is science the new religion?
- jomineposted 14 years ago
0No, science is not the new religion. It's just a modern tool of convenience.
- just_curiousposted 14 years ago0
The fact that someone may be entirely ignorant regarding science and how it works and winds up believing it on faith has nothing to do with science and everything to do with that persons ignorance. Try to distinguish this obvious flaw in your argument before making silly assertions about science.
Again, the faith one has in their gods is entirely different from the faith one might have in an intelligent, well-informed hypothesis.You might first consult a dictionary before making such comments.
Good, that is what believers got-in god's plan!!
What nonsense John. It is not possible to experience something that does not exist. What you are experiencing is simply an inability to separate fantasy from reality based on emotional needs you cannot fulfill.
It is very possible to experience what you experience without needing to fall into the delusion you have fallen into. Generally - people who are extremely needy fall into this trap. They are unable to accept reality for what it is and create an elaborate fantasy that they have some mysterious ability that is missing in others. They convince themselves they are not responsible for what they say and blame it on an Invisible Super Being telling them to say things rather than admit they are just a little speck of nothing like the rest of us. They then wander around pointing at them and accusing them of being anything from "spiritually dead" to "Satan whisperers" in order to cause conflicts. Sad really.
Hi Mark, what would the forums be without you?
Hopefully we will again find out, if I remember correctly they were places where frank and open discussion could take place without frivolous nonsense being spouted.... get personal Mark, it's good for all of us!
Anyhow, none of what you spout actually pertains to me, and as you cannot account for ever being spiritually alive, you seem disqualified to speak on the matter, whereas I have been spiritually dead, then spiritually alive with the wrong spirits, and finally spiritually alive and empowered.....by the Holy Spirit.
My daughter (9 years old) commented what a nice name you have, as she said, both names in the bible.... Mark and Knowles (which she misread as Noel) and started singing the carol that goes with it!
I guess in Hubpages you really are the first Noel!
Anyhow, good to see you spout a few replies.
John
No. I have no problem with reality. The good Lord gave us a brain to use. Curiousity is not a bad thing. I realize that the word theory, as used in science, refers to the fact that after some verification the hypothesis is considered to be true. I am simply saying that there is much we don't know and to state, unequivocably, that many theories on the formation of the universe are simply that at this point would be counterproductive to the search. We do not know
We were given the ability to figure it all out. I believe it is our right to do this. I do think that when someone draws a line in the sand and says 'There it is. Case closed.' it is little different from dealing with the Inquisition. Science has not claimed to have reached that point. I don't think we will in our lifetime. Open minds are so much more productive than closed ones, in my opinion.
We look at the stars and see they're moving away from us, therefore the Universe is somehow expanding. We look at the past and wee see the cosmic microwave background:
Which is the oldest picture of the Universe (more on that here).
Simply put, the big bang theory is derived from that. We only get to live around 80 years, over a century if we're lucky. It's complicated to grasp concept such as this or evolution, because they happen over veeeeeeeeeeeeery long periods of time, and the only evidence is the passing of those processes through time.
- Sophia Angeliqueposted 14 years ago0
honestly think you have the characteristics of a troll
i don't think i can stoop so low to call anybody names!!
- jomineposted 14 years ago0
science is the study or explanation of interaction and relation between objects.
i am here dealing only with three concepts- big bang, relativity and quantum physics. they are considered science, but are actually pseudoscience just like religion-irrational
when i say "is this the new religion?" i am referring only to the above three.
big bang- is actually creation in disguise-creation ex nihilo.
if rationally nothing can be created by god, nothing can be created by singularity either.
relativity and quantum are two other forms that reify.they think of concepts and treat it like objects. hence there is these space contraction, time dilation, virtual particles and so on..
Anybody of normal intelligence should be able to understand science and we should be able to illustrate science with diagrams. when we reify it is not possible and is the reason masses don't understand the above. religion used to do it. the liturgy and holy books were all in Latin so that the common folks will never understand and will not question. now science is doing the same, instead of Latin they use reified concepts and mathematical equations to make others believe that they are discussing something profound. science does not need equations to explain. why anybody need an equation to show a tree exists?
yes after being unquestionable for a decade now people are questioning big bang, but is not the case with the other two and hence this forum!!We could make it even easier than that, purchase a GPS and you're done. A GPS will NEVER work correctly unless it has been programmed to take both gravitational and velocity time dilation into account.
We can never understand God. So God is NOT the wrong answer, either!
Finally, we have a RATIONAL ATHEIST and Ph.D, like superwags, who contradicts himself by discounting God,... but like a "True Theist", he turns the other cheek and accepts Self-Creation
BTW, superwags....I'm still waiting for you to give us the definition of "Universe", which you claimed not to understand,.... but authoritatively/conveniently used it to form an irrational argument about Self-Creation. I expect it on my desk by 9 AM sharp!
Yes....your religion gets funnier with every new post.
Since when?
Sorry that you've not taken the time to understand very much about the world around you and the fact that you appear upset that scientific theories can't be spoon fed to those who are too lazy to make an effort to understand but instead will write it all off as nonsense.
Funny how you don't even understand something, yet will dismiss it out of hand, just like a religious believer.
I honestly reckon stardom is the new religion, and all the celebrities are all the Lovely Gods that we see and Holly wood is their hang out
think about it this way, we have millions/billions books and magazines printed every week in their honour, depicting their deeds and their noughty behaviour,
people are absolutely crazy about them, follow them, worship them, want to know everything about them,
and with their fame they have money, which we all know is power, with enough money to can get anything you want, and if it doesn't exist yet you can always invest money into the creation of it
Stardom is the new religion people, most of you are already believers, as for the rest of you, it's just a matter of timemoney is already a religion
but saying that, celebrities have been around for ages aswell
you have a vaild point LeanMan
these two religions shall either apose or should join to make one mega religion
All of this and more is readily available for you to understand any time you feel the need to make the effort.
Will you make that effort?Is there some reason you felt the need to insult me personally? Why do you believers do that all the time rather than dealing with the subject matter? Does it make you feel good? Is is a Christian thingy? Do tell?
"that light is a particle and wave at the same time?"
Yeah, that's a hard one to wrap one's brain around. Do I know why or how it can be both? Nope. But I have seen and duplicated half of an experiment that shows that it's both. I couldn't demonstrate the other half because it relies on being able to fire one photon (particle) at a time, and I've never had access to such finely tunable equipment. But you can read about how it works here.
"in the process also illuminate me what a wave is!!"
One of these:
Yeah, scientists are so wishy-washy.
Perhaps some tv documentary provides answers, but I usually don't get my information from tv.
A GPS satellite has an onboard clock that is accurate to 1 billionth of a second (nanosecond).
With Special Relativity, the satellite is moving much faster than our clocks on earth, hence there is a difference of about 7 microseconds in which we see the satellite clock ticking slower. With General Relativity, and the affects of gravity, the satellite clock is ticking about 45 microseconds faster.
So, 45-7=38. Hence, the onboard satellite clock will constantly tick 38 microseconds (38,000 nanoseconds) slower than the clocks on earth, thus syncing the satellite and earthbound clocks.
Hope that helps.Here is a very good description of the GPS system and some explanations as to how they overcame several interesting relativistic problems.
http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0306/0306076v2.pdf
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