The god of evolution
- CJ Simonelliposted 10 years ago
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God knows the power of meditation. He told us how to do it properly. "Our father, who art in heaven...THY will be done..." He knows how powerfully tricky the mind can get, "lean not unto your own understanding."
His way is correct. All other paths lead to destruction. Even the ones who think they serve God; but try to use his cover for their own ideas. Yes he loves us and wants no one to perish. That is why he gave us instruction on what right REALLY is. Those who have their FREE EAR will hear...
Nice.
you are having an experience I once had. The opening of the heart is what it takes. I'm glad you know. It is the brain that trips us up. The bible lets us know that we cannot rely on our own thoughts. They are the thing that keeps us from understanding what he meant.
For instance, he was not telling his followers to deny the admonition to do no work on the Sabbath by allowing his followers to pluck and eat; nor by fixing the withered hand. He said that it was good to do good on the Sabbath. "Who among you would leave your sheep in a ditch...???"
There was a method. He utilized the mind of God. It leads somewhere for sure. No circles. We must use the mind of God. We know it by the example of Jesus. If you believe as I...Yes! By all means, I do. This life is not for those who desire their own rationale. Followers use the mind of Christ. They have an assurance that he is right. No one, surely me, is suggesting that you let go of your rational senses. Not everyone can. It is a stronghold that conquers the ability to hear what thus says the Lord. The reason for that is reasonable. I mean, who can imagine a person being formed from dirt with blood, vessels to carry it, organs to sustain it and breath to give it life but God???
his world is SO large that human capabilities fail miserably in the comprehension arena. We just aint smart enough. Ask Eve.
The one thing that sets us apart from other animals, that gives us superiority over all (except maybe cockroaches
) is the huge brain that God gives us, and you're telling us to ignore what it says - that we cannot rely on what God's work tells us?
It's a different take on the matter for sure.Exactly Wilderness! I think you're getting it!!!
God knows how his work works. He knows its ability/inability much better than we can ever imagine. He knows what to say and do to get his points across. He knows that those with an ear that they put on themselves, will hear. Those who have closed their "ear" will not.
Thanks! You ARE brilliant.
Ever had an artichoke heart? Hey! But artichokes don't love. Hmmmmm... can you now figure what the spiritual heart is??? Oh! Artichokes don't have muscles either! (That's a hint)
Where does love come from???
PLEASE give me the answer I seek...I already have a response picked out...
He who is forgiven much; loves much also.
To whom much is given, much is required. (I gotta lotta faith )
Watering down the words is not faithful. I want to be pleasing to God; not man if he has other plans.
I fully appreciate your love for/to me.
He that is in us is greater.
Truly true truth.
I as a follower of truth see some parts of the theory of evolution to be in step with the way God created the world. The world lives breathes and grows to accomodate its inhabitants in a way, evolving. People have definitely had to evolve. Not from apes. But that's another story.- CJ Simonelliposted 10 years ago0
What you don't seem to get is how unpleasant and belligerent you're being while claiming Christ. You think you make good arguments, but they are weak. She points this out to you, but instead of being humble and considering that your debate methods need work, you attack her personally. "You're either for us or against us" is such an archaic statement. There are gray areas everywhere, even in Christianity.
I know it isn't directed at me, but I'm going to answer you, since apparently none of the other Christians are
1) If you believe in Christ and commit yourself to following him, you are a Christian. Period. The only fake Christians are ones pretending to follow Christ. And no, you can't tell them apart. No one can read their hearts except Christ. Anyone who presumes to have that ability better be ready to turn some water into wine.
2) Again, no one knows except Christ.
3) God is free to do just about anything he damn well pleases.
4) Anything is possible because of point three. No one knows the mind of God. That's why it's good to actually listen and take everything in, before he gets more pointed in teaching you a lesson he wants you to know.
- Emile Rposted 10 years ago0
- CJ Simonelliposted 10 years ago0
Wow. Sure glad God didn't leave you in charge of redeeming souls.
None of you are God. I can tell by the avatars.
Such an absurd question does absolutely nothing in deconstructing my assertions....and shows nothing but SHEER DESPERATION. Don't you know that this question has been asked in one form or another, time and time again, by believers.....in essence, pleading with us to give them the semblance of just a morsel of credibility?
How desperate!!!!
Yes. Another method employed by those people with questionable integrity is to personally attack the messenger. It appears that there may be some people who are just angry deluded "Christians" who become downright hateful if you don't allowed them to LIE for Jesus.
Hi, Jerami.
I don't mean to imply that we cannot, should not, or aren't sometimes called to discuss and debate things among our Christian family-or with our brothers and sisters of other or no faiths. I just think that if we are to be known as Christians by our love, we should spend more time showing that love than being concerned about reaching consensus on absolutely everything. Some of my dearest friends are devout believers. Others do not believe. Whether we are in agreement or not about anything matters little at the end of the day. That they know I love them (and that is evidence that God loves them) is what matters most to me.Whatever your take is on it, I believe that God is indeed the creator of ALL-making them no less his children than you or me. As the faithful older brother in the parable of the prodigal son, I understand your reluctance to accept that, but every child matters to a parent-not just the ones who are obedient at every turn. Also, never forget that there have been many times in the life of most believers-even AFTER they've come to know God-that their actions and words reveal anything but godliness. I'm more concerned about those moments in my own life than anyone else's. The same God who saved me wants to save everyone else-and he is the ONLY one capable of doing so. I'm certainly not, and, sadly, neither are you.
Peace.Again, this is not about me or you. It is about truth. Jesus delineated who the family is. The children think like the father says to. It is not my decision as the faithful son.
It is God's.
Truth; that's it. Read what Jesus said.
"...they that do the will of my father."
People like to have their own opinions about what right is; and what should or should not be acceptable. But Jesus drew a line.This is a discussion about evolution I think. Since it is based upon religion, this is my square. Yours too, obviously.
My knowledge of scripture comes from intense study and God-given revelation of what it means and how it fits together. I have no key that no one else has.
The mindset of scripture is spiritual. That's it; that's all. You must have the spirit (not ghost, but essense or mind) of God to understand it. Our own minds are SO finite.
You have my agreement there.
I love to discuss, but I'm not big on debate as a rule. And, I always believe that if a change is to be made, God can and will take care of it.Agree with that too.
We're on a roll.Paul's message was allowed into the book that was inspired by God??? He got a gold star from our king.
Paul instilled diversity? But he let the people know that Jesus would be of no advantage to the circumcised. That seemed to place Jew and Gentile on a level surface. However, that does not seem to make a big difference. Can you give me another example of the differences in their teaching. I've heard that before, I just never get a straight answer about said differences. Please help.
Now is a good time to practice the preach.
... What constitutes a hit with a hammer? The truth? Or a pretty lie?
What constitutes one's home-base? Who came to whom in our scenario? Am I offended? No. I hope that you are not.
I am not following you correctly if encouragement is your goal. but it is obvious that you do know what truth is. Are you willing to say???If we were interconnected, we would have the same thoughts. We would serve the same God. And we would be judged together.
We are created with no strings. Only a word.
We each have a responsibility toward that word given. We may take whatever route we fancy. But one road leads to life eternally. If you believe as I do...
God is not concerned with the rules that we came up with to show our solidarity to what we consider our greater good. He allows us to know that we cannot get it right without his thoughts in mind. We don't know enough to make our own rules. Ask Eve.
I think its a marvelous reason for why we need to look outside of self for the truth. There are an infinite amount of possibilities on the inside. We do not understand the repercussions of many of those inside thoughts. Ask Eve.
Our skin responds. If we eat bad, it shows. If we touch something bad, it shows. If we are not bathers, it smells
No lotions? It flakes. I once went through a 13+ year period where my palms and soles would break out in these horrible blisters. It went from a break out of one or two to a break out of hundreds. Pus and blood and itch beyond belief and cracking and lesions. And gloves and socks. No doctor could help. One day, after a series of events, I realized during constant prayer that my problem was the consumption of wheat. For many years I cried and was embarrassed and thought I would die with an unknown flesh-eating disease that no one knew about. The doctors gave me steroid creams and pills. God gave me the solution.No way!!!
it was my brain that sent me running to doctors who study this stuff; took a few looks and samples; and wrote prescriptions for potentially harmful materials that did NO good.
When I relaxed and allowed myself a talk with outside forces that live in me (because I asked and accepted) I received the answer. Fast... a biblical admonition. Within days my hands and feet got better. Soon; Bingo!!!
The Lord knew all along. My process was good for me. He knew that too. No more green, brown, red, AND yellow pustules that crack and itch to infirmity. And I KNOW who to attribute that to. Not me...No. Some secrets he tells no one. Some things you are not prepared to know. Some desires are trivial; unnecessary; and/or bad for you and or others nearby. We ask, wait, and trust unconditionally. God is not put in place for us; we are put in place for him. We must be followers of him. He MADE the "big picture".
He told us to ask, but not to ask amiss. Oh! And our answer should not be prearranged by us. He very often beats around the bush. LolDid you hear me say that even doctors (3 of them) who studied skin and made their life's work, healing were baffled???
Not one of them said, "it may be something you're eating..." My own brain looked to them; at one time waiting 3 months for an appointment. I had no clue. But I thought it was serious and that my hands and feet would rot away.
My God is responsible for my healing. You can give me the credit all you want. But I know. It is backed up by experience.
I listened to the spirit of God; and was healed.
So, you stopped taking the meds prescribed to you and afterwards heard voices.
Sounds like God alright.
"I come so they may have life, and that more abundantly."
"My yoke is easy, my burden light."
"Not one jot nor tittle shall pass from the law (listen closely) until all be fulfilled."
"Keep MY commands" emphasis mine
"You can't stone her, you aint right!"
Jesus gave them the right mind concerning the law. He told them how to believe about the laws.
"Why you washing the outside of the glass for? Your inside (out of the abundance of the heart; the mouth speaks) is filthy!" "It's not your intake that's messing you up; it's your output!".
Paul knew what that MEANT. That's why he made the cut. The bible is protected by the one who wrote it...The spirit of those words is probably way far from your understanding. I have gouged out my eyes and thrown them away many times. And I've lost all of my hands.
Right now, handling serpents and moving mountains. Literally.
Yes, we are unable to understand the written word unless we filter it through rose colored glasses.
It sure is funny what believers will say, nothing is left to integrity and honesty.
“Lying to ourselves is more deeply ingrained than lying to others.”
― Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Thanks!!!
Biblical correction is always welcome, expected, and clung to.
I have always been under the impression that spirit is spirit.
James 14:15...
“If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[c] in you.
So a Person lives within me??? Sounds weird.
Whenever you have time; we should discuss it.
I love each opportunity to grow and I appreciate spiritual check.
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Matthew 16:21-23
(21) From that time Jesus began to show to His disciples that He must go to Jerusalem, and suffer many things from the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised the third day. (22) Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!" (23) But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men."
New King James Version
Like Peter, we could be motivated to believe or disbelieve something, accept or reject something, say something or keep silent, depending on the circumstance. Additionally, we may have no reaction at all at the moment of communication, but the thought is stored and available for later use or supplementation. It is entirely possible for a person to go through his entire life as a pawn of Satan and never know it.
This situation reflects a usage of what the Bible's writers term "spirit." Spirit is the English translation of the Hebrew ruach (Strong's #7304), in the Old Testament and the Greek pneuma (Strong's #5141) in the New. It can literally mean "a current of air," "breath," "blast," or "breeze." However, when used figuratively, it indicates "vital principle," "disposition," "the rational soul," etc., or an invisible super-being such as God, Christ, an angel, or a demon. Whether used literally, as with "wind" or "breath," or figuratively, as indicating God, angel, or demon, it describes something that is invisible and immaterial and at the same time powerful, even a thing of considerable power. The foremost elements of spirit, then, are invisibility, immateriality, and power.
E.W. Bullinger remarks in Appendix 9 of the Companion Bible:
The meaning of the word is to be deduced only from its usage. The one root idea running through all of the passages is invisible force. . . . [i]n whatever sense it is used, [it] always represents that which is invisible except by its manifestations.
He also shows that ruach is used in nine different ways in the Old Testament, while pneuma is used fourteen different ways in the New Testament.
In John 6:63, Jesus says, "It is the Spirit [which] gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." Here is a clear example of the figurative use of "spirit." Words are the symbols used for communication; they are received into our minds through sight, as when reading, or sound, as when hearing. But once in the mind, nothing material is packed into our brain. Words - and thus the concepts they carry with them - are spirit because they are immaterial, invisible, and of considerable power, depending on how we use them. Thus, we can receive "spirit" in the form of words or concepts from a spirit being. In this case, it is in reality "thought transference" because no sound is heard through our ears.
Just because one is close to Christ does not eliminate the prospect that a demon will communicate with and through him. As seen in Matthew 16:22-23, Peter did the speaking, but Jesus spoke directly to Satan, naming him as the source of Peter's outburst against God's will that Jesus should suffer and die. Without Peter's recognizing it, he permitted himself to be a conduit for Satan's will. The disciple's "good" intention was against God's will, and Jesus thus judged it to be evil.
This was my daily verse from theberean.org
My email must come before the site posts; I could not post the link. I copied from email.
However, amazing how this happens right? its like someone watching over me... very often, a word that I have discussed here will come via thebearean.org or thedailyword via email also; the very same or next day! It amazes me. Maybe their Chief joins the forum.
So what do you think about my email?
Thanks. I hate argument.
Scripture rightly divided takes faith to know that it is right. And humility enough to speak it even whilst all others yell "OUCH" and start firing cannons without realizing why. But most of all, the spirit of God; which if denied is denied.
So, Jesus, in explanation of what scripture means, used PARAbles. He utilised the spirit of God to do so. And he left with us that same spirit to do so ourselves. what a wonderful gift. Which again is, if denied, denied.
Then one without the spirit of God starts making up his own stuff and changing the words to feel good and including madness into the will of God and adamantly suggesting that others do the same.
Truth is what we are after. Not fame. Not friends. Truth.What a weak, pathetic god you follow. Incapable of expressing itself properly it needs to have you translate what it said for us? How special you are.
Correction:
We need to translate the words for ourselves. He NEEDS nothing from us. The good of helping our brothers to translate properly is smiled upon.
Weak and pathetic...??? okSo - your god was simply not capable of expressing itself clearly. Would incompetent be a better description?
But thanks for explaining at me why you need to change what it says. I am always interested in why women feel they can go against the word of god and teach men what the bible really means.He explained himself clearly. Certain people are not privy, due to their own self-sufficiency, to the realization of his clear messages. I'm not special. Just needy. And he supplies.
Uh, the woman bashing is cute
Do it again...Sorry if you feel the word of god is bashing women. Guess you aren't reading it properly.
If it explained itself clearly - how come we need you to tell us what it actually means?
And how come the religionist on the other thread is saying you are translating it wrong and he/she actually has it right?The word of God does not bash women. It uplifts.
And it needs to be explained to those who have not yet said yes to his will alone.
The lady on the other thread who is correcting YOU on what I AM saying should be gracious enough to share the CORRECT message with ALL of God's children and never allow herself the guilt of standing by to watch one who is "lost" to find her way.
Please relay to the OTHER woman preacher on the OTHER forum who has YOUR blessing. I may need to speak with her. Thanks.Hope you are enjoying your "conversation" with RA.
Your in for a slippery ride!
PS, If you want some advice, walk away.
I submit to the fact that adultery is wrong. Where were you about ten posts ago?
I know where my leak is. I know how to fix it. 1. Submit to what is true. 2. Humbly admit your mistake to God. 3. Ask him to forgive you and provide his protection as you work with him to straighten crooked places. 4. Receive his blessing. 5. See him on judgment day with excitement because you know that he remembers that "thing" no more.
It's quite simple actually.
He wants us to look in the mirror of truth and NOT forget the image we saw...
Gosh! You DON'T get metaphor do you? Listen carefully. We are not on an elevator, and we are not speaking of a fart. The "offense" is in READING the words of Jesus; being severely convicted; and yelling, OUCH!
Do YOU understand??? lol
Lemme see...
Nope! My mouth was closed for a long time and still, you do not understand spirit.
So, let's take it from the top, shall we..
In the beginning, God... and I could stop right there. But there is much more that needs to be revealed.
You just WAIT til I get my new laptop...got some hubs...
The authors seem to think that the old, old "goddunnit" is somehow proof He exists.
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