The Subdomain Switch ...What's Happening with you?

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   Rob Wintersposted 13 years ago

   Richie just go to your 'My Account' page,click the profile tab then Subdomain,answer security q's and follow any prompts - only takes 2 mins.

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      Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      OK, I'll do this next Monday, thanks

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         wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Richie, from a logistics standpoint, and ignoring your desire for this month's income, it would probably be better to do it late Friday or even Thursday.
         
         That would give two weekend days (low traffic for most people) to begin the re-indexing process.  Most of us did not see much decrease in traffic for a couple of days, when the old URL's began to be de-indexed, which is why I mention Thursday.
         
         Just a though that you may not have considered.  Whatever you decide I hope it goes quickly and well for you.

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   mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years ago

   I thought it was the end of the month, which would make it around Sunday 1st August.

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      Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Sunday is the 31st

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         mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Whoops, yes, you are correct, mental arithmetic was never my strong point LOL

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            Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Hehe, wasn't poking fun, I only know because its an extra earnings day

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   Bill Manningposted 13 years ago

   Wow, quite an active discussion here.
   
   Just wanted to peek in and say howdy since almost everyone I use to talk to seems to be following this. As for the whole Panda and changes thing,,,,, I'll just say a little.
   
   I'm busy making many of my own sites and moving on up. Google will always be coming out with different things to screw with you. They always have and always will.
   
   Panda is not just one thing you need to "beat". Soon it will be something else, than something else. The net and SE's and how you make money off it always will change, always.
   
   I can already see several things that will change soon. You change with it and do what you have to do if your trying to make money online.
   
   Sorry I don't post much here anymore but I am busy doing what I need to do to keep living off the net. And it sure is not here at Hubpages.
   
   Anyway I wish you all well and hope for the best for you all. Try to diversify and get your own sites going, it's always the best way to make money online,,,, always.

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   Eric Graudinsposted 13 years ago

   I put a tiny one pixel image of a unicorn farting a rainbow on my one remaining hub, and my traffic instantly increased by 1437%.

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      PRanjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Don't litter

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   Eric's response is a fair one. If you hold yourself to the moral highground in marketing ... i.e. backlinking is wrong, then it goes without question that writing product reviews minus the abilty to have tested the product (or service) that you're reviewing is, by anyone's description, a dishonest.
   
   And for those that remain highly irritated by anyone that does backlink then you have to acknowledge that Google invented the need. That's how and why Google were groundbreaking, it's the way in which they 'measure' their rankings.
   
   Doesn't make it right. But it does put forth the foundations relating to why people use/abuse the system.

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      wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I disagree on both counts, frogdropping.  A real product review should not be done without using the product yourself unless you want to take the time to examine dozens or a hundred other reviews and compile them into one review and make that clear.  On the other hand, you can push a product or products without a review by simply listing them as "available - take your pick" and letting the reader do the work.
      
      Google did not invent the need for massive backlinking.  Backlinks to provide traffic are one thing; backlinks solely to game google's algorithm are another.   Google left the door open on that one, people found it and used it to the point that it is now a recognized and acceptable method of promotion. 
      
      I do agree that this doesn't make it right because it doesn't.  I does make it an option to writing reams of high quality stuff to get a little traffic - just buy an automatic backlinking service and game the heck out of google.  It leaves the quality writer kind of up the creek, but the common feeling seems to be "OH well, I guess they should do it too".  And the users of the search engine suffers as they are guided to more and more trash - we've certainly seen enough of that right here on HP.

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      Will Apseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There are not many books about space exploration, the moon landings or the wonders of the solar system written by people who have actually been into space.
      
      Mostly, they are written by people who have done their research and have the writer's skills to construct a satisfying and accurate narrative.
      
      Apply good standards to writing Amazon hubs and you will be surprised by the rewards.
      
      Slip into copy writing and you will just be adding more dross to the system. You won't be making any money either.

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   Google didn't open the door re backlinking? Pagerank
   
   Google didn't invent backlinks, I'll grant you that. What they did invent was the Pagerank system which ... surprise ... measures backlinks.

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      wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That's what I was (poorly) trying to say.  Google created the possibility of excessive backlinking (probably inadvertently) and it was promptly taken advantage of.
      
      Pagerank, and measuring backlinks, would perhaps be a good thing if it weren't so easy to game it with 1000's of worthless backlinks that do nothing but artificially raise that rank.

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      Will Apseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So the guys who invented windows and doors are responsible for burglary?
      
      And burglars are worthy of respect because they didn't invent windows and doors they just exploit them in a natural and completely understandable way?
      
      Now I see...

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         Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Forget it Will:  if it makes money, these people admire dishonesty.  It's that simple.

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   The guys that invented windows and doors didn't intend for them to become an open invite to passers by. They came with locks on.
   
   As for your advice about how to write online - I'll let the less informed take you up on it.

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   thisisoliposted 13 years ago

   There are plenty of ways to backlink the right way, and it has nothing to do with writing worthless dross.
   
   I have personally read what you have written Will, and I do not see why you feel yourselves higher placed than the rest of us sales writers.
   
   Did you manage to get the 100,000 accolade yet?

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Automating thousands of links is surely not what you are talking about. That's what Misha bragged about.

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         thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I definitely do not condone Misha's backlinking techniques as best practice SEO.  While I respect that he has managed to earn a lot online, we definitely have different viewpoints on many aspects in SEO.

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   Dorsiposted 13 years ago

   Since changing to subdomains a few days ago, my hubs have recovered to almost the pre-Panda days. All the hubs that were performing well are performing well again, along with a boost to my other hubs that were not.
   My Adsense earnings have also recovered remarkably in the last 2 days - back to pre-Panda days. Yesterday I had the best day I've had in adsense since the slap - an almost $9.00 day.
   Things are looking up. Thank you HubPages for working hard to help us get back on track, and I'm glad I didn't jump ship.

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      thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Dorsi, don't forget that since you are on a sub domain, and Panda runs monthly, Your sub-domain has not yet been analysed by Panda, Currently your domain is 'clean' once Panda runs that is when any penalty would be applied.

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         Will Apseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Do you have any evidence that Panda is run monthly? Has Google informed anyone of this?
         
         All the SEO rumor mill has to go on as far as I know is a single tweet from Mark Cutts saying Panda didn't run in a live environment but was pushed out manually when they felt there was a need a regen the data.

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            thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Matt Cutts has said that  Panda will be updated manually at regular intervals.  Since panda 1.0, 2.0, 2.1 and 2.2 have come at roughly monthly intervals (the difference between 1.0 and 2.0 being 7 weeks) it seems reasonable to assume that in July we will see another update.  If we don't this update then we will have course re-evaluate this.

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         Dorsiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yes true. I think I will be OK though. My analysis of the situation is that if you have quality hubs they will eventually be rewarded for how they are written.
         
         Not tooting my own horn here but after being in business for over 14 years I've learned to roll with the punches and adapt.
         
         I think this was a good move on HP's part and weeding out the garbage is important in any business.
         
         Those that work hard and write well will eventually come out OK, I believe.

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            Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            My experience seems similar to yours, Dorsi.  Post-Panda and pre-subdomains, I was seeing a number of $2/$3 days (Ad Sense from Hubs), a rare $5 day, but so often, under-a-dollar days.  A couple of days ago I saw the highest post-Panda day, $11 and change.  That's not "big bucks" (but writing Hubs isn't my "career" either, so even that much is nice - and also needed).  It's still less than half/a third (depending on the days/months) of my pre-Panda "better" days; but even if this is as good as it gets/stays, I know exactly what I plan to do to get it boosted (and/or supplement it, as I've been doing anyway, with stuff in other places).
            
            Google has made it clear that they're "continuing to" try to come up with ways of thwarting certain types of activities/material; so I'm  not all that sure I won't be filtered out in any future runs (or in ways Google may be "filtering out" people that are completely separate from the infamous Panda algorithms).  They have their giant database of people with Ad Sense accounts.  Nobody knows what they may/may not do as far as going through that database and coding individual accounts (or something like that) goes.
            
            Besides adjusting, I think people have to look beyond the lowest-common-denominator thinking that can go on; and sense, not only only trends, but the likely consequences resulting from those trends - and then plan accordingly.

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               Dorsiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Yes I agree Lisa. You, like I,have been around here at HubPages for awhile and you have a good head on your shoulders.
               
               I am of the firm belief that if you add value to society with good writing, that will be rewarded, whether by Google or not. What this Panda update has taught me is that I should not put all my eggs in one basket, and should diversify like I think any good business should. If a business depends on one customer and that customer goes away...what happens? I have had that happen to me in a brick and mortar business and it's not pretty. Fortunately our business was pretty diverse and did not focus on just one area...which helped in the long run (even though we did shut down eventually after 14 years...more a accumulation of other things gone wrong)
               
               So my strategy is now to learn more about the technical side, continue to write well and when I'm prepared, to have more of my own sites. I need to make sure I take the proper steps though and don't just start websites willy-nilly. I know one thing I will NOT be doing and that is writing for someone else. I am not interested in beating someone elses drum. I am interested in creating my own brand now.
               And that's not to knock writers who do write for others. That is just not for me. Call it the entrepreneur spirit or whatever, it's just part of who I am and I know what I want and don't want to do as far as my writing is concerned.

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         PRanjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry Oli! This time your analysis is wrong..... Ask anyone who used to publish lots of hubs on celebrity - not spammy, spinned, or duplicate - they have lost almost all of their organic visits from Google once they switched to Subdomain. I think you should also switch to subdomain, you will definitely love the scenario.

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            thisisoliposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I think you have missed the point here, the point is not that spam content is doing badly compared to subdomains with high quality content.  Chances are the high quality hubs have always beaten the poor quality hubs anyway.  The issue is that Panda has not yet refreshed, so the new domains that have been created have not yet had the Panda value assigned to them.

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    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    "Based on our testing, we’ve found the algorithm is very accurate at detecting site quality. If you believe your site is high-quality and has been impacted by this change, we encourage you to evaluate the different aspects of your site extensively. Google's quality guidelines provide helpful information about how to improve your site. As sites change, our algorithmic rankings will update to reflect that. In addition, you’re welcome to post in our Webmaster Help Forums." - Source
    
    The above certainly doesn't say 'we will perform monthly updates', however, what it does say is pretty obvious.
    
    Hubpages has changed it's foundations. The site has changed. Naturally Google will (then) update its ranking accordingly.

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    thisisoliposted 13 years ago

    Surprisingly kind words from a professional editor lol!

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    Daniel Carterposted 13 years ago

    Unless you are in the mind and heart of Google and understand  THEIR definition of "quality" writing, you're only guessing. What may be quality to Will and PC (and many others) may NOT be quality to Google. The indicators are, after confessions of great set backs and losses that there may be some question about quality content and staying abreast of current SEO knowledge.
    
    I don't think the phoenix has risen from the ashes yet.

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    Mark Ewbieposted 13 years ago

    I don't want anyone to think I'm talking out of my apse here but I do believe Google has assessed my content. My traffic has changed accordingly.
    
    I am ecstatic / disappointed / suicidal / overjoyed - delete depending on mood and alcohol intake.

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       PaulGoodman67posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       @Mark - I never cease to be amazed by your ability to sum up the Hubpages zeitgeist, Mark!  hehe!

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       Brie Hoffmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes but has google assessed your content for the good?

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          Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Search traffic is up.  Overall traffic is down - HP is deathly quiet - it seems to me.  Adsense is rubbish.
          But to be fair I haven't exactly targeted any sort of purchasing market.  I can't face going into the Learning Centre - keywords, research - it's not really my thing.

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             wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Are you seeing traffic from markewbie.hubpages.com?  It looks to me like I'm getting a lot of new traffic from there (for Wilderness, of course) that used to be a part of HP traffic.  I believe that's why HP traffic is so low.
             
             My traffic is not down, however, and it surprises me that yours is unless you switched over less than a week ago.

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                Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I switched two weeks ago.  The bulk of my traffic was HP anyway, before and after Panda.  HP has dropped, particularly the 'feed' across from other people's hubs.
                Search has increased.  I am getting some hits based on not neccessarily an exact title match.  That's good.
                
                Unfortunately - pre Panda I was only just getting the idea of writing for a target. Then when Panda struck I thought "what's the point". Prostitute yourself and still not get paid.  So I just wrote more of what I wanted to write.
                
                I am undecided over my next move.  The SEO world waits with baited breath.

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             Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Mark, since  your search traffic is up, two questions:  a) do you have HP ads activated, and b) if yes, have you tried (now that search traffic is up) de-activating the HP ads and seeing how you do with Ad Sense alone?

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                Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Hi Lisa, I deactivated HP Ads a month or so ago.  I never get more than the odd 'sympathy' click anyway, or else some drunk unable to navigate to the back arrow.

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                   Brie Hoffmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Oh Mark, your day will come, I'm sure of it!  I'm thinking a column in the New York times good thoughts your way!

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                      Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Thanks Brie, that's all I need for today!  I'll stop spamming the forums.

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    danfresnourbanposted 13 years ago

    I switched to a subdomain about a week ago. In the beginning traffic slowed, then slowly began coming back after 3 days. I have noticed that traffic on hubs with historically competetive key words has not increased, that makes sense because sites that have been SEO optimized and have multiple pages of relevant information are probably more relevant than my single hub page. I am going to try some hub clusters and see how that goes

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    Lissieposted 13 years ago

    I'm not seeing any significant change in HP's stats: http://www.quantcast.com/hubpages.com#traffic

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       mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That is a very interesting graph Lissie, thanks for posting it. (Well worth a look)

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    earnestshubposted 13 years ago

    Alexa is still showing loss of position (342nd today) down from a best of 75 as I recall. The drop is not as rapid now, and it may be bottoming out.

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       danfresnourbanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Im not surprised that Alexa has not changed. The subdomain project will succeed in a few steps, first step is to make sure that the traffic that comes,  comes almost exclusively to quality hubs.
       
       Step 2
       Wait for poor quality writers to go away because they are not being paid. In the meantime, the relatively few quality writers will divide a smaller pie but earn more money because they are not sharing with anyone.
       
       Step 3
       Sign up more skilled, semi pro and professional freelance writers. Who earn healthy passive income from their quality writing

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    Dorsiposted 13 years ago

    I am definitely back on track. Another good adsense day and it's not even over. Sub-domains is working for me!!
    I'm happy!! (doing a happy dance!!)

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    Janet21posted 13 years ago

    For those of you showing an increase in traffic after the switchover, did you originally see a small dip before the surge in traffic?  I switched over last night and tonight I am down 300 daily visits.  Not panicking...yet.

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That's common, Janet.  As hubs are de-indexed but not yet re-indexed they will lose search engine traffic.  For the most part I think it will take 3-5 days before you begin to see any increase and until then traffic will most likely decrease some.

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          Janet21posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Okay thanks

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       Dorsiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes I had the same thing happen. My traffic slowed down right after I switched to my new subdomains. Then within a couple days my google traffic started rising pretty fast. Hang tight!

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    michifusposted 13 years ago

    Interesting...... Now my subdomain has been read, I have top spot in Google for one keyword on the new subdomain, and have the old page address positioned at number 2!
    
    Now, all I need is another 8 subdomains and Ill own page one in Google...haha haha hahahahahahahahaha! ahhh!
    
    Right, I'm off to get a white Persian cat and a big black leather swivel chair!

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    Brie Hoffmanposted 13 years ago

    Wow, I've really noticed a difference in just 2 days...could it be my imagination?

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    Rik Ravadoposted 13 years ago

    My traffic has fallen suddenly during the last 24 hours to pre domain switch levels.  Others are also reporting a sudden fall in this thread: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/79799

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       PRanjposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       You need to do some editing. Some of your hubs are poorly written.

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          WriteAngledposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Pot calling kettle black?
          
          I suggest you look carefully at your own grammar and style, there is much to be improved in both.

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             Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Baking tray calling pot calling kettle.
             
             Nah, I'm only joking.  We are all kings of our own subdomains now.  I return to mine and prepare for greatness.
             
             edit: I really was just joking by the way.

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                WriteAngledposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Oh I'm sure my writing can be criticised too, Mark!
                
                Apart from anything else, it is probably too dry and scientific for general tastes, even when I think I've made it as simple as possible.
                
                However, I think it inappropriate to make facile comments about other people's writing, which is why I reacted. In fact, after a quick look at a couple of Rik's hubs, I find the comment totally unjustified.

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                   KeithTaxposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Are you saying your writing is too intelligent for the average reader?

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                      WriteAngledposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      I'm saying I write as I write, Keith.
                      
                      I spent many years in education up to PhD and then after that many years working primarily in a scientific environment. That scientific training and environment enforces a certain writing style, which has now become second nature to me.
                      
                      Unfortunately, it is not the most user-friendly of styles in the big bad world of Internet readership.
                      
                      Try as I may, I find it difficult to write in another way.
                      
                      I wish I could, as the scientific style does not translate into page views and clicks.

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          Rik Ravadoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Wow!  I was mortified by PRaji's savage attack on my writing ability.  (Thanks by the way for the aptly named WriteAngled for her supportive comments with which, of course, I heartily agree!)
          
          I normally avoid personal attacks here on HubPages but this is a little harsh coming from someone with 2 hubs and one (misguided?) follower.  Yes we can all improve but I think PRanj has far more to learn about writing, SEO and AdsSense than than I do.  I think my hubs are also more interesting!
          
          On a lighter note, bad writing or not, traffic on both my accounts has mysteriously increased by 40% in the last 12 hours - I think wild traffic fluctuations may be part of the 'Google dance' that kicks off every time they let that damn Panda loose!  
          
          PS: I'm off to join the WriteAngled fan club - I'm afraid the PRaji 'follow' is on hold at present!

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             mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             LOL, beautifully put Rik

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                Rik Ravadoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks Misty - Trust Island life is still treating you well!

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                   mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Hi Rik, a few problems with island life right now, including a landlord who is trying to bump up our rent by £200 a month, combine that with my falling over a pothole on the 18th June and smashing out one of my upper frontal incisors, now having to wear a temp denture until a proper ceramic tooth can be fitted in 5 months time (cost approx £3000 that we cannot get the traffic committee to pay due to lack of local laws that could force them to), and I would say life not all that rosy. Never mind, I guess things can only get better.
                   Thanks for asking though

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                      Rik Ravadoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      So sorry to hear things are on a bit of a downer for you at present.  Life is like that some times.  Here's hoping things will improve for you in the near future.  Keep writing (and making us smile) both here and elsewhere on the web!
                      Now Soon !

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                         mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         Cheers Rik, I hope you are right
                         
                         Not writing on HP right now, but am working on my own vegetable growing website and learning loads about SEO etc in the process. Fascinating stuff! Planning to do more websites in the near future, but the learning curve is big. I have to say Eric Graudins has been a lifesaver on this, as what he doesn't know isn't worth knowing and he has been endlessly patient with me. Feels kind of good to have an independent website too, I highly recommend it. I have also published a number of articles on Xobba.com (Josh's site), Excerptz.com (Ryan's site) and Thisisfreelance.com (Oli's site), as well as Wizzley.com (which is incredibly similar to Hubpages but much newer). Going down the diversify route now to not take the risk of having 'all my eggs in one basket'.

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    Pcunixposted 13 years ago

    Mine has fallen back again.  I will give it a few more weeks..

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       TinaAtHomeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       And then what?

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          amandaDposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          start backlinking?

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             Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             And then remove the content and find a better home for it.
             
             But that's premature.  It's still too early to jump ship.

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                waynetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                If all else fails start backlinking.

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                Wayne Tullyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Yes backlinking is the way to go, try it, you might like it and succumb to it's traffic giving goodness!

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                amandaDposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Backlinking is the giver of life!

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    kmackey32posted 13 years ago

    My traffic is way up today...

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    Bard of Elyposted 13 years ago

    It all seems to be loading much slower and some images don't load at all since I agreed to the change!

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    joyfuldesignsposted 13 years ago

    Mine is better too, although not sure as good as pre-panda, only because I wasn't tracking.  Glad to see the upswing!

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    mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years ago

    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/79799#top
    
    Scary and worth reading. Seems loads of Hubbers are suddenly losing viewings rapidly... a new Panda run possibly???

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       mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Just noticed this link has already been posted by Rik Ravado, but well worth reading for anyone else who missed it.

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    Pcunixposted 13 years ago

    An interesting clip indicates that subdomains and even multiple related sites might still fall afoul of Panda:
    
    http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_18570069
    
    "Google says its low ranking of ShopCity sites is fair because the vast majority of its more than 8,100 local sites across the U.S. and Canada do not feature original content. ShopCity acknowledges that all but 44 of its sites do not yet have original content, and the company says it has asked the search giant not to crawl and rank those sites. But Google says it must consider the collective authority of the company's Internet properties, just as someone wouldn't judge a supermarket tabloid as superior to a national daily newspaper based on the accuracy of one story."
    
    I don't see how that company is conceptually different than what we have here - although there is the matter of 8,000 unoriginal parts vs. 44 original parts.  We might guess that if HP had a similar bad mix, this experiment would fail.  HP does not have that high a ratio - perhaps that would mean different treatment.
    
    Interesting to see that even with robots.txt exclusions, they still got penalized.

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    Susan Ngposted 13 years ago

    I've been seeing a lot of blue arrows and steadily decreasing traffic since I claimed my subdomain a couple of days ago. But I'm thinking it's just the transition phase. Hopefully things will get better once the ball gets rolling.

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    sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

    I made the change over on the 19th and there's still no real difference for me so far.
    (Except for the 23rd when I spiked like crazy)
    Still slightly less traffic and slightly more money.
    
    I've been afraid that the subdomain switch would cause Google to say "I saw what you tried to do there" and slap the sites back down again.

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    WoodsmensPostposted 13 years ago

    Haven't written a hub since May this is my results from subdomain and I haven't clicked on my hubs for editing only 1
    
    
    

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       Dorsiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Nice! Congrats! When did you switch to sub-domains?

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          WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Approximately 2 weeks ago, I think around the 19th, I switched the first day of the official release, The thread is called Subdomain Move Update : http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/78912 it feels almost normal now like it should be. That was one hell of a slap from google!!
          
          Its to bad so many couldn't take the heat and wait it out. Everyone has their own reasons for staying or going. The door seems to always be open.

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    thejeffriestubeposted 13 years ago

    So far, it's looking good. Google has indexed all of my Hubs in a matter of days, and Bing is not far behind. Yahoo needs some work though. As for visits, I stopped Hubbing in early June, and even coming back now, I can see a huge difference. Seems like this may actually work, only time will tell.

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       Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I only switched over today and I haven't seen much of a drop, although I pinged all mine straight after the URL's changed which probably helped..I know a bulk pinging tool see.
       I was having an excellent week this week as well, nearly up to pre-panda views, plus my hubscore was up to 98. We'll see if the views go up higher than pre-panda now Ive switched

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          kmackey32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I pinged mine too richie....

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             Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Did you ping them all individually? perhaps I will do them individually but I used pingdevice.com

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    cashmereposted 13 years ago

    I cant edit my text modlues in newhubs after I switched over to the subdomain.Anyone else having the same trouble?

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       mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I doubt the two problems are connected. Try emailing the team or see what happens tomorrow. Good  luck.

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    cashmereposted 13 years ago

    Its quite frustrating trying to write and not getting the text module to work. I just tried the pic module and that got saved...so maybe its something in the code for this particular module.

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    CennyWennyposted 13 years ago

    Thank you Hubpages for subdomains! My traffic is up 100% and rising. Now I have some motivation to finish off those half done Hubs. Hooray!

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    Reality Bytesposted 13 years ago

    I have noticed a dramatic increase in views.
    
    Good job Hubpages. 

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    The traffic on some of my hubs has dipped a little since my immediate switch to subs yesterday while others have risen, earnings have been good though

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    kmackey32posted 13 years ago

    Mine is also on the rise today...

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       waynetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Mine is also on the rise too and my hubpages also

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          Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Did you ping it as well Wayne?

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             waynetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Yes and it went ding dong when I did a ping! lol!

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                Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                pinging your ding dong can sting, especially if its on the rise

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                   Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   make sure you check for viruses too as well-yikes !

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                   waynetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   

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          kmackey32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          omg waynet... u ass

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             waynetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I know, I is naughty!

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    sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

    I posted this to another thread but here is the graph of my page views since I did the subdomain switch on the 19th of July.
    That was right at two weeks ago.
    
    
    
    Meh.

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    Eaglekiwiposted 13 years ago

    Do you ping each individual hub or just your subdomain website?

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       Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I have been doing both, with pingdevice.com

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          kmackey32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Never heard of that one....

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          Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Ok great thanks.

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    Sally's Troveposted 13 years ago

    For the first time since changing over to the subdomain in mid-July, today my traffic hit a little more than half what it was pre-Panda (end of February). I guess that's progress, considering post Panda my traffic dropped to about 30% of what it was. This is nothing to write home about.

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       IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Sally. have you written summaries for all your hubs? Have I asked this before? Sorry if I have, my memory isn't too good at times.

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          Sally's Troveposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Izzy, my Hubs are up to or above par in every way (according to HP standards), including having captivating summaries that would show up on a Google search to lead searchers to take the plunge. There is absolutely nothing that I have ever done to step away from the platform HP promised, then or now. The fact of the matter is, that HP took a dive and many of us got sucked under with it, sort of like the Titanic.
          
          And, like the Titanic, some survived. But they survived despite the Titanic, not because of it. I think that speaks volumes.

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             wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Wow!  Knowing Izzy, I doubt that her comment was designed to indicate that your work is substandard.
             
             Rather it is in reference to a recent change from HP.  They used to pick up the first few lines from a hub and make it the summary if you didn't write a specific one.  Many of us made sure that those first few lines would also make a good summary and let it go at that.
             
             Now, however, if you don't write one you are depending on Google to find one and that doesn't always work well.

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                Sally's Troveposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I know all that, wilderness, and Izzy does, too. I'm not finding fault with anyone. None of this is personal. It's just the way it is.

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    Adsense stats seem to have been at a stand still for a few hours :S dunno if its due to my sub domain switch but Adsense stats have been known to freeze and re-update later on

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       kmackey32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       yea mine havnt changed in a few hours....

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          Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Pheww, thought it was just me

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             kmackey32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             nope.......

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    HP is on the way back. They are now listed as Number 116 US rank, as opposed to the low of 133 they reached just a couple of weeks ago. I am sorry, I am just trying to help. Most people seem to be reporting a rise in traffic - your hubs are good, they should be rising too.

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       Sally's Troveposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I think HP is doing the best they can do to keep their business afloat. While they do that, there are many things you and I will never know. And that is how it should be, mostly. No responsible business reveals its bottom line strategies to their public stakeholders, when they are in trouble or not.
       
       So, I don't know where HP is going, but I do like the platform they created for "writers". What matters to me is that my stuff on HP gets an audience and also a potential for putting sheckles in my pocket.

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       Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Good news How long did it take for your traffic to rise?
       
       I don't think all mine have re-indexed yet, though many that didn't usually perform are getting twice as many views lol

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          kmackey32posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Cool....

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          IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Just a few days - 4 or 5 I think. But my best performing hubs came through first, and they shot up in views

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             Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I'm worried about the redirect backlinks lol, how long before they are found?

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                IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                As soon as your hub is re-indexed.

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          wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          It took me longer than Izzy - around 5 days to get them all indexed and them several more days before I saw an impressive gain.  From seeing others results, I think my experience is more common than Izzys was.

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             Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Just searched for my best hub on Google and its not there yet lol, wondered why the views slashed in half after a great week last week..at least I know why
             
             Just dropped all my hubs in bulk ping again just to remind Google

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                wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Yep - that's why.  My best hubs were among the last to re-index, which was really quite irritating.   It was all my duds that re-indexed early on and while they got a little traffic it in no way made up for the loss as the good ones slowly de-indexed one after the other.  Yahoo and Bing still don't have them all, either.
                
                Good luck with the ping - I did it too but don't think it helped much.

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                   Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   One of my mediocre hubs that gets around 10-15 has re-indexed and received 26 views in 24 hours which looks promising..its on page 2 for its keyword

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             Amanda Severnposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             
             My hubs finally made it back to pre-panda levels. Hooray! For the first week I noticed very little difference, then over the last four or five days the improvement has been steady, and this morning there is a very gratifying increase in traffic. I hope it continues!

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    niquanettwilsonposted 13 years ago

    what

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    niquanettwilsonposted 13 years ago

    me to i like that

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    My best hub has been making all the money for the last year and a half but it hasn't been reindexed yet, I only switched Sunday..I'm trying a trick to get it re-indexed again..hope my traffic returns soon
    Had an amazing week last week as well, suppose I would of had to switch eventually anyway.

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       Eleanor's Wordsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I'm sure it will be soon Richie. Just think, it should be worth it in the end

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          Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Thats what I'm thinking, thanks for the encouragement
          
          Izzy, which tool are you using to see which are indexed? I noticed one of my old hubs which wasn't getting anything has had 15 organic views from Google today

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             IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Well if it had 15 organic views, it must be indexed! lol Just go to Google and type in site:username.hubpages.com
             
             https://encrypted.google.com/#sclient=p … p;pdl=3000
             You have 35 indexed Richie

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                Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Izzy you are such a gem ,helping people out here!
                
                I think my hubs are indexed ,at least they show now -wheres as a week ago ,only one or two were showing -plus all HP enries ,that had the word 'eaglekiwi' in (not sure I liked that part) lol
                
                But what I wanted to ask you was, how can I tell the worth of a particular hub? is that graded? and does it show.
                Also there is a lil box, +1 to the right ,if I hold my mouse over it ,message says 'Share'..
                Do you use that function?
                
                In anticipation ,thankyou

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                   IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Sorry I have no idea about Google's +1 and stuff.
                   
                   Nor do I know how to tell the worth of a hub - but this link is quite handy
                   
                   http://www.woorank.com/en/www/eaglekiwi.hubpages.com

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                      Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Wow!!!! Izzy shiver me timbers!!
                      
                      Boy do I have some work to do.
                      
                      Thankyou,felt like I just bought home my school report card,all those h e l p emotions 

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    waynetposted 13 years ago

    Traffic has increased for now and strangely coinciding with my own blog that has jumped up in traffic quite considerably too.

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    My traffic dipped a bit last week after the high of that first week, but I'm pleased to note it's climbing again

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    Eleanor's Wordsposted 13 years ago

    Yes, traffic for me is really good this week. After a short dip it has climbed again and I am happy.

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    Janet21posted 13 years ago

    I'm back! Huge increase this morning after changing over on the 25th.  Looks good

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       Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Good for you Janet!
       
       My traffics been good ,but nobodys clicking -wahhhh.
       
       Think instead of pinging ,I should just get out there and put some detour signs up

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    Ritsosposted 13 years ago

    I'm not having any success at all ... In fact I've just checked and not a single one of my hubs has been indexed despite me changing to the subdomain ages ago .. I know for a fact that at least some of them were indexed a while after but not now  .. if anyone wants to double check that would be great
    
    site:ritsos/hubpages.com

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       IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       44 of your hubs are indexed - https://encrypted.google.com/#sclient=p … p;pdl=3000
       
       Edit - which is really good considering you only have 37!

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          Ritsosposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          That's weird .. wonder why I couldn't see it then ... thanks anyway Izzy :-)
          
          Not sure where the extras came from and can't really be bothered to check if I'm honest .... Giving it a bit of a go with new hubs now that are aimed at long tailed keywords right at the bottom end of teh search scale so will see how it goes.

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             IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             You had a slash instead of a dot after ritsos in the link you put up.

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                Ritsosposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                doh !!!! thanks

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