The Subdomain Switch ...What's Happening with you?

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   Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

   43 blue down arrows.  The most I've ever experienced and on my most trafficked hubs, no less.  Gotta laugh! 

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   Mutiny92posted 13 years ago

   A 75% drop in traffic overnight. I was hoping there was a glitch in HP's tracking today. I am at an all time low.  I really am still crossing my fingers that there is a bug somewhere.

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   Will Apseposted 13 years ago

   My second account is only 40 or so hubs and all are keyword driven Amazon pages.
   
   That account plunged from around 250 views a day to around 50, overnight.
   
   My main account, this one, is doing very well and there are no losses in traffic at all.
   
   I am starting to think that this personal brand thing should be taken seriously. I am also thinking of writing some very worthy hubs about subjects I care deeply about.
   
   I will definitely stop handing out advice on how to be a diligent content farmer.

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      Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm taking it very seriously.

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   thejeffriestubeposted 13 years ago

   Paul, thank you for taking notice of this thread. Good luck on your research, oh , and feel free to take a peek at mine, Shouldn't take you long. LOL

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   WoodsmensPostposted 13 years ago

   Page views took a plunge today hmmm could be market driven. People are more concerned with checking their portfolios to see how much money they have lost in their  retirement funds, pensions and stocks, lets hope all rebounds and they go back to general search in the next few days.

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   Elijah Sposted 13 years ago

   hmm... I just had a weird hunch: could the sudden traffic drop be related to the en masse compulsory transition to subdomains? August 10th was set as the final day for the switchover, wasn't it?
   
   Perhaps google is reacting to another broad scale change in "site architecture," as the team calls it.

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   thejeffriestubeposted 13 years ago

   That sure is an interesting hypothesis. That would mean widespread destruction, I mean, realignment.

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      janderson99posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The 6" Sub

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         janderson99posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         As we live a life of ease(life of ease)
         Every one of us(every one of us) has all we need,(has all we need)
         Sky of blue,(sky of blue) and sea green,(sea of green)
         In our yellow(In our yellow) subdomain (subdomain) ( Haha! )
         
         We all live in yellow subdomain,
         yellow subdomain, yellow subdomain,
         We all live in yellow subdomain,
         yellow subdomain, yellow subdomain.
         
         Down Periscope! Ignore this stuff
         The Google Dance is not worth watching.
         
         Dive! Dive! Dive!
         
         Write more Hubs!

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            Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            In this case, it's a yellow hubmarine! 
            
            Nope, not writing any more hubs until things settle down. 
            
            I have better fish to eat...er..fry.

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               Paul Edmondsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               @randygodwin. I'll look closer at your account, but through yesterday it looks like you are within a range of your typical traffic pattern.

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                  Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Right, Paul.  I had the highest adsense earnings in about a year last night.  But now I'm now down to less than one third of my normal views today.  Blue down arrows galore!  Check today's stats and you'll see what I mean.
                  
                  But thanks for taking the time to check and for addressing this issue.  I'll keep watching.   

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   Will Apseposted 13 years ago

   The Googlebot seems to be assessing every sub domain and applying penalties on the basis of characteristics it doesn't like. If that is the case, we need to know what those characteristics are.
   
   My personal experience suggests that too many pages that have all the characteristics of content farming means you are hit hard.
   
   I reckon there is a lot more going on but that is the first thing I would look at.

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   FloraBreenRobisonposted 13 years ago

   interesting note-I switched to my subdomain earlierthis month-not this past week. For the fierst time since I joined hubpages two months ago, according to the weekly newsletter-and I believe it-my hub views actually decreased. And by quite a percentage-19%. wow.

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    MyMastiffPuppiesposted 13 years ago

    I was really excited to see how my traffic rose to pre-panda after the sub-domain switch but today... I have over 45 down arrows and only one red. I would really love to fix the problem if it something we can do but until I know what to fix, all I can do is wait.
    
    I see there are many great hubbers also feeling this huge drop but somehow not being alone is not really comforting.

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    psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

    WOW my traffic just tanked.  I have been 100-200 a day for pretty much forever.  Today: less than 40.  What's going on?

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       wordscribe43posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Oh my gosh... me too.  I've never had a worse day.  1/4 of what it was yesterday!  I am floored.  So worried.

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    Aficionadaposted 13 years ago

    Over the past week my stats have been weird - mostly the same pretty low level that I've seen ever since Panda (with a slight uptick after the subdomain switch), but with two very noticeable upward spikes, including one yesterday. 
    
    I've been trying to analyze whether my activity on Google-Plus could have played a role in the welcome spikes.  Other than that possibility, I had honestly wondered whether the stats were experiencing some kind of glitch - slowing down for a while, then updating very suddenly. 
    
    But hearing of what's happening to everyone here, neither of those theories seems plausible.

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    michifusposted 13 years ago

    Thanks Randy for the redirect...
    
    Yep, Ive lost two thirds of my traffic in the last 24 hours. Most of my hubs appear to have been dropped by Google.
    
    Ive never seen so many blue triangles.

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    wordscribe43posted 13 years ago

    My profile PR went from a 1 to an n/a, too.  Weird and VERY discouraging.  Things were GREAT when I first switched to the subdomain and stayed great.  Then, out of nowhere WHAMMO!  Bye bye traffic.
    
    Anyone else see a change in profile page rank?
    
    I don't think I can take much more of this nauseating roller coaster ride.

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I dropped from a PR4 profile to zero, does that count?
       
       Now the good news!
       Many of my hubs have gained back their PR, and my profile is up to a PR3, so I expect to be back to full strength soon. My numbers are slowly improving as well as my earnings.
       It has been a rough road all the same. I have made a few small changes to my hubs just in case it helps.

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          wordscribe43posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Okay, well I'm going to go cry now.  I WAS so optimistic, too.  I have never seen such a sea of blue on my account page. 
          
          I'm glad things are improving for you though, Earnest.  I'll just wait it out.

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             earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             You are a fine writer, and I feel confident it will improve again for you soon.

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                wordscribe43posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks, Earnest.  I will be patient...  Good to see you, by the way. 

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                   earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   and you! I must get back to the odd limerick, I enjoyed Paraglider's little thread!

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                      wordscribe43posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Oh, me too.  Some of the best times I've had on HP!  Is that thread still alive?  You, me and shoot... Marko/Marco... can't remember the name. Shame on me.  Funniest guy, too.  He was Australian, I think.
                      
                      Marcofratelli!!!  I got it.  HILARIOUS.  Ghost, too.

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                         earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         I'm gonna dig it up! I may have been the Australian.

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                            wordscribe43posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            Yes, you and marcofratelli... the funny Australians.  I think I must enjoy the Australian sense of humor.  I might have been born in the wrong country.

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          Will Apseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I reckon this is a bit more serious than a simple up and down on the path forward.
          
          You should have a look at some of the gloomier comments. Not everyone is suffering but those who are, are suffering far bigger falls than previous Panda outings have caused.

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    michifusposted 13 years ago

    nokiajsm - you are an arse of the highest order. Spam somewhere else

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    Spacey Graceyposted 13 years ago

    Just popping in to today hi, and I've lost 75% of my post sub-domain traffic. Now running at 10% of the traffic I had pre-Panda. Hoping its temporary.
    
    Not looking for answers - don't have time to fix up my hubs anyway, but didn't want the other traffic losers to feel lonely.
    
    In a Micheal Jackson Heal The World style: 'You are not alone, Google hates me too'.

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       wordscribe43posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I'm sorry you're going through it, too. 
       
       The Michael Jackson reference is priceless.    Hope things improve for us all.

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    BobbiRantposted 13 years ago

    This sub domain appears to be an utter failure, unless of course you use HP advertising. For several days I wasn't even showing up on Google.   I write more often elsewhere as I see HP becoming a failure.  Coincidence?  Sure it is!

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       Uzdawiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Maybe, it would have not been a failure, if instead of usernames, we would have seen topics in the sub domain.

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          BobbiRantposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I agree because people search by topic,not our names.

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    CMHypnoposted 13 years ago

    After going up a bit and then spiking back over 500 for the first time post-panda (I used to get 700-800 daily pre-panda with fewer hubs), I woke up to traffic views of 130.
    
    How many blows are we supposed to take? The crap and the dross still needs to be removed from this site, but I suspect that now everyone has retreated into their own subdomains and have stopped hub hopping.
    
    I love writing hubs, spend hours researching my hubs and they are not poor quality, but I really am starting to feel that I am wasting my time here

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    Ritsosposted 13 years ago

    Just when I'd started a couple of new accounts focussed on nichees too and had written a few hubs .. guess it's back to the 'post elsewhere' strategy until we know what is really happening.

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    Mikeydoesposted 13 years ago

    My traffic is up and down, two extremes.
    
    People who call this a failure:
    
    It is way to early to say, calling this a failure in times like this is off base and completely not correct. It does suck, but give it time and work on other stuff, or make more hubs.

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       BobbiRantposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Making more hubs just pulls my personal hub score down, down,down!

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    Mutiny92posted 13 years ago

    well, shoot.   I had hoped that this was a glitch in the stats counter, but my HP Ad earnings are down over 75% as well...this dropped me a lot lower than Panda did.  The Phantom Panda?

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       Happy Humanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Same here.....I went from approximately 500 -600 views a day to 130...massive plunge!   Blue arrows all over the place! What the heck is going on?

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    Spacey Graceyposted 13 years ago

    

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    vietnamvet68posted 13 years ago

    HP has failed in all respects. That is why everyone is leaving in droves. No one wants to stay on a sinking ship and HP is sinking fast, that is why I too have jumped over before it sinks.

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       Uzdawiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I disagree. HP could have done worse. It is a chance that this is just a temporary setback. And referring hubpages as a sinking ship is a bit exaggerated.

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          vietnamvet68posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          NO, not at all, Hubpages is a SINKING SHIP whether you believe it or not. Your little red and blue arrows don't mean anything. HP is blowing smoke big time......

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    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    13 blue arrows. 10 red arrows. Traffic stable so far. Perhaps there's some manual (man)handling going on, as there appears to be no correlation from one hubber to the next.
    
    Wish I had a better answer.

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       shabarigirishposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       My stats shows 19 blue arrows and ONE red arrow.
       
       
       
       That one red arrow is below my stats and it is followed by " = traffic rising "
       

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          michifusposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          That's not bad! it looks like 43/88 of my hubs have all but disappeared from Google overnight! First page to out of the top 100. God knows what happened yesterday, but something certainly appears to have gone on.
          
          Fortunately my hosting went down taking all of my sites with it, so hubpages has been the least of my worries. Never rains but it pours I guess!
          
          Maybe traffic will return and its a little blip, but I am a little concerned, as I have not had traffic this low since I first started on hubpages!

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             mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Did you change to a subdomain yesterday, as if so it takes time for your hubs to reindex on Google?

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                Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                That surely cannot be it, Misty.  I changed over the very day it was allowed.  I also never suffered much from any of the previous Panda boinks.  Google seems to have chosen some of us at random to make an example of.  An example of what, I don't know! 

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                   mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   I wasn't thinking so much of the traffic in Michfus's case, more of the fact the hubs had vanished from Google overnight.

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                      Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      My best hub-#2 on a generic Google search behind my #1 similar Blogger article a few days ago-is nowhere to be found in the first 15 pages.  My Blogger post dropped down to the top of page 2.  All overnight it seems, as I had my best earnings and great traffic when I retired for the night Tuesday.

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                         IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         Just checked and my blogger blog that was doing well has dropped back from #2 to #6. I notice yahoo answers is rising in several searches. There has to have been an a Google update or something.

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                            Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            It seems that way, but I can't figure out why some are affected and some not.  This is killing me, as this is my peak earnings season with last year's earnings peaking during August and September.  Starting to copy some of my hubs for Kindle publishing just in case.  I'm tired of dealing with Google.

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                               Fiction Tellerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                               Yeah, what's odd is that so many good writers are getting hammered across the board.
                               
                               What's also odd is that the web is not teeming with talk about this algorithm update, if that is indeed what it is.

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       vietnamvet68posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       in your dreams

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          Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          So, if you know why certain Hubber's views are down and others up, why not share your apparent insight?

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    CASE1WORKERposted 13 years ago

    Stable in overall numbers, but then I only went up 30 per cent on the sub domain switch.
    I think it needs to be looked at over a thirty day period before any decisions are made.
    Just checked traffic sources- google.com has halved but google Uk still strong- my cut in google traffic has been matched by an increase in facebook traffic that has had more views today than in the last three months!

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    Mikeydoesposted 13 years ago

    Give it time, give it time.
    
    Lol, I'm thinking that could be my problem.

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    tajamul khanposted 13 years ago

    hi

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    tajamul khanposted 13 years ago

    hi

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    viking305posted 13 years ago

    This is so demoralising.  My views have just dropped dead since a few days ago.  Have lost over 700 to 900 a day. 
    
    What IS the reason?  Any one know?

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    I hope this doesn't happen to me, my hubs seem to be holding steady and traffic has been the highest its ever been, traffic doubled + after sub domain switch

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       Uzdawiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       When did you make the switch?

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          Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          nearly 2 weeks ago

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             Uzdawiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             It is weird though, Alexa and Quantcast do not show a major decline in traffic. In fact, like you said, according to Quantcast traffic is increasing. I quess we will just have to wait until Alexa and Quantcast update. However,  the percentage of traffic that is going to the most successful ( and by that I mean traffic) hubbers has increased, don't know if their absolute traffic is increased though, compared to stats found here : http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/80305

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                Spacey Graceyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Quantcast hasn't updated with yesterday's stats yet. Got another couple of hours to go.

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    Ms Chievousposted 13 years ago

    My stats are still falling this morning.  At least yesterday I was able to rake in a few cents from HP ads and sell four items on Amazon.
    I hope something positive happens today.  I have been working hard on getting hubs ready for the fall..

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       Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, Christmas is definitely best for Amazon, although I never sell anything else all year around on Amazon. Adsense rose last Christmas as well.

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    Spacey Graceyposted 13 years ago

    Mine has bottomed out now - stayed the same for about 3 hours - just 25% of what it has been normally. Ouch. Not really seeing a pattern to the winning and losing hubbers.

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    sofsposted 13 years ago

    The fall seems to continue.. almost back to the same levels after panda

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       Eleanor's Wordsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Same for me, only it is far worse than post-panda. In fact, today so far sees the worst traffic ever, I'm almost expecting no views at all if it carries on

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       Karen Nposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       This is certainly depressing!
       Seeing a lot of blue triangles this morning, guess its time to get back to my own sites!

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    Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

    Yep, continuing to fall this morning.  Should be down to zero views by this afternoon at this rate.  What a clusterf**k this is!  Surely someone knows something? 

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    When did everyone with falling traffic make the switch to subdomain?
    
    I made the switch on the same day Paul announced it was open to all after the beta test - mid July, can't remember the date.
    
    Lily Rose was in the earlier beta group and she saw a fall after the initial rise, I believe.
    
    Others here, like Ritchie, who changed recently, are holding on or still rising .
    
    Just wondering if there is a correlation there?

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       Uzdawiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       There probably is. I made the switch about the same time as Richieb799, maybe few days earlier.

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       Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I can't see how there could be a correlation if we all have separate sub domains

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          Uzdawiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I know that you are one of the few who doesn't use HP Ads, maybe that has something to do with it.

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             Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I've never used HP Ads on my hubs.  Nope, something else.
             
             But at the least we are exempting some possible explanations from the picture.

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                Uzdawiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I quess we will just have to wait until Quantcast updates, and then compare HP to other similar sites.

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          IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I meant time wise. Maybe after you have have your subdomain for a certain length of time, 3/4 weeks in my case, Google runs a bot over it and re-ranks your hubs?

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             Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             hmm..I don't know, I seem to have all the traffic I used to have from Ask and Search.Babylon.com etc back and this was pretty high numbers as well. I'm ranked 2nd on Ask for my best hub.

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          Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Simple.
          
          When you start a new website, it has a "honeymoon" period, when it can get a lot of traffic from Google.   At some point, Google will decide the honeymoon's over, and drop your domain back to where it considers appropriate. 
          
          Our sub-domains are all effectively brand new websites - our Hubs have lost all their "age" - so that will affect their rank in Google's eyes.
          
          I've seen it happen when I've started new websites. I got really excited when I started my Tribal website and it just flew for the first month - then the traffic died and it's never been the same since.
          
          Several of us were cautioning everyone not to get excited about the rise in traffic early on, for precisely this reason - we were all in the honeymoon period.
          
          I switched to the sub-domain later than any of the people reporting a drop in traffic.  I haven't seen any drop yet.

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             janderson99posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I think its more like the 'second honeymoon' - as those who converted to subdomains early have been through this traffic crash before, and now its happening again. I still think it has been caused by the August 10 shift of the remaining hubs to domains. The worry is how this will affect the ranking of the home URL and linking structure. I'm hopeful traffic will bounce back once Google 'gets over it'. Otherwise its the 6" sub.

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                Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Are you saying that the early adopters have already had one traffic crash since they converted to a sub-domain?  Or did they just get a dip while Google re-indexed their Hubs?

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                   janderson99posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   My traffic crashed after I made the sub-domain change as soon as it was announced (I was not one of the early birds), and stayed low for two week or so after they were all re-indexed (took 3 days). Traffic has gradually recovered. I have not yet been affected by the latest hit, though I am planning my second honeymoon!

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             Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             My hubs didn't have any big increases after the change.  My traffic was fine before the change and only increased a small bit because of the usual time of year my hubs relate. 
             
             I already had hubs at the top of the searches.  I assume I should not have changed over, but thought it was not an option as everyone would change eventually.
             
             So why did my hubs stay up during the Panda slaps but fall at this particular time? 

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                Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                That could be consistent with the notion that your Hubs have lost "age" now they're on a brand new sub-domain.
                
                I switched because I figured I was going to have to do it anyway, so why not get it over with.  It has helped my traffic so far but I'm not drawing any conclusions yet, due to that aforementioned honeymoon effect.

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                   Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   So, does this mean we're all screwed?  I suppose we'll know when everyone else bites the dust, right, Wright? 
                   
                   
                   
                                                  
                   
                   
                   
                   Misery loves company

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                      Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      I think it's too soon to say that!  I'm just trying to make educated guesses.  We have three possible scenarios suggested so far:
                      
                      1.  Google is treating our brand new sub-domains exactly the way they would any brand new website:  which means good traffic during the honeymoon period, then a drop, then as our site ages, it will get back up to a decent ranking again.
                      
                      That option makes a lot of sense to me - our sub-domains ARE brand new sites as far as Google is concerned because all the URL's are new. We're getting some benefit from the 301 redirects from our old Hub URL's but that doesn't make up for it entirely.
                      
                      OR
                      
                      2.  Google treated our sub-domains like brand new standalone websites initially, but because HubPages has such a strong cross-linking system, Google has decided we're not genuinely standalone - we're still part of the big HubPages site which still has too much cr@p on it, so they're penalizing us for that.
                      
                      That's a scary theory if it's true, as that would mean we are screwed.
                      
                      OR
                      
                      3.  Something to do with the new Google ranking signal, Google+ etc.  But if that theory is true, why are some of our websites roaring along without it, while Hubs tank?

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                         Aficionadaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         I believe the world is full of complex answers and complex systems. [ETA: That sounds rather pompous, doesn't it?  So sorry!]  I think the truth includes a bit of all of the options you have mentioned already.  Remember, Google's algorithms take into account over 200 different factors, and they are weighted differently.  So maybe what you have said about all three points is true - but then (maybe) there have been some boosts from other causes.
                         
                         Also, among the Hubbers that have mentioned they have not seen a drop or have seen an increase, I'm pretty sure some of them signed up for their subdomain later than the others (with traffic fall-off) did - so they would still be in the honeymoon period.

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                            Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            It could very well be, although as the drop has been quite sudden for those affected, I'm thinking there's likely to be one major cause.
                            
                            
                            
                            Yes exactly, that's why I included my Option 1 - that we're dealing with the normal progress of a new domain, and those whose traffic is dying are just at the end of their "honeymoon".
                            
                            I'm not an expert by any means, I'm just basing that theory on my own experience.  I've recently had a very similar experience with a new website.  I decided to move my eBay affiliate "shop" off my Australian belly dance site because I felt it would do better on an internationally targeted site.  I did 301 redirects from my Aussie site to the new pages on the new site (just like HubPages did with our original Hubs), and I added new content.
                            
                            All seemed to be going well for the first few weeks, but it's now getting virtually no traffic from Google.
                            
                            So although the 301 redirects may be passing "link juice" from the old URL's, they haven't protected my website from the usual honeymoon/crash scenario.

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                            mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                            Not me, I signed up within about 24 hours of the subdomains being available, and my traffic is still up.

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                               Aficionadaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                               Cool ... and good for you!  Hubberworld is bound to be envious.
                               
                               It's good to get some gaps filled in around my "some of them" comment.
                               
                               Are you on HP ads or Adsense only?  What about Amazon capsules, affiliates, etc.?  What about outgoing links or links to other Hubbers - or to your own other Hubs?
                               
                               Any ideas of your own as to what is helping to keep your numbers high?

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                                  mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                  I am on HP Ads only right now, and I do use Amazon and Ebay but not with any major effort (to the degree I have never hit payout on either in my entire time on HP, which is over 3 years now). I should add I hit payout on HP ADs around 2 weeks into each month though.
                                  
                                  I cannot say why my traffic is up, only speculate, e.g. I write on other sites too under the same pen name, I have my own website, I am deleting 'suggested links' from Hubs I edit etc. To be honest I have no idea, and these are merely guesses!

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                                     Aficionadaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                     That's actually very intriguing.
                                     
                                     There have been some more ideas tossed around since earlier today that sound like real possibilities.  I also like the idea you shared.  I myself have been trying to double-check all of the links I created when I went wild with the Link Suggestion Tool - wanting to make sure that I keep those that do have value, but no more than those.
                                     
                                     I'll look forward to hearing more reports as this Googly proceeds.  [I learned a new word!]  I hope it gets straightened out very soon.

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    girly_girl09posted 13 years ago

    Ahhhhh! I came on here after checking yesterday's earnings - a mere .17 cents! Traffic is down to 555 views???!!??? Down from 2500. Obviously my time here is done. This is insane.

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    Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

    It is Google, no doubt.  My most trafficked hubs are now almost void of Google traffic while Yahoo and Bing are supplying many of my views.  I'm about ready to tell Google to cram it!

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    mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years ago

    My traffic is still slightly up on normal, no significant change to the amount it was up by yesterday, Approximately equal numbers of red and blue arrows.

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    brandonhart100posted 13 years ago

    I made the switch same day... I now have around 25%-30% of what I had when I started the switch and am now only at 66% of the traffic I had before I made the subdomain switch... really bad

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    Spacey Graceyposted 13 years ago

    I switched about 2 weeks ago.

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    Ms Chievousposted 13 years ago

    I have HP ads so that is not it.  I also made the switch over to subdomain as soon as I was able.. must have been about a month ago..stats are still low.  I had such a great surge in traffic on  Tuesday too,,

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    Janet21posted 13 years ago

    I don't want to speak too soon, but it appears that I may have finally hit bottom and the free fall has come to an end.   I haven't lost any additional traffic since last night.  Official stats:  traffic is down 65% from my high.

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    psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

    Whatever it is, it certainly kills my motivation to write any more hubs. Down to around 30 views a day.  Not enough to be worth it.

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    Fiction Tellerposted 13 years ago

    Have people's hubs been deindexed? Or have they just lost ranking?

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       IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Mine have lost ranking, but there is a huge difference in being #1 or 2 and becoming #7 or 8.

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I saw a big drop last week, but strangely enough I also found a dozen + hubs on the first page of a search.  Most of my hubs got ranked as well, to about what they were pre-panda or a little better.  Nothing de-indexed.
       
       The drop last week made me wonder, if the ranking is the same or better, if views in general were down for some reason - holiday or something I didn't know about.  Maybe vacation season?

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    OK, its not time related, its Google related, completely.
    
    Richie's hubs are not affected because his traffic is not coming from Google but from other search engines.
    
    Would anyone else whose traffic has remained constant or risen like to report where their traffic is coming from?
    
    Just if it's Google or not, will be enough.

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       Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I did say earlier, in case you missed it Izzy.  Formerly, the vast majority of my traffic came from Google.  Now, Bing and Yahoo are sending the same or more views as Google. 
       
       
                          
       
       
       Edit:Oops Izzy, misunderstood your question.  Never mind! 

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       My traffic, rising the last couple of days, is mostly google.  2/3 google.com, 1/6 yahoo+bing, <1%HP, about 1/6 my own subdomain and a scattering of others.

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          TamCorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I am trying to find those figures for my hubs--can someone please tell me where to go for them? 
          
          My traffic is actually better these last few days...not fantastic, by any means, but above what it has been.

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             TamCorposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Sorry--I just saw that Wilderness answered someone else's question about that, while I was posting this!

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       WriteAngledposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I have no idea how to find this information apart from counting the stats on each individual hub.

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          wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Go to "my account" and click on "traffic" in the big black box on the left.

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          mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Go into 'My Account' and click on 'My Traffic Sources', the information is there

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       Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       No its coming from Google as well, pretty high numbers..I just meant I'm getting a lot of traffic from everywhere
       
       
       
       That is up until yesterday, HP traffic obviously shows a few more hundred

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       Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       In answer to Izzy's post:   Most of my traffic comes from Google.   Some (but minor portion) from other search engines.  Really minor bit from other places.  Immediately after my switch (beta) mine went down to - like - 600/700 for a day.  Went way back up (and higher than than post-Panda-slap) after that.  I've seen ups and downs but stayed higher than pre-subdomain.  Big drop within the last week.  Went back up (I think) three days ago.  Minor drop over the last day.

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       mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Mine is coming from Google.com first, and Google.co.uk second if that helps.

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          Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I already clarified, a lot of my traffic is coming from Google, all I said is a lot is coming from other search engines as well.
          
          I'm interested to hear Paul mention only 30% has switched to sub domains, I knew there was a logical explanation.
          
          My traffic is still fine.

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             mistyhorizon2003posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I know Richie, but as Izzy asked for those of us with no traffic change or a improvement, to say where the traffic was coming from I answered her.

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    wildernessposted 13 years ago

    It's been pretty crazy.  A huge increase after the subdomain switch for over a week, then falling views for about another week down to about post Panda.
    
    This week, though, is bumped right back up to nearly the same level as just after the subdomains. 
    
    Traffic is really spikey, though - day to day varies by 50% or more.  I'm also seeing really strange comparisons from HP stats, adsense numbers and analytics.  I can't seem to make heads or tails out of the numbers - usually analytics is higher than adsense by quite a bit, but the next day it might be 20% lower.

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       Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Mine hasn't been very spikey.  Since I switched, I had the first "all time highs" for a few days.  Then it kind of settled into a "high range" but would, of course, vary a little.  Within the last week I had (I think) the first major dip (still higher than post-slap averages) for two/three days.  Now it's up to the "high range" (although lower than earliler, post-subdomain, high's by about 300.  More like 400 less than the post-subdomain "all-time high".  I'm still substantially higher than pre-Panda.  It seems to settle around one place for a few days before shifting up or down (usually not dramatically) and then staying in that new place for another few days (except for that drop that went on for a few days earlier this week but that appears reversed for now).

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    thejeffriestubeposted 13 years ago

    I'll admit it's pretty dismal looking at my stats today, but I'm not done with Hubpages just yet.

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    psycheskinnerposted 13 years ago

    My hub that used to be #1 for a three word phrase is now not to be found in the first five pages of results.

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    sabrebIadeposted 13 years ago

    The people from the "HubPages SubDomain Redemption!" thread really need to come over here and cheer everyone up.
    
    As for me, still steady since the change(July 19th).
    Maybe a 100 -200 view a day increase.
    And I am using Adsense and almost all of my traffic is Google, with Bing a close second.

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    CMHypnoposted 13 years ago

    My traffic views are sitting right down on 130 for the last 24 hours. I switched to the subdomain on the day it was announced and I run HP ads.  My traffic graph literally looks like something falling over the edge of the cliff.
    
    Before the subdomain switch, I had been slowly building Bing traffic, which I lost most of with the switch, although my Google traffic improved somewhat.  Traffic really improved at the beginning of the week, then crashed in around 12 hours.
    
    We hubbers who this has happened to need answers, because it is not poor writers who it is happening to, and there must be some quantifiable reason as to why some hubbers are being hit with Google hate and others aren't?

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       Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I thought my traffic had finally bottomed out, but I may only be in the 300+ views range in an hour or so.  This would be roughly an 80% drop in views in 24 hours.

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          Spacey Graceyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          After levelling out for a few hours mine is dropping again.

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I found that it took a really long time to index on on yahoo and bing and still have a few that are not.  Have your hubs been indexed fully yet?

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          CMHypnoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yes the hubs have all indexed on Bing and Yahoo, but the crash over the last 24 hours has been caused by losing around 75% of my Google traffic

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