I agree with Ben Carson, no muslims as president.

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  1. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    "You have a nation that supports and protects Free Speech.  With that Right comes also Responsibility.  Do you uphold that principle?"

    Jonny, I do want to protect free speak.  Let me explain a little. 

    Fact is in secret, Obama created HR 347 which criminalizes free speak with a felony for protesting. 

    That is the truth, sadly.

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      PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Sadly, what you say is not true.  HR 347 was enacted to update a measure that has been on the books since it was signed by President Richard Nixon in 1971, making it a federal crime to trespass on grounds secured by the Secret Service. No new penalties were added.

      Here is the entire text of HR 347.  It's only two pages.  I hope you will read it for yourself.  http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112h … 347enr.pdf 

      It was passed by the House and Senate, not "created by Obama."  In fact, only three people voted against it:  https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/112-2012/h73

      Will this make you question your sources?  It should, because you get a lot of stuff wrong.

      http://www.factcheck.org/2012/05/obama- … ee-speech/

    2. wilderness profile image76
      wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      When did "free speak" become synonymous with "disrupt business"?  When it became apparent that it would draw media attention to cause harm to others?

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        jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        By searching in Google, I see numerous comments about HR347.  Each comment comes from a source with a particular axe to grind.  It might be politically biased to the right or the left.  It might be a protest movement or a religious bias.  But in each case, you will need to read through the text of comment carefully and fully understand the statements and the emphasis of the person writing.

        The law was reached by your House of Representatives surely, not by your President.  It's supposed to be a democratic process.  So I don't see it as reasonable to blame the outcome on the President, when it is role of the Office of President merely to "sign it into law."  This is similar to the role of our Sovereign in the United Kingdom.  The King or the Queen does not make the laws.  They are made by representatives of the People, "in Parliament."  The Sovereign, or the Governor General in the case of The Commonwealth of Australia, signs into law an Act of Parliament.  No one else can perform this function.

        The sound and safe functioning of this democratic process does require each member of the People to think and act responsibly, not  just the President.

  2. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Senior Judicial Analyst Andrew Napolitano is my source on Obama's Federal Restricted Buildings and Grounds Improvement Act of 2011.

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      PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Did you read the links?  Who pays Napolitano?

      http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vAqqyOFThoE/hqdefault.jpg

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Here is a link to that on YouTube.  It really is worth listening. 
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKjy0PDlKV4

        Suppression of free speech violates our 1st Amendment rights no matter how I look at it.

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          PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Did you read the links?  I have noticed you rarely answer a direct question.  I watched the video, AND I read the links.  I still conclude:

          - HR 347 does not prohibit free speech
          - It was enacted by Congress with very little debate and by an overwhelming margin and signed into law by President Obama.  No additional penalties were added to the already existing law that had been on the books since 1971.
          - It was not passed in secret. It was enacted through the normal process, from beginning to end.

    2. Alternative Prime profile image63
      Alternative Primeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      SOURCING Andrew Napolitano? LOL, That's your PROBLEM colorfulone ~

      Everyone knows Fox Snooze is NOT the best SOURCE for Accurate Information ~ As a matter of Fact, it's not considered a reliable SOURCE at all by most Professionals ~

  3. TravelDude11 profile image59
    TravelDude11posted 9 years ago

    Obama is a CHRISTIAN and even if he was Muslim. Who cares ?  Nothing in constitution says you have to be Christian to be president. It is religious freedom not Christian freedom btw

  4. Author Cheryl profile image73
    Author Cherylposted 9 years ago

    Its nice your hub got editors choice when you simply plagiarized your whole hub from the internet.  Anyone can write a hub by googling untrue facts and using those facts to plagiarize a whole hub. Here is 309 things he has done and that isn't even the whole list.  Stop picking out information because this hub surely looks stupid on the writers part.
    http://pleasecutthecrap.com/obama-accomplishments/

  5. KarenHC profile image75
    KarenHCposted 9 years ago

    First of all the original post is an eRumor that has been around for a long time.  It all reads like far-right-wing propaganda to me, with lies and distorted statements.  There are so many misconceptions that the far-right continues to perpetuate about Obama.   

    Two points:
    1. Obama is a Christian:

    " I'm a Christian by choice. My family didn't—frankly, they weren't folks who went to church every week. And my mother was one of the most spiritual people I knew, but she didn't raise me in the church.
    So I came to my Christian faith later in life, and it was because the precepts of Jesus Christ spoke to me in terms of the kind of life that I would want to lead—being my brothers' and sisters' keeper, treating others as they would treat me.
    And I think also understanding that Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility we all have to have as human beings, that we're sinful and we're flawed and we make mistakes, and that we achieve salvation through the grace of God. But what we can do, as flawed as we are, is still see God in other people and do our best to help them find their own grace.
    That's what I strive to do. That's what I pray to do every day. I think my public service is part of that effort to express my Christian faith.
    —  President Barack Obama, September 27, 2010"

    2. (not from the original post, but from someone's recent remark about where Obama was born).
    Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, a state of the U.S.  He was not born in Kenya.  Only people born in the U.S. can be President.  Hawaii is a part of the U.S.

  6. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    CEO Ms Richards under oath admitted that Planned Parenthood does not have and never had
    mammogram machines and has never provided mammograms.

    Cecile Richards said under oath that Planned Parenthood never said that they perform mammograms.
    Ms Richards told the world that Planned Parenthood DOES perform mammograms (not under oath).

    * Obama told us and the whole world that Planned Parenthood provides mammograms. Huh?
    * (listen to him) 

    "Planned Parenthood fact-checks Planned Parenthood on mammograms"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu_0-iD-rPk 

    Planned Parenthood is not a federal agency but the federal government funds it and in part with tax payers money.

    Obama said he would VETO a bill that passes to defund Planned Parenthood and SHUT DOWN the government. 

    So! The Republican majority votes to fund the "private agency" to avoid a government shut down.   
    That is whats going on in Washington under the Obama Adm., agenda after agenda!   

    * I do not trust the Republican leaders who vote against their parties polices.

    The Democrats vote to fund Planned Parenthood, no problem. 

    * I do not trust the Democratic leaders whose policy it is to fund a private agency because Planned Parenthood makes large campaign contributions to the Democratic party (zero to the Republican party).
    http://influenceexplorer.com/organizati … d04c52de95

    Obama gets an agenda passed by threatening a VETO and a GOV. SHUT DOWN as his trump card. 
    So! Whose fault would it be if Obama shut down the government because of a Republican majority vote? Democrats would say its the Republicans fault, that 'they' shut down the government...when it was Obama. Nothing new. 

    Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) gave a speech on the senate floor and blew the whistle on his own Republican party leaders and on how Obama's agendas get passed. BTW, Sen. Cruz has an impeccable track record.   
    http://www.cruz.senate.gov/

    Where is the Democracy under a 'ruler' who has gained thousands of taxpayer dollars funneled through
    Planned Parenthood alone? A private agency that is under criminal investigation for potentially breaking federal laws. ( What a fine example of the Rainbow House that celebrates sin. )

    The ongoing disregard and lack of respect for human life at Planned Parenthood and by the Obama Administration is shocking and appalling in light of the undercover videos that emerged.

    Obama is not my president, because I did not vote for him.  Christians detest the killing of unborn babies.  I am a Christian. I am not a Democrat or a Republican.

    I do side with Christian politicians who are true to them self and their convictions before the God of the Holy Bible, not the "Holy Quran" as Obama speaks of so highly.

    1. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Petition to Protect Pro-Life Pregnancy Centers
      http://aclj.org/pro-life/stop-the-shutd … 41791201=1

  7. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Obama cut pork from federal prison menus saying they don't like eating pork in prison much.  Anyway, because there was a great uproar by inmates, Obama put pork back on the menus.

    I wonder if he tried that move so that muslims in prison wouldn't be offended.  What a joke.  But, I suppose there many be a lot of muslims in prison.

    1. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, that was the reason, to accommodate muslims in prison. 
      http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cns … ison-menus

      With no regrade for the American pork producers, food producers loses or inmates who love pork.   

      "“The National Pork Producers Council isn’t buying it. 'I find it hard to believe that a survey would have found a majority of any population saying, ‘No thanks, I don’t want any bacon,'” said Dave Warner, a spokesman for the Washington-based trade association, which represents the nation’s hog farmers."

      Sounds like Obama was trying to impose shiria dietary laws.

  8. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    The United States use to be a great country and I hope it can be once again.  I love this country. 

    This just came out today.

    "Judicial Watch: New State Documents Show Quick White House Effort to Link Benghazi to Internet Video"
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room … net-video/

    "Judicial Watch has now filed 40 FOIA requests, a Mandatory Declassification Review, and at least 12 lawsuits against the Obama administration relating to the Benghazi terrorist attack. Currently, Judicial Watch is the only non-governmental organization in the nation litigating in federal court to uncover information withheld by the Obama administration about the events that transpired before, during, and following the Benghazi massacre." 

    Interesting read if you like this sort of thing.  I like reading facts.

    1. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I read it and you cannot draw the hyperbolic conclusions the JW reported.  It is very telling that JW is the ONLY, as they say, organization, outside of the politically driven Benghazi investigation, digging into this.  That means even the Right-wing press and talking-heads see no point in pursuing a smoke screen by JW.  There are no moderates either, why?  Obviously the Left has no desire to create out of thin air something which, what 3 different Conservative investigations, found to be baseless.

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Is there room in your country for anyone who disagrees with you?

  9. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    I sure hope this goes through so Obama cannot give more money to support Islamist terrorism.  This is good news but everyone needs to get on the phone.

    “Momentum is building on Capitol Hill for a new congressional resolution that would cut more than $5 billion in U.S. aid to the Palestinians as a result of an increase in violence that has claimed the lives of at least eight Israelis and wounded many more, according to a copy of the measure viewed by the Free Beacon.

    The bill comes amid criticism from lawmakers about the Obama administration’s response to the terrorism and efforts to blame Israel for the violence. Sen. Ted Cruz (R., Tex.), among others, has demanded that Secretary of State John Kerry resign his post in light of accusations by the administration that Israel has fostered the violence as a result of its policies to combat Palestinian terrorism.

    Rep. Martha McSally (R., Ariz.), a retired Air Force colonel, is now seeking to hold the Palestinian Authority directly responsible for the terrorist acts by cutting off U.S. taxpayer aid to the governing body, officials of which have called for more violence against Jewish people in recent days.”
    http://freebeacon.com/issues/congress-l … -campaign/

  10. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    CITIZEN BILL OF GRIEVANCES
    AGAINST PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s administration, which in 2009 invited the corrupt and criminal ACORN organization to “partner” in the 2010 Census, is now apparently violating federal statutes including the “Defund ACORN Act” by continuing to funnel taxpayer funds as “grants” to renamed ACORN affiliates;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama has failed in his duty to secure the borders of the United States against illegal immigration and is weakening enforcement of existing illegal immigration laws and successful enforcement programs;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s Department of Justice unjustifiably sued the states of Arizona and Alabama over their new laws empowering local law enforcement personnel to obey the same federal immigration laws that the President has refused to enforce, and is threatening similar lawsuits against other states;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama has instituted unconstitutional takeovers of key sectors of the United States economy;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s administration has failed to comply with Judicial Watch’s legal open records requests to release public documents related to those actions and other financial bailouts;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama progress that gave the federal government control over America’s health care system (“Obamacare”) was created behind closed doors (in violation of the president’s campaign pledge to…put the health care negotiations on C-SPAN”) was based on false and misleading financial assumption, and is so constitutionally suspect that 27 states filed suit against it.

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama has failed to comply with Judicial Watch’s legal open records efforts to release public documents related to possible corrupt deals struck to win passage of this “Obamacare” legislation;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama by signing “Obamacare” into law also put the national student loan program under government control, a provision of the health care legislation that was barely debated in Congress or discussed in the mainstream media;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s administration contested Judicial Watch’s historic and ultimately successful lawsuits related to the full release of White House visitor logs and has still failed to comply with the court order to surrender them;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s Department of Justice dropped a clear-cut voter intimidation lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party,and documents uncovered by Judicial Watch prove that, despite repeated Obama administration denials, senior political appointees at the Justice Department were involved in this radically and politically-driven decision;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s administration has routinely failed to comply with Judicial Watch’s lawful open records requests (currently numbering over 950) to release documents related to the Troubled Asset Relief Program (“TARP”) and other government bailouts;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s administration has failed to comply with Judicial Watch’s legal open records requests and is contesting Judicial Watch lawsuits seeking the release of documents relation to potential political corruption at mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, whose collapse triggered the near collapse of the American economy in 2008;

    WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s administration has failed to comply with Judicial Watch’s lawful open records requests and is contesting a Judicial Watch lawsuit arguing for the release of documents that will help determine what, if any, legal authority exists for the government bailout of major financial institutions.
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/obama-acco … y-project/

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Were you just as active demanding information from the government of GWB?  If not, why not?  He and his team were certainly not above reproach, surely?

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Its looking like Trump is not letting the 9/11 attack that Bush had full knowledge of beforehand be swept under the rug any longer.  I say good for him! 

        Two weeks before 9/11 a friend of mine called me and said we needed to pray for the City of New York because there was going to be a bomb dropped on the city.  We prayed everyday. After the attack I wept for weeks after for those who survived.  I still cry after all this time because people are still hurting and morning great lose. 

        I was not active demanding info from the government than.  It was a difficult time for me having known beforehand about what was going to happen and then it happened.

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          jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I am sure all that daily prayer did a lot of good!

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          Larry Wallposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          How did you or anyone know about 9-11 before hand and do you really think the President would had done nothing to prevent it. Some of the comments made in this forum are way beyond belief and creditably.

          1. rhamson profile image71
            rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Clinton warned Bush of Bin Laden as a top security threat in 2000.

            http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= … JlpJ_EHfAA

            1. wilderness profile image76
              wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              There is quite a difference between "Bin Laden is dangerous" and having names, dates, times and plans for 911 (full knowledge).  The smallest of which is that "actionable intelligence" that prevented Clinton from acting against Bin Laden himself.

              1. rhamson profile image71
                rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                The only difference I see is that the twin towers were demolished after the warning. Clinton made Bin Laden a top threat and relayed it to dufus. What he did with it from there is on him. A question I have for you is what did "W" do with the information? At the very least "W" miscalculated the warning 3,000 people paid for with their lives. That's a big "very least".

                1. Alternative Prime profile image63
                  Alternative Primeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Nobody really knows what George W did subsequent to receiving a MOUNTAIN of Signals indicating an Attack was imminent, unless we explore with an official investigation, but everyone understands the FACT that the Prudent thing to do would have been to INCREASE SECURITY, ESPECIALLY at AIRPORTS and FLIGHT SCOOLS ~

                  This would have been a good place to start don't we think? ~

                  Even more ASTONISHING? This imbeciles brother wants to become PRESIDENT** ~ Talk about GALL ~

          2. colorfulone profile image80
            colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Go to YouTube and search for the Twin Towers imploding. I have watched many videos of those buildings imploding...that doesn't happen on its own.  Those planes didn't bring those steel buildings down, they were built to withstand an airplane crashing into them. 

            As to how I knew. My friend who called me and told me what was about to happen is a prophet and had a word of knowledge, a warning and a call to pray by the Holy Spirit.  You can read about that stuff in the Bible or search for it online or listen to videos on YouTube.

            I love YouTube.

            1. wilderness profile image76
              wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              OMG - you too?  Utube will tell you (and so will some posters here) that Bush personally ripped out walls (of occupied offices), planted tons and tons of explosives (that were never delivered to the building), strung miles of detonator wire (again through occupied offices) and blew up the towers.  It will also tell you that the buildings fell faster than is possible AND that they fell slower than is possible.  It will tell you that the debris has uncounted tons of an aluminum granules that is "only" possible with thermite reactions, but cannot produce any records of the necessary tons of raw materials entering the building.  It will tell you that burning jet fuel cannot soften steel beams, even with temperatures in the thousands of degrees. 

              UTube will tell you (with "absolute proof" in video) absolutely anything you want to hear, whether it is that Bush planted the explosives or that planes knock down buildings.  You just have to be gullible enough to swallow the crap without ever checking it out.

            2. colorfulone profile image80
              colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Bush knew something was going to happen. He had a death threat the morning of 9/11 and was set out like a sitting duck in a class room in Florida, where he sat, instead of being swept away by security.  He didn't call for fighter planes because of a terrorist attack, secure the borders, nothing that would have been presidential during an attack. 

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Ja-W5LWVk

              1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                And consider the words the teacher had the children all read aloud from flashcards KITE HIT STEEL MUST!

          3. Alternative Prime profile image63
            Alternative Primeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Here we go AGAIN back into "Republican Pretend Land" where George W Bush was Competent at National Security when in REALITY, he was one of the WORST Presidents in HISTORY in this Vitally Important Area ~ A DISGRACE to our Nation ~

            If you CLOSE your EYES Really Really TIGHT and "PRETEND" 9/11, the most Horrendous Terrorist Attack in History, did NOT Occur during Simple Minded George Ws tenure you would STILL be WRONG, whereas this Idiot started an Unwinable, Unnecessary WAR in Iraq on TOP of every other BLUNDER ~  How many Americans to date were Taken or Injured during this conflict, not to mention the SPROUTING Tentacles of Bad Intent due to the REMOVAL: of Saddam Hussein ~

            George W is an Idiot and his brother Jeb is proving to be even a bigger one every time he opens his Yapper ~ And YES, George W is ABSOLUTELY to BLAME for not only 9/11 but the Unprecedented  Economic COLLAPSE prior to his leaving office ~

            1. rhamson profile image71
              rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Before you go off into Progressive La La land Bill Clinton also failed in getting Bin Laden. He was afraid of the collateral damage in getting him. Obama doesn't seem to have a problem with it in light of recent years attacks on civilians.

              http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow … story.html

              1. Alternative Prime profile image63
                Alternative Primeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                The only La La's i see are in "Republican Pretend Land", where apparently a GHOST was President during 9/11 ~

                There's a BIG difference between President Clinton's concern about "Collateral Damage", which usually translates to trying to protect innocent lives, and George W's Complete FAILURE to Secure our Homeland & his Total ineptitude while EXACERBATING Turmoil & Upheaval in the Middle East ~ Everyone understands the Fact that this guy was a Disaster as President ~

                1. rhamson profile image71
                  rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Not really when you consider the 3000 American lives lost in the Twin Towers. Bill Clinton not pulling the trigger helped lose these people. George Bush not taking it seriously enough contributed as well.

                  1. Alternative Prime profile image63
                    Alternative Primeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    LOL rhamson, YOU are Absolutely Correct ONLY in "Republican Pretend Land" ~

                    In REALITY within the REAL WORLD, FAR away from Ruralites, "Pulling a Trigger" was NOT a Contributing factor However, George W's incompetent NEGLIGENCE in FAILING to Secure our Airports, Flight Schools etc was a Monumentally Detrimental FACTOR which Paved the Way for 9/11 in which almost 3,000 Americans were Taken Unnecessarily ~

              2. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                The #1 aspect of OBL's alleged demise is that it occurred on the very eve of Keyes v. Obama Citizenship in California Appellate Court.  It was going to be earth-shattering for us birthers and we were living for that case to be heard.  But guess what? California quietly, while college students who didn't even remember 9/11 were dancing in the streets celebrating, forwarded the case to the U.S. Supreme court where it languished another year before it was summarily dismissed.

                1. Credence2 profile image80
                  Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Good Gawd, man, Keyes is an Uncle Tom, a 'big house' lackey. He is the only black man in black face makeup that I have ever known...

                  1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                    Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Alan Keyes knows our Constitution almost as well as Robert Bork did.  The main thing you need to face up to is that Kenyan-born Obama IS The Antichrist and Pope Francis is his False Prophet.  Now get right with God before the Rapture!

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                    jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Lol!

    2. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      WHY THINKING PEOPLE, the same ones who elected him twice by decisive margins, KNOW that President Obama has done an outstanding job in the face of relentless, unwarranted attacks by those who want to destroy America's Constitution.

      WHERE AS President Barack Obama has reduced illegal immigration over the borders by 50%

      WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s Department of Justice justifiably sued the states of Arizona and Alabama over their new illegal, unConstitutional immigration laws

      WHEREAS, President Barack Obama has instituted many initiatives which has successfully improved the United States economy without getting in the way of how business works.

      WHEREAS, President Barack Obama’s administration is complying with all court-ordered release of sensitive government information requested by Judicial Watch’s.

      WHEREAS, President Barack Obama by signing “Obamacare” into law also put the national student loan program under government control and reduced the cost of loans to the nations students.
      WHEREAS, President Barack Obama progress that gave the People control over America’s health care system (“Obamacare”) taking it out of the hands of the profit-oriented, health care deficient, greedy pharmaceutical, insurance, and for-profit hospitals who care more about their bottom-line rather than the patient.  He made insurance available to tens of millions of uninsured Americans who the Left cares about but the Right does not.  History now shows ACA is beating its application and financial l goals set-up at the time of the law passed.  The process was transparent enough where anyone who took the time read all the information that was available knew the major features of ACA months before it became law.    Conservatives hate helping people so much that 27 RED-led states filed suit against it.

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    PrettyPantherposted 9 years ago

    My measured, thoughtful reply is:

    http://www.dumpaday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/funny-pictures-173.jpg

    1. wilderness profile image76
      wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      LOL  Yep, it's politics time!

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        PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Some threads deserve only the best discourse.  big_smile

  12. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/12706552.jpg

  13. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Its a big country with plenty of room for the vast differences it holds.
    http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/12706562.png
    What’s So Bad About the Iran Deal?
    http://aclj.org/middle-east/whats-so-ba … -iran-deal

    1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
      Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      This POS also stated "People should not be allowed to own guns."  Thank God "Keep & Bear" means own and CARRY for such a time as this!

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    peter565posted 9 years ago

    What is wrong about having a Muslim President?

    1. If the Taliban give us reason to believe Muslim is an evil religion.  Then, there are more reason in history to make people think Christianity is an evil religion.  I can go on with the list.
    a. The Crusades
    b. The inquisition
    c. executing scientist for speaking againt the church
    d. The Spanish Inquisition that only ended in 19th century, where people who refuse to convert to Catholicism are all executed.
    e. When Emperor Constancy speak of legalizing Christianity, what he really did was order, all Christians and Pegans that refuse to convert to Catholic, would be executed.  According to archeological evidence, prior to that, Christian would only be executed, if they conduct activities in the name of god, the Romans felt would threaten the state.  Roman trying to kill all Christians, is bullshit wrote up by Constancy and early Catholic church.  Emperor Nero which the church accused to be the biggest murder of Christians, in fact wrote an order saying "no Christian should be touch, unless they broke the law"
    f. burning people alive, for been witches. 

    later when they reacehd America they,

    g. executed native American religious priest, for witchcraft, because it is none Christians

    And if you think all of these end in 20th century, you are dame wrong

    h. In WW2, the Catholic pop praise Hitler's killing of Jews saying "God gave us Hitler" and "there is no such thing call the blood of an innocent Jew."

    i. Prior to 1980 the Catholic church Home for Unwed Mothers, is in fact a prison, where the then Irish government allow the Catholic church to practice religion law.  Women whom are unwed mothers, are been thrown into this prison by the Catholic church, because been an unwed mother is a sin in Catholicism, the church confiscated the children.  Those unwed mother, serve a life in prison sentence, in this jail.  The children those who are lucky enough, the Catholic church then conduct baby auction, sending the babies wanted to be adopted to the highest bidder.  The rest that are not adopted, died from lack of nutrition, the babies are then buried in mass graves, without even given a proper burial or funeral. 

    j. Issue of human trafficking of the Catholic church where none Catholic babies are been stolen by the Catholic church to be adopted by Catholic families, continue to happen today.  And in recent years are raising attentions in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufmQygpOhn0.

    If there are any reason to believe Muslim are evil, there are way more reason for people to believe Christians are evil. 

    2.  It is because Obama is Muslim, he have a better understanding of the Middle Eastern world, is able to deal with the situation, objectively, without prejudice

  15. Credence2 profile image80
    Credence2posted 9 years ago

    Seems like the reactionaries and their points of view are being tarred and feathered being run out of town. May the more evolved sensibilities of the Left continue to prevail!!

  16. poppyr profile image93
    poppyrposted 9 years ago

    The United States of America, ladies and gentlemen. *FACEPALM*

  17. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    GW Bush was a puppet like his dad, like Obama is. 

    Anyway, it is interesting to research President Bush on 9/11 time line. Things don't add up. 

    Maybe 9/11 was a ways and means to start some wars that were very costly with bankers and corporations earning a fortune?  They pull the puppet's strings?

    1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
      Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      When I served at Operation Iraqi freedom we were each required to drink a gallon & a half a day of BOTTLED water.  We were not allowed to drink local water as it may have been tampered with and sometimes was.  Try to imagine the profit made by Evian and other water suppliers to the U.S. government when we had over 300,000 military and contractors each drinking that much!  It was more about water, black berets, body armor, and Oshkosh trucks than oil.  You cannot comprehend how much petroleum we went through there instead of putting it in our reserves.
      Recently a Nestle CEO at a summit said "Water should not be free."

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Really, only bottled water.  I haven't looked up what things cost during the Iraqi war.  When each dinner plate a soldier uses can cost the US taxpayers $50 each, and each soldier takes four plates, ... 2 for plates and 2 to use as lids somebody is getting special favors (because of large contributions). Soldiers need a knife, fork and spoon too.  On and on...

        I should study up on the Iraqi war more. Then again, I suppose a lot of facts are by now missing like  Obama's former Secretary of State Clinton's emails. 

        I'm wondering what Obama and Secretary of State Kerry are up to now. Kerry is back peddling after the crap he was saying about Israel.   https://www.facebook.com/IsraeliPM/vide … 415433335/

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        jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        1 1/2 gallons?   I don't believe you!
        What else in your story is made up?

        1. colorfulone profile image80
          colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I'm guessing you were not in the military, Jonny.  It can get very hot in Iraqi and soldiers who are very active can lose up to 5 gallons of water per day or more. It depends on the temperature and activity. 

          Sgt Prepper is an America Veteran of War.
          RESPECT

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            jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Better than that Suzie.  I am not going to disclose my Service back ground.

        2. Sgt Prepper profile image60
          Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          During my two tours I saw the temperature reach 140def F.  I had to daily check my squad members urine-flow that it was clear and watch for signs of dehydration, such as headache, chapped lips, dry eyes, lightheadedness and constipation.  Our sweat evaporated almost instantly even in long-sleeves. The gallon & a-half of water we were under orders to drink daily was in addition to Gatoraid, milk, coffee, soda, juices, etc.  There were no alcoholic beverages available except occasionally a Scope bottle would come from home that was really vodka & blue food-coloring.

          1. GA Anderson profile image84
            GA Andersonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Greetings Sgt. Pepper,

            "... a Scope bottle would come from home that was really vodka & blue food-coloring."

            Damn, I wish I had thought of that. Might have made some of those mid-watches a little more bearable. We fermented ours in the Oil Shack.

            GA

  18. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    A report by Lou Dobbs revealed this. (it was on me Facebook feed) 
    https://www.facebook.com/FoxBusiness/vi … 907870238/

    In his book, "The America We Deserve" published in 2000 (a year before 9/11)
    Donald Trump wrote a warning of the terrorist threat to the USA.

    "I really am convinced we're in danger of the sort of terrorist attack that will make
    the 1993 bombing of the Trade Center look like kids playing with fire crackers."

    "One day we're told that a shadowy figure with no fixed address named Osama bin-Laden
    is public enemy number one, and U.S. jet fighters lay waste to his camp in Afghanistan..."

    "...He escapes back under some rock, and a few news cycles later it's on to a new enemy and new crisis."

    That to me is remarkable that Trump wrote that 15 years ago.  Hmm!

    1. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Its amazing how many had a sense of such an occurrence, yet we still don't really seem to be able to prevent a re-occurrence.  We talk about homeland security and the US citizens need passports to reenter the country while we allow and support illegal aliens.

      Where is the intelligence? 
      Surely we have people who are far more intelligent to secure the U.S.A.

  19. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Under the Obama Administration the U.S. is sending approximately $400 million of taxpayer dollars to the  Palestinian Authority per year. Why are Americans supporting terrorist that at war with Israel?

    Please sign the petition to help stop the Jihadist violence and Terrorism.
    http://aclj.org/israel/the-internationa … i-citizens

    1. wilderness profile image76
      wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Because it is PC to do so.  The same reason we support Israel, that is at war with the Palestinians.

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Israel has been defending themselves from the PA.
        Are they not allowed to defend themselves? 

        Obama's United States Secretary of State John Kerry needs to resign because of his slander against Israel.  The MSM is not reporting the truth about Israel, wilderness.
        https://www.tedcruz.org/l/resign-john-kerry/

        We can agree to disagree on this one. 

        I am standing with Israel as Palestinian Terror Intensifies
        http://aclj.org/israel/standing-with-is … ntensifies

        Muslims that salute like Nazis.
        http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Images:Nazism

        http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/12708377.jpg

        1. colorfulone profile image80
          colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I might as well add the link to Writer Fox's article that is worthy of a journalism award.
          "Israel Palestine Conflict..."
          http://writerfox.hubpages.com/hub/Israe … m-Pakistan

        2. colorfulone profile image80
          colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          What a powerful message by Sara Zoabi a Israeli-Muslim women who is speaking up on behalf of Israel.

          Everyone needs to hear this message. 
          https://www.facebook.com/mirilavi/video … 057032715/

          1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
            Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            While on liberty in Kuwait City at a beautiful shopping mall I observed a mannequin wearing a quality black T-shirt with a red swastika in a white circle.  It was placed over a bin full of them.

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        jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        This hub demonstrates the extreme ignorant prejudice exercised by some Americans, often in the name of religion, blind patriotism or both.
        I fear for the continuing existence of the world as we know it.

        1. rhamson profile image71
          rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          ?

          Explain, Please?

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            jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            With respect, rhamson, you claim to be an independent thinker.  Surely my statement speaks for itself.

            1. rhamson profile image71
              rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Maybe I am stupid but I wanted to get a clear interpretation as it sounded a bit ambiguous.

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                jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Sorry for the ambiguity.  I would never wish to imply that towards you, Rhamson.

                "This hub demonstrates the extreme ignorant prejudice exercised by some Americans, often in the name of religion, blind patriotism or both.
                I fear for the continuing existence of the world as we know it."


                Whenever any one of us goes to a search engine such as Google, the Websites we latch onto are those that appeal to our prejudices.  If it points to something we already believe; or the author is someone we like the look of on TV; or if it's written on the premise that "God" told us so; .... any bias you like to think of..... then that Website gets our attention, especially if it seems to justify and augment our way of thinking.

                Colorfulone seems to work on these lines.  I wonder if she ever takes a peep at any Website that speaks to the opposite understanding.  For example, if she is strongly on the side of the Republican Party,  does she sit down and seriously, carefully study the points of view which Democrats are putting over?   If she, (or anyone else, of course, I am only using Colorfulone as an example, without prejudice), might have a particular religious bias, then she might only look at Websites that support her beliefs.

                It is my understanding that many "ordinary" Americans have never ventured much beyond their home towns.  Thus, they might not have experienced other cultures, other ethnic societies, and given consideration to those other ways of life.  The only information they get is via mass media outlets, which can be very seriously skewed to suit the owner/editor of the outlet.  Commercial considerations come into it as well.  What sells, sells.   You don't want to upset the people who pay your bills!

                Personally, I have traveled widely.   This is not to say I am an expert on anything as a result of that travel.  But I am able to step back from any idealism relating to one culture and weigh its merits against my own and/or other background.  I used to be quite judgmental, but today very, very much less so.

                The United States of America is in a similar position to what Britain was in a couple of centuries ago.  It feels a need to spread its culture far and wide throughout the world.  It needs to do this in order to justify itself, to support its commercialism, to maintain its military prowess.  And in doing so, it plays havoc with the lives of other people!   

                If the people of the United States do not come to their senses, and realise they have responsibilities to think/speak/act in sensible and more conciliatory ways, then we people of the world will surely suffer the consequences. 

                It sounds to me like President Obama is trying to do just that.   What do you think?

                1. rhamson profile image71
                  rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Thank you for your response. You had a lot to say and I agree with most of it. I too am alarmed at how quickly people jump on a bandwagon supporting what seems to be a posture they agree with. When taken further the facts sometimes blur the meanings of what the poster intended. Then you have a litany of excuse's and more outrageous claims and explanations to show they were right. So many wind up with some conspiracy theory that grows with the argument.

                  Do I think Obama has been trying to explore the openness in a more worldly society? I think to a certain extent yes. But with the globalization of the business world overtaking our commitments to the working class here at home I think he has fallen short. His insistence upon this TPP is astounding to me as the affect it will have on manufacturing will stymy the US worker and middle class for years. I voted for the guy twice because the alternatives with expanded war roles by McCain and corporate sellout by Romney was too much for us to bear. If Hillary is elected I don't see much change as the people who backed Obama so heavily (Wall Street) are invested in her extensively. She throws softballs at them so as not to inflame them.

                  http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/h … ion-120033

        2. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Johnny is not so late after all,  his statement makes perfect sense, the word 'many' need to replace the word 'some'. These people the "some'  need to be consigned to the 'corner' where they can make no further trouble.

          1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
            Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            You mean the FEMA camps?  I assure you all that the Republican'ts and the Demoncrats are all reading from the same script for a New World Order under a single world-wide dictator(BHO).  Just go ahead and read the recently unanimously-passed United Nations Project-2030!  It is referred to as "Agenda-21 on steroids".

            1. colorfulone profile image80
              colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              We all know where "conspiracy theory propaganda" started from, I hope. It started with Hitler. How very well lies work to divide groups of people, breed hatred and even murder of those who are labeled conspiracy theorists. 

              Conspiracy theory propaganda started in the United States by the CIA after the assassination of John F. Kennedy.  This thread and this one ( http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/133657#post2773039 ) is actually proof of scientific studies of how it is that conventional media viewers and readers are the ones who tend to be more hostile than conspiracy believers.  But, I hope you can tone it down a bit. 

              "Scientific Study Reveals Conspiracy Theorists The Most Sane Of All"  -  Whoa! 
              http://collectivelyconscious.net/articl … ne-of-all/

              Studies have actually humanized conspiracy theorists.

              All minds do not think alike.
              The same water given to different people will not look the same scientific studies show.
              Water gathers memories from everywhere it has been before and after its consumed.
              Water is essential to all life, it has energy.
              We all have at least one thing in common.  smile

              1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks for the words of wisdom colorfulone.  Sadly ever since 1/20/2009 when this usurper was illegally inaugurated I have been very angry with BOTH major political parties because they worked together to put this Antichrist in our White House.  I can hardly think about much of anything else for long at all and most of my thoughts contain cuss-words.  But at least I know where this son of perdition BHO will spend his eternity.  I can hardly wait but at the same time I want others to recognize it too.

                1. colorfulone profile image80
                  colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  You are welcome Sgt. Prepper.  The "majority" of people who comment on topical news scientific study sites are what propaganda labels conspiracy theorists.  We are a majority these days but not on HubPages Topics Forums and its no wonder why to me at least. 

                  Having been in two wars I would hope that you are still fighting the good fight of faith. It is a comfort to know the Lord in such uncertain times. Keep on keeping on! 

                  I believe there will be at least one more great out pouring of the Spirit of God on earth and that the harvest will be great.

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                    jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    I can't help thinking there might be some measure of pathology in the way Sgt. thinks and writes.  It does not seem to be from a reasonable man.   Such talk is not what you might expect to hear from a person who preaches christianity in its basic, pure form.  IMHO.

                2. Thief12 profile image77
                  Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/12713390.jpg

                  Man, it sucks to be you if you've been losing sleep for Obama winning... TWICE. It's been more than 6 years. Let it go, LOL

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                    jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    "Freedom of speech!"  yikes

                  2. Credence2 profile image80
                    Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    hilarious, couldn't think of a more appropriate poster.

                    Don't worry, be happy!

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                jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Interesting that in one sentence you speak of scientific studies.  Immediately then you suggest water has memories of everywhere it's been.  The latter is based upon belief, I suggest....not science.  In other words it cannot be subject to the rigors of scientific discipline.

                1. colorfulone profile image80
                  colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm not sure anymore how long it has been proven scientifically that water has memory, at least four years since I read about it first.  It doesn't take long to do a keyword search, Jonny. 

                  I was just on YouTube and found a video you can listen to.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILSyt_Hhbjg

                  Google it, there are a lot of studies and they are all interesting.
                  There have been many studies. 
                  Spring or well water is naturally pure and is what we should be drinking. 
                  Purified water bottled or purified tap water is dead water. 
                  Give an animal a bowl of spring water and a bowl of purified water and they will always go for the naturally purified water.  Animals are smart. 

                  Added: I would suggest doing research on the structure of water that has listened to music if you like music.

                  1. wilderness profile image76
                    wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Probably because spring and well water is NOT pure at all.  I have well water and it is absolutely chock full of impurities - a water softener or other means of purifying it is necessary.  It has taste from the impurities - something that distilled water does not.

                    And all water is dead.  Check the definition of "life" - there is nothing about water that could conceivably be considered "live".

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                    jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Homeopathy.   The one I read was in Rationalwiki.org

              3. colorfulone profile image80
                colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                There were clear warnings that Christians would be persecuted in the United States because of there faith for not being willing to go against what they believe by participating in gay weddings. 

                One of the tactics of the liberals is to force their beliefs on others, and to ridicule those who oppose them and speak honestly. 

                Christians were martyred in the Organ mass shooting. Obama never once spoke out on behave of the Christians who were murdered by an anti-christian.

                Christians everywhere are under attack by anger atheist, extremists, terrorists, and the justice system. 

                http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/12713476.jpg

                1. wilderness profile image76
                  wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, there were clear signs that Christians would be held accountable, under the same law everyone else, is for discrimination or persecution of others based on their belief.  Not persecuted - held accountable the same as others.

                  If Christians would stop the abhorrent practice of a few, the "attacks" would stop.  Don't discriminate.  Stop trying to force their religion on others.  Understand separation of church and state and stop trying to use the state as a platform for pushing religion.  Even such things as your picture arouse enmity as it is a clear indication that Christians want their religion to be the basis of the state.

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                  PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  http://markdrought.com/images/Santorum.jpg

                  Religious extremists have so much in common.

        3. Heidi Joy Hameed profile image60
          Heidi Joy Hameedposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I agree with you, Johnny, though it's certainly not limited to this hub. Most have lost the ability (or given it up by inaction) to think for themselves - to take what others say and swirl it around our brains to see if it makes sense and THEN form an opinion. The church teaches what it teaches; the government what it does and it's our job as people to decide what is right and wrong for ourselves and our families.

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            jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Absolutely Heidi.   Extreme (-ism) can show us only the extremes.  They need to be seen and considered, for sure.  But ultimately it is down-to-earth good sense, a willingness to hear each side and give respect.  If there is anything that is not clear, or causes continual disagreement, then..... perhaps each side has to re-examine its ideas, its presumptions, its assumptions and its insinuations.

            I am not for one moment against the faith and love that you show your family - especially in the grieving you have in the loss of your son.   The individual's place in society and the need for a gregarious family/home life can be and does get supported through a cultural belief system.  I have nothing against this at all.

            However, when a nation gets so incestuous with its sense of self-righteousness that it cannot even look at itself clearly in the mirror, then we must expect the entire world to be enveloped in sickness.

            Right now, as I see it (once again, admitting I am a foreigner), the United States of America has a President that's doing his utmost to be fair.  I might be wrong in this assumption.  Any of us can only go by what we are fed by the Public Relations Department.   But, do we trust our hearts to sense a true person above a false person or not?   I'm betting Mr. Obama is above board and a good man.

    2. rhamson profile image71
      rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      This issue has two sides to it. Both unsavory when investigated. The US should pull all funding to the area and let them work this out between themselves.

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        That would be one solution.

    3. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So how much of my tax payer dollars have I been giving to Israel?

      1. Quilligrapher profile image71
        Quilligrapherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        $3.1 Billion U.S. Bilateral Aid to Israel each year in 2014, 2015, and requested for 2016.
        (3,100,000,000 dollars) {1}
        http://s2.hubimg.com/u/6919429.jpg
        {1} https://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf Table B-1, p.29

        1. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks, Quill, it is obvious that anything that was given to the Palestinians pale in comparison to this figure.

          1. profile image0
            jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            "Don't let the facts get in the  way of a good (i.e. useful) story."

  20. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Undeniable facts were revealed today during the Benghazi hearing with the former Secretary of State.

    Hillary Clinton EMAILED the Libyan president and her family that the Benghazi attack was a "well-planned terrorist attack."  Really? 

    At the same time, Clinton and Obama told the country that the Benghazi attack happened because of "the VIDEO!"  Oops! 

    When Rep. Jim Jordan read Hillary's own emails to her, she simply ignored the proof he had presented in the hearing.

    Will the liberal mainstream media follow suit and ignore this instance of Clinton's dishonesty also?

    1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
      Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Also gay Chicagoan Ambassador Chris Stevens was taken-out and could no longer reveal activities of Bathhouse Barry and Rahm Emmanual at Man's Country in the tenderloin district.

  21. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Obama, Kerry and Hillary like to use the term moderate Muslims. 
    Some moderates came together for a teaching.  .
    https://www.facebook.com/24063870610942 … 470128149/

    Lying (Taqiyya and Kitman)
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

  22. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    I like finding out what a Godly man has to say about our nation. Franklin Graham says it like it is, and I respect his thoughts highly.  He is an honorable like his father, Billy Graham. 

    "Incredible—11 hours! I watched about an hour of the marathon testimony that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave before Congress as the committee was trying to get to the truth. To be honest with you, I’m not sure if we’ll ever know the truth about what happened at Benghazi. Those lives won’t ever be brought back. But one thing is clear—there is a serious divide between Republicans and Democrats, and our country is in trouble. We need new leadership—leaders that understand the importance of God’s laws and biblical morality. Let’s pray for our nation, for those in political office, and that God in His mercy will give us new leaders that looks to Him. The Bible says, “Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD” (Psalm 33:12)."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/benghazi-co … about-you/

    1. Alternative Prime profile image63
      Alternative Primeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      There is ABSOLUTELY a Divide between Democrats & Republicans, the Partisan "WITCH HUNT" we ALL witnessed yesterday where Republicans POLITICALLY Attacked Hillary solidifies this fact, however, the Country is NOT in trouble, the REPUBLICANS are in Trouble ~

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Hillary Clinton admitted that she broke the law, no getting around that.  She did not sign a waiver for security arrangements on the Benghazi site, which is a requirement by the Secure Embassy Construction and Counterterrorism Act of 1999


        Susan Brooks: But I have to ask you, if you’re familiar with the facts that in the wake of the 1998 bombing attacks in Nairobi and Dar-es-Salaam, Congress passed something referred to as the SECCA, the Secure Embassy Construction and Counterterrorism Act, which requires the Secretary of State to issue a waiver under two conditions: if the U.S. government personnel work in separate facilities, or if U.S. oversees facilities do not meet the security setback distances specified by the Bureau of Diplomatic Security. The law specifies that only the Secretary of State may sign these waivers, and that requirement is not to be delegated. Was a waiver issued for the temporary mission in Benghazi and the CIA annex, after the temporary mission compound was authorized through december of 2012? And did you sign that waiver, Madam Secretary?

        Clinton: I think that the, the CIA annex I had no responsibility for. So I cannot speak to what the decisions were with respect to the CIA annex. That is something i know other committees have–

        Brooks: But you acknowledge you were responsible for the temporary mission compound.

        Clinton: Yes, of course. But you put them together. I just wanted to clarify that I had no responsibility for the CIA annex, obviously. The compound in Benghazi was neither an embassy nor a consulate. Those are the only two facilities for which we would obtain a formal diplomatic notification. And those were the only kinds of facilities that we would have sought waivers for at the time, because we were trying to–as has been testified to earlier–understand whether we were going to have a permanent mission or not. That means you have to survey available facilities, try to find a secure facility. and the standards that are set by the interagency Overseas Security Policy Board are the goals we try to drive for. But it is, it is very difficult, if not impossible, to do that in the immediate aftermath of a conflict situation. The temporary mission in Benghazi was set up to try to find out what was going on in the area, to work with the CIA where appropriate, and to make a decision as to whether there would be a permanent facility. So we could not have met the goals under the Overseas Security Policy Board. Nor could we have issued a waiver because we had to set up operations in order to make the assessments as to whether or not we would have a permanent mission, whether that mission would remain open. We made extensive and comprehensive improvements to the physical security, which I mentioned before.

        Brooks: Madam Secretary, thank you. So it is obvious that a waiver was not signed, and you’ve given a defense as to why a waiver was not signed, and it was temporary because it was made up. It was something different. The compound had never become official. And so, therefore, you did not sign a waiver. Which, when most of our people are stationed in such dangerous places–let me get into that, with respect to the dangerous places–we know that Libya , you’ve testified before, was incapable of providing host nation support. And that involves protecting our diplomats and other U.S. government officials who travel there. So if the Libyan people didn’t have a government capable of providing security, and we didn’t have U.S. military in Libya, then we have two options: we either leave when it gets too dangerous, or the State Department makes sure that they provide that protection.

        22 U.S. Code § 4865 - Security requirements for United States diplomatic facilities
        https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/4865

        (2) Site selection
        (A) In general
        In selecting a site for any new United States diplomatic facility abroad, the Secretary shall ensure that all United States Government personnel at the post (except those under the command of an area military commander) will be located on the site.
        (B) Waiver authority
        (i) In general Subject to clause (ii), the Secretary of State may waive subparagraph (A) if the Secretary, together with the head of each agency employing personnel that would not be located at the site, determine that security considerations permit and it is in the national interest of the United States.
        (ii) Chancery or consulate building
        (I) Authority not delegable The Secretary may not delegate the waiver authority under clause (i) with respect to a chancery or consulate building.

        1. My Esoteric profile image85
          My Esotericposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry, that was covered in the Accountability Review Board; conclusion, the Benghazi facility was not covered by SECCA.  See http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

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      PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Is that you, Kim?

      https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/xrtxpwy1mxyoahltqypb.jpg

      1. Alternative Prime profile image63
        Alternative Primeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Obviously, she's IMAGINING another "PRETEND" Delusionary Private Meeting with the POPE ~

        Is she in Prison Yet where she belongs?

  23. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    If an American goes to Syria and joins ISIS and trains with them in jihad, their citizenship should be taken away from them. Please, sign the petition...
    http://aclj.org/radical-islam/protect-t … 41820424=1

    1. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
      Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

      Home grown Muslims of America.
      http://www.military.com/video/operation … 940716001/

  24. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/12711152.jpg

    The world in 2015.

  25. Sychophantastic profile image72
    Sychophantasticposted 9 years ago

    The level of stupidity in this forum is staggering. Obama is a Muslim? Seriously? Anybody with any brains knows that's not true.

    And all this outrage over email servers and Benghazi when the war in Iraq has killed how many thousands of people?

    And has anyone noticed unemployment and the stock market? Obama has done more for more of you than George W. Bush ever did. The country's economic situation has dramatically improved under Obama by any rational measure while disintegrating under Bush, but Obama is the evil traitor? And now most of you right-wingers would be thrilled to death with Jeb as president, a man who will simply continue his brother's disastrous policies and run the country right into the ground.

    The basic problem that most right-wing racists have is that they can't stand an America where disenfranchised people have a voice. They want all the muslims, jews, blacks, latinos, and women to shut the hell up and stop complaining.

    1. jeff61b profile image76
      jeff61bposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Of course Obama is a Muslim. Its just that from the moment of his birth he's been cleverly hiding all his Muslim allegiances by rejecting all tenets of the Muslim faith so he could run for president 47 years later - the sneaky bum.

      That's why he drinks alcohol, eats pork, never faces Mecca to pray, supports gay marriage and women's rights - all just to throw us off the track so we won't think he's secretly Muslim.

      He cleverly placed his own birth notice in Hawaiian newspapers and planted a fake birth certificate in the Hawaiian department of records so he could run for president and enact Sharia Law in the final year of his presidency. 

      And I'm pretty sure there's a picture with 2 year old Barack Obama in the background at Dealey Plaza in November of 1963.  Just sayin.

  26. Sychophantastic profile image72
    Sychophantasticposted 9 years ago

    You really have to be desperate to play the "Obama is a Muslim" card. I mean, really? That's the first card you're going to play?

    And much love to you, Jeff.

    1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
      Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      “The only proper functions of a government are: the police, to protect you from criminals; the army, to protect you from foreign invaders ... But a government that initiates the employment of force against men who had forced no one ... reverses its only moral purpose and switches from the role of protector to the role of man’s deadliest enemy, from the role of policeman to the role of a criminal vested with the right to the wielding of violence against the victims deprived of the right of self-defense.” ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged Vol. I,(Random House: New York, NY, 1957), Chapter 7,“The Exploiters and the Exploited,” p.3
      www.RaptureReady.com

      1. Sychophantastic profile image72
        Sychophantasticposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Ayn Rand is to political philosophy what Scientology is to religion.

  27. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    WASHINGTON – Sens. Mike Lee (R-UT), Ted Cruz (R-TX), and Marco Rubio (R-FL) issued the following statement Thursday in anticipation of Friday’s House vote on H.R. 3762:

    “On Friday the House of Representatives is set to vote on a reconciliation bill that repeals only parts of Obamacare. This simply isn’t good enough. Each of us campaigned on a promise to fully repeal Obamacare and a reconciliation bill is the best way to send such legislation to President Obama’s desk. If this bill cannot be amended so that it fully repeals Obamacare pursuant to Senate rules, we cannot support this bill. With millions of Americans now getting health premium increase notices in the mail, we owe our constituents nothing less.”

    Oct 22 2015

  28. profile image0
    PrettyPantherposted 9 years ago

    A person who advocates for shooting the President, in this forum, and is still allowed to post, is deserving of ridicule.  Those who continue to treat this person with respect, well, that's on them.

    My opinion, of course.

  29. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    The Obama administration continues to break the immigration laws. Allowing dangerous offenders sanctuary disregarding federal laws and the safety of American citizens.   Obama vetoed Kate's Law that would require sanctuary cities to follow federal laws with illegal immigrants.

    "This week, the fight against illegal immigration and the dangerous policy of sanctuary cities continued. Although we faced a hurdle when Senate Democrats blocked legislation cracking down on illegal immigration, I answered their senseless partisanship by placing Kate’s Law directly on the Senate calendar, making it immediately available for action on the Senate floor. This class of illegal aliens has a special disregard and disdain for our nation’s laws, and serious leadership is needed to right this country’s course."

    Treason is punishable by hanging.

    I disagreed with shooting.

    1. profile image0
      PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Have you checked your facts by independently sourcing the information?  Just wondering.

      Treason is defined as:
      Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
      (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)

      I took Alternative Prime to task for calling Republican obstructionism "treason."  That word gets thrown around a lot.

    2. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Treason is defined as:
      Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
      (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)


      Thank you, Kitty!

  30. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Boots on the ground at Benghazi, interview with American Ranger Kris Paronto. 
    A lot of planning had to go into the attack by men who were trained in warfare, weeks or months according to him.
    There was no protest and riot because of a video he says. 
    He and his guys were fighting on the ground all night.
    Only because they disobeyed orders to wait, to stand down.
    They were being told to not go do their jobs, he says. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4O-Mg4i7f4

    It was election time  and a cover up, he thinks was the governments reason. 
    He didn't want to say the administration because Republicans were in on it too. 
    Now they are calling him and the others who fought liers.   
    That sounds about right with our corrupt government leaders, to me.

  31. Thief12 profile image77
    Thief12posted 9 years ago

    So let me get this straight... what you want is only Christian presidents, which would be tantamount to a Christian state where everything is ruled by the Bible then... sorta similar to an Islamic state? where government and laws are ruled by Islam.

    Or is it only Muslims that you don't want as Presidents? would an Atheist President be allowed? or a Buddhist President? Muslims "might" be allowed in the country but they can't mingle in politics then? Is that what I understand? Sorta like everything that democracy isn't, and everything that the Constitution speaks against?

    So, which one is it?

    1. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Beliefs that run contrary to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are what I oppose.   Some tenets in the Islam ideology are contrary, polar opposite. 

      Islam isn't just a religion it is an ideology / form of government, and religion.

      1. profile image0
        jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Suzie, you said in another hub (or maybe earlier in this one) that you prefer hanging to shooting.  Is that Christian, and is it Constitutional?
        Another question for you:   Did you use your vote in the last Presidential elections?

        1. colorfulone profile image80
          colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I am not a Democrat or a Republican, I haven't voted for oh so many years.

          I didn't say I "prefer hanging to shooting" Jonny.
          Are you trying to put condemnation on me because I am a Christian? 
          God does not control what I say. I do.

          1. profile image0
            jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I stand corrected.  You merely stated, "Treason is punishable by hanging.  I disagreed with shooting."

            Ok, in response to your not having voted for years, how can you complain about your President if you have not exercised your right to vote in democratically held elections?

            What are you doing practically, in your every-day life, to work for the changes you would like to see?  Sitting at the computer and ranting on about the President and all those other problems of the world, is hardly likely to bring about those changes.  Especially when all you quote is from very questionable political bias.

            From what I see of President Obama, he is not averse to receiving criticism and considering alternative proposals.   Why don't you write to him personally and tell him your concerns?

            Have the courage of your convictions.

            1. colorfulone profile image80
              colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Rant?

              Speak or shout at length in a wild, impassioned way.
              A spell of ranting; a tirade.

              I do not rant on the forums. That is your perception. 
              I am actually a zen person, fairly calm mostly. 
              I am a critical thinker who likes to share what I read.

              I am a caregiver for my elderly Mom who has Alzheimer's, she is home bound and I have to be with her constantly...so I am home bound too.  Being online is an outlet for me. 

              Once in a while I may 'vent' but I do not "rant'. 

              Added: Obama is not my president, I didn't vote for him. 
              Plus, I realized long ago how the voting is fixed. 

              The changes I would like to see is more people waking up to what is going on.
              I sign petitions in hopes my name will count and share them on social sharing sites.  Etc.

              Goodnight! 

              P.S.  I'm a designer on Zazzle and build webpages.

              1. Credence2 profile image80
                Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Now, I have heard everything!

              2. profile image0
                jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Full respect to you for giving that care to your Mum.   Also, fine that your on-line hobby gives you respite and interest in life beyond the caregiver duties.   I hope you continue in this.
                But I feel you would get much more enjoyment if you cleared your mind of the political and religious straight jacket mode.
                Most people are friendly, genuine, wanting to make a positive difference in our modern world.  Only a very few take it upon themselves to latch onto negative feelings and judgmental psychology.

                1. colorfulone profile image80
                  colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I take time everyday to meditate and get outdoors to enjoy nature.  I live in the wilderness and spend time communing with wild life and taking walks in the woods, or around a park like yard. 

                  I'm an artist with creative projects that I attend to when I can. I am a photographer and use mostly my own photos on hubs.  I have a fairly new interest in finding ways to generate free electricity.  Lets see I cook three meals a day, do all of the house work and care for Mom.  Read, read, read...and write.

                  I am not in a political straight jacket.  That would be your perception once again, and incorrect. 

                  "Only a very few take it upon themselves to latch onto negative feelings and judgmental psychology." -- Aren't you glad there are only a few?

      2. Thief12 profile image77
        Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

        And how does Islam contradict the Constitution?

        1. colorfulone profile image80
          colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this
          1. Thief12 profile image77
            Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            So, what do you want me to do with those?

            1. colorfulone profile image80
              colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              You were asking for information.  I'm getting ready to shut down for the night, so I thought you would like to read and learn.

        2. Sgt Prepper profile image60
          Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Moslems are first and foremost Christ-deniers.  Across the ceiling of the Dome-on-the-Rock mosque are the words "Jesus is not the son of God." Their common greeting is "There is no god but Allah" and the appropriate response is "and Mohammed was his prophet".  Our nation was founded on Christian principles and our Constitution even contains the words " In the Year of Our Lord".  That "Lord" of ours can only be one man - Jesus.  Any questions?

          1. wilderness profile image76
            wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Most of the world dates with "BC" and "AD".  Does that mean the entire world is Christian based?

            And just what "Christian principles" do you refer to?  Go to church on Sunday?  Pray every day?  Read the bible daily?  I don't recall any of those in our laws at any time...

            1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
              Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Moslems never say AD or BC when referring to any era.

          2. Thief12 profile image77
            Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            So again, Sgt. Prepper, what you are demanding is a country where everybody is a Christian, and ruled by Christian beliefs, right?

  32. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    "They have a point. It’s just usually one that they aren’t willing to admit in public. The Jihad comes from the Koran. Every act of Muslim violence that is religiously sanctioned, from terrorism to rape, is derived from the Koran. If you ban incitement to violence against non-Muslims, you criminalize the Koran."

    Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam
    http://conservativepapers.com/news/2015 … ban-islam/

    It is an oxymoron.

    1. rhamson profile image71
      rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      While you are correct in assuming the violence that is allowed in the Quran is in fact in the text the meanings and restrictions are many. What you claim is misleading as ISIS has no authority to claim a Jihad more than Jim Jones had the right to kill all those followers at Jonestown. It is quite easy to put it to the test from the Quran if you want to.

      " Innocents - such as women, children, or invalids - must never be harmed, and any peaceful overtures from the enemy must be accepted."

      You should read this where it is outlined where terrorism is forbidden in the Quran.

      http://www.juancole.com/2013/04/islamic … orism.html

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you for that link, I did read it and several comments, and I conclude that its purpose is propaganda. Sure there are tenets as is written there but one must read between the lines knowing how they correlate with other tenets of the Quran to be able to think and see clearly. 

        Corruption of the Qur'an from within, "al-Tahreef" "Yuharifoon":  http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Corruption_of_the_Quran

        Who do you think planned, plotted and performed the attack in Benghazi? 
        If you will listen to the interview with Ranger Kris Paronto who was fighting all night on the ground during the attack in Benghazi you might take on a different view. Might not.  You can believe the propaganda.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4O-Mg4i7f4

        The Quran contains many verses promoting violence.
        http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran … olence.htm

        1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
          Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          The biggest difference between the Koran and the Bible is that the Bible is the Word of God.

          1. colorfulone profile image80
            colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Google this Sgt. "Muslim Leaders in Australia Say Banning Terrorism Will Ban Islam".

            They would seem to be spot on.  I cannot disagree with the Muslim leaders on this one.

            1. Thief12 profile image77
              Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Wait, so terrorism isn't banned? I didn't know it was that easy.

              1. colorfulone profile image80
                colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                +1
                I thought it was funny.  smile 
                (dry humor)

          2. Thief12 profile image77
            Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            And to them, the Quran is the word of their god, Allah. So who is right and who is wrong?

  33. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/12712457.jpg

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Sounds more like a bromide to me, not exactly a revelation or original thought. We all know this and wish that it were this simple

      "Knowledge is Good"
      by the founder of Faber College

  34. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    "Stop Islamic Indoctrination in School"
    Please sign the petition. 
    http://aclj.org/establishment-clause/st … 41880043=1



    http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/12712905.jpg

  35. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/12712913.jpg

    #Batman #Hoaxs #MassShootings  #GunControl
    Added: #Obama and maybe more...

    1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
      Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Kenyan-born Obama is the Dark Knight and Superman represents the Son of God.  The city of Metropolis owes its name to the silent-film with that title.

      1. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

        perhaps what is meant in this statement is that Obama is the Black Man and Superman represents the White resentment?

        1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
          Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Kenyan-born Obama's named and legal birth-father BHO Sr had a grandmother who was 100% Arab-Bedouin, which is Caucasoid, hence this usurper isn't even half-black and might even be slightly Jewish.

  36. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    "After grilling former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for 11 hours Thursday during her testimony before the House Select Committee on Benghazi, Chairman Trey Gowdy says he still can't identify "what she's taken responsibility for."

    Democrats will not help in the investigation one little bit.   
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gowdy … le/2574850

    I have to admit that I cannot either.

    1. My Esoteric profile image85
      My Esotericposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Then I would submit Gowdy is either deaf, partisan, or both.

      1. profile image0
        PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Hillary Clinton has repeatedly stated she takes full responsibility for the handling of the attack.  Repeatedly.  Full responsibility.  So, I'm not sure how that continues to be interpreted as not knowing what she has taken responsibility for.

        1. colorfulone profile image80
          colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Thing is no one can figure out WHAT she took responsibility for. The things she should have taken responsibility for, she passed off on someone else.  BUT, no one has lost a pay-check.

          1. profile image0
            PrettyPantherposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Well, if there is an incompetent employee, it is up to the boss to identify the deficiencies in their performance, and then decide if those deficiencies warrant dismissal.  So, if Hillary was deficient or criminal (as you have previously stated), then why hasn't the committee brought specific charges?  How many hours over how many sessions have they been looking for that smoking gun?  Why haven't they found it?  And, if they have found it, why haven't they taken action?

      2. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Let's see Trey Gowdy's home state is South Carolina that was recently flooded by Hurricane Joaquin. 

        What does Joaquin mean?  in Hebrew it literally means "lifted by Yahweh". Hmm?

        I wonder if Obama has a God complex. 

        "Engineering “1000 Year” Weather Catastrophes, The Reality Of Weather Warfare"
        http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/engi … r-warfare/

        1. profile image0
          jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Suzie, why do you keep quoting your own quote? 
          Are you serious when you say governments can manipulate hurricans?   What ever happened to the powers of the God you feel so strongly about?   Surely just one little prayer would bring down the pants of any delinquent government? 
          Oh, by the way, posting composite photograghs, where your President's head is placed on top, is not very clever - or funny.
          Don't blame him for the prison in Cuba.  He has obviously tried to close it, but you would need to look elsewhere for those awful people who set it up in the first place.  They even masquerade as wolves in sheep's clothing and hoodwink the shepherd.
          You could begin to heal the rift by welcoming a muslim family into your presence.  They are not all bad.  Just like not all christians are bad.  Some are really nice, friendly, caring, loving people.

  37. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/12713466.jpg

    Orange is the New Black.

    1. Thief12 profile image77
      Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      And what would the crimes be? smile

      1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
        Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Most recently Treason, but there's also that forged Hawaiian Birth Certificate on the White House website.  BHO was isn't even an American much less a "natural-born" citizen, not even of Kenya.  This man-of-lawlessness is a usurper at best and The Antichrist at worst.  This goofy, born-Italian, Jesuit, child-trafficking,  Luciferian pope is the False Prophet.  Within about eight months Shotgun Joe will be suddenly thrust into the presidency and he will appoint that commie, lesbian, witch Hellary our very first female VP.  Meanwhile BHO or a holographic image of him will chair the UN as king-despot of the world.  I hate Big Brother.

        1. Thief12 profile image77
          Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Wow, do you even read what you write after writing it? I'm not even gonna get into your last sentences, LOL... But in regards to the original question, treason in what?

          And although this has been beaten like a rotten, 7-year old dead horse :-) what evidence do you have to say Obama isn't an American?

          1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
            Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Again per the British Nationality Act of 1948 anyone born to a Brit anywhere in the world is automatically a 100% British Subject with no option for dual-citizenship. The 1952 US Code requires a parent, married to a foreigner, to have lived in the United States continuously for five years after the age of 14 to confer citizenship.  BHO's underaged pornstar mother was not yet 19 when she pooped out the turd in Kenya.  Later she married Lolo Soetoro who adopted Barry as a Moslem also precluding dual a citizenship.  The Fulbright scholarship for foreign students Soetoro-Obama used is the ultimate proof other than BHO's stole Connecticut SSN.

            1. Thief12 profile image77
              Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              I asked for evidence. Is your post evidence? We can print it and go to court.

              1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                The courts refuse to hear the case even when presented with documents our founders used to define "natural-born citizen" and an official Obama Birth Certificate smuggled out of Kenya in 2008 by Lucas D. Smith.  Please tell us what you think ever happened to the "birth certificate" a young Obama claimed he found with a newspaper article about his "father" on page 26 of "Dreams from My Father"!  Did it accidently(?) get shredded?

                1. Thief12 profile image77
                  Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  So... no evidence then?

                  1. colorfulone profile image80
                    colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    A lot of people researched it in and out for years. Hillary Clinton is the one who came out with birther when she was running for president against Obama.  You can imagine there is some bad blood between them.  She had made a special tip to Kenya for a unplanned visit to the place where old files were. Birth certificates, etc.  I do not remember the dates. Any sites that HAD the timeline of her actively are GONE.  If she has the evidence, Obama is going to exonerate her from Benghazi. Its likely she may have more evidence that is missing.

            2. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              This vulgarity in regards to President shows a  lack of civility and is hardly representative of the Christian and Christianity that you so vehemently profess.  What makes you think that Barack Obama fooled everybody with a scheme at birth to become President of the U.S. Don't you think that there are people far more qualified than you  who determined Mr. Obama eligibility for the office? That this issue was not throughly vetted prior to his even considering the 2008 run? Refering to the President's mother as a prostitute and calling him excrement is outside the bounds of polite conversation and reasonable debate, you should go check yourself.

              Why after centuries of conclusive proof that the world is in fact round that there always remain a remnant that insists that it is flat, and continue to do so without  presenting any credible evidence to support their position. What am I to think about people like that?

              1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Well for starters you are the one who has been duped.  I am not alone.  Others before me concluded BHO is the Antichrist even before he was selected President by an evil-cabal of the global-elite.  BirtherReport.com has thousands(literally) of articles from news sources around the world over the past seven years revealing this fraud called Obama.  Here's another big clue: global-warming is the biggest lie since evolution.  If the bulk of the populace can be made to believe those things I pointed out and that Moslem-terrorists were somehow responsible for the 9/11 "attacks" what is so unbelievable about putting a forged Hawaiian Birth Certificate on whitehouse.gov?

                1. rhamson profile image71
                  rhamsonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I have a son who was born in Hawaii and his birth certificate looks just like Obamas. Ask Trump. He made a fool out of himself trying to prove the same thing. What a waste of time.

                  1. wilderness profile image76
                    wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    But "experts" have determined (within minutes of the certificate being made public) that it is a forgery.  There are multiple "layers" in it, don't ya know?

                    Besides, as the antichrist, Obama can do magic and make Hawaii produce any certificate he likes.  Don't ya know?

                    And the earth isn't warming and the CIA plotted 911, masterminded by Bush.    Just about everybody knows these things, don't ya know?

          2. Alternative Prime profile image63
            Alternative Primeposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Thief12 ~

            As usual, just like the Great WASTE of Time & 5 MILLION in Tax Dollars on that Benghazi Committee SHAM, republicans have no evidence ~

            EXCEPT of course what they "CLAIM" is a "Forged" Birth Certificate lol ~ Who dosen't have one of those ~ smile

            Wait until republicans find out Dr. Ben Carson is BLACK, I mean REALLY Black smile I hope he has his BC dusted off and in Good Order for the Insane CONservative Inquiry smile ~

  38. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Obama doesn't mind using the platform to promote Muslim- Islam. 

    I guess if it's okey with him, its okey for me as a Christian. 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

    There is no condemnation.

    1. Thief12 profile image77
      Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      LOL, context and interpretation. Besides, what if Obama was a Muslim? How would that change the 6-7 years he has already spent as President?


      EDIT: Let's see if you answer this one, cause you didn't answer the previous question smile

  39. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    "Dr. Benjamin Carson's Amazing Speech at the National Prayer Breakfast"
    He wipes the smile off of Obama's face, who was present. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFb6NU1giRA

  40. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    You ask  silly questions that do not interest me enough to answer.  Yawn!

    1. Thief12 profile image77
      Thief12posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Well, you make silly posts to begin with. But anyway, it's too bad that you can't get into an informed and intelligent discussion to back up whatever arguments you're trying to make. If you can't even do that, well, I don't see the point of you joining a community. Good luck listening to yourself go blah-blah-blah big_smile

  41. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Hurricane Patrica did devastating damage to Mexico. It was the strongest hurricane in history.
    Category 5 storm—the highest rating on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale.

    Why is Hurricane Patricia a conspiracy theory? 
    Was Hurricane Patricia predicted?
    Was climate engineering, HAARP Chemtrails used?
    Ever wonder WHY Obama harps on "climate change"?

    "Hurricane Patricia, Weather Warfare, Power Structure Desperation, And Climate Disintegration"
    http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/hurr … tegration/ 

    Government Implements Illegal “Gag Order” On National Weather Service And NOAA Employees
    http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/

    "Bill Hopkins, the executive vice president for the National Weather Service employees organization (NWSEO) said this:"

    “As a taxpayer, I find it highly disturbing that a government agency continues to push gag orders to hide how they operate. This is the work of the American government, owned by the American public, and should be open to the American public.”

    "Jeff Ruch, the executive director "PEER" (Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility) said this about the "gag orders".

    “The National Weather Service is about the last place where national security-style secrecy rules need to be enforced,” Ruch noted that the broad scope of the gag orders put much of what goes on inside the agency under wraps.  “Everyone is free to talk about the weather except for the people working inside the National Weather Service. Go figure.”
    http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/12713547.jpg

    Did The Simpsons predict Hurricane Patrica?   
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1egMXeiHi4

    I know this is going to be a big stretch for some to even entertain, but I am fascinated with geoengineering.   

    What would the motive be? 

    "Mexico oil companies threatened the Rothschild's Zionist Establishment by dropping the US Fiat Currency as the main exchange currency for oil by adopting the Yuan. Not as soon after the corrupt Rothschild banking mafia retaliated by slamming the Mexican coast with the strongest hurricane on record!" - Illuminati Killers
    wink

    1. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      This is the topic that is of interest and should be for anyone who is interested in weather warfare. 

      The government can manipulate hurricanes.  Remember there was an illegal gag order put on NOAA, so the government has gone underground to cover up the truth, anything new there? 
      http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hrd_sub/sfury.html

    2. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      "Geoengineering: Hurricane Patricia - Texas Flooding" Video
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq6FoSQXr44

      More to come... smile

    3. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      My thanks to Steve Grimwood for finding the COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION UNITED STATES SENATE documents dated MAY 1978.

      "How big does the climate engineering elephant in the room need to be before it can no longer be hidden in plain site? How much more historical proof do we need of the ongoing climate engineering/weather warfare before the denial of the masses crumbles?"

      The documents tell of the evil of weather modification, weather warfare, cloud seeding and droughts, and climate modification being done by the U.N. and the global governments including the US is in on it. 

      http://tatoott1009.com/2015/10/26/proof … ry-weapon/

      Conspiracy theory?  No, no, no, not a theory.  Defiantly a conspiracy.
      In my honest opinion.

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Scientists Claim Chemtrails are "Accidental Geoengineering"
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHJgV6JQVd0

        This is about the biggest confirmation from the scientific community as we can get.  This is geoengineering.  "Accidental"? ... yeah right! 

        'Chemtrails" admitted to be influencing the weather.. quote the officials... 'accidentally'.... officially they're calling it unintentional cloud seeding via jet fuel aerosol byproducts producing ice crystals in the atmosphere which is changing weather patterns.

        In other words, MAN MADE CLOUDS coming from jets made of POLLUTION are now confirmed to be influencing the weather.

        If you've been paying attention to the skies, you already know this but for the DENIERS (and those who ignore these things).. now there is no excuse for not knowing.

        Clouds seeded with jet fuel. THIS IS WORSE than them 'spraying' silver iodide... at least we know the substance in regular rain cloud seeding (silver iodide).... with jet fuel clouds causing rainfall .. who knows what is in those different jets cocktail mixtures of fuel from all over the world?

        COP21 Agreement: Climate Change Paris talks
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hkVCSYq0gA

        Common sense would be more trees and plants before geoengineering.  But, the agreement does talk about ending forest lose by 2030 which I do agree with.  As it turns out a couple of guys have a patent on an invention that can suck CO2 out of the atmosphere.  Good for them!

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    PrettyPantherposted 9 years ago

    This thread:

    http://i.ytimg.com/vi/NrlrUy9Avmc/maxresdefault.jpg

    If you have the courage of your convictions, then you should be willing to answer questions about them.  Otherwise, why are you here?  This is not the echo chamber you are accustomed to.

  43. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Its simple Gematria to figure out the symbolic numerology codes for words. CNN is the best weather channel to get those codes.  BECAUSE they are in on the weather warfare. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj9vWJo1_Lc

    Who owns CNN?  Turner Broadcasting System.

    Who controls the news?
    http://www.illuminati-news.com/Articles/05.html

  44. TMICONDEV profile image60
    TMICONDEVposted 9 years ago

    No government in USA can lawfully discriminate in religion, or The founders would have banned Christians from office long ago in the beginning of USA, but they wanted a freedom of religion to exist and also would have ran afoul of some of the powerful colonies right away,so they didn't try it. As a voter though, you (and your friends) CAN make that decision and withhold your votes from candidates you believe may have different religious ideas than yourself.

  45. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    The Time Line of the Benghazi Attack. 
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/06/politics/ … -timeline/

    12:07 a.m., September 12: The State Department sends an e-mail to the White House, the Pentagon and the FBI indicating the Islamic militant group Ansar al-Sharia claimed credit for the attack.

    No help came.

    The events taking place on the ground in Benghazi did not fit the Obama Administration’s account of the events for how the Middle East was evolving.  The way to turn attention from the truth of the course of his failed foreign policies was to shift the blame of the Benghazi attack on a video. 

    Obama will not take responsibility for anything. Nothing new. I hadn't seen the time line before.  Just thought some else might be interested in the facts.

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Suzie, when will you take full responsibility for what you read, after determining where it comes from, the biases that are attached AND the bias you personally hold in deciding it's what you want to read?
      You are right, I suspect, in thinking there are some evil forces in this world.  But I very much doubt that evil resides in your President. 
      Again, look to your own bias.

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Jonny, when will you stop nit picking and open your mind to the truth?

        The American Center for Law & Justice will tell you the same, and go after Obama in court. 
        http://aclj.org/national-security/five- … ll-matters

        He should go to prison for this deception.

        1. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          The source for your link is anything other than  an unbiased source of information and it fails to make your case any more convincing

          1. colorfulone profile image80
            colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            We are in a public forum.  What "case"? 
            Did we slip into a different dimension, and we are IN court now? wink   
            Sorry if the information I post does not interest you.

            Here try this.  "These days it seems everyone on the Internet who presents an idea or hypothesis on anything from human origins to modern politics gets thrashed by the peanut gallery."
            http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/09/17 … -is-a-lie/

            I like it!  smile

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              jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Yes, your are indeed in a public forum!!!!!
              When you start looking for those forces of evil in the world, start with your favorite sources.

            2. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Of course I am not going to like it as tainted by Evangelical Christian types who certainly have an agenda.

              Of course, you like it, could I have expected anything less?

            3. Sgt Prepper profile image60
              Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              And I like it too.  The undisputed fact that in 1981 CIA Director William Casey told a new President Reagan "The disinformation program will continue until everything the American people believe is a lie." is still disheartening.  I highly recommend a work of dystopian fiction(?) book titled "Agenda-21".  For fun I watch " Last Man on Earth" on FOX.  Too bad Fox News is run by the same folks who run NPR & the BBC.  The Bible contains everything we need to know. I hate Big Brother.

    2. colorfulone profile image80
      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this
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        Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks for the info about Benghazi & Israel and for coming to my defense earlier. Hope you get some face-time with likeminded fellow-believers.  It is very lonely when you can see the truth and terrible tidings but nobody believes you or even seems to care.  That is why I don't believe we can stop Kenyan-born Obama and his kind but have to rely on God and His supernatural means of justice.  I refuse to forgive Bathhouse Barry for his trespasses against the U.S. of A. and it is hard to accept a loving God would allow this son of perdition BHO into our White House.

        1. colorfulone profile image80
          colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          You are welcome, Sgt.  Aw, don't sweat the small stuff and let it get under your skin.  I like the saying, "Have a good day unless you have other plans". I have been having a great day, its been very positive for me.  I also love the teachings of Bruce Lee, "Be water, my friend."  We must have yen and yang to find balance. 

          I listened to this video earlier that you may enjoy, I was strongly encouraged by it.
          "Shocking Discovery! Brand New Portal, Gateway To Another Dimension Unearthed! Wait Until You See What Is Waiting Behind It!"
          http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/09/14 … dimension/

          It explains why the Vatican sued to put telescope Lucifer on Mt Graham? Interesting. 
          http://www.conspiracyclub.co/2015/09/14 … dimension/

          Maybe those who talk about aliens coming to earth are right.  wink

          1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
            Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Fallen Angels is another term for extra-terrestrials.  I hear there are grays, insectoids and reptilians such as Queen Elizabeth.  Have you looked into the "Whistleblower Kids" 8YO Gabriel & 9YO Alysa MacKenzie who went to devil-worship with their father at a grade-school in New Zealand where they were repeatly sexually assaulted and participated in baby sacrifice?  The Mohawk orphanage children in mass-graves in Canada?  I am convinced pink-slime contains the flesh of sacrificed (goyim?) children.  Did you know both popes Francis & Benedict were required to join The Ninth Circle luciferians?

            1. colorfulone profile image80
              colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Yes, I read about those "Whistleblower Kids". I don't know who would make that up.

              Its very sad about the many, many Native American genocides in Canada and US. 

              Did not run across popes Francis & Benedict being required to join The Ninth Circle luciferians. I'm looking at that now.  Who knows for sure? 

              What do you mean by "pink-slime"?

              1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Several years ago a Reverend Wickstrom interviewed a Rabbi Finkelstein who claimed that annually thousands of goyim children(of all races) are kidnapped and sacrificed for their innocent-blood, which is then mixed with mahtso, and the flesh is sent to Cargill, McDonalds & Walmart to mix with ground meats.  The MacKenzie children made very similar statements concerning school lunches and Starbuck's.  Human flesh and partial limbs of children have been discovered in McDonalds trailers and a meat locker in Oklahoma.  This activity has been going on  for hundreds, if not thousands, of years and occurs in Denver, Montreal, Hampstead, NZ, and is conducted by Talmudic Jews and possibly Jesuits.  FYI - per David Icke reptilians must consume human-blood in order to shape-shift into a human like members of the Royal-family.

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                  jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Sgt, you're an encyclopedia.  So much knowledge....are you running for President?  At least you will get Suzie's vote.

                  1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                    Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    I do consider myself a walking-encyclopedia.  Nerd that I am I have read a small library, an entire encyclopedia, the unabridged Robinson Crusoe ten times, two dictionaries, an almanac, the Bible and one phonebook.  Trivial Pursuit is the only game I am exceptionally good at and even know some of the sports category.
                    If it turns out that somehow Obama is NOT the Antichrist then I know nothing and my life was wasted.

                2. Credence2 profile image80
                  Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  This is NUTS! I am afraid that your life has been wasted because Obama is not the Anti-Christ! Why are the people whose soundness of mind is always in question  found at the Political Right?

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                  colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Makes me wonder what an abortionist was going to do with 14 containers of aborted baby tissue. He was caught because of an investigation after he hit a child with his car recently.  Sickening.

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                    Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    In May of 2012 a ship from China containing thousands of pills made from human-flesh was seized by Korean customs.  These were likely destined for the bodysnatchers who walk among us.  They live.

  46. Vic Dillinger profile image59
    Vic Dillingerposted 9 years ago

    So?

    1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
      Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      So BHO is more white than black and he meets the criteria for those who believe The Antichrist must be Jewish.  Since Assyria once stretched to Kenya this usurper could even be construed as of Syrian ancestry.  Mohammed was the son of a Jewish rabbi so being a Jewish-Moslem makes sense for Bathhouse Barry too.

      1. Credence2 profile image80
        Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

        BHO is more white than Black huh? If you would have seen Obama's Al Green imitation you would know that he is 100 percent African American.  What does that have to do with being Jewish, this is tin-foil hat stuff, from where does it derive? So the Pope is the false prophet because he did not go along with the Right's idiocy regarding Iran negotiations and extolling the virtues of Capitalism without criticism.

  47. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    The government needs to prove the likelihood of three steel sky scrapers collapsing on 9/11 because of fire, it is something that has never happened before to a steel building.

    Scientists and chemists need to prove the improbability of what the government says happened, and prove how those three buildings did collapse.

    NIST and FEMA reports are pure BS according to the scientist on the video.

    A thermographer used a FLIR Infrared ThermoCam to take photos when the planes hit the buildings.  The evidence shows how hot the fires were on the Twin Towers that only burned for 10 minutes up top where the planes hit.

    A photo of a woman standing right where one of the planes had crashed into the building is proof that there was no fire soon after impact. 

    An underground fire burned for 99 days.

    Termete and cutter charges were used according to science and chemistry.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PawC4u1U7k

    Maybe there will be a day in court yet.

    1. Credence2 profile image80
      Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      This may not be so 'tin hat', the circumstances surrounding this event are not all crystal clear. There are forces and groups that could and would be more than willing to orchestrate the 9/11 thing for political gain and to foment the masses into a rage and fury not seen since Pearl Harbor allowing pursuit of a geopolitical agenda or goal that would not otherwise pass the smell test with public opinion.

      I am still bothered by the 'single bullet' theory aspect of the JFK assassination, but thats me.

      1. colorfulone profile image80
        colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        It would be a good thing if some accountability can be placed on the 9/11. 
        Families need closure. New Yorkers need closure. We all do. 
        For JFK too, but that has been so many years of cover up.

        1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
          Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Jeb's brother Marvin Bush was head of the WTC security until his contract expired on 9/11/2001.  What a coincidence.  I sincerely doubt that patsy Oswald even fired a single bullet.  Posing as a hobo, Texas-mob hitman, Charles Harrelson(Woody's father) from a building, E.Howard Hunt from behind the grassy knoll and Johnny Roselli from the storm drain all did.  That is why umbrella-man gave the signal while he shaded the drain and afterward walked slowly away toward the schoolbook depository like nothing happened while everybody else was running or seeking cover.  Notice too how the police motorcycle was dropped to hide the drain!  Dealey Plaza is a Freemason monument to begin with...hello?

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        jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        For me, it's time to Unfollow.

        1. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Johnny, I trust that I did not offend in my latest comment.....

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            jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Not at all.  I too wonder who the tyrants really were/are.
            Those who stir up hatred just to serve their own ulterior motives are no better as far as I can understand.
            The distrust that has built up in our minds is the biggest loss.  How do we build a better world?

            1. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Thanks, Johnny. Here in America there is a military industrial complex that I believe must perpetuate itself by creating boogey men and a continuous national adversary, imaginary or not. For most of the 20th century, it was international communism, more defense contractors, weapons and international deployment with big money tied in. It took 55 years to rid ourselves of this 'thing' about Cuba. The multinationals and financial interests have a tremendous amount of power here through lobbies and congressmen that are routinely bought off. The economic dynamoes  are not interested in Democracy, but are interested in profits regardless of whose ox they may gore.  I could reference the "Citizens United"? case where corporations and their contributions are the equivalent of the individual citizen in a political campaign.

              So after 9-11, we all got mobilized for a war that seems never to end. Is it possible to have an American economy without war or the constant build up for the same? Is the goal defense or economic hegemony? Is securing the petroleum industry for a few greedy capitalists worth a man's life? Those are the kinds of questions the powers that be just as soon you do not ask, because you won't like the answer. But a Pearl Harbor type of assault, one that will get the blood boiling and have us all willingly marching in cadence to the drumbeat of war might do the trick.  WWII lasted only 6 years.

              While I think President Obama was more of an impediment to their design than say a Romney or Bush, in the face of such power and influence his ability to shake things up was limited.

              I have not lost faith, but I recognize that there are nefarious forces driven by greed and power attempting to buy out the political system to increase their leverage and advantage over the vast majority of the American people. We have to be eternally vigilent in the face of such an awsome influence.

              They are ruthless and as with the JFK murder can arrange to have all pertinent evidence disappear. I am not sure about 9/11, but I would not put skullduggery past those that would have us all believe a standard line.

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              colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              911 never made sense to most people, the brain goes on tilt when watching something with a nonlinear explanation.  A + B does not = C.  There had to be other things in place.  We've been entertained enough by watching building demolitions (and that is what the towers appeared to be) that were independent of the plane crashes.  The crashes played well to the world.  It could still be all al-Qeada with a multi-point plan that included the drama of the planes which were very dramatic.  I highly doubt it especial when planes are hijacked. What the government tells us officially is not necessarily the whole truth and shouldn't be due to national security concerns. 

              I hope that I haven't offended you. I have not taken any offence toward you.

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                jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Suzie, I don't take offense, thank you.   

                I have recently seen on TV a scientific explanation that is most probably more along the lines of truth and what really happened on 9/11. 

                Quite apart from the suicidal and fanatical objectives of the people who flew those planes into the buildings, I get the impression events proceeded at a pace and intensity which the perpetrators did not intend or expect.   In the very early first few hours after the event, Osama Bin Ladin was reported as being surprised and disclaiming responsibility.  This has been overlooked in later reporting, as far as I can make out.  It is 14 years ago now, but if my memory serves me correct, it was not until a few days later that he (they) claimed responsibility and gained publicity for their cause as a result.

                You can read for yourself the various theories about Aluminium/Water explosion, plus all the argument about how the buildings collapsed, etc.  It looks like people only believe whatever they want to believe, then try to find a scientific version that fits their beliefs.

                But honestly, hanging onto the doubts and arguments only delays the point where we can let it be and move on in life.  Deal with each situation of Today that requires maximum attention.  We cannot do anything to change the past, but we can exert our good sense to help heal the wounds today.....and prepare for a brighter Tomorrow.

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                  colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I remember that about Osama Bin Ladin. As I said before I am a critical thinker and like to connect dots, like putting pieces of puzzles together. 

                  One thing that concerns me is the US selling predator drones to the United Arab Emirates that the government is not giving full disclosure on.

                  http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/12715171.jpg

                  We are rapidly moving towards Star Wars?  Maybe, maybe not. 

                  I'm glad you do not take offence, it makes it easier to let things roll off our backs instead of carrying dead weight.  We don't have to be divided even with all the propaganda we get feed for that purpose it seems.  I like unity. 

                  My brother and I are polar opposites on a lot of things, and he is fast and furious to throw insults my way when we discuss those kind of topics.  I don't throw mud, but I will call things as I see them. There is always the flip side of a coin that I often forget about. He is right a lot of the time and I like getting his perspective. He gets over it, and I heal.  We love each other.

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        Larry Wallposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I am not an expert in building construction. However, I know about 15 to 20  years ago a coke cracker at the Exxon Refinery in Baton Rouge exploded. A coke cracker takes the solid part of a barrel of oil, left over after getting the gasoline, light oils and various chemicals. The coke is then put in the coker and the last bit of oil is squeezed from it.  The remaining solid is shipped overseas where it is used like coal as fuel. Those cokers had been operating for years with annual maintenance. At some point, a section of stainless steel pipe was replaced with a section or ordinary chrome steel pipe--they look the same. You have to check weight and several other things. How the pipe was improperly used and by whom remains unknown to my knowledge. No one was killed or seriously injured. However, the incorrect piece of pipe caused the explosion in a manner you would not expect. Suicide air planes hit the Twin Towers. There are all kinds of pictures touched up with Photoshop circulating the Internet. In cases like these, a picture is not worth a thousand words because it is useless.

        Accidents happen. Most of the time they should not, and some are unavoidable. Furthermore, there are times when people do bad things to other people. The Twin Towers was one of those cases.

        Bad things happen. Some are worse than others. However, it is foolish to think that there is a conspiracy behind every historical even or natural occurrence. I live in South Louisiana. I would like to think there is a guy operating a wind machine that causes Hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico, like Katrina and Rita ten years ago--but I know that person and device does not exist so I will calk it up to natural causes.

        1. Credence2 profile image80
          Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Larry, I am not certainly not looking for conspiracies around every corner, I did say later that I am not certain about the circumstances concerning the attack on the twin towers to speak with authority. Bad things do happen naturally, but some things have been and were 'helped along' some, as we know only as much as we are told. It is inevitable that there is always going to be some doubt.

          The JFK murder for example, did all the physics associated with bullet trajectories and such as described by the Warren REport make sense to everyone? Such reasonable doubt of the official version was and is warrented.

          I see that you are leaving, sorry to see you go!

          1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
            Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I am not sorry as there really are people who can't handle the truth and will just start yelling "tinfoil hat","racist" or "conspiracy nut" when confronted with it.  Anyone who would swallow the Report of the 9/11 Commission or Warren Report whole has been consuming way too much fluoride.

            1. Credence2 profile image80
              Credence2posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              There is a big difference between

              1963 JFK assassination and physical evidence that contradicts the findings of the Warren Report.

              2001 Attacks on the Twin Towers in New York, while I believe there is less reason and evidence to conflict with the 'official version', there are some questions being raised by reasonable people

              2015 Sgt. Prepper- Obama is the Anti-Christ and the Pope is the false prophet? Besides your perspective what evidence is there? Obama will be in office for only 14 months, whatever you say he is supposed to do will have to happen fast

              1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Of all the false-flags and frauds most Americans have swallowed whole hook, line & sinker Bathhouse Barry's legality was the easiest to pull off.  Pearl Harbor put us into World War Two and cost hundreds of thousands of American lives. Millions of people were effected.  Billions of dollars were made by Ford, Willys, Porsche, Mitsubishi, Douglas Aircraft and Big Oil.  Pearl Harbor wasn't the first false-flag event and 9/11 wasn't the last.  Get ready for some other nonsense the evil-cabal of global-elite will foist upon us!  Kenyan-born Obama still wants to outlaw firearm ownership so that will be the desired result.

            2. colorfulone profile image80
              colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              When you get right down to the nitty gritty...YOU and I are water, matter and electrons! We vibrate at an energy, sound and light frequency many of us are unaware of and/or not open to the ramifications of how it affects our effectiveness, our consciousness and our enjoyment of the life experience. We can and do tune to and attract certain people/animals/sounds and art whose energy vibration is similar to ours... and by the same token we recognize that we just don't fit with the people/animals/sounds and art, etc that we don't sync with.

              GA=440Hz: Is not Quite Music to My Ears ~ Humankind is apparently the largely unwitting victim of a frequency war on our consciousness that has been waged for decades, if not millennia. It's kind'a like politicians changing from Daylight Savings Time... Only politicians and power mongers like Hitler would seek to change the naturally occurring frequency of the universe! The goal has clearly been to keep us as gullible and subservient as possible, through multifarious means, all part of this huge resonant system, participating in dynamic feedback loops with intelligent subsystems such as the sun, the moon and the earth. Our sense of separation is strictly a brain-based “grand illusion.” Even for one like me who has some hearing disability, tuning at the right frequency enhances the ability to communicate... as well as the enjoyment of the sensory experience whether auditory, visual or otherwise.

              It makes me feel like a genie-pig, but is worthy of some contemplation.
              "The A=432 Hz Frequency: DNA Tuning and the Bastardization of Music"
              http://themindunleashed.org/2015/09/the … music.html

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              Sychophantasticposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              How did that Jade Helm theory work out for you?

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                Sychophantasticposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                I'm sure the evil Jews theory is coming next.

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    Thief12posted 9 years ago

    Sooooo... what is this thread about?? hummm...

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      colorfuloneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/12714247.jpg

      We all get off topic, don't we. 
      Shall I crack the whip?  smile

      You can add your own text.

      1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
        Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        "He's on a Mission from God".

        Too bad Obama is slated to become Dictator of the World.

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          wildernessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          So was the Taliban.  And so is ISIS now.  So were the crusades and the witch hunters.  All on a "mission from God".

          1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
            Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            So were The Blues Brothers.  If it should somehow turn-out that Kenyan-born Obama is NOT The Antichrist I will be pleasantly mortified.  I will be eating a LOT of crow served cold.  I will have to close all my internet accounts and apologize to MANY relatives, in-laws, friends and the entire membership of my once-Baptist church.  One former co-worker will expect a $100 cash.  The one thing that is most certain about Bathhouse Barry is that he could not possibly be construed a natural-born citizen.  Not even of Kenya.

            1. Sychophantastic profile image72
              Sychophantasticposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              You fully believed this whole Jade Helm is the beginning of some huge government takeover theory. What happened there? If Obama was really born in Kenya, don't you think there'd be a witness by now? That's the problem with all these stupid theories - if they were actually true, there would be credible evidence to back them up. Obama wants to take your guns? How does some common sense gun control morph into "he wants to take our guns?" First of all, that could never, ever happen in this country. Are you not familiar with the second amendment? Crazy people are rarely aware that they're crazy.

              1. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Compromise & "consensus" are code-words for surrender a little at a time.  Grandma Sarah Obama and a half-bro were present in the Mombasa hospital when you the turd was pooped out.  Thank God for the fact "Keep&Bear" means own and CARRY for such a time as this.  Jade Helm was just practice on American soil for the UN's new Project-2030 & Antichrist BHO will soon make an Executive Order to confiscate our lawfully owned firearms.  The real reason we are searching houses in Iraq & Afghanistan is to learn how to do it here. Get saved before The Rapture!  Those left behind are as good as dead.  Why would Sheriff Arpaio, Dr. Taitz, Jerome Corsi, Pat Boone, Alan Keyes, Trump and a host of other honorable patriots lie about Bathhouse Barry's legality?  Why would Obama?  And he used to be very proud of his Kenyan-birth.  What happened there?

                1. Sychophantastic profile image72
                  Sychophantasticposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Nothing happened with Jade Helm. You should get some counseling. I really feel quite sad for you as going around being so upset and paranoid cannot be a happy existence.

              2. Sgt Prepper profile image60
                Sgt Prepperposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Words like moderate, compromise, consensus and "common sense gun control" are just code for surrendering a little at a time.  Thank God "Keep & Bear" means own and CARRY for such a time as this!  Jade Helm, like Iraq and Afghanistan, was just practice for the UN Project-2030 on American soil.  Antichrist BHO or an acting-president Biden will soon make an Executive Order to confiscate firearms and stockpiled food.  All part of their big plan for the NWO.
                Grandma Sarah Obama and a half-bro were present in the Mombasa hospital when that turd Barack Jr was pooped out.  Why would honest patriots like Pat Boone, Jerome Corsi, Alan Keyes, Dr. Taitz, delivery Doctor Alan Schecter, Sheriff Arpaio, Trump and a host of otherslieabout their president's legality?  Why would Bathhouse Barry lie about it?  The answer is obvious.  BHO used to be very proud of his Kenyan-birth. What happened there?

                1. Sychophantastic profile image72
                  Sychophantasticposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Martial-law is coming to America this year under the guise of Operation Jade Helm-15.

                  Well?

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                    jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    I put the question:  Is it reasonable exercise of "free speech" for an American citizen to refer to his President as a "turd?"  To my mind, it refects upon the free, democratic choices of many people who elected that President.  Insulting and offensive yet achieving nothing useful.
                    At least a turd can serve a useful purpose when "Humanure composted" and returned to the soil as useful fertilizer.  That's more than you can say for the Sgt's discourse.

  49. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    I thought you were going to start playing nice Jonny.
    I guess I was hopeful.  Now I am disappointed.  sad

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      jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I was getting more comfortable about your recent statements, but then you drop back into that peddling-of-doom mode.  So I resort to the humerous - sorry if you don't like a laugh.

  50. colorfulone profile image80
    colorfuloneposted 9 years ago

    Just showing how dishonest CBS News is getting on the campaigner trail.  The photoshop on a photo of Ben Carson is pathetic to sink to.  YouTube video of the liberal news.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fLVniC … e=youtu.be
    CBS seems to be shilling for ratings. 
    http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/12716549.jpg

    New York Times/CBS News poll is actually:
    Ben Carson 26%
    Donald Trump 22%

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