Subdomain Move Update

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  1. paradigmsearch profile image89
    paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

    Well, it’s been a couple days.

    My traffic has done a major crash and burn.

    My formerly decent-traffic hubs appear totally gone from google and all the stolen copies are now showing on the first page. One possible reason for this is that google now thinks the now-older stolen copies are the originals and that my now-newer originals are now considered stolen copies. Who knows?

    Looks like that changing-the-URL thing really can be fatal when there are stolen copies out there that will then immediately assume seniority.

    Oh well… Time will tell. Let’s hope to hell I’m wrong.

  2. Patty Inglish, MS profile image94
    Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years ago

    Progress: my traffic dipped a little Friday, but today it is rising, earnigns are rising, and my Hubs that used to appear regularly in my own Top 30 are back in the higher ratings. I think it's good news.

    1. Ms Dee profile image87
      Ms Deeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Good to hear your report, Patty--thanks!

  3. kmackey32 profile image68
    kmackey32posted 8 years ago

    I just switched over...

  4. andromida profile image58
    andromidaposted 8 years ago

    Do you think that web redirects of our old urls may have any negative impacts ?

  5. theherbivorehippi profile image75
    theherbivorehippiposted 8 years ago

    wow if I look at my page views and at all those effing blue arrows one more time I might smash my computer. I am so livid right now. I knew I should have waited to do this until the last minute, totally screwing my Adsense earnings for the month. I haven't seen crap earnings like this since I started on Hubpages and only had five hubs. This is absolutely ridiculous.

    Sorry...there is no trying to stay positive anymore. It has been three days and I'm on a steady decline. My top earning hub that never brings in LESS than a minimum of few dollars a day hasn't made one penny since I switched. This NEVER happens and I really don't think it's a freak thing. If things turn around I will be grateful, happy and excited but right now, I am not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. So kicking myself for not waiting until after the end of the month. sad Feeling very disappointed right now.

    1. kmackey32 profile image68
      kmackey32posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I hope I didnt make the wrong choice but I wasnt doing well in the last few months anyhow...

      1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
        theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        nobody has a choice. If you didn't do it now...Hubpages will do it for you. I think they said everyone has a month to transition?....I believe that's what I read. See, I've been doing very well...that is, until now. I personally would have liked to have been given an option to not change but..no point dwelling on what I would like I guess.

    2. IzzyM profile image88
      IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hey relax - they will return, better than ever. This is the weekend when things are normally slow (including Google's indexing, it seems), wait till you see, Monday will see the upturn!

      Not that I know what I am talking about, of course.

      I can only say that my traffic is almost up 100% since the change, because for some unknown reason they indexed my most popular hubs first and traffic has gone through the roof on them.

      So far as I can see most of the beta testers reported massive rises once their hubs were re-indexed, and I'm sure it'll be the same for you smile

      1. Aficionada profile image82
        Aficionadaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        This is so encouraging!  Keep reminding us.  Pleeaasseeee.

        I'm sort of in the same boat as THVH, EF and pds.  Reeeealllly hoping that through the roof means through the roof and that it will happen after the weekend. 'cause it sure ain't happening yet.

        I'm about ready to try that crafts kid's pinging suggestion.

        1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
          theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I've been pinging since Wednesday night...it's not showing me any love. Hope you have better luck!

      2. theherbivorehippi profile image75
        theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        hmmmm we shall see. My traffic is never slow like this on the weekend. I just feel frustrated because I wasn't excited about this move to begin with. I hope you're right. I haven't had any new hubs indexed even since Thursday. It's just at a standstill and I didn't think it was possible to see that many blue arrows on my stats. They really should put a limit on these things so it's not so overwhelming. Blue is no longer one of my favorite colors hmm Thanks for the positive words. smile

      3. leahlefler profile image97
        leahleflerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I certainly hope so - my traffic is lower than it has ever been, even post-Panda. Crash and burn!

        1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
          theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          sad

  6. CASE1WORKER profile image69
    CASE1WORKERposted 8 years ago

    I am hoping you are right. My most popular hub has been re indexed on the first wave. The number of views it has today ( a weekend) is about 10 per cent more than the max view on the preceeding weeks so maybe it will all come good.

    To some extent I wish I could go on holiday early as I plan to be without a computer for a week!

  7. Nell Rose profile image90
    Nell Roseposted 8 years ago

    I have never pinged before so I went to have a go, not knowing how to do it. But I figured it out. One major problem came up. the hub that I tried pinging says its offline. When I checked the url at the bottom of the hub, it still says the old pre new domain. surely each hub should have changed urls? or am I missing something? Anybody got any idea?

    1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
      theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      How are you doing it? I just open a hub, copy the url and then paste in the appropriate spot on the ping service page. (There may be an easier way but this is how I've always done it so....) Which service are you using? I use Pingoat and Ping-O-Matic primarily. Have you tried them? Are you copying the URL off the hub?

      1. Nell Rose profile image90
        Nell Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Hiya, yes I copied it from the hub, but the trouble is that it still comes up as the old url. So when I pinged, it said it wasn't online. when I actually look for it on google I find its on the new url. confusing! so, is there two of every hub out there, or just one acting strangely? any ideas?

        1. Gordon Hamilton profile image96
          Gordon Hamiltonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          This is strange. I used Pingomatic less than half an hour ago and it was my new URL that was copied. What service are you using?

          1. Nell Rose profile image90
            Nell Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            selfseo, is the ping site, but its just my urls that are confusing me, on the hub at the bottom, its shows the old url, and if I key it into google then its the new one! do we have to key in all our hubs to get the new url to ping? I can't understand why the hub url at the bottom hasn't changed, thanks

            1. Gordon Hamilton profile image96
              Gordon Hamiltonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              I've never heard of selfseo but for your URL, you should simply highlight it and copy it from the toolbar of your browser, then paste it in to the relevant part of the pinging site. This should clearly show your new URL. Try pingomatic with the instructions below and see how you go. If you still have problems, e-mail me through Hub Pages and I'll try to help you further - to avoid clogging up the forum! smile

              1. Nell Rose profile image90
                Nell Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks for your help, I will go and give it a try

                1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
                  theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Sorry I didn't get back here fast...glad someone else could help as well!

                  1. Nell Rose profile image90
                    Nell Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Hiya, its okay, thanks I am pinging away now! it must have been a bad ping site

    2. Gordon Hamilton profile image96
      Gordon Hamiltonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I use only Pingomatic these days. I have tried several.

      http://pingomatic.com/

      When it asks for blog name, type in the name of your Hub. Blog home page is the URL of your Hub. Ignore the Rss for Hubs.

      Next down you will be asked which services you want to ping. Next to where it says, "Common Services" click on Check All. Leave the specialised services bit alone.

      Scroll down further and click on Send Pings - you're done! smile

      1. AloBeDa profile image96
        AloBeDaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks for this.

        1. BaliMermaid profile image57
          BaliMermaidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Pingomatic is great.  I also tried that ping site recommended by kids-crafts, Pingler.

          The main site is confusing BUT the extension / add-on for Firefox works so easily. With the page/Hub you want to ping as active page you click on the Pingler Medal and that is it. Done.

      2. Peggy W profile image96
        Peggy Wposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks for these detailed instructions.  How often and what do you ping?  Only new hubs or ones in which you have added or changed things?

  8. Bud Gallant profile image77
    Bud Gallantposted 8 years ago

    I think this is excellent news, and I'm really looking forward to seeing an increase in traffic.

  9. Will Apse profile image89
    Will Apseposted 8 years ago

    I'm seeing increases of around 40% on both my accounts after three days. It hasn't got me back to pre-panda but it is very good news.

  10. rmcrayne profile image98
    rmcrayneposted 8 years ago

    I switched to my subdomain a little over 2 ½ days ago.  As others have stated, my traffic seemed to have been increasing before the change.  The 24 hrs after the change, I noticed another 20% increase in traffic.  Since then, overall traffic has dipped again, but not lower than previous July daily averages. 

    More interesting and encouraging, 3 of my pre-Panda top viewed hubs are now at about their previous number of views.  Post-Panda, those hubs recovered traffic somewhat, but AdSense earnings disappeared.  Pre-Panda these hubs averaged about $10 per month each, and virtually nothing post.  I will of course be anxiously awaiting to see if traffic holds, and if earnings return on these hubs.

  11. Mrvoodoo profile image60
    Mrvoodooposted 8 years ago

    Just when I thought traffic at hubpages couldn't get worse.  It got worse.  Much, much worse. sad

    Although hopefully this is temporary.  But not yet convinced.  It would be nice after all, following the past few months and all of the changes they brought with them, to finally have something nice to say about Hubpages again.  Fingers crossed.

  12. Marisa Wright profile image95
    Marisa Wrightposted 8 years ago

    I've switched and am seeing no change whatsoever in my traffic. 

    My views are still running at about half what they were before Panda.

    1. rmcrayne profile image98
      rmcrayneposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Marisa when did you switch over?  I'm about 66 hours in.  While total views (avg/24 hrs) are only slightly increased, the 1 day views on my top 3 hubs are up to pre-Panda levels, which only happened in the last 3 hours or so.  Also, it's 10:30 pm on Sat night here, so increases in total or single hub traffic would not be typical for me.

      1. Marisa Wright profile image95
        Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I confess I didn't take a note of exactly when - it's been several days now.

    2. wilderness profile image97
      wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I think (at least I certainly hope!) that when the hubs are indexed will play a great part in increasing traffic.  I'm seeing just normal traffic for a Saturday, but only 14 of 104 hubs are indexed in the new subdomain.  And none of them were real performers; at best a couple were mediocre and the rest were pretty much duds.  Google did a fine job of picking which ones to index!

      Until the indexing is done, I can't see any reason to expect or see better traffic.

  13. Ms Chievous profile image72
    Ms Chievousposted 8 years ago

    It's been three days and I haven't seen much of a change either.  Maybe my hubs are not all indexed yet?  Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

  14. Randy Godwin profile image92
    Randy Godwinposted 8 years ago

    I have noticed my stats where the asterisks indicate links as in ***** are now showing *.  But the particular hub with the former 5 asterisks had the highest views ever in the last 24 hours. 

    I'm hoping the link stats are wrong or the reindexing has something to do with it.  smile

  15. vydyulashashi profile image59
    vydyulashashiposted 8 years ago

    Just now switched to subdomain. Let's see what changes can I notice! Cheers!

  16. CMHypno profile image95
    CMHypnoposted 8 years ago

    The re-indexing of my hubs seems to have stalled - no changes since Friday.  But weekend traffic definitely better than last week

    1. CASE1WORKER profile image69
      CASE1WORKERposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I am doing a check on what is and is not indexed and "pinging" those that have not been re indexed. I will then have a list to check each morning to see what the progress is. Traffic is up and I am eagerly awaiting the Quantcast figures as it seems that there may not have been a dip at the weekend which indicates that there was a rise in the site overall!

      1. IzzyM profile image88
        IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        http://www.quantcast.com/hubpages.com

        Not looking great yet, but that is to be expected considering so many people have had hubs de-indexed and not yet re-indexed. What is good is the 129 figure which has held 4 points up on its low of 133 last week.

        1. CASE1WORKER profile image69
          CASE1WORKERposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I think it could take a little while to see an increase as obviously there will be a number of hubbers who don't frequent the forums and will not get sub domained until the end of the Month.

  17. Pcunix profile image93
    Pcunixposted 8 years ago

    Now that we are in sub-domains, couldn't HP allow us to use our own sitemaps and tools like Google's Webmaster tools and so on?

    1. Pcunix profile image93
      Pcunixposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      They could also let us do  'rel="me" links now back to our other sites..

      1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
        theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        They could let us do a lot of things now but I won't hold my breath on any of them. smile

  18. Nell Rose profile image90
    Nell Roseposted 8 years ago

    When I checked on google some of my hubs, they had completely disappeared, I hope this isn't a problem, just something that is meant to happen? I keyed in the name of certain hubs, and it was a no no, totally disappeared into that great ether in the sky, or ground or...well, wherever it comes from!

    1. CASE1WORKER profile image69
      CASE1WORKERposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      After all your pinging! Are they all indexed?

  19. IzzyM profile image88
    IzzyMposted 8 years ago

    Our hubs are being de-indexed at a faster rate than they are being re-indexed.
    Nell, your hubs that have disappeared have been de-indexed. When they are re-indexed you should find them in a stronger position in the serps than before.
    At least, that is my hope. I have had some de-indexed and re-indexed immediately at a much higher position than the old url. I don't know if a gap in time between the processes affects thing or not as I am still waiting on several of my higher ranked hubs to be re-indexed - they too have disappeared along with all their viewers.

    In fact, are the Google bots on a work-to-rule, a go-slow seeing it is the weekend and they are not being paid overtime?

    I have only had 6 hubs re-indexed in the last 36 hours or so.

    1. CASE1WORKER profile image69
      CASE1WORKERposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Izzy-New Hubs are being indexed like lightening! I did a controlled test on mine that are not re indexed and pinged some around 8am to 10 am BST to see if it made any difference. As at 14.00 BST it has made, zilch difference.

      1. IzzyM profile image88
        IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I haven't bothered pinging mine. Glad now I haven't gone to the effort. It's great that new hubs are being indexed quickly, not that I've actually written any lately.

      2. Peggy W profile image96
        Peggy Wposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        How do you find how many hubs have been re-indexed?  By just going to my new name peggy-w on hubpages it shows some of the hub titles but also comments made by me.  Since I have hundreds of hubs I certainly can't find them page by page.  How are you knowing the exact numbers?

        1. IzzyM profile image88
          IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this
          1. Peggy W profile image96
            Peggy Wposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks IzzyM,

            Only 24 out of over 300 indexed so far.  I am more upset about reading about all the copied work from our hubs.  Haven't checked any of mine yet...almost afraid to do it.  With so many hubs published it would take a long time to report all of them to appropriate authorities.  Somehow HP needs to fine tune that aspect and be able to report it to us sooner if this is happening to so many people.

        2. Lissie profile image76
          Lissieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          google it http://www.google.com/search?hl=en& … bpages.com you currently have 18 indexed

          1. Peggy W profile image96
            Peggy Wposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Lissie,

            I noticed that according to the link you submitted it is a bit different from Izzy's.  And I am assuming we fill in the ... with our own user name?

    2. Nell Rose profile image90
      Nell Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hi, Izzy, that's what I thought, but I just wanted to check. The one thing I have noticed, which is nothing to do with pinging etc, is the number of hubs that are copied by copious amounts of sites! I thought Hubpages got them, but thats not the case! made me so mad! Breath nell, breath! lol

    3. wilderness profile image97
      wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Count your blessings, Izzy.  I had 12 indexed the first night, then nothing until yesterday when 2 more showed up on the list.  Not indexed, but at least found.  This morning I'm back down to only 9 showing up! sad

      Somewhat on the plus side, traffic is sagging but has not tanked.  Just a little subnormal for a Saturday.

  20. brandonhart100 profile image83
    brandonhart100posted 8 years ago

    I changed to my subdomain the moment it was available.  I must admit I was skeptical but I have seen a 25-30% increase across the board already.

  21. Michael Willis profile image75
    Michael Willisposted 8 years ago

    I seem to be getting about 3 hubs re-indexed a day so far. And have noticed a "not-found" when searching for the others. I am still receiving views from other search engines outside Google though. But numbers are at the lowest levels since over a year ago right now. Hopefully they will climb as Hubs are indexed again.

  22. soni2006 profile image70
    soni2006posted 8 years ago

    I am really upset to see so many sites who have already copied my hubs and these updates are not showing up in my account - copied hubs section. I think if I am able to get the details via the HP automated system, then I will speed up the process of filing DMCA complaints with those sites. Surprisingly, one of my hub has been copied by 25 blogs and websites.

    1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
      theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I found a handful of mine yesterday as well and then I was just getting irritated and stopped looking. I guess I will tackle it more today. I'm with you....no notifications on hubs at all.

    2. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I, too, am totally fed up with the theivery.

    3. Michael Willis profile image75
      Michael Willisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I am curious that since our Hubs have been "De-indexed" for the sub-domains...that Google may see OUR stolen hubs as the copied versions due to the fact our stolen hubs are now re-indexed "AFTER" the stolen work? Will Hubpages also see our stolen work the same or not???

      1. Nell Rose profile image90
        Nell Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I hope not! I am mad enough about it at the moment! as I said, I only checked one hub, and it was copied about 6 times, that was with the same title, but who knows how many others there are with a different title but the same work?

        1. PegCole17 profile image94
          PegCole17posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Nell,
          How did you discover the theft? Where did you go to find out?
          I better do some checking.
          Thanks
          Peg

          1. Nell Rose profile image90
            Nell Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Hi, Peg, I was just checking my urls to see if the new domain had kicked in, so I was going to ping them, and the way I did it was to type in the hub title in google search, exactly as it is in my hub, not just using key words, but the whole thing. I was amazed at how many came up underneath! I know that many titles have the same header name, but mine was unique to do with a particular subject. So, I clicked on them, and voila! there they were! all copied! one had the cheek to actually change a few words around, as though it was his work! I have emailed them, or commented on their site, I will have to wait and see what happens, its going to take ages to try my other hubs! As someone else stated, what happens if when our hubs come back up, the date will have changed and then we look as though we are the copiers!

            1. PegCole17 profile image94
              PegCole17posted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Nell,
              Thanks so much for the heads up on the copied material. I just followed your lead and checked on some of my hubs and yup, copied almost word for word to RedGage, Digital writer and Blogspot. My hands are shaking I'm so frustrated with this.

              I will be reporting these people who plagiarized my work. Some have my actual comments including my name along with my responses showing in their articles!

              Unbelievable.

              Again, thank you for your help on finding this. A word to the wise.

              Peg

              1. viking305 profile image91
                viking305posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Just checked a hub of mine and it too has been copied word for word on Squidoo.  Thanks for the warning.  I have reported it but it has been there for 3 months. Arrrggg these people make me sick!

                Also the same person has also stolen a hub from another hubber called Origin.  I can not find the link to contact Origin about their stolen work. Can anyone tell me how I can let them know.

                1. IzzyM profile image88
                  IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Is Origin not the guy who lives in Greece or somewhere, who has been ill? I might be wrong - who is the hubber who owned a backlinking site?

    4. Peggy W profile image96
      Peggy Wposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That is horrible!  Hope that it is not happening all across the board and that HP is not notifying us.  One of mine was copied exactly...even the pictures several years ago and had been live for a long time before I found out by HP.

      1. mistyhorizon2003 profile image90
        mistyhorizon2003posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        You have a 'copied hubs section' Soni? I don't seem to have that, but used to get a duplicate content warning if my Hub was copied, but it has been over a year or two since that last happened.

    5. Mrs. Menagerie profile image93
      Mrs. Menagerieposted 8 years ago

      That is absolutely horrible Soni!

    6. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

      I was happy to see all the posts about the re-indexing issues. It means that my current crashed-and-burned traffic totals may indeed only be temporary and will go back to better once the re-indexing problems are past. Here is to a prosperous new week! smile

    7. CASE1WORKER profile image69
      CASE1WORKERposted 8 years ago

      One more hub has been indexed! It was not oneI had "pinged", it was from the other batch , so I am not sold on the pinging yet!

      1. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I agree - I pinged a dozen or more but none have been indexed.  It doesn't seem to be of much value, at least in my case.

    8. Dolores Monet profile image95
      Dolores Monetposted 8 years ago

      what is pinging ?

      1. Nell Rose profile image90
        Nell Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Hi, Dolores, I only just figured it out too, if you go to a site called Pingomatic, you then put your hub url in, its easy and self explanatory when you get there, and then press ping! evidently this helps google etc to notice your hub again, okay?

        1. Dolores Monet profile image95
          Dolores Monetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you, Nell. I wonder if this is something that helped more before Panda and if it is still useful today.

    9. theherbivorehippi profile image75
      theherbivorehippiposted 8 years ago

      My pinging is not helping either. sad Can't say I didn't try though.

      1. PRanj profile image57
        PRanjposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I don't think that pinging will make any impact on Google. Next time, when Google Crawler will run, it should index your new url. Before that, choose few of your hubs - de-indexed, but having huge potential- and make a link to any hub which has already been indexed. Crawler generally visits all of its indexed hubs/articles to assess the quality of pages and rank accordingly, like view duration, comments, and EDIT.... It will definitely see your linked hubs, which is yet to be indexed, and may consider indexing......

        1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
          theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Please don't respond to my posts. I have already made clear in previous comments that I have no respect for you or your opinion. You've already proven yourself to be clueless, disrespectful and rude, why you would even acknowledge my comment is beyond me.

          1. PRanj profile image57
            PRanjposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I just tried to help you. Its your wish. BTW, its you who started all this shit. I am waiting for that bloody SunZero to respond. Why did you respond at my post? Why?

            And, this is a thread for the whole of community. I just clicked the last one and tried to help - to fill my own thinking about getting indexed- and, I know I was right.

      2. PRanj profile image57
        PRanjposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        And, I hope you have already submitted all of your de-indexed hubs to 'Google URL Submission'.

        Keep faith. Subdomain is really helping. The proof is at my hand. In some cases, the scenario is far much better than pre-panda.

        However, my experience says that IF A VISITOR IS COMING FROM YOUR HUB From a search Engine AND SPENDING QUALITY TIME then it is going to be ranked better than even Pre Panda days.

        My little knowledge is itching to suggest you that - keep an eye on those hubs with a view duration of FIVE STAR...........

        1. prairieprincess profile image92
          prairieprincessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I am wondering about submitting your url to Google. When you go to that page, it says to only submit the top page, not the individual pages. Now that we have subdomains, would the individual hubs be considered individual pages?

          1. weightloss-diets profile image60
            weightloss-dietsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            The only page you should submit to Google URL submitter is you subdomain.hubpages.com and that basically is your profile page.

            It does specifically say that it follows all dofollow links and your profile page has the "latest", "best" and "hot" do follow links that should allow the bots to find them all.

            Having said that. Many people put every page, one by one. I do not know if that penalizes you or not. The Google page does not admonish us not to do it. It just says submit the top page.

            Since we don't, yet, submit site maps perhaps its okay to do them one by one. I just don't know. Maybe someone else has definitive information.

          2. PRanj profile image57
            PRanjposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Google doesn't penalize webmasters who continue to submit pages there. However, to fight against spam it has developed its own wall and dont give a penny of thought for those pages.

            Submit de-indexed pages, there is no harm. However, I think it would be better to link your de-indexed pages to some pages which has already been indexed by Google. As I mentioned, Crawler will see your linked pages and may index those.

            And, keep in mind - View Duration from people who are coming from search engine matters a lot............... If you had any hub like this Pre-Panda then start promoting that one........... You will be surprised.... Subdomain is really working nicely for those pages......

            Ping does not work for Google. Google URL Submission May, or May not work. All your pages will be indexed within one week. And, view duration for organic visitors matters A LOT..... That's what I think without a semblance of SEO knowledge....

    10. leahlefler profile image97
      leahleflerposted 8 years ago

      I tried pinging, too, and it was to no avail. A few more of my hubs have indexed, but they were not the ones I pinged.

    11. CASE1WORKER profile image69
      CASE1WORKERposted 8 years ago

      If you read Gordon Hamiltons post from about 18 hours ago, it gives you the information.
      I have checked again and my re lists are from un pinged hubs.
      The way I understand pinging is it is like standing up and saying coeee I am here to all the search engines who may ( or in my case may not) come over to see what you have been doing

    12. o0jopak0o profile image58
      o0jopak0oposted 8 years ago

      Is hubpages using any redirect to our old hub url/links?

      1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
        theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this
      2. o0jopak0o profile image58
        o0jopak0oposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        oops I didn't thoroughly explain myself sorry. I mean 301 redirect.

    13. weightloss-diets profile image60
      weightloss-dietsposted 8 years ago

      cool - my friend just put their subdomain.hubpages.com into the quantcast search box and it actually came up with traffic data. That never happened before. He was a subdomain tester.

      1. IzzyM profile image88
        IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Wow! It works!

      2. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Hey - that's neat!  My own shows up there now, too, and I was not a tester.

      3. Mark Ewbie profile image86
        Mark Ewbieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Interesting.  You can check anybodies traffic.  Not sure how good that is.

    14. rebekahELLE profile image86
      rebekahELLEposted 8 years ago

      sometimes the 'curse' of 100 score. sad 
      Nell,your work is so well written and informative.

    15. Patty Inglish, MS profile image94
      Patty Inglish, MSposted 8 years ago

      I am thankful for more good news in that my traffic and earnings are up significantly for a Saturday. I think it's working. Thanks for this move!

    16. Stacie L profile image91
      Stacie Lposted 8 years ago

      I'm seeing a slight increase but nothing significant yet...

    17. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
      Paul Edmondsonposted 8 years ago

      In all our tests we let google find the pages and index them naturally.  That's what I'd recommend.

      I'd give it at least five days to get the pages indexed, although there will be variances in what each person sees.

    18. IzzyM profile image88
      IzzyMposted 8 years ago

      Most people have already linked their relevant hubs. It is against HP rules to link unrelated topics together.

      I have many hubs interlinked and can tell you that interlinking does not make one iota of difference in this instance, as I have some interlinked hubs indexed, and many more not.

    19. waynet profile image73
      waynetposted 8 years ago

      At the moment traffic is utter pants, but will still give it time and see what happens! Who knows the traffic may go back up over 3000 views a day.... or not. will just wait and see as things are still fluctuating, so rather than me making any decisions that are considered hasty I'll wait it out a week or two.

      On a seperate note my YouTube views have also plummeted......?????!!

    20. saddlerider1 profile image67
      saddlerider1posted 8 years ago

      I have reached a hub score of 100 a few times, however after taking on a subdomain name, I saw a slight increase in total views as well my Hub score went back up to 100, could having a subdomain name have done that? regardless if it did, I accept it gladly. lol

    21. leahlefler profile image97
      leahleflerposted 8 years ago

      I'm starting to see red arrows... things are improving! Here's to a steady rise (more of my hubs have now been indexed, thank goodness)!

      1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
        theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        lol...I have a couple red arrows too....even they are hard to spot amidst all the blue ones. hmm  There are definitely some peaking through though. Oddly, they are hubs that traditionally do not see a large amount of traffic.

    22. waynet profile image73
      waynetposted 8 years ago

      I got lots of blue arrows I think they are mocking me!!!!

      1. Mutiny92 profile image75
        Mutiny92posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        me too.  hopefully it is temporary

        1. waynet profile image73
          waynetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Yes I hope so too!

      2. theherbivorehippi profile image75
        theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I'm back to all blue arrows again. Clearly I spoke too soon and will learn my lesson to not open my mouth next time I see a red one. hmm

    23. IzzyM profile image88
      IzzyMposted 8 years ago

      Another 50 odd of my hubs have been indexed within the last hour or two, so hopefully everyone will be seeing the same results.

      1. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        That's right - rub it in! lol

        Actually, I've gone from 9 indexed to 26, also in the last little bit.  Good news.

        1. IzzyM profile image88
          IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Wilderness that is excellent news. Tomorrow you will see a rise trust me!

          @the herbivorehippi (how come I don't know your name?) it's the fin de semana - next week will blow your mind!

          1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
            theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            lol...let's hope so! smile

            Bianca or Willow....but not together...first and middle name means you're in trouble, according to my mother. hmm My dogs also have middle names...they know they're in trouble when I use them both!

            1. IzzyM profile image88
              IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              What beautiful names!I am quite jealous - your mum had great taste! You give your dogs second names??

              Not going there!! LOL

              1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
                theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                (sigh) I paid for them Izzy....the names that is. I just needed a change. Yes...the dogs are Shiloh Storm and Malachi Sebastian. smile

                1. IzzyM profile image88
                  IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I take it they are pedigree? Some dogs get a right mouthful of names, but it has to do with their breeding.

          2. wilderness profile image97
            wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, I'm cautiously optimistic.  I've already crossed yesterdays traffic (with 8 hours to go), the 24 hour stats are rising, and google.com 24 hour traffic suddenly rose by nearly 50%.  I have several hubs back on page 1 for a keyword search and none of them are my best performers.

            I could all be just Sunday vs Saturday (I see a rise here each week) but it will be a very large increase if it continues.

            There is hope. smile

            1. IzzyM profile image88
              IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              My most popular hub which thankfully got re-indexed early has seen its daily views shoot up from a maximum of 600 to over 1100. I am over the moon despite the fact that my adsense has not kept pace and in fact today, like previous days, my only adsense hits are coming from my blogs and sites and none from HP.
              On the brighter side, my HPads earnings are up, but still way less than in their first month, which was post-Panda.

              1. wilderness profile image97
                wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Pure and absolute speculation, but I wonder if we won't see an increase in both the per view income and the CPC as the hubs (hopefully) regain their position in the SERPs.

                My CPM has gone down in HPads since that first month as well, and the CPC for adsense is half what it was even with HPads taking the lower paying slots.

                If it does happen, it could well take a while to see it.

    24. rmcrayne profile image98
      rmcrayneposted 8 years ago

      I switched about 86 hours ago.  My traffic is definitely higher than it’s been in months.  It’s up another 22% from 21 hours ago.  Overnight my stats on one of my top viewed hubs had met pre-Panda levels for daily views.  Another top viewed hub is now showing a 25% increase over pre-Panda daily views.  Not seeing the return of AdSense earnings on these hubs yet though, but AdSense is starting to pick up.

      My overall traffic range pre-Panda was about 1000-1300 views per day.  Looking at my AdSense impressions and converting, by June my average for the month was a little over 450 views per day.  During the last 4-6 weeks, my HP stats have shown under 300 daily views at times.  Today I’ve been at around 640 views for 24 hr average.

    25. Len Cannon profile image86
      Len Cannonposted 8 years ago

      My traffic is at a high since Panda since changing over.  On the best of the best good days it has been this high, but I am pretty confident that it is not a statistical fluke because a lot of articles that dropped like a stone are finally acting like they used to.

      A few, though... they're doing worse. Significantly. It is probably a fair trade but I am wondering what criteria Google isn't liking the second time around.

      1. wilderness profile image97
        wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        The ones doing worse - are they indexed yet in the new domain?  If not, have they been de-indexed in their old URL form?  This would certainly cause a drop in traffic for those hubs!

    26. weightloss-diets profile image60
      weightloss-dietsposted 8 years ago

      Here is a tip that might help if you have a hub that has not been indexed. This hub account is new and after three days was not indexed.

      I tried pinging, waiting, Google url submission, nothing was working. So maybe coincidence but within 15 minutes of bookmarking on " savedit dot at" my hubs and profile were showing when I did the

      in site: "weightloss-diets.hubpages.com" routine

      Savedit.at has an English side and another language side. You might try a hub that has not been indexed and see if it works for you too.

    27. theherbivorehippi profile image75
      theherbivorehippiposted 8 years ago

      Is anyone else having a hard time posting in this forum? I leave a comment and then it either disappears or I get an error message that the post is no longer available....it's happen four times now. It's like I'm partially banned or something. smile I'm in the corner but not completely grounded?

      1. IzzyM profile image88
        IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        It's just you. You are partially banned wink

        1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
          theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Sounds about right. smile

          1. Kangaroo_Jase profile image80
            Kangaroo_Jaseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Clear your web browser cache, you've got bad cookies in your browser.

            1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
              theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Thanks! smile

          2. PRanj profile image57
            PRanjposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Nothing like this here............ What does it mean.... ? Lol!!!

            You are partially BANNED........? Ha............... ha ha ha............ he he he....... LOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOL.......

            Don't worry....... YOU DESERVE IT.......... I hope that has been removed till now..... but, I am really happy for that.....

            1. IzzyM profile image88
              IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              PRanj, why don't you shut up?

              Or, as the King of Spain said to the President of Venezuela, "Porque no te callas?"

              The above was a joke between theherbivorehippi and me, mainly, and not for rude people like you to take another meaning and twist it.

              1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
                theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks...I don't know whether to be amused or annoyed.

            2. theherbivorehippi profile image75
              theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              It was a joke. Seriously? Go away..you're like a little gnat that just won't find someone else to bother.

    28. lakeerieartists profile image74
      lakeerieartistsposted 8 years ago

      I now have 36 percent hubs indexed under the new subdomain.  Changed over late on Wed.

      1. IzzyM profile image88
        IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        The bots went on overtime, and I now have around 70% of my hubs indexed.

        Traffic is up to pre-Panda levels (woo-hoo!) but my earnings haven't returned, even though it is Google traffic that is causing the increase in views.

        1. Lily Rose profile image87
          Lily Roseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I have a stupid question: Is there a way to check if your hubs are indexed without having to do a search for each and every one individually?

          I see many people (with very large amounts of hubs) giving percentages of their hubs that are indexed - are you checking one hub at a time or am I clueless and missing something here?


          On another note, today I hit the earnings, with the HP Ad Program, at which I ended June with - not bad at just past half this month!! smile

          1. CASE1WORKER profile image69
            CASE1WORKERposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            go into google

            site:Lily Rose.hubpages.com

            press search
            this will tell you what has been indexed on your sub domain

        2. Ms Dee profile image87
          Ms Deeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          About 51% of mine are now indexed. Traffic is about halfway up to pre-Panda this morning. Expecting it to rise more, based on other's reports.

      2. Ms Dee profile image87
        Ms Deeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        lakeerieartists, that's when I, too, made the change over. I understand that those with more hubs take longer to index, and you have twice as many as I do, so the speed yours are indexing seems to reflect the same speed of the indexing of mine. Mentioning in case such confirmation is helpful.

    29. weightloss-diets profile image60
      weightloss-dietsposted 8 years ago

      I guess things are going okay but it is pretty depressing that I can bookmark my profile and my hubs on

      Savedit.at

      and

      RedGage

      and almost before I get time to check to see if my hubs and new sub-domain profile are indexed the entries on savedit.at and Redgage are right there in the search results.

      If my sub-domain and hubs were indexed, okay then no problem, right but how can a bookmark get indexed faster than the original item - How about that Big G?

      SUPER FRUSTRATING

      1. Will Apse profile image89
        Will Apseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I'm sure you are deeply engaging with this issue having joined all of five days ago.

        Or are we supposed to fly over to one of your 3 hubs and buy something?

      2. Azure11 profile image90
        Azure11posted 8 years ago

        Well I changed to a subdomain as soon as it was announced and immediately my traffic began to drop. To be honest I was at the point of just leaving all my hubpages and going off to concentrate on my own websites anyway. Traffic was pretty much at an all time low for the last few days but it has picked up reasonably today so i will see what happens this week.

      3. weightloss-diets profile image60
        weightloss-dietsposted 8 years ago

        Gee Will thanks for the nice welcome.

        It just so happens this is not my only account and have been on Hubpages longer than your exalted self.

        Is this how you greet all newcomers?  Could that be why so many don't even bother with the forums, because of trolls like yourself.

        I still would not mind a civil response and if that is not possible perhaps you should consider superglue, which seems to be about the only thing NOT for sale within your hubs.

        1. Will Apse profile image89
          Will Apseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I am intrigued.

          Are you one of the hubbers who went off in a rage? Is there some terrible scandal attached to your former name? Will it ever be safe to reveal your true identity?

          1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
            theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            You don't sell superglue? Dang...I was really in the market for some too! lol smile

            1. Will Apse profile image89
              Will Apseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              It is a little strange that in a thread about the shift to subdomains someone enters the debate so strongly without any apparent credentials. It is even stranger that they say they have ditched their former identity.

              The first post emphasizes that one of the big advantages in the subdomain approach is that it allows people to become recognizable 'brands' (whether you like this word or not when applied to people, it has some validity for an internet writer's online persona).

              1. theherbivorehippi profile image75
                theherbivorehippiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                I've been humored by the posts as well. smile

              2. Lisa HW profile image61
                Lisa HWposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                With the new subdomains thing, I'm seeing a new meaning for the word "branding" (as it's been used in business over the last several years).  I'm more seeing "branding" as what Google will be doing to our names (labeling us as "quality" or "not quality" and forever branding us (like cattle).)  hmm  Maybe it won't be quite such an either/or thing.   hmm

                1. CASE1WORKER profile image69
                  CASE1WORKERposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  I really think it is a matter of wait and see. Short term results appear OK but it would probably be best to wait until it is sustained for some time.

      4. Eaglekiwi profile image76
        Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago

        Oh my gosh ,having your own sub domain is um different indeed!

        I just put my url into Goggle and almost everything is cached, comments Ive made in 2yrs on just about everything..

        Keyword seem to be Hubpages , and eaglekiwi (kinda) so I hope I benefit.

        Thanks caseworker ,I used your 'help' above.

        I have a star beside one of my hubs, is that what you mean by ranking?

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