Just wanted to share this. Someone pinned or "flipped" one of my hubs on Flipboard, a magazine site. So I've had a ton of traffic all morning. I made my own magazine and the traffic magnified even more! (currently 16 visits per minute). Might be worth looking into as an alternative to Pinterest (which is still my greatest source of traffic)
So did you create your "magazine" based on all of your own interests or did you keep it simpler than that to facilitate sharing what you create? I'm setting one up and there are so many things I want to follow, but don't know if less is more or not in this instance.
Hi Kylyssa. I (selfishly) pinned, flipped (or whatever it's called) lots of links to my hubs here. Hopefully Aunty Google won't raise her eybrows and it doesn't affect the rankings of my best hubs. Anyway I didn't put much thought into it and simply created several "magazines" corresponding to the categories of my hubs. Traffic keeps coming and flips are being "reflipped". The traffic may be transient and just last for the day. However I've had some pins go sort of viral on Pinterest and hopefully something similar happens with Flipboard.
I have never gotten much traffic from Pinterest, although I absolutely love it... Flipboard seems to have fantastic potential both from the reading and writing perspectives. Impressed so far.
Thanks for the info, I'll have to check it out.
This is really interesting. I've using Flipboard as a news source for months now. I never thought about creating my own magazine before. Thanks for the tip.
Thanks so much for the tip. By doing this I have increased my views to about 20 a minute.
Good for you Sally! Very high traffic may be transient, but it's the reflips plus whatever else readers do with links to hubs which may be beneficial in the long run.
How's it doing now? I followed your example and had a great rush of interest but now, after 24 hours, it seems to have dried up.
The interest, while it lasted, was in only one of my hubs.
It's very nice of you to share this information with HubPages writers.
Thank you so much.
Hi, Eugene. What's your Flipboard profile? (https://flipboard.com/@....)
I like to pop over and view your mag and see how's it's done. Just joined Flipboard after reading your post :-)
Did you give them permission? Does Flipboard now have the right to store, reproduce and disseminate your hub? See terms of service.
Sometimes when something seems to good to be true, it is. UnnamedHarald is bringing up some good points. Back when we were encouraged "not to put all our eggs in one basket" I wrote on many sites. It took months to get my own work back, and several said I gave them the rights to my work. I closed my account. I feel it's too risky with the niche sites just starting to turn things around here.
Since I didn't read the small print, yes I probably did.
However aren't their terms similar to the Hubpages TOS?
"You grant HubPages a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license, for as long as Your Hub is displayed on HubPages and for a commercially reasonable time thereafter, to reproduce, publicly display, publicly perform, distribute, modify, adapt and publish the Hub Content solely for the purpose of displaying, distributing and promoting Your Hub on or in connection with the Service. By posting Author Content on the Service, You grant HubPages a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual, irrevocable license to reproduce, publicly display, publicly perform, distribute, modify, adapt and publish the Author Content on or in connection with the Service. You may remove Your Hub Content from the Service at your discretion. You may not remove your Author Content from the Service. HubPages may preserve and store Hub Content (including, for a commercially reasonable time, Hub Content you have removed from the Service)"
Whether it's an issue depends on what they mean by "content". The only content I posted on Flipboard are links to Hubpages or niche sites, and Flipboard redirects to these sites, it doesn't republish my hubs. I don't mind whether they store or do anything they like with my links.
You are correct. And that's kind of the point: I have already given HubPages the exclusive right to show my hubs. Until or unless I remove a hub, I cannot grant the right to show that article's content anywhere else. The content of my hub is still mine, hence my ability to delete it and take it elsewhere-- in that order.
Your comment about "content" is indeed the key. Until I receive assurance from Flipboard that "content" is limited to the links, I will stay away from them.
The right to delete content isn't built into their TOS (unlike it is in HubPages'), so caution would be advised in creating articles on their site. However unlike sites such as Wikihow, the ability to delete isn't denied.
I had a lot of trouble with Infobarrel about their owning my work. I finally got them to delete my account, but after several heated emails.
I got a non answer about deleting my account at Flipboard, but figured out how to do it last night, so if what I got is an example of how they get back to you and don't answer your question, I don't want anything to do with them.
This is incorrect, UnnamedHarald. You have granted HubPages FIRST rights, not exclusive rights.
HubPages will not accept material that is already published elsewhere. However it does not penalise you if that material is SUBSEQUENTLY published elsewhere.
In practice, it's not in your interests to publish elsewhere subsequently for various reasons - but I repeat, HubPages will not penalise you for it.
Marissa, as I said in an earlier post, if I want to publish my hub article elsewhere, all I have to do is remove it from HubPages (and wait a few days) before posting it elsewhere. HubPages won't and can't penalize me for doing that because, as you say, they only have first rights. But while it is posted on HubPages, it is exclusive in the sense that it cannot be published elsewhere at the same time.
@UnnamedHarald, you are wrong. There is no rule that says a Hub cannot be published elsewhere at the same time. There is a rule that says it must be published on HubPages FIRST, but you are then permitted to published it anywhere else you like without penalty.
Like I said, there are very good reasons not to post it elsewhere because it's counter-productive - it dilutes or even destroy the traffic to the original Hub. However it's not "illegal" under HubPages' rules.
Would it not be seen as duplicate content.
Marissa, here's a quote from the HubPages FAQ:
How can I transfer content to HubPages from another website?
In some cases, you may want to move content that you have created on another website over to HubPages. While we do not allow duplicate content on our site, we do allow content that is no longer published on another site to be redirected or moved to HubPages. For example, Google Knol has been discontinued. Users that have written knols can move their content over by redirecting it to HubPages. Below you will find step-by-step directions for moving your content to HubPages.
Seems pretty clear to me.
You are talking about the opposite thing to Marissa.
Hubpages *first*, then elsewhere. You are referring to content that has already been published on another website.
It's irrelevant to the discussion about Flipboard anyway, as they only display a photo and a snippet.
If HubPages allows you to move content from a website to HubPages (after removing it from that website), there is no "HubPages *first*, then elsewhere" requirement.
Okay, this has become totally unproductive, and has departed from the Flipboard discussion, so I'm done.
You said, "But while it is posted on HubPages, it is exclusive in the sense that it cannot be published elsewhere at the same time."
That's the point Marissa was disagreeing with you on. As long as HP have it first, they won't penalise you for duplicate content. All that will happen is a copyright symbol will appear on your account next to the hub.
Then you went off on a completely different tangent about content published elsewhere *prior* to it being on HP.
Two different things.
Also: ( I feel like it might be smarter to punch myself in the face rather than get involved with this discussion, but here I go.) Just because HubPages doesn't take action against writers when their content appears elsewhere it does not mean it is encouraged or wise to post your Hubs somewhere else while they are published here.
Any Hubs that appear elsewhere on the web, whether they were stolen by someone else or put there by the copyright owner, have the potential to reduce or completely eliminate traffic to the original. That's not good for HubPages or the content owner.
I know you and Marisa are both well aware of this, but I'm just clarifying for the sake of any other eyes on this thread who may get some strange ideas. Re-posting your Hubs while they are live on HubPages = bad idea.
But as you say that's not the same as posting to a sharing or social site like Flipboard, and this conversation has gone well off the rails.
Your quote refers to transferring content TO HubPages FROM another site. The rules for taking an EXISTING Hub and putting it on another site are totally different.
But they DID republish my entire articles that were posted. What gives?
Flipboard looks like a great site. I guess I am dumb but I have not figured out how to get my Hub Pages posts on it yet. Will keep trying. Hope it keeps working for you. My Hub Pages articles do not do well so I need a lot of help.
Hi Norlawrence, on Flipboard add your Hubs by copying & pasting website url's with the pencil icon, refresh the page on Flipboard to see the Hubs you've added. Hope this helps.
Hi Norma, if you haven't got any hubs on the niche sites, it's probably not worth putting any stuff on Flipboard from the main HubPages site as it doesn't seem to be topic tagged. And if it isn't topic tagged, it doesn't show up when someone clicks on a topic. Maybe eventually Flipboard will add a facility allowing users to do this. It seems pretty stupid that it can't be done at present, and the automatic system is fallible.
Thanks. I only have one in a niche site.
This might be more HP's fault than Flipboard. If staff sees that niche articles are doing great on Flipboard then move more of the regular hubs!
Out of close to 800 hubs I only have one on the niche site and on top of that a site with a"great name"
Hi Luis, How on earth did you manage to write so many hubs?
Been writing for around 5 years and the first three to four years I published about one hub per day. Most of my articles come from personal experiences. This includes photography (over 30 years experience) and short stories (over 15 years language arts teacher).
My article with the lowest score is the only one on a niche site. Does not make since to me.
I'm pretty sure niche site selection is traffic vs. score based. However several new hubs I published were selected, which would debunk that theory since their traffic would be very tiny.
You are right, selection of EXISTING Hubs is largely traffic-based. However, they are assessing new Hubs as part of the QAP and that selection is based on quality, since obviously traffic is an unknown at that stage.
I've been surprised that they moved about a third of my hubs to niche sites, and I am making more than I ever made here. I'm not sure how long it will last, but it's nice for now.
So I put three old pieces I had from other sites which had been taken down ages ago, but still have anything I wrote ever on a flash drive. Out of the three, two were also chosen for niche sites, and they are "new" to HP. So that's pretty nice.
I thought when this niche thing began, they said they would make three passes at our older stuff to see what good hubs were already here, or could be good with a little fixing up. But now I'm not sure, since they are taking my old hubs, and also the new ones I put up. I have had some trouble with them taking my series stuff, as you know I write a lot of them in groups of 12.. But they have been surprisingly agreeable about taking a whole series
I'm thinking of writing a fiction book based on a true story, and in the Fall want to take a fiction writing course. I remember you calling me a "writerly writer." I'm also getting paid to contribute an astrology piece each month for a blog. It's exciting. I hope all is well with you.
I'm fine, thank you. We are just back in Australia after a year in England. Although it was good to see my sisters, nieces and nephews, I hated life in the UK and got quite depressed - most unlike me. I'm so happy to be back "home" again, we are still very disorganised but I'm looking forward to getting my life back on track and getting back into both writing and dancing.
Glad to hear you're doing well. Some of my Hubs have been moved to niches as well and some are doing well. The flamenco ones aren't, but I think they made a bad decision moving them to a niche site that's all about playing games, so I didn't expect too much.
Glad you are back home, where you are happy to be. I had a similar experience moving from the USA to the Netherlands for 3 years.
The people were wonderful etc... but I became depressed. I missed our shared national consciousness, in moving to a new country. Things in America we take for granted everyone will know, like "going postal," that at home you can then easily joke about or make a quick quip, are meaningless to the natives of your new land. No one knows what I am talking about when I reference The Beaver, Beverly Hills Hillbillies etc...Ultimately it was isolating, plus my first husband was controlling and preferred that I not make friends; everyone was unsuitable for one reason or another. Perhaps my bad taste lol.
@Solaras,the funny thing is that I am British originally - but I discovered that having lived in Australia for over 30 years, I had become Australian and no longer felt comfortable in my original culture.
Come to think of it, I never felt entirely at home in my original culture in the first place, which is probably why I ended up travelling the world!
I get on best with Irish people for some reason. Perhaps because they know how to drink. If I can't find an Irishman I will settle for a Scot or an Antipodean.
The English are hard going. I don't mind the arrogance (I've got that myself) it's the ignorance I can't take. No other population has such a fine opinion of their position in the world and so little understanding of it.
The Celts give a lot of thought to who they are (having been mightily oppressed) and that makes them a lot more interesting.
The Aussies make me think of England in the fifties. Perfectly charming.
Well, at least you got to see your family. Once you are back in the sunshine, you will feel better. Take care.
Thanks for shaing the tip, I am very new at all this! I apologise if this is a silly question but what is a niche site? Also I'd your clipboard all links to your hub pages or is it mixed with flipped pages from others?
Again thank you for sharing your knowledge and tips
A niche site is a site which deals with only one topic - in quite a narrow sense.
HubPages is NOT a niche site. It's an article site with lots of different categories.
HubPages is moving from a horizontal portfolio mix (ie lots of articles in lots of different categories - and specialising in nothing) into a conglomeration of new and seperate category sites - each of which focus on different aspects of one subject (eg vehicles; sports; arts and crafts).
You can see announcements of new sites going live here http://hubpages.com/forum/category/6632
The new HubPages sites have been described as "niche sites" however they embrace too big a topic to be described as niche sites as such (eg. HubPages creates a site about Arts and Crafts while a niche site would actually be more specialised and would focus on e.g. portraiture).
The new sites use the same software as HubPages and they are also owned by the same people as own HubPages. In reality it's a different way of slicing the same categories/cake.
By way of contrast:
* A more typical niche site would relate to eg a specific type of vehicle or a specific sport or a type of art
* independent niche sites are typically created by experts or enthusiasts in their field on their own websites and have one author (unless created by an organisation or society which has several expert contributors).
You can have lots of niche sites on the same topic (think fan sites!) however the ones that do well and that Google rates are the ones which:
* are tightly focused
* have the best content
* achieve the most authority - typically associated with authors who are experts in their field.
Hope that answers the question.
Even those from the niche sites, while tagged, are often incorrectly tagged...so finding them would be difficult for a reader who had interest in that topic.
Eugbug: I'm a bit confused. I thought I'd try to start a magazine and thought Flipboard only posted the first few sentences and then referred the post back here. Instead, the entire article is being published. What am I doing wrong?
The post or article (link) when clicked by a viewer takes them to where the article is originally published be it HubPages or a niche site.
Take my magazine for example:
https://flipboard.com/@luisenrique3vhr/ … 71rt24jhy.
Click on any image/article within the magazine and you will be taken to see the article in its entirety on either HP or the Felt...whatever site.
Is one of your hubs somehow being displayed within a frame on the Flipboard site? I think Stumbleupon does something like this. (probably not a frame, I don't know what the technical term is, but on Stumbleupon, their menu bar is displayed on top and you stay on their site with the content of the linked page displayed underneath)
When I or any of my friends have clicked on an article within the magazine, they are taken to my hubpages account/hub. Yes they all seem to be displayed withing frames; one large one, a few smaller ones followed by another large one and so on
I discovered what I was doing wrong. I was doing a direct flip using the little icon rather than using the little pencil thingy. I have corrected it now, and after spending all afternoon trying to figure out how to work the site, I think I have a handle on it.
My problem is that, at least for now, I am having trouble finding things to move to my magazines other than my own work because there is very little out there that directly relates to my topic. I'll see how it goes, but it seems none of my magazines are showing under any topic page because there basically isn't one for what I have. Any suggestions?
Is it legal to flip from these sources? They are professional magazines with copyrights attached. I have some hesitation about doing this since thinking more about it. I know we give links back to their magazines, but don't want to step on any toes here.
Question: Is there a way to ad Amazon to this site so that we can sell products? I saw a thing about advertising, but couldn't click through.
Also, some hubs are coming up occasionally without their photos attached. How can I fix this problem?
Don't know about Amazon, where on the site did you see this?
Is there anything different about the hub or specific photos which don't appear? Flipboard support seem to be fairly good at replying to queries so you could ask them, however I can't get a straight answer from them about why pages aren't topic tagged or whether it's possible/will be possible to do this ourselves. They say that if we are more active on the site, there is a greater chance of our posts being tagged. This sounds odd.
There's a thing at the bottom of the Help area that says something about info for advertisers, but when you click on it, nothing happens. As far as the photo thing...no, there is nothing different about the two hubs where I can't get photos to appear. As for getting photos tagged by being active, it would be easy to spend all of your time on that site...don't want to do that. Will take what I can get and move on...just as I did with Bubblews.
I rarely do well with social networking sites, but two days ago I decided to give this new site a try. I had a heck of a time figuring it out, and still have not ironed out all the kinks.
I set up 8 RV magazines, each of which covers a different aspect of this general topic. I really expected nothing to happen, but this morning, one of my AxleAddict articles, which yesterday only got about 47 views, which is about par for the course, showed up this morning with 1698 views and right now is over 2,000!
Today I got busy and added a number of different articles to my magazines, including many that are not my own but do relate to my general topic.
It's hard to tell when looking at their analytics what magazine articles are producing, but so far, other than that one they're not producing very much.
If nothing further happens, that's OK, because 2,000 views in any one day, especially on only one article, is a lot for me,
Thanks for this info. Once I got used to using the site, I decided that it's really kind of fun... similar to Pinterest.
Here's something to think about: If you get a huge number of views from Flipboard for an article, but fewer than that on normal search views, would the team not unfeature your article for lack of traffic? It is my understanding that you must have the majority of your views from search engines, so that even if you have great views like some of you have had here via Flipboard, would those then not outweigh the search views? Just sayin'
Thanks for the information if contents of your meg zine are interesting and useful for public i may share on my social media pages.
Thank you for sharing this. Im new here so I will check into everything helps, right.
How does Flipboard work? I joined a set up a magazine and I posted links to my Hubs but nothing. How do you get people on there to follow you and flip your Hubs?
I would search for Flipboard tutorials and help and then follow the links. All will be revealed:)
Andrea: You don't! The trick is to only use hubs that are on any of the niche sites and then add posts and videos about the same topic from other posters. You have to post something that is on a topic that people have interest in and that is popular. Otherwise, yours stuff will just sit there. However, I have seen that it takes at least a day or two for your posts to "click in".
eugbug: I really want to thank you for sharing this info. At first I didn't want to fool with it, but last Thursday decided to give it a go. Although I'm still learning, I must say that I have had a huge uptick in views. The first day one of my articles got 1697 views. The most ever for one hub in one day. Today one of my hubs got 5500 views! I almost fell off the chair!
I also noticed that my Google and Pinterest views are up...Pinterest especially. Those last have almost doubled from what they were. Don't know the connection, but am glad to see it!
While these numbers don't stay that high, in the following days they still are higher than before, so my numbers are way up, my sales are way up and the money is way more this month than it has ever been.
Even if things slow down, it's been so much fun watching all of this. I fact, those numbers really shocked me. I've never had big ones like that due to the limitations of my target audience.
Anyhow, thanks again. I'm glad I listened to you!
You're welcome! Glad you got all those views, I ended up with about 18,000 extra the Sunday before last, but frustratingly CPM plummeted the next day while traffic was very high. I still have a trickle, but just like Pinterest, traffic will likely periodically jump again as someone with lots of followers flips a page, and then it gets repeatedly "re-flipped".
I wish I could get a handle on how topics work on the site. For instance you say there is no RV topic (camping, road trips, travel trailer seem to be the nearest topics). It seems they have a fixed number of topics, so how do they create new ones, and what would be the impetus for adding topics?
Having just looked at the weekly online magazine I can tell you that my page views increased by a whopping 78%, and it's been less than a week since I first posted on Flipboard.
Now the views have dropped significantly, but I'm still getting more than 150 extra views per day plus from that site.
I'm getting the feeling that what they present is "rolling", similar to Yahoo's front page...so when you post something new that is properly tagged and is of interest to people, it gets tons of views for two or three days and then slides down the hierarchy to make room for the next ones.
I would think the only way to keep views up would be to keep posting new articles and also adding those of others to your own magazines.
There is no real way to know which hubs got good views aside from the main ones when you click the edit button on a magazine, and there seems to be no way to properly tag every article.
Obviously this is a new site that has glitches, but hopefully they'll make improvements to it as time passes.
That's true about the rolling nature of displayed content, but since we can have magazines which are equivalent to Pinterest's boards, it should be potentially just as good as that site as a steady source of traffic, especially if the content posted is useful and evergreen and users re-pin it. Something I haven't checked, does Flipboard's "Cover Stories" and Pinterest's feed show re-flipped/re-pinned stuff or only newly added content?
Good to hear you got a lot of views. I tried Flipboard but have not got anything yet. I may have done something wrong or my articles are not interesting. Good luck in future.
Once you are signed in is there any way to change language preference? I am not an English speaker and in my country Flipboard is not available in English. I can find no way to change the settings, and since all of my HP articles are in English, they would probably get no traffic if I post them in a non-English magazine.
Thanks for letting me know if you see any way to change language on this type of social media.
I'm a bit confused, do you mean that when you enter Flipboard dot com into your browser, you get a localised Portuguese version of the site?
Edit: You are probably being re-directed to the local Brazil site, I think you put something like /NCR or no_direct at the end of the URL to force the .com site to display, will look this up or maybe someone else can help?
What's the URL which shows in your browser?
The url is https://flipboard.com/
It is the same site you are discussing here, but I guess they think they are being helpful since we are all stupid and do not know how to read any other language. (Pinterest has recently added a .br to the end of their site too, but we all navigate the same home boards.)
I tried the /NCR and no_direct but nothing shows up, just a white screen.
Thanks so much for your help.
Which browser are you using? You should be able to turn off re-directs in the settings, but maybe it's not actually a redirect (since flipboard.com is showing in the URL field) but some other form of localisation setting, displaying the site in Portuguese.
I have tried it with Chrome and Firefox and the results are the same.
The same thing happens with Yahoo, but there is a little area where you can select which country and language you want to participate in. Does your Flipboard pages not show anything like that?
Which browser do you normally use? There is a NoRedirect for Firefox which prevents HTTP redirects.
From my perspective, you are not missing out on anything. I got a little runup on my personal blog, 50% increase for 1.5 days, then nothing more. Perhaps certain topics do better on Flipthing than dog topics. I have had no flips or shares.
Better luck to you, but don't sweat it if you can't get it going on. I have not seen TT2's incredible jump in traffic.
Thanks Solaras, my traffic is good but of course I felt like I could do a little better.
I do know that page views through search engines pay a lot better, but it is always nice to see a few thousand extra, even if they do not pay that well. (When one of my hubs gets shared a lot through facebook or pinterest and I see my views go up a few thousand, it does not make that much difference to the bottom line.)
I guess I will be happy with the results from Pethelpful!
Solaras, I figured out a "work around" for the language problem and am not getting thousands of views to some of my magazines. I would like to add some of your articles but am not sure how to find your page.
The dog name articles, even on PetHelpful, have been getting almost no traffic on Flipboard.
You will find them at themodernbark.petgiftsonline. for all the good that will do either of us lol! I think I got a few 5-10 views the day I posted them, now everything is lost in the uncategorized category.
No, I meant I wanted to reflip the articles you have already posted. What is the address for the magazines on Flipboard that you have already posted?
This might be the address - https://flipboard.com/@barbarafitz3h30/ … -9vmjh159y
Has flipboard made your "traffic sources" on HP yet? I put some of the articles on my magazines this weekend but mostly from your blog.
They've made it to mine. It's #3 this week. Not bad.
When I first set up my Flipboard, one hub took off like crazy, pushing Flipboard to #1 on my traffic sources. But that settled way back and once again Google traffic is in first place.
Eugene, just wanted to say thank you for starting this thread about flipboard and bringing it to the attention of all of us here. It's looking very promising.
You're welcome Glenn! Did you get any traffic from Flipboard for your non-niche hubs? I still haven't figured out how to get these categorised.
I have tremendous traffic to one particular hub that is in a niche site, and some pretty good traffic to another which is also in another niche site. None of the others in niche sites seem to be getting any traffic (or too small to measure). And as you noticed, none of the non-niche hubs are getting any noticeable traffic from Flipboard.
It's hard to say if it has anything to do with niche sites or not. Many of my hubs that are in niche sites aren't getting traffic from Flipboard. Just those two are doing really well. But that makes it all very worthwhile.
I've looked at my stats in GA for the last few weeks and the non-niche hubs have received absolutely no traffic. So this is probably because they weren't topic tagged. Since they don't show up in Google searches either (wonder why?, Pinterest pins do), the only way non tagged articles can be discovered is when someone looks at your mags.
You seem to have noticed something I haven't. How do you determine that a hub got topic tagged and tagged to where? I'm just creating separate magazines for each topic and placing the hubs in the appropriate magazines. Is that different from what you're talking about?
The topic is underlined as in the photo below. If your flip isn't tagged, no topic will appear.
Wow! I just looked and I see the one that is getting a ridiculous flow of traffic is indeed tagged in a topic. The others are not. Thanks for that important piece of the puzzle. Now I'm going to have to investigate to try to find out how we can get other things tagged. I'll report back if I find out anything.
I'm definitely curious as well, Glenn.
Andrew, I just posted a followup with my latest research. I don't see any way to tag things ourselves. Only hubs in the niche sites get tagged, and that happens automatically. You don't have control over it.
Unfortunately, I noticed in a few cases that they are tagged in the wrong topics.
Yes, my hub from pethelpful on Greek names for dogs is tagged under mythology. So I am wondering how they choose a topic tag, because that did not come from anything the staff here setup on Pethelpful.
They seem to just extract keywords from a flipped page and match them up with their set of preset topics. The results are less than impressive!
So if it's not that the niche sites have some cunning topic tag technology on them, then why are the HP articles not getting tags or traffic? I wonder if HP has not already been banned in some way or other.
I just did some more research and found that many of my niche hubs are tagged in topics. But the others are not. So you are definitely right about that. And that makes all the difference.
I also noticed that all the tagged hubs are getting traffic from Flipboard today. I didn't notice that yesterday because of the one that was getting an extreme amount of traffic. That's all I saw in the Real Time view. But now when I looked at the individual stats I see Flipboard listed in the last 24 hours. But only with the niche hubs.
The problem is that the tags have to match the topics, and some don't!
Right. I made a mention about that too, earlier. One if mine is totally wrong.
I just sent a long email to the Flipboard team about these issues, so we'll see what they have to say. Clearly, they're losing money for themselves as well as us by not addressing these issues.
That explains alot! Mine are either no tag or incorrect topic tags. Tough town over there.
I've had a few that are tagged in the wrong topic...and I mean really wrong. Must be a glitch in their system. I would contact them with specifics and ask them to re do misplaced articles. It's to their benefit to do so. I've had several emails back and forth with them. They always answer within a few days and have been very gracious.
I only had one niche hub incorrectly tagged. I let them know about this a few days ago and they said they'd look into it, but haven't done anything yet. I'm more interested though in establishing what's the formula for getting a page tagged. Where do the keywords have to be located? I tried putting them in the titles of text capsules, but this didn't seem to work.
It seems the selection for tagging is by randomly choosing a keyword from our content. Unfortunately, the bot sometimes picks the wrong one. I have a hub about selling your home. You would think it should end up in a real estate category. But it's listed in a topic about living rooms. I had mentioned something about setting up the living room to show well. And that is where they got it from. There is presently no way to control that.
I'm wondering why some items don't have photos and others do. This happens a few times with each of MY articles when placed in a magazine, and even when I delete and return them, the same thing happens. Also, when I edit a hub and re do the photo, only the original photo shows up.
Did you try refreshing? I found that I need to do that after each change I make to any magazine in order to see the change.
Also, did you know that you can select the image you want for the main magazine image. The middle icon on each hub does that. The one that looks like a square next to a vertical line. You only see three icons when you click edit.
I refresh after every addition and do know about choosing a cover image, but you need an image to appear before you do that. This does not always happen.
That's strange. It works for me. I had one new magazine that had a blank for the image. I just selected one of the hubs and it's image became the magazine's image when I refreshed.
I'm talking about articles within the magazine. For every magazine show, there usually are two or so that have no images, and I can't get them to load!
Oh, I understand. I never had that trouble. I wonder if it happens if the image file size is too big. Next time it happens, check the size of the file you uploaded to hubpages.
Mine are always done with 1000 pixels being the smallest of the two size. Some are larger, but HP wants this as a minimum for their images, so that's what I give them!
I've checked the images on the few articles that didn't display them. Some were large and some were small, so I don't think it's size.
What is the file size of the smallest one that doesn't display? I'm trying to determine if there is a limit to what will load.
The ones of mine that don't display vary in size from 109k to 22k
That's extremely small. I have some that are over a meg that display fine. I also have small ones around 20KB that have no problem. So it's not the size that's causing you trouble. I wonder if it's the pixel width?
One of mine is 1.2 Meg and 1000x1000 Pixels
Another is only 211 KB but over 1000 Pixels width.
Both display fine.
What is the pixel width of the one that's failing to display?
Maybe they don't display them, if they would become pixilated. Some magazines blow up the image really large.
I have the same problem with one of my images.
Sally, I took a look at your magazines and I see what the problem is. When you create a magazine you should not paste the URL into the magazine description. That is ONLY for text and it's optional.
After you create a magazine you can add items by copying and pasting the URL of the hub into the field where it says "write a comment or add a website to you magazine."
For the heck of it, I copied the URL from one of your magazine descriptions, put it in my browser, and was able to get to your hub. Nice hub. And I left a comment.
But now you need to fix those magazines. Edit each magazine, remove the URL from the description field and add them as items instead.
You DO have one magazine that you did right (Wet Felting Tutorials). But it still has a useless URL in the description field, which you can just remove to make it look good to a user.
Hope that helps.
Glenn, are you setting up a separate magazine for each of your niche hubs? I have over 100, so I have been combining many of my hubs into one magazine--when they are similar, of course. Do you think that is a good idea, or should I try to set up more magazines?
Dr Mark, yes I set up a separate magazine for each topic since I write hubs in many different categories. You can do whatever you feel is best to organize your type of writing. You can always change things later, adding more magazines and moving hubs around.
Glen, you really are very kind
I had not realised I had done that incorrectly. Will check it out tomorrow and make the corrections. Thank you so much for the visit to my Hub and the very nice comment. I tried to flip one of your articles but have not quite figured it out yet!
I just wanted to add my thanks to Glen's for posting this thread. My own traffic has surpassed all expectations. I still can't believe it.
That's great about your hubs doing so well on Flipboard and hopefully even if the initial traffic decreases somewhat, bookmarking plus shares will keep the traffic coming. I have found that my Pinterest traffic has grown over the years.
I'm not particularly interested in felting, but I like crafts in general so I'm going to setup a craft magazine and share some of your flips. Which ones do you think I should add?
That is very kind of you. I would add any of the ones I have in feltMagnet, my two latest ones on making boots and the felt beads for jewelry, also the cat/kitten cave, the hanging basket (sewing and gardening in the same hub) multiple coin purses. You won't go wrong with any of the ones in feltMagnet. I think I have around 20 on there to choose from and they are all getting traffic from various sources including facebook where I belong to some closed groups which share felting ideas.
I need to start adding other people's work to Flipboard but have not quite figured out how to do it effectively. I only want to promote work which I really admire. Do you have any advice on that?
Pinterest has been very good for me over the years too.
Just wondering if you are seeing any significant traffic with this site since the time that you first posted.. I am still getting plenty of views, but only when I add new hubs (at least new to Flipboard). It seems like once an article is posted there is a surge and then it falls off significantly.
I had a huge surge the first 4 days...more than 17,000 views! Yesterday I had 35. I'm getting a few each day now like that, but even when I add articles, nothing seems to happen with them...even if they are from the niche site! It's very disappointing. I do think one of the problems is that they do not appropriately tag many articles, if at all, and numerous images are missing, so it's hard for people to find articles. I have read that the way to encourage views is to read and comment on other people's work, but frankly, I'd rather spend my efforts here, where at least there is some return for my efforts.
I'm getting about 20 views per day. It's frustrating how most of the time posts don't get tagged. I can't seem to get any of my blog posts topic tagged, and none of the hubs on the HubPages site either.
I came across something unusual yesterday when I attempted to flip a webpage using the FlipIt toolbar button on Firefox. I received a message to the effect that the owners didn't permit the page to be flipped.
It has become clear that the focus for this site is the reader, not the author of articles. They must use bots to determine which articles are boosted based on current trends, which is why they probably don't bother tagging or always using photos on submitted work. Apparently readers simply choose their topics and are notified when good ones will appear, so people don't really have to do any searching. I'm afraid this is a failed experiment, at least until that site makes some improvements. With 90 million viewers, I doubt they're too worried about us peons!
I see a few of my articles when I look in other people´s pages about dogs (and one was posted under science so it got a lot of new readers) but I am still not sure how to find which of my submitted articles have been accepted and "flipped".
You will see that in the top right corner. The bell symbol tells you when something has been flipped. I have zero for everything, so I am not sure whether the counter even works. HPs magazine had a paltry number of flips and followers - 7 and 3 respectively, if I recall correctly.
I do not think that bell symbol is working properly. I had a lot of flips the first day and the page was full of one of my health/science articles. Yesterday, I had numerous flips and even saw a few of my articles flipped on the "Dogs" topic page but have nothing new showing on that bell symbol.
I will try to put some more articles from your profile page onto my magazines. Let me know if you have any traffic and we can try your other profile page.
Just tweeted your article about Hypoallergenic Dogs. I do not have a lot of followers on that site, however, so am not sure how it will go.
I can't tell if it did anything for that article, if that tells you anything. Thanks for the flip and trying!!
There should be a small red dot at the top near the bell when there is some activity. I have noticed it a couple of times.
I had that red dot the first day but I opened a bunch of reflips up and it disappeared. Since then I have had many reflips (I am sure since I have seen them on a topic page) but the red dot never came back and I can not find out who reflipped all of those articles.
Press the white bell and you can see all the flips and followers in a drop down menu.
I have plenty of hubs on a niche site but it seems like once those are gone the surges will be a thing of the past. No idea why they are not all getting posted, since those that do seem to get a lot of traffic. I did notice that underneath the title it does not even state the author name, just number of followers and articles. That is disappointing too.
My name appears at the bottom of my pictures on every post!
I'd like to know what you are doing to make that happen. I'm lucky to even get my images transferred over on many of my posts. Name? Never happens!
Odd thing is that a couple of my images were not showing before but they are now. Have you been refreshing your page when you upload each Hub.
How do I find your pages on Flipboard? I would like to take a look.
Things are different depending if you view magazines with the Flipboard app or direct via the site.
I took a look at your magazines and I see your name above all your flips when using the site. I looked at Sally's and her name is above all her flips too. She said it's below the images, but I see it on top, same as yours.
But then I looked at both your accounts with the app, and neither of you have your names appear with your images. So the app works differently. However the images do appear in all cases.
A few days ago I noticed some images were not loading. But that seems to be fixed. They must have had a server problem.
If I look at my magazine my name is at the bottom. Think I was confusing a flip with a magazine picture. Don't see any names on flips.
Are you using the app or viewing the site direct? Weird how things are different in all cases. I even discovered differences when viewing magazines direct with Safari on my iPad vs Safari on my Mac desktop.
I just looked again at your magazines, I don't see your name below the magazines as you do. But I do see your name above your individual flips. Same thing with Sondra's (TT2) Flips.
So you are seeing things different. I'm curious to know how you are using it? App? Browser? Mobile? Desktop? - they evidently treat each one differently. Makes it complicated. I keep forgetting how to edit a magazine. The app has a gear icon to edit. But the site has a link called EDIT. Very messy in my opinion.
Yesterday I got a small surge on one article that has been just "sitting" since I started posting there. Got 280 views! This all seems very random to me, but may be worth leaving stuff on there just for the random views you get.
Still getting views but mostly when I add a Hub. I am tweeting hubs from Flipboard and got a response from Flipboard yesterday and today via Twitter, thanking me for posting some of my photos and saying they were looking forward to seeing more, so all looking positive.
With E-Bay going now and less Amazon Adverts, I think it is going to be up to us to promote our work. Wonder if Staff recognize how much effort we put into getting traffic.
Ebay will no longer be available on HP, but then again they have not been paying much for a very long time.
Did you see any traffic from Flipboard? I put several of your articles on there, but mostly from your blog since I thought you would prefer that. If you did not see any increase in traffic to your blog, I will try to flip some articles from your HP profile page.
(Edit: Christy posted some info on the Ebay thing about an hour ago.)
Are you just copying and pasting the URL into Twitter? Does Twitter show up in your traffic sources?
There are Twitter accounts associated with the niche sites (well I assume that they were created by HubPages). However they have no followers (well very few), no followees and haven't tweeted. I wonder why? Anyhow, personally I think Twitter is a dead loss as a marketing tool unless you are a celebrity. The stream just flows too fast and tweets get drowned in the flow.
I would get a few to my dog blog, and several times one of my blog articles was retweeted and I would get a few more. Still not many, however, and the Google search engine is still a lot better, in my opinion.
As you said, Twitter is not much of a marketing tool for me.
Many of my tweets have had tens of thousands of impressions each, but with only a few link clicks, a couple of retweets or likes (which aren't much use!). I think many people are just collectors and like to decorate their Pinterest boards or clock up their tweet counter without following the links in tweets.
I regularly tweet my hubs and now my Flipboard stuff. I prefer it to Facebook though I belong to a few closed felting sites and receive a lot of shares and views from there but don't like to do much on my personal pages. The nice thing about joining a site like that is that the people reading the stuff really do want to read it because it is their interest.
Twitter does not show up on our stats but Flipboard does so don't know it works as well, am sure it does not but am happy to try.
It seems that articles I place on my mags from other people do not carry tags at all. However, one article of mine that is from my blog is tagged. Then there is the one about RV wheel base ratio safety that carries no tag, but is from a niche My black water sewer tank cleaning article wound up under the topic of "Blackwater", which is totally off base and is probably why it's getting no views. I had placed it in a mag called RV Maintenance, but obviously their bots didn't catch that. I'm going to make a list of issues and send it to them tomorrow because this type of error is damaging all of us as well as them.
You could also suggest to them that "Recreational Vehicles" or "RV" be added as a topic.
Are those other people's hubs In a niche site? If not, that would be the reason why they are not tagged.
Something that may help us is a fact I just discovered. You can add an article of your own, where relevant, to more than one magazine! I have always had articles that fit into more than one category, so this is a big plus for me. If you have them also, this added exposure may help you to get more views.
I often do that too on Pinterest and it helps to generate "parallel" shares.
Do your flips show up in a Google search?
Don't know. Haven't looked. I can't even figure out which articles, save the initial big ones, are even getting views. I'm down now to 50 or so views a day from tens of thousands per day last week and can't figure out why! I do know that it's very hard to place my magazine articles on that site where they will be seen, so in the end, this may not work out too well for me. Also, I added a few mags from other people that I'd like to delete, but can't figure out how to do it!
I struggled to delete one of my own, never mind other people's
I eventually deleted the whole magazine by going to edit on the image and to the delete button on the left-hand side half way down the page near the stats. Not sure if that helps but perhaps someone else has figured it out already:)
To unfollow a magazine, you click on it and then click on where it says 'Following' at the top.
Flipboard is a great resource for reading and research. If you follow some news sources and topics that you are interested in, you create a Pinterest-esque board. There are some really good writing magazines, plus all the major newspapers and news outlets have a presence on Flipboard. The more you use it, the more you'll want to use it.
I've set up a Google alert for my particular topic, so I can add new articles and stories each day. I drop one of my own in now and then. Number of readers is increasing daily and, hopefully, some traffic is being funneled to hubs, blogs and other places I write One magazine is plenty for me to deal with.
To delete your own magazine. Click on your magazine. Then Edit, bottom right, On the left you'll see the option to delete.
No need to delete the entire magazine. To delete just one item from a magazine...
• Click the stats icon on your profile to go to your analytics page.
• Select a magazine from the left column.
• Click "Edit Magazine"
• Select the item you want to delete.
• Click "Delete" at the bottom left.
I like the Flipboard. It is a good place to show the articles. Thank you for the suggestion mister eugbug. You are wonderful. Because, you like to share your success with the writers.
That is great. You must be doing everything write. I have tried Flipboard and nothing. I am doing something wrong or my articles are not good or of no interest. I know my titles stink. Never have written good titles. Hope you keep getting traffic.
I think your hubs are a lot more interesting/helpful/useful than mine though
Don't know about that and lucky you with over 3 million views!
You'll get there soon enough ... mine are from "years ago" mostly. I get nowhere near your 11k views/day ..... nowhere near
I'll give the flipchart a look ... maybe a go... but it's difficult as I struggle to know where to focus with what I've already got
Well that's just today (usually its about 1800) and traffic will be probably back to normal tomorrow. You have lots of food hubs though which should do well on a magazine format site.
Sounds intriguing... I will have to give this a look. Thanks for the tip.
No problem, views are currently 20 per minute and its still only 3.29 EDT. Most of my traffic comes in the late afternoon from the US.
I've got a magazine set up, and tried to add some links (for my prominent martial arts hubs):
https://flipboard.com/@andrewsmith40in/ … -mnh5k6gpy
What am I missing?
Hi Andrew. What happens when you click on the pencil icon at the top right of the screen (in the desktop version, haven't checked out how to do it in the app)? You should be able to click and select your magazine in the dialog box which appears, and then paste the URL of your hub into the space where it says "Write a comment or add a website to your magazine"
Thanks... that's what I tried doing, but nothing is showing up. :-/
Oh wait, I've got it! Thanks for the tips:
https://flipboard.com/@andrewsmith40in/ … -mnh5k6gpy
Your magazine looks good and it looks like mine does so I guess you got it right
I finished making my own magazine because why not. I did notice I had some traffic coming in from Flipboard so it'll be interesting if creating my own will make a difference. It's worth a try though.
OK, so I just started a Flipboard, made a few "magazines," and put links to a half dozen or so of my hubs in each of 'em.
...so now what do I do? I'm not quite sure I "get" how this site works yet.
Well it seems to be similar to Pinterest as regards pinning (they call it flipping). When you add a URl, the system categorises the content based on text in the page. This doesn't always work though and a story may end up uncategorised. I haven't worked out whether it is possible to recategorise a story. A user can select categories of interest and when they launch the app, their profile is displayed plus a grid of chosen categories. Once they click into a category, selected stories are presented to them in a pinboard format like Pinterest which they can thumb through like the pages of a magazine. These seem to be in chronological order but if a story is reflipped, I think it gets bumped up to the top of the list.
So in other words, now that I've got a handful of posts up, I should step back and just let things percolate for a while?
Something like that - And watch your victims rolling in on Google Analytics Real Time!
What you forget is that you've got a combination of:
- skills/knowledge to share that people are looking for
- lots of it.
I've just got "stuff I write" and, to be honest, my stuff won't cut the mustard to get very far..... but I'll do it etc as you never know.
Google Analytics does not seem to specifically name Flipboard on the Acquisition, Social Overview site like it does for FB, etc., but it does seem to pick up the views from Flipboard.
One thing I don't understand is once I've made a magazine, how do people know to find the articles? Through natural browsing? Seems like there should be a search box for topics. If there is I can't find it.
Also, there is something on the set up that wants you to install a code on your website's HTML...don't think we can do that with HP but if I want to on Blogger, how would I do that? I don't like messing with their codes.
No, we can't do anything with the HTML of our pages on HubPages (apart from very basic editing).
Copy the code snippet from the Flipboard site to the clipboard, then on Blogger, go to design, layout and add a gadget. Pick HTML/Java Script and paste the code from the clipboard into the content frame, giving the gadget an optional title. Finally, save the updated layout. (You could also preview before saving the arrangement if you don't want to mess anything up)
Google Analytics specifies the source of a click on a Hub posted on Flipboard as "Direct", which I think is how bookmarks/favourites are seen by Analytics. So maybe Flipboard isn't categorised by Analytics as a social site? Also when I search for the URL of a flipped hub, there is no result for the link on Flipboard, although Pinterest comes up in the search. Strangely none of my posts on Facebook appear either.
I guess that to get categorized you should include at least a keyword in the intro that ties it to your category(ies).
All my introductions have the word photography and so far everything is categorized.
Probably, I tried that on Sunday but it didn't seem to make any difference, must explore further. What's really odd is that when I submitted a URL to one hub, the text displayed was for a totally different hub on HubPages, probably a bug parsing the URL.
Nope. That doesn't work either. I have RV in just about every one that I've placed on Flipboard, and some are winding up in very strange places.
I had a go ... it's not intuitive.
I've created a new mag (private so I could faff about/see what happened etc).
I then clicked the pencil/edit button and clicked on my new mag ... and then I typed in a whole domain url (as it said to post a webSITE) and got nowhere, so then tried with an individual url of a post and the screen cleared and it just said "No Content".
So ... very confused and lost with it
I'm sure it's easy ... once you've got the hang of it, but it looks like a bit of a pig to understand at first.
EDIT: Ah, then you click on the green "A" top right and you see your mag
EDIT 2: I was on a roll ... added 3 more to my magazine, making a total of 4. All smug, I checked - and only the first one's there. Bummer. Thought I had it sussed
EDIT 3: Ah, a refresh shows them all.
Find one of your hubs, click and copy it and then go to Flipboard. Click on the Pencil and create a Magazine, using the plus sign. Click on it and name your Magazine. Paste an appropriate hub into the description area and you will see a magazine appear with a blue picture over it with a tick. Then you just post it. Hope I have not left anything out:)
I'd done that... I couldn't work out how/where to see it - it turned out to be the top right green "A" button.
All sorted now.
Now just lacking in anything with an attractive photo - always my downfall as I struggle to get appropriate/good photos and end up just chucking something in that's better than nothing, but not magnificent
Now I've just got to wait for some traffic to become mildly and vaguely interested enough ....
I have a stupid question; is it okay to click on your own hubs? I was under the impression that I shouldn't b/c Google would drop my articles if I did. I also thought maybe Hubpages wouldn't allow it.
You can click on your own Hubs, just DO NOT CLICK ON THE ADS.
Way cool and thanks I refreshed and now they show!!! Let's see what happens.
Well my flipboard has been up for about 38 minutes and I have a few hits already. Not bad
I'm getting some from Flipboard too, I wonder if it'll end up like Pinterest.
Looks like this site has potential but given HP writers dismal history of being declared persona non grata on social media sites it is worth proceeding with caution.
I don't know what Flipboards spam policies are but it would be worth checking.
Most of the hardcore spammers and desperate marketers (Seth Grodin acolytes) seem to have disappeared from the forums but someone will probably go overboard and ruin it for everyone else.
Agreed that's why it's best to not go overboard. I'm really curious to see how traffic does during the week as Sundays traffic wise are the lowest for a lot of hubbers.
Agreed. The fastest way to ruin social media for all of us is to spam these sites. I remember a couple of temporary HubPages bans on Pinterest at one point and they are the source of over half my traffic. I was panicked.
Well, that was yesterday, now it's this morning.
2 magazines, 8 articles (5 + 3).
Some people's stuff is simply ... underwhelming
But I'm patient, I'll drip feed a bit more in.
If you follow the Reddit advice, 8 of your own articles should be accompanied by 72 articles sourced from other sites.
Flipboard might not have a much of a spam policy yet but if it starts to be a favorite venue for self promoters, it will develop a response soon enough. Or end up like ...
I forgot its name, lol, but it was a sharing site that used to be worth billions before it sank under the weight of its spam. It was a more successful version of Stumbleupon, if anyone recalls it.
No, it was a massive site, one of the biggest at the time. Everyone posted links to their hubs there. HP probably did not sink the site on its own but it made a significant contribution.
Reddit was smaller but more savvy. Any HP URLs were quickly consigned to the hall of shame.
Is there no one left on this forum who can remember back 5 or 6 years? We are all doomed, lol.
Was it SheToldMe? I was just starting here 5 years ago, but I vaguely remember seeing forum posts about that site at the time...
So that's why I never received traffic from Reddit! Plus they have a habit of shadow banning accounts.
Did you get traffic from first day of flipping posts or days later ?
Almost immediately. Traffic has dropped dramatically overnight as expected but still higher than my organic traffic.
Well I signed on yesterday. I received well over 200 flips (visits) with one magazine and 16 articles. We'll see how it goes today.
Dug it up with a search for 'getting backlinks 2008'.
It was Digg. Once valued at $200 million (not billions). Sold into oblivion for a half a million shortly afterwards, relaunched in 2012 as a news aggregator (I never knew) and apparently similar to Flipboard.
Might be worth poking the reanimated version.
Anyway, I seriously suggest people follow the same routine as Pinterest and Reddit and post plenty of non-promotional links along with their own stuff.
Agree about posting non-promotional links. Especially with Penguin still in effect; I removed all of my links from Redgage (not that many) after I learned more about Penguin. I hesitatingly used the site in the first place because back then a lot of people were advising writers to use it.
At any rate, using Pinterest judiciously does seem to be effective, so I agree that using Flipboard the same way might be effective.
I also avoid Tumblr for fear of getting excessive backlinks and running afoul of Penguin. Don't know if I need to be so cautious, but that's been my reasoning. Seems to me organic backlinks work better anyway.
An update. Yesterday I created (4:30 PM my time) one magazine with about 16 articles. I received about 298 views. Today (10:29 AM my time) I have over 300 views from the site. Looks too good, but here's hoping.
BTW I am following Will Apse's advice and postings other non promotional links.
I have 3 magazines, 11 articles. Links added for about 4-5 different sites ... not one visitor from it to anything.
My stuff's just unwanted, forlorn ... poor little words
It's been a little less than 24 hours for me so far... and already I've racked up more views than I've gotten out of several years on Pinterest ....
...so even if this turns out to be a one-shot deal and the traffic drops off a cliff tomorrow, I got no complaints. It was well worth the experiment!
OK...I'm not going to say for fear of jinxing.....Oh what the hell....ium, I have over 600 views from that site alone today!.....Praying that it's not a fluke. WIth that said...the presentation is really nice and professional looking.
I agree it does look really nice and professional. I have had a 300 percent increase in views, most of those from one hub.
Agreed, I love the page flicking simulation of the app.
Has anyone figured out how or whether it's possible to recategorise stories if they haven't been categorised initially?
Would someone be kind enough to go to Flipboard and look me up... see if my hubs are displaying correctly? I'm not sure I've done this right; I haven't had much traffic from it
It looks way different from what mine looks like and it did not take me to your hubs. However I did share it on my Facebook and Twitter.
Thank you so much! I'm trying to fix my board now, hopefully I'll figure it out before the end of the day... looks like I might not have them categorized. I can't find you on Flipboard Luis, but I'll look for your hubs on F.B. and Twitter.
They seem to be displaying. If its any consolation, I haven't had any traffic from those hubs of mine you flipped either, possibly because they weren't automatically categorised. I tweeted Flipboard to see if it's possible to do this after submission. I don't think articles appear anywhere if they haven't been categorised and the only way they can be viewed is if someone views your magazine.
Thank you eugbug & revolutionbjj for your help I'm so un-techy, I'm surprised I figured out how to write & publish here on Hubpages (though it did take a while)... uhg.. Hopefully I've categorized my articles on Flipboard; thanks again
Any response from them on this? After looking thru the stuff I posted yesterday, it would appear that a number of them don't have a "category" attached.
If you created a magazine and posted links using the pencil, then just refresh and it should be fine. However at the beginning when you started to sign up you should have chosen some categories.
It doesn't seem to matter what categories you choose. Submitted URLs are automatically topic tagged without an option to choose where they end up.
They suggested sending a screenshot to support from within the app. Have done that so just waiting for a response. Most of my hubs didn't have a "topic tag" as they call it, added.
No, not so far FatFreddy... I put my hubs in my 'dream interpretation' magazine, and I don't see an option to categorize them or tag them; stats show 0.
Here is what I have been slowly finding out; I have been posting links to other sites (not just my own) as the rules stated. This brings my views down but not by much and I contribute to the site instead of being greedy and only postings my links. So far it seems to be working fine.
Here is the link. See for yourself: https://flipboard.com/@luisenrique3vhr/ … -71rt24jhy
Luis, how did you find your link for flipboard?
Just go to your Flipboard public profile and copy the URL.
Not sure if this will make much a difference for my hubs but it does seem like a great place to compile what I like to read! Pretty interface too.
Got 90 visits to a new hub overnight from flipboard. I included about ten other links in the magazine.
I reckon the easy way to choose good links is:
Google related keywords
use search tools to get pages published in the last month
select a mix of titles from authority sites and populist link bait sites
I might get into Flipboard, 90 visits is nothing but it is proof of the principle.
I began an A/C, but decided it might be like Reddit, and don't really want to be involved in another site, I have my own, and get clients from there, and it might get to be a time waster. I've had 49 hubs moved to niche sites, and since it's always slow in summer, hope they may do even better. I've had a huge spike in earnings since mid June, when they began moving them, and am fixing the names on Pinterest boards.
Anyway, I tried to close the Flipboard A/C, and it says you just log in and hit the Cancel button at the bottom. I've tried a few times, and I can't close it. Does anyone know how?
I have a bad habit of jumping onto sites before I read all the directions! And I believe it's like Reddit, if you post too much personal stuff, you may get kicked off.
If anyone can figure out how to close the A/C, will you help me? I chose too many topics when I have really one major niche and a few minor ones, and it just keeps telling me that my password is wrong, when I know it's not. Thanks.
I've expanded the breadth of my 3 magazines a little, by including content from other sites.... but maybe I need to spend more time being more selective over what else I choose because a further 24 hours on and ....
3 magazines, 15 mixed links
Are you linking to HP or niche site stuff?
Just wondering if HP has a bad name there.
I notice that any hubs I have added from HubPages.com aren't topic tagged, only those from the niche sites. So maybe HubPages has a bad name and they don't categorise articles from the site. The automatic topic tagging isn't always effective, one of my plumbing hubs has ended up under the "Valve" topic with lots of gambling stuff, which is bizarre!
Might not be a bad filter to keep out the 'join today, get a hub through QAP and spam the world with it tomorrow' crowd.
Anyway, thanks for the heads up.
Same thing happened to me, one of my CD-collecting articles got tagged under "The Rolling Stones," even though the piece has nothing to do with them... I just mentioned their name once somewhere in the text...haha
You might be right. The hub that I have under the niche site has gathered the most views and the others that are still on HP have received very few hits.
Something I find interesting is that google is sending more traffic my way than usual, even after the flipboard traffic is declining,
Yep, I think you may be onto something here.
Now that I look closer, the hubs that got almost all of the traffic for me were niche-site picks, the ones from plain ol' HP have pretty much been ignored.
It would seem that for now, at least, the smart play would be only to post your Hubs that are on one of the niche-sites (which in my case is only a small percentage of my stuff), because they seem to be the only ones that Flipboard categorizes and throws into the general-population mix. Stuff linked from theh plain ol' main HP site doesn't seem to go anywhere or do anything except sit on your profile page and get ignored.
Food for thought y'all. Post sparingly, and only post the cream of your Hub crop. Don't carpet bomb them with everything you've ever written.
One of my other accounts has gotten thousands of visits from this site over the past few weeks. It's a nice bump, but I had nothing to do with it. Like most of these sites, its my opinion that its best to leave them alone and let other people share your content if they like it.
As I'm sure most people know, sites like HubPages have gotten completely banned from sharing sites in the past. We were even banned from Pinterest for short period of time. If everyone suddenly starts spamming this site it may end up that nobody gets any traffic from it anymore.
Food for thought also. Do what you must.
Banning is the most likely outcome. It only needs a couple of hubbers with no understanding of what is involved to get the niche sites banned. And then those natural surges in traffic from disinterested posters will be gone.
But once the genie is out of the bottle, that is that...
In forums like these, there is no point in telling people 'just say no'. Better to focus on harm reduction.
I think you are right Will. I managed to delete the accounts. If everyone just posts their links from the niche sites, we could ruin that and be banned, just like Pinterest. And judging from the lack of answer I got for asking the administration, It's Bubblews all over again.
I've always been just a little wary of apps as having the potential to carry viruses or spyware. I'm not familiar with Flipboard. Is it certified safe to use? (As safe as any, I might add?)
Flipboard has a regular website. You don't need to download any apps if you prefer to use it on a computer.
I tried signing up yesterday on a computer, the site seems to think you are annoying if you don't use the app. I signed up and they kept telling me my password was wrong. I tried again today, and opened another account, but the old one is there and I can't delete it. They aren't accepting either my password, which is not wrong, or my name, which is the same on both accounts I want to delete. There is a delete button on the bottom of the page showing your magazines, but pushing it doesn't do anything.
I've written here for help twice, but everyone is so excited here, they only want to crow about their views.. I wrote to Flipboard and don't expect an answer. Although they say you can use your main computer, they don't seem to prefer it. They finally sent me one of those "thanks for writing in, someone will get back to you" things, so I know I will be stuck with two accounts that I haven't been able to log back into, and won't get instructions. It feels like another Bubblews.
I signed up a while back using the regular website and my laptop, and I have not downloaded the app to any of our mobile devices. I haven't had any trouble using it the old-school way on a laptop, but all the same I'm sorry you can't access your account. They'll probably write back after you've given up and forgotten about it.
Flipbaord is relative;y difficult to use. I once tried but... Now i'll try again
First day my views were up 198%
Second day 673%
Third day 349% *
Views when compared to same days previous week before joining Flipboard.
But by the same token 98% of the views are for the article on the Felt...whatever niche site and 2% for those hubs on HP.
Great! Thanks for sharing this very useful information to all Hubbers. Can Hubbers do such type of promotional activities?
I made a couple of magazines. Flipped a few things I liked, added one article from each separate site I write for and got about 13 views for each. I will leave those breadcrumbs out there, but I don't think I will pursue it any further. I don't really like playing on it, and I think it is not good for my general topics. The border collie "magazine" started with 4 sheltie articles. lol
I'm still trying to get into the social media game, I know many hubbers get the majority of their views from places like Pinterest but I struggle with self promotion. Google has been excellent but it's not enough.
Flip board was been okay but traffic has rapidly subsided.
Still 0 views to any hubs.
Although, I "could do better" by spending time working on building the magazines up a bit more ... but when you see 0 you do get disheartened
Yep, the first 48 hours were gangbusters but then traffic dropped off a cliff. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted (shrugs)
I'm still updating my magazine by adding links to outside articles plus a few of mine. The ratio is about 5/1 and although views have dropped as of today I am still getting more views than ever before up to about 178% more. The caveat seems to be that articles on HP do not do good while articles on niche sites do great.
Okay. So I'm reading the terms of service and I have some concerns:
1, "Flipboard gives you a personal, worldwide, non-assignable license to use the software we provide you for your own personal, non-commercial use."
2. "By posting it, you give us permission to use your content to do what we reasonably believe necessary to provide our service both now and in the future including storing, displaying, reproducing and distributing your content."... "By posting content on Flipboard, you represent that you have the necessary rights to publish that material, and that doing so doesn’t conflict with any licenses you may have granted to others."
#1 appears to be a problem because HubPage articles are not non-commercial (for example, many images are not allowed to be used in HubPages because they are marked for "non-commercial" use only).
#2 appears to be a problem because allowing them to reproduce (and distribute!) your content would violate HubPages rule that HubPages is the only place hubs can be seen.
Of course, these are just my interpretations of the terms of service, but I will not participate unless I get clarification.
Thanks, that was food for thought. I deleted my account there even though I earned more in two days than I have in weeks here. I definitely don't want my work being used elsewhere.
I'm pretty sure that it means that other users of Flipboard are able to 'reflip' the content. It's similar to Pinterest.
Well, it states that "By posting it, you give us [Flipboard] permission to use your content to do what we reasonably believe necessary..." and that "by posting content on Flipboard, you [a user] represent that you have the necessary rights to publish that material..."
I hope I'm wrong but I read that as your original flipper (the user, or "flipper"?) must have the rights to flip it and when it's flipped Flipboard has the rights to display, reproduce and distribute your content. Don't know Pinterest's TOS, but this concerns me as a Hubber-- not that Flipboard is a way to showcase your hubs, but because of the terms they are imposing by using their service.
Do you think it is any different than sharing a link on Facebook, Twitter or StumbleUpon?
I've been following 'magazines' on Flipboard for 18 mths, including major newspapers, arts, gardening, news agencies, writing, food, home decor, Blogher, etc.
It's just another social media site.
Well if there are contradictions then I guess HP broke their own rules by having their own magazine on Flipboard which is nothing more than another social site(but better)
They have three articles at Flipboard, one of which is written by a UFO, paranormal, cosmic consciousness fiend.
That sends the right signals, lol.
Hey, I write about stuff like that, and I'm not a fiend:). Just concerned.
Maybe a little balance would help. That page includes 4 links (mostly to mad conspiracy theories) and appears entirely self-promotional to the casual visitor, since the guy wrote them all.
I would suggest a page entitled:
'There is More to HP than Self-promotion and Self-delusion. '
I would like a staff member to confirm whether or not Flipboard is okay to use as there seems to be a lot of confusion right now.
My understanding is that HP has their own magazine on Flipboard.
See link: https://flipboard.com/@HubPagesDotCom
So if you want confirmation I think this is it!
I could not see the contents because I deleted my account and can't get back in without signing in again. Can you tell me if Hubpages post our content or is their own? In other words, I guess I don't have a choice if they post any of my work, just like Pinterest but the bit about non-commercial use bothers me. I would like clarity from Staff here.
I saw the Hubpages board this morning and thought "that's interesting ...." I'm following them to see how they manage their account. It seems "big business" can have their own dedicated board ... sucks to be the little guy, eh!
I contacted them a few days ago and they said it's perfectly safe and fine to use flipboard.
You do realise, don't you, that when you click on a Flipboard article, it directs you right back to the original site?
The only part they 'publish' is the first image plus some introductory text. You know... similar to when you publish a link on Facebook or Google+. It's a curated collection of links, nothing more.
Yes, I do realize that.
The first thing you see when you flip an article is the message, asking if the person posting it owns those rights.
I might flip someone else's work but it does not mean I have the permission to do that. I might have it wrong!
That would mean you could flip ONLY your own work.
Edited to add:
"Flip articles, videos, sound and images from anywhere on the web into your Flipboard magazines. Visit the tools page to find resources to help you build and promote your Flipboard."
To be clear, 'flipping' a Hub doesn't republish it outside of HubPages. It just provides a link to the original. My latest 'flip' was a webpage of National Geographic. Obviously, Flipboard can't claim any rights on National Geographic's content - not only because it would be illegal but also because they don't have that content on their site. They just have a link and small snippet. It's exactly the same with Hubs. They have no rights at all to our Hubs' contents unless we manually copy and submit that content onto their site.
The content that we do give Flipboard legal rights to is our magazines' designs and our accompanying text and descriptions of the sites we flip. This is where they insist on us having the rights to publish the descriptions and not violate anyone's copyright.
By the way, I just discovered it's possible to prevent pages being flipped. I don't know how but when I mistakenly tried to flip the wrong HubPages page instead of one of my Hubs, I got the message that "HubPages doesn't allow this page to flipped". (or words to that effect).
My update: Still not seeing any evidence of a single visit to any of my hubs from this site.
I also checked stats on a site I'd linked to ... and, again, 0 visits.
The flipboard stats says "0 visits"
I'm a dud. A loser. Useless. Pointless. Stats don't lie you know! They've rumbled me....
I need to write more interesting stuff I guess
Are you adding other interesting content to your magazine? Have you checked your settings to make sure your magazine is visible? There's an on/off switch.
I've added more; struggled to find "interesting content" + demotivated and other things to be getting on with ... it's also quite tedious to load etc on my PC, it lags once I scroll through the site as my PC's a bit old.
It is visible.
I could do more ... I admit. But you have to focus on what's currently working, to do more of it ... -v- taking a new punt.
Mag 1: 4 items: 2 hubs, 2 other domains.
Mag 2: 7 items: 3 hubs, 4 other domains.
Mag 3: 8 items: 4 items from one domain, 4 items from other domains.
So, overall, not very large collections, which is probably the root problem.
Yes, that's the problem. Just go for a Google stroll and see what you can find to add. I've been doing it during ad breaks while watching TV. I only have one magazine narrowly focused and have about 25-30 articles flipped. Only a few are mine but they are from different sites, HP, my Wordpress blog and the clients' sites that I write for.
I'm not seeing a massive traffic increase but my links are getting flipped by others so I am hopeful I can build it up gradually. A little extra traffic is better than none, and the effort is minimal and quite enjoyable as I am reading lots of other people's content.
I've over-stretched myself in the past, so am going through dumping entire domains and trying to tidy up other stuff .... while also building up several facebook accounts .... mindful of the fact I've still got to do stuff with the Twitter accounts I keep forgetting to tweet from ... and the Pinterest boards I never pin on .... and the G+ accounts that need sorting out/deleting items ...
Once I get things tidier it should be smoother... but I've too many calls on time to be able to do it in the ad breaks .... I'm already working through all the programmes and the ad breaks on other things
It's awful, isn't it?
I have my blog set up to post on FB and Twitter automatically. I hardly ever go onto FB itself. Maybe once a month to see if there's anything that needs attention. I have a single FB page focused on my main niche, tarot, and that's more than enough. Trying to cultivate more would send me doolally.
Pinterest is my playground and I enjoy spending 10 mins here and there on it. I sometimes use it for promotion but rarely.
I abandoned Google+. I just didn't like it. And Google demanded that I use my full real name so I metaphorically told them where to stick it.
I'd been using Flipboard anyway, so it was an easy step to create a magazine there.
Don't spread yourself too thin; it will stress you out, and in the end it's hardly worth it. To be honest, I haven't written a hub these past three years but payout magically happens almost every month.
One niche would be a blessing.
I have 4-5 areas of interest, not focussing on any one thing.
I am the "jack of all trades, master of none" - and don't feel I have anything I can be a master of ... so running the 4-5 interests in the hope one of them really takes off so I can focus on it. Trouble is, they all do equally well
Great! I am in awe of you all. Great going in future too!
I made some magazines and have Hub Pages articles in them. I have not done anything. I have 1 follower and do not know where he came from. I thought I had done something wrong but guess not if other people are getting zero results also.
Cool, I sure will check out Flipboard.com and sign-in with my Facebook account, sound fun. Pinterest has pins, and Flipboard has magazine, cool, cool, cool. Thanks
This sounds interesting, I am going to have a go and see how I get on!
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