Do You Believe In Extraterrestrials?

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Deborah Sextonposted 14 years ago
Well, I had to use my smilies somehow!

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  SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  NO!
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  knightrider2000posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  never, will not and will never....
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  cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  if you mean do i believe in aliens who visit the earth and probe people, no.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's why I said Extraterrestrials not Aliens.
  I usually say what I mean so you can always take me literally.
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  cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  okedokee. and i expect there is some sort of life out there. it might be microbes or it might be humanoids or it might be some creature we haven't even created with our imaginations yet. the Universe is just too vast for there not to be. i bet there is some creature on some distant world typing at his computer going "do you believe in extragalaxians" at this very moment
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I've always felt the Andromeda Galaxy which is probably twice as massive as our own, has higher life forms.
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  qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sure of it.
  In fact, they may so evolved that they don't need a planet to survive on.
  Just "space" to live within.
  Somewhere in limitless, eternal space, life may have evolved far beyond the wildest kinds we could imagine.
  Oh yes, THEY are out there!
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  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes in fact this universe is fully alive and not dead like we want to believe.
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theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago
yes, look at our politcians the world over, they are not from the planet earth, they are monsters from other galaxy
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then we have proof they exist!
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Some are reptilians
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQymxLlH … ature=fvsr
  
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  nextstopjupiterposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Let's send them back to where they came from!
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
I have to use mine too.!
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hopefully that abducted Smilie Face won't get
  
  Probed!
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  logic,commonsenseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Don't need to be abducted to get probed!
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brimancandyposted 14 years ago
I love the space smileys. Very cool.

I would hope that there would be life somewhere else. If you could eventually go to whatever planet they are from to see it,
I would hope that it is a better planet than ours.

The only thing I would worry about, is if they are like the aliens from the movie aliens. They might just want to eat us, or impregnate us with their offspring.

A planet full of Yoda-like creatures would be cool. Show me the force! So, I can go up to an employer and say, you will give me a job, and you will give me a raise and call me master! Or, is that the darkside? I can never tell! LOL!
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Tenerife Islanderposted 14 years ago
Definitely! To my way of thinking it wouldn't make much sense if there were no ETs!
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Sara Tonynposted 14 years ago
I'm convinced there's life on other planets. There's so much universe out there we can't be the only intellige--

Never mind.
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Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years ago
Yes

The mathmatical probabilities alone convince me that there has to be more than just us.
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ksha16posted 14 years ago
you bet!
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CMHypnoposted 14 years ago
There are so many galaxies and universes out there, it would be stranger if there was no other form of life than that on earth!
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  Mikel G Robertsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ...or that we were the first.
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  nextstopjupiterposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ... or the last
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Cagsilposted 14 years ago
The possibilities exist that there would be life somewhere else in the Universe.
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shazz01109posted 14 years ago
Yep
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(Q)posted 14 years ago
Creationism would have us believe the earth was the center of the universe and everything in it was put here for our "dominion"

Of course, the possibilities and probabilities of life existing elsewhere is very high, while ET visiting earth is extremely low.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Don't you ever stop?
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Stop what?
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  Paradise7posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, stop what?
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree, with so many planets there is sure to be life "out there"
  As for visits to our planet? Highly unlikely.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Very true. There has been a great deal of study in regards to space travel and how it affects living things. As well, since nothing can travel at the speed of light or faster, we are left with spending many years trying to get to other star systems. Couple that with the problems of living in space and you literally have an impossible task.
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  pylos26posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  I agree...
  
  Yeah (Q)… interstellar travel for humans will likely end up being some sort of inorganic device en lieu of anything alive. Just a question of how smart robots can become.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's not quite right. Einstein believed particles couldn't travel faster than light...
  
  But radio waves already have been made to travel faster and sound may be able to do the same thing.
  
  Plus, there's the VSL theory so who knows? Travel to planets light years away may be possible and even practical someday.
  
  But probably not real soon.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But maybe possible some day, because of the type of universe we inhabit. That's right folks. it's flat! Possibly allowing time to be "bent"
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yep. That's another possibility and there's a theory based on it but I can't remember who came up with it. For some reason I'm thinking it was some university in Texas but I could easily be wrong.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Particles with no mass travel at the speed of light, such as light and gravity. Particles with mass cannot attain light speed.
  
  Nope.
  
  What's that?
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  My point was that he was talking about particles. He didn't say "nothing" can travel faster than the speed of light.
  
  Sorry, you're wrong. John Singleton did it with a polarization synchrotron 2 or 3 years ago.
  
  Varying Speed of Light, John Moffat. Then Joao Magueijo built upon it. It's fascinating -- and just might change physics a whole bunch!
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Nothing can travel faster than the speed of light, only massless particles travel AT light speed.
  
  No, he didn't.
  
  Sorry, but there's no such thing as varying light speed. Physics doesn't change simply because you say so.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're referring to particles again. I'm not.
  
  Maybe you're thinking of the illusions of superluminal velocity in some of his work?
  
  Gee, it doesn't? You need to learn to read. I said "Plus, there's the VSL theory...". That theory still exists. Read Magueijo's book and be amazed.
  
  If you want to discuss this further, that's fine. But it will have to be without using your 'Q' sock puppet and with a better attitude.
  
  Yeah, I didn't think you would.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then, you can only be referring to nonsense.
  
  No, I'm not. You have simply been mislead by crackpottery.
  
  His theory is bunkum so far. He has no evidence. The speed of light is "invariant." You may want to look up that definition.
  
  You can wrongly assert your crank science just as you wrongly assert that I'm a sock puppet.
  
  And, even I was a sock puppet, how is that relevant to the fact that you're wrong?
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  An early contender for Best Post of the Month.
  
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you a fan of physics and/or Singleton?
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No. You simply can't think beyond particles. But keep repeating yourself and stay in your comfort zone. Your one track mindedness has been repeatedly demonstrated through your anti-Christian religion obsession.
  
  Tell John Singleton that since he's considered to be an expert. Better yet, notify LANL (Los Alamos National Laboratory) of your assertion. I'm sure they'd like to know before he's given another award.
  
  I don't care what you think about it, especially since I'm sure your credentials are most likely none -- or at best severely lacking compared to Magueijo's. The point is it's simply an existing theory; why you're unable to grasp that I don't know. But please make a list of all the proven on-going theories in physics.
  
  You may want to look up the definitions of "evidence" and "theory".
  
  First, I'm not wrong; second, you are a sock puppet and I'd say most people know your other ID; and third, I'd simply prefer discussing things with you directly, not through your sock puppet that conveniently takes all the blame for you.
  
  But since you're clearly not going to use your other, original ID, it's been real. Buh-bye.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That would be thinking beyond real physics into the realm of pseudoscience and cranks.
  
  Ah, poor baby, you have toss out ad homs because you don't know what you're talking about.
  
  Why should I have to tell him anything? The scientific method and the peer review process have already demonstrated him to have mislead.
  
  What does LANL have to do with anything? They know you're wrong just as I know your wrong. It's called physics and it doesn't change just because your gullible little mind says so.
  
  I know you don't care what anyone thinks about your nonsense. It is not an "existing theory" because it has not yet attained the status of theory. You clearly don't grasp that simple concept.
  
  You appear to not have done that yourself, evidently.
  
  Wrong on all counts. I don't believe you know a thing about real physics and have been lead by the nose with crackpot pseudoscience.
  
  I have no other ID, and to prove it you are free to contact the admins and have them compare my IP to any others here.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I believe in Creationism but I do not believe we are the center of the Universe.
  But there you go with the sterotype again.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's the bible talking, not me. I suppose you don't believe in the bible then.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Scripture does not imply this and no I do not believe in the English translations.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, it does.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Please give me quotes and the scripture location. Books chapters verses.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Let me make something crystal clear with you. I didn't appreciate that you ran whining to the admins here and had me banned. It's clear you're not interested in debate or discussion. I'm sure that you'll continue to act the same way you do here and will complain again when the whim suits you.
  
  Hence, I am done with responding to you as you clearly are a waste of everyone's effort. Of course, I'll point out from time to time your hypocrisy.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Now when did I have you banned? There you go again.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If it was you that called me a liar and a hypocrite on another thread and I asked Admin to snip your remarks, that wasn't me that got you banned. Again you are not taking responsibility for your actions. If you were banned that is between you and them.
  I am here to DISCUSS but name calling is not discussing or debating. And you are sure it was me?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you did get banned when I asked them to snip the remark where you called me a liar and hypocrite..here you are calling me one again.
  I am a lot of things but I have never been a hypocrite.
  What are you basing this on?
  
  So you can point out how everyone is a hypocrite but no one can point this out about you?
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  Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Bingo!
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So, you joined 2 years ago and have 0 hubs?
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Isn't that amazing, No Face? Are you still spinning thread for Granny? Did Haku ever find peace as a river spirit?
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why nothing at all after 2 years?
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why is that important?
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waynetposted 14 years ago
Only if you need an extra testicle!
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sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago
I'm sure they exist somewhere in the universe. Debra are you an extraterrstrial? I wonder about you sometimes.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  First, I'm Deborah not Debra, they aren't even pronounced the same.
  Second, this is the 4th time you have implied you feel I am strange.
  What makes me stranger than you?
  Every time I ask you to explain, you don't. Then you take another shot ASAP
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Paradise7posted 14 years ago
Oh, sure, why not? Sometimes I think I'M one and have been a changling for YEARS!!!!

Mother ship, take me back home!
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  tobey100posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Believe in 'em? I am one I think!
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K Partinposted 14 years ago
STOP in the name of love!
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sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago
Harrassing The Christians in the forumns. Look you don't give a damn about what we believe and I haven't heard anyone tell you you have to do anything. You spew one slanderous remark after another under the protection of the monitor of the forumns. If we point out your faults in an agressive manner we get banned. So why don't you try using your manners when you talk to another human being.
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  Paradise7posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  sneak, what up? I don't see anybody harrassing anybody on here. Are YOU trying to start something? Don't. Please. We just want to have a little fun.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If it's in good fun have at it!
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  Paradise7posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you, sneak. With respect.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Providing dollops of reality to the deluded is not harassment. True harassment is what Christians do to the rest of us, but you all like to call it evangelism.
  
  I do give a damn, that's why I'm here. The beliefs of Christians are seriously damaging to mankind, and unlike Christians, I actually care about mankind and its future.
  
  No, that's what you do. You constantly toss out such remarks until it comes back and bites you, like the other day when you told someone their mother was coming, but it was explained to you that she was dead for some years. How did your shoe taste, btw?
  
  That's because you are unable to point out any faults and simply toss out insults instead, hence you get banned. I just came off a three day ban myself because I called someone out here on a lie and they reported me. Apparently, you can lie all you want and get away with it.
  
  Why don't you? I offer content, you offer nothing but snide remarks. Big difference.
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  Paradise7posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, jeez, Q, lighten up. Stop with the attack on Sneak, let's not turn a silly little bit of fun into another, yet another, religious argument.
  
  Please, we're all just SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SIIIIIIICCCCCKKKKKK OF IT!
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I have no idea what you're talking about. He attacked me.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah right...it's always the other person's fault.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thats all you're attacks deserve. If you want respect you have to earn it. You have no proof whether God exists or not all you have is a guilty conscious because you know your behaviors are wrong, so rather than man up and take the hit you have to put others down. Look if you think I'm a horrible person don't adress me and I'll offer you the same.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then, you'll keep getting banned for attacking people rather than their ideas. Stop complaining about it.
  
  I'm not looking for your respect.
  
  That's rather comical. I understand completely that your beliefs are mere myths and superstitions because they are exactly the same myths and superstitions of the religions that came before.
  
  Who said I thought you were a horrible person? You're probably a great guy in which we could both share a beer and a have a laugh. It's your religion that's the problem.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The last time I was banned was for asking someone if they were gay or have they lived a gay lifestyle, hardly an attack.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That sounds pretty unfair. Sorry to hear that. I suppose if anyone decides to complain about at post, the admins simply give the proponent a quick ban without reading through the content and the context.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sorry for skipping out I had some home teaching to do. We go out and visit people that need our help and we do offer them a prayer.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No worries.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What do the Christians have to do with ETs? There are other threads where you can attack them.
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seanorjohnposted 14 years ago
Nope.
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goldenpathposted 14 years ago
I believe there are truly worlds without number out there. I think many are peopled with the same social problems, dreams, hopes and love that we experience here. I believe they all vary in degrees of technology. I believe some have advanced to interplanetary travel to other civilizations as we have never seen. Whether or not we have been visited I know not. I believe these things exist and hope for the day when the propulsion will be devised to make such "first contacts" possible.
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Hokeyposted 14 years ago
Sometimes I think I am an alien.
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  goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Try being a 5'3" balding Mormon with a big nose. With the looks and comments I get I am almost convinced I'm an alien.
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  Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The absence of flaw in beauty is itself a flaw.
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  goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Still scratching my head on this one but love it nonetheless. It's a tongue twister for me.
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yenajeonposted 14 years ago
As someone who knows the people 'on top' who market the stuff for Roswell city, its all fake!

"seeing/spotting" aliens seems to be a north american phenomenon that leads me to believe NO
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe they are coming to the intelligent people. You worked on Roswell stuff?? Wow you must be 80-90 years old.
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Hokeyposted 14 years ago
How would it be if we discovered that aliens only stopped by earth to let their kids take a leak
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  goldenpathposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If that's the case I'd say we should have a formal investigation into new causes of acid rain rather than man-made pollution or global warming. Ooops, excuse me - "climate change".
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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Hokeyposted 14 years ago
The only thing that scares me more than space aliens is the idea that there aren't any space aliens. We can't be the best that creation has to offer. I pray we're not all there is. If so, we're in big trouble.
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wyanjenposted 14 years ago

I've read a theory that WE came from a different planet. Original life may have actually begun on Venus.

It is not possible that life does not exist anywhere else in the universe. I'm not convinced the aliens speak English though.
I'm not sold on the two arms & two legs format, either.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As we seem to be made of star stuff, it would be unlikely that those from another planet would be anything like us. We need arms and legs, but other life forms would likely be very different.
  It would seem mathematically highly unlikely that we are alone in this universe.
  We may know a lot more very soon. The breakthrough in understanding dark matter is upon us.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Very soon indeed. The planets that would be habitable are the most difficult to spot. They are not big or bright enough. But for Kepler:
  http://kepler.nasa.gov/
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And Lawrence Krouss explains what is known very clearly.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I had to google him. I have a new friend to study! thanks Earnest!!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are most welcome wyanjen! The BBC science show "Discovery" has a complete set of videos from speeches he has made to the public and his peers by the way.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I read something similar but the theory was that we may have evolved from microbes originating on Mars.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Interesting, isn't it?
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Another one is that Aliens altered the DNA of Apes and that is suppose to be us.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The Panspermia and alien theories don't hold any water, there is no evidence for them.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I never said it did. I was responding to the other posts about other people's theories.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Now THAT would be interesting indeed!
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thirdmilleniumposted 14 years ago
Carl Sagan had surmised about 20 years ago that there has to be life at least on 100,000 planets in our galaxy alone.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That would seem to be logical in light of the number of planets.
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  thirdmilleniumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Carl Sagan might have been right, you know. There are at least 10 billion suns in our galaxy. Each star would have to have at least 5 or 6 satellites going around it. Let us say, some 50 billion planets.
  
  100,000 in 50 billion is one planet in 500,000. Doesn't look too far-fetched, does it?
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Those are big numbers.. big chances. It may be near impossible for there not to be life out there.
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  thirdmilleniumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Let us take pleasure in being awestruck further. There are at least 240 GALAXIES in the perceived universe. That makes it ONE planet in 1.2 BILLION planets with life.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I love Carl Sagan! It's so sad he died so young. (relatively speaking)
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andromidaposted 14 years ago
I hope carl sagan's estimate is right because I also believe that there are some other form of life other than carbon based, but I need to mention carl Sagan just made an estimate, the number of planets having life form in our galaxies or other galaxies can be much more higher if we could know about other galaxies.
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mtsi1098posted 14 years ago
hold on I have to phone home
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quicksandposted 14 years ago
Come to think of it ... LOL! No religion talks about life elsewhere ...
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Hokeyposted 14 years ago
Maybe we are just one big science experiment started by extraterrestrials. The reason we have ufo sightings is because they come here to observe and take samples(abductions).
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I reckon there is one living 3 doors up my street!
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  Hokeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wow! I got alot out of that! lmfao
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Hokeyposted 14 years ago
Babies have big heads and big eyes, and tiny little bodies with tiny little arms and legs. So did the aliens at Roswell! I rest my case
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well, that's that! You can't argue with facts!
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Alrighty then! Case closed!
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Wayne Orvisburgposted 14 years ago
I don't see any reason why not. We make so many technological advancements every day, that if a civilization is a million years older than us they could very well travel through space in some way we haven't figured out yet.
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thirdmilleniumposted 14 years ago
Time travel is is a proven theory. When you travel at the speed of light, time will start traveling backward. There are subatomic particles known as tachyons which at least theoretically, move 1000 times faster than light. If you can transmit something, even a human, on it, it is quite possible to achieve the impossible feat of travel across the universe.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Proven/Theory is an Oxymoron. How do you assume this?
  Time does not go backward. Times APPEARS to slow down.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  At this time, that is more science fiction than science.
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What is a "proven theory"?
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  Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It would be called a "law"
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Greg Cremiaposted 14 years ago
Sometimes I think I am one.
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NateSeanposted 14 years ago
I do believe in the possibility of extraterrestrial life. And from a religious stand point it makes sense. I mean, do you really think God in all of His infinite power couldn't do better than us?

What you also have to remember is that intelligence is a matter of perspective. Far too often people say that a species isn't intelligent unless it can build houses, start wars, or write really crappy movies like Gigli and Space Jam.

To me the Humpbacked whale is a wonderfully intelligent being as are dolphins and sea lions. If you were to find that a planet were full of animals like these would you automatically say, "Nope, not intelligent. Dig in!"
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  Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "I mean, do you really think God in all of His infinite power couldn't do better than us?"
  
  He's not supposed to do better than us, we are.
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theirishobserver.posted 14 years ago
Yes, just look at the Irish Prime Minister
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cosetteposted 14 years ago
hey there
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Stan Fletcherposted 14 years ago
I don't believe in extratesticles. Two seems like enough.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Better stay away from baseball then. Lots of batters get 4 balls from the pitcher!
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Chloe Comfortposted 14 years ago
I believe they exist. We can't possibly be the ONLY life form that exisits in this vast universe. There has to be some kind of life out there other than us.
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Sara Tonynposted 14 years ago
Perfect timing! I log in and I see Mr. M. Sock Puppet is here.

What the heck, I'm in a good mood so I'll waste a minute on you.

My brief responses, in rapid succession:

Nope, no pseudoscience, no cranks.
Yes, I do know what I'm talking about.
No, I'm neither poor nor a baby.
No, Singleton has not misled.
LANL is where Singleton works.
You don't know anything about me.
I'm not gullible and my mind isn't little. (Tsk! Was that a personal attack by you?)
Yes, it is an existing theory.
You have no idea how much I know about physics; you just can't handle it when you're proven wrong.
Of course you have another ID, M!
Checking IP addresses doesn't mean anything. There are plenty of ways you can have more than one. Of course, I'm sure you didn't know that, right?

Have a great day now, ya hear?
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Again, you are free to contact the admins. They will confirm my IP for you. Of course, you probably won't do that and will continue to stroke your ego pretending otherwise since you have no other argument.
  
  You see, that's the thing, you only offer word bites in "rapid succession" without any content and expect us to swallow your nonsense.
  
  John Singleton's work is misleading because he has simply demonstrated phase group velocity, which is not 'faster than light'. If it was, it would violate special relativity. Kapeesh?
  
  You haven't proven anyone or anything wrong, you've simply offered baseless assertions.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You know as well as I do it's easy to have more than one IP address. It would prove nothing so why do you keep repeating the offer?
  
  Huh? That's the first time I did a 'rapid succession' response.
  
  Are you feeling okay? Your digs are really weak today. I'm a little worried about you.
  
  Umm. Wrong. I'm getting the feeling you don't even know who Singleton is except for a panicked Google search. (Which would explain why your information is so limited.)
  
  So tell me, why the need for a sock puppet?
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you and Q husband and wife?
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, GOD no!
  
  You made me spill my coffee from laughing!
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So then, you really have no idea what you're talking about. You have provided nothing but your own baseless assertions.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not at all. I just posted the entire file for you to examine. Isn't the PDF file showing?
  
  Going out for lunch and whatnot with some friends but I'll be back tonight. If you have questions about the file I'll get to them then.
  
  Have a great day, M! Oops, I mean, (Q)!
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The question is, did you understand it?
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes. Lunch has never been very complex.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry about the coffee.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No prob, it was worth it!
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why don't you explain then exactly Singletons work and how he violated special relativity? Please show the math, too.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who the hell is Singletons?
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, really now, you're stooping to that old ploy? Stalling for time or trying to make me go away?
  
  Sniffle. Don't you like me, M?
  
  In any case, I can show his work, math included, but he didn't violate special relativity so what now?
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Did you mean M or Q? I like you, i'm not involved in the Singletons discussion.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  (Q) is a sock puppet of M's.
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marinealways24posted 14 years ago
Maybe we are the reality t.v. they entertain themselves with.
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(Q)posted 14 years ago
Here you go - feel free to show me where in these papers faster than light has been achieved?

http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/0709.1283

http://lanl.arxiv.org/abs/0710.3364
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You really think that will stop me?
  
  Fortunately for you, I found a nice neat PDF file so you can read everything yourself.
  
  You know there's no way to extract one single sentence or paragraph to explain what you're asking, nor can everything be summarize in short enough form to post here.
  
  So feel free to read this in its entirety at your leisure.
  
  http://www1.physics.ox.ac.uk/~ardavan/p … 9.1283.pdf
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It states right from the get go they are calculating the gradient of a "rotating" superluminal pattern source of light. It is the rotating source of light that is key here.
  
  For example, if you take a high powered laser beam and sweep it quickly across the surface of the moon, it will "appear" as if the reflection of light we measure back is moving "faster than light" across the surface. It isn't because the pattern gradient has been dispersed, which Singleton refers to as "non-spherically decaying radiation" which he is demonstrating and referring to a specific observation of quasars.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Remember when I asked you if you were being confused by superluminal velocity illusions? ("Maybe you're thinking of the illusions of superluminal velocity in some of his work?") I believe that's what you're doing.
  
  Maybe we should look at phase velocity vs wave velocity first, yes? Is that the crux of the matter?
  
  The moon reference is an example of the basic principle involved but it doesn't go far enough to explain the polarization synchrotron technology.
  
  (Keep in mind that rotating sources of electromagnetic radiation with speeds in excess of the speed of light in vacuo have been created in a laboratory.)
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, the fact remains you really have no idea what you're talking about.
  
  Maybe YOU should.
  
  Yes. it does.
  
  No, that is the claim you'll read in pop sci magazines, not the evidence produced in a lab.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I see. So I was correct about where you took a left turn but you refuse to stop and ask for directions. Okay then, enjoy your trip.
  
  Uh-huh. Well thanks, but it's not necessary -- though I do appreciate your "people skills".
  
  And so on and so forth...
  
  And yet, it's in the lab results. Hmm.
  
  It's been fun but it's time to move on. Take care.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, you weren't correct. You were quite wrong with your assertions. You did not provide any evidence to back them up. You were mislead by crackpottery and regurgitated it here.
  
  Well, if you actually wanted to learn something, you probably should take the time to do so.
  
  But, you never provided any results whatsoever, only your uninformed assertions were here for us to see. Where are these elusive results for faster than light? Nada. Zip.
  
  So, you've had fun posting pseudo-science nonsense and are now walking away because you can't substantiate your nonsense or support your assertions.
  
  Of course, that's exactly the type of ill-informed crap the scientific community is forced to endure all the time. Cranks and crackpots coming out of the woodwork to steal away valuable research dollars to work on their pet theories.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  C'mon, Q-Baby! Lighten up a bit!
  
  I'm worried about you. Really. I've never met anyone who seems as bitter and angry. Is there anyone or anything you don't hate? Seriously, that stuff is just non-stop with you and that can't be good.
  
  Relax and take care of yourself, okay? I know you think I'm kidding, but I swear I'm not.
  
  Anyway, I hope you have a great day.
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  Flightkeeperposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think he's happy unless he's arguing with someone. It's very strange.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So, rather than learning something or trying to support your argument, you instead turn to tossing out fallacies about me to feel superior because you haven't the capacity for reasoned thought and discussion.
  
  You feel compelled to lie instead of sticking to the subject matter because you've been caught pretending to know what you're talking about when all the while have been lead astray by fools and fakes.
  
  If you really need to worry about someone, have a look in the mirror.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're so very wrong it's not funny; it's very sad though.
  
  Don't ever call me a liar again.
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  scamcorderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah that dude Q, seems to have all the A, no? Must work at Caltech. I'm not saying in which department though.
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  scamcorderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, I'm so kulit talaga! Haha
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, I don't have all the answers, my friend, no one does. But, I know enough to understand when people are being led astray by crackpottery and cranks, or when they imagine more than they think.
  
  Are you trying to make me feel guilty for having an education and using critical thinking skills?
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Shadesbreathposted 14 years ago
Of course there's life on other planets. To think otherwise seems tototally self-important, like humanity represents the best, the greatest achievment the universe <cough>god<cough> could do.

Right.

We are not alone. Just lonely.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yup, that's the way I see it too.
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mega1posted 14 years ago
Yes, I am one! I grew up from being a sweet little baby, overnight, into this devilish me!
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CreativeOrangeposted 14 years ago
Yes
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Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago
YES!!!!!!
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waynetposted 14 years ago
I've seen a few extra testicles, usually on chubby faces with huge cheeky ball sac cheeks!
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Dave Mathewsposted 14 years ago
If you mean by extraterrestial beings, "Angels" my answer is Yes. I believe that we were of a Spiritual or Angelic form to begin with, sent to earth to perform certain assignments and will one day return to our Spiritual or Angelic forms at some pre-destined time.
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  Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That being true,? I would think that extraterstials would not be time travelers but dimension jumpers.
  Like when Elisha ask for God to open Elijha's
  (vice versa ?) eyes that he could see the angels that were all around the cabin.
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  Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This is what I believe too. and no space ships.
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  Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I love SiFI ...here I go ,, or is it?
  I've always thought that it was a time warp kind of thingie. That is where another dimension would be.
  Time is relivent to the speed of light. The speed of light is not absolutely consistent. Therefore a fuzzing over between timelines could be possible.
  The speed of light slows down when entering the gravitational forces of the planets. When it leaves the gravity of the planet it resumes it's origional speed. All that is necesary to jump to a diffrent dimension is to figure out what causes the light ray to resume it's origional speed after leaving the gravitional pull.
  Upon resuming to its origional speed it would be in a diffrent place in time than the light ray that it had been traveling side by side with moments before.
  And when it had been slowed down within the gravitional pull of the planet; it was in a diffrent dimension entirely.
  
  Anything that happens naturaly in nature can be artifically duplicated. That is how they do it.
  Now everyone known that I am as crazy as I think that I am.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The speed of light is invariant and is a result of the permeability and permittivity of space. In other words, space has determined via it's own properties a speed limit on particles traveling through it.
  
  Wrong, the speed of light remains constant. What happens is that the light gains energy when falling into a "gravity well" and begins to shift to the blue spectrum. It moves to the red spectrum when leaving the gravity well as it loses its energy.
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  Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I do not remember where I read that, but will search and attempt find it again.
  It is commonly understood by science that light can not escape the gravitional force of a black hole.
  It would seem logical that when a light ray is passing by the hole that depending upon the distance from the hole it would either be pulled into it or escape.
  What about those light rays that pass far enough away as to not be pulled into it yet too close to go on its way uneffected?
  I'll research this question later but I know that you already have the answer. So could you enlighten me?
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It is called the 'event horizon,' Jerami. Light follows paths through space called "geodesics" - it is these geodesics that are curved back towards an object such as a black hole, but it could be any object with mass. The event horizon of a black hole is the point where the geodesics curve back towards the black hole, hence the light follows those paths back thus not escaping the gravitational field.
  
  The light DOES NOT speed up or slow down, it remains at a constant speed.
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blondepoetposted 14 years ago
I am open to all possibilities. Just because we may not see them does not mean they are not there.

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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I found a lot in HP. and I'm still finding.
  
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  blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes I could swear the bloke next door is one. He turned green when I gave him a taste of my Marble Cake. I accidentally used a cup of bi-card instead of a cup of flour in the recipe. Yikes.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The problem is you can say that about anything, leprechauns, the tooth fairy, etc. And, when there isn't a shred of evidence to suggest we are being visited by aliens and mountains of evidence to support the fact that they couldn't possibly be visiting us, why would we bother considering it and kowtowing to the believers?
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  blondepoetposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No I don't believe in the tooth fairies, not a lot of those have been spotted in the world.
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  (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then, you have equal reason to not believe in visiting aliens, because not a single one has ever been spotted of them, either.
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waynetposted 14 years ago
No...I only have two testicals, tried looking for the extra one and gave up!
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
I will believe in ET's when there is some proof. Like a lot of things people believe in, there is no proof that I have seen.

If the universe is flat as the latest theories would indicate, then there may be ET's, but until someone provides proof, why believe in them?
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