??? True writers or money makers
Well, we got a lot a peeps wot iz, "Tring to be perfect for God, and win over souls!"
I assume that means "true writers" to you, but is pretty annoying to the rest of us.
Plenty of us CAN prove income made on here, we just WON'T....we want to keep our successful hubs and level of success private so no one will swoop in and try to steal out niche
. That said, I do agree that it has to be fun, life is too short to do work you don't like."as long as you can fill part of a page" doesn't really fly on HubPages, and if you think it's going to you're likely to find your Hubs rated down and little or no earnings. If that's your idea of "fun" you're free to have your fun and make no money.
I enjoy writing on a deeper level than "fun". I don't count myself among those "high-minded, literary" types Marissa mentioned; but I'm not among the "all-business-all-the-time" crowd either. Whatever level of enjoyment I get from my hobby-writing on here, I'm also enjoying some pretty decent earnings (comparable to what a more business-minded person has reported about his/her own earnings).
I don't need to know what anyone is or isn't earning. I know what I'm earning (just by trying to come up with Hubs that have some quality to them), and I know what I could do to earn more. It's been fairly effortless, because writing comes easily to me. Some of my Hubs are, in my opinion, "losers"; but a person's going to have some "losers" after writing a few hundred Hubs.
Which advertisers are willing to bid for which space is about a lot more than just having space on a page that isn't blank. What the "money is about" is a lot more than filling part of page. If someone wants to half-fill a page with junk, why not start a blog and not earn money from that instead?
(HubPages isn't "about" half-baked/half-filled pages.
I, personally, don't care who writes what half-filled pages they write, or who gets them reported as "low quality" because of it. My only point (after close to three years on here) is that if someone wants to write for enjoyment (but really write) they can earn. (It's funny retiring was brought up above. I half joke to people that if HubPages and Google stay in business long enough, at the rate I've been going my earnings may end up being my main retirement income. Based on what people who live on Social Security get, if things go as they seem they could, I'd be getting a whole lot more from my online, hobby, writing here than I would from the government, and I"m not exaggerating.
)I make a living from my cut of the advertising funds. It is no fun most of the time. It is work, it took me some time to learn how to do it, and you are at the mercy of the vagaries of affiliate providers and google's search engine algorithm. The OPs insulting opening question aside - there are more than 2 reasons to write here and not all of them are to do with making money directly.
Lots of people just vent, or shout about how much they love god, or write poetry, or tell stories, or write nonsense, or post an on-line CV, or show their freelance photography work, or complain about their inability to hold down a relationship, or what a rotten mother they were, or whatever.
The only reason these people are able to so is because of those of us who actively work at creating income. Which means hubpages make money which means they are still here, which means the site is available to the god botherers, the emotionally disturbed and any number of other people (over 18).
So - the way I look at it - the "money makers" support the "true writers,"...................
As one of those dedicated to writing nonsense, may I just say, "Thanks."
I made almost no money in my first seven days.
Definitely both, i am a writer, and i LOOOOVE to write, and i dont even have the moneymaker set up
Hi there.
I strongly agree for both! Take myself for an example. I write because I truly love to write but at the same time, I also hope to get some side income from it.
I am planning to write more everyday and maybe in the future, to start my own book. Well it might just be a big dream for a small guy but hey, I believe in what I dream!
I'm here for the writing, I'm lousy at selling
I couldn't agree with you more about the men thing lol. Also I enjoy writing on Hubs and it is an excellent place to start writing my book on the paranormal. Page by page before I send it off to the publishing house. That can go for anyone. That way people flat out tell you what they think page by page. It has been a wonderful asset for me to write my pages for my book on Hub pages one by one. It's a good way to organize all the material and go back over it etc..
Practice, practice makes for good writing and 'writers', right?! (smile)
I am here for both..
Nothing constitutes a false writer - some writers are just born to write - its natural - and others want to - so , they do , there really isn't any falsness to any writing , well, unless the writer is like , lying or something , but I think they call that fiction
- china manposted 12 years ago
0 I imagine she meant "true writers" as in "creative writers" or "literary writers" that sort of thing. I'm fairly confident she didnt' mean it as a slam on "copy writers" etc. Might be wrong though. And I do love a good fight.
I, too, am curious about the distinction between "true writers," "false writers" and whatever other categories we might divide ourselves into. Me, I'm a true writer...I truly write. I also truly write for money, because otherwise I would truly be evicted and end up in a cardboard box, which has very limited writing space and next to no publication potential.
That said...if you're talking about creative writers or some variation thereof...yep, I used to be one of those. Creative writing was once my sole writing outlet, except poetry if you want to put that separate. I published a few poems and got a few dollars off of those, but THAT was truly a lost cause. I started writing reviews and informational articles because I needed money, I was 15 (not on this site...though yes, I wasn't allowed to be on those others under 18 either) and couldn't find substantial enough jobs to move to a town I could afford. It took a couple of years to be able to move and start living in an apartment instead of any bit of floor or grass I could find, but it was enough to show me that writing could be worth something to me. Then I forgot it and went to work for Wal-Mart after I turned 18. Three years ago I remembered, and am now writing full-time. I love writing good, informational articles as much as I love writing good, informational reviews. Except for two humor pieces I was recently inspired to write (thank you bizarre question askers in the late night hours!) they are all informational, and they all make money.
Maybe that's enough information to answer whether I'm a true writer or not, by your definition?I dunno - look around - see what ya think - I, for enjoy it here at hub pages for the friendships of some wonderful people and , yes, on occassion I do like to write , I get a little check from my little 19 or so hubs I have written so - I guess I get the best of both worlds here - but , more friends than money and for me , I would rather have that
but.... that's just meI agree the term 'true writers' is debatable: those who write commercial hubs want to be considered as much of writers as those who write creative, non commercial ones. The snobbery (as seen from the comments throughout this thread) can be felt from both sides too, however thinly veiled. The good part is, HP has space for all kinds of writers...and you will find equally varied readership too. Just depends on your reasons for being here. And how financially dependent you are on your writing.
I do however feel that online writing in general is limited for creative writing - so you might want to try other avenues too. Not only are there other sites purely meant for it but there are offline options too like magazines, journals, newspapers or simply writing your own book!- sord87posted 12 years ago0
- DoorMattnomoreposted 12 years ago0
Im mostly hear to read.
^ Agreed
No idea what a 'true writer' is. For me, as long as somebody has the ability to shape language and stir the emotions, they are a writer. To be a successful sales writer, for example, you have to be able to do this or you won't sell a single thing.
Of course, this is only my opinion and everybody has their own take - writing is a very broad definition. Sales writers, creative writers, academic writers, technical writers, poets, ghost writers...the list goes on.
Just the same as when somebody is a constructor - are they a bricklayer, carpenter, plumber, electrician or plasterer? All of these are talented tradespeople, and none better than the other
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