We don’t write articles. We write web pages.

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   paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

   Agree or disagree?

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      kschangposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Disagree.
      
      Hubpages is a content farm, albeit a heavily vetted one.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      We write articles in the old-fashioned sense of the word. When I write a Hub, I compare it to a feature article in a print magazine - informative text, photos, advertising, all in an attractive layout.
      
      The internet definition of an article is becoming something quite different, thanks to the article directories. There, an article is plain text, light on information and with little regard for good writing.  We don't write that kind of article!

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   rebekahELLEposted 12 years ago

   I write articles that appear on web pages.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      A pleasing package works...

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      Midnight Oilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed -  I write articles that appear on web pages too...

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         Sophia Angeliqueposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Me, 2.

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   cmahanposted 12 years ago

   We write content articles that appear on hubpages webpages that are within the website.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      

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   Pcunixposted 12 years ago

   Most write articles. At another site, I write raw HTML web pages.

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   2uesdayposted 12 years ago

   If you do not write enough words in your hubs are they then called  particles?

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      fastfretaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not interested in the subject, but I just had to weigh in on this comment. "If you do not write enough words in your hubs are they then called  particles?" Hahahaha, LOL! Too cute!

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      David 470posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      LMAO

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      BenjaminBposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      LOL

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      Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      2uesday,  only some of them.   A lot of others ones would be better named,  "barnacles".  Some, even:   "furuncles".

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   kimberlyslyricsposted 12 years ago

   I believe we write both
   I do not and never will believe this is publishing
   I see a range from product ads to selling pages to short story, community support and a really beautiful range of poetry.
   I my 2 years I find the seldom are mixed by the same author/persona, me included
   If I enjoy the author I would probably read all the work, but I at least tend to enjoy the authors who do share the same style of writing here.  ie; stories, humour, fiction etc and then brutally true life stuff ha
   
   Little while ago I was bluntly told in a forum to hush up as I should be grateful HP keeps me here as I make them no money having no ad sense account and this is a privilege for me to be able to be a member
   
   Well there is a sad part and good part to her appreciated 8 month seniority hubbing here knowing I think a lot about me
   
   I do have many ad sense accounts, I disabled them,  reasons not important and have them elsewhere.  After 25 years working in global marketing/advertising, I can make 6 figures tomorrow- I know how to sell, the reason I do not is irrelevant,
   
   The good part of this for me stems from not being a writer.  You just can't be when your last form of any kind of education was 13 years old.  I do not have the knowledge.  I consider myself still more as a messenger but I just love to write.
   
   Every single person, regardless of their set up or content, deserve to be here
   
   call it a web page
   an ad
   product review
   poem
   or porn
   it's yours, embrace it and know from this kind of community you will be read
   
   ok sorry a little sensitive right now, but please don't doubt and be proud in what you call it
   
   [should really call it smokin hot lyric]
   
   night princes and princesses of HubVille
   
   kimberly

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm somewhat, kind-of-tangled-up agree with you…

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      orelanicposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Just because you left school at 13 makes little difference, you can be a writer and you have a vast knowledge that comes from life, you just can't learn that in school it takes dedication and lots of time

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   IzzyMposted 12 years ago

   Actually, although I thought we were writing articles, I do believe we are writing web pages too.
   if someone searches for (for example) How to Find Fresh Water after the Atomic Bomb Decimated the World. There is sure to be a hub about it, that will rank higher than someone who created a website full of practical advice but didn't happen to mention the words "How to Find Fresh Water after the Atomic Bomb Decimated the World" in his url.

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes!
      
      Writing an article vs. creating a webpage.
      
      One must do both.

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         IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Oh good! Sorted.

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   Mikeydoesposted 12 years ago

   agree

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      paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Mikeydoes! You are a celebrity! That crap resolved?

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         Mikeydoesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         What crap resolved?

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   paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

   From what I have seen, you have friends.

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    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    I'll give link.
    
    just minute.

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       Mikeydoesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       lol I found it, no need.

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    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    Here it is:
    
    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/68172

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       kimberlyslyricsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       no, that's just a webmikey, totally common here

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    Mikeydoesposted 12 years ago

    I would never punch anyone in the face! Never have

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       skyfireposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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       paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       What!? You never went to high school?

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    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    We don’t write articles. We write web pages.

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    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    That is the topic here.

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       Mikeydoesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yeah, what you going off topic for!!!!!!
       
       I would have never known that even went down lol.
       
       I agree that they are webpages, because that is what I use to describe it. That is when I explain Hubpages to my friends and family.

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    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    Write an article, so it is.
    
    Write a webpage, so it presents.

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       kimberlyslyricsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            

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    multimasteryposted 12 years ago

    HubPages is not an article directory.  Although many visitors may be confused about this fact, which is why some of them innocently copy & paste our content on their sites. 
    
    With an article directory this wouldn't be a problem as it is customary.
    
    But with HubPages is a problem and we get a warning message that our content has been duplicated!
    
    This goes to prove that every page of content that we produce here is considered a webpage, not a mere article. 
    
    True enough, some people fall short in creating their webpage contributions - but they are still webpages for HubPages.com.
    
    The major difference about this site as compared to a standard website is that we "the members" are the mass content producers.

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    Jule Romansposted 12 years ago

    IMHO-
    We are in the process of elevating the concept of  the article to an informative, content-rich, relatively short, tightly focused piece of writing  produced for a carefully targeted audience. Some of us may target certain consumers. Others may target interested readers+advertisers. Still others may target literary, philosophical, or emotional, or expressive audiences.  It's really  not so different from writing for magazines, sales-oriented mini-mags, literary magazines, or newsletters. Although not as competitive or edited as  print articles, our articles are a kind of parallel to those.
    
    We're doing all this through the use of a fairly open-access website that supports  and moderates our efforts.
    
    I hope that the "article directories" will eventually be the ones to change their descriptive term,  and that we will keep the word article for ourselves.

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       kimberlyslyricsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       ? sorry you lost me.  Do you mean you believe the word article should be removed?  Why does it matter what many different contents are called.  I don't suspect it will effect your CAREFULLY TARGETED skew in any media especially one like here whee the attraction is the freedom of talent and supportive range in content.  But that just could be me.
       
       Call your page what feels right to you, and in that pride know it also is irrelevant to anyone else for critique
       
       cheers

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          Jule Romansposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I'm only trying to say that the word "article" has taken on a negative connotation because of spammy backlinking article directories.  I feel like our writings are like small magazine articles- whether they be literary or money oriented.
          
          Regarding the whole carefully targeted thing- I'm saying that we work just as hard at research and preparation as we might in the print world, only there are more opportunities here.  The judgement comes not from editors but from our  audience and community rules.

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             Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             The judgement comes not from editors but from our  audience and community rules.
             
             You are so right. And the audience (defined by who clicks on what) dictates the worth of a writing.
             
             Yours is a stellar view. You've got it, exactly.
             
             I already know that if I want to write crap text and do that, so long as I have some profitable key words and a hot-topic focus and then promote my junk all over the Internet, I'll have some monetary return.
             
             So that brings us to what's a web page? A piece of useful information, or a vehicle for doing nothing but earning pennies as a result of targeting a market that clicks?
             
             Such a complex topic.
             
             What the "world" now accepts as writing is diminished by its ability to be critical. I just hope good writers don't dumb themselves down for the sake of a penny.

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                Jule Romansposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                I agree,  complex topic.  Tell me what you think of this...
                
                I've been thinking about how, a long time ago, books had publishing information scattered all over. Then at some point, they developed title pages with organized publication information on the back.  Somewhere in that process the act of writing became more organized, standard, and somewhat competitive.  But there were still people banging things out on electric typewriters, photocopying them, and distributing them all over the place.And there were  junk mail, porn, tabloid newspapers, and penny dreadfuls.    Some writers gained or lost credibility based on their ability to participate in the more respected  realms of publishing. Some writers made money based on their willingness to exploit markets.
                
                Isn't internet writing making a similar kind of "growing up" as print publishing did long ago?  The question is not how low some people will sink- it's where do we want to float.
                
                I don't know where that fits in with the overall lack of focus and intellectual laziness that seems to be running rampant lately, though. I agre with you that  it is disturbing.

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                   Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   A key change in the days of publishing then as opposed to now is that writers wrote and then relied on publishers to edit, produce, and market their works, whereas now, on the Internet (for the most part), the author is the editor, publisher, and also the marketer. That wearing of many hats spreads good writing thin.
                   
                   I do think that Internet writing is in a growing stage. But, you know, growth depends on nurturing. We feed our kids good food to make them strong and healthy, but the Internet the way it is today, without the intervention of good schooling and parenting, invites the consumption and validation of junk.
                   
                   I very much like what you had to say about floating or sinking. For now, I think most will sink, and I doubt the future of many floating; the lessons young people are growing up with in terms of writing and expression and responsibility are lacking. They are too likely to take junk as a model. Sadly, that's my view and I hope I'm wrong.

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                      Jule Romansposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                      I know, it is a shame. I'm a one-woman army against  the trend, though. I find that my students are actually BEGGING to be challenged. They are bored as heck.  They crave a challenge.

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    BenjaminBposted 12 years ago

    If we only wrote articles then we would not have the options to add all of the different capsules.That's why they call them Hubs not articles.

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    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    It appears that I’m the only person to have followed http://hubpages.com/profile/Mikeydoes in the last 16 hours. Can’t we do better than that?

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    paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

    Part of my webpage philosophy is to always add a news capsule.

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       BenjaminBposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Absolutely and make sure you put your main keyword news or in the news as the title of news feed and as a tag. Many things that come through to the news feed come from sources with far less clout in the search engines,thus you may outrank them for that search and get a little extra traffic from their efforts.

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    kimberlyslyricsposted 12 years ago

    OK I did.  But I blackened my own eye

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    barryrutherfordposted 12 years ago

    I push keys on a qwerty keyboard and Mouse in order to make sense of the world

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       paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Good luck with that...

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    sunforgedposted 12 years ago

    I think a HubPage is more akin to a webpage then an article.
    
    I see articles offline and on as being only text based. Offline "articles" may have additional photos, design and such added, but that is done by editorial and art staff. The author just submits a text file, as you would in an article directory or ezine.
    
    The multimedia facet of a hubpage and the suggested scope presented by the flagship program, contests and such make me think Hub aims to be a one page mini site (webpage) and I find that the hubs that follow that model perform better then those that try to be closer to just an "article"
    
    I, personally, tend to  write 5-10 hubs in a series and interlink appropriately so is very much more like a website with multiple pages then a simple article
    
    I always use the word article when describing a hub though.

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       Aya Katzposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Here at Hubpages, each Hubber is considered a publisher, so we play the role of the editorial and art staff as well as the writer. (And some hubbers even commission others to write for them.)
       
       So... having to arrange photos and layout design does not take away from a hub being an article. It just takes away from the idea that we are only authors.
       
       This is also the reason our earnings are not taxed as passive income, as we are seen as the ones who do the work of publishing and keeping things published.

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          Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          That's how I see it, too.

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          sunforgedposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          agree that hub creators are more akin to Publishers then "just" Authors - but still think they are publishing something more similar to a page then an  article.
          
          In my limited experience in print publishing - as art or editorial staff we modified "pages" - the writers submitted articles in text format, once we integrated ads, photos and art it was no longer an article.
          
          I dont think publishers write articles, they work a few steps up the ladder or at least where a few more hats.
          
          As Hub Publishers, we are responsible for writing articles and formatting that content to our layouts, acquiring fitting media , doing market research and promotion and distribution of your content and in some cases selecting advertising partners .. seems bigger than 'article" to me

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             Aya Katzposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             The job of publishing on HP is bigger than the job of the author, but the product is like a published article in a magazine, as opposed to the manuscript for the article pre-publication.
             
             I publish books on CreateSpace. The author (myself or some other author) submits a manuscript. Once the manuscript is published it looks more like a book. The manuscript of an article is no more the article the consumer reads than is the manuscript of a book.

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       rebekahELLEposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       this is true, and it's always encouraged here to write 'hubs' that can be grouped and linked together.

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    kimberlyslyricsposted 12 years ago

    why are we so technical when at the end of the day they are electronic pages of information?  Hubpages has given us the freedom to call it what we wish.  I can't help but feel that's pretty cool as it is.

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    thisisoliposted 12 years ago

    We write articles, writing webpages requires you to actually create the page layout, all that is automated by Hubpages.

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       paradigmsearchposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       What? Agreed. Lets chat.

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