Should we Pay for Sandra Fluke's Slutty Behavior?
- Gusserposted 13 years ago
0Wow, if you have to pay women to have sex with you, no wonder you're so bitter! Lemme guess, you're a "nice guy," too.
If you want to get laid, it's useful to remember that women do not owe you sex and do not generally consider sleeping with misogynists to be worth the trouble. Try improving your attitude towards women instead of blaming us for your unhappiness. I know personal responsibility is a hard concept for straight white guys to grasp after so many centuries having the world handed to them on a platter, but if you try real hard I'm sure you can figure it out.
Good question!
What is/was this anyway?
Hopefully we've heard the last of it.
Onward to the next sound and fury signifying nothing.
He's a total slut. But because he's a multimillionaire, he can pay for his own viagra, OxyContin, and other "marital aids."
But, really, his message is very simple: No one should have access to medicine that the ultra-religious might find in any way objectionable unless you're a radio shock jock that earns millions denigrating others.
- PrettyPantherposted 13 years ago0
Okay, so it look like the majority are for the slutty behavior. And that's expected because most of the forum posters are liberals, obviously.
I do think that Sandra Fluck and her Georgetown law school sisters are exhibiting slutty behavior. Basically because she wants her sexual activity paid for by others. It is understood that she and her fellow students are paying the premium for the health insurance. However she wants contraceptives to be covered which will result in premiums going up for all who want to buy insurance. That's asking other people to pay for their decision to engage in sexual behavior and asking student to increase their financial burden. That's what's slutty. And if you're asking people to cough up additional dollars to make your sexcapade possible, then be prepared for people to discuss it and judge you. Helloooooo!
If you regard access to contraceptives a right, it must be something new because this right didn't exist prior to The Pill. But let's say it is a right ( ), well rights come with responsibilities don't they? So isn't it your responsibility to financially pay for your right? I have a right to free speech, I pay for my own signs, I don't force others to pay for it. Just as each person has a responsibility to do their own family planning, just because it makes it easier to do it with contraceptives doesn't exempt you from paying for it. And if you want the government to require others to pay for it, which is what that hearing is about, then you are essentially letting the government have a decision in your family planning. So do you want the gov't to be involved with your womb decisions or not? It is inconsistent to be pro choice and shrilly cry that the government shouldn't prevent you from having an abortion but to let the government force others to pay for your contraception.
It is also inconsistent that insurance must include contraceptives when it is not a must to buy insurance (not yet anyway). So now you are forcing a business to include something in a package of services. Why not include a dildo while you're at it? I'm sure Fluck and her fellow activists can think up an excuse for a dildo having some sort of therapeutic purpose for a minority of people.
Oh, and the word for the weekend was atavistic. Atavistic this, atavistic that, atavistic everywhere. So learn the new word: ATAVISTIC.Welcome to the club. I'm sure there isn't a man or woman alive or dead that was ever completely and totally satisfied with seeing where their tax dollars were spent.
Of course, if you're so disturbed by this, you should lobby to have maternity leave removed, as well. I think sex has something to do with that, too.
There, there, do you feel better now?
How like a liberal to call other people names because of a different opinion. I thought libs said only conservatives did that.
Yes, the word for the week is atavistic, as in the original poster's atavistic attitude toward women -- definitely a throwback to at least Puritan times when men owned women as chattel in the US and both men and women were hostile to human pleasure -- on the part of women anyway. I am a bit shocked that an educated woman in today's society would consider a young woman a "slut" for wanting to make use of the available tools at society's disposal that encompass the "responsibility" of reproduction. More to the point, ALL women should applaud the decision that assists women everywhere to throw off the shackles of poverty that unwed birth brings to both women and children - and the additional burden that it brings to society.
These women are our future. They are the best and the brightest, the ones with ambitions, who are not afraid to push ahead and help to break that glass ceiling for womankind in what is still essentially a man's world. These are the women that we want our own girl children to emulate and look to as role models, instead of looking to Hollywood and the Britney Spears of the world or the emaciated young women strolling down the runways. We need positive role models and these women provide it. Without words, these women say "education and responsibility are the way to go, young girls of America. Look at me! I am educated, I am responsible! I depend on myself, not on a man! I can support my FUTURE family because of the responsible decisions I make today!"
Yet, there are WOMEN(?) out there who do not applaud that decision and point their children toward these positive role models. Instead, these young impressionable girls hear that responsible action for birth control makes any woman, no matter how bright, how educated, a SLUT.
At this point, whether the tools of responsibility are paid for collectively through insurance is not even relevant. It is the attitude of men and women who DARE to yell "SLUT." Unless you are chaste and virginal, you have no right...
...and yes, that brings us atavistically back 300 years, so you are correct in one thing: atavistic is definitely the word of the week. I believe also that the sub-word should be HYPOCRITICAL as you wrote a hub highlighting the horrific abuse of Muslim women who, if a man LOOKS AT THEM, are considered sluts, who, if they are raped, are considered sluts. It is no different than the attitude that we are seeing from anyone who calls a responsible young educated woman in her twenties a SLUT. Both are blatant abuse. Either you agree that it is okay that men treat women the way they do in Muslim countries (and even here in the US on a daily basis) or you agree that all humankind, both men and women, have the same basic drives and deserve the same respect when they follow those instincts as an adult. Otherwise, you continue to promote and condone the abuse of women the world over for being "sexual objects." It cannot be both ways.Well said, Connie.
BTW, I feel sorry that there is a hubber here whose name is identical to yours except for three letters.
Actally, they are three quite telling letters.
A-S-S.
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