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We just recently released a small update to the site. There are lots of little things, but the two changes that you'll probably notice are:
1. Tag suggestions -- we now have the ability to analyze the text of your hub, and can suggest tags that may be appropriate. Look for this on your hubs at the bottom of the tag box.
2. Ad Zones - possible ad zones will be displayed as a green box on unpublished hubs. As soon as a hub is published some or all of the green boxes will be replaced with advertisements. This does a couple of good things, first unpublished hubs will load and render a bit faster, and second you won't see the poorly matched ads that result from google not being able to access and analyze the unpublished hub.
We hope to open up one more big feature update later this week -- we're just finishing up a little more testing on it. Stay tuned!
As with any release, please let us know right away if you notice any new problems using the site.
Edit: Also Larry posted some interesting thoughts to our blog today, Is a Blog Enough? No it isn't according to Larry. Be sure to check it out.
I have tried tag suggessions and it works pretty well.
I have enough tags in my hub and want to add suggested ones. If it exceeds 40 what will be the reaction of google? Should I keep older ones or remove them? All of the older ones or some of them?
Are you saying that tags equal KEYWORDS exactly to the spiders in Google?
Really? I must be getting a bit dense; I thought it was more *inner circle* for the hubbers than that.
I did NOT realize that TAG = SE KEYWORD
Are you certain of this?
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Nice changes, thanks guys!
Paul, how do you determine which tags are appropriate? Are you using Tecnorati, Yahoo, etc.? Or is it just confined to the current set of Hubpages tags? Or even just to keyword density of the text itself?
We're looking at the text of the hub itself and calculating related keywords, much the same way google would to match relevant ads to your content. Hopefully it will help people choose "better" tags. We've also got some other ideas on what we can do with the data, consider this the first installment ...
Great update! I have tried it and it gave me some good tags which I hadn´t "seen". Of course people still have to choose right because some of the suggestions may not be good tags after all .
These are EXCELLENT Updates and Additions. We all were looking forward to these kind of Features. These are surely going to be beneficial in the Long Run. We eagerly await the Next Installments...
Thank you HP !
Tags suggestion is a very useful tool. I found it helpful in improving traffic. Very useful to lazy people like me.
Awsome new feature. I just gave it a try earlier works perfectelly.
I just saw the suggested tags on my hubs and have a few questions:
1.Are these tags going to be based on what people search about, on the topic of the hubs or just a suggestion based on the hub's text?
2.Secondly, I use google trends to find out the most searched keywords on a topic but the tags suggested here are somewhat different so are they going to be search friendly?
3.On some hubs I saw a lot of suggestions about related tags so how do we figure out how many tags are appropriate so that there isn't a lot of keyword stuffing?
They are based on the text of the hub.
Our goal with suggested tags is to improve the categorization and organization of hubs within HubPages. I think improving the navigation experience for HubPages users may, as a side benefit, help us with search engines but that is yet to be seen. Using google trends to help choose your tags seems reasonable as well, just make sure they are related to your hub.
I'm not quite sure what you mean about related tags, but we don't add any tags to your hub for you, we just suggest some that you might want to consider. The appropriate number of tags depends on the length and the subject of a hub. For an average length hub, somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-30 tags seems reasonable to me.
Suggested Tags is a easy way to add more tags without searching and selecting..
This way Our Hubs will get more traffics..
Thanks everyone who created this...
Thanks for the updates. I'm excited about the tag suggestions.
I like both additional features - very helpful. Thanks!
Do you mean that you've seen 200+ visits in traffic after re-tagging a Hub?
I also noticed a traffic increase from hubpages after re-tagging all my hubs.
Just rushing off to retag my hubs - shouldn't take me long as I only have a few, and the new tool will be a great help!
That's great, but keep in mind that if you went and viewed each of your hubs to update the tags, that would account for 45 more views right there .
The tag suggestions is a great add-on. I tried it just now. Before, I always loathed having to come up with my own by scanning the articles.
Here is the new linky-link that we added for the Tag suggestions:
Here is what the suggestions look like after clicking:
These were suggested for my Mullets HubMob Hub and I added nearly all of them. I love this new feature...our engineers are like the bomb and stuff.
I have a question-- it seems like every time I return to a hub.. there are more suggestions. I know at one time I got flagged for having too many tags on a hub. Will this happen again with all these multiple suggestions being added?
I certainly could use this new feature, now I will be able to add more tags to my hubs, because I think originally I did not have enough tags, so this will be very helpful.
I also noticed that the tags are becoming more of a phrase instead of just one word.
Which makes sense, because most searches are done using a long tail phrase.
Already started using it, no major changes in traffic yet contrary to some users feedback.
Hubpages just keeps getting better and better.
Kudos to the people on the top!
Looks like this feature is already paying off...literally.
I've just spent a pleasant hour going through all my hubs trying the suggestions. It's interesting to see what is offered. It tells me quite a bit about search algorithms. Or at least I think it does!
Another great HubPages feature! I don't know anything about tags and keywords, so I appreciate the help very much. It is not one of my major goals to become a computer geek.
it is good that you guys are not using technortai tags as they have a bug itself, Now I have a important question.
How is TAGS used and placed in terms of SEO, what tags are given to h1,h2,h3?? or are they mention in meta-tags /meta-descriptions??
Is there tags mention or association with the summary of any hub??
please admin or ppl incharge if you can answer these queries I think i shall be able to better use the TAGS of hubs.
Adrian - if you mean what gravity do the h1 h2 h3 html font sizes have to do with SE rankings, then the answer is yes, the good old H1 tag is still loved by all the SE, Even Google.
And it is Great to know that because MOST html editors don't even provide that function anymore!!! You have to put them in manually if you want them there.
I like the new tag thing, it really is helpful. Sometimes after I finally finish a Hub I am so brain dead I can't think of a good set of tags to use, so maybe now I will get the words I really meant to put the first time!
I got a warning saying I had a lot of tags and was I sure they were all relevant, my understanding is that it is good practice to make sure your tags are reflected in the content of your hub (or website), in other words you are not using a tag that is not relevant and that you are actually discussing the subject the tag refers to.
Search engines check for this, I think, and if you are abusing the use of your tags (or keywords) you will probably be penalized in terms of ranking. So a good practice is to decide on the keywords you want to use to reflect your content and then try and write them into your text, easier said than done but if you can manage it you will achieve the relevancy search engines look for.
I ended up taking out some tags that I didn't think would be used when searching for my subject to reduce the count (even though they were included in my text) and redressed the balance because I didn't like the warnings, but at the end of the day I viewed it as a warning to check and I was pretty confident all my tags were relevant and on that basis I thought I would have been OK had I left all of them in.
Be interested to know if all my assumptions are correct or not and whether I would have been penalized had I not removed some tags ???.
More questions than answers I am afraid.
The warning is just that--a warning. Depending on how much content you have on your page, and the relevancy of those tags to the content, it is sometimes fine to ignore that warning. I've got it on some of my own hubs, in fact. You were right in thinking that the longer and more comprehensive the content, the more tags are justified. There's no hard-and-fast rule, however, so just use your best judgement.
I have been using many or all the tags suggested by the new HubPages feature because I'm assuming HubPages knows more than I do about it (which is easy because I know almost nothing about tags and keywords.) But now I'm wondering if I'm using too many tags. The tags I started with came almost exclusively directly from my text. Some of the suggested tags do not seem to make sense to me, but, again, I don't have enough knowledge about the subject to be sure. If the tags I use seem to make sense, how would I know how many is too many?
Please don't assume that the tag suggester knows better than you do. It's a computer algorithm that is bound to make silly suggestions sometimes. The purpose of the tag suggester is to help you generate ideas, but ultimately it is up to you to choose relevant tags that make sense for your hub. Good luck!
Can't tell you about quantity, but I only use the tags that make sense. And I even tweak some of those a bit.
Of course, mine may just be coming out more nonsensical than yours. Different tags for different Hubs.
On many of my hubs the new HubPages "Suggested Tags" feature offers this tag as a suggestion: f. torpey
I assume this is my middle initial and last name. Who would search for that?
Also, who would search for this tag, "instance" -- which is offered as a suggestion on one of my hubs?
The suggested tags have taught me a lot.
I've leraned so much about marketing on these forums.
I am a novice and trying to
"catch- up" on all the internet has to offer!
Thanks for the reply, I know where I stand with the warnings now and that is a great help.
Just for information I use the google adwords website to see who is typing what into search engines https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal, its free if you have a google account which you can also get free. All you do is type in the keyword or phrase and google gives you a list of suggestions and tells you how many people are typing those words or phrases into the search engines. Quite handy if you are looking for some tag suggestions on your subject matter.
I think the web address is
https://adwords.google.com/select/Keywo … aultView=2
Yes you are correct, sorry about that must have missed a bit off when I copied the url.
https://adwords.google.com/select/Keywo … aultView=2
I should also have mentioned when you get a suggestion from hubpages for a tag (keyword) you could use the keyword tool to see how many people put that keyword or phrase into google and then decide if you would like to use it.
Thanks for correcting my error.
Excellent updates and very helpful ones too. No problem to report.
Thanks, Fawntia for clarifying the suggested tags. I've been going through my hubs to eliminate the ones that make little or no sense.
Previously I was under the impression that tag suggestion was the result of some calculation based on the requirements of the search engines. I was toying with the idea of deleting all my tags and replacing them with the suggested ones. Then I noticed that the suggested tags were identical to the tags that I had initially inserted, but with the addition of an appropriate preposition or conjunction. The way I understand it now, is that tags should to an extent follow the "tail word" formula, for which reason should stand in small groups.
I think the new tag suggestions are helpful and can bring more traffic to are site.
I love this new feature! However I added more tags based only on the new suggestions from hub and also got the message that I have a large number of tags and am I sure they're relevant? I was, so i left them - so far so good!
Now if i could just figure out what words or phrases in my articles trigger those "hot Barzilian women!" or other links to porn-like sites? Maybe my 'hot' chili recipe and so forth?
Tag suggestion tool picks words from anchor text and capsule headings at times, is it ok to accept and add them?
Thanks so much for the addition Paul, although not all of the suggested tags are relevant, it is still a very good tool.
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