Biden hasn't won and will not!
States/territories with Democrats backing the defendant states:
California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, DC, Guam, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia and the US Virgin Islands.
So rightwingers, do you wanna dance?Not positive what you're saying - those states you list are asking the SCOTUS not to examine the constitutionality of the actions of the "offending" (alleged) states?
Why would they do that? Do Democrats not care that our Constitution is followed? Or at least they don't care as long as they end up on top?Democrats do care about the Constitution, they are asking about differing aspects; regarding the legal standing to file a suit of this nature by some states against another, the concept of States Rights and their relative sovereignty is also a part of the Constitution. Will the court open a bucket of worms allowing for such a precedent by interceding in this fashion?
Do you have faith that the SCOTUS will not uphold the Constitution in the matter? Will you be satisfied if they hear the case and rule to what they find appropriate?
I have no choice as they are the final arbiter, but they had better step lightly because we will all be watching......
I have to ask the same of you and "your" side?We are getting way ahead of ourselves, they may not hear the case. If they don't I am sure they will have good reason to back their decision
If they hear the case the world will be watching. I tend to think they will step away from it.
Now, those on the right, I think it will be once again four tedious years of all kind of uproars.You appear to be right - CBS reported tonight on the news that the SCOTUS has refused to hear the Texas case on a 7-2 vote.
Of course that's fake news. CBS is not to be trusted and liberal propaganda.
Yes, late to the party, due to be at a party... LOL
I would assume yes, we will be in for four years of crazy. I mean there certainly is enough going on in regards to Gramps to stir controversies. Once again I will repeat my sentiment. How the hell did any American vote for someone like Biden? Makes me sick to see, what I see as a deteriorating American society. This man has nothing to offer America, and as the Democrats stated four years ago --- Not my president.I have said right along that the people didn't vote Trump into office as much as they refused to vote another run-of-the-mill politician in.
I see Biden the same way; after 4 years of spreading hatred and divisiveness liberals and media succeeded in convincing a gullible public that the old way, with it's graft, fraud, cheating and all the rest, was what we really wanted.The vote was actually 9-0. I guess the entire Supreme Court is in on the fraud, too, eh?
I very much agree. you hit the nail on the head in my opinion. I certainly can say in 2016 I had had it! I was up to here with the Washinton run-of-mill BS coming out of Washington. Sick of watching it being continued. I voted for Trump's policies, his agenda, and the clear ways he offered to solve long time problems. His campaign for a better America, moving away from a Global agenda at this point in our history in my view was just what we needed. Biden IMO is a very run of the mill politician, he did so little in his years in Washington. He blended into the woodwork. (My view)
I must admit I was disappointed to see so many jump on board with the same old same old. And I am not sure it was the same old, but more just due to the propagated hate for Trump. I found much of what I had come to expect from presidential candidates when conducting a presidential run were set aside. I found Biden did not share much of his plan, policy-wise, yet he won? This totally blows my mind. This is very telling in my view =, and gives a picture of many American's mindsets So, yes I agree with your sentiment --- it appears many American's were gullible, perhaps attracted to the Same old... And blindly Ignoring all Trump has accomplished in his short time in office, for a man that offered little in the way of an agenda.I still have faith in Trump. Biden will erode all democracy.
I too will keep faith in Trump, and I am very grateful for his service. I found him to be a great problem solver, and he will leave the country a better place due to his accomplishments. I am disappointed we won't have answers to the alleged election fraud. Hopefully, Congress will have a look at the problem. I doubt that, but one can hope. I think we will be back to an administration much like Obama's --- all hidden behind door one, two, or three... We can keep the faith...
You clearly don't know what democracy is.
Yes, I fully agree due to all the swirling ALLIGATIONS about Joe, James, and Hunters dealing with Communist China and many multiple foreign nations --- he certainly COULD become a great threat to America and our democracy. It will be interesting to see what the FBI and DOJ find.
Gramps? On this we agree. People over 65 tend to be senile, as proved by many in this forum. Drooling, unable to think for themselves anymore. You hit the nail on the head, Granny.
Whew! I'm only 62. I still have three years. ;-)
At 65 I'm still thinking great for myself and others. There is nothing to prevent a person thinking big, except sickness of mind and body. Everyone stay healthly.
According to Oprah Winfrey and what she found out, one is considered to still be a kid in the Japanese culture until they're 52 years of age. In that event, I guess it would make someone in their sixties still to be a spring chicken in the Japanese culture.
While in my Wakirike(Okrika) culture at 52, your a small boy. But if you had lots of money via a trading empire, you're a big man. A woman died at 106 years this year. That's the manly age.
I was referring to the next four years and what they could turn into. The recent allegations that are facing Biden, as well as his cognitive skills. So, I can see you might have picked up on that due to me calling Biden Gramp's. Although I was more referring to investigations that may occur due to all the allegations. The next four years could certainly mirror what we witnessed in Trump"s four years.
To address your comment in regard to the term gramps. Loss of cognitive skills depends on the individual, and the term Gramps could be conceived as a term of endearment. I will admit In this case, it was not. I see nothing endearing about Joe Biden. And actually, with all the recent corruption allegations that are being reported about the Biden's, I will admit I was hard-pressed not to give him a very colorful crime-related label. But due to them being alligations, so far and being unproven, I held my tongue.
And as for your try to combine, and insult others that don't have your ideologies, it tells me so much about your mindset and thought prosses. Very showing...
Here is a link from Sky news that does offer a very fair look at Biden's cognitive state. You form your own opinion. I have formed mine on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-GoeF … =emb_titleThis form of thinking or logic IMO is evident in those that ascribe to "groupthink". So, many are in that club at this point. It's thought that those that do ascribe to groupthink need to have other opinions that agree with their own to feel comfortable about their own. In my view, I feel groupthink is a pseudo snuggly blanket.
Groupthink is a dangerous path to follow. It does not lead to self-determinism, nor allow each of us to think for ourselves. Emperor's New Clothes
Support for Trump is the epitome of groupthink and brainwashing. Facts simply don't matter. There's fraud because we say it is despite no proof and courts, with both Republican and Democrat appointees, throwing out cases for lack of evidence.
That would be your opinion, now would it not. Perhaps you should not offer your opinions as a fact. I never referenced my statements as facts. Note IMO, in my view... Maybe you just don't comprehend the words?
We have been down the fraud evidence road. Believe what you please.
Don't want to say "I told you so", but I did tell you so.
I could easily had told you about the end result of this fiasco without looking.
Trump tried in his court packing scheme to get a favorable ruling if the election was unfavorable to him and had to be decided by the courts, well he failed. Even though the court is now a right wing one, even these folks understood the ramifications of a ruling favoring Texas in regards to their suit.
So, what is next? Secession?
It is all good, I will provide sack cloth at discounted rates.I am over 65, I eat my Wheaties, and take my Geritol and make the Missus take hers too.
The wisdom that comes, recognizes the futility of life.
Credence's theory of relativity: The older one gets the faster time seems to pass.
You all remember, it seemed to take forever to get your driving learning permit or reach 18 or 21. Now when I turn around, 5 to 10 years have passed. You spend so many early years being dumb, but when finally become smart, your body starts to go.
"Keeping up with the Joneses", is on the side lines, while we struggle to keep things from sagging, falling down or out. Our society is based on the accumulation of things, which may be futile in itself, as you can't take it with you and it is just passed on to your progeny for them to squander. The only thing that really remains is your reputation, be it good or bad.
Death is the universal constant and in the face of that we are reminded of our relative insignificance through the vastness of time and space.Oh My --- and all this due to referring to Biden as Gramps. Some (not you) better get a thicker skin, because Joe will MOST LIKELY, PERHAPS, be called a lot worse than Gramp's.
I am a Baby Boomer so I naturally feel age is just a number. And I think as myself as, well I am not sharing... Because it would shock so many, and they would be very mad at me bragging about myself, and I would think I might even be called Granny right here in HP's. . Oh, that already happened. LOL
And by the way, I loved your comment. Made wonderful sense.Thanks,
I recognize Joe's age and the greater risk of mortality associated with it, but Trump is off of his rocker, like Emperor Nero. And,we do have a younger fill in Kamela Harris in case Joe can't last the distance.As an aside, I have been noticing that statements from the Biden camp almost always refer to his administration as "the Biden-Harris administration" rather than just "the Biden administration."
I like that.So, do I.
If he last his term, he will be the first chief executive holding the office that will be in his 80s. These times are most stressful, I hope that he will be well fortified for what is coming.He may be old but he is sane and competent. He also has a history of listening to other people who know more than he does. That alone will ensure he will be an improvement.
You may be right... Joe does have a poor health history. You would be correct VP Harris would step in.
Good though and make sense. And that's in tanden with a thread I post 3 months ago suggesting a woman president for America, in case both Trump and Biden fall out. It was suggested and(I think by w?) that Condoleeza Rice would be the best woman president. But she's not participating. All the same, the electoral college votes today in favour or against Trump or Biden is significant.
I am sure that Condoleeza Rice is more than qualified and would make an excellent President. It is just that the GOP has twisted so far right, I don't think that former Secy Rice could find a place within it anymore.
You're funny Cred, twisting things all around! There is a twisted party alright, but it's not the Republican Party!
Condoleeza Rice would definitely make a better president than Kamala Harris. She has more experience in government than Harris does.
Who asked you?
Can't be any more nonsensical than believing that Trump and his cronies were going to nullify the will of the majority of voters in this last election.
Isn't that what you had bought into?I must be slap happy because that one liner, coming from a woman still convinced that Trump was cheated out of over 5 million votes, is making me giggle.
The Japanese seem to have longevity down to a fine art.
I am always open to their secrets. living in Hawaii among many of them for 4 years, it is easy to see that they practice moderation as a principle. Their diets have been generally healthier than their western counterparts. They are much more attentive about obesity as I have never seen a "fat" japanese individual. Just like I have never seen one on Skid-row, a people while tending to be insular in nature, possesses discipline and self control, something that I always admired about them.
Yeah, I rarely have ever seen any overweight Japanese people, with the exception of Sumo wrestlers, of course. It's likely because they don't have genetically modified foods as we do here in the United States of America. What really catches my attention about them is that they have an aging population, but, at the same time, their birthrate has dropped drastically. Yet they don't seem to have a problem with the elderly falling into a vortex of poverty. I hear again and again on documentaries and news programs how the dropping birthrate here in the United States of America is going to cause great problems with social security benefits and other entitlement programs meant for the elderly because of the lack of young people paying into those programs. My response to that is if the Japanese has found a solution to this concern, it would seem that we Americans could find one too.
The Electoral College formally announced that Biden is the president as of December 14, 2020. Biden has won.
OMG, you almost opened the door to reality.
Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin and even New Mexico have all selected state electors who have voted for Donald Trump. House Delegate Mo Brooks is organizing a group of GOP legislators in the Congress to block the Congressional certification of the United States Electoral College's submissions that declare Joe Biden to be the president-elect. Vice President Mike Pence could also refuse to certify those same submissions and remand the matter to the House for a contingent election. If that happens, it is likely that President Trump will get a second term in office. In a nutshell, it isn't over until the fat lady sings.
Shadow, so true!! It's an interesting time.
Just wondering. Biden has 7 million votes more than Trump. Is it not clear that the majority of the people want Biden as a president? Or do you really think these 7 million votes were all a mistake?
Do you really think that from this 7 million at least 3.5 million votes should have belonged to Trump and so having a majority vote?
That's highly unrealistic.Probably the most unrealistic aspect about this election is evil and flagrant violation of our God given right to vote. Let's count the legal votes and use unbiased machines that cannot alter our votes. Let's have a fair playing field where there is no doubt about who is the elected president.
ah, you just missed the door to reality again..
God given....evil...that’s a peculiar set of chosen words..I didn't miss the door. I am stating a fact.
No, it’s not a fact. As there is no proof. Otherwise Trump would have won court cases months ago.
What you say is idle speculation. And its on the same level as the fact that there is intelligent life on Mars. It could be..there are some hints, some signs...possibilities..some scientists say there might be..But there is nothing proven, and at the moment a far fetched theory.The facts are there. I understand that it is hard for you to face the evil behind it.
Peter, all of this falls in line with this QAnon stuff, utter madness......
These people think that their accusations should suffice, as they should not be required to PROVE anythingYes, and it is a sad and dangerous thing too.
To many people don't give a damn about the truth. As long as you can make money with spreading rumours, conspiracies and accusations, then that's ok for a lot of YouTubers and other self obsessed people.At this point, many just hope to hear the 250 people that have stepped up with allegations of fraud. Some bringing with them ballot numbers that they obtained the night of the election that they feel will prove their allegations. To disrespect the whistleblowers would seem more dangerous than checking out their allegations. Suppression ould only lead to more suppression.
I for one care about the truth and the only way to find the truth is respecting all citizens that stepped up, investigate the allegations, if laws were broken, I expect the persons that committed voter fraud to be prosecuted. Otherwise, the fraud will continue and only get worse.
Please do not respond with "well the courts say there is no evidence. No evidence has been heard in a court of law as of yet. The majority of the cases were tossed out on procedural rulings... Latches, filing in the wrong court, filing too late, etc. Only two rulings claimed a lack of evidence.Sharlee, Conservatives/Republicans are free to pursue this down every rabbit hole available, but in the final analysis and end of the day, only irrefutable proof can change the present outcome.
Do you really believe that the theft of the votes that the Right constantly rails about at the magnitude levels implied is going to be ignored by all of our legal institutions due to mere technicalities?
Much Iike the Right wing birther stuff where a group of righties led by Trump would have us believe that a man elected as President was not a citizen and that Trump and these people knew above and beyond those official authorities tasked with that vetting process?"... but in the final analysis and end of the day, only irrefutable proof can change the present outcome."
Unfortunately there is nothing "irrefutable" when it comes to denying Trump the WH. Not to liberals - everything is denied if it will just keep Trump out of their hair. They would deny that the sun will rise if it would help.But, you too, Wilderness, are a part of the pure conjecture machine. Your lines of argument and debate are irrational.
How does one continue to support Trump for president without abandoning reality? The only way I see would be to simply say, "I want Trump to remain in office regardless of the truth, the rule of law or the Constitution."
If a Trumper just admitted that, I could at least respect that their thoughts are reality-based. This other nonsense is just embarrassing.
.Yes, The only acceptable outcome for the these folks is that Trump wins regardless of any evidence to the contrary, even something as trivial as a national election and a decisive win from an adversary.
That's kind of comical, don't you think, given that it is your side of the fence that refuses to actually investigate any claims of fraud? Fraud doesn't matter...as long as Democrats won, right?
Oh I get that! Anything that doesn't degrade Trump, Republicans and/or conservatives is irrational...to some of us anyway.
Why do you remain of the opinion that the entire universe is attacking Donald Trump? Is it maybe possible that this man and his campaign is on a wrong tack? Or do you think that Trump, just on the virtue of being Trump, automatically can do no wrong and that ANY criticism of him is unwarranted?
Unfortunately there is nothing "irrefutable" when it comes to denying Trump the WH. Not to liberals - everything is denied if it will just keep Trump out of their hair. They would deny that the sun will rise if it would help.
Is this not the same the other way around?
Is it not so that the conservatives would deny the sunset too if it would help?
I did not actually indicate that the level of fraud would change the election. And I am not sure how many times I can repeat, no evidence was heard in any of the cases. That is a fact. And the evidence has been ignored by legal institutions due to mere technicalities. Fact. One need only read court rulings. And yes I realize two tossed out Trump's case due to what the judges found lack of evidence. (No need to Google and offer
them up) make an attempt to look for a few rulings, I certainly am done with posting facts, for those that ignore them. And I am not about to lower my standards to just look at two rulings the media choose for me to see, a bit of good feed. This is precisely why so many are so poorly informed. This is far scarier than voter fraud IMO.
I noted you ignored the subject of my comment. The 250 Americans claim they witnessed voter fraud. It seems you just will not address that these are citizens that have the right to be heard, and have not been heard. It appears you are ignoring the true problem? The claims of fraud from 250 citizens. Are they all lying? Even the ones that wrote down-ballot numbers to prove their allegations?Those 250 witnesses? They are just more "deplorables", not worthy of listening to. Nor should further effort be made to find additional witnesses - they would just be more deplorables.
Yes, I know this would be anyone on the left's attitude about the citizens that want to be heard. But, we need to point out the uncomfortable truth. It appears to hit a root, due to all the deflecting. Yes, many of us have been labeled deplorable. However, is that not a better label than " poor deluded creatures"?
Did not mean to ignore the content of your comment, but before I will deny the votes of millions of people and turn the entire election around, you will need to find something of substance in the rabbit hole.
Conservatives fail to recognize that in this instance the city mouse triumphs over the country mouse.
These claims of fraud seem to be focused on urban counties and urban areas. Did you really think that Trump and the Republicans were going to prevail in Milwaukee, Atlanta, Detroit or Philadelphia? These areas have high numbers of minorities and generally they vote Democratic, would that be a surprise to anyone? Your state of Michigan was doing fine with Trump votes until numbers were polled from Wayne County, the sheer numbers residing there could be expected to change the nature of the race. There were no QAnon related conspiracies or mysteries associated with that.
That is the underlying resentment of conservatives and Republicans that, somehow, that many minorities voting against their candidates should not be permitted and must automatically be dismissed as fraudulent on its face. After all,the focus of these "suits" are the urban areas, is that just a coincidence?
You missed my point, investigate all that you want, but......Once again I never claimed that the fraud would turn the election. Just want the 250 citizens heard. I want anyone that committed fraud to be punished per our laws.
To answer your question on Milwaukee, Atlanta, Detroit, or Philadelphia and the fact that these areas have high numbers of minorities. "is the Pope Catholic". And at this point, I must warn you in no way do I want to sound like a racist, --- In my opinion, yes minorities vote Democrat, they have for decades. It never entered my mind this time would be different. In fact, just due to conversations I have had with you, I had no doubt that there was any chance of minorities changing up. Nor do I see that happening in the given future. In Wayne Count, we had more votes than we ever had in our history. It would well appear many voters have put their trust once again in the Dems. So, not sure Republican's were in any respect surprised at minorities voting for Demacrtic. Hate to tell you it's at this point a given.
I just hope to stop fraud, at any level. And I want whistleblowers to be respected and heard."I just hope to stop fraud, at any level. And I want whistleblowers to be respected and heard."
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On that we can agree...Then you support hearing these whistleblowers (not simply relating them to drunks and truck drivers), and hear them in a court of law as necessary?
It doesn't sound like it from your past posts: you demand incontrovertible proof, by your definition, before ever entering a courtroom.Yes, I support hearing the whistle blowers. I did not say these voices are to be silenced, I just said the level of proof is naturally going to be high before the outcome of this election can be changed.
Yes, incontrovertible proof is needed, I don't care what tools are used by adversaries to make their point regarding massive fraud occurring in the election, but at the end of the day.....
I am not in any respect thinking the election could be overturned or am I blinded to past or current voter fraud. Just hoping to finally deal with it.
I agree! Stop fraud on any level. Respect and let the whistle-blower be heard.
You are talking about a 7 million votes. Or let's say Trump needs another 3.6 million to get more votes than Biden and the mandate of the American people to become the president. Don't you think that a 3.6 million vote fraud is a bit unrealistic?
I have never made a claim that I felt the election results would be changed due to the fraud committed. In fact, I am sort of becoming tired of saying that. Did you read the comment. The subject is my concern that whistleblowers are not being heard.
" I for one care about the truth and the only way to find the truth is respecting all citizens that stepped up, investigate the allegations if laws were broken, I expect the persons that committed voter fraud to be prosecuted. Otherwise, the fraud will continue and only get worse."
My main beef is that we as a country are not addressing 250 people that claim they witnessed voter fraud. And if we make laws, they should be kept.
My concern has nothing to do with overturning the election unless for some reason the numbers supported that action. Which is very unlikely to happen.
Hopefully, I answered your question.So every election, anywhere, we should take seriously people who claim voter fraud without any substantive proof and even after the courts have ruled that it doesn't meet evidentiary standards?
Can you imagine how many people will start claiming fraud in future elections if we have no standard for what constitutes a credible claim?I believe these citizens stepped up with evidence of fraud, even documented it in many cases. The majority of court rulings mentioned nothing about evidence. They did not even have the evidence presented, due to the cases not being taken up by the court. You are referring to two cases where some of the affidavits were looked over by the TWO judges, and they found the evidence does not substitute enough to hear the cases. The majority of cases rulings can be found online.
I am not sure why you even think citizens would submit affidavits if they did not feel they witnessed fraud.
At any rate, we are going in circles. We have a different opinion in regards to the whistleblowers. And I just know more about the actual court rulings than you have been made aware of. So at this point, we will need to agree to disagree.
God given right to vote? Where's that in the Bible?
There's not a single shred of evidence that machines changed any votes.
Maybe if we could find some people who used actual evidence and fact to back up their opinions we could get somewhere.
Let's go save those kids from being sold into prostitution first. They're under that pizza restaurant in D.C.A fact?
Like Obama is a Muslim? Like he was not born in the U.S.?
A fact like COVID is a hoax? That people shouldn't wear masks?
A fact like there's a child sex trafficking ring under a D.C. pizzeria? A fact like Sandy Hook was fake?
A fact like the COVID vaccine will be used to implant us with microchips?
Republicans have a strange definition of "fact".And I have allegations that some of you are pedophiles. Should those allegations be heard? Of course not. Because, despite your innocence, the mere fact of having a public form where those allegations were aired would sully your sterling reputations.
No, what we do is present these allegations to a court first to see if they are valid. "I saw such and such..." is not a valid allegation.
As a result, the courts have uniformly rejected these cases.- PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago
0For those who keep saying they want the whistleblowers to be "heard." What do you propose to happen for them to be heard? Legal court actions and the resulting decisions are apparently not acceptable to you.
So, what next? Have they not also exhausted all legal avenues within the states in question?
So, what next? Are your Republican senators and representatives holding hearings? If yes, is that good enough? If not, why not?It's incumbent upon state governments to safeguard the electoral process and ensure that every voter’s right to cast a ballot is protected. It's up to the DOJ Criminal Division and the Department’s Attorney’s Office to investigate voted fraud due to our Federal voting laws.
The department’s Criminal Division oversees the enforcement of federal laws that criminalize certain forms of election fraud and vindicate the integrity of the federal election process.
The DOJ investigated Trump's complaint of voter fraud and felt there were insufficient crimes committed that would not have changed the outcome of the election. Barr did state they would be continuing to track down voter fraud allegations.
It was up to the DOJ to hear the whistleblowers, it is hard to ascertain if any of the whistleblowers were actually interviewed. I have watched one Senate hearing last Thursday. Not sure where this will go.
At this point looks like one can commit voter fraud and pretty much get away with it. I have not heard of any charges in regard to voter fraud in our presidential election. I don't expect to.Okay, but you didn't really answer my question. If a whistleblower makes an allegation of fraud to the state in which it occurred, and the state investigates and finds the allegations to be unfounded, hasn't that whistleblower been heard? You said above that you just want them to be heard. My question to you is what, exactly, would satisfy you that they have been heard?
At this point, we can pretty well say they won't be heard in any court or their state. Due to it not actually being responsible for prosecuting voter. The states just hand over any voter fraud allegations to the DOJ due to the alleged crime being a Federal crime.
I am satisfied the DOJ is still investigating their claims. My main argument was that many seem to just write these people off as people that can not be trusted. In some cases making derogatory statements in regards to their credentials, and even demeanor.
My complaint, I just want them to be heard, and not bashed for stepping up.
My particular criticism of their qualifications doesn't have as much to do with them personally - after all, criminals and other people can see things and their claims should be heard. Similarly, we should not attack rape victims for coming forward and use their personal history of how they dress against them.
My point was that, as a lawyer, one should be more careful about one's "star" witnesses and make sure they check out and don't show up to court drunk or don't have questionable stories, like when somebody says they were a military analyst but were never a military analyst. This is a simple thing to check up on.Again --you may have missed this? He was an expert witness. He is very well qualified in his field. NOt sure why you continue to insult Col Waldron.
Col. Philip Waldron (US Army-Retired) served over 30 years as a U.S. Military Intelligence Officer specializing in cybersecurity-focused on election manipulation. Waldron is considered an expert on automated voting machines, who, as part of his training and experience, knows exactly how voting machines can be corrupted.
Cybersecurity is the practice of protecting systems, networks, and programs from digital attacks. These cyberattacks are usually aimed at accessing, changing, or destroying sensitive information; extorting money from users; or interrupting normal business processes.
I have no way of knowing if Mellissa Carone Michigan whistleblower was drunk.Sharlee? I read your article titled "Please Say It Ain't So Joe Biden." I liked it. It was both informative and interesting, and probably a lot of people who voted for Joe Biden would not have done so if they had read your article before the 2020 American presidential election.
Thank you for taking the time to check out my article, I appreciate your view. I will say putting that article was eye-opening. There was tons of information I had to leave out due to the article becoming so lengthy. I found his history and his personal character pretty unsettling, to put it mildly. Still baffled at his win.
I visit the article you mentioned and found it interesting and informative. It answered certain questions my mind is searching about the USA November presidential election. We will only who occupy the White House come January 20. Happy Trump make it.
For the last time, I am not referring to Col. Waldron. I'm referring to Spyder.
- PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago0
This was shared on Facebook by the chair of the county Republicans in my county. She is a friend of mine. We have worked side by side in charitable organizations in our community. She is a kind woman, but I am wondering if she has a grasp on reality when it comes to Trump.
50+ rejected cases. Presented cases did not meet evidentiary standards. Lesson = conspiracy theories don't hold up in court. In fact, they don't even make it to court.
Like I said two out of actually more than 50 case rulings were due to procedural problems. You grabbed on to the two the media pushed their lack of evidence agenda Facts are out there one only needs to dig for them. Local papers are the best places to look for court rulings.. Worked I would say LOL
- PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago0
Trump is wanting to use the military to prevent Biden from being sworn in as the next president.n
Who is okay with this?Trump has been denying this rumor. He called it fake news. Not even sure he legally has the power to do this. As a rule, I thought declaring martial law is used to control violence without congressional approval.
Are you sure he is wanting to use the military to prevent Biden from being sworn in? Might be a media hype?
I would not be down with the Trump military to prevent Biden from being sworn in as the next president. Now if there is violence on that day due to disgruntled citizens, I would hope he would to stop the violence immediately. We can't continue to have violence for any reason. Protests are suitable.It is obvious that Trump needs to take control of the situation. Military action is not what he has in mind.
Of course you do. You would be jumping for joy if Trump used The Insurrection Act to overturn the election.
The fact that Michael Flynn and Sidney Powell were even in the Oval Office is a sign of craziness. I'm surprised they didn't have a meeting with Hugo Chavez's corpse. Those two are insane and every report out there says they discussed imposing Martial Law. That a POTUS would even entertain such a thing is so troubling, it goes beyond words.The story is being widely spread. It appears as if Trump had a WH meeting with several of his law team, as well as Sydney Powell and Gen Michael Fylnn. I don't think anyone has a clear factual story on what was discussed. I will agree, I would doubt that President Trump intends to call in the military to prevent Biden from moving into the White House.
He's also the only one in the world blaming China for the Russian computer hack.
What basis do we have to believe anything Donald Trumps says?In regard to the hacking problem, Pompeo gave a statement that it was Russia. Trump gave a sarcastic statement. "Maybe it's China." Maybe is not --- it was China. He was baiting. And in my opinion, he has China on his mind for several reasons and is well pissed off at them. At any rate, I understand you becoming discussed with his statement. It was so uncalled for. He caused once again a media buzz. One none of us need at this point with all that is going on in the country and the world.
You believe Donald Trump? Oh, of course you do.
I don't think, or at least I think it is unkikrly, that he will impose martial.law. But I have little doubt he would if he thought he could get away with it. He's that crazy.More and more information about voter fraud is surfacing. You cannot deny that.
So, what does he have in mind, Kenna? You like to pop im here with mysterious one-liners implying Trump will remain in office yet he fails every step of the way.
Tell us what is next for your glorious leader.So, what's next, Kenna? Is it time to bring out the super glue? You'll need a lot to keep Trump's butt in that chair.
I suggest you look for yourself because what is true for you is true for you. Otherwise, I leave data that is factual and you will still see as you wish. It is also called idee fixe.
Believe him about what? As I said I am not sure any of these rumors went down. This morning it looked like CNN have backpedaled on the story, not mentioning the Martial law bit. I have not heard Trump or anyone close to him state he is considering declaring martial law.
I think he might have declared martial law if it was legal, it would appear he feels the election was fraudulent. He has as of yet not proved his allegations. So, I would guess he will just leave without any fuss. Not sure what many of his supporters might do?Here is time, place, form, and event of voter fraud, all documented. https://centipedenation.com/transmissio … he-public/
One can find documentation on the internet that Tom Cruise is an alien. That doesn't make it true.
The fact that Smartmatic is mentioned at all undermines this entire document. Smartmatic was only used in one county in the US, with election results being very similar to those in the 2016 election.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/11/basel … y-company/
To my mind all this looks fiction which is good for the story book but I don't think Trump is going to do anything like this. That I suppose should be the bottom line
Media is withholding important information.
I happen to watch an episode of Sid Roth's "Supernatural." His guest had a vision that suggested the election result would be reversed. Interesting. We shall see.
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