Do you feel safer now?
- sandra rinckposted 14 years ago
0 - PrettyPantherposted 14 years ago0
Yes so just add another one to the list. I don't feel any safer.
I have seen that a couple times, what is it? Personal computer suicide? 
Certainly, there is cause for concern, but it is still isolated. The IRA had a concerted bombing campaign in and around my hometown, but we just got on with things.
Otherwise, the terrorists succeed in their aims - spreading fear and hatred
Hi Sweetie - Hope that life is treating you well and you had a great Xmas
I know the Hubs you speak of - I had some good, long conversations with Harvey and we both learned something, so that was cool. We disagreed about some things and agree about others, which is all part of good debate
Must admit, you can still have some great discussions on HP, away from the forums! That reminds me - I have not visited your Hubs for a while, so shall have to swing by
I didn't know about the e-mail, Sweetie - that is disappointing.
Fully agree with you, William - Islamic science and philosophy is a passion of mine. Without the Islamic scholars, we would know nothing of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle - the Muslims kept the flame alight and the Greeks are very grateful for that. Medicine, mathematics, engineering, agriculture - the list of innovations goes on and on
If I could travel back in time, the Houses of Learning in Baghdad would be my first port of call. Muslim, Jewish and Christian scholars from all over the known world, meeting and sharing ideasThe whole question was, what good has come out of Islam even for the innocent ones.
Perhaps you would clarify the question, if you don't mind - it is past 1am here, my brain is fuzzy, and I am not fully sure what you are asking
SweetiePie - Noted - thanks for the update and for the kind wordsSure - thanks for the clarification
I think that we have a different perspective - we had the IRA for a long time and learned not to judge an entire race or religion by the actions of a few extremists. The same with the Greeks and the Turks - the vast majority of Greeks and Turks get on just fine, but there are always the loud extremes who shout and try to create trouble.
I know many Muslims and they do not subscribe to this idea that everybody should submit to Islam, any more than most Christians do not believe in Biblical literalism of zionism. My life is shaped by people I meet and make friendships with, not the media's demonization of other cultures. I meet many Iranians in Greece, and they are not the fanatical demons that some of the recent rhetoric on HP implies.
It is a complex issue, but this idea that Muslims are standing by and letting extremists rule is not completely true (although there is some justification) - 60 million Pakistanis signed a petition proclaiming that terrorism was not in their name, yet there was little about that in the news. Sadly, there is so much politics involved in many Islamic nations and the religion is used as a form of control. For research, I have been speaking to young Muslims around the world, and I see a lot of hope. If you are interested, there are thousands of young Iranians and Saudis reaching out, with blogs and social networking - they see Americans and Europeans as friends, not enemies. They shared your grief at 9/11 and did not dance in the streets
A little tangent, from something I have been working on - women in Islamic nations, such as Iran, are not oppressed because of the Shari'a. It is because the conservatives in power fear women - that is why they make these laws to subjugate and control them. Personally, I think that something is brewing in Iran and revolution is around the corner - I just hope that it is peaceful, although that may be a forlorn hope
As for holy books - I am Christian, but hold little regard for literal interpretations of the Bible. If you look outside Saudi Arabia, most of the Islamic countries of the world are building democracies - in 50 or so years, they have come a long way, although there is still much work to be done. How long did it take the US and UK to build their democracies? Talking about laying waste the Islamic world and fearing Islam goes back to my earlier point - it lets the terrorists win by giving credence to the extremists. Ahmadinejad, aka the Poison Dwarf, has fabricated this entire diplomatic battle over nuclear weapons because he is using 'fear of America' to divert the people away from the fact that most of them hate him.
Do we feel safer - again, please bear in mind that we are looking from a completely different perspective, but we feel a lot safer than when the neo-cons tried to spread democracy and peace with bombs
This person has also harassed Lita on the email. He starts out all nice and conversational, and then sent her some really ugly messages. Those had nothing to do with Islam this time around, but it had to do with politics, or something of the like.
I admire your peace making ways Sufi. You are able to get along with everyone, and that is good.
- sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago0
Sorry it took so long to find this post, got busy writing a hub
. What I mean by I don't believe in accidents is exactly that, nothing happens by accident if it did then everything would have to be considered an accident. There is purpose for everything that is, and everything that happens. It might be a grand plan of some master creator that is often called God, or it comes from within, law of attraction stuff. Perhaps it is some combination of the two, either way a purpose is always served with every event. As a kid growing up I was abused by my step mom until the courts finally decided to remove me from the home. I grew up angry with a chip on my shoulder the size of a boulder. I became very suicidal and made more attempts then I can count, more then once I woke up in the hospital being told that I had almost died, 5 minutes later getting to the hospital and they would not have been able to do anything. I used to think, why me? Why did I have to go through all this crap? Well today I have shared my experiences and more importantly what it took to heal and have had quite a few people say that my experiences with healing from this stuff really helped them. Why me? Well why not? I am strong and courageous enough to want to share when I find someone who might need it. My experiences have given me a life that I am very proud of and has led me to do things that are worth doing. It is no accident that my step mom was abusive and I have learned much from that situation that I could not have learned any other way.Yes. I live in London and was here for the 7/7 attacks, I lived in NY when 9/11 happened. By all rights I should not be here, but not because of those attacks. My mother had scheduled to have an abortion when pregnant with me but then had a total mental collapse and did not make the appointment due to being hospitalized. I almost died of whooping cough as an infant my future adopted dad just happened to glance at me as I was turning a deep shade of purple and was able to do mouth to mouth. More then one suicide attempt would have resulted in death if it had taken 5 extra minutes to get me help. You are more likely to get hit by a car (which I have also experienced
) then die because of a brainwashed youth who thinks they are serving Allah by blowing themselves up. Do you live in fear of cars that might hit you? Or do you carry on with your life realizing that it is out of your hands if you get hit by a car and the only real choice you have is to live in fear or not? Having been hit by a car (luckily not hard really, was able to walk home) you might think that cars would scare me as being hit by one was one of the scariest things I have gone through yet my job is to stop cars so kids can safely cross the road. By living in fear we are unlikely to do much good, by overcoming fear we can actually do something to protect and create a freedom from fear. Scare mongering is destructive and is playing right into the hands of those who wish to create fear.
- Denno66posted 14 years ago0
Harvey, it doesn't matter who's in charge, the argument for any one party's better or worse handling of this nation is a dead, rotting corpse worthy of a swift burial at best. Those in charge are doing something; whatever that is I'm not privvy to, but I'm as safe as I can be under the circumstances. I believe critiquing the current administration's job of protecting our country and its citizens, sorely undermines their position and benefits nobody but OUR enemies. With that said, I wish you a Very Happy New Year.
Have to have the last word, huh?
Remember, the headache tomorrow.
He thinks it makes he look suave for some odd reason. Oh well, I personally do not buy any of what he has to say
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- Denno66posted 14 years ago0
Some become unabashed Centrists.
- Denno66posted 14 years ago0
- Ghost32posted 14 years ago0
- Insecurity issues are always fun.
- sarah dawkinsposted 14 years ago0
- Denno66posted 14 years ago0
Ah, Politics.
I generally feel safe
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