Do you believe non-religious people, who lead a good life, are still going to he

Jump to Last Post 51-100 of 130 discussions (1268 posts)
  1. profile image0
    gsmith03posted 12 years ago

    I was raised Christian, believing that the only way to Heaven was to accept Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior.  I believed it wholeheartedly for 23 years and even convinced other people to believe it as well.  But I started to have questions - including this very one - and I eventually came to the point where I no longer believed Christianity.  Whether there is a Heaven or Hell I do not know.  Whether there is a God I do not know.  But I will tell you this:  the Bible says our lives are as a vapor in the wind compared to eternity.  I have a hard time believing that anything we do in such a miniscule, finite amount of time could possibly merit eternal, infinite torment.  Perhaps I will die and be proven wrong, but I have to use the brain that God (if He/She/It exists) gave me to the best of my ability.

    1. M. T. Dremer profile image85
      M. T. Dremerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well said. Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

    2. celafoe profile image54
      celafoeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I am sorry you are lost,  can I help you understand?

    3. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      gsmith03, I love your response and it proves beyond doubt that you are a real seeker of truth like Siddharth who became Buddha (enlightened being ). Even when we eat fruits and vegetables, we eat the good portion of them.don't we ?

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Poor gsmith & others!  So MANY "lost!"  Using that "brain" (Prov3:5) & not obeying HIS "commandments"(Jn14:15)! 
      IF ppl would only OBEY that would receive HELP!
      SAD!

  2. profile image51
    Philter12posted 12 years ago

    I was raised in Christianity and as a kid I just believed that everything the bible said was tru.Now as an adult I find it difficult to just blindly believe words written by men. I believe the Bible is a holy book but the belief in eternal punishment for not believing a certain way is just... well I can't wrap my heart around it. The bible says the wages of sin is death. The bible also says whosoever believes in Jesus gets eternal life. How can the wages of sin be death if it is eternal torment? Eternal torment requires eternal life. Really we all die anyway.. the first death. Then those who are without sin are ressurected from the dead into eternal life when Jesus comes again. The idea/belief that anyone deserves eternal punishment doesn't make sense. What's the point of it? You only live ~80 years in sin so why this eternal torment to pay for it? Jesus paid the price for me by dying for me.. not suffering for eternity for me. See how that makes sense? I deserved death and Jesus died in my place. Final statement:: No one deserves  eternal punishment.

    1. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Philter 12, we just have to go for essence of everything. As you need fruit, you do not uproot whole tree so you must pick up what is appropriate to your common sense and conscience. I feel enchanted to read your comment. God bless you.

  3. profile image53
    SarahMH33posted 12 years ago

    Well, I have also asked my father this question (he is a very devout Christian),  and in some form or another I have actually witnessed miracles. Anyway, I believe from the bottom of my heart that just being a good person is not enough. You have to actually be saved and born again. I do not want to sound like a hypocrite and I am not telling you what to do, because frankly I am not a Christian myself, but I do believe there is a higher power out there. One day we will all find out what the afterlife is.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      SAD but TRUE!

  4. Jennifer Bart profile image60
    Jennifer Bartposted 12 years ago

    No I don't not believe in hell. I do believe that god is a higher power and there will be consequences for our actions but I don't see my god sending me to hell as the god of which I know and love is a loving god and wont torture me in a lake of burning fire in my opinion hell is separation from god not some awful place where you go to be tortured for the rest of eternity.

    1. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Jennifer, do you think words such as you speak are yours ? No, dear, such a language is being spoken by you because God loves it the most. That is why, speaking nice, acting good and thinking sublime is like residing in Heaven and reverse is Hell.

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ivan Mr 15:38 And the curtain of the sanctuary was torn in two from top to bottom.
      Mr 15:39  he said: “Certainly this man was God’s Son
      Why do your books erase all these important  events and say Jesus was just a common person . because

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      JESUS "IS" GOD but presented HIMSELF in the "GLORY" of "man" to relate to unspiritual people ("man") who w/o Holy Spirit; can't "see" (Matt13:10-13)!
      When did you receive baptism of the Holy Spirit K&T?

  5. karwaw profile image59
    karwawposted 12 years ago

    We are all children of GOD, no matter by what name you call him.  Once your course is run, you will return to the Father's realm and be judged by the intentions of your heart, mind, and soul while here on earth.  Survival at that point will be determined by the individual.  Not by earthly religious affiliation or non affiliation. The Universal Father desires that non of his children shall parish.  If there is but a small glimmer of faith, the individual is saved by that faith.

    1. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Karwaw, marvelous ! I have no words to describe your remarkable wisdom. My dear, this is the real learning and is very rare, only a few blessed acquire such lofty wisdom. God has given you His real grace in the form of essence you have grasped.

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Kar:  Only "by faith" r we saved after studying HIS WORD & Holy Spirit reveals TRUTH or Gal 1:6-9!  1 can't say "I have faith in GOD & saved" or no need for Scriptures!

  6. gmwilliams profile image85
    gmwilliamsposted 12 years ago

    Many religionists contend such an ideology.  However, if a person lives a good life, helping and being kind to others and not hurting any soul, he/she will go to heaven and/or a higher plane when he/she dies, regardless of whether he/she is religious or not.   I would like to add that if a person lives a good and ethical life, he/she is religious whether he/she acknowledge it or not.   

    Conversely, religionists who judge and are prejudiced against others, believe that they will be going to heaven or a higher plane because of adherence to some religious doctrine or dogma.  Not necessarily the case.  I contend that people attract who they actually are.  Many religionists, by virtue of their actions and deeds, will NOT be going to when they claim they will be going.  In fact, many of them will be QUITE SURPRISED  at where they will end up!

    1. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      gmwilliams , buddy, you are on a divine path but avoid adverse comments on people having different bent of mind, ask God to grant all His embrace of eternal love. We all deserve His grace being His offsprings in spite of our different views about Him

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: Cant ANSWER (I Pet 3:15) when u were baptized with the HOLY SPIRIT (Jn10:27;Matt3:11)?
      U listen to "man" & have FAILED to be baptized w/HOLY SPIRIT & NOT "BORN AGAIN" (Jn3:7)!
      If not, "man's INTERPRETATION" of Scripture which is NOTH

  7. El Solo Lobo profile image61
    El Solo Loboposted 12 years ago

    No one is going anywhere when they die. People should really get a grip on what "dead" means...it does not mean living in some other place, realm, condition, state, etc. It means dead.  "I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it." -- Mark Twain.

    1. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      El Solo Lobo, sleep is like death but how happy we feel in our sleep that we don't want to be disturbed. In sleep we are simply as we are as pure self alone devoid of all the conditionings imposed on us when awake. So like sleep, death is also sweet.

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Temy: Flesh dies but spirit lives FOREVER!  Mark Twain knows "inconvenience" now!

      Harish: Blv that & you'll be as Mark Twain! If "death is also sweet," why aren't we ALL n hurry to get there?

    3. MarySEW profile image73
      MarySEWposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting though, that Mark Twain would include the Lucifer in his story if that were the case. Why acknowledge that bit of biblical history if supposedly atheistic?

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      MISFIT:  My daughter said there was a woman on internet who lost souls teaching wrong doctrine & had to give in account for misleading peeps!
      Something in my spirit says it's you!
      I pray! 
      Don't tell me again "GOD dwells in unholy places!"
      Blasp

  8. Harishprasad profile image72
    Harishprasadposted 11 years ago

    M T Dremer, until I went through a lot of stuff on this website, I was sure of the intelligence of the westerners. When I see questions like this one, it baffles me no end. You would not believe me that a Hindu religious text named Garuda Purana mentions about plight of the people going to hell and the picture described is very horrible. Yet most of the Hindus while adhering  all the funeral rites as mentioned in the said religious text do not  pay much attention to the concept of hell mentioned in that  sacred text. Why ? It is because in their wisdom, they are sure  that this was a system evolved by the ancient people to maintain  a strict system of moral order in the society as kings lacked the  required force and resources to watch the errant behavior of the  rogue elements. You will be surprised to know that no Hindu is  afraid of the so called Hell, nonetheless, fear of God and devotion  to God is much more in the minds of the people. Ironically,  people talk more about heaven than hell. It is due to the fact that  great sages like Vashisht, Astavakra, Adi Shankracharya,  Gautama Budha, Raman Maharshi, RAMKRISHNA PARAMHANS  and so on attained the real perfection and they described about  the essence of God truly and through their enlightened words  removed the  dust from the eyes of the common people. It is due to the guidance of these enlightened beings that common Hindus are free thinkers. Concepts like hell and heaven do not bother them at all. We see God in a very different perspective and everyone is free to assume God as personal or formless ( as pure Brahman) and there is not the least force on anyone. Also, sages have told ages ago that one cannot attain the real essence by merely reading lacs of sacred books, pranayamas ( breath control) and chanting GOD's name constantly like a parrot. However one can attain it by meditating on God through intellect and understanding the essence of our whole existence that is called Self or Spirit or Atman (Soul). One can attain it when one is able to know himself entirely different from body as a pure Soul and this is the purpose of our whole existence that is to know our Self or Spirit or Soul. Now what is the use of concepts of Hell and Heaven in all this. Such concepts are meant for the less evolved and the persons who is hell bent on evolving as a person to differentiate between body and Soul is not scared at all. Such a person roams free without any hindrances whatsoever. This way we worship God and wish to meet Him.

    1. M. T. Dremer profile image85
      M. T. Dremerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The purpose of this question was to outline a flaw in religious moral code. Condemning good people indicates a societal problem that affects all of us. Recognizing that problem is the first step towards correcting it.

    2. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, Sir. Your intention is noble and I sincerely wish more and more people understand it for the sake of a decent way of following a religion. Wish you all the best. Thanks for your nice response.

    3. fpherj48 profile image61
      fpherj48posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Harish..You have shared a beautiful explanation of what followers of the Hindu religion believe & how they live their lives accordingly. This is a more "enlightened" view to the soul. Sadly, for others...blind adherence causes more harm than good

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: If you have not been BAPTIZED with the HOLY SPIRIT; you are a man-made LIAR with man-made interpretations because your "knowledge" is not of GOD but of the world (man)!

  9. Maricarmjolo profile image60
    Maricarmjoloposted 11 years ago

    The bible says, It is by faith that you have been saved. I believe that  if you do not have faith in Jesus, then you will not be saved.

  10. profile image49
    VickyLuv98posted 11 years ago

    yes, i do because the only way to heaven is by accepting Jesus Christ.  We are taught that you need to be baptized and to have Jesus Christ as your Savior.  Sadly if that person is non religious or doesn't believe , but lives a righteous life he will still go to hell.

    1. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So bizarre is your vision of heaven and hell. Could you please bring a quote saying like," if a person is non religious or doesn't believe but lives a righteous life he/she will still go to hell". Either interpretation is wrong or book is not learnt.

    2. profile image0
      SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      How can a person live a righteous life Harisphrad?

    3. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Sirdent, thanks for asking such a question. Please read my response to the main question. As for me, I place the God( God of all beings, not only humans) first place and treat every being as my own soul. Thus I live a righteous life and revere all.

    4. profile image0
      SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Harishprasad, have you ever in your life told a lie?

    5. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Sirdent, thanks for spelling my name correct. As for lies, yes, so many times, I can't remember the count. However I am accountable to God for them all. It is nice for me that you ask question after question, you really care for me in knowing God.

    6. profile image0
      SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Since you admit that you had told many lies, how can you call yourself righteous, Harishprasad?

    7. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Sirdent, you are right, calling myself righteous is ignorance. I am indebted to you for pointing out my ignorance. Thank you very much for a penetrative response. God bless you.

    8. profile image0
      SirDentposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Harishprasad, now that you realize you are not righteous, how do you suppose one can approach God?

    9. Harishprasad profile image72
      Harishprasadposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I am eager to know that from you, may be you are not convinced with my answer to the main question and think that something is lacking in my whole approach to God. You being an highly accomplished person can be helpful to me and I am ready to learn.

    10. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Harish: EVERYTHING 1 needs to know re: God & salvation is in Bible! 2 Pet 1:3) II Chron 7:14 is start!  Gal 1:6-9 is road to salvation!

  11. Roy Savage profile image60
    Roy Savageposted 11 years ago

    Depends upon your beliefs. Every religion has a "after-life".  Some believe that you go to Hell or Heaven.  Some believe in reincarnation.  Others, such as myself, believe that there are 2 possibilities.  You either go to Valhalla and live amongst the Gods and your ancestors or you go to another plane of existence, where those who do bad or break oaths go.  This place is ruled by, Hel, a goddess and daughter of Loki.
    But you have to find your own path my friend.  Find your own faith and never ever let others tell you that you are going to hell.  No one, to my knowledge, has ever been there and back, with definitive evidence and said....."This is the truth and only the Truth!"  My recommendation is to research different beliefs both Religious and Spiritual.  Eventually you will find your own path and belief.  One that you truly connect to.  But, stay clear of anyone that says you have to believe in their belief and you have to do what their belief says......BULLSHIT!

    1. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If so many different races and beliefs - religious and otherwise - exist; God obviously ADORES diversity and thrives in it. 'Scaring' people into believing in a doctrine is done by people in power to control & manipulate the masses. Yeah, BULLSH*

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Do u not know Scripture?  READ II Kgs 17:29-41!  Does he "ADORE" adversity? 
      You have no "wisdom" of GOD MISFIT!  Who wouldn't fear One whose thunderstorm has enough electricity to light up NY for a year?  One thunderstorm! 
      BULLSH**?

    3. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I don't have a problem believing that God is enough energy to light up the entire world BEYOND NY City. It is your force-fed 'belief' that people NEED to 'believe in' Jesus for salvation that is bs. Nothing but multiple, distorted pagan lies.

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      JESUS told me to tell u "But if I do, though ye believe me not, BELIEVE THE WORKS: that ye may know, & BELIEVE, that the Father is in ME, & I in HIM"(Jn10:38)! Once we "CONNECT," we don't have to worry about 'save' or 'hell' for it's "IRRELEV

    5. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Saying Jesus told you to tell me whatever is not going to work, Norine. You've got every Christian witnessing trick down pat, don't you? Just DON'T THINK! Hmmm... Where DID that Prayer of Mithras come from & WHY is Imperial Cult so similar? Woops

    6. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Listen girl I didn't go to school to learn this! If it's "down pat" I give GOD the GLORY! 
      Again, "I BELIEVE" ("lead & guide"), have exp'd & therein lies the diff! Who cares about "prayer" man made up after holding back TRUTH? U're a FOOL to

    7. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not going to get into a tit for tat about who has the most spiritual experience. I didn't go to school to learn this stuff, either & neither did most other Christians who have discovered it. It is your ignorance that accuses me of lying.

    8. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It is your "ignorance" that accuses GOD of LYING when HE SAID *HE* would "lead & guide us into ALL truth!" 
      What's worst?  Me BELIEVING GOD or you believing *man?*
      That shows whose IGNORANT!

    9. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I do NOT accuse God of LYING, Norine - I accuse your STUPID, brainwashing book! FYI, for anyone who is listening: THIS is my BIGGEST PROBLEM with dogmatics, they have absolutely NO RESPECT for God within us ALL who needs NO propaganda to exist!

    10. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      U went to "school" (Researched man) to learn!
      The Book is our instruction on how to "RECONNECT" to THE SPIRIT & if you call THE SPIRIT "stupid book," you blaspheme! 
      *HE* SAID HIS "WORD will not come back VOID" & U deny *HE* will "lead &

  12. Dave Wright profile image69
    Dave Wrightposted 11 years ago

    If you don't believe in the Bible, then what is the point of the question?

    The Holy Bible is pretty clear that the only way to get to Heaven is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and follow Him and His Word.  Read John 3:16.

    However, if you don't have faith, and don't believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God, then it is just a book written a very long time ago that talks about a place called Heaven and Hell.  Do those places even exist?  If they do, then those parts of the Bible must be true...  and if they are, why wouldn't you follow the road map that was laid out in the rest of the Bible?

    The answer is no.  Non-Religious people who lead a good life, may be good people, but they have not placed accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Savior, do not follow his word, and have sinned, and will fall short of the Glory of God.

    Jesus didn't die on the cross to make good people better.  He came to save all who accepted Him and followed His teachings.  If you can't even accept that premise, then why even accept the premise that Hell is even a real place?

    1. M. T. Dremer profile image85
      M. T. Dremerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The purpose of the question was to highlight the backwards morality of religion. Condemning good people to eternal torment doesn't sound like something a peaceful god would want.

    2. gmwilliams profile image85
      gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Good question, MT, I totally agree with you.

    3. Dave Wright profile image69
      Dave Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Religion isn't about morality.  It is about worshiping a God you believe in and following His teachings.

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      MT: "..backwards MORALITY of religion?"  GOD is not moral, but "JUST"=diff! Did ur mom's punishment "SEEM" moral? NO! But it was JUST!  So it is w/GOD!  Who told u HE was "peaceful?"  HE SAID "Do not SUPPOSE..." Matt 10:34!

  13. profile image49
    see-elposted 11 years ago

    Belief or non-belief in God does not describe our character as a human being. It is, at best, an emotional or intellectual decision. What defines our human character is how we act toward others and what we do have a positive impact on our community. If there is a God, and I deeply believe there is, He needs nothing from us; whether it be praise, prayer, or commitment. What I believe He wants is partnership in helping to make the human experience a better one for everyone. If there is a day on which we have to account for our actions, and I sincerely hope there is, then what I believe will be important will be how we lived our lives and not what we believed.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      MISFIT:  Releasing HALF TRUTH is our "TEST" to see if we've "WAITED" for HIS HELP or we will run around like you're doing; "researching" & others who are doing trying to "figure out" if evolution or creation!
      If we "WAIT" HE "reveals"which is TRU

  14. profile image52
    ijllandryposted 11 years ago

    The way to Heaven
        Jesus is the only way to get to heaven.  He declared this in John 14:6 when He said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the father but by me.”  Many people would object to this claim, holding the belief that there is more than one way to get to heaven.  They assert that Christians are “narrow-minded” for believing that blind faith in one savior can allow one into heaven.  Are Christians actually narrow-minded for believing this?
        Many people today hold the belief that good works, or a lack of bad deeds will be enough to get one into heaven.  If one’s good works outweigh one’s bad works, God will overlook the bad and count the good.  How could a loving God condemn His creations to eternal punishment?  The rebuttal to this type of thinking lies in God’s Word. 
        It should be noted that man created this problem with sin to begin with.  Genesis 2-3 clearly outlines the original sin.  It was an informed choice to disobey God.  Meaning, man knew that his actions against God’s law were disobedient.  Man knew that if he disobeyed God, “you [man and woman] will surely die.” (Genesis 2:17) 
        What if one does more good works than bad?  God can surely overlook one’s sins.  This cannot be the case.  Romans 3:23 says, “For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.”  “The wages of [our] sin [even one] is death,” Romans 6:23.  God can’t allow a sinful human being into heaven without them paying the price, which is death and an eternity in hell.  One’s good deeds cannot outweigh one’s bad.
        Jesus is the only way to salvation because He did not sin, at all.  He kept the law in every point.  He was both God and man.  Therefore He was a fitting sacrifice, or payment of the wages of our sin.  He was punished; He took our sin upon Himself in order to provide a way for us to be allowed into heaven.  One must accept this free gift though, in order to be allowed into heaven.  Those who don’t, deserve to be condemned to eternity in hell, they made the choice to reject this free gift, “The doors of Hell are locked on the inside.” C.S. Lewis The Problem of Pain  Therefore, accept this free gift, it is the only way to come to the Father, through Jesus Christ!

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Why  "cherry pick" Scriptures?  Rm 3:23-25 says "For all "HAVE" sinned..." or did in past (not now) until Christ who's blood has "redeemed us" from sin (v 24) "being JUSTIFIED," (v25) "PAST!"

      U thk Holy Spirit leaving or leading?2 Cor 3:18?

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine  I remember  not long ago you got so offended when people deleted your name from their QA posts, you take pride in your name ,why would you think less of Jehovah’s  name . Jesus  says he has made his Father’s  name known.(John 17:26)

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't "get offended when they deleted *my* name, but when they deleted THE WORD OF GOD which shows NO RESPECT for HIM! You take "pride" in *your* name; I'm NOTHING but a servant for CHRIST! GOD KNOWS who HE IS - EVERYTHING! Why u not under NC?

  15. Freeway Flyer profile image69
    Freeway Flyerposted 11 years ago

    I find the concept of hell, as it seems to be generally understood, to be ridiculous. I find it crazy that a supposedly loving and righteous God could condemn anyone to eternal loneliness and/or suffering. People who believe in this idea have either been indoctrinated to the point of no longer being able to be reasonable about religion or have not truly pondered what the concept of eternity really means.

    I also find it ludicrous that the afterlife is either one of two extremes: eternal paradise or eternal torment. This is not consistent with the complex world in which we live. People need to grow up and stop believing in fairy tales.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Did Jesus say HE was "religious?" 
      According to Bible "pure Religion" is "WORK" (Jm 2:27)!
      The Holy Spirit "WORKS" under the New Covenant & is why Jesus "HATES" religion!

    2. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T, you'd be surprised at what I've learned in 40 yrs. For instance, did you know that after Adam was banished from the garden of eden he committed suicide? or that Eve was not Adams 1st "companion" in the garden? or that Noahs' youngest was gay

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ivan: When were you BAPTIZED with the HOLY SPIRIT?  If you rely on what "man" has written & have not acquired THE COMMUNICATION LINE TO GOD (aka HOLY SPIRIT) you & your man-made "knowledge" is a LIE!

    4. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Over the pieces of the game ,because he knows he going to lose. You judge things by human opinion  not by the issues of spiritual  matters, satan has called all human unfaithful, deserving of death,

    5. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      1 Judge not, norine, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured unto you. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye...Sinaiticus.

    6. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      U didn't get Gen 1 right nor Matt 7:1 which is an IMPERATIVE SENTENCE! GOD LOVES "JUDGMENT" w/HIS WORD for sin (Lev19:17)!
      Google "Is It Right to Judge?"
      No wonder u ran from RELIGION! U didn't know WHAT was going on!

    7. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      imperative: giving an authoritative command.
      you use words you obviously dont understand.
      i think you are the one who got it wrong. what makes you think youre going to heaven when all you do is corrupt scripture to fit youre own ideas? god sees you.

    8. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Corrupt your interpretation of what *you* think the Bible says through "teachings" & not through "the connection" one needs from the HOLY SPIRIT!
      Did I not say "demons" come out?  Look at you & this woman called "MISFIT" which is very appropr

  16. profile image49
    ByHisGrace17posted 11 years ago

    You asked the question, I’ll let God answer it though The Bible (The Infallible Word of God) First of all, Christianity is not a “religion” it is a “faith” which is a very common lie or misconception. God made man, man made religion.

    http://olghfw.com/media/1/9/2%20Wedding … tament.pdf

    Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.”

    John 4:16 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” Jesus was the ultimate sacrifice to forgive us from all our sins so that by grace through faith and accepting Him as our Lord and Savior for the remission of our sins might be saved.

    John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 

    As far as how you live your life being of no consequence unless you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

    No matter what good works John Doe does or how good of a man he is unless he accepts Jesus as his Lord and Savior and repents of his sins and ask for forgiveness good works will not get you into Heaven.

    Titus 3:5 He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit.

    Matthew 10:32-33 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

    Colossians 1:10

    1 John 1:7

    Man’s good works will never get him into Heaven without the Blood of Jesus that washes away our sins, that washes us white as snow. You cannot enter into Heaven as a sinner. John Doe can’t wait until he is dead to realize that there is a God.

    Luke 16:19-31

    We are covered in sin and no amount of good that we can do will ever measure up to the amount of sin we are covered in.

    Religious affiliation has nothing to do with getting into Heaven.

    Matthew 7

    http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/salvatio … _grace.htm

    I pray that this answers your questions
    I know that accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior has been the greatest thing I have ever done with my life

    God Bless

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Keep reading Rm 3:23-31! HAVE SINNED means 1 did in PAST! Don't let "religion" fool you!

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Again Norine if you have to ask for something from some one else you and that person are not the same. Jesus looks up into heaven as he requests.  If he was God the Father he would not have to ask anything. He is not the Father.

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      GOD was on a Mission "in the flesh" therefore HE had "feelings" as a man & spoke to HIMSELF as we do!  Right now I'm praying "LORD, open her "eyes" and since WE are ONE SPIRIT ("IN CHRIST") can't you see the metaphor?
      NOT that I'm GOD but "god!"

    4. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine  if you want to apply curse then start with King James who replace Jehovah  with LORD. But can you do that since you think he has no errors that you trust in his translation 100 % maybe he has cursed you for believing in what he has done.

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Didn't GOD SAY "I AM" is my Name forever & this is my memorial unto  ALL generations" (Exd 3:14-15)?  Don't they mean the same thg "WAS, AM, & IS TO COME?" Oh Lord, that "man" chg'd in your *Bible! GOD who "WAS, AM & IS TO COME!"
      *Rev1:8;

    6. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine  you can not prove anything with a faulty manuel. Just like a car , if the manuel has errors and deletions then you can not use it as valid info over the original text.
      The Bible I use is translated  in our Language  from Hebrew  and Greek.

    7. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "Faulty manual?" The HOLY SPIRIT "leads & guides" me; not a book!  Jer 31:34 "And they shall teach no more every man his brother Saying Know the Lord; (v33) for I will "put my laws in their inward parts!"
      When did you receive the"Communication Li

  17. avonladykellie profile image59
    avonladykellieposted 11 years ago

    There is no such thing as hell. We create our own fears and our own hell in our minds.
    When we are cruel to life and or want to be. We create unhealthy spiritual inside us.
    We live in our beliefs therefore if we believe in a god, we live in this belief.

    It doesn't mean there is one. Controlling ourselves with a belief such as a
    god, we are not creating our own beliefs, we are influenced to live by anothers or a churches.

    When we live life, care for and love life which means others and nature, we
    are a truly loving being. A god is not is this picture we are. Loving and
    being true to your own heart instead of anothers is being a true being.

    Believing and following someone who is never here is not a healthy spiritual
    belief to fall into.

    I believe that when we follow and allow anyone especially a god to control my choices, we are more likely to end up in a darker or more ignorant place spiritually.

    A true heart creates a true self and lives in their true beliefs only

    Hope this helps

    Kellie Hastings
    believer in truth and love,,,,,not and never in a god

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      "A true heart creates a true self and lives in "their" true beliefs only."  What basis used for "their true beliefs?"  Man has TRUTH?

  18. cebutouristspot profile image71
    cebutouristspotposted 11 years ago

    We will never know smile

    What is good or bad is define by our society.

    The important thing is just live your life as good as you can within the confine of society and of course law smile

    1. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ivan sorry I am so late answering what are limits . Well the whole problem in this world is that people can not mentally  seperate  what the Heavenly Father  is doing ,from what satan  is doing. !
      I will shorten this ,there are five important

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Sure IS!

      Especially when a man has re-written Bible & made ERRORS!

  19. sehrm profile image72
    sehrmposted 11 years ago

    All of the answers have been so Christocentric! You know - other religions have their form of heaven. I am one such "non-religious" person (actually I'm not non-religious, but completely atheist), and I believe in a final rest where I let my body decompose into the soil for some oak tree or earth worm to enjoy. Dying thus, there is no judgement.

    1. sehrm profile image72
      sehrmposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I would like to add to this: no, non-religious people are not going to hell because hell only exists in the minds of the religious.

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry to disappoint you!

  20. profile image58
    spock28posted 11 years ago

    no they make hell in heaven!1 and heaven in hell!! for they neither believe in hell or heaven only in self!!

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Well "self" we know where they're going!  One can call it what they will but HELL (Lake of Fire) exists!

  21. Mickji profile image71
    Mickjiposted 11 years ago

    Why do you think that people should go to Hell? Also, do you think that Hell is a bad place? There are religions where Hell doesn't exists, there is only "the good place" and the place where you are now.
    Also, isn't it written that at the end God will forgive anyone? So is  the lack of beliving a problem or is your fear of the Hell a problem?
    In your answers you talk about Jesus ... But which one are you talking about ? The one of the Catholic, the Protestant, or the Jeovaism religion ?
    An old says tell "Believe in your God but don't touch mine". The human need to believe in someone higher and bigger because else it will feel all alone and sad. This doesn't mean that every people believe in the same thing. There are some people that think that after death the human will become something else, something that will help someone else. Other simply think that we are energy and will become life energy. There is nothing wrong in this... For example there are indigenos in the forest who neither know that they are not alone and the world is not a huge forest... Who are we to change their life and belief ?

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Mic: Spoken as a true unblvr!  Eph 4:4-6! "ONE GOD, ONE SPIRIT!" Yes, HELL is a bad pl! Relig where HELL doesn't exist fm Satan not Bible! "Benefits" BEFORE HELL (while alive) more relevant! Avoiding HELL add'l "BENEFIT=ETERNAL LIFE!"

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine Jesus makes that clear in Hebrew and Greek he spoke in .
      Go and read and post the answer it is correct.

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Again!  You defy Scripture!  I Pet 3:15 "Be ready ALWAYS to give an answer..."
      I ask AGAIN "After being found guilty, what is GOD going to do with us?"

  22. ariellesterling profile image70
    ariellesterlingposted 11 years ago

    What I would question is whether or not the non-religious person believed in the concept of heaven or hell to begin with...

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      IGNORANCE of the law or GOD excuses no man!

  23. turboguy profile image60
    turboguyposted 11 years ago

    The standard God has is the same for the Christian as for the one who is not a Christian. And it is not based on works or religious affiliation It is based on what you did with God's Son while here on earth. God decides, not man.

    1. profile image0
      Deborah Sextonposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      James 2:21

      Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Deb: Do u live under OLD COVENANT when JESUS came, DIED, & left NEW COVENANT? Did He DIE in VAIN?

      "WORKS" by Abraham was "BELIEVING" (FAITH/MENTAL WORK) GOD would intervene & HE DID! 

      MAN looks "carnally" re: WORKS v HOLY SPIRIT "WORKS!

    3. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      True Jesus was a helper a master builder.
      Ge 1:26 Then God said: “Let us make man in our image,according to our likeness,
      (Our) simply says and means he was assited.
      Later we learn the name was Micheal the Archangel to Jesus a earthly  assignment

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Girl, GOD operates in "GLORIES" different Ones but JESUS was "the brightness of HIS GLORY" (Heb1:3) OR the BEST "GLORY" manifested (ITim3:16)! Look @ Heb1:8! GOD called HIS "Son" GOD?  Although NWT says "ONE" SPIRIT (ICor12) look how he "contradicts

  24. Unknown Ink profile image61
    Unknown Inkposted 11 years ago

    The answer isn't as simple mainly because we are not God to decide. There is a reason there is something called a 'day of judgement'... I assume it is for the reason to decide or judge on heaven/hell factors.

    As far as being religious is concerned; if you find peace in following a certain religion and be a good human by all means go ahead. However, if you are not religious yet are humane by every definition then you should have peace knowing that at the very least you are making a difference and helping people. No one really knows what happens in the after life; we all just assume a set of things based on our particular beliefs.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      "No one really knows what happens in the after life;" if an unbeliever for IT IS WRITTEN!

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The bible is clear as a guide of truth . The phrase after life is an Eygptain  term.
      The Bible is very clear there is no activity  when you die.
      Ec 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, .....
      PS 115:17 ,

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Daniel 12:2; Matt9:24; Rev 14:13; Jn5:28-29; Ps17:15; Is26:19; I Thess4:13-18; Ecc12:7; Phil123: IICor5:8; Jn14:1-3; Matt10:28; Matt27:52; Jn10:28; II Tim4:1; Rm2:6-8; Rev2:7; Rev22;12-14; I Cor15:12-23;Phil3:11;ITh4:13-18;Jn6:44; Rm6:5-11;Phil3:14;

    4. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Also Norine a real Doctor  is not taught his profession out of one publication.
      His research and studies are many books
      You can not based truth out of on bible or belief in one publication of one translation.
      KJV is a poor translation.

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      We were TOLD by JESUS (aka GOD) "HE" would "lead & guide us into "ALL" truth" (Jn14:26;16:13)!  Either u BELIEVE "GOD" or NOT!
      When 1 has acquired a "Connection Line" (aka Holy Spirit via "WAITING" Acts 1:4)  to HIM, HE tells us TRUTH & NOT a

    6. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Julie there are people who just died because of crime and they just started going to worship. So that is why we understand the Father's  thinking is not human thinking. Re 20:5(The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were end

    7. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Where is "just started going to worship" in WORD?

  25. healthyfitness profile image68
    healthyfitnessposted 11 years ago

    This is the root problem of the whole hell and heaven thing. If someone is ignorant to them how would they know the requirements? I think the concept was necessary back in the day before we could explain morals and fully understand our actions, but nowadays they aren't as necessary imo.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No one is "Ignorant to them & doesn't know the requirements" IF they obeyed "LAST" commandment (Acts1:4) "WAIT" for HELP from the HOLY SPIRIT (Jn14:26)! 
      "Back in the day?"  Heb13:8 "Jesus Christ the same yesterday,today & forever!"

  26. dailytop10 profile image81
    dailytop10posted 11 years ago

    I think not. I believe that above anything else, how you treat others matter most. A religious only by name has shallow faith but one who practices what he preaches proves that he truly understands God's words.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I believe ALL "religious" people are going to HELL!

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine  the Angel makes this clear.
      Joh 4:23Re 19:10 At that I fell down before his feet to worship him. But he tells me: “Be careful! Do not do that! I am only a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who have the work of witnessing concerning

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "To worship who?" ERROR!
      Vs1 says "a great voice of much people" v4 "24 elders & the beast" v5 "And a voice saying Praise our God" (not JESUS talking) v7Lamb is come (not talking) v10 "Get up I'm fellow servant"v11;13;16 GOD (aka JESUS)!

    4. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ivan the chess pieces our us and satan is a sore loser the earth is the board of life ,if we stand on satan side we have already loss ,but the board belongs to our Heavenly Father, the difference is God can restore and undo all damage, satan can not

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      U "stand on Satan's side" when you believe (as NWT states) "holy spirit" (sm "h" & "s") is NOT JESUS when that same book says JESUS SAID "the Father would send IN MY NAME.."(Jn14:26;NWT)!
      What kind of FOOL r u believing a "cult?"
      U "drunk the coo

  27. Sneha More profile image60
    Sneha Moreposted 11 years ago

    I believe that there is a power who is the creater n religions are way of life which will guide u for of life and  nothing  u should do good deeds u dnt need to worship  god n follow ur religion but u need to jst make sure that u r not going on any wrong path , god has created us he will not punish u for ur disbelief in him if u r a good person u deserve to b sent to heaven .

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Who told u "HE will not punish for disbelief in him if ur r a "good person" u deserve to go to heaven?"  Not the WORD=GOD!

      "..he will not punish u for ur disbelief in him if u r a good person u deserve to b sent to heaven.

      Satan's job (Jn 10:10)

    2. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus specifically says "the only way to the father is through me". I think, based on the different replies, that christianity is not the only way to god even though the christian bible says different. So, who is right & who is wrong..does it mat

    3. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The bible is for all humans ,God's  word existed before it added Christ the Son of God. So its a human guide of past ,present and future events that will  effect every life on earth even in death there is still a gift to be resurrected  back .

    4. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      All religious texts are for all people. How when and why they became divisive is anyones' guess but to arbitrarily put the bible above all others even though it came well after several other belief systems with similar stories is a bit arrogant.

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T "Christ was there "from the beginning" (Jn1:14;Jn17:5; Rev1:8;11) why do u believe otherwise?
      Ivan: I Jn 4:1! We have a "choice" (Josh24:15)!

    6. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Humans are partial! Its clearly addresses man ,woman and child, humans add their own prejudices and distinctions.
      Anyone can read the bible from around the world and get the same benefits if applied and lived by.But also the opposite reaps something

    7. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: That's why there are 33K+ denominations in US! They don't OBEY GOD & "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for HELP (Jn14:26;16:13) therein TRUTH & NO CONSEQUENCES!

    8. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      And it why there are 33K+ denominations in US! That didn't "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for HELP (Jn14:26;16:13) from the HOLY SPIRIT who "leads & guides us into "ALL" TRUTH - THEN - NO CONSEQUENCES!

    9. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Julie ones life cut short on earth may continue  after the resurrection.  At that time one will live in a cleansed earth free from sickness  ,free from crime, free from satans influence  . It will then be a judgment  time under those conditions.

    10. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: U defy Scripture by NOT giving WORD for "your" belief (IITim3:16)! Why should 1 blv what "you" say? Back it up w/WORD!
      I'm still waiting for an answer: What has the HOLY SPIRIT spoken to you "DIRECTLY?" It only appears "brainwashing" by man

  28. rosafilipina profile image61
    rosafilipinaposted 11 years ago

    We need to accept people the way they are since God has good reasons for creating them. We would not learn if everything is good. God has created the world perfectly.  There is always the opposite of everything.  We do not have the right to judge how non-religious they are since we are all sinners.  We need to think and feel positively to make our actions toward other people passive that would create a sound environment and make ourselves happy.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      WRONG! 
      Did JESUS "accept people the way they are"(Matt23)? When HE did HE told them to "GO & sin no more" (Jn8:11)! 
      As DISCIPLES, we are to "CORRECT" (2Tim3:16) & "TEACH"(Matt28:19)! 
      Why the world in such a MESS!
      Google "Is it right to

  29. profile image0
    Deborah Sextonposted 11 years ago

    No, they are not going to hell. It is the deeds of mercy and a good life that connects us to God. God would never send a person such as this to a hell
    Faith alone does not save us..works do
    James 2:14
    What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
    James 2:17
    Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

    Works justify us

    James 2:21
    Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
    James 2:24
    Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Deb: "Works" r not "doings!"  Do u know "Faith" won in Abraham's case 2? Ex: If dr tells u, u have 1 mo to live, do u not "WORK" using ur FAITH by BELIEVING "That's not what MY God says rather "By His stripes I (we) ARE healed!" That takes "WORKS!"

  30. profile image51
    richstadposted 11 years ago

    Yes. Human works do not help you get to Heaven. Only accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour will do it. Jesus said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life; no-one gets to the Father except through Me."

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Eph 2:9!

    2. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus did not mean that HE was 'the way' - he meant that his christos within (that exists with all) is the way. He was showing people they didn't NEED the pagan salvation of Mithras or Apollo, etc. The Jewish Law Jesus fulfilled was Kabbalah.

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It's in us BUT we have to "flip the switch" by BELIEVING & having "FAITH" in HIS PROMISES!
      Paul was "chosen" (Acts 9:15) to tell us how to "flip the switch" or Kabbalah (aka "receive") the spirit in us which lies dormant w/o BELIEF!

  31. profile image51
    Calvin L Dunbarposted 11 years ago

    The whole point here is that God wants all of each of us. It is not by our works that we may enter into he kingdom of heaven, but by the grace of God. We can never be ood for God. Our good is as filthy rags. The only way to avoid hell is to accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and then live according to his righteousness which is found in the Bible and then hell can never be an option.  John 3:16 in the bible.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Yes! Gal 1:6-9!  Study!

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Uday No you can not go to any different  bank accept the real title of your bank you deposit your money in.
      True there is no hell ,that is a contaminated
      Doctrin, the word does not exist in Hebrew or Greek to mean what people believe.

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Either you believe the Bible or not! If GOD "killed" in the OT & Heb 13:8 says Jesus Christ is the same then as now (Rev1:8;11) HE'LL "kill" in LOF!
      Your "man" has changed the "doctrine" of Christ via NWT!

    4. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      GE-HINNOM – ...According to Jer. vii. 31 et seq., xix. 6 et seq., it was to be turned into a place of burial; hence "the accursed valley Ge-hinnom" ("Gehenna" in the N. T.) came to be synonymous with a place of ...punishment, and thus with hell.

    5. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ivan true this place actually  existed as a garbage dump.  When we send our garbage to a dump we do not retrieve  it is destroyed forever and forgotten.like your garbage last year is over with.
      Jesus used this example to explain how humans could l

    6. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It still exists dear heart.  It sounds good that it doesn't exist but GOD doesn't CHANGE (Lk 16:24)!
      Do u know you're going to have to give in account for "leading HIS sheep astray" (Jer 23:1)?

  32. Oztinato profile image77
    Oztinatoposted 11 years ago

    No way will any such person go to any hell.
    A kind compassionate and good atheist is just as good as a good Christian.
    It is acts of kindness that count and not just words.

    1. Omer123 profile image60
      Omer123posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      if you are atheist then how you can limit , how you can know this is good and that work is bad or sin ? hah no faith mean no limitation and no worries about any work ...

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Micheal  he said at Lu 23:43 And he said to him: “Truly I tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise.”
      Jesus was telling him he would be resurrected.
      Hab 2:14For the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of Jehovah ,

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      He would be resurrected because HE BELIEVED!  Not unbelievers going to "Paradise" but LOF (aka HELL) even ur NWT says (Lk16:24)!
      Do u realize u're going to have to give in acct for LIES told before JEHOVAH even in IGNORANCE (Jer23:1)?

  33. theman6007 profile image59
    theman6007posted 10 years ago

    Modern Christianity has it's roots in the Egyptian mystery cults. Even Moses was a member of the mystery cult. He knew all of the Egyptian mystery systems. The Bible can attest to this. Now as time passed, the mysteries were rearranged by the people who conquered Egypt. Osiris, Isis, and Horus became the father,son, and the holy ghost.The Catholic church became the dominate religion that used the concept of hell to keep it's members true to the Catholic dogma. And if you did not believe the Catholic dogma, you and your family members were burned at the stake.Wars were fought over whose religion should be the dominate religion. Once the religious wars ceased, then wars of ideology commenced. The Muslims are still fighting religious wars. As a result of all of this chaos, hell was created right here on earth.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      If u blv "Modern Christianity has it's roots in the Egyptian mystery cults.," then u don't blv in God!  Yes, GOD allowed man "free will," as He does today, but got tired as He will today then "the judgment" & 1 will "see" the inevitable (hell)!

    2. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Zarathustra (Sumerian Noah) came well before that of the biblical Noah yet they are the same. The story of the first created Adam was written first by the Sumerians as well. If they were written first by Sumerians how can the bible claim them?

    3. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Steven has spoken great truth here.
      Symbols of Eygpt  plague christians.
      Jesus himself did not wear symbols even though the cross existed as a fertility symbol called the Aunkh.
      But after his death they use it with his body on it .how disgusting

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Either you believe GOD or Zarathustra!
      Colossians 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

    5. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine  it's simple stated ,Byington
      Joh 17:5 now glorify me in turn, Father, alongside yourself with the glory that I did have alongside you before the world was.
      Jesus then called Micheal worked beside his Father. he  ask him to do something .

    6. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well that "man" changed your Bible! Look how your Jn1:1 reads "In the beginning was the Word & the Word was w/God & the Word was "a" god not was THE GOD but "a" god (little g) signifying other god not "THE" GOD?
      How'd u get mixed up n that?

    7. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine  address the comments  based on truth and subject. King James of 1600 is not a bible to compare truth with. He deleted  God's personal  name into LORD that is wrong. So until you can find a better translations to compare no match .

    8. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Until you acquire a "Connection" to GOD ("WAIT" Acts 1:4) & allow HIM do as HE PROMISED ("lead & guide" Jn14:26;16:13), you will fall for ANYTHING! 
      Bible=Schoolmaster; but after "Connection Line" acquired, HE tells us TRUTH-"DIRECTLY"(Jer 3

    9. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Quote: "Either you believe GOD or Zarathustra!" 
      Well, since Zarastrutha came first I thinks it's obvious who we should "believe". When one steals the works of another as his own it's called "plagearizing" regardless of who believes it.

    10. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Not according to *my* belief!  MY GOD created your "Zarathustra" (Col2:8)! The philosophy of men have NO meaning to *my* belief in a "SPIRITUAL" GOD! 
      Keep believing philosophy & maybe you'll find "evolution" is true as did your forefathers!
      (HA

    11. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "Either you believe GOD or Zarathustra!" were your words not mine.
      "Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy"
      Its not philosophy, it's dated fact, the flood story of Zarathustra was the original.

    12. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Your "dated fact" means NOTHING to me because "facts" to man is different from "facts" with GOD!

      "He who has "ears," let them "hear" (Matt 13:9)!

    13. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You say "Your "dated fact" means NOTHING to me because "facts" to man is different from "facts" with GOD!"
      So stealing the stories of older religions and saying they came from God is somehow a "fact" of Gods?

    14. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It doesn't matter what "man" says; BUT what GOD has DONE in my life by standing on HIS PROMISES ("FACTS")! 
      As far as I'm concerned, "man" can PROVE his "theory" on WHATEVER, but because I've EXPERIENCED HIS PROMISES "TRUE;" there's no changing!

    15. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Would you mind sharing with us some of those promises God has stood on with you and in your life? Afterall, isn't sharing the "good news" a responsibility of the christian?

    16. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Why? To "mock!"  You don't "believe" so you wouldn't believe no matter WHAT I said!
      I've shared before on HP!

    17. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No, I won't mock you. And what matters to you is what YOU believe. I'm just trying to understand how people can have such blind faith in a religion that "mirrors" it's tenets after an earlier religion that it now considers false or untrue.

    18. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You'll NEVER understand because of "unbelief" which stifles "supernatural experiences" from GOD which gives one "proof;" HE FULFILLS PROMISES!
      One "can't enter because of "unbelief" (Heb3:19)!

    19. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I have experienced the supernatural. So apparently "believing" in God is not a pre-requisite for it. There are many Empathetics who'll tell you the same thing. Not saying your view is wrong but that there are others. BTW, christianity is from judaism

    20. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I said "STIFLES" bcuz "Gifts are W/O REPENTANCE" (Rm11:29)! That's why Matt 7:22! 
      I don't care where "man's Christianity" comes from, mine comes from following the HOLY SPIRIT (aka JESUS)!

    21. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I said "STIFLES" bcuz "Gifts are W/O REPENTANCE" (Rm11:29)! That's why Matt 7:22!
      So then according to this God gives those gifts regardless of whether we repent or not? or am I misinterpreting it?

    22. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      TRUE based on WORD (Rm11:29)! Don't you remember when Pharoh's magicians thru their rods down & they became serpents but Moses' serpent ate them up?Those (evil) powers were "gifts" fm GOD (Is45:7)! So were those in Matt7:22! 1 can be easily foole

    23. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ivan there are people who do not accept Jesus or the Father .
      True we all recieve his kindness and blessings to use his power to live and resources,without these no human could live.
      And yet even the Atheist use his gifts.
      But there is a limit .

    24. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      So, regardless of how man uses these "gifts" from God, God allows us them. Alright, I understand that, but I'm not sure of why God would do that. I would think that he'd reserve such for his faithful, no? & what are those "limits" you mentioned,

    25. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No "limits" in THIS WORLD; consequences but no "limits!" OK "witchcraft" for example! Satan has "power" too (IThess2:18)! God ALLOWS evil to overrule & receive "GLORY!"We MUST stay "on guard" w/HELP fm HOLY SPIRIT(Eph6:10-12)!GOD "reveals" to HIS

    26. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      According to Celsus (in Origen, "Contra Celsum," i. 28) and to the TALMUD (Shab. 104b), "Jesus learned magic in Egypt and performed his miracles by means of it."
      Sounds like an Egyptian connection to me.

    27. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Where did I get mine from?  HE passed it on to me? 
      THANK GOD!

    28. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Here is proof ! 34 hours ago under Tom Ware name and coment box.
      .MF: U don't believe "The Prophets," U don't believe Revelations,
      Misfit had no comment anywhere on the page . you are a liar and you do not live what you preach.

    29. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      AGAIN, I was addressing "M"i-s-"F"-i-t (MF)! "No weapon that's formed against u shall prosper;& every tongue that shall rise against u in judgment u shall condemn.This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD,&their righteousness of me."(I

  34. profile image53
    TammyCrawfordposted 10 years ago

    If people don't truly know God how do they expect to live with him. Would you let strangers come and live in your house.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Amen! AND it's ALL SPIRITUAL!

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The Tetragrammaton  in Hebrew is YHWH which is Jehovah.King James admits this even though he deleted  his name over 6,000 times Ex 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH --

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      JEHOVAH & I AM is definition for HIS "FUNCTIONS" (aka GLORIES) not the Name we will "bend our knees to!"  Your NWT says at the Name of JESUS every knee shall "bend their knees"...(Phil2:10) why "bend our knees" to someone who is NOT GOD?

    4. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine Jesus is our paid entrance to Jehovah. He is the only one that died in our behalf . he never sinned or deserved to die .so when he did the value was like our paid ticket into the new system under his rulership.
      Again he is our key to Jehovah.

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Even your NWT says ITim3:15-16 GOD was manifested in the flesh v15 speaking of GOD v16 says HE was manifested in the flesh!  JESUS is GOD'S Greatest "GLORY" of manifestation to men but THE SAME SPIRIT! "Spin off" trinity doctrine otherwise!

  35. Rosualdo Ponce profile image80
    Rosualdo Ponceposted 10 years ago

    A good life apart from Jesus is based on man's righteousness or worldly standards. A good life without Jesus goes to eternal doom. Whoever has the Son (Jesus Christ) has life, whoever has not the Son has no life.

    1. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Very true you can not recieve benifits if you are not signed up for them .
      Jesus did his part of the assignment.
      At lease out of appreciation we can show support this leads to receiving the benifits under his kingship.
      If you decline that choice

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      How do we "show support?"  By "DOING" right or by BELIEVING & OBEYING HIS commands?

    3. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Then you apply that meaning by showing  where omnipresent  is located  in the Bible .
      I am waiting for scripture.

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Again I say:  Jer 23:24!

  36. akshay199325 profile image68
    akshay199325posted 10 years ago

    Absolutely not . It is your doings in the world which decide where you will go after death

  37. Dakk profile image88
    Dakkposted 9 years ago

    This depends on each person's religion, obviously, but I believe that no, a person that leads a good life is not going to hell.

    However, I'm (kind of) a spiritist, so there's that. I believe that, as long as a person tries to evolve personally and has love for people in general, and also acts according to said feelings, then there's no such thing as hell for them.

    Even in christianity, the concept of an eternal hell is a very controversial topic, and doesn't actualy exist in judaism (gehenna and sheol are temporary, more akin to the purgatory than hell). Eternal hell is a greek pagan concept that got adapted into christianity after Jesus Christ's lifetime.

    Hell isn't an actual thing in religions that influenced christianity. Hermeticism has no concept of hell, altough there are references to "ignorant" souls being tortured by demons, but even that is temporary, since every spirit that does not achieve "knowledge" in hermeticism is bound to reincarnate in one way or another.
    Gnosticism tells us that, technically, we are already in hell, since the worst state of existence is being trapped in the physical universe of the Demiurge, from which we must escape to get back to the original spiritual realm of the gods, since souls are divine sparks trapped in the physical world by the Demiurge out of jealousy.

    Eternal hell isn't even a common concept in asian religion. In hinduism/buddhism, every single hell is temporary, altough they last a long time.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T:  NWT=Jn 14:26 HS sent "IN MY NAME" (JesusSAY) & Acts 7:51, "..ye RESIST the holy spirit (Sm "h" & "s")!
      What kind of "FOOL" would defy HS; "own" Bible (NWT)? 
      Your "cult" defies JESUS who we "bend our knees" (Phil2:10;NWT) because H

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine case and point what people you know wake up and sa" Ye are to go to the the store" you use a bible not your language and can not currently or accurately explain the truth from the language spoken in.
      Ivan has a good point about you
      Get help.

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      DEMONS "agree" (Ps119:63;Matt12:26)!
      U "FOOL!" Carnal lang differ fm HOLY SPIRIT lang!  HS (aka JESUS) makes ALL "ONE" language (Acts2:8) but u wouldn't know this since "cult" doesn't TEACH referring to HIM w/lil "h" & "s!"
      No understandn(2Cor4:3

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That "cult" has TAUGHT u to DENY the POWER (Acts1:8) of HS; losing souls! 
      Until u do, seems u need "HELP" fm JESUS (aka HS) to "lead & guide u into ALL truth"(Jn14:26)!
      Who could've make up that org but Satan to "lose souls?"

  38. Kiss andTales profile image60
    Kiss andTalesposted 9 years ago

    Good question , but the true God is of Justice ,and you can take confort in knowing this fact,Isa 55:8“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, And your ways are not my ways,” declares Jehovah.
    That is the point here these are man's thoughts not God the Father. 
    Hell in Hebrew in the original text does not mean to burn in a fire. But King James an episcopal used the word to his belief of the 1600's
    The word in Hebrew was hades , Sheol , simple a person's grave.
    Look up the Hebrew meaning.
    Hell is a man made doctrine used in the wrong way.

    If this was the case of hell then why would Jesus say
    Death was the wages of sin. Meaning sins are paid when death happens.
    Ro 6:23 For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord

    Example if you work a Job your wages are paid after the work is done.
    When paid , do you say I was not paid and look for another check or money when the money is in your hand?
    The case is close after you were paid fees
    Your sins case is close once death paid for them.
    In order for you to burn in a fire , you would not be dead to know this.
    The clearly says this (Ec 9:5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten)
    Means no memory activities is present.
    To conclude in truth notice .Ec 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.
    The bible is very clear no activity is going on in the grave.
    So do not fear what man has written. God almighty is not cruel people are who believe this.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: U forgot "God is the SAME yesterday, today & forever!"  What did He do in OT to unblvrs? Hell (death) is there for us2!  U INSIST on "looking @ Bible LITERALLY/CARNALLY!  Our spirits will NEVER die!  "MAN'S" teachings KILL v HOLY SPIRIT

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine  I arise to here you complain of the word blazing fire.
      Compared again to KJV. I already helped you to see KJV has ruined the bible  from his 1600's version, why don't you use another version to prove a point ,you hate for no reason at all

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes I "hate" the man that has "brainwashed" JW'S souls to believe nonsense hence forming a "cult" based on ONLY ONE of GOD'S NAMES or FUNCTIONS! Everything he states is under OC or Phil2:10 in  NWT LIED! Why "knees bending" to other than GOD?

    4. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well you are not obeying Jesus because Jesus  says pray for your enemies.  He never said hate anyone.
      And again JW is not an ocult. ocults are private with secrets and magic. We do neither.  We are public servants ID is in bible.

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I pray for ALL but hate LIARS moreso those who "lose souls!"
      Oh yes!  HE HATES UNRIGHTEOUSNESS (LIARS)!
      Why we "bending our knees" to someone other than GOD (NWT; Phil2:10)?

  39. C McNairy Wight 1 profile image68
    C McNairy Wight 1posted 9 years ago

    God loves everyone.  We will all be resurrected. Those who did not accept Christ in this life will be given chances in the next life. Christ will do anything to get us back in His fold.  I do not believe in Hell, except for the Sons of Perdition. -those who knew the gospel was true by revelation from God and denied it.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Who told u this Carol?  Explain Heb 9:27 "And it's appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment!" 
      READ Heb 3:15-19! 
      Can u provide Scripture for your belief? I'm open for learning!

    2. C McNairy Wight 1 profile image68
      C McNairy Wight 1posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Norine, I wrote a Hub about it.  Look for "In response to Norine"

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you Carol!  I'll read!

    4. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ivan 5 spirit bodies that are involved in all human life.They are not visible to the human eye as air is to the eye.
      But they have a great influence on us all.
      I will list. (Jehovah,  Jesus,  Angels ,satan ,demon angels.)
      People are fooled who

    5. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yalḳ. ii. 296 to Isa. xxvi. 2 says: "Moved to pity by this Amen from the dwellers of hell, God will bid the angels Michael and Gabriel release them from hell and place them in paradise".
      so much for how you live while on earth.

    6. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      They'll be "released from hell" ONLY if they believe while on earth (Hebrews 3:19)!

    7. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If they believed while on earth they wouldn't be in hell in the first place. Hebrews 3:19 has nothing to do with the term "Amen" getting anyone released from hell;Yalḳ. ii. 296 does.

    8. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      When "never there in the 1st place" they've found "release" or "Salvation" & will "never be there in the 1st place" & will "enter" because they BELIEVED!
      Ivan tell me what Isaiah 48:12 says in your Religion?

  40. Blessed Hill profile image60
    Blessed Hillposted 9 years ago

    Doesn't really matter what you or I believe about the fate of other people, whether they are hell or heaven bound. That is their burden to carry. The best thing you and I can do is make sure we are sure about our own eternity. It's a very dangerous slippery slope when we continuously preoccupy ourselves with the fate of others. We don't know every detail of their lives to base a belief on whether or not they will go to hell.
    If God is a righteous and just God and He sends someone to hell, don't you think it would be for a righteous and just reason. If you say no, then mankind has no right incarcerating another human being. Righteousness and justice must prevail or the entire universe would spiral into chaos.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You are NOT a "Disciple of Christ" if you can't teach w/WORD "correcting" (2Tim 3:16) which u call "judging!  Is 59:8 "...there is no JUDGMENT n their goings: they've made them crooked paths: whosoever goeth therein shall not know peace."
      I Pet4:17!

    2. Blessed Hill profile image60
      Blessed Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry Norine but you don't get to decide whether I am a disciple of Christ or not. He called me, He saved me and He will finish the good work He started in me. Your scripture quoting is like clanging cymbals in my ears. Irritating!

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I give WORD so it not "me" but GOD TALKING!  HE gets to decide & if u go AGAINST HIS WORD, u R NOT a Disciple of Christ! Just bcuz I quote what HE'S SAID & u've not been "taught" doesn't make HIS WORD WRONG!
      U have "itching ears!"
      "Finish?"R

    4. Blessed Hill profile image60
      Blessed Hillposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      God bless you Norine

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      GOD bless u as well! 
      But WORD will NOT CHANGE no matter what you've been "taught!"

  41. profile image0
    Kay-ce L Adamsposted 8 years ago

    It is left to your interruption. It does clearly give you the guidelines for what is expected and what is not in the bible for getting into heaven.

    "Good" is only a term relative to the person who is claiming it. A good person can still be unsaved.

    I guess, it would really matter about what God considers and less what we do.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Amen!  "For by GRACE are you 'saved' through FAITH; and that NOT of yourselves: it is THE GIFT of GOD: Not of WORKS, lest ANY MAN should BOAST" (Eph 2:8-9)! 
      Too Good to Be TRUE NEWS" - THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST!

    2. profile image0
      Kay-ce L Adamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed!

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Who took down your question re: Christians arguing amongst themselves?
      You?

    4. profile image0
      Kay-ce L Adamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I did because I could edit the typo. I'm going to be putting it back up though. It is something I want to know how people answer.

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Great!  I had responded & "ready to post," then - message  "taken down!"
      Disappointment!

      Blessings

    6. profile image0
      Kay-ce L Adamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Sorry. I didn't want to give someone a reason to miss the point of the question.

    7. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine  That scripture in Jeremiah  does not say omnipresent.

      Byington
      Ps 115:16 The heavens are Jehovah’s heavens, but the earth he has given to mankind.

    8. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If "we can't hide from HIM" (Jer23:24) HE must be "looking" which means "HE fills the heaven & earth" (SPIRIT)!
      You KEEP looking "carnally!"
      Yes we have "dominion" over earth (Gen 1:26) BUT HE'S watching!
      BE CAREFUL (Ps 105:15)!

    9. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      IF "HE FILLS THE HEAVEN & EARTH" isn't HE PRESENT (aka Omnipresent)? 
      Why defy Scripture just to be "right?" 
      IF "IT IS WRITTEN" leave IT alone or you'll have to give in account for your actions!

  42. Ivan Tod profile image60
    Ivan Todposted 8 years ago

    "We have taken something that never was and turned it into everything that is and ever will be...that something is god."

    That being said, heaven and hell are constructs generated by beings much more intelligent than we were at the time of their dissemination. Is god good? well, it would seem not in the Old Testament as it is full of preferential treatment and do as I say...or I'll kill you and your entire family commentary. The New Testament however, takes a more moderate approach. One that attempts to persuade through promises of things unattainable in mundane life, rather than through direct threats of violence as with the OT. As such god is not personally present in the NT. He sends Jesus in his stead, because no one likes a bully, with the "love is the only way" approach, . 
    Since heaven, being a construct of the NT, cannot be verified, we have to consider the fact that "heaven" is christian creation and as such in order to go to heaven one must be a faithful practicing christian. All others are doomed to the fires of hell...
    Fortunately, we are not all believers of heaven and hell therefore we don't all have a desire for one or fear of the other. There are very many people who live in a manner very similar to christianity...almost identically, with one exception, they have chosen no faith other than faith in people themselves and for that, according to the bible, they are going to hell rather than heaven.
    My personal belief is that the bible is the greatest terrorist handbook ever devised. It takes us all the way from how to begin how to proceed and eventually generate what is called the "Stockholm Effect" of having ones "captives" literally side with and incorporate their captors ideologies. We know through verses in the OT and his removal from the NT that god is in fact Not a nice being.
    So, I'll conclude with a statment I heard on tv the other night that I hope will give you at least one answer;
    two people were walking down the street and one said to the other "we're gonna go to hell for that", the other person said I can't go to hell because I'm not religious and don't believe in it, you, on the other hand are doomed!".

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Why then are there so many believers vs unbelievers?
      Are that MANY "IGNORANT?"

    2. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There are close to 8,000,000,000 people on earth. About 2,250,000,000 are said to be christian. So your "vs." theory is wrong and depending on who you ask many would say that "believers" are actually the ignorant ones...Knowledge holds the answers.

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      According to a survey by World Religions Religion Statistics Geography Church Statistics ppl who are "secular, non-religious, agnostics & atheists" account for only 14% of the WORLD'S population; 14% of 7 BILLION is only 980 million people!"
      Why

    4. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Norine  if I ask you to do something it is no way we could be the same person.
      Because if Jesus was God the Father he would not ask to glorify  him beside him the way it use to be.
      Jesus is limited  because he asks the Father.
      Joh 5:19.

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That metaphor signifies the desire of GOD'S heart to "get out of the flesh" & reconcile back to THE SPIRIT like we desire if "IN CHRIST!"
      Girl, u can't "look @ "the letter" (IICor3:6)! HE told us to "WORSHIP IN SPIRIT & IN TRUTH" (Jn4:23-24)!

    6. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Did this in scripture say metaphor, No !
      Joh 17:4 I have glorified you on the earth, having finished the work you have given me to do.
      Again he asks something from the Father .
      Joh 17:9 I make request concerning them; I make request,
      Here he ask

    7. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You KEEP looking @ "THE LETTER!" The Bible is written in allegories, metaphors, parables & illustrations!  We "MUST" have a "Connection Line" to "understand!" That's why there are 33K+ denominations; NO CONNECTION; ONLY "interpretations!"

  43. AF Mind profile image55
    AF Mindposted 8 years ago

    Faith and works must go hand in hand. I can't have a total good morality without my faith. But my faith is no excuse to sin. All praises to the Most High.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You don't "WORK" for "salvation" or you don't need the HOLY SPIRIT!
      "...Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of FAITH"(Gal 3:2wink?
      "For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse..." (Gal 3:10)!
      Gal1:6-9!

  44. Julie Nou profile image61
    Julie Nouposted 8 years ago

    It is not about being religious or not. It is about having a "relationship" with the Lord. With your example, you can't have a relationship if you already died. Same as it is with God. A person is given a fairly amount of years to get to know Him and accept Him as their personal Saviour and create a relationship with Him, but sadly, even though they have heard it, they just wouldn't accept it.

    [Btw, "knowing" and "accepting" are two different things.]

    God gave us the Bible as a instruction or guide for our living, and one of them is Romans 10:9, where it say, "that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved."

    Once John Doe dies, he could not do this since he is already dead. And even if he was a good person, God is just, and He wouldn't break His own rule. John Doe has his chance, a lifetime of chance, and that chance equals to God's mercy, because God doesn't want anyone to perish (2 Peter 3:9), hence the reason He died on the cross -- He had done His part, now all you need is to do yours, and that is to confess that you're a sinner and accept Christ as your personal Saviour.

    It's a easy as that...

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Julie FIRST one has to follow "instructions" in Rm 10:14-17 in order to "call upon the name of the Lord!"  One has to know what to "BELIEVE" in!  (v17) "So then FAITH cometh by "hearing," and "hearing" by the WORD of GOD!"
      Verses 14-15 is HARD!

    2. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      What if John Doe was a Musslim? or a Buddhist or any other non-christian? Do their relationships with their Gods count for anything? It sounds like you're saying that ones religion doesn't matter as long as their respective Gods are one in the same.

    3. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Julie you have spoken some truth , but you have forgotten and important thing Babies die they have had no life time to get to know the Heavenly Father. There are people who die as heros saving others lifes , there are people who are mentally sick

    4. Julie Nou profile image61
      Julie Nouposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      As for Ivan: Muslim or not, you need to be born again in God's family first in order to have a relationship with Christ. Salvation is open to everyone, regardless of your religion or the color of your skin or the status of your life.

    5. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If ONLY it were that easy! Mussilim faith is about 900 or so years old. It has 1.7 billion faithful. Being "born again" does not pertain to the 2nd largest faith driven group. Are you saying 23% of the population is wrong in how they believe?

    6. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ivan according to the Heavenly Fathers view the number of religious believers have nothing to do with Gods choice of chosen servants.
      It is written many will have the wrong path and few will find the right one.
      The door is cramp because of morals.

    7. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Matt12:36-37! 
      I would like to know since the Holy Spirit lives in you, what "Greater things than these" have you done (Jn14:12)?  Tell us what HE has "revealed" to u, vision given, dream dreamed, etc How has he spoken to u DIRECTLY?

    8. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      God doesn't speak to me at all. John 14:12 makes no mention of any particular works so I'm not quite sure why you point out that verse. Anyway, the Talmud says I get to go to heaven anyway in the end so I'll see you there whether I believe it or not.

    9. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      With most holy and holy. Where is the priest that would offer up your gift offering for your sins behind the most holy ?
      Ivan something is wrong.
      It started when the Jews rejected Gods seed provided as our Messiah.
      Your curtain torn to pieces

    10. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Why did GOD "speak to "chosen" disciples/prophets,etc? IF HE doesn't "speak to you," something is WRONG!  I don't think your unbelief will allow you to "see *me* in heaven!"

    11. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No, we're all born completely connected to God via our eternal 'christos' within. At birth, we get 'ego' meant to help us navigate this world. We go thru experiences, learn from them, potentially overcome them (or not) - body dies, ego falls away.

    12. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      MS: U & Ivan think alike "I'll see u in heaven whether I believe or not" bcuz (u say) I have Christos!  lol
      Keep thinking HE'S in unbelievers & DIE!  See where disobedient children end up!

  45. Angele Parris profile image61
    Angele Parrisposted 8 years ago

    Why do people think God is a good God? He drowned Pharaoh's army - good and bad. In New Testament, Paul was called to preach the gospel. If one lived a good life, but did not accept the message of Jesus Christ that person was not saved.

    There are good Buddhists, Hindus, and Moslems. Good preachers of these religious philosophy. What is God going to do? Convert them to Christianity?

    What also frustrates me, is John Jones, who is a hardened criminal, has a long arrest sheet, accepts Jesus in his dying bed in prison, and ends up forgiven in heaven.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Matt 24:14 "And THIS gospel of the kingdom of heaven will be preached to ALL nations (Buddhist, Hindus, Muslims,etc)..." They hear NOW! 
      ONLY GOD "draws!"
      GOD looks @ the HEART!

    2. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I dont think god is good, Angela, and apparently neither does the new testament sinces he's not in it. What do you do with something thats come to be known as not very good but you cant get rid of it altogether? You work AROUND it...OT=god NT=jesus.

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      GOD is JESUS (in the flesh; ITim3:16) in NT until HE "reconciled" to SAME SPIRIT, Ivan! 
      U read the LETTER which KILLETH (IICor3:6)! 
      HE is SPIRITUAL not LITERAL & "REMEMBERS OUR SINS NO MORE ("GRACE") - "BETTER PROMISES!"
      WONDERFUL JESUS!

    4. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ivan when you dont believe in the Good of Heavenly Father , then good does not exist , So now you want people to believe your good and right. Remember you dont believe in God the Father. So the only thing you are standing for is evil. No hope

    5. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      K&T: Can't you see that you are doing the SAME THING not believing Scripture? If JESUS ("IN MY NAME" Jn14:26) said *HE* (aka HOLY SPIRIT) would "lead&guide" us & you DEFY; you do THE SAME THING fulfilling Matt7:22!

    6. Ivan Tod profile image60
      Ivan Todposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I dont believe. Even so my life is filled with "EARTHLY" good.
      K&T, NW says U&I are doing the same thing. In her offset thinking since your bible is different from hers you are a blasphemer, liar & sinner headed straight to hell.

    7. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Amen!
      JESUS' LAST COMMANDMENT was to "WAIT" (Acts1:4) for the "PROMISE" (Jn14:26;16:13) who would "lead & guide us" but JW"S don't believe!
      What's that?
      HE also "commanded us" to "GIVE AN ANSWER for the "HOPE" this is in us" (IPet3:15) but she wo

    8. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      We ALL end up in heaven, because this world is nothing but a learning hologram for us eteral souls in which WE create our temp reality. We're basically in creation boot camp, ha! John Jones was deceived and realizes it when he dies and goes, "Oh!" smile

    9. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      If we "ALL" will end up in heaven," why do believe anything in the Bible (Lk17 KoG in us)? You've given all a "free ticket" to unbelief!  Is GOD pleased? 
      You'd better watch what you're saying & doing because *you* as other unbelievers; will DIE

  46. Omar Eldamsheety profile image70
    Omar Eldamsheetyposted 8 years ago

    If someone gave you everything you have and helped you so much and then you simply ignored him and refuse even to say hello to him and denied that he gave you anything , then he have the right to take back all what he gave you, even if you are so good with every one else.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Amen!
      Romans 1:21-32!

    2. Kiss andTales profile image60
      Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      that is what human heart says, But the Heavenly Father more merciful ?
      At least those that hate him he allows to use his power as energy to live. And yet they curse him ,deny him, ignore him.
      Each day granted but not taken away.
      Not the case

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "Not the case?" You DEFY Rm1:28 "given over to reprobate mind?" 
      Matt 13:12;Lk19:26 "shall be taken away?"
      How is this "not the case?"
      You keep DEFYING & HE will "let go!" 
      READ II Thess!  It's only 3 chapters!

  47. Misfit Chick profile image81
    Misfit Chickposted 8 years ago

    https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13302084_f260.jpg

    "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

    Christ is ALSO 'in heaven'. His SPIRIT remains in heaven WHILE he is 'in the flesh' - there is NO SEPARATION between 'Christ's Holy Spirit' and 'the flesh of Christ'. He originated 'as spirit' in heaven; and as such, remains connected to all that he is when he is here.

    This was the original message of Christ: we are 'just like him'; NOT that he was going to die and 'save us' from sin. Jesus supposedly having 'no sin nature' does not come close to resembling our human experience. Sacrifices to atone for 'sins' was a pagan concept; and the people of this world had made considerable sacrifices to their various gods & goddesses throughout history.

    John 14:6: "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

    The Theosophy folks re-discovered this: if you go into the original translation of that scripture, you will find that Jesus does not refer to himself as a 'personality' as being 'the way'; but to the divine principle of Christ or Christos - (which literally means 'the way') within Him - which exists within the hearts of everyone:

    Luke 17:20-21 “For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”

    Christ said this to Pharisees - before he died - who did not and would probably never believe in him. He is NOT talking about a kingdom within them that remains dormant until ‘his resurrected and ascended spirit’ enters them - we just read him say that his spirit is NOT separated from his body BEFORE he died.

    Plus, Jesus is speaking in CURRENT TENSE; and he does it again - John 10:34 "Is it not written in your law, I said, YOU are gods?

    We're just like him. If that were not true, then nothing Christ said, did, taught or thought means anything: he would be like any other pagan 'god' who claimed to be 'the only one' to 'save' people from eternal damnation.

    This is the thing both Pagan & Jewish leaders were afraid of: Jesus WAS 'just like us' as he claimed. How would the truth of what he was really trying to get across alter people's perceptions if they started to believe such a sacreligious message that appears to be 'against God'?

    "Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again... For I was hungry, and ye gave me meat... Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

    The truth shall set you free. More info? Spotlight Hub. smile

    1. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      When we are born is when we begin to 'become dual' beings with our eternal soul and a physical-based ego BOTH meant to assist in our soul's expansion in this life. The ego (not the personality) 'falls away' when our body dies: its purpose complete.

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      YES! I believe "ONE" Spirit but I also believe Lk 17:25 "BUT FIRST..."  Explain that 'suffering' "FIRST?"  Cross? 
      Jn14:6 How do those who DON'T "come unto to the Father but by me" fit in?
      Jn10:35"UNTO WHOM THE WORD OF GOD CAME" U hear? Not ALL!

    3. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus wasn't the 'only son of God' (saviors b4 him said they were, tho - Council of Nicea changed it) - WE are equally 'sons of God' & THAT was his original message. He didn't die for our 'sins' - pagan Mithras and others before him said they did

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I don't care WHAT HE DIED FOR; I BELIEVE HE is GOD (Acts20:28) & DIED for me whether for 'sins' or they didn't like HIM, or HIS Message - whatever!  I LOVE HIM for DYING for me and sending me HELP (HIS SPIRIT; aka HS) to make it through this life

    5. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You can love him for dying for you, he DID kind of do that but not in the way we've been force-fed. He probably died for blasphemy as a martyr for his message to expand into the consciousness of mankind cuz we needed TRUTH about our NATURAL soul.

    6. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      HE DID DIE FOR US not "kinda" & for TRUTH (Jn1:14; "GRACE & TRUTH")!
      BELIEVE HIS MESSAGE (Jn10:30;Jn10:35) CONNECT TO HIM (Acts1:4) & BELIEVE "HIS PROMISES" (Jn14:26;16:13; Jer31:33-35; Heb8:10-12;10:16;Eph2:8-9;Gal1:6-9) then you'll be

    7. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus did NOT DIE for any other reason than to become a martyr so that BOTH messages - the lie & the truth about him - could continue to EXPAND the spiritual collective consciousness of all humankind. He DID die 'for us', just not 'for sins'.

    8. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      WHATEVER reason HE DIED FOR US in "righteousness" & that's enough to LOVE & OBEY HIM!  NOW "OBEY!"  STOP "researching" & DEFYING WORD so HE can DO what HE SAID!  U thk u "overpower" HIS PROMISE(Jn14:26)?  Who can do a better job? Does HE

  48. profile image51
    michaelfaulknerposted 8 years ago

    Obtaining eternal life is not about being 51% good versus 49% not good.  In fact, it has absolutely nothing to do with being good at all.  That is salvation by works and there are not enough "good works" that you could perform to go to Heaven if you had a thousand lifetimes. Jesus teaches that only through Him will one obtain eternal life, period.

    1. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Amen! Eph 2:8-9!
      MF: I believe some Scriptures were changed by "the council" but GOD "revealed" via the HOLY SPIRIT! 
      All J wants us to know is HE loves us & wants us to love HIM w/ALL our heart(Jn14:15) then HE'LL "reveal" via our "FAITH"(Rm1:1

    2. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No bible needed to distort your thinking, Norine. God didn't need a book written for him/Jesus 300 years AFTER he died - only men needed it in order to manipulate & control masses of pagans through FEAR.

    3. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "FEAR" is defined as "RESPECT" in *my* vocabulary!  I "KNOW" HE LOVES ME!  No one had to tell me HE would "put me in hell" for me to "RESPECT" a GOD who created the entire universe.  Whose that IGNORANT? 
      IF so, it lead me to the BEST THING EVER!

  49. profile image51
    laielariposted 8 years ago

    Difficult to say haha, i'm not a religious person and my life is now not very well. But i guess my life had great moments that anyone would even know about it. I had so much luck in my life that i think i'm even more lucky than religious people. I don't have religion, truth. But sometimes I think, well. Why humans born with such this defects, deep defects that only a above mind.. i don't know, only a divine thing would create with this creativity? I guess our defects are very well creatives and well. I don't think it was initialized by something no material. But yes I think it's total nonsense this stuff and thing like ghosts, hell, people who born to be religious like a lot of africaans culture and they aren't gratificated at all.... So.... hahahas, what you think

    1. Damian10 profile image61
      Damian10posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      The problem Mr. I is there is great history and archaeology for people like King David, Jesus and even Pilate.  So these people were here.  What exactly does one do with that?   God gives us a free will you can believe or not believe as you wish.

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I think GOD doesn't make mistakes. Read Jn 9:2-3 "works of GOD might be displayed in [defects] him"  SPECIAL!  VERY SPECIAL!
      "Total nonsense?" 
      LOOK @ U & how "SPECIAL!"
      U think "luck?"  I say GOD!
      Blessings

    3. Damian10 profile image61
      Damian10posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There is no luck only blessings.  God has a purpose whether we see it or not is a whole other issue.  He loves us and provides for us constantly.

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Amen!
      "And we KNOW that ALL things work together for good to them that love GOD, to them who are the called according to HIS purpose" (Rm8:28)!

  50. HolmesNorton profile image59
    HolmesNortonposted 8 years ago

    Believe you might have a limited view of 'religion' and what you're refering to is the Constantine Bible, and many other 'translations'.  The word 'Hell' is made up, originally it was many different words like abyss, pit, etc.. So when you say you have frustrations 'with religion' you might mean, you have frustrations with the mistranslations / changes to the Bible, which totally agree with.

    1. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Amen. There is a reason why hundreds of pre-bible gospels (and their owners) were destroyed while only four were inserted as 'written by original disciples' - in Greek, not in Jesus' native language. There are now TWO versions of Christianity.

    2. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      BUT "ONE" HOLY SPIRIT (aka GOD) who "leads & guides!"
      Can't you see HE will tell you ANYTHING - DIRECTLY as Promised (Jer 31:34;Heb8:11)! 
      Why do you not BELIEVE? 
      You DOUBT HIS POWER?

    3. Misfit Chick profile image81
      Misfit Chickposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I've told you many times, Norine: I DON'T doubt his power. At. All. I simply no longer believe pagan lies littered thru The Bible intentionally-written to deceive people about the reality of who & what they really are: which was J's real message.

    4. profile image52
      Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Why did JESUS SAY *HE* would "lead & guide us into "ALL" truth"(Jn14:26)? IS HE A LIAR?
      YES *u* DOUBT HIS POWER & continue to prove it by doing what *HE* SAID *HE* would do!  Can't u see u're DEFYING JESUS?HE knew man would chg WORD why (Act

 
working

This website uses cookies

As a user in the EEA, your approval is needed on a few things. To provide a better website experience, hubpages.com uses cookies (and other similar technologies) and may collect, process, and share personal data. Please choose which areas of our service you consent to our doing so.

For more information on managing or withdrawing consents and how we handle data, visit our Privacy Policy at: https://corp.maven.io/privacy-policy

Show Details
Necessary
HubPages Device IDThis is used to identify particular browsers or devices when the access the service, and is used for security reasons.
LoginThis is necessary to sign in to the HubPages Service.
Google RecaptchaThis is used to prevent bots and spam. (Privacy Policy)
AkismetThis is used to detect comment spam. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide data on traffic to our website, all personally identifyable data is anonymized. (Privacy Policy)
HubPages Traffic PixelThis is used to collect data on traffic to articles and other pages on our site. Unless you are signed in to a HubPages account, all personally identifiable information is anonymized.
Amazon Web ServicesThis is a cloud services platform that we used to host our service. (Privacy Policy)
CloudflareThis is a cloud CDN service that we use to efficiently deliver files required for our service to operate such as javascript, cascading style sheets, images, and videos. (Privacy Policy)
Google Hosted LibrariesJavascript software libraries such as jQuery are loaded at endpoints on the googleapis.com or gstatic.com domains, for performance and efficiency reasons. (Privacy Policy)
Features
Google Custom SearchThis is feature allows you to search the site. (Privacy Policy)
Google MapsSome articles have Google Maps embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
Google ChartsThis is used to display charts and graphs on articles and the author center. (Privacy Policy)
Google AdSense Host APIThis service allows you to sign up for or associate a Google AdSense account with HubPages, so that you can earn money from ads on your articles. No data is shared unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Google YouTubeSome articles have YouTube videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
VimeoSome articles have Vimeo videos embedded in them. (Privacy Policy)
PaypalThis is used for a registered author who enrolls in the HubPages Earnings program and requests to be paid via PayPal. No data is shared with Paypal unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook LoginYou can use this to streamline signing up for, or signing in to your Hubpages account. No data is shared with Facebook unless you engage with this feature. (Privacy Policy)
MavenThis supports the Maven widget and search functionality. (Privacy Policy)
Marketing
Google AdSenseThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Google DoubleClickGoogle provides ad serving technology and runs an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Index ExchangeThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
SovrnThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Facebook AdsThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Unified Ad MarketplaceThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
AppNexusThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
OpenxThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Rubicon ProjectThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
TripleLiftThis is an ad network. (Privacy Policy)
Say MediaWe partner with Say Media to deliver ad campaigns on our sites. (Privacy Policy)
Remarketing PixelsWe may use remarketing pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to advertise the HubPages Service to people that have visited our sites.
Conversion Tracking PixelsWe may use conversion tracking pixels from advertising networks such as Google AdWords, Bing Ads, and Facebook in order to identify when an advertisement has successfully resulted in the desired action, such as signing up for the HubPages Service or publishing an article on the HubPages Service.
Statistics
Author Google AnalyticsThis is used to provide traffic data and reports to the authors of articles on the HubPages Service. (Privacy Policy)
ComscoreComScore is a media measurement and analytics company providing marketing data and analytics to enterprises, media and advertising agencies, and publishers. Non-consent will result in ComScore only processing obfuscated personal data. (Privacy Policy)
Amazon Tracking PixelSome articles display amazon products as part of the Amazon Affiliate program, this pixel provides traffic statistics for those products (Privacy Policy)
ClickscoThis is a data management platform studying reader behavior (Privacy Policy)