Great thread.. it's always good to see how others are doing and their perspectives.
I had pondered for a long time whether I should start hubbing.. from various individuals I've talked to over the past year or so that have been Hub'n I knew the money wasn't going to be the main focus for me.. directly. I make a very good living already online with some other ventures so if it was money only I'd be wasting my time.
First, I do enjoy writing.. so that's #1 reason I'm here. If I didn't, I wouldn't be where I am today. I make money as a direct result of writing..
#2.. Sort of like writing articles in general and submitting them on article submit sites etc, hubpages to me is another possible way for myself to build a body of content that highlights my expertise and/or knowledge on the topics I write on.
#3.. Networking.. my hope is the relationships I may build here (if people like me, lol.. ) will be the most valuable asset. One of the reasons I'm as successful as I am today already is only because of the relationships I've created over time.
#4.. I do have and will be developing other sites and blogs on the topics I'm writing on. And I'll be building a list, posting to my own blog.. and plan to reference my Hubpages when I'm on topic with a mail out to my list or a blog post. So it's an integrated strategy.
I agree that keyword research is at the heart of actually getting good CTR and traffic - knowing this from my other endeavors.. which I will focus on too. But the actual money I make here from Adsense, Amazon etc.. even though I'll integrate it a little, it's purely a bonus.
I have no doubt money can be made here with hard work and massive action, but.. for me anyway, it's part of a broader business strategy; I have the luxury to not worry about the revenue though because of where I am with my income already..
Just my thoughts..
Well, I'm off to think about my next hub topic.. and see if I can get my first fan with this one!
I am totally new in blogging and i don't have any idea about this whole thing. Are you really guys earning? Will you hub really generate money? Depending on what?
I went to look at your Hub about Adsense expecting another scammy "How to make money online" type Hub. I can see that you are selling a "how to" course, so you'll understand that I have to take some of your advice with a pinch of salt - but your analysis of the reality of making money with Adsense is spot-on!
I haven't done a lot of work online so I'm not complaining about my earnings, but I know people like Lissie have put a lot of effort into making a living from websites/blogs without much success - your Hub explains why.
Thanks you for stating that my Adsense statements were "spot-on". I do try to be accurate in what I state and write. I try to state the good, the bad, and the ugly so that everyone gets a real commentary rather than a sales pitch.
I am not officially selling a how to course yet. The video showing how much Christine makes online each month is not meant to brag, but to illustrate I do really know what I am talking about and can back up what I say. For the record, I am not selling a how-to course. I am planning on launching a how to course later this year. I want that course to be top shelf. I want it to be better than anything on the market.
I bought Frank Kern's recent course. I bought Stompernet's social marketing course. i bought Gauher Chaudry's PPC formula. They are all very good, but my course will be better. However, it is not for sale. I am willoing to teach fellow hubbers how to make real money online for free, with a couple of reasonable conditions. I am not currently selling anything.
And if I may toot my own horn a bit, everything that I write/share/publish/teach is spot-on, not just my comments about Adsense.
Well, I made my first cent in months on one of my Adsense accounts and I'm quite sure it's from Hubpages. Strike up the band!
As far as I remember having several Adsense accounts violates the TOS
I made .33 the first day, haven't made a penny since.
Is that confidential and top secret? Will the Adsense police come to my door?
I have a feeling my earnings here won't drive up my taxable income too much.
I only have 2 Adsense accounts. I created a new one because I couldn't remember my passwords and had trouble getting it since I didn't have the email address I'd signed up under anymore. Then I found the password to the first one. I would like to find a way to combine my two accounts if that was possible. Either that or throw away the $2 I have made
You don't have to defend yourself here - we are not Google
If I where you, I would write to their support and explain the situation, the sooner the better. If by chance you start making money with adsense, it will hurt a lot when they find out and possibly terminate both your accounts...
Thanks Misha. I'll do that. I didn't read about the multiple accounts before...my bad
Okay...all done. Letter has been sent. Hopefully, they will be pleased I was upfront about it and not cancel my account. Between the two accounts I have barely over $10 so I can't see them being that hard on me. They can take all the earnings if they want...
I make enough on HubPages to finance all sorts of nefarious underground campaigns. My latest nefarious underground campaign will be on smug smiley faces used by people who aren't actually being friendly.
If all goes well, I'll have offenders hung up by their ears whilst affected parties throw rotten fruit and snippets of poor grammar.
Yes, there are a few people making over $2K per month. I know one person that is on pace to reaching $3K this month. There may be more, be most people are private about their earnings.
We've seen people that consistently write good quality commercial content on topics that people search for generate significant traffic and revenue over time. One interesting thing is that it's very hard to predict what will be a hit. One of the people that makes over $2k with their earnings has one hub that will occasionally make over $50 per day. They have over 50 Hubs, and several make less than a dollar per day. All of their Hubs are on a commercial niche with well paying ads. I think the key is to build a portfolio of Hubs and study the metrics to find characteristics that produce good results for you and then to try and repeat it.
Thanks goodness - its not just me! Im not making that sort of money but I find some hubs do surprisingly well and some do surprisingly badly earnings-wise and good external traffic doesnt necessarily bring the $ in - though sometimes it will!
Perhaps what might be more useful in terms of statistics, is to tell people what the average hubber makes. I imagine that like most things, hubber profit follows a bell curve, so in reality, most people won't make thousands.
What the bulk of these never ending questions are really asking is what are they likely to make. Sure, you might make a couple thousand, but with one of the ostensibly top hubbers saying that she makes $20 per day from Adsense, it would seem that the average is much lower than that.
Personally, I'm not overly concerned regarding this question, but many people are, and I think fairly so. So in the interest of actually answering the question that people are really asking, are there any numbers on what your Joe Schmoe hubber can expect to make on HP?
I think this would be a waste of time because there are lots and lots of people here who are not here to make money. I suppose average earnings from one of the financial tags might be useful, but at th end of the day, there are so many other variables that it will make no difference.
For example, it may be that I make X amount of money from a particular hub and you copy the layout and subject matter exactly, but because you promote your hubs better than I or have access to some very high quality inbound links or whatever - you make twice as much as I do.
If you look through some of the old threads ( or even this one) I have been very candid with some of the things that have worked for me. It's still a learning process though
What are you making on Hubpages?
I am Making Hubpages and forum comments.
LOL - There you go. I am making friends (and enemies)
gamergirl started a thread for just that, but this is the one we all keep coming back to
And I hope you are ready for an ass-whuppin this afternoon
Thx for the reassurance, Darkside. I appreciate you letting me know. Don't want to get into trouble here.
I think that's important that people make Hubs for all sorts of reasons. We don't know how much everyone makes because content monetizes so differently. For those that are money motivated, people are successful with a good portfolio of Hubs.
This is my 3rd week being a hubber. I have published 9 hubs. And I have made about $3. Pitiful, isn't it?
Me too. I don't know how many different ads there are, but I would have thought they would have tried them all by now
My CTR and earnings are much better though so... I don't want to complain too much LOL
Well, if you see your income triple and then see it go back to where it was, knowing there's an ad combination out there that gets you triple, you start to feel like you're losing money, even if that's not technically the case. I cannot be the only person who experienced that -- but I may be the only person who's kept as close an eye on it as I did.
Do you mean Adsense itself?
Where can you do that in Analytics?
Yes, I misread his question - sorry - adsense.
https://www.google.com/adsense/support/ … p;hl=en-uk
Today makes 10 days and 6 Hub pages. All hits are about 75. Money earnings? Haven't tried to check yet. But it looks to me like what I need is Hub Pages on hot topics to bring in more hits, and maybe money. Also it seems to me that it might be better to advertise products from Amazon that have no bearing the Hub Page content or theme.
I'm sure you are waiting on baited breath to hear about my having two Adsense accounts. I contacted them and got them to cancel my 2nd account, luckily the one with the least amount of money in it ($2) So, I'm all clear as far as the is concerned...
One more obstacle less on your money making path...
I've made a little less than 25 bucks, I think. Doing okay for an amateur.
Actually, I don't know that there is any money to be made writing hubs. I write to kind of define my thoughts. And there are better ways to make money. See my hub: http://hubpages.com/hub/Buds-Market-Obs … ch-1--2008
Well, I can tell you there is money to be made from writing hubs.
And not the sort of money that requires you to already have money - as you are suggesting in your hub. I guarantee you, if I already had a million dollars, I could make money with it. Any one here who wants to make money can do it.
That's the difference between making an income and making investments in gold. You need to already have the money to make money from gold investments.
Being completely new to the whole internet publishing arena, I have no expectations on what kind of income (if any) to expect. Yeah, it would be nice to earn a little cash for doing something you enjoy, and I'll investigate some areas, but getting rich on the internet is not my main thing now. I will mention that in the first 4 weeks of HubPages I've pulled in a whopping $1.23 from Adsense. Now I'm off to the BP for a splash of petrol!
I'm stoked (is that how you spell it?). I added one URL tracker to an article and I noticed today that I have earned 10 cents! That is exciting!
So far I'm happy. I've been busy with my now 5 week old, which is why I haven't done much with HubPages lately, but I can honestly see the potential. And I do believe with a little more knowledge, work and persistence, it can be what I consider to be a replacement or supplemental income.
I do also think keyword research and target markets both play a very important role in your income with Hubpages. After all 87% of my visitors come from search engines. How do I know this? Google Analytics - it's a great tool HubPages has made available for us to use that I think anyone who's serious about earning money with hubpages needs to learn how to use (in fact, I may write a hub on how I've used it).
The layout of your hub will help you maximize the amount of money you can make with Adsense. The more capsules you use (and which ad setting you select) allows for more ads to be shown. A lot of the income I've seen so far is from AdSense, so I'm assuming I need to modify my writting to generate more eBay and Amazon sales! Although I am seeing a fair amount of clicks (and I've double, actually triple checked my PIDs - if anyone has tips, let me know!)
I also need to learn how to get more traffic I've tried social bookmarking, but that's not doing the trick, at least for me.
But from the effort I've put forth so far with the knowledge I have, I don't think I'm doing bad at all.
Reviving this thread to say thanks to Mark and Misha for having a discussion about how to maximise CTR (I still don't quite know what it is, but no matter!).
After reading their conversation, I went through all my Hubs and deleted most of the links to other websites. I also tried to add a video to each one.
Then when I was finished, they went and announced the new eBay program so I had to go back and add eBay capsules too - but that's another story.
I don't often check my Adsense earnings because they're not that exciting. Checked April's and nearly fell off my chair. I earned $26 in one month!
I know that 's pathetic by your standards, Mark and Misha, but I was thinking I'd be lucky to make one payout a year. Looks pretty certain I'm going to do better than that. Thanks again!
Ohh Marissa - you bet me I made $24.70 in Adsense in Apil :-) Given its taken 13 months to get the first payout things are looking up big time!
google loves HP - you get indexed very fast
you can use HP for backlinks to your own sites - do it properly and within the TOS http://hubpages.com/hub/HubPages-Internet-Marketing
I personally found a lot more traffic/coments / encouragement her than writing my own blog - which was kinda lonely
you dont have to stick to one topic here - money making blogs really need to be focussed
i find less pressure here than a blog - if I dont feel like posting a new hub I dont while a blog u have to keep posting regularly
Respondents to my question, "why are Hub Pages better than my own blog?" assumed I am making money on my blog, or that's what it's for. In fact, I'm not--WordPress doesn't allow most ads, so I gave up using my blog as a money-making venture long ago. I therefore post on any topic that interests me, and am all over the place. Also I don't kill myself to post every single day. In other words, what I was saying is, I get the satisfaction from my blog of having people read my work and comment on it, so that is not what I'm looking for here.
Here I am definitely looking to make money. I guess I'm going to have to give it some time. But it does seem like the hustle is intense, and that tends to make me anxious, and take some of the pleasure out of it.
Someone pointed out that one can have a blog and also post here, and in other places too...but doesn't everyone else have the same 24 hours in a day? I mean, I can barely keep up with one such project, much less multiples.
I really don't think that most hubbers feel competitive with each other or that there's an intense hustle here to make money. Everyone has different motivations for using Hubpages and I think there's a fair contingent that don't really care about the money that much. Yes, there are also quite a lot of people who are trying to make some money, but I also don't see anyone trying to outdo each other and I haven't seen any sense of competitiveness or opposition. It's pretty much just do your own thing. So where's the hustle?
I guess I don't understand what is making you anxious besides your own sense of urgency.
You've only been here three days. Give it some time. Web publishing isn't something you can pick up on a Monday and get a fat check by Friday. It takes time for you to establish a presence, for others to take note of your work and generate quality, organic backlinks to it, etc.
Concentrate on publishing high-quality, evergreen content, and using your other presences on the web (forums, blogs, communities, etc) to put the word out, without antagonizing anyone by swooping in and linkdropping or blatantly self-promoting. Soon you'll see earnings trickle in, then begin to grow exponentially.
I was just another hubber before I took a job with HubPages in their San Francisco office, and have firsthand experience with this process. At 5 months, I was making about $10 a day on AdSense, and now, about a year after I first joined, I make about $1000 a month (thanks in great part to YieldBuild, HubPages' ad-optimization service), plus a few hundred from Amazon and EBay sales.
I see a lot of requests for account cancellations by new members who, after a week with HubPages, decide they can't make any money here. You just can't know, that early. If you stick it out, there are rewards, but it's certainly not an instant gratification. I hope you'll stick around to see.
I have to add something too. I joined to earn money, not millions but to help budget life in the old age a little bit better.
Since joining I am not earning heaps but still enjoy writing some not so good some ok hubs. One of mine (no dont laugh) it actually got 1028 views at last. after more than two months
So for me thats a great bonus.
Yes money is great, but so what. It doesnt matter if you earn $1000 a day You will still spend it so $100 a month would still be great for me.
I love writing and getting comments and commenting it is part of a social friendship I think. I try to comment on those who comment on mine.
Share and share alike and help one another. Thats what life is all about.
Just get on with your writing and enjoy it.
I dont think HP is going to be my only income stream - but I can see how Maddie makes $1000/month- which is a nice part-time income lets face it!
Marcy - you say you "definitely want to make money" but then you don't like the "hustle and bustle" I can assure u that HP is way laid back compared to Internet Marketing forums. If you don't want to make money thats cool here and you can still improve your writing and enjoy the community. However if you want to make money: its hard work, its a business, and it takes time, perseverance and a bit of luck
I have met a lot of nice people on hubpages. It is like a family community. It is nice to have expanded my family in such a short time and although I will probably never meet any of them, it is inspiring to have so many dare I use the word, friends.
I don't think that anyone here really competes, in fact, I have had a number of people add comments to help me out and improve my hubs.
The money will come, there is no pressure to put up a certain amount of hubs in a certain amount of time. Just post what is interesting to you and there are probably a lot of people out there who are interested in the same thing.
I use hubtivity to keep me updated on hubs that I otherwise would not have heard of and by supporting other hubs, they in turn will support yours which leads to increased traffic.
Have fun here, this is what it is for.
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. It's true my urgency is my own stuff. But I can't just say, money isn't important, when I have to pay my bills with it. I'm not aiming for millions here, just a part-time gig. Anyhow, I'll try to hang loose. I think I like the interaction level on the Hub as opposed to WordPress.
I have a lot of ideas for Hubs. Now all I need is time. I need a 48-hour day.
Marcy, the truth is there's nowhere on the net where you can make big money fast. It's a myth. Look carefully at all those gurus promising you can make money online, and you'll find they're making money online by selling their ideas to poor schmucks who buy the dream.
Read this forum thread, all the way through, and you'll get some great advice - and a reality check - on what is possible:
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Having been a member of HubPages for six months, my average earnings is a three figure payoff. The first pay off took four months but now the three figure increment is building up fast.
I also have an account with eHow that I do not work as hard on so the earnings build slowly and have not reached the three digit payoff. eHow is easier to write for because you do not need to write a lot of text to get earnings but the Hubpage community is more interactive so I write here more.
I have written a comparison between the two sites. I believe that if Hubpages open Content for Search to writers instead of just having hubpage writers producing content that the earnings will increase.
If you check the credentials of the hubpage staffers you will see that most of them are highly educated. I suppose that their pay has to come from somewhere.
The only way to make money writing on line is to write product reviews for amazon and ebay though most of my earnings are from Adsense.
I have written 447 hubs so far. Mark Knowles reports that he has written 1025 and averages roughtly $7.00 a day. I think that Hubpages is progressive and that the earnings will increase with time.
As of now, I do not let my articles go domant without optimizing that seem to jolt any recessive hubpages.
by The Donkey 3 years ago
I'm new to HubPages, so give me a break if this is a terrible question. I nearly have 40 followers, and I have posted 15 hubs in 5-6 weeks. When do you start making the big bucks?
by Baraccuza 21 months ago
Many people writing different things. But I and I'm sure that many other people would like to know the potential of hubpages. Thanks for answers.
by Dorn 8 years ago
How long does it take before I am making money with Hubpages?I know I have only been writing for four days but I have almost nine hubs that are of great quality for everyone. please help me get an idea of how long it will take.
by Margaret Minnicks 2 years ago
What are your best tips for making money on HubPages?
by sarahsherlock 8 years ago
I'm just interested really. I have joined hubpages as a forum to publish my writing and I have little or no interest in making money at the moment. This might change once I better understand Adsense, SEO etc but I'd still want to right about what interests me rather than boosting a keyword. Is...
by Tyler Norwood 8 years ago
I have only been a member of HubPages for 5 weeks, and already I have made close to $1,000. I know that this is not exceptional for some Hubbers, except I only have 13 hubs, I am not an internet marketing guru, and my hubs are not that exceptional or keyword optimized. In fact, the only...
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