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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Out of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Updated figures of Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war began. Only 53, or 2.4 percent, of the 2,194 total are Christians. (Data: State Department Refugee Processing Center)
By comparison, Syria’s population breakdown in early 2011, before the civil war’s death toll and refugee exodus roiled the demographics, was 90 percent Muslim (including Sunnis, Shia, Alawites and Druze) and 10 percent Christian, according to the CIA World Factbook.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pat … e-admitted

President Obama said Monday that calls from some quarters for the U.S. to admit only Christian refugees from Syria were “shameful,” yet the reality is that today’s refugee system discriminates, not against Syrian Muslims, but against Christians and other non-Muslim minorities.

Well, there goes any shred of respect for Obama that I may have had left hiding somewhere. Talk about a bigot! Un-presidential and un-American.

He did say that he would stand with Muslims, didn't he?

Our immigration service will ask what our religious affiliation is when you apply for entrance into the United States . To say other wise is a big lie. Our government knows full well who is Islamic and who is Christian. The Obama administration is selecting Islamic Muslims over Christian Muslims deliberately. The question now is why?

Of course a refugee has a religious test question when they claim they are running from their home because of religious persecution they have to state facts therefore naming the religion and who and why they are wanting refugee status.
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  wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  This time Obama is right - it is absolutely in a country based on freedom, including freedom of religion, to apply a religious test to immigrants. And twice as bad to apply it to refugees driven from their own country. I'll go on to say that calls for "registering" Muslims is even worse.
  
  Such trash makes us no better than ISIS, fighting to make a land obey their god and their religion. Pathetic and pitiful.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Wilderness, it is the Christian Muslims who are suffering the greatest persecution in the Middles East. They are being crucified, beheaded, sold as sex slaves, or imprisoned and tortured. That is why people are suggesting that only Christian Muslim refugees be allowed into the US right now. They are being murdered, they are in desperate need. I happen to care.
  
  We can all be 100% certain: The Mainstream Media is made up almost entirely by Left Wing Liars, who will stop at nothing to destroy anyone who disagrees with them, truth be damned. Christians are not normally lying left-wing Democrats so the MSM are silent, along with the WH.
  
  If you think this is trash, pathetic and pitiful then you are all that you say.
  May God forgive you!
  
  Speaker of the House Paul Ryan said "President Obama is "playing politics" with the refugee program."
  
  ADDED:
  Article by Sheri Oz, (owner of www.israeldiaries.com, is a retired psychotherapist and family therapist from Haifa, Israel.) Very good article! Raises a lot of very specific points with examples.
  Please take the time to read.
  http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/good-luc … sa-canada/
  
  The Islamic State CRUCIFIES thousands of Christians - See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/the-isl … 3kqqw.dpuf
  
  Syrian Christians Cry ‘Jesus!’ Before ISIS Mass Beheading
  http://www.breitbart.com/national-secur … beheading/
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  GA Andersonposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  What is a Christian Muslim? Someone who practices a belief in both Allah, and, Jesus and God?
  
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  An Islamic Muslim who converts to Christianity, born-again. They call themselves Christians.
  
  Its too bad we have to put word labels on everything so that we can communicate, but that's how it is. To say a Syrian Christian Muslim refugee doesn't say anything about where a person is actually from, just where they fled to. Sometimes I find the English language restrictive.
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  GA Andersonposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks for your response Colorfulone,
  
  I only asked such a pointed question because the issue is so pertinent to what I see as my American heritage. The folks you speak of are not Christian Muslims, they are Christians of Arab/Persian/Middle East heritage. I think it is an important point to note.
  
  I understand the fearful gut-reaction to these Syrian refugees, but the popular exclusionary reaction, while based on the reality that it could happen, is just fear-mongering. The wrongness of the Japanese internment of WWII is our historical lesson that following base emotional reactions is seldom the correct path. And I refuse to allow my base instincts to rule my common sense. I am determined to learn from history's lessons. A point which fear-mongers hope to obscure.
  
  I am not an Obama cheerleader, but on this issue, I think he more American than any of those that voted for the anti-Syrian refugee legislation.
  
  Just sayin'
  
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I enjoyed reading your post. Thanks for schooling me once again. You are a gentleman.
  
  I would agree that Obama is being American ... IF it were not for the facts that he is fighting-hard on behalf of undocumented refugees ... and that he is NOT helping the tens of thousands of homeless Veterans who are struggling to survive. To me that is un-American and un-presidential to not take care of your own first. There are woman and children living on the streets in some cities in the great USA.
  Shame on him!
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  YEP!
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  What is your support for the claim that Obama is ignoring veterans' concerns in a way that he is directly responsible?
  
  See how quickly you moved away away from the refugees to the vets when GA caught you with your breeches down? Or is it true that even when Obama literally walks on water you are still going to find fault with him?
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  wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Christians are being murdered (as are Muslims), but they agree with the primary religion in the US and thus should be given priority.
  
  Shameful, disgusting and pitiful. That anyone in this country thinks a persecuted refugee should be vetted by the religion they espouse really is all of that.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Muslims are being murdered because they converted to Christianity.
  That is "Shameful, disgusting and pitiful."
  But, if they aren't vetted an ISIS member could sneak in.
  That could be tragic!
  
  ADDED: right now we do not need to worry because of...
  
  A Vote Obama Cannot veto!
  "The House voted 289-127 in favor of a bill that would require greater scrutiny of Syrians and Iraqis applying to become refugees in the United States. In a stunning rebuke to President Obama, 47 Democrats ignored the president's veto threat and joined 242 Republicans to pass the measure by a veto-proof majority. Reporters at CNN and the New York Times reported that the Obama administration's defense of the the refugee program actually lost Democratic votes:"
  http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/syr … ontent=TWS
  
  (but then we do not have secure borders)
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I wish that conservatives types would spend as much time protecting the 1st amendment as they do the 2nd.
  
  There is no religious litmus test, and people cannot be presumed guilty merely because of their choice of religious faith. They may be properly vetted for terrorist background and criminal record but no more or less than anyone coming here under such circumstances.
  
  I, again, am on a rightwing watch, I don't like profiling or making these sorting decisions regarding the fate of these people based on irrelevant data.
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  GA Andersonposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I am with you on this one bud, but I can't resist a little dig by pointing out that it was your Democrats that made the legislation veto-proof.
  
  Idiocy is a bipartisan condition.
  
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  The very first thing you people need to realize is that the Republicans are a bunch of Nazis and the Democrats are a bunch of commies. They are both reading from the same script for a socialistic New World Order. Soon the UN will nullify our Bill of Rights. After that all residents of earth will be required to worship Big Brother by False Prophet Pope Francis. In the meantime World War Three will commence, the dollar will crash, martial-law will be declared and there will be great tribulation all over the world.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  is there any influencing this to not happen?
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  It is in God's hands so all we can really do is spread the word and pray. Avoid the RFID-chip at all costs! Read your Bible, clean your guns and buy a little ammo just for self-defense! Store water, foodstuffs, candles, matches, etc. A little extra oil for the lamp too.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  With God its kind of like a chess game (not a great example) where we have to make a move, then He will move. But, we do have 2 Chronicles 7:14 (His promise). First, we have to humble ourselves before God and confess our sins and turn from our wicked ways, and He will forgive us of our sins. Then...God....
  
  Christians are waking up all over the world and are humbling themselves.
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  Larry Wallposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Sgt. Pepper
  Your rant is pointless. However, I will point out that the UN has absolutely no legislative or regulatory authority and any motion, resolution or act enacted by that body has no enforcement power behind it. The idea of the U.N was to give the nations of the world a forum to discuss and debate issues. While the idea is good and one, I have supported, the reality is that the UN has not been very effective and has been little if any impact on our future.
  
  You identified Republicans and Democrats. I do not belong to any political party. How do you classify me?
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  EVERY member-nation recently in September signed on to the UN Project-2030 which is "Agenda-21 on steroids". They will use global-warming and Islamic-terrorists to justify world domination. I too became an Independent voter until I realized our votes mean nothing except to keep track of the proletariat.
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  Kathryn L Hillposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.naturalnews.com/051058_2030_ … ement.html
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Great article that sums up the goals of the corrupt corporations and political elites. I have read all of those points several times elsewhere but never put into one condensed summary. Things are happening as they work towards their goal of total control by one government.
  
  Thank you for sharing that, Kathryn.
  And, thank you Sgt.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I hope someday I can be as sanguine about the future as this BBC journalist. But the future he envisions only happens if Europe wakes up and is willing to do whatever it takes to defend Western--and, yes, Christian--values. (which are not the same values in the WH) Isn't it ironic that sometimes the most civilized countries have to put civilized behavior into a sort of "lockbox" for a time in order to defeat those who would destroy it forever? The Allies did it in World War II in order to defeat Nazi Germany and Imperial Communist Japan. Thankfully, the war was won and civilized behavior was instituted again in the territory the U.S. and our Western European allies liberated. How many civil liberties (including even the basic right to go on living) would've survived had the Germans and Japanese won that war?
  
  Presently, civilized countries are facing a similar fanatical expansionist enemy that is hell bent on subjugating the entry world. But they use half-measures and quarter-measures to "contain" the enemy, thinking that to do more would somehow betray their own twisted humanitarian values.
  
  Here's something for oh-so-civilized and self-righteous-compassionate Westerners to consider: If Islamofascists win World War III, the values that the Western nations hold so dear will not be written in the history books...because it will be the totalitarian Islamofascists who will be the the writers.
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIKg3Qe … e=youtu.be
  
  Jesus is compassionate toward refugees...Remember Jesus was a refugee fleeing from Bethlehem because of the evil King Herod. It is His compassion we should desire more then gold. He is our only hope for Salvation!
  
  Added Obama is less animated in denouncing ‪#‎ISIS‬ and terrorism than he is in denouncing Republicans, Conservitives and Christians! (that is so true)
  http://www.dineshdsouza.com/news/audio- … ys-dsouza/
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Then that was a mistake.
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  Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  +1 on that.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  
  None on this terrorist list were Christians.
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  Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Several of my ancestors were refugees. I appreciate the fact that Americans, back then, were more compassionate than some appear to be today.
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  Thadeus Finkleposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Timothy MacVeigh was an American right wing extremist mass murdering Terrorist
  Dylan Roof is a white right wing extremist and racist mass murdering terrorist
  Charles Joseph Whitman was an American white military Catholic mass murderer and terrorist
  Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were white, right-leaning, conservative ascist/Nazi Catholic and Lutheran mass murderers
  Jim David Adkisson was a righ-wing extremist Christian zealot sympathizer murdering terrorist
  Frank Silva Rogue was a white American right wing mass murdering terrorist
  Wade Michael Page was a white American ideolog and mass murderer
  Scott Roeder was a white right wing Christian extremist zealot murdering terrorist
  Reverend Paul Jennings was a Christian zealot multiple murder terrorist
  Eric Rudolph is a Murdering Christian terrorist
  James Charles Koop is a murdering Christian terrorist
  John Salvo is a murdering Christian terrorist
  Joseph Stack was a right wing American extremist suicide bomber terrorist
  None of the terrorists and murdering scum on this list were Muslim.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Very true. Also, there are plenty of "good guys" running around creating mayhem with guns.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Cred, this is the data I found, which overwhelming points to some kind of "religious litmus test"...oh, your a Muslim...you get a pass.
  
  Out of 2,184 refugees, 2098 have been Muslims.
  
  That looks like bias to me. An unfair religious litmus test.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I have no evidence that the Government is deliberately discriminating against professed Christians among this group. If that is true I will be opposed to that for the exact same reasons.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Its the UN that picks the refugees from what I have read. Have they been influenced greatly? I think so, George Soros admitted involvement with the refugee crises in EU. And, who the heck are the UN? The UN isn't even a country.
  
  The leader of the FBI says they do not have any data on these undocumented refugees in Syria so they cannot vet them. They could be anyone they say they are, no one knows. People are trying to come up with an agreeable solution to vet them somehow, someway. I don't think it should be a political issue like its become. Its a humanitarian effort.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  The UN is a global body for which the task of dissiminating refugees around the world would be appropriate. The refugees are dispersed across international lines and the countries that agree to take them on do it voluntarily. International means UN.
  
  What evidence is there that George Soros has a problem with Christians? What evidence is there that the UN influence in this process is deliberately anti-Christian?
  
  I have heard that a large proportion of these people are elderly and women and children. We do the best we can in screening and vetting. It has become a political issue instead of a humanitarian effort because conservatives insist on politicizing it. Here in Florida, there are thousands of Syrian immigrants, who is to say that anyone of them couldn't be part of a terrorist plot. Your next door neighbor could be an eligible recruit if he or she is so inclined, you don't need to be a refugee.
  
  You can find a million excuses not to do something if you don't really want to do it.
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
I knew George Soros admitted to his involvement in the immigrate crisis in Europe. And, I figured he was involved in this agenda to flood the US with Syrian refugees. But, he is not the only very wealthy Democratic supporter pulling the strings of the Obama Administration. The Democrats keep trying to say its the Republicans with the most wealthy supporters, that's a BIG LIE.

I'm beginning to see clearly why Obama is fighting-hard for his Syrian refugee agenda (mostly all Muslim). Money talks.

The Foundation to Promote Open Society" is owned by G. Soros.
"National Immigration Forum - Total Gifts Over Time"
* http://www.milliondollarlist.org/recipi … tion-forum

(there's a whole lot of money pouring into this for Syrian refugees - its an agenda - that will provide them with the best educations in the US and much more....)
So, where does this leave Americans? I'd guess pretty much in the dirt.

George is also funding a fake conservative group ad campaign that defends the bringing of Syrian refugees to the US according to this article.
* http://truthuncensored.net/soros-funds- … ZU3LG.dpbs

Its all a part of the plan for the NWO like Sgt. talks about.

Obama's Muslin Brotherhood will be taking over America if we let it.
It has to be stopped!

I cannot believe anything coming out of the WH anymore. If the Syrian refugees have this much financial backing when they get here, I cannot believe they are that much in need in Syria...or wherever it is they would be brought here from. For all we know they could be in four star hotels.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I hear and understand your opinions, but they are still just that. I have to research the issue of which party has the most 'well heeled' supporters. I just know that the upper 1 percent are not supporting Democrats.
  
  More of this NWO stuff, huh. You are actually giving the Sgt credibility?
  
  This is an humanitarian effort, nothing more, why is the Right making a federal case of it? Bringing in 10,000 people in a population of over 300 million does not seem to be a lot.
  
  Who keeps saying Obama is a Muslim? Is this still being played in rightwing circles?
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Forbes Top 20 Richest 1% Americans: 16 Of The Top 20 Are Sanctimonious Democrats! They ARE AlsoThe Big Liars … Also The Party Of Wall Street … Also The Party Of GE … Also The Party Of Communism, And Also The Party Of The Banking Cabalists!
  
  DEMOCRATS
  D-Bill Gates 56 Billion: Maurice Strong Uses Bill Gates Of Microsoft, Global Warming Scheme, To Funnel Money Out Of America!
  
  D- Warren Buffett $50.0 billion: Remember, California Guts The Middle Class: Not Leading But Following Europe’s Austerity Footsteps Of Subjugation To Globalist Thugs.
  
  D- Lawrence Ellison $39.5 billion
  D- Jim Walton 20.1 billion
  D- Alice Walton 20 billion
  D- S. Robson Walton 20 billion
  D- Michael Bloomberg 18 billion (was a D for 20 yrs then became a RINO and is now an I): Remove Michael Bloomberg Into The Annals Of Judas Iscariot: Laying The Groundwork For Riots While Calling For Carbon Tax!
  D- Larry Page – Google – 15 billion
  D- Sergey Brin – Google – 15 million
  D- George”Spooky Dude” Soros – Crime Inc,.14.2 billion: Another Fraud Charge On Already Convicted Felon George Soros: Flying The Coop On His Fraud Company And A $39.4 Million Judgment Against It!
  D- Mark Zuckerberg $13.5 billion
  D- Dustin Moskovitz $2.7 billion
  D- Sean Parker $1.6 billion
  D- Peter Thiel $1.6 billion
  D- Yuri Milner $1 billion
  D- Eduardo Saverin $1.6 billion
  
  REPUBLICAN
  R- Michael Dell 14 billion
  R- Charles Koch 21.5 billion
  R- David Koch 21.5 billion
  ----------------------------------------
  Hard to imagine having that much money to play around with.
  
  "More of this NWO stuff, huh. You are actually giving the Sgt credibility?"
  What's wrong with that?
  
  What federal case are you talking about? I would be interested in reading up on that.
  
  Last year there 69,987 refugees who entered the US.
  
  For refugees fleeing war or fearing for their lives, the United States can no longer provide anything approaching immediate sanctuary[/b], said Sarah Margon, the Washington director of Human Rights Watch. “The system is just too bogged down in bureaucratic impediments,” she said.[/i]
  http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/11/world … .html?_r=0
  
  Creating safe zone right now for refugee in Syria makes a whole lot of sense to me.
  
  I'm not sure what the federal case is that Obama is trying to make...but, he sure seems to be in a hurry when our hands are tied. He wants to allow 10,000 undocumented Syrian refugees. Really, at a time when we are at war? I cannot not see a "humanitarian effort" to protect everyone who already lives in the US.
  
  "Who keeps saying Obama is a Muslim?"
  Did Obama just say he's a Muslim (again)?
  * http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/did-obama-ju … Iy2BfH2.99
  
  Soros Criminal Conviction Exposes "Human Rights" Scam
  http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2012/ … minal.html
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  How do you create a 'safe zone' in Syria, short of going to war in Syria?
  Ask your buddy, Donald Trump? He certainly isn't going to rise from his gold plated commode to do anything more than talk tough and propose impractical solutions.
  
  You are befuddling the issue, again, I am speaking of the 1 percent as a group, not just a handful of celebrities. How many millions are included in this class, I will have to look up. Putting down a few names does not address my point and in fact is dodging it.
  
  The Canadians are taking 25,000, with much of the nations of Western Europe taking more than 10,000, so why can't we take on 10,000 without the rightwinger experiencing a vapor lock?
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I posted this before. Its not the Right-wing that put a vapor lock on Obama's measure, it was his Left-wing that flew in the face of this madness. They agree with the Right for a change.
  
  "The House voted 289-127 in favor of a bill that would require greater scrutiny of Syrians and Iraqis applying to become refugees in the United States. In a stunning rebuke to President Obama, 47 Democrats ignored the president's veto threat and joined 242 Republicans to pass the measure by a veto-proof majority. Reporters at CNN and the New York Times reported that the Obama administration's defense of the the refugee program actually lost Democratic votes:"
  http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/syr … ontent=TWS
  
  I don't vote Republican or Democrat, but I am very keen on what the hell is going on because I love America. You can get off your Right-wing buddy stuff here as far as Trump goes. He hasn't gotten to where he is at in life without doing things I don't agree with, but that isn't here nor there.
  
  Would you care to discuss Obama or Carson?
  
  Samaritan’s Purse creates safe zones in war torn areas through donations and volunteers.
  It a ministry can do that, why can't the USA?
  http://www.samaritanspurse.org/article/ … hern-iraq/
  
  I support the Syrian refugees in Northern Syria through Samaritan’s Purse. I really do care about them, and I trust Franklin Graham and his Evangelical Ministry.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I am mistaken, Obama should know that we all have to insist that these people be properly vetted.
  
  Even though you say that you are politically unaligned, all the positions you take are right out of the radical GOP playbook.
  
  On the contrary, it is 'here and there'. if you can attack Obama's ethics, can we least do as much evaluation for Thurston Howell III?
  
  We can discuss either one, Obama or Carson as I have opinions on both, why these two? What about Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Trump, etc.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Thurston Howell III, Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, and Trump and anyone else should not derail forum threads. Would you tell them that? Pretty please tell them not to do that.
  
  I watched "gifted Hands" about Ben Carson last night on Netflix. I gave it a 5 Star rating. I just like the man, and appreciate the challenges he over-came in his life to become one of the greatest brain surgeons the world has ever seen. I admire his dedication to God as well. He is a supreme human being. That really has nothing to do with what party he is running for as president of the United States. I have more depth then that.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  True about Carson, but neurosurgery and the Presidency have different skill sets.
  
  There are only two credible parties right now. The one Mr. Carson is running for President under will not take him, so it has everything to do with the party.
  Without the party, he cannot attain to the goal of the Presidency. Being a nice guy is not enough, you have to be politically palatable in the eyes of the party.
  
  Trump is not a nice guy in the same sense, but look how the GOP and its followers embrace him...
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Here is a conservative argument for and against Ben Carson. I had not read this before, but I would say it is accurate. I have a lot of faith in Carson's ability to learn the ins and outs of politics very quickly because of his extremely high IQ. And, he has said that he would have the best advisers as president. I think he would actually listen to sound advice because he is teachable, humble, and very smart.
  
  Arguments for Carson
  
  Carson is obviously brilliant and his life story is compelling. While a lack of political experience could be seen as a drawback, in today's world it could be equally advantageous. Politicians are among the most distrusted and dis-liked people in America.
  
  Since 2010, voters have become more attracted to candidates not of the political world and this could be a benefit.
  
  Obamacare remains unpopular and Carson is especially strong and persuasive on healthcare issues. Who better to effectively tear apart Obamacare than one of the most famous surgeons in the world? In the first presidential debate, Carson gave a very specific and detailed answer about what he would do on healthcare.
  
  Courage. Carson also had enough guts to stand feet away from the President and blast the direction of the country while simultaneously advocating for a flat tax. (He also apparently received his first IRS visit following the speech, but that was probably just a coincidence.) Carson has also been a rationale voice on race relations, perhaps one of the more important aspects of a potential nomination.
  
  After years of racial divisiveness under the Obama administration, could a President Carson help bridge the gap?
  
  Perhaps most importantly, Carson is not afraid of speaking his mind or about his faith, something not seen in a Presidential candidate since George W. Bush in 2000 and 2004. The Christian voter block is key to Republican victory, yet constantly ignored. As a result, they have stayed home in greater numbers each year. This is something that Carson could tap into in both the primary and general election.
  
  Arguments Against Carson:
  
  For conservatives, a lack of political record also means he is a relatively blank slate. Without a long political track record, how can he be legitimately scrutinized? Also, without political campaign and debate experience, the question of how he would handle political situations is also a mystery. On the issues, some conservatives have pointed to his iffy stances on the 2nd Amendment and gun rights. Carson is also not especially strong on foreign policy, but that isn't an especially unique problem. (Only the US Senators seem to have a grasp of international relations, but they frequently deal with the subject.)
  
  ADDED: remember I started a thread on the political you seem to have a giant crush on. (i'm not jealous) It wasn't a very lively discussion because we basically agreed.
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  wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  While using his faith and beliefs to run the country might be a pro towards getting elected (or might not - there ARE Republicans that dislike religious rule), it is most definitely not a pro when it comes to actually fulfilling his duties.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  His faith in God through prayer to heal and save lives through divine wisdom and guidance coupled with his gifted hands, great physical and mental endurance ... could transfer to whatever Ben Carson wants to achieve next in his life. He is a man that has not stopped learning and never will.
  
  Certainly, a person's faith has a lot to do with how they act. But, actions speak louder then words. Its not hard to judge someone's words by their actions or the other way around. I don't trust anything that comes out of Obama's mouth because of his actions and lack of actions.
  
  I'm not disagreeing with you, wilderness, just saying...
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Arguments for
  
  1. Everybody in 2008 wanted to disqualify Obama for having little political experience, this fellow has none. Ronald Reagan put a great deal of onus on his advisers, but when the Iran-Contra scandal broke he was asleep at the switch, claiming his cabinet officers did him inform him of what was going on. You have to manage these people and that takes experience.
  
  If Obamacare is dismantled what is to replace it putting so many back under the clutches of insurance companies will not play well? What is the Carson alternative? I will have to look it up.
  
  Black people generally do not support conservative candidates and ideology regardless of the skin color of the ones advocating it. History has shown that the conservatives have done little to address aspirations of the Black Community. This is a negative for Carson, not a plus.
  
  Nobody has problem with a President with religious faith, as long as he and his party recognises that everybody's right to exercise the religion of their choice of lack thereof may not be subject to interference.
  
  As for arguments against Carson.
  
  Carson is too liberal for the rank and file of the party, when his practices in private do not line up with party dogma i.e. (multiculturalism). What black man can afford to live and not acknowledge the very principle that supports his inclusion in American life?
  
  You will have to refresh my memory in regards to the past thread to which you refer.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Unicef also in involved with helping in the efforts with Syrian refugee camps. 90% of donations are used for the work of its missions. The camps are over-flowing with refugees because of war.
  https://www.unicefusa.org/donate/help-s … tent=syria
  
  Samaritan's Purse continues to provide tents, food, water, blankets, clothing, kerosin heaters, etc. But, it is winter once again and its cold. More is needed just for the basics.
  Video with Franklin Graham: http://video.samaritanspurse.org/frankl … ugee-camp/
  
  My hope for 2016 is that world leaders and our own US gov. will implement a plan that can properly vetted Syrian refugees and stop terrorist jihadist from infiltrating among the refugees. Things are bad in those war torn regions and camps. Much help is needed...
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  i donated to unicef a few days ago. thanks for the reinforcement.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Your are welcome, Cathy. "Its better to given than receive."
  
  Thank you, and stay blessed!
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Alternative Primeposted 8 years ago
Moreover, having "Pathological Disease" & Suffering from Frequent DELUSIONS which Ben Carson Clearly Exhibits are Typically NOT the Best Psychological Attributes Conducive to President of the United States ~

Not to mention his Attempted Murder when a teen & Unconscionable Violent Propensities toward his OWN mother and other Human Beings ~ Dr. Ben is SINKING Fast in the Polls, and that's nothing but a Good Thing for America regardless of affilitation with Progressives, Conservatives, Socialists, Independants, Martians etc ~

Just look at him, he really needs Professional Attention & Help before he Falls Apart Completely ~
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  There's AP Fake News again, welcome. You should watch "Gifted Hands" the movie about Ben Carson's life from childhood and watch those scenes that the fake news media distorted, that you seem to like to swallow by the shovel full. - Thanks for stopping by, I enjoy humor.
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  Alternative Primeposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I Insert FACTS and just the Facts ~ They can be researched and Verified, unlike the "Obama is a Muslim" NONSENSE ~
  
  Moreover, I'm really not interested in watching a film about this guy, I've seen quite enough of him without going BACK in TIME ~
  
  Just a FEW More examples of his Psychological Instability ~ He Claims the Great Pyramids were used for Grain Storage, a ridiculous speculation when every Scientist and or Archeologist have studied the Monoliths and have rendered an EDUCATED Judgement ~ He compared Human Beings to Rabid Dogs ~ etc etc ~
  
  He's Mentally Incompetent it's that simple ~
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Colorfulone: "You should watch "Gifted Hands" the movie about Ben Carson's life from childhood and watch those scenes that the fake news media distorted, that you seem to like to swallow by the shovel full."
  
  Do you bother to read what you write? You're suggesting that somebody should watch a movie about a guy that is scripted to present the subject in the best possible light, and totally avoids anything that might be seen as negative....and then you suggest that the media is fake and distorting Carsons' story...and then on top of that, you suggest that the other person is "swallowing" that rather than swallowing the swill that presents him as St. Ben. Wow. It's always interesting to watch the total ideologue in action. You'll swallow anything as long as it follows the narative that you have bought into. Ever consider the possibility that you could be wrong about this? Do you consider yourself to be a fallible human being? Or not?
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  What kind of person do you consider yourself to be?
  
  I consider myself to be a patriotic citizen of the USA.
  
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Colorfulone: "I consider myself to be a patriotic citizen of the USA."
  
  I'm sure that you do. But I don't see you that way. A patriotic person would uphold the constitution of this country. The very topic of this Hub is "I agree with Ben Carson, no muslims as president."
  That violates the Constitution; Article VI.
  "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States"
  And of course the first Amendment.
  Amendment I
  "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"
  
  So, considering that you are more than willing to violate the constitution in order to fulfill your emotional angst, what exactly are you basing your patriotism on?
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I don't believe it, are you still plugging for this guy?
  
  I thought that I have seen this billboard somewhere before.
  
  Quite frankly, I have seen more profound rhetoric on the back of my box of corn flakes.
  
  Everybody says this, it means nothing from a man who is still anything but middle of the road, but quite reactionary in his principles and policies.
  
  Remember this:
  
  Inscription on a monument dedicated to the founder:
  
  "Knowledge is Good"
  The Founder of Faber College
  (Aminal House)
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Proverbs 2: 1-5 "My son, if you accept my words
  and store up my commands within you,
  2 turning your ear to wisdom
  and applying your heart to understanding—
  3 indeed, if you call out for insight
  and cry aloud for understanding,
  4 and if you look for it as for silver
  and search for it as for hidden treasure,
  5 then you will understand the fear of the Lord
  and find the knowledge of God.
  
  (Animal House, huh?)
  
  1 CORINTHIANS 8:1 "Now concerning things offered unto idols: We know that we all have knowledge. Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth."
  
  Proverbs 16:16 "How much better to get wisdom than gold, to get insight rather than silver!"
  
  Proverbs 4:7 "The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding."
  
  We can not have the "knowledge of God" if we do not understand the fear the Lord. Without wisdom we can not have understand.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Should patriotism blind one to reality? I am Australian but keep my mind open to criticism and try to see my country and "us" as able to improve if the need arises. Whereas make-believe patriotism will make excuses and refuse to admit error.
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Here's another is Obama a Christian test. I won't hold my breath waiting for his outrage, because he stands with Muslims. "Muslim Migrants Throw Christians Overboard To Drown"

http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/m … d-to-drown

"Why NO ONE Should Trust Obama"
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/b … rust-obama
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
As of late, there is a constant drone of political pundits, even from CNN, asking “Why is Obama doing this? Why is he saying that?” Even former President Carter, the weakest president of the twentieth century, has said “Obama is inept.” Does Obama live in his own little world? Is he truly inept or is there much more to this man that our miserable main-stream media didn’t tell us or bothered to find out?

The media seems to be playing the “we’re confused card.” They scratch their collective heads and wonder in amazement about what Obama says and does. They actually look as confused as so many of us. Is he incompetent or does he have a plan he’s not divulging? Or, did Obama plainly announce his plan in 2008 to “fundamentally change America?”

Why has Obama taken a far back seat in the war on terror? Why has Obama seemingly switched sides? Why did Obama eagerly criticize Bush II about the national debt and then go about doubling it? Why does Obama back the Muslim Brotherhood? Why does Obama have such animosity towards Netanyahu and Israel, our greatest ally in the region? Why is Obama insisting on importing Syrian ‘refugees’ contrary to fervent public opinion in spite of the Paris tragedy and then say “Are you telling me that the American people are afraid of widows and orphans?” Does this man think we are stupid? In short, why is Obama doing the opposite of what any amount of common sense would say to do?

Former Defense Secretaries Panetta and Gates have both written books and have had numerous interviews testifying to Obama’s refusal to take advice from professionals in the military and his administration as to how to deal with terrorists and criminal regimes like Iran.

Why did Obama work so hard on an Iran deal that gives that country a nuclear capability? Why is Obama shrinking our military to pre-World War II levels? Why is Obama releasing terrorists from Gitmo contrary to the requirement that Congress be given a 30-day advance notice and in spite of a congressional report that says about 30% of released prisoners have either returned to military activity or suspected of doing so? Why did Obama choose to create Obamacare even without one vote of support from Republican members of Congress? Why did Obama make ‘recess appointments’ when congress was NOT in recess? Why does Obama ignore the plight of Christians and Jews but is constantly pleading for Muslims? Why does Obama insist we have a broken immigration system when it is just a matter of laws not being obeyed? Why does Obama seem to divide the nation by race and class, white against black, rich against poor? Why does Obama routinely trash his own country on foreign soil?

This is all classic Cloward/Piven, Saul Alinsky, Karl Marx, divide and conquer, create dependency and discontent, drown the nation in debt and break the financial back of the country. A collapsed American economy wipes out the middle class, small business and with it the West. Create a problem and then tell the American people you’re the only one who can fix it. Lie and keep lying until everyone believes you.

Spread the gay agenda in the culture and especially in the military; sabotage their morale and morality and you help destroy the most powerful nation in the world. Dismantle the family, the Church, repeal the SECOND AMENDMENT and the mission is complete. Destroy the culture and you destroy the nation.

Anyone with any sense can see the destruction of our nation is increasing in intensity. Unless an accomplice can complete the task, Obama has only a year left to conclude the work. He has much help from the likes of Kerry, Clinton and Valerie Jarrett, Obama’s Iranian-born senior advisor and communist mentor.

This is not mere incompetence, but a carefully planned program of eradication. His father hated the West. Maybe that is why Obama ordered the bust of Churchill removed from the oval office. He has prepared his entire adult life for this end. A plan to crush what he hates, the West, Christianity, Israel and America.

Incompetence or treason? You decide.

(Article shared By Ray DiLorenzo November 19, 2015)
http://canadafreepress.com/article/76900

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  wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I particularly like the center photo - taking Obama to task for not becoming as our enemies are.
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  What an incredibly stupid post. You actually have to post somebody else's article to speak for you? Does that serve as your talking points? No thinking required, just copy and past somebody else's thoughts.
  
  As for the photo's I think Wilderness summed it up pretty well. You seem to want us to become like the very people we call enemy. What you're doing is presenting a logical fallacy as your argument. It's called tu quoque. The tu quoque fallacy is committed when it is assumed that because someone else has done a thing there is nothing wrong with doing it. This fallacy is classically committed by children who, when told off, respond with “So and so did it too”, with the implied conclusion that there is nothing wrong with doing whatever it is that they have done. This is a fallacy because it could be that both children are in the wrong, and because, as we were all taught, two wrongs don’t make a right.
  
  Apparently your parents never taught you that two wrongs don't make a right. In short, you can't justify our treatment of others because of how some of them might treat us. Your classic response of; they do it to Christians, so that means Christians can and should do it to them, has nothing to do with Christianity or the teachings of Jesus and is logically nothing but ignorance on steroids.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I believe that my, Dad was the best Dad that I could have had.
  I believe that my, Mom is the best Mom I can have.
  Thankfully, they gave me a great sense of humor.
  They have been a blessing to me!
  
  But gosh, I'm a Grandmother now and aging gracefully!
  
  Sweet dreams to you! Jesus loves everyone!
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Allow the Muslims and prohibit the Christians?
If you don't get it yet you're part of the problem not the solution!

* https://shariaunveiled.wordpress.com/20 … hristians/
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  There should be no religious 'test' required of the refugees, Christian or Muslim, or none of the above, it makes no difference.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Fortunately that rich Jew Bernie Sanders gave up his dual-citizenship with Israel. Just in time huh? Socialism only knows one god...Satan.
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  jesus was a socialist, as were the early Christians. they shared everything.
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  Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I'd classify him as more of a communist.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Communist: a person who supports or believes in the principles of communism.
  
  You sure about that? I don't believe Jesus is a communist, but it is funny that you might think so. Thanks for the laugh. Silly, unless you are serious, then it would be hilarious.
  
  Granted, communists hate Jesus because he is the "King of Kings" and the "Lord of Lords". Each to his or her own!
  
  But...I love this Scripture you quoted:
  Matthew 5:44 "But I say to you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven" ... Amen!
  
  Mean while: A new CNN poll found that 75 percent of Americans are dissatisfied with the way the U.S. is being governed. --- I am one of that 75%!
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  Live to Learnposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Communism removes the concept of personal property. (Look to the text to see support of this).
  Acts 2:45 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had
  
  Communism stresses that all people are the same. (Look to the text to see support of this).
  Galations 3;28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
  
  From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs. (Look to the text to see support of this).
  See Acts 2:45 above
  
  Communism is a word loaded with negative connotations. And, rightly so. But, communism guided by true love of fellow man would be a utopia and would be in line with how the text shows the early Christians attempted to set up their communities. Driven by their understanding of the words of Jesus.
  
  Just so you know, I am part of the 75% also. But we will never have change for the better as long as everyone is being so selfish in their desires. Positive change has to be inclusive.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Jesus said "The poor will ALWAYS be with you and you can give to them whenever YOU want."
  Jesus also said "Those who refuse to work should not eat."
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  that was not jesus. it was later in the new testament. jesus said sell all you have and give the money to the poor.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Reference the poor always being & giving when you want see Mark 14:7, Matthew 26:11, John 12:8 & 2Thessalonians 3:10
  As for the rich young man Jesus told to sell all he had and "come follow me!" can be found in Matthew 19:21, Luke 18:22 & Mark 10:21
  In Luke 11:21 Jesus said "When a strong man well-armed keeps his palace(or homestead) his goods are in peace."
  In Luke 10:18 Jesus said "I saw Satan fall like lightning from on high."
  BARAK O BAMAH means 'lightning from on high'.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I have just seen a display of anti-semitic bigotry so profound that I would have to pay to see it performed as well anywhere else. Are you sure that you are not part of that Christian Identity outfit?
  
  And you want to talk about Jesus?
  
  It is interesting that all of your right wing accomplices have yet to put a muzzle to ya.
  
  By listening to you, I can see a big part of Trump's support and it reflects again upon the GOP.
  
  Nobody takes you seriously, as you are a running joke. But people like you play into my hands and I point to them as a progressive/liberal type and I say to the general electorate, 'Do you consider yourself to be anything like these guys, they are Trump supporters and GOP regulars'....
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Personal attack: "Nobody takes you seriously, you are a running joke."
  
  See how mere knowledge doesn't get it? Find wisdom and understanding... I would suggest reading Proverbs again and again...
  
  Remember the yin and yang...we must have both to find balance!
  Its a good thing!
  
  * Obama's Iran nuclear-deal is an unforgivable betrayal of Israel. It is anti-semitic bigotry in plan sight. Actions speak much louder than words, always have...
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  luke 12:33
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Did he?!! When, to whom and in what circumstances?
  How would you, personally, react to finding a neighbour down on his or her luck, Sgt? Would you sit in judgement and invoke the fictitious words of a fictitious icon to back you up? Or would you give unconditional love and support? That is what we are led to believe of that Christ-like person. Even if the person he was offering help to was in fact not of his faith or family.....even Muslim, would you believe?
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Mark 14:7
  2 THESSALONIANS 3:10
  God bless!
  -------------------------------
  To Mr. President: You cannot unilaterally change our nation's immigration laws. It's blatantly unconstitutional.
  http://bit.ly/1IKrVxA
  
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Colorfulone, pulling verses from ancient texts, that are relevant to those ancient times and not intended to be relevant in today's circumstances, is just so "head-in-the-clouds," it does not display wisdom in your words either. Apply those ideas to your own life if you wish to; they were admonishments to specific people at a specific time.
  Whatever was said, by any person back 2000 years ago, in the ancient cultures of the Mediterranean region, had no bearing on an utterly foreign culture on the other side of the world, 2000 years later...except that then there were people trying to lord it over other people and invoking a judgmental god in order to impose their points of view and their demands. Today we experience the same attempts at mind control. It sounds to me like you might be trying to do the same.
  Are you a platoon member with the Sgt in charge?
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  Alternative Primeposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  cathylynn99 is ABSOLUTELY Correct ~
  
  The ONLY Possible way to Acurrately Characterize "Jesus" is as a Socialist, which means he believed in sharing Everything with the COMMUNITY, and not Allowing an Inequitable Concentration of the Wealth & Resources to fall into the hands of a Greedy few as is the unfortunate situation we have in America today ~
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "Fortunately that rich Jew Bernie Sanders"
  
  Well I knew you were a racist. I suppose I should have known the anti-semitism would surface soon enough,. Trump should use you as the face of his campaign. You could be the poster child for Donald Trump. BTW...Bernie Sanders isn't rich. But of course in your mind if he's Jewish, he must be rich.
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  sanders isn't rich - one of the few members of congress who isn't. he has a net worth of about $400k - not even enough to retire decently on these days.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Wow! I just watched his YouTube video.....what a man! Get him into Office and watch your Nation recover its sanity.
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  GA Andersonposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Are the Syrian refugees being admitted because they are Muslim or because they are refugees?
  
  Are there no Christians or other religious affiliations in the Syrian refugees?
  
  The answers I have for those questions do not support your accusations. And I believe my answers are correct.
  
  According to the refugee Processing Center, Syrian Christians are also being admitted. Here is an interactive report that shows you the breakdown: RPC refugee report 8/1/2015 - 11/22/2015
  
  The same report answers the second question.
  
  A third question for you is; Do you think there should be a religious test involved in refugee admittance?
  
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "Are the Syrian refugees being admitted because they are Muslim or because they are refugees?"
  
  Obviously it's because they are refugees. It doesn't matter what religion they are.
  
  "Are there no Christians or other religious affiliations in the Syrian refugees?"
  
  Probably. But most of the people in that region are likely to be muslim.
  
  "A third question for you is; Do you think there should be a religious test involved in refugee admittance?"
  
  Jeb Bush thinks so. At least he suggested that very thing.
  "The GOP candidate also tried to shed additional light on his idea of evaluating refugees based on the popularity of their religious beliefs. Bush continues to draw a distinction between Christian refugees (whom he wants to help) and Muslim refugees (whom he prefers to ignore), and as the New York Times reported, his defense for this posture didn’t do him any favors."
  
  " Asked how he would identify Christian Syrian families to ensure that they receive a special focus, Mr. Bush did not offer a clear answer, but said the onus would be on the refuges to demonstrate their religion."
  
  “You’re a Christian – I mean, you can prove you’re a Christian,” he said. “You can’t prove it, then, you know, you err on the side of caution.”
  
  That's stupid Jeb. You're stupid. Benjy Sarlin added that it’s “hard to imagine a better propaganda victory for ISIS” than U.S. “demanding refugees prove their Christian faith.”
  
  Ted Cruz wants a religious test: "Cruz told reporters that we should accept Christians from Syria, and only Christians, because “there is no meaningful risk of Christians committing acts of terror.”
  
  "If there are Syrian Muslims who are really being persecuted, he said, they should be sent to “majority-Muslim countries.” Then he reset his eyebrows, which had been angled in a peak of concern, as if he had something pious to say. And he did: “On the other hand,” he added, “Christians who are being targeted for genocide, for persecution, Christians who are being beheaded or crucified, we should be providing safe haven to them. But President Obama refuses to do that.”
  
  That of course is a lie. President Obama is NOT excluding Christian refugees from asylum in the US. But, right wingers aren't interested in the Truth. If Cruz says it, then it must be true. If Trump says that thousands upon thousands of Muslims were cheering and dancing in the streets of Jersey City on 9/11 despite absolutely no evidence to support that lie...they believe it. Which of course brings up Trump and we know about what he said about banning muslims from entering the country and about registering them with some kind of ID that identifies them as Muslims. Possibly set up internment ( concentration ) camps.
  
  This is exactly what was done in the Third Reich in the 1930's except the target was Jews. Make them wear ID. Send them to concentration camps.
  
  Apparently that's where the right wing wants to take this country.
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
The best thing anyone can do is sign the petition to "Protect America from ISIS Terror".

The House passed the SAFE Act, H.R. 4038, the American Security Against Foreign Enemies Act of 2015, by an overwhelming vote of 289 to 137. Which Obama threatened a veto. But, Because of the strong House vote they veto-proofed the bill and stopped Obama because of his "failed foreign policy" in the Middle East. ~ Yeah, Obama is pissed-off and bad-mouthing America and Americans. Shame on him for being un-presidential and un-American.

Specifically, the bill recognizes the foremost responsibility of our government to protect the nation, while also leaving open a channel for legitimate refugees fleeing persecution and terror to come to the United States. The bill addresses the need created by current leadership failures, which have led to the lack of stability in Syria and Iraq—and the resulting flow of people fleeing terror. In order to do that, President Obama must shift strategies from a failed foreign policy to American leadership, which will bring a lasting solution to the Syrian crisis and exterminate ISIS – the Islamic State – once and for all.

You can read how the SAFE Act will work: http://aclj.org/national-security/imple … ct-of-2015

This is a compassionate bill for true Syria refugee to create "safe zones", while protecting them and America from Islamic State terrorists.

The bill will advance to the Senate which already has a "bipartisan support for halting the flow of refugees from Syria and Iraq into the United States until proper vetting can be established."

Pretty crazy! For now, the Syrian refugees will need to be kept safe and have extensive background checks before they will be allowed into the US as Obama over-reach has been halted. Well, he can have his little temper-tantrums and foolishly run his big mouth as much as he wants.

* Five Key Policies on ISIS, Syrian Refugees, and U.S. National Security
http://aclj.org/national-security/five- … l-security

* Five Reasons Benghazi Still Matters
http://aclj.org/national-security/five- … ll-matters

ADDED

Out of 2,184 Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war erupted in 2011, only 53 (2.4 percent) have been Christians while 2098 (or 96 percent) have been Muslims, according to State Department statistics updated on Monday.

The remaining 33 include 1 Yazidi, 8 Jehovah Witnesses, 2 Baha’i, 6 Zoroastrians, 6 of "other religion," 7 of "no religion," and 3 atheists.

Updated figures of Syrian refugees admitted into the U.S. since the Syrian civil war began. Only 53, or 2.4 percent, of the 2,194 total are Christians. (Data: State Department Refugee Processing Center)
By comparison, Syria’s population breakdown in early 2011, before the civil war’s death toll and refugee exodus roiled the demographics, was 90 percent Muslim (including Sunnis, Shia, Alawites and Druze) and 10 percent Christian, according to the CIA World Factbook.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/pat … e-admitted

According the the head of the FBI and Homeland Security, there has been no way to vet these un-documented refugees. Islamic terrorists could have infiltrated with the refugees. Remember we are at war, 9/11.

American Lives Matter, Too!
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know, you said that you wanted to discuss these matters. Both I and GA asked you specific pointed questions, how do you answer?
  
  Putting up billboards and plastering the place will wall paper is not a substitute for an answer. If you can spook this easy, I don't know if your are ready for any real intensity or controversial exhange.
  
  BTW Happy Turkey Day...
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Although Democrats like to talk about unfair wealth inequality in America, six of the ten richest members of Congress are Democrats and the poorest member is a Republican.
http://libertyfirstnews.com/majority-of … democrats/

ADDED Interesting article by Bill Bennett
"They will kill Trump before they let him be a president." referring the the corrupt Republicans and Democrats alike. Because they are earning billions and its one for all in that greedy club.

"George Soros owns Obama" he says...and "foreign governments own Hillary with their Clinton Foundation donations."
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/b … nt.457721/
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
A list of 12 vetted refugees who quickly joined jihad plots to attack the United States.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government … ee-budget/

Our government is not capable of vetting refuges and immigrants from any country or their radicalization?

Added

President Obama's dismissal of the potential threat from terrorists posing as ‪#Syrian‬ refugees is alarming. But that he's managed to do so in a way that betrayed a fundamental misunderstanding of the Islamist threat is almost disqualifying. Clearly he's learned nothing from recent attacks and instead prefers to continue living in an alternative version of reality.
* http://bit.ly/1XqYYYF

FBI, Homeland Security New Warning of 'Copycat' Terror Attacks
Breaking News http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/FBI-ho … z3sWsMArFO

Muslims have driven Christians out of their lands. Enslaved them. Forcibly converted them to Islam. Murdered them. But the Obama administration's anti-Christian animus is so deep and thoroughgoing that Obama has refused to meet with victims of the Muslim persecution of Christians, and now the administration refuses to designate this persecution of Christians a genocide.
* http://pamelageller.com/?p=73426

This isn't called evolving. It's called being a step behind. ...Either on purpose or due to an extreme lack of vision. http://www.caintv.com/10-days-ago-isis-was-contained
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Happy Thanksgiving to you too,

Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton once said that she wants to “keep track” of all the illegal immigrants in the United States, to prevent terrorist attacks.

I have to admit I agree with the plan Hillary had, and maybe this is what she will do if elected. Who the heck knows!

(watch at the 5:40 MARK) Sounds a lot like Trump.
http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politic … video-area

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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
"The Muslim Brotherhood's Strategic Plan For America - Court Document"

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“Enablement of Islam in North America, meaning: establishing an effective and a stable Islamic Movement led by the Muslim Brotherhood which adopts Muslims’ causes domestically and globally, and which works to expand the observant Muslim base, aims at unifying and directing Muslims’ efforts, presents Islam as a civilization alternative, and supports the global Islamic State wherever it is.”

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"...the Movement must plan and struggle to obtain "the keys" and the tools of this process in carry out [sic] this grand mission as a 'Civilization Jihadist' responsibility."

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“The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers…”

“[W]e must possess a mastery of the art of ‘coalitions’, the art of ‘absorption’ and the principles of ‘cooperation.’”

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“A list of our organizations and the organizations of our friends” - This is where the Muslim Brotherhood listed its front groups in the U.S.. Note that prominent organizations like CAIR, ISNA, ICNA and others are named here.

http://www.clarionproject.org/Muslim_Br … Memorandum

Document said to prove Obama-Muslim Brotherhood ties
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/06/smoking-gun- … XaMOF6l.99

"President Obama meets with Muslim Brotherhood lobbysit Anas Altikriti in the White House in Feb. 2014"

Updated my Wall Status!

(Happy Thanksgiving, Sgt.)

ADDED: A must listen to video: Brigitte Gabriel Reads the Muslim Brotherhood Plan for America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxNPvns7nU
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Sgt Prepperposted 8 years ago
Thank you and I hope you have a pleasant Thanksgiving Day as well and eat plenty of good food. I wonder if Russia is celebrating their own version of Turkey day?
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Putin and Hollande have other things in mind. France is supporting Russia and not the US in the fight against terrorism in Syria. People around the world are waking up to the US government lies.. This may start a domino effect as more will turn their backs on the US.
  
  https://www.rt.com/news/323599-putin-ho … elligence/
  
  Added:
  
  Russia blowing the lid on the illegal oil smuggling operation out of Turkey. Turkey caught with their pants down and O-BOMB-A looks like a fool.
  
  https://www.rt.com/news/323603-isis-oil … ng-turkey/
  
  Added:
  
  An outright admission of the lack desire to fight...
  OBAMA FLATLY REFUSES FRENCH PRESIDENT’S INVITATION TO JOIN FORCES AGAINST ISIS
  
  That is ludicrous!
  
  http://www.truthandaction.org/obama-fla … rces-isis/
  
  Added: Turkey's Erdoğan says arrested editor "will pay a heavy price" for revealing arms shipments to Syrian insurgents. Has Turkey's mask has fallen off? Now we are seeing who their leader really is?
  
  http://www.todayszaman.com/national_cum … 05352.html
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
The US government and the mainstream media can legally use propaganda on US citizens. Back in 2012 Obama made this stuff legal to do, so we can't even impeach him for distorting the truth and outright lying to the American people and to the world.

Its not going to get any better, its only going to get worse. Very sad!

http://www.businessinsider.com/ndaa-leg … nda-2012-5

Guess What!

San Bernardino Shooting - The police were running drills at the time and were on the scene on minutes ready to rock and roll.

"Active Shooter Drills Took Place "Every Month Or So" At Same Building As San Bernardino Shooting"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUDXjKuawBE
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Sgt Prepperposted 8 years ago
Soon EVERYBODY will know what I already know:
1 - Jesus is coming soon.
2 - Allah is just another name for Satan.
3 - Jesuit Pope Francis is the False Prophet.
4 - Kenyan-born, gay, commie, Moslem Obama IS The Antichrist.
So get ready for the Rapture!
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  33rd Degree no doubt.
  
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  Nick Bishopposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Allah is not another name for Satan, Arabic - meaning: God ! Christian Arabs refer to Allah as God so get your facts right ! We need to be helping our Christian brothers and sisters in the Middle East against IS and other Muslim extremists !
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Assad & Putin appear to be protecting non-Moslems in Syria. When Assad is gone Christians will be slaughtered and THAT is why Kenyan-born Obama wants right-handed Assad gone. Kerry & BHO are making World War Three happen per the plan of General Albert Pike.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Franklin Graham posted this of Facebook about an hour ago. It’s confirmed—San Bernardino shooter Syed Rizwan Farook was a devout Muslim. Friends say he had memorized the Koran. The headlines say Farook and his wife were a couple “bent on jihad.” President Obama and his administration are trying to blame this incident on gun control when it was caused by a hate-filled heart intent on killing infidels in the name of Islam. Take away the guns and this couple would’ve still slaughtered innocent civilians. Their apartment was a bomb-making factory! It’s happened in France and it’s happening here. ISIS has warned us that more attacks like this are going to follow. Next time it could be a mall or a school, but until our politicians understand and admit the threat of radical Islam we’re going to have more of these horrible acts of violence. Farook’s wife, Tafsheen Malik, was allowed into America on a "K-1” Fiance visa and reports now confirm she had pledged allegiance to ISIS before the massacre. Mr. President, we don’t need more gun control—we need border patrol. No Muslims should be allowed into this country until there’s a process in place to fully vet them. We’ve got to turn away those who could potentially pose a threat until this war with radical Islam is over.
  
  Please join me in continuing to pray for the family members of the victims in this tragic shooting as the funerals and memorials services will begin to take place.
  
  "SoCal jihadist wife pledged allegiance to ISIS before massacre"
  http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/04/so … tcmp=hpbt1
  
  Obama will not say "ISIS" ... he says "ISIL".
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Sgt Prepperposted 8 years ago
Moslems worship death. If they can't kll an infidel they will kill another Moslem even a famly member. Like I keep saying Allah is Satan, Kenyan-born Obama is the Antichrist & Pope Francis is the False Prophet. They form the unholy trinity for these perilous times.
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  wildernessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, you keep saying it. But as there isn't a shred of truth in any of it, there doesn't appear to be any reason to believe any of it.
  
  Perhaps you should limit yourself to statements that you can show to be true?
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Looks like the Obama administration's DOJ (Jihad of Justice) is going after our 1st Amendment rights because of the last Islamic terrorist attack in CA. Loretta Lynch is promising to take action against anti-Muslim rhetoric. What! That's insane.

It doesn't seem like the WH remembers 9/11 (or doesn't care), or about all of the mass shootings by Muslims in the US. Nope, it looks like Obama is standing by his own words when he said he would stand with Islam.

Muslims attack and kill and wound innocent people on American soil...and the DOJ threatens American citizens with protecting jihadists. While such speech may not always be nice or productive, it doesn't matter. That's the very essence of the First Amendment.

Funny, I don't hear anyone talking in defense of Christians this way from the Obama WH. Not that I would want anyone to, the 1st amendment stands... like it or not!

Hillary Clinton said - We created ISIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5ff0EOj2WU

If the US created ISIS, then the US should be able to protect America from ISIS. Please sign the petition... http://aclj.org/national-security/san-b … 43017740=1

Don't trust Hillary after Benghazi!
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Note to self: Hillary was only 1 of 60 people who have been interviewed by the Select Committee on Benghazi. This is the newest report that came out yesterday. Witnesses never before interviewed by a congressional committee: 51
  
  https://benghazi.house.gov/news/press-r … th-witness
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Sgt Prepperposted 8 years ago
The Second thru Tenth Amendments still stand too supposedly. Those are the only Amendments we really need.
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness." Isaiah 5:20
"Woe to those who enact evil statutes and to those who constantly record unjust decisions." Isaiah 10:1
On Christ the solid rock I stand.
All other ground is sinking sand.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  No One On EARTH More Responsible For Rise In Islamic Terrorism Than Our Own Terrorist-in-Chief, Barack Hussein Obama
  
  It is a fascinating thing to watch the left as America and the world are viciously attacked by Islamic terrorism and in their war against the West, against Christendom, against Judeo-Christian Western Civilization, against freedom, against democracy and against our entire way of life. Barack Obama, the Democrat Party, the leftist pseudo-intellectuals and the mainstream media have fabricated this narrative of “us against them,” whereby Christians and conservatives are illegitimately attacking this peaceful religion called Islam. The reality is so different it is beyond belief; it is NOT “us against them” but rather it is “THEM against us” while we stand by and get slaughtered because it is politically incorrect for us to stand up for our values or fight for our own lives and the lives of our children.
  
  At least – because I have no doubt this percentage has GROWN given the recent attacks we’re seeing – 27% of young French Muslims support the vicious terrorist army called the Islamic State. And TWICE as many British Muslims are fighting for Islamic State as are fighting for the UK armed forces. Don’t you DARE try to argue with me that “Islam” and “terrorism” aren’t mutually interwoven and linked.
  
  Obama campaigned for president in 2007 and 2008 demonizing George Bush, conservatives and Republicans for their war on terror and over and over again blamed them – and yes, blamed America – for the entire problem of terrorism. It wasn’t that these vicious Muslims hate us and want to kill us and destroy everything we stand for and force us to do what “Islam” really means and SUBMIT to Allah and to sharia law; it was that we built a prison facility at Guantanamo Bay that was inciting otherwise peaceful, happy wonderful people to saw off the heads of people who never hurt anyone.
  
  Obama promised us that when he was president, he would “fundamentally transform” the world and solve all of our problems and end the war on Islamic terror by first of all denying it was either Islamic or terror and secondly denying there was a war.
  
  Start Thinking Right has some great articles, Sgt.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Great indeed, thank you. White, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, capitalists built this great nation. Socialists, homosexuals, Moslems & illegal-aliens are destroying it. Kenyan-born Antichrist Obama is a member of all four of those nasty groups.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I see I forgot to include the link to that article, Sgt. Sorry about that. Must give better credit to an article site like that.
  
  "No One On EARTH More Responsible For Rise In Islamic Terrorism Than Our Own Terrorist-in-Chief, Barack Hussein Obama"
  https://startthinkingright.wordpress.co … ein-obama/
  
  It will be interesting to hear the rhetoric in the speech Obama is preparing to give from the Oval Office this evening. Surely he will apologize to the American people for not countering jihad in the US and in the the world...wink, wink.
  
  "This Sums Up The Demonic Hypocrisy Of The Democrat Party And Liberal Progressivism"
  https://startthinkingright.wordpress.co … ressivism/
  
  The beauty of progressive liberalism, secular humanism and the Democrat Party which defends these engines of destruction in America, is it’s monolithic hypocrisy. Liberals are pathologically dishonest hypocrites whose cry is invariably “It’s NEVER fascist when we do it” because they have conveniently pre-defined themselves as virtuous and their opponents as guilty.
  
  * ISIS keeps advancing – killing Christians in Iraq, Syria, and beyond. And President Obama wants his failed foreign policy written into law for a third term?
  Say no! Sign this petition: http://bit.ly/1N54jSR
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Sgt Prepperposted 8 years ago
There is some likelihood BHO will unviel his gun-confiscation program tonight. I just hope and pray somebody uses a wooden sword or similar weapon on The Antichrist.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I might agree with the no-fly-list because I also wondering why those on it are able to legally buy guns. Obama talks small insignificant points when the Islamic jihadist attacks are a much greater problem. (I would like to know who is on that no-fly list.) All of the attacks on American soil are not being reported by MSM.
  
  The 1st and 2nd Amendments are in trouble because we continue to IMPORT these radical Islamic people who do not share the American values of freedom and liberty. Instead the O'administration wants to create speech codes and more gun control. That's sounding like Shariah law to me.
  
  We need "Islamic terrorist control." starting in the White House.
  This is One Nation Under God, (not allah).
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Updating with some facts about our Muslim government.

In case you have any doubt........
When you read this you will understand why Obama refuses to say the words "radical Islam." Did you know that We Now Have a Muslim Government? ... John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia. Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett,~~is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live. Hillary Clinton's top advisor, Huma Abedin,~~is a Muslim, whose mother and brother are involved in the now outlawed Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Assistant Secretary for Policy Development for Homeland Security, Arif Aikhan,~~is a Muslim. Homeland Security Advisor, Mohammed Elibiary,~~ is a Muslim. Obama advisor and founder of the Muslim Public Affairs Council, Salam al-Marayati,~~ is a Muslim. Obama's Sharia Czar, Imam Mohamed Magid, of the Islamic Society of North America~~ is a Muslim. Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighbor-hood Partnerships, Eboo Patel,~~is a Muslim. And last but not least, our closet Muslim himself,~~ Barack Hussein Obama. It's questionable if Obama ever officially took the oath of office when he was sworn in. He didn't repeat the oath properly to defend our nation and our Constitution. Later the Democrats claimed he was given the oath again….in private? CIA director John Brennan took his oath on a copy of the Constitution,~~not a Bible. Congressman, Keith Ellison took his oath on a copy ~~of the Qur'an. Congresswoman Michele Bachman was vilified and almost tarred and feathered by Democrats when she voiced her concern about Muslims taking over our government. Considering all these appointments, it would explain why Obama and his minions are systematically destroying our nation, supporting radical Muslim groups worldwide, opening our southern border, and turning a blind eye to the genocide being perpetrated on Christians all over Africa and the Middle East. The more damage Obama does, the more arrogant he's become! Our nation and our government has been infiltrated by people who want to destroy us. It WILL only get worse. Plus John Kerry's son in law is an Iranian muslim. Had enough?

Sorry if this offends anyone. The truth is stranger then fiction.

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  Dear Ms. Colorfulone,
  
  Yes, I have had enough hate speech! I read a lot of posts containing outright lies and I considered the poster to be naive or gullible or both. That is until the poster claimed to be a critical thinker and a discerning observer of current events. It was at that point that it became obvious that the poster is neither naive nor gullible but consciously spreading false information knowing that the claims are untrue. How sad it is that some Americans think spreading falsehoods against political foes is justifiable.
  
  "... John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia."
  
  There is nothing in John Brennan’s background to support this claim. If you were really a critical thinker, you would have discovered this by yourself. As a child, he attended the Immaculate Heart of Mary Elementary School and graduated from Saint Joseph of the Palisades High School in West New York, New Jersey before enrolling at Fordham University in New York City. All are distinctly Roman Catholic institutions.
  
  "Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett,~~is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live."
  
  Ms. Jarrett’s is not Iranian and there is nothing in her background to support the claim that she is a Muslim. She was born in Iran more than two decades before the Iranian Revolution, moved to London with her parents at the age of five, and has lived in the U.S. since the age of seven. Her family tree is a distinguished roster of prominent African-Americans. Nor is there any evidence that she ever made the grammatically awkward comment about wanting to change America. As for her parents still living in Iran, well, her father died in 2011. {1}
  
  "Plus John Kerry's son in law is an Iranian muslim. Had enough?"
  
  "Sorry if this offends anyone. The truth is stranger then fiction."
  
  <retch> But you do not tell the truth! This post is a vicious example of hate speech and it is not protected by the first amendment. Those who originate and spread this bile are contemptible.
  
  {1} https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_E._Bowman
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Christmas is in the hearts and on the minds of Americans this month. We are a people of good will toward immigrants and refugees, and especially to those who helplessly face massacre. But, the Obama Administration refugees to allow Christian refugees fleeing death at the hands of ISIS in Syria into the United States. To use his own words against him, "that's not who we are".

The Obama administration is telling Christians who are awaiting death that there is no room for them in the inn and that is unacceptable. This Christmas season, please make their voice heard, because the president does not plan on doing anything to rescue them ... or destroy ISIS.
http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/ … n-refugees

Merry Christmas!

ADDED:

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott accused the Obama administration of granting waivers to refugees who provided material support to terrorists, amid fears the federal government cannot ensure that ISIS is exploiting a vulnerable screening process.
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Sgt Prepperposted 8 years ago
Found on Perry Stone Ministries Facebook Page left December 4th:
“TERROR ALERT: Since the 1980′s groups of Muslims have been provided finances from their governments (including Morocco) to come to America, getting visas and finding jobs, to eventually participate in an American “Jihad.” They are given a phone number to call.
There are warehouses in all 50 states with weapons, and when “the word” is given, they will be given an address to go to pick up their weaponry, and as one Muslim said, “America will burn.”
When Obama opened the Mexican border numerous Muslims, some speaking Spanish, posing as Mexican immigrants came into America. Obama is demanding to allow Syrians, (98% Muslims) to enter America – with untold numbers who could be possible terror agents.
There are hundreds of sleeper cells, including cells in Knoxville, Tennessee, Lexington, Kentucky and throughout the Southeast, including in the mountains of West Virginia. Recently, two Muslims with Kentucky tags was spotted locally video taping numerous buildings, including churches.
I received a message -connected with the U.S. military, that when a radical leaders says publically, “Last days brothers-last days,” the United States won’t know what hit them! They are targeting places around the holidays.
“It is time to get security in all malls, schools and churches, and visit “Smith and Wesson” and get your conceal and carry permit.
Report suspicious activity, and yes, get a security team that WILL PROFILE individuals when needed. Israel is not afraid to profile anyone at anytime, and this is why they have stopped numerous attacks.
When a knife wielding radical comes toward anyone in Israel, to stab them, they will be shot dead by police or a “packing” Israeli. Christians, get your head out of the sand and realize terror has come to America and it is only beginning.
Benjamin Netanyahu told me, “They will use your laws to get inside the country then use your freedoms against you!”
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
John Brennan, current head of the CIA converted to Islam while stationed in Saudi Arabia."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VQbAhqHoAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stakFxEoyWw
"Former FBI Agent: CIA Director John Brennan Is a Muslim"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ll75RnPjJI

"Obama's top advisor, Valerie Jarrett,~~is a Muslim who was born in Iran where her parents still live."
"Valerie Jarrett Behind the Botched Plan to Kidnap Chris Stevens!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs6sV3iwYVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-HBwiolmcY
"BOMBSHELL OBAMA VETTING: 1979 NEWSPAPER ARTICLE BY VALERIE JARRETT FATHER-IN-LAW REVEALS START OF MUSLIM PURCHASE OF U.S. PRESIDENCY"
http://investmentwatchblog.com/bombshel … residency/

Any wonder why the US presidency has such passion to allow Iran to have nuclear weapons?

http://investmentwatchblog.com/bombshel … residency/
John Kerry's son-in-law is an Iranian, with family in Teheran.

Secretary Kerry and Zarif first met over a decade ago at a dinner party hosted by George Soros at his Manhattan penthouse. What a surprise.

But it gets even worse. Guess who was the best man at the 2009 wedding between Kerry’s daughter Vanessa and Behrouz Vala Nahed? Javad Zarif’s son.
http://popularliberty.com/5916/john-ker … negotiator

Dear Mr. Quill, ... hate speech! Really?

Its hard to report facts when they keep on disappearing from the internet.
Example: http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/07/you-w … s-wedding/
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, sounds alot like National Enquirer or Celebrity Tattler to me, credibility wise, you know...
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FatFreddysCatposted 8 years ago
Hey, I saw that movie! Except the deep cover agents were Russians, not Muslims. It starred Charles Bronson and was called "Telefon."
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Ever since the 9/11 terrorist attacks on America, we have heard from scores of political leaders and world experts that "the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful people." Some have suggested that as many as 99% fall into this category. Well, we don't have to guess or estimate; the Pew Research Center has released extensive research on how Muslims in the U.S. self-identify on questions of violence—and the conclusions are frightening.
There are 1.8 million Muslim adults in the United States. Pew research released that 8% of adult Muslims in the U.S. said that suicide bombings and other forms of violence in the name of Islam are “sometimes” or “often” justified. Think about it—that’s 144,000 Muslims who openly say without hesitation that violence in the name of Islam is justified! That’s not “peaceful” and that’s not a small number—it’s about the size of the entire population of Syracuse, New York!
I’m not 99%—but I’m 100% sure of this—our nation and our politicians need to realize the dangers of allowing people into this country that are not properly vetted. -- Rev. Franklin Grahm

* http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/20 … the-world/
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Gosh, Colorfulone with so many Muslims advocating open Jihad living here, you would think that the whole country would have to be on fire if these people carried out terrorism relative to the statistics that you provide.
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
This Muslim leader just made a move that I don't even think Donald Trump saw coming, and then he took it a step further by calling on Obama to do THIS...
http://www.westernjournalism.com/this-m … manualpost

Have patience, Cred. We will see more jihad attacks. What is it, like 18 jihad terrorist attacks since 9/11 so far? Maybe that's not enough for you? Its too many to me. We have to counter jihad. I don't care if you do not agree.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I will wait to see if your words actually pan out,
  
  In the meantime I got more problems with racists, anti-choice, anti-government domestic terrorists who have been responsible for a larger body count with their violence since 2001.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "In the meantime I got more problems with racists, anti-choice, anti-government domestic terrorists who have been responsible for a larger body count with their violence since 2001."
  
  Those are some of the big problems we are facing today. It is a "meantime"! I agree. But, I have a bigger enemy ... and one that I can say that I truly do hate. Satan, the god of this world. See, I do not war against flesh and blood but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. - Ephesians 6:12
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  To be honest to your faith you must hate Satan and his agents regardless of the source. That means attacking the enemies of peace and those that promote lawlessness anywhere and everywhere.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "To be honest to your faith you must hate Satan and his agents regardless of the source. That means attacking the enemies of peace and those that promote lawlessness anywhere and everywhere."
  
  #1 Obama's legacy of lawlessness. The divider-in-chief!
  Jesus loves the Muslims, but He hates sin...me too.
  I am commanded to love my neighbors 'as I love myself'...maybe I need to love myself more, so that I can love my neighbors more.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  If that is true than he is no more so than GW Bush, and Obama is considerably less so. GW Bush, the #1 purveyor and sustainer of war, Obama has yet to live up to that standard.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Take the blinders off, Cred...do some research. Bush was a puppet just like Obama is a puppet. G.W. was warned about the attack on the Twin Towers and did nothing. He received a death threat the morning of 9/11 and was sent to a school to sit with children during the attack. While Dick C. was hauled into a bunker, George B. was a sitting duck. He was told to say "it was Al Qaeda" so that's what he put out on the air`waves. -- Read the Bush timeline on 9/11.
  
  You won't find me defending a gutless wonder like Bush, or Obama. Presidents who do not do what the worlds wealthiest elites demand get assassinated (or it is attempted).
  
  Timeline of United States war
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_ … tes_at_war
  
  We are at war right here in the USA with radical Islamic terrorists.
  
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  That is fine as long as your picking on Obama is not ideological or political bias in failing to recognize how all leaders are culpable in their own way depending upon your point of view.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Cred, last night I watched the movie "The Skulls" with Paul Walker and Craig T. Nelson. That 2000 movie was a warning about the Bush-family and of coming war. The 2008 movie "Pearl Harbor" was a recruiting tool used to get every young person primed for a "surprise" attack. Pearl Harbor, the Lusitania-sinking, the OKC bombing of the Federal Murrah bldg. by McVeigh & John Doe #2, and of course 9/11 were ALL inside-jobs set up to control Americans for the New World Order.
  EVERYTHING is a rich-man's trick including Kenyan-born Obama the Antichrist.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  1993 World Trade Center bombing while Bill Clinton was president needs to be included also. Former FBI Chief blows the whistle on that inside job. According to him the terrorists were given visas to come into the US. The whole terrorist movement is designed to set up homeland security to pass the patriot act and take away our constitutional rights. HE said that the car bombing in 1993 was the first step. (I'll have to research that). Then, Oklahoma City bombing so that there were enough people killed by design to further the agenda for government control. --- This guy knows his stuff! I think I am in love.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_H_niMrjAI
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Well, Bush sure did follow through with your theory, didn't he? The Patriot Act and the Department of Homeland Security was created on his watch. I doubt that the impetus, to dare to impose on the rights of the people and to create a new federal bureaucracy during an austere period, was there to justify the implementation of these drastic measures prior to Sept. 11, 2001.
  
  We had attack on the Marine encampment in the Middle East during Reagan's term in the early eighties. And of course we cannot forget the about Lockerbie air crash in late 88. None of these assaults are new, although they has been increasing in frequency, magnitude and intensity across the globe. I have always said that ISIS must be destroyed, but I won't have my civil liberties and those of my fellow citizens compromised unnecessarily in the process, by engaging in witchunts here.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  There weren't enough people killed in the car bombing, the World Trade Center bombing, or the Oklahoma City bombing to pass The Patriot Act but it was passed by congress after 9/11. According to former FBI Chief Ted Gunderson.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_H_niMrjAI
  
  The witches have been identified by honest top officials who are not afraid to speech out about what they know whether we like it or not, this is nothing new... There is a lot of history I don't know about but I do like putting pieces of the puzzle together one by one as I learn more. If anyone wants to join in the discussion on this threat and add some interesting facts on terrorism at this point, I would like to read about it, if the information hasn't disappeared from the internet. If you think its a witch hunter, you are excused. No hard feelings here, because I am not emotionally involved. I am learning and sharing information on the internet...that's what its about for me.
  
  So! Here we are, it is Gun Free Zones hit by terrorist attacks. The Obama Administration wants to create more Gun Free Zones in the name of gun control because of terrorist attacks. None of the top government officials would ever agree to being in a Gun Free Zone without guns locked and loaded for their protection.
  
  ADDED:
  
  This is insane and terrifying. Your government is failing you beyond your wildest imagination. Please share this post if you agree.
  Here is the insanity in a nutshell: the testimony yesterday before 3 Senate Panels from 3 very high ranking US officials about the K1 visa:
  1/ FBI Director James Comey said the K1 visa (fiance visa program that opened the door for killer Tashfeen Malik to enter USA) REQUIRES AN INTERVIEW BUT HE DOES NOT KNOW IF SHE GOT ONE.
  
  2/ But then Leon Rodriguez, Director of US Citizenship and Immigration Services testified before a Senate panel and said "NO INTERVIEW IS REQUIRED...unless there is some issue that needs to be explained."
  And Rodriguez doesn't think her application with a phony address is "some issue that needed to be explained?" And don't tell me they could not have known...at the Consulate in Pakistan they have computers and can google addresses!) But that is not all, how about the fact that she attended a radical Islamic school that forges an anti western view - anti Americans - in students? Does he not think THAT is an issue that needs to be explained before giving her a visa to come here?
  
  3/ And then there is the testimony of Edward Ramotowski before another Senate panel. He is the State Department Deputy Assistant for Visa Services. He testified that ALL APPLICABLE SECURITY CHECKS WERE DONE FOR TASHFEEN MALIK.
  Really? "all applicable security checks were done?"
  ah...this is so insane...and so dangerous.. - Greta Van Susteren posted this on her Facebook wall.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  No, you are cherry picking sources to provide information that fits with your preconceived point of view, which from your other posting lean toward the radical right. When I speak of witchhunts, I am talking about criminalizing people for who they are instead of for what they do. Conservatives like you need a refresher in history, check out Joseph McCarthy.
  
  But, like I said before, we are on different planets the orbital paths of which are highly unlikely to cross.
  
  HOw did you respond when Quill challenged your statements about Benzghazi?
  
  Sorry, I want to explore these issues further, but I need fair and balanced and I don't see that right now.
  
  As for the events prior to 9/11 they all pale in comparison to 9/11. The body count would may well have justified the post 9/11 response earlier. But, it took something like 9/11 to remove all doubt of the necessity for the creation of the anti-terrorism stand.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Cred, why do you seem to like coming at me with judge-mental statements towards me? I don't do that to you. I am a Christian...not a Republican or a Democrat...I haven't voted for many years. I guess some people just need to have labels to use to categorize others.
  
  Political figures are open game ... I am not open for 'personal attacks' in the HubPages forums. I am going to ask you to please STOP that, and show RESPECT for me and any other member of HubPages as the rules do state. I don't care what you say about political figures.
  
  Now, that being said, I respect you as a person. I just ignore some comments with personal attacks because I really don't care to waste my time replying. But, you are different. I hope we can have a better understanding going forward.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I have problems with some of your ideas and perspectives and the sources of your information and how it is supported when challenged, Nothing personal, no more or no less than I give to Ahorseback and Sgt Prepper.
  
  You are not being attacked, but your ideas are and that is fair game.
  
  The respect is mutual, but when you deal with an adversary such as me, and I, unfortunately, have to take and adversarial attitude about so many of your opinions you need to expect challenge from all sides. When you put it out there, you have to allow for that possibility.
  
  Let's have the understanding, but if you are wrong or I have a differing opinion, let's not call it a personal attack, but having the courage of your convictions for anyone to be willing and able to back up anything they put out there.
  
  I sure we could share a cup of coffee or tea sometimes and talk about some of the less contentious subject matter you focus on in some your hubs, but we should avoid politics!!!
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Hi, Sarge.
  
  When you talk about the general ruthlessness of the system regardless of party, I am on board with you. The system is far too corrupt to be changed by any political party.
  
  But which group always seem to be giving the wealthy and money changers a wide berth?
  
  So, that makes Bernie Sanders the only one that will speak truth to power and challenge the control of the common citizen by the wealthy and affluent. Who else has been bold enough to threaten the power brokers? There's Satan's system for you, but some are making it more difficult to identify and subsequently dislodge than others....
  
  We can find ground for a truce when we all accept that the issue is not either red nor blue, but green !!
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Here we go! North Texas mosque got shut down for funding a terrorist organization in Pakistan. A lot of activity seems to happen right in our back yard and we don’t know it.

http://qpolitical.com/north-texas-mosqu … terrorism/

Hopefully, the US will do what they are doing in Paris after the terrorist attack and raid all of the mosques.
http://www.inquisitr.com/2622046/paris- … es-inside/

Don't like the links Google it! But, you might not find it reported on liberal media.

Obama won't do a darn thing...
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you, Colorfulone for sharing this.
  
  1. I tried to check into it and could not find any information from mainstream media that corroborates the story by blatantly conservatives blogs. I would expect you to be just as suspicious if I documented a story from Salon, Slate, MsNBC, you might suspect liberal bias.
  
  2. If such an event did occur then that mosque should be shut down and those operatives involved in aiding and abetting our enemies should be arrested and prosecuted for breaking the law. I don't want to give you or anyone the impression that I will overlook and be lenient in such a case.
  
  3, There are thousands of mosques in the country, before I start making blanket assumptions about them all to the point of harassment or unwarranted surveillance and arrests, I am going to need more evidence than wrongdoing by one Mosque in Texas.
  
  4. The President is being wise by being prudent and not an alarmist, casting a net over everyone because of the activities of a few. That is not the American way and not the way any of us would want to be treated. The President is quite correct for not rushing to judgement in this matter in an irresponsible way.
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  AliciaCposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  +1 I agree with all your points.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Kudos to you, Alicia, thanks for your supportive comment!
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  Quilligrapherposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Good evening, Cred.
  
  Contrary to the claim in Ms. C’s post, the mosque mentioned by qpolitical.com was never shut down. The Islamic Association of North Texas is open and serves Muslims in the local community who are honest and peaceful.
  
  “Asalamu Alaikum to our friends and fellow community members. While IANT usually does not comment on specific news articles, please be assured that we are NOT shut down. We maintain excellent relationships with local law enforcement, including the FBI. We have never been under the threat of closure. On the contrary, we are humbled to serve in a leadership role for advancing positive interfaith dialogue on both a local and national level."{1}
  
  The report in qpolitcal was just published, but it disguises the fact that it is not current news. Five high-level members of the mosque were convicted over six years ago of channeling funds to Hamas in Palestine through a local charity called the Holy Land Foundation (HLF). The foundation, not the mosque, was shut down and its assets seized. {2}
  
  A further indication that Ms. C’s post was not filtered for accuracy: Pakistan is not even mentioned in the qpolitical report. Hamas is a terrorist group that operates in Israel.
  
  {1} https://www.facebook.com/IANTmasjid
  {2} http://www.charityandsecurity.org/syste … Terror.pdf Holy Land Foundation (HLF) p. 7
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks, Quill
  
  While I did not have all the details, I would think that a story having the potential magnitude of this one would be plastered all over the news. When I found that not even Fox would touch such a tempting tidbit, I smelled a rat.
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Odd that sites would print stories that are not true, disturbing. They must be in it for the money is my guess. Live and learn!

Hamas is a Palestinian Islamic organization in the Palestinian territories and elsewhere in the Middle East including Qatar, it has banned in Jordan. There is a branch in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It is interesting that some countries categories Hamas as a terrorist organization while other countries do not. Even though the military-wing of Hamas launches attacks on Israeli soldiers and civilians using suicide bombers and rockets.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamas

France is reported to have raided 2,235 places since the attack in Paris and shut down three mosques, arrested 232 people, and confiscated weapons of war.
http://www.france24.com/en/20151202-fra … is-attacks

I am wondering if the terrorists arrested in France are Hamas. I cannot seem to find out what organization it is. Maybe "qpolitical" has a story that includes that information.

"A further indication that Ms. C’s post was not filtered for accuracy: Pakistan is not even mentioned in the qpolitical report. Hamas is a terrorist group that operates in Israel." ... said Quill .
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Jewish professor shuts down a female member of the Muslim Student's Association (MSA) a part of the Muslim Brotherhood network. She was asking about funding for their Hitler Youth Week.
  
  She did a great job of exposing the MSA as a communist group while trying to be a smartie-pants. Islamic socialism?
  
  When asked if she would condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization, her reply was "Are you asking me to put myself on a cross?" ... while wearing an Islamic war scarf around her neck.
  
  She publicly stated that she is in favor of all the Jews gathering in Israel so that they don't have to be hunted down (to be killed).
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yGN8SlIEZ8
  
  BTW, we do have MSA groups on college campuses in the United States, since about 1963 I think.
  
  Isn't that the same raised fist Black Lives Matter and the Black Panthers use?
  
  Hitler and Mohammad (allah) ordered people killed...Jesus never did!
  
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Dr. Ben Carson's Outlined Plan to Protect America; Calls for Declaration of War Against ISIS
  
  https://www.bencarson.com/news/news-upd … ainst-isis
  
  To urge the Department of State to “designate the Muslim Brotherhood and other organizations that propagate or support Islamic terrorism as terrorist organizations, and fully investigate the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) as an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood and a supporter of terrorism.”
  
  CAIR has visited the White House (Rainbow House) a number of times. Obama supports their civil liberties, and sides with the Islamic State over the FBI. What's that say about the Obama administration? Obama supports terrorist groups here and abroad.
  
  In November 2014, the United Arab Emirates named CAIR as one of 82 designated terrorist organizations around the world, placing it in the company of al-Qaida and ISIS.
  
  CAIR, according to the evidence, was born out of a need to give a “media twinkle” to the Muslim leaders’ agenda of supporting violent jihad abroad while slowly institutionalizing Islamic law in the U.S.
  
  An internal FBI memo written by the former head of the FBI’s counter-terrorism division describes “all attendees” of the meeting – including Awad – as “Hamas members.”
  
  Along with CAIR, prominent U.S. organizations launched by Muslim Brotherhood leaders include the Muslim Students Association, North American Islamic Trust, the Islamic Society of North America, the American Muslim Council, the Muslim American Society and the International Institute of Islamic Thought.
  
  ‘Ample evidence’
  
  Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/fbi-evidence … 0FpGY8l.99
  
  This is an "Ugly Direction"!
  Remember: Hillary Clinton doubles down on Obama's B.S.
  Do not vote for Hillary!
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  2015 Time Magazine Muslim of the Year is Obama!
  http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/muslim-of-the-year/
  
  A Must Read!...funny but oh so true!
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  No other Muslim has done as much, particularly given his power as president of the United States, to further Allah’s goal of a Christian and Jew-free world. The Holy Quran, as Obama likes to call it, teaches that this false god’s will must be obeyed and that all infidels must perish from the earth. As the inscription reads on a ring the “Muslim of the Year” has worn since college, “There is no god but Allah,” his actions and non-actions have paid homage to his real and only “deity.” Indeed, Obama can issue all the Christmas messages he falsely utters to the American people and the world – pretending to be a Christian for political expediency, subterfuge and dastardly cover – but after seven years of his presidency, “We the People” are no longer fooled. You do not have to be Donald Trump to see reality at this point. And here is the concrete proof...
  Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/muslim-of-th … UccJJbi.99
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Short Storiessposted 8 years ago
There are buddhist monks slaughtering people in Myanmar,all buddhists must be terrorists.The majority of crime in USA is done by blacks,all blacks must be criminal according to your logic.Most racism incidents involve whites so all whites must be racist.Thats why general statements never work,how about judging a person by his/her acts instead of their religion,race or skin color
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Well that's a funny short story!
  Thank you for your creative writing.
  I like non-fiction.
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  Short Storiessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Did i make you speechless? Oh well racists can't argue for long.What a pity
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  Short Storiessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  What buddhist monks are doing,or the crimes and racist incidents involving blacks and whites are not happening in a fantasy land but i guess you choose to ignore them since you are a hypcrite
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I have no idea what Buddhist Monks are doing. This is the first I have read anything like that. Is this something you are educated on, because I would be interested in learning. Is there a story that you would like to share. Or, did you come here to call names and be disrespectful on the HubPages forums?
  
  What buddhist monks are doing,or the crimes and racist incidents involving blacks and whites are not happening in a fantasy land but i guess you choose to ignore them since "you are a hypcrite".
  
  That is False! I am not acting different than my own beliefs or feelings. Stop name calling.
  
  Anyway, this thread is not about Buddhists, so I do not understand your judge-mentalist posts. The thread is about Muslims...but, I don't mind getting off topic a little. I'm flexible. Muslim terrorists do not have one skin color. Please make your point more clear!
  
  The Buddhist Monks might be better discussed in its own thread. Please, feel free to start one.
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  Quilligrapherposted 8 years agoin reply to this
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Short Storiessposted 8 years ago
Let me explain how its related.You are claiming that all 1.6 billion muslims are terrorists because of what Hamas is doing so all buddhists must be terrorists because of what their monks are doing in Mynamar.All whites must be racists since most racism incidents involve whites and all blacks must be criminals since most of the crime is done by blacks.
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Short Storiessposted 8 years ago
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressiv … n-myanmar/
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I see that article is nearing a year old, but that doesn't matter. I found an article dated Sept. of 2015 titled 25,000 Muslim rioters torch Buddhist temples, homes in Bangladesh. Sounds like the Muslims and Buddhist are at war trying to rid the earth of each other and it sounds horrible. I certainly will speak prayers for peace.
  
  You are claiming that all 1.6 billion muslims are terrorists because of what Hamas is doing
  
  I am not claiming that. Never have, never will. That is false!
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  Short Storiessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Hahahhaha interesting,so why shouldn't a muslim be allowed to be the President of USA?
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with Ben Carson. “I do not believe Sharia is consistent with the Constitution of this country. Muslims feel that their religion is very much a part of your public life and what you do as a public official, and that’s inconsistent with our principles and our Constitution.”
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  <snipped>. Get saved before The Rapture and get ready for martial-law and Sharia Law!
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  Short Storiessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I am sure Pope Francis understands Bible better then you do.If Obama was a muslim why would he support homosexuality and abortions,You realize Islam is against them
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  Short Storiessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  The arab Christians call god "Allah".God can not be the Satan,you should quit smoking
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Short Storiessposted 8 years ago
There are millions of muslims living in USA under the same constitution,I don't see them trying to enforce sharia law.Again assumptions,assumptions and assumptions.Just because he is a muslim President he will enforce sharia law since some muslims support it.Just because he is a white president he will enforce laws that encourage racism and a black president will enforce laws that promote crime,a mexican president will enforce laws which promote drugs.The bottom line is All whites are not racist,all blacks are not criminals,all mexicans are not drug dealers and all muslims do not want sharia law.About time we stop judging entire race or religion by the actions of a few
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Short Storiessposted 8 years ago
Donald Trump is the perfect example,a white racist presidential candidate,the things he said about Mexicans and muslims but he is still allowed to run for presidency but you don't want a muslim as president because he "might" enforce sharia laws
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
PROOF Allah is Satan: From the words of Muhammad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GD4hEk3VYo

Anyone can be a Muslim if they believe in Allah.
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Short Storiessposted 8 years ago
Oh cmon really? I can make a youtube video which says i am the prophet
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
ABC NEWS dug up the video where President Jimmy Carter announced the ban on Iranian immigration in 1980. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/ … mmigration

I just do not remember that happening.

Added:
The former customs and border agent, Philip Haney, claims that the State Department and Homeland Security Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties closed down an investigation. He was looking into a group named Tablighi Jamaat. Philip Haney says the investigation was shut down because the Regime "did not want to profile Islamic groups." Well, who the hell are we profiling if we're not profiling Islamic groups at Homeland Security and at immigration, for crying out loud?
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/ … ino_attack

DHS Whistleblower Says Obama Regime Shut Down Probe That Would've Stopped San Bernardino Attack

Israel is under attack, yet we're sending 400 million of our hard-earned tax dollars annually to terrorists at war with our ally?

We must stop funding the terrorist-led Palestinian Authority. SIGN & SHARE if you agree: http://bit.ly/1RdkiSV
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  Short Storiessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Israel and Palestine should reach a peaceful solution.Yes Hamas has killed Israelis but Israel army has killed thousands of innocent Palestinians too.
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  Short Storiessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  What do you have to say about Jewish extremists burning Palestinian toddler to death?
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … llage.html
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  Short Storiessposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  But unlike you i don't judge an entire religion by the actions of a few.Jews are friendly and kind hearted people Unfortunately there are some people who use religion to spread hatred.No religion when practiced at its purest allows terrorism
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Certificate of Live Birth vs Birth Certificate

According to the state of Hawaii there is a difference between a Certification of Live Birth and a Birth Certificate.

Hawaii's legal statute:

�[�338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.
(a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, �1]�

An adult can go to Hawaii's Department of Records with proof of legal residence in Hawaii, the document is issued.

A child could than have been born in Hawaii, Kenya, or in whatever place in the world.

So, there are legitimate reasons why some people would still like real answers on the birther issue.

It still remains that Obama could have been elected president of the US in violation of the Constitution. I know its difficult to see the possibility if we drank too much Kool-aid. While the possibility is undeniable.

I thought you might like this Sgt. Merry Christmas!
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Former DOJ Larry Klayman: Obama us a devout muslim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABr20py6u_M

Says, Obama wants to bring America to its knees.
The proof is in the pudding!

“We don’t have any responsibility to protect a foreign citizen. They don’t have First Amendment rights. They have no rights under American constitutional law. Americans have rights, and it’s our job to protect Americans, not the reputation of Islam.” – Mike Huckabee

At the same time, 60% of U.S. voters now think the United States is at war with radical Islamic terrorism, and all the Republican candidates agree. Forty-nine percent (49%) agree with Carson that the United States should formally declare war on the radical Islamic State group ISIS. Both these surveys were taken before San Bernardino, too.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … _party_now

The latest figures include 23% who Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president and 41% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -18.

Curiously absent from the Republican debate was any mention of global warming which Obama and leading Democrats have said is a greater long-term threat to the United States than terrorism. B.S.

Barack Obama said he doesn’t believe in American leadership or America winning. He is wrong.
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago

Dr. Rand Paul says these are the Top 10 things that disqualify Obama for any office.

1. Tried to take over 1/6 of economy in Obamacare, wrecked the system and hurt patients and taxpayers

2. Thinks an executive order is legislation and how you make law

3. Fought an undeclared, unconstitutional war in Libya, turned it into Jihadist wonderland

4. Fighting an undeclared, unconstitutional war in Syria, trying to put ISIS in Damascus.

5. Signed into law the indefinite detention of American citizens

6. His copy of the bill of rights obviously goes from 1 to 3, skipping 2nd amendment.

7. Court ruled his NSA spying on every American was illegal.

8. He has added more debt than anyone in history.

9. Appointed an attorney general who thinks speech against Muslims is a bigger threat than terrorism.

10. EPA rules by executive FIAT trying to kill an entire American industry and way of life (coal).

I'm not going to say much about it, the list speaks for itself. If I said anything, they would be choice words...can't do that on HubPages Forums.
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Dr. Rand Paul says these things? He's an Eye Doctor. Obama is a Constitutional Scholar. In other words, Rand Paul knows maybe as much about the Constitution as any other person that has an interest in that subject, including you or I. Obama doesn't make claims that he knows more about eye surgery than Rand Paul. Why would anybody take Rand Paul seriously on matters of the Constitution? Obama taught the subject at a major university. For example:
  2."Thinks an executive order is legislation and how you make law."
  Rand Paul is going to tell us what Obama "thinks" on how legislation is done v executive powers? That's ridiculous. Obama was a US Senator just like Rand Paul, except that he was a Senator with demonstrated Constitutional knowledge. Rand Paul can't make the same claim.
  
  Or this: "His copy of the bill of rights obviously goes from 1 to 3, skipping 2nd amendment." -- Very Snarky but totally bullshit. I suppose if Snark is what you want, Rand Paul is as good as anybody else.
  
  Or this: "He has added more debt than anyone in history." -- That's an argument used against every president, including Reagan and Bush.
  
  Or this: "Appointed an attorney general who thinks speech against Muslims is a bigger threat than terrorism." --- The SOP for every GOP mouth is to tell others what somebody else thinks. Unless Rand Paul can add "mind reader" to his lofty achievements, it's just hot air that serves as Red Meat to those that avoid actually thinking and buy this goulash. It's ridiculous to think that anti-muslim rhetoric doesn't contribute to the very problem we're dealing with in regards to terrorism. If you were a terrorist, why wouldn't you use every word that comes out against Muslims as evidence that America is attacking Islam. You'd be stupid not to pick up on that gift.
  
  Or this: " EPA rules by executive FIAT trying to kill an entire American industry and way of life (coal)."
  
  Coal is the dirtiest form of energy and what you seem to expect is that the coal industry get a free pass on EPA rulings because it's a "way of life". That way of life is too high a cost on the environment for us to pay. There are much cleaner alternatives to Coal. Kentucky is a coal producing state, so it's no wonder the "good doctor" wants to push that argument. But we shouldn't be held hostage to the demands of Kentucky's coal industry on environmental issue's that effect the whole country, let alone the landscape of Kentucky or West Virginia.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Hello adagio, I am limited on time but I enjoyed reading your post and will read the rest of them later. What came to mind is “The Legal Limit Report No. 4, The Obama Administration’s Abuse of Power”. (There are other reports also).
  
  Most readers are likely familiar with most of the 76 abuses. All are verifiable.
  
  Governing by Executive Fiat
  1. Disregarded 1996 welfare reform law in granting broad work waivers for work requirements of Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF).
  
  2. Implemented portions of the DREAM Act, which Congress rejected, by executive action.
  
  3. Ended some terror asylum restrictions, by allowing asylum for people who provided only “insignificant” or “limited” material support of terrorists.
  
  4. Allowed immigrants in the U.S. illegally, who are relatives of military troops and veterans, to stay in the country and get legal status.
  
  5. Extended federal marriage benefits by recognizing, under federal law, same-sex marriages created in a state that allows same-sex marriage even if the couple is living in a state that doesn’t recognize same-sex marriage.
  
  6. Recognized same-sex marriage in Utah, even though the Supreme Court stayed the court order recognizing same-sex marriage in Utah and Utah said it would not recognize same-sex marriages performed before the stay.
  
  7. Refused to prosecute violation of drug laws with certain mandatory minimums.
  
  8. Issued signing statements, refusing to enforce parts of congressional-enacted statutes.
  
  9. Illegally refused to act on Yucca Mountain’s application to become a nuclear waste repository.
  
  10. Falsely portrayed the Benghazi terrorist attack as a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim YouTube video, and then lied about the White House’s involvement.
  
  11 Illegally revealed the existence of sealed indictments in the Benghazi investigation.
  
  12. Failed to enforce the Magnitsky Act as required by law, by not adding Russian human rights abusers to a list of people not permitted to travel to or do business in the U.S.
  
  13. Killed four Americans overseas in counterterrorism operations without judicial process.
  
  14. Continued to give Egypt aid after the military took over its government, even though federal law prohibits aid to Egypt in the event of a coup.
  
  Obamacare
  15. Granted a “hardship” exemption from the individual mandate for people whose health plans were canceled because their plans weren’t Obamacare compliant.
  
  16. Delayed the individual mandate for two years.
  
  17. Allowed individuals to buy health insurance plans in 2014 that did not comply with Obamacare. Extended this delay until 2016—past the mid-term elections.
  
  18. Extended the deadline to enroll in Obamacare.
  
  19. Illegally granted businesses a waiver from Obamacare’s employer mandate. Twice.
  
  20. Illegally continued the Obamacare employer contribution for congressional staffs.
  
  21. Illegally delayed the Obamacare caps on out-of-pocket healthcare payments.
  
  22. Illegally delayed Obamacare verification of eligibility for healthcare subsidies.
  
  23. Illegally required people to violate their faith via the Obamacare contraception mandate.
  
  24. As of May 2011, over 50% of Obamacare waiver beneficiaries were union members (who account for less than 12% of the American work force).
  
  Economy
  25. Ordered Boeing to fire 1,000 employees in South Carolina and shut down a new factory because it was non-union.
  
  26. Implemented a moratorium on offshore drilling after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill without statutory authority, and continued to enact new versions after federal courts repeatedly invalidated the moratorium.
  
  27. Treated secured creditors worse than unsecured creditors in the Chrysler bankruptcy.
  
  28. Terminated the pensions of 20,000 non-union Delphi employees in the GM bankruptcy.
  
  29. Had SWAT teams raid a Gibson guitar factory and seize property, on the purported basis that Gibson had broken India’s environmental laws—but no charges were filed.
  
  30. Government agencies are engaging in “Operation Choke Point,” where the government asks banks to “choke off” access to financial services for customers engaging in conduct the Administration does not like—such as “ammunition sales.”
  
  Executive Nominees and Personnel
  31. Made illegal “recess” appointments to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the National Labor Relations Board when Congress wasn’t in recess. Ignored the rulings of three federal courts of appeals that held those nominations unconstitutional.
  
  32. Appointed czars to oversee federal policy specifically because czars do not require Senate confirmation, earning criticism from stalwart Democrats such as West Virginia Sen. Robert Byrd and Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold.
  
  33. As of January 2012, 36 of the President’s executive office staff owed $833,970 in back taxes.
  
  34. As of 2011, 311,566 federal employees or retirees owed $3.5 billion in taxes.
  
  Free Speech and Privacy
  35. Illegally targeted conservative groups for heightened IRS scrutiny.
  
  36. Circumvented the Freedom of Information Act, by requiring White House Counsel review of all documents to be released under the Freedom of Information Act that the Administration believed pertained to “White House equities”—and then delayed in producing many of these documents by FOIA’s statutory deadline, or didn’t produce them at all.
  
  37. Got secret permission from the FISA Court to reverse restrictions on the National Security Agency’s use of intercepted phone calls and emails, permitting the NSA to search American’s communications in its databases.
  
  38. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is seeking to monitor about 80% of U.S. credit card transactions.
  
  39. Targeted Fox News reporter James Rosen by falsely labeling him a possible “co-conspirator” in a criminal investigation of a new leak.
  
  40. Secretly obtained phone records from staff at the Associated Press.
  
  41. Had meetings with lobbyists in coffee shops near White House to avoid disclosure requirements.
  
  Other Lawless Acts
  42. Aided drug cartels instead of enforcing immigration laws—as found by a federal judge. Border Patrol agents, multiple times, knowingly helped smuggle illegal immigrant children into the U.S.; “the DHS is encouraging parents to seriously jeopardize the safety of their children.”
  
  43. Illegally sold thousands of guns to criminals, in the operation known as Fast and Furious and then refused to comply with congressional subpoenas about the operation.
  
  44. Dismissed charges filed by Bush Administration against New Black Panther Party members who were videotaped intimidating voters at a Philadelphia polling station during the 2008 election.
  
  45. Argued for expansive federal powers in the Supreme Court, which has rejected the Administration’s arguments unanimously 9 times since January 2012.
  
  46. Sued Louisiana to stop school vouchers and keep low-income minorities trapped in failing schools.
  
  47. Threatened to arrest military priests for practicing their faith during the partial government shutdown.
  
  48. Muzzled the speech of military chaplains.
  
  49. Sued fire departments saying their multiple-choice, open-book written employment tests were racially discriminatory.
  
  50. Gave 23,994 tax refunds worth more than $46 million to aliens here illegally using the same address in Atlanta, GA.
  
  Other Abuses of Power
  51. Released a mentally ill Guantanamo detainee… who had been a high-risk al Qaeda fighter in jihad combat since the 1980s.
  
  52. Backed release of the Lockerbie bomber, Abdel Baset al-Megrahi.
  
  53. President Obama told NASA administrator to “find a way to reach out to the Muslim world.”
  
  54. Claimed the Fort Hood shooting was “workplace violence” rather than terrorism.
  
  55. Signed a stimulus bill that spent money on bonuses for AIG executives, and then acted shocked and outraged at the bonuses.
  
  56. Gave $535 million to Solyndra, which went bankrupt; Solyndra shareholders and officials made substantial donations to Obama’s campaign.
  
  57. Reneged on a campaign promise to cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term in office.
  
  58. Increased the national debt more in one term than President Bush did in two terms.
  
  59. Extended mortgage assistance to people who bought multiple homes during the housing bubble.
  
  60. Proposed rules that would have decimated family farms, by prohibiting children under 18 from doing many forms of farm work.
  
  61. Former “safe schools czar” has written about his past drug abuse and advocated promoting homosexuality in schools.
  
  62. Nominated Timothy Geithner—who had significant tax issues —to head the Treasury Department, which enforces tax laws.
  
  63. Reneged on campaign promise to broadcast healthcare reform negotiations on C-SPAN.
  
  64. Reneged on a campaign promise to wait five days before signing any non-emergency bill (at least 10 times during first 3 months in office).
  
  65. Unilaterally, increased the minimum wage for federal contract workers from $7.25 to $10.10, via executive order.
  
  66. Cancelled all White House tours after sequestration—purportedly saving $18,000 per week—even though President Obama had spent more than $1 million in tax money to golf with Tiger Woods one weekend a few weeks before.
  
  67. Adopted pro-union “ambush election” rules.
  
  68. Pressured Ford to pull an anti-auto-bailout TV ad.
  
  69. Actively, aided in George Zimmerman protests.
  
  70. Tried to seize a privately owned motel when guests used illegal drugs at the motel.
  
  71. Shut down the Amber Alert website, while keeping up Let’s Move website, during the partial government shutdown.
  
  72. Gave supervised release to a convicted criminal (an alien here illegally) who later killed a nun in a DUI.
  
  73. Shut down an Amish farm for selling fresh unpasteurized milk across state lines.
  
  74. Spent $7 million per household in “stimulus funds” to connect a few Montana households to the Internet.
  
  75. Spent $205,075 in “stimulus” funds to relocate a shrub that sells for $16.
  
  76. Fired an inspector general after investigating an $850,000 AmeriCorps grant received by a nonprofit run by former NBA star and Obama supporter Kevin Johnson (now mayor of Sacramento).
  
  http://www.scribd.com/doc/222739165/Ted-Cruz-Report
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  It amazes me when I post verifiable facts about Obama that none of the liberals want to reply to reality.
  
  Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God, says Franklin Graham. TRUE!
  http://www.faithfamilyamerica.com/frank … p_same_god
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  
  It is Obama who wants to ignore "that pesky Constitution".
  The Constitution goes against his "Holy Quran" and shariah law.
  
  Ted Cruz has spent a lifetime fighting to defend the Constitution — our nation’s founding document and the supreme law of the land — which was crafted by our founding fathers to act as chains to bind the mischief of government and to protect the liberties endowed to us by our Creator.
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Do a little more research and you will find multiple theories about carbon dioxide and its impact on the atmosphere and human health? Some of the increase is due to the growing global population--does anyone want to dictate how many children should be born each year--I don't think so. It is easy to find what you want to find on the Internet. You Tube films rank at the bottom of my list of reliable sources. Read the scholarly papers, review the footnotes, put everything in perspective. Do not base your opinion on one source. I had to study greenhouse gases in my last job. I am not a scientist. I was just reviewing data and therefore, will not offer a specific comment other than the issue is more complicated thanyou may think and the impact may not fit the conclusion you have already reached.
This is a complicated subject and will not be adequately explained in this forum.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I have spent time researching the environment and the effects of emissions. Not to the point that I would dare think I was an expert either, like yourself. I have my favorite sites with serious expert analysis. This is my Top Pick.
  http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
  
  When it comes to YouTube its like finding the reporters you can trust just like finding news sites with journalists you can trust. Some are only in it for the money and don't care what line of bull they push. I can read news articles then do some keyword search on YouTube and find out what exactly came out of the horses mouth in most cases.
  
  It used to be called 'global warming' but since the satellite data hasn't changed in 19 years and proves that 'global warming' is not a threat...the government changed the wording to 'climate change'. Hey, everyone knows that 'climate change' is occurring all the time. But, not 'global warming'.
  
  Why 'they' do not use the 'satellite data' when pushing the 'climate change' or 'global warming' agenda is ridiculous. To me its obvious, to some it is not. The truth is the world elite leaders like to keep people in the dark but there are many who see through what 'they' say...because of knowledge, real scientific data, satellite imagery, etc. Its interesting to me...and at times highly entertaining to watch on the world stage.
  
  It is a complicated topic. I'm just presenting information that someone else might be interested in researching for themselves. I do like to point out certain aspects of deceptions as I see it. I am skeptical of those filthy rich elites who pull the strings of elected representatives and don't care about you and me.
  
  We can shine a light in the darkness but will the darkness be able to comprehend it?
  
  Mark 4:22 For nothing is hidden, except to be revealed; nor has anything been secret, but that it would come to light.
  
  Thanks, Larry Wall and Merry Christmas!
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  With yourself, Colorfulone, it seems you pick those whom you want to trust. And presumably that will largely depend upon your "feelings" towards the reporter/journalist rather than a specific knowledge of their trust-worthiness.
  
  Also, if you mix your personal beliefs with pseudo-science, or science which you don't clearly understand, that can be a comprehension which is not necessarily trust-worthy.
  
  Just a point of view you might care to consider.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds like you might have had some psycho-therapy Johnny, but I don't understand why you would use transference of you feelings and attitudes toward me. Makes me worry, I hope you will alright.
  
  So, Muslims are pedophiles among other wicked things .
  http://joeforamerica.com/2015/12/islami … mpaign=USH
  
  Those children are brides of scum.
  
  Its called child sex trafficking in the real world.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  So are Mormons.....
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I didn't know that but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised since polygamy is allowed. Thanks for the tip Cred.
  
  So how's the weather where you are? We got hit with about 6-7" of snow this week, I'm still not done shoveling.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  You got caught in that same storm that dumped on Denver a couple days back. Relations told me as much.
  
  As for East Central Florida, highs in the upper 70's and low 80's, lows in the mid to low sixties, nothing to complain about, no ice to be seen except in my soft drink.
  
  If I could, I would send you some virtual sunshine, but don't want to rub it in.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I just ordered a Sunshine Simulator 10,000 LUX today. Mom and I take Vitamin D-3 everyday and it seems to help with the lack of sunshine during cloudier seasons. Good to hear its sunny and warm somewhere.
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll: Rasmussen Reports

46% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance.
52% disapprove

78% of Democrats like the job the president is doing
84% of Republicans and 56% of voters not affiliated with either major party disagree

26% of all likely voters who Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president
42% who Strongly Disapprove.

This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -16

* http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … cking_poll
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Behind every President, every Prime Minister, behind every contender, there are other individuals. All seeking to steer policies and philosophies to their way of thinking, to their ulterior, often selfish benefit. I suggest no more so than in the oligarchy that is the United States of America. And mostly out of public view.
  Why do seek to blame just one man? Just because it's easy and you don't have to think about it too much?
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I learned a new word, "oligarchy". Ty I have to agree with that on how things are run. I've pointed out the main man who pulls Obama's strings in this thread, but this thread is not about him. I could talk about the foreign governments that influence him as well, but this thread is not about those governments. And, I do not care to start other topic threads to discus them. I have enough to think about, and frankly I think to much...thank you very much.
  
  What was I just blaming Obama for...his poor ratings as president? People voted on those ratings according to what they think. Thankfully, I didn't have to think too much or run a poll. Easy!
  
  I just thought it was interesting information to share for people like yourself who might be interested in the data. We don't have to read threads if they don't interest us, Johnny. But, you are more than welcome!
  
  ADDED: and I don't want to talk about who wears the pants in the WH.
  
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, come on! All she's saying is, "I Love You!"
  
  And btw, Happy Christmas.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  You think so? ... Aw-okey, its Christmas! She said "I love you."
  
  Merry Christmas...Peace on Earth...
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  You post a picture and add your own caption and presume that it reflects your bias regarding this president? My how inventive. Like I"ve never seen that done before. "ADDED: and I don't want to talk about who wears the pants in the WH. " ...she said while adding who she thinks wears the pants in the WH.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I was having a bit of a fun conversation at the time with Johnny I think. Was that Christmas Day or Christmas Eve. I had PEACE!
  
  Without looking back to see what else I wrote, it was like she said "I love you." I was parroting Johnny because he humorously said that. It was cute!
  
  So! What's the deal?
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
On Christmas Eve, the Obama Administration dumped more secret Benghazi, (Libya on September 11, 2012) documents, emails that have been heavily blacked out.

Nope, no cover-up here, not much to see! So, how much longer is Obama and Hillary going to drag-out the Select Committee's Benghazi investigation to find the truth and nothing but?... not much longer when the truth is hidden. Or, maybe they will drag it out for another year because all of the emails and documents have not been turned over yet.

PDF: http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/FOIA … -00205.pdf

Nothing to say thanks for!
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Trump talks about deporting illegal aliens and gets called ...a racist.

Obama in a recent speech talked about deporting illegal aliens...silence!

Hypocrisy. Anyone can see that and the bias of hypocrites.

Its good that the Obama Administration has started deporting illegals.
Finally, he took his lead from Trump...a real smart guy!
Bravo!

Next, Obama is going to have to drop his unlawful-amnesty for illegal aliens (among other violations) and it won't be soon enough. He knows that the Supreme Court ruling will side with law against his unilateral executive order.

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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Most likely election jerrymandering!
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Pretty sure this is about jerrymandering or...
  
  "Redistricting" which the Supreme Court is grappling with.
  http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … istricting
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Jonas Rodrigoposted 8 years ago
I disagree - everyone should have the right to lead the country if they want to and are able to do it.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Our Constitution disagrees with you. Only a natural-born citizen can legally run for President. That means someone born on U.S. soil after 1787 to parents who were BOTH Americans at the time. Hence Cruz, Rubio, Santorum, Jindahl, McCain & Bathhouse Barry are or were illegal candidates. Bernie Sanders had dual-citizenship with Israel so he is an illegal candidate as well. Our last best hope to restore America and undo what this usurper has done is birther Trump with Ben Carson as VP. It is just a crying shame the Bush-family and the Clintons will find a way to prevent Trump's election.
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "Hence Cruz, Rubio, Santorum, Jindahl, McCain & Bathhouse Barry are or were illegal candidates."
  
  You do realize that Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. Hawaii became a state in 1959. His mother was an American Citizen born in Wichita Kansas. It doesn't matter where you were born, if at least one of your parents are a US Citizen, You have natural born status as a US citizen. His fathers citizenship has absolutely no bearing on Baracks. Obama is a US Citizen as long as he doesn't renounce it. Our government recognizes the citizenship of at least one parent as necessary for citizenship. Obama was born in the State of Hawaii and his mother is a US Citizen. End of Story. Cruz however, unlike Obama actually was born in another country. In fact, he held dual citizenship with Canada until after he became a US Senator. Only then did he declare his US Citizenship and reject the Canadian Citizenship which I'm sure Canada is really sad about. Nevertheless his mother was a US citizen. That makes Cruz a US citizen and eligible to run for President.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Actually Bathhouse Barry was born a 100% British Subject in Kenya before his adoption in Indonesia. The Hawaiian Birth Certificate is an obvious forgery and the Connecticut Social Security number was stolen from a dead man who had vacationed in Hawaii. Worst of all this usurper is the man of lawlessness predicted in the Bible. Jesuit Pope Francis is the False Prophet.
  Get saved before The Rapture!
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Are YOU the face of the political right? So many of them sound like you, except that you are a bit more expressive. If most of you still think like this, it will be a cakewalk defeating any GOP candidate next fall.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I am a FORMER Republican activist and former political junkie. I was twice elected GOP Ward Party Committeeman & served as a City Constable one term. I also was defeated soundly in an Aldermanic race and as the GOP nominee for State Assembly. I am done with politics and I am done with voting. It is ALL lies.
  The ONLY written truth is found in the Bible as all newspapers, magazines, book publishers and the entire mainstream-media(including FoxNews & npr) are owned and operated by an evil-cabal of global-elite commonly referred to as "The Illuminati". They have been using the Freemasons, Skull&Bones, Oxford University, the Jesuits, Bilderbergs, Bohemian Grove, etc for MANY decades to establish their Luciferian NWO.
  Everything you think you know is a lie. I am sorry I have to break it to you but Oswald was a patsy, the Titanic was really the RMS Olympic and Jack-the-Ripper was a collection of Freemasons working on behalf of Queen Victoria covering up the adventures of her flamboyant grandson " Prince Eddy".
  What you see on TV is nothing but fairy tales and pabalum lulling us asleep until the next false-flag event which I expect soon.
  The Protocols of the Learned Elders of the Priory of Sion and General Albert Pike's letter advocating three world wars are also the truth.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  My! What a colourful character you are, Sgt! Just as well most of us don't take you seriously. Quite a laught really.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Seriously consider the words of Jesus "You must be born again"! He provides our one and only means of escape from the coming wrath and judgment of God while Antichrist Obama rules the whole world.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  You want to see the Anti-Christ, just wait until Trump gets on the scene.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  The Bush-family, the Clintons & the rest of the Illuminati will stop birther Trump dead in his tracks.
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  trump would be worse than the anti-christ.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  That statement makes no sense whatsoever. How could anybody be "worse" than The Antichrist? World War Three, crash of the dollar, martial-law and persecution of Christians are all being brought to us by the Kenyan-born man-of-lawlessness Barack H. Obama.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  And you really think that that Jesus you talk about would approve your hate-filled, narrow-minded, judgemental, fanatical mentality?
  If you are in fact serious about all of this and not just stirring the pot of argument, then my laughter must cease.....you must be tarred with the same brush as Adolf Hitler.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  The ONLY person I hate in the entire world is Kenyan-born Antichrist Obama and I believe God expects me to hate Obama as He hates this man of lawlessness. BHO will soon make Hitler look like a Girl Scout.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  The Constitution of your country allows you to speak your mind without being thrown around into gaol or worse.
  I suggest you spend a lot more time honouring and respecting that Constitution and the people for whom it exists. It exists for the President and every individual of the Nation, answerable to the Law of the land; fortunately not to the fanatical judgments of persons such as yourself.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Legally Obama couldn't run for Dogcatcher. He violated OUR Constitution simply by running illegally for President. Howard Dean & Nancy Pelosi enabled him. Even the Republican congressmen have helped keep this usurper illegally in our Whitehouse. Jesus is our ONLY hope for salvation. Soon this Antichrist BHO will be inhabited by the devil himself.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  In that case I exit this argument and hand you back to your fellow citizens for judgment.
  Bye.
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  Bill Yovinoposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Intellectually challenged people are funny! Thanks for the laughs.
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I have to admit to having baited Sgt Pepper regarding Obama being a US citizen. I had a hunch he'd take the bait (and he did) but I didn't think he'd add so much more over the top commentary regarding Jesus and Repenting before it's too late. Now that we have a full reading of the Sgt's mindset, I think we can take his comments for exactly what they're worth.
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Have you been tested for cognitive changes? Mental decline? I'm not mocking. In all seriousness, um, your views aren't anchored in reality or rational.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Laura, please read the following. Nice to see ya"!
  
  The HubPages Forum Rules: http://hubpages.com/faq/#forums-rules
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Yes thanks, fully aware of the rules by Hub and The Golden Rule in life, and yet I still maintain the question and would wholeheartedly expect someone question my faculties on an article that seemed to posit such extreme conspiratorial theories.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe do some research before assuming. True, conspiracy theorists are proven to be smarter than those who view and read mainstream news propaganda, because they only want people to think like what they say or print for the most part...and its getting worse. Whitewashing, brainwashing, ...
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I've done a fair amount of research. You think I've been brainwashed and I think you and Sgt Pepper have regarding Obama.This means we are at a stand off and to try to convince each other of facts is a futile effort. Best that we just agree to disagree and live peacefully and respectfully in the comfort of our own beliefs and truth.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  All is well, Laura. Credence and I have agreed to disagree (I like him), there's nothing wrong with that. The fun stops when I see people being insulting. I like to at least try to keep this thread to a respectful discussion but I am only human...and can't always be around. I like you and that most like won't change if we have different viewpoints.
  
  I don't mind if it gets off topic once in awhile either. I'm flexible!
  
  No I do not think you have been brainwashed...that is not what I said.
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you I respect your tone and dedication to keeping dialogue civil, critical to advance any issue even if it remains at an uunbudging stand off. I came in sort of by default of my interest in human behavior, from the psychological and emotional standpoint of why we form conspiracy theories.,Most of us do to some degree or another. I am for ex a big believer that drug companies, Big Pharma, are in it ONLY to increase profits...not to cure which isn't to their advantage.. And yet the critical thinking / logical part of my brain knows that isn't ENTIRELY true.. Because if a company could cure cancer imagine the profits? anyway..I Enjoyed the dialogue but will step out since my POVis largely off topic.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  A big Pharam conspiracy? I don't wonder when 11 alternative health doctors who were linked together (because of knowledge) were found dead in a short period of time in 2015. Plus, 29 holistic doctors got poisoned. Supposedly, they had found a cure for cancer, etc. according to what I have read. But, that got swept under a rug expediently. If, there is a cure for things like cancer, big Pharma would stand to lose big profits, so its in their best interest to stop medical progress, I believe.
  
  The top pharmaceutical companies donate large political contributions. Their lobbing spending is in the millions...money still talks in Washington, on Wall Street and with career politicians...its what makes the world go round for them. Money still is the root of all evil...greed breeds corruption on many levels and one hand washes the other.
  
  I love a mystery, but that rabbit trail isn't going anywhere with the money those corporations generate. Prescription drug spending was approximately $374 billion in 2014. Many prescriptions do more damage to a person's health and well-being than good...
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Agreeing to disagree is like compromise. It is resignation. I will NEVER stop crying out that "Obama WAS born in Kenya." until they pry the stylus from my cold, dead fingers.
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Compromise isn't necessarily a sign of weakness; it can show strength, or certainly weariness with the effort...but ok I resign but check out the origins of the Obama Kenya "confession"
  
  http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi … otborn.asp
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Obama was born in Hawaii. Cruz was actually born in Canada. You've swallowed the Kool-aid, bought the sauce, jumped into the cesspool. You obviously prefer your alternative reality to the real world. Good luck with all of that. According to your own words: "Agreeing to disagree is like compromise. It is resignation." it's pretty clear that as a devout ideologue, no amount of facts or evidence will change your mind. So, enjoy Fantasyland. The reality based community will still be here when you decide to join them.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Just like President Reagan said "You people don't want to know the truth, that's why you're stupid." When Bathhouse Barry was the first almost half-black president of the Harvard Law Review he wrote in his mini-bio that he was "born in Kenya". He mentioned it repeatedly and proudly throughout his life until about 2007.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Having watched the You Tube video of Mr. Barack Obama's address concerning his book, when he was "almost half-black" president of Harvard Law School, I can only view him as an honest, intelligent, decent brother human, who has been willing to search the depths of his being for important answers to his numerous doubts and dilemmas.
  If I were a citizen of your country I would be profoundly proud to have him as my President.
  Not to suggest he is without faults and failings. Point me to any human that is! But compared with some past-presidents he is streets ahead. Get real and give him your support.
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  rebekahELLEposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I've only read the last couple of pages here, but see that things haven't changed much in the forums. I think people believe what they want to believe is true, whether it's fact, fiction, fairy tales, conspiracies, on and on. I'm often intrigued as to why people take incredible amounts of time and energy to defend someone like Trump or Carson. But I guess it goes back to self identity and feeling validated. If we identify with someone or a belief, we choose to believe that it's worthy of our belief.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  There really is no hope for people who don't want to know the truth. Instead they choose to believe lies like global-warming, evolution, same-sex marriage, murder of unborn children and Obama's forged Hawaiian Birth Certificate. The mere fact BHO Sr was NEVER an American disqualifies this usurper and Antichrist. Get ready for The Rapture!
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Wise words, Laura. +++
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "While psychologists can’t know exactly what goes on inside our heads, they have, through surveys and laboratory studies, come up with a set of traits that correlate well with conspiracy belief. In 2010, Swami and a co-author summarized this research in The Psychologist, a scientific journal. They found, perhaps surprisingly, that believers are more likely to be cynical about the world in general and politics in particular. Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and powerlessness. Economic recessions, terrorist attacks and natural disasters are massive, looming threats, but we have little power over when they occur or how or what happens afterward. In these moments of powerlessness and uncertainty, a part of the brain called the amygdala kicks into action. Paul Whalen, a scientist at Dartmouth College who studies the amygdala, says it doesn’t exactly do anything on its own. Instead, the amygdala jump-starts the rest of the brain into analytical overdrive — prompting repeated reassessments of information in an attempt to create a coherent and understandable narrative, to understand what just happened, what threats still exist and what should be done now. This may be a useful way to understand how, writ large, the brain’s capacity for generating new narratives after shocking events can contribute to so much paranoia in this country." http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/ma … l?referer=
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I read that before and thought it interesting. I don't know if that is true or not, or only in part. Its different from other material I have read, I devour information.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, I see. It's perfectly ok for someone here to disparage and insult an absent person (who happens to be currently President of The United States of America), to accuse him of all manner of wrong-doings, lying, conniving, etc.
  Yet when someone here in HubPages, words quite carefully and without being derogatory, thus: " Lauragowens wrote: Have you been tested for cognitive changes? Mental decline? I'm not mocking. In all seriousness, um, your views aren't anchored in reality or rational, " -- a very reasonable question in the light of "Sgt Prepper's" post here -- then you seem to regard it as out of order and to be criticized.
  
  Ok, so try being consistent.
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Be careful, Laura, these guys don't always take opposing viewpoints in the spirit that they are rendered!! Don't get reported to the "Dream Police"..
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  If, you read back on this thread you will be able to read some of your own posts, Cred -
  
  "Be careful, Laura, these guys don't always take opposing viewpoints in the spirit that they are rendered!! Don't get reported to the "Dream Police""
  
  There is nothing wrong with opposing views...I do not have a problem with that, it makes life more interesting and I get to see how others think and express themselves. Its the accusing and insulting / disrespect that I will speak up about from time to time.
  
  Respect: Please maintain respect for other Hubbers, even if you don’t necessarily agree with them. Keep your language clean and don’t make personal attacks. By choosing to be civil, you make the discussion better for everyone involved.
  
  Thanks!
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Ok, I always knew that you were all for the highest standards of deportment while communicating within the hub pages forums
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  You too, m'dear.
  
  Did you hear about the US Air Craft Carrier US Truman coming about 1,500 feet of an Iranian rocket? What the heck, are they thinking? Maybe they are just playing.
  
  http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/u-s-c … an-n487536
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I will check the story out, and let you know...
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  We certainly need to 'keep our powder dry'. The Iranians are well aware what to expect upon an attack on a U.S. Naval ship. They are not prepared to face the consequences and I doubt that anybody on their side has seriously contemplated this incident to deliberately plan to be provocative.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  That's kind of what I though. Someone is ignorant and didn't stop to think about getting their rear handed back to them. Hopefully, they were not trying to start something they can't handle.
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Fair warning thank you No one knows me here so they have no idea that I am not a hostile name calling troll. RARELY post or comment and yet I was sucked in by sheer fascination of such deeply layered conspiracy theory of our President...Fascinating stuff to this one time Psych major
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  Bill Yovinoposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  This just keeps getting funnier and funnier! I love it.
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Wow. Not sure I've ever read more conspiratorial paranoid misinformed self-deluded chatter in all my days. It is indeed entertaining, however. End of days? Anti Christ Obama? Birther nonsense? Radical sympathizer? Where pray tell do you get your fodder for conspiracy theory nonsense? Besides your self-selected interpretation of the Bible that is.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  CNN Report: Where's the Birth Certificate, Mr. Soetoro?
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZSB1XmEYKc
  
  Barry Soetoro is Obama's real name.
  
  Obama is unwilling or unable to produce his long-form birth certificate. "Certificate of Live Birth"
  
  ADDED: My apology because I said on another thread that I would knock off the birther thing. But, I failed!
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sure you've already seen this.
  
  http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/indeed … the-u-s-a/
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  No, I had not seen that before, Laura.
  Thank you!
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  You're welcome
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  Credence2posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Seems like that birth certificate looked pretty authentic to me. Do you think that FactCheck.org is a liberal conspirator with the left to conceal Mr. Obama's true origins?
  
  Well, if you have been convinced, you might pass your observations over to 'Good Sgt".
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Colorfulone, why are you referring us to videos that were designed at the time, 4 years ago, to discredit a person who was destined to become President? It was all political propaganda. So it's unreasonable, and pointless to bring that up now. It was all dirty politicking, trying to smear him with mud in order to sway public opinion.
  
  At least, that's as I see it.
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "Where pray tell do you get your fodder for conspiracy theory nonsense? "
  
  I think these people are regular listeners to Alex Jones. He makes his living promoting conspiracy theories.
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  Lauragowensposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Ahh ok not familiar with Alex Jones. I'm most fascinated with the notion of Obama as the Anti Christ but that veers into religious beliefs and all that Illuminati conspiracy. I don't want to debate or insult someone's religious views so all I can do is hope that those end of days left behind rapture beliefs provide genuine comfort. I find genuine peace and comfort in NOT believing it for a second, or in an AntiChrist. Different strokes.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  So if you choose not to believe in gravity you will levitate? There is only one truth and it does not change, ever.
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  You don't have to "believe" in gravity. It's self-evident. It's a fact. It's real. Gravity will be there whether you believe in it or not. I think you're having a hard time distinguishing fact from opinion.
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Sgt Pepper. Obviously you are a deranged "birther" who revels in conspiracy theories. This kind of nonsense disqualifies you as a serious minded contributor to this discussion. BTW... the topic of discussion here is about Ben Carson saying No Muslim should be president, which of course is a violation of the Constitution. You do know that much right? Article VI: "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." So, if like most conservatives you are inclined to wave the Constitution in everybody's face, you'll need to step back and re-evaluate this non-sense. It may be Red Meat for the right wing but the idea is totally unconsitutional.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Bird of a feather flock together, "Sgt" Prepper.
  Why don't you form a little dis-united state, all of your own, and gather those whom you admire because they think like yourself, then have a card game amongst yourselves and see who comes up trumps?
  As good a way as any for deciding who might lead you down that slippery path.
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Charefeddineposted 8 years ago
MAP " Muslim And Proud " ♥
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Always be mindful of a Trojan Horse!

http://www.wnd.com/wnd_video/czech-pres … -invasion/

"Organized Invasion" sounds kind of like the Black Lies Movement!
BLM EXPOSED http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli … g-n2046941
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  ""Organized Invasion" sounds kind of like the Black Lies Movement! "
  
  To a racist, I'm sure it would. Except that Blacks aren't "invading" the country. They already live here. One of them lives in the White House.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Wow, you are a high-roller! It sounds to me like assumptions and perhaps some innuendo? You lost me. Thanks for investing your time to reply to my post...no one else had. You are special! Spin!
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Sgt Prepperposted 8 years ago
Thanks colofulone. I was about to get myself kicked off again.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Justice O’Connor opinion in Elk Grove Unified Sch. Dist. v. Newdow, 542 U.S. 1 (2004).
  
  She said, "The Constitution does not guarantee citizens a right entirely to avoid ideas with which they disagree. It would betray its own principles if it did; no robust democracy insulates its citizens from views that they might find novel or even inflammatory."
  
  I would like if who are offended not be insulting.
  But, that's life. Its ok to be offended.
  
  Comedian Steve Hughes... Offended?
  * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMoDt3nSHs
  
  Political correctness is the oppression of our intellectual movement so no one says anything anymore just in case anyone else get’s offended. What happens if you say that and someone gets offended? Well they can be offended, can’t they? What’s wrong with being offended? When did stick and stones may break my bones stop being relevant? Isn’t that what you teach children? He called me an idiot! Don’t worry about it, he’s a ____.
  
  Now you have adults going “I was offended, I was offended and I have rights!” Well so what, be offended, nothing happened. You’re an adult, grow up, and deal with it. I was offended! Well, I don’t care! Nothing happens when you’re offended. “I went to the comedy show and the comedian said something about the lord, and I was offended, and when I woke up in the morning, I had leprosy."
  
  Nothing Happens. “I want to live in a democracy but I never want to be offended again.” Well you’re an idiot.
  
  How do you make a law about offending people? How do you make it an offense to offend people? Being offended is subjective. It has everything to do with you as an individual or a collective, or a group or a society or a community. Your moral conditioning, your religious beliefs. What offends me may not offend you. And you want to make laws about this? I’m offended when I see boy bands for god sake.
  
  It’s a valid offense, I’m offended. They’re cooperate shills, posing as musicians to further a modeling career and frankly I’m disgusted.
  
  I think this guy is funny! Maybe you will enjoy the humor, Sgt. *****
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Well, whoever is getting you kicked off...I don't know who. You know it isn't me. Must be one of them that gets so offended by different views and reverts to insults.
  
  I thought some humor by Steve Hughes would help.
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
President Obama directly violated the Constitution by imposing his lawless Executive action on immigration. He broke the law.

Please, sign the petition to stop this lawless acting-as president.
http://aclj.org/executive-power/stop-pr … 43424433=1

ACLJ is preparing to fight back at the Supreme Court.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  ACLJ = "The American Center for Law & Justice (ACLJ) is a politically conservative, Christian-based social activism organization in the United States......." (Wikipedia). Ah, so at least we know they are not in any way biased!
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "Ah, so at least we know they are not in any way biased! roll" --- Oh heaven forbid. We wouldn't want to think that they had any kind of political agenda.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I have followed the American Center of Law & Justice for many years. They are doing a great service on several continents. Chief Counsel, Jay Sekulow is a brilliant attorney, an honest man who happens to be a Christian, an expert on religious liberties, freedom and democracy. He is a Supreme Court attorney who is defending laws which Obama breaks. I say nail him! There might be some bias there, but a little competition is good. I suppose Obama is un-bias? ... like us?
  
  http://aclj.org/jay-sekulow
  http://jaysekulow.com/
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Sekulow
  http://www.foxnews.com/archive/jay-sekulow/index.html
  
  Hope your holidays were nice!
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Oh yes, I fully understand - fighting for civil rights and religious freedom, as long as they are Conservative and Christian ..... totally unbiased, of course....like yourself, Suzie.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Its all good, Johnny. The hateful atheists have the "Freedom From Religion Foundation" so it all works out to be balanced. We cannot have balance without light and darkness, yin and yang. It works!
  
  You help me more than you can know!
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I am atheist in favour of free choice. Do you consider all atheists hateful?
  Many christian, many muslim people, are happy with freedom of choice....but extremists are the same whichever cloak they wear.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  In reference to those who / at "Freedom From Religion Foundation" only, I consider them hateful because they try to take away religious liberties from others. I follow the ACLJ and enjoy the victories, its better than Law and Order to me. I don't watch TV.
  
  I'm with you on free choice ... Free will!
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  it is not a religious liberty to display religious icons on government property. worship in your church and home as you see fit. religious icons on government property are against the constitution. like them or not, the "freedom from religion foundation" upholds the constitution. i don't really mind the ten commandments outside a courthouse. it's a historical reference for me. but i can see their point.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Then the very first thing they need to do is get the words "In The Year of Our Lord" removed from our Constitution.
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  i don't see that as anything other than a convention for keeping time. the founding fathers weren't, for the most part, religious.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  It is a "convention" based on the year of our Savior's birth.
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  possible year of birth of a person who possibly existed. and the gods pull the sun around the earth in a chariot.
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  So, since it's only appropriate for a minority, it could be called something else, like MB - Modern Beginning.....translated into a lingua franca.
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  AD doesn't bother me. neither does santa.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  There are always two sides to a coin or an argument. I have followed FFRF and the ACLJ for many years and the arguments they present in court. Its just another part of the big picture. I don't get emotionally involved with it.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Jesus said "...and he that hath no sword, let him sell his cloak and buy one." Luke 22:39. The Moslems & the Mormons are prepared with vast stores of arms. So is BATF, Homeland Security, the U.S. Postal Service, TSA, all law enforcement agencies and even the Department of Agriculture. Get ready!
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks, Sgt extremism.
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  Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Just doin' my job.
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "The hateful atheists have the "Freedom From Religion Foundation""
  
  "Hateful atheists"?? Really? It's probably more accurate to say that the Freedom From Religion Foundation is what protects us from those Hateful Christians that want to create a theocratic state here in the US.
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I thought that discussion with Johnny would call you out.
  Have a nice day, unless you have other plans!
  Happy New Year....
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  adagio4639posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  "Chief Counsel, Jay Sekulow is a brilliant attorney, an honest man who happens to be a Christian, an expert on religious liberties, freedom and democracy. " --- Yes I'm sure all of that's true, except being a lawyer who happens to be a Christian, is quite different from being the Chief Council of a Conservative Christian advocacy group. Barry Lynn is a lawyer as well and heads up Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. Now considering that our Constitution is a secular Constitution and outlines a secular government...who's views on that subject should I consider to be a more accurate reading of the Constitution and closer to defending religious liberty in this country; The guy that is advocating for a certain religious group, or the guy who holds the Constitution as a secular document?
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cathylynn99posted 8 years ago
obama is a christian eisenhower republican. he had to run as a democrat because the republican party has moved to the radical right. has been doing so since reagan and getting worse by the minute.
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TedWritesStuffposted 8 years ago
How terrifying that this country..with so many extremist views... has nuclear weapons..and every hillbilly is armed with a semi automatic...
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  colorfuloneposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Ted, nice to see your smile and to feel the freshness of some Aussie humor. The United-States has become the Divided-States in the past several years. Maybe its because of Climate Change? ... yeah, that works for terrorist attacks on Paris...so it should work for the state we're in too. President Obama promised to destroy terrorists by attacking Globe Warming too. He blamed the United States for Climate Change and said Climate Change helped create Muslim terror.
  
  I cannot make stuff like that up!
  
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  cathylynn99posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  climate change made syrian farmers give up no-longer-sustainable farming and move to cities where high unemployment caused unrest. unrest is a breeding ground for terrorism. don't mock what you don't understand.
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colorfuloneposted 8 years ago
Houston Muslim Charged With Lighting His Own Mosque On Fire
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism … ium=social

Of course he did. That's what all of the hatemongers do. They write racist things on dorm room doors about themselves, set churches and mosques on fire hoping to start some freaking race war! The media buys into their deceptions until they are found out. Do you think the media then report on the perp as much as the story, no.

CBS News: Advocacy groups believe there has been a spike in anti-Muslim incidents across the United States in recent weeks that can be linked to the mass shooting in California and the inflammatory rhetoric of Donald Trump and other Republican presidential candidates. And they say that Muslims are fearful the backlash could lead to further harassment and violence.

CNN and NBC were all over this with their bias BS.

Donald Trump said that running for president is like being at war.
I guess!
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