Subdomain Move Update
Well I have now been 'sub-domained' it all went down in about 10 seconds flat.
This looks to be a really positive move. I switched last night and was slightly concerned that my traffic would drop. It didn't and am eagerly anticipating it rising again (unless I prove to myself that I can't write!
) So big congratulations to the HP staff for all their hard work and planning.
I just hope though that this does not mean that hubbers and HP staff will give up on trying to prevent and getting rid of spam and poor quality stuff. It might not affect us all individually so much, but it would be great if HP became an entirely spam-free, high-quality writing site!
No more 'Somebody you ever wondered how exquisite it can be to get a loan to protection an crisis pauperization without having any publisher learning implicated?'!!!!!Haha! I have a wordpress site, and even though I've got 2 spam filters going, there's always a few to sift through each day. Some of them are hilarious bits of comment spinning. Here's one of the better ones:
"from an early grow older my personal mom utilized to point out tunes calms the actual savage animal We not sure if the girl has been referring to us however i make an attempt to will have yoga music close by"
I swear, that is it, word for word. I've saved the juiciest ones in a text file. I was sort of thinking of writing a hub article on these amusingly profound comments. I may call it Manglish
You must be joking, of course.
May be thats why HP Hot Jobs are on Monster -
http://hubpages.com/info/hotjobs
Best RegardsThe comment was stupid.
I suspect SunSeven is actually a he...
It was the cricket that woke my suspicions in the first place, but some further comments by SS7 are boosting it.What? Noooo! really? I want her/him to be this beautiful person in the avatar! I'm finding myself oddly disappointed.
I must say that I am totally shocked, Mark. I always thought that was your photo and admired the haircut.
Hope nobody says now its an avatar of hollywood celebrity.
This is a good point.
Restrictions should be lifted. If we are accountable for ourselves...we should be able to have a few more capsules/ads, etc. I'd say it would be nice to be able to use our own affiliates as we please but that may be pushing it a little too much.
I noticed a very curious effect of what I presume to be this switch when I signed on this morning and it is exactly the same thing that happened when I first joined the HP ads programme a few months back. I transferred to the subdomain about 11pm BST last night - 3pm PDT. I have found that my Google Adsense earnings from yesterday are more than double what they have been on any occasion for months. I have all my Hubs and blogs individually tracked but the increase in earnings is not showing as being from any registered source.
I first wondered if this could be due to my earnings showing in Pounds Sterling rather than USD and a "Realignment" taking place between google.com and google.co.uk. Then it occured to me that while that may (could it???) explain the untracked element of the earnings, it wouldn't explain the increased value. I know this may be an unrelated occurence but it is quite a coincidence that this has happened to me only twice and both times in relation to a change on HP.
Obviously, this is not something I am complaining about but I would love to know why it has happened, so as I can extend the effect!
Thanks to everyone at Hub Pages for working so hard to counteract the events of the last few months and fingers crossed that this latest improvement is something which will benefit us all...Glenn, I think there may be another factor too, though (and somebody can correct me if my thinking is misguided):
I have a big mix of Hubs and Hub scores. If I don't count the Hubs I have "just because I thought they'd make good reading", and if I look at the others objectively, a lot of my low scoring ones have either been a matter of not paying attention to SEO (especially when I was new on here), or just not getting traffic.
Both immediately after Panda, and now, after being in the test for several days, I've seen some of the low scorers rise in traffic and score. So one thing is that with the latest changes in things, I think some low scoring Hubs may eventually, and maybe gradually, rise in score.
Something I've noticed, though, is that some Hubs that once had really high scores (maybe high traffic, maybe votes up?) have dropped into the 70's. One factor might be that they had a burst because they were new (although not all were all that new). Another factor might be that Google just no longer "likes" them. Fine. Information-wise, they're solid. Grammar-wise, the grammar would generally be considered decent enough in offline writing circles. Anyone who views Internet writing as the "only kind of writing" might take issue with the fact that the writing is written according to "regular" writing rules - not the "standard" Internet writing rules. Some present ideas that (no matter how easily and well can be backed up in any number of sources) are generally unpopular.
In any case, some may/may not deserve to be in the 70's or 60's. There are some that I really don't think do. In fact, some that had done well (score-wise) immediately after Panda, and then dropped substantially since, have shown signs of coming back as far as what shows up in my Google account goes.
This leads me to wonder if, maybe, they got their boost because they were new. After they were around for awhile (and maybe new enough not to keep that boost), some may have been voted down by a lot of Hubbers/readers who have a narrower idea of "what a Hub ought to be" than even Google does. Google's latest standards include room for things like in-depth analysis, writing as an enthusiast, writing "as a human being for other human beings". Many people focus primarily only on the "information-only" aspect of writing and sometimes overlook the "unique" aspect of a piece.
The subdomain thing is new (and even testers have had only a short time with it). I'm not doing anything with any low-scorers until I see what happens. I think anyone in a similar situation should wait as well (of course, maybe every Hubber, every Hubber's aims as a writer, and every Hub are all so different there's no such thing as any "similar situations" among any of us.
Some of my previous high-scorers remained high scorers. Other than that, there's been a big shift in which ones scores well and which don't. I have a couple/few high scorers that, honestly, are an embarrassment to me as a writer. Some low-scorers, I know, don't belong on this particular site (or at least haven't in the past). Some of them, though, aren't just decent Hubs, but they're my better writing.
Part of me doesn't really care if my crappiest pieces of writing earn me money. Another part of me (and now that part which does, and should, care about my reputation as a writer) isn't going to want to separate the two. Basically, when it comes to my own low-scorers, I have to wait and see if what does well shifts over the next x amount of time; because if I lose my reputation as a writer there won't be any money to be earned either. So, for now (and as long I'm continuing to earn at least a couple of hundred, post-Panda, dollars a month from stuff I've already written), the low scorers aren't going anywhere.
Main point: Low scorers aren't always "crap" writing. High-scorers aren't always good writing. Now probably isn't time yet to sort out what's a good earner and what's a good traffic-getter.
The following is possibly something of an urban legend, but: I recall reading that one famous, big American newspaper (possibly the NYT) used to instruct its journalists to write as if the typical reader were an intelligent sixth grader (11-12 y.o.). So, an eighth grade reading level might actually indicate an improvement in the average reading ability of the American public.
I don't know how it would average out worldwide, though.
IzzyM, I haven't read much of your work, but what I did just absolutely blew me away! It was fabulous - insightful, informative, detailed, well-composed, inspiring, and heart-tugging. Probably too good for the average internet reader (as Nell Rose said),!
Please don't stop with the quality! Modify, if you must, but keep the quality high. It is so refreshing!I think I'm in love!
What a wonderful thing to say, thank you, thank you, thank you
We all need a wee boost now and again. I think this is the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me!
Well, that's very nice of you to say that!
But if others have not said the same about your work, it's bound to be because they haven't read it yet, so I hope a lot of Hubbers and others will correct that oversight.
@Glenn, I understand that my own crummy hubs (if I had any
) could harm my Google rank. I have two options: to delete them or to move them to another site. Is there any risk in doing the latter? That wouldn't affect Google rank on HP, would it? It's always possible a poor hub might do better on another site--and the backlinking wouldn't hurt either. Right?
- Marye Audetposted 12 years ago
0 The facebook/twitter reset to zero scares the hell out of me, but that’s the way it is.
Since the tend to be useful to their audience and have got the traffic, the numbers will hopefully accumulate again.
Fingers crossed!
You're welcome. May the force be with you in this endeavor!
And was your wife happy about being moved?????
Must be only Some work right now? Mine does not work.
GAAAAHHH!!!!!!
"Subdomains" ???
"301's" ????
"PR8's" or 5's ????????
***head spinning!!*** Thanks IzzyM and celebritie I feel better now you've said that I was a bit concerned not being able to have exactly the same sub-domain as my profile name. Now, I will stop being envious of everyone with their own profile name as a sub-domain.
It was probably not the wisest choice to begin with as when I Google- 2uesday my pages are there along with night clubs and bands with similar names.So, his wife got a new domain too?
Hmm.. I just tried this...and the majority of my hubs from the samples I checked came out at 100% "Intermediate."
Two, however, came up at 0% across the board. HUH?? That has to be some kind of glitch. If not, that can't be a good thing.
a Zero is as if the hub was invisible, rather than an actual rating of the reading scale, it seems to me.
Hi Urbane Chaos, thanks for asking this very important question. Yes, it is still necessary to flag if we want HubPages to continue to be the best place to write and find high quality articles. I think most Hubbers want to write on a site that is well thought of and has high quality work; not a place that is full of spam and other low quality writing. We greatly appreciate those Hubbers that have flagged in the past and continue to do so. Even with subdomains, high quality writing is important.
Since I have moved to a subdomain, I have seen more traffic.
I've never been a big money-maker, but even my Hubs popped up a little after just one day of changing to sub-doms. So I think it was a brilliant move!
No change as yet, but will give it time, it's only been a couple of days...I'll just wait until the hubs get indexed with the new urls.
Will just keep plodding along and eating toffee popcorn and drinking chilled red wine whilst sat in the sun with my laptop perched on my wazza!SEO expert Mark Ewbie? Mark it looks like you have been promoted! no more jokes, everything to be taken seriously from now on!
Didn't you realise that we are now all going to blame you if it does go wrong? The pack always does turn on the main cheerleader! I've already been down to the allotments to get a pail of rotten tomatoes. All I need to do now is to sort out a bit of knitting to do while you are being marched up to the guillotine LOL!
I think that they call it 'taking one for the team'!
Thank you for your helpful figures, IzzyM
So I might expect a bit more rise than I saw between Sunday and the subdomain change.
Check the first post on this thread, Paraglider. There's a link to sign up.
Hey thanks - I thought that was just for a finite beta test group. Here we go
- EmpressFelicityposted 12 years ago0
Well..don't take this the wrong way but I'm glad I'm not the only one.
