money or if you're doing it for the love and will respond accordingly.

    I'm just ecstatic that one of my hubs made it to googles front page. Interestingly it was the topic I'm most passionate about. Coincidence? smile

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    broalexposted 17 years ago

    Having a hub on google`s first page is not a "news" anymore among the hubbers lol I have mysfelf two of them and that where I get the most traffic from big_smile well you are write being an artist  takes a lot of hard work , but being a good photographer and using the photo stocks to make money , you can a get a really nice passive income , writing is a bit more difficult because it takes lots more time and work to come up with the best articles , we aren`t Shakespeare no one said that big_smile good luck

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    terrygposted 17 years ago

    Am I the only hubber who clicks on an ad that interests me or do other hubbers do the same thing?

    1. Mark Knowles profile image59
      Mark Knowlesposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      It's just you. big_smile

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    terrygposted 17 years ago

    Thought so.

  37. stevedimatteo profile image60
    stevedimatteoposted 17 years ago

    I click on ads that interest me as well, it's just pretty rare for it to happen.

  38. mathan1234 profile image60
    mathan1234posted 17 years ago

    I don't even notice ads anymore. I never click on them.

  39. caspar profile image60
    casparposted 17 years ago

    I click on ads which interest me on other sites, but I'm wary of doing it on Hubpages, although it shouldn't be a problem as long as it's not your own hub.  I seem to have an internal alarm system preventing me from clicking ads on my own site, and I think it's transferred to Hubpages.

    Surely it would be better for everyone if when we are reading someone else's hub, we would click on an ad that interests us in the same way we would on any other site?

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      terrygposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      My point exactly..

  40. Mark Knowles profile image59
    Mark Knowlesposted 17 years ago

    I was joking..... big_smile

  41. Mark Knowles profile image59
    Mark Knowlesposted 17 years ago

    I wouldn't exactly call that bashing - I was just agreeing with a comment someone else made about you being condescending. big_smile . And don't flatter yourself - I was not looking for a comeback, merely making an observation.

    If you look through the thread, I also recommended people who want to make more money look at your hubs for layout and content. If anyone writes hubs designed to make money - it's you - and that's a compliment.

    1. Maddie Ruud profile image70
      Maddie Ruudposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, Mark.  I harbor no ill-will.  I may not spend all day on the forums like SOME people, but I do know a thing or two about taking what's said here with a grain of salt.  You, of all people,  should know it too. wink

  42. profile image0
    RFoxposted 17 years ago

    Maddie: I think it's awesome someone is doing so well here. Congrats big_smile
    It shows you know your target audience and how to sell your writing to them. You obviously work hard on your pages and have created a winning formula. It's also obvious to me that you are passionate about it.

    There are so many great writers on this site. Of course great writing and making money unfortunately do not always go hand-in-hand. That's why I love the comment boxes. I think it helps people from becoming discouraged at their adsense earnings. Knowing an article is interesting to an audience gives you the encouragement to continue.

    And as Jimmythejock wrote in another forum you never know when your article will become popular and recognized on the web. My philosophy is to just keep writing and see what happens. Hey we might all become millionaires. Lol smile

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    broalexposted 17 years ago

    Making money on hubpages is a subject that should not be discussed anymore , no one here earns a decent salary ranging from 1000 to 1500$ a month so lets just say making "pocket money" pls lol want money build a blog big_smile

    1. Misha profile image65
      Mishaposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      I'm afraid you are talking about the subject you have very little knowledge of. I assure you several people here make more than what you call  "a decent salary".

    2. Whitney05 profile image82
      Whitney05posted 17 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think you can really say what anyone is making, nor choose that people not discuss this topic again.

      You can only claim what you make. So, you cannot say what others make or don't because you just can't possible see that information. I personally applaud hubbers like Maddie and relache who make good money hubbing.


      And a decent salary will vary from one person to another. You may find that 5,000 a month is decent, whereas someone else may find 2,000 is decent. Is all a matter of opinion and destination (as one living in a higher priced area will find more money is necessary to make a decent salary).

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    broalexposted 17 years ago

    Misha even if you try to assure me that people are making more than a decent salary here on Hubpages alone , I won`t trust a word of it big_smile there are people with hundreds of hubs and traffic and don`t make more than few hundreds. And maybe I was wrong when I said not being discusses anymore this subject , but really from Hubpages alone I can hardly believe they make more money than a decent salary that depends on what you are promoting here big_smile or what links you send to your other blogs or sites. Its another discussion. And so far I do know what money making online is because my income as a freelancer is pretty good. big_smile

    PM. Whitney I agree with you , people should discuss about money making on Hubpages but stop lying a bit big_smile good luck

    1. Misha profile image65
      Mishaposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      Are you saying I am a liar? :horror:

      1. Misha profile image65
        Mishaposted 17 years agoin reply to this



        go figure...

        I am not going to waste my time on providing proofs, if you are not going to trust whatever I provide - even before you saw it.

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    broalexposted 17 years ago

    Not saying you are  a liar big_smile but pretty much like proofs when it comes to this subject. I don`t usually call people liars big_smile

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    broalexposted 17 years ago

    ok MIsha big_smile Thanks for the information smile

  47. Stacie Naczelnik profile image65
    Stacie Naczelnikposted 17 years ago

    I honestly have no idea what broalex considers a decent salary.  As Whitney pointed out, it is different for everyone.

    Anyway...I found some info from past forum discussions.  These were written by the bigwigs at HubPages, so I would consider them "proof."

    A while back, Paul Deeds wrote:



    Notice, he said "yet" about earning $100 a day.  I'm assuming that there is a good chance people have achieved that goal by now.

    Paul Edmondson wrote:



    According to Paul Edmondson, there are a few making $1K per month...from Hubpages.  Now, this might not seem like a "decent" salary to all, but I'm willing to bet these authors also make money elsewhere. 



    I'm not sure of the timelines of these discussions, as I was searching for content and forgot to look at dates.  However, Paul Edmondson has said in the last two quotations that people make $1K per month and some make more than $2K per month.  As time goes on, I expect people will continue making more.

    Edited: Okay, I went back and saw that Broalex considers $1000-1500 a month a decent salary.  Looks like people are achieving that.

    1. Stacie Naczelnik profile image65
      Stacie Naczelnikposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      I bolded the words.  He definitely says on HubPages.

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    broalexposted 17 years ago

    Very interesting , did he refer to Adsense Earnings from Hubpages alone ?! Indeed it does matter the content you publish and they better be informative and great links to other sites .. but what jimmythejock was saying in an earlier forum topic that he made no more no less than 1200$ since he is on Hubpages that means it`s about 120$ / 500 hubs+ monthly. What should people understand ? Don`t get me wrong big_smile But $ 2K is a good income , and think about it , it`s passive income , Adsense big_smile Ofcourse in depends on your location

    Stacie thank you for the post big_smile

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      RFoxposted 17 years agoin reply to this

      More hubs does not necessarily translate into more money. It's the KIND of hubs you write. Even quality writing does not ensure money. Your adsense earnings are determined by your CTR. That means you have to write hubs that will make people want to click your ads. Content also determines how much you get per click.

      As Mark stated way back in this thread; if anyone wants to earn more they should look at Maddie Raud's hubs for an example of ones that do well money wise.

      I personally love jimmythejock's hubs as most people here do but reader satisfaction doesn't determine adsense earnings.

      If you want to make money off of popularity alone then you need to sign up to a program that pays per page view not per ad click.

      http://www.freewebby.com/action-smilies/beat_deadhorse.gif

  49. vreccc profile image60
    vrecccposted 17 years ago

    Interesting thread!!!!

    As I was reading through, I was drawn to what Maddie had to say. To be fair and honest, we all want to make money. And it may even be fair to say that a large part, and perhaps even the largest, part of our motivation is to make a little money. And, let's also recognize those whose pure motivation is to write, write, write great content without any reward.

    So, where do I come in on this? I want to provide great content and make money doing it. However, could I make hubs day after day if the sole end was money? Probably not. There has to be some enjoyment in the process. To be honest, I was first drawn to Hubpages by the prospect of making money. Go look at the Hubpages homepage while you aren't logged in. Making money is part of the pitch. Hubpages is here to make money. This perhaps is the 800 pound gorilla in this conversation. However, while making my first hubs I experienced something very therapeutic. Almost what you might expect from journaling. I have tried to journal before without any success. But, something just draws me to make new hubs. I can't explain it.

    I will continue to make hubs because I want to. I enjoy doing it for its own sake. I'll enjoy the money if and when it roles in, as well.

    I hope the above doesn't sound pretentious. I'm not judging others and my own motivations aren't always lofty either. Just putting in my 2 cents.

    Cheers!!! smile

    Jonathan

  50. Stacie Naczelnik profile image65
    Stacie Naczelnikposted 17 years ago

    I think Maddie is an excellent hubber to look at as an example.  She has been successful with her earnings, creates quality hubs, and is open and helpful when she comes to the forums.

    I am not on HubPages solely for the money, but I do like to see my earnings steadily increase.  I'm also learning more everyday about what I can do to improve my earnings, which also improves earnings for HubPages.  However, I must say that I'm here more to write than to learn how to promote myself on the internet.

 
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