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What is President Obama's secret agenda?

  1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image92
    Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago

    Presidential candidate Mitt Romney said last week that Obama has a secret agenda for his second term. I'm wondering what that is. Romney did not say. Or is this the old psychological trick of projecting your fault on the other guy. Is it Mitt who has the secret agenda? I surely don't know. Perhaps, nobody knows and it's just a campaign ploy the Romney campaign is using.

    1. Paul Wingert profile image79
      Paul Wingertposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Is Romney a mind reader? No, he's a clueless, lying pile pf sh** that'll say anything to get elected.

    2. Ralph Deeds profile image69
      Ralph Deedsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Mitt's not so secret agenda: two Cadillacs in every garage and Kobe beef in every pot.
      http://s1.hubimg.com/u/6445060_f248.jpg  Driveway in Romney's Home Town deedsphoto

      1. Hollie Thomas profile image61
        Hollie Thomasposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        And there's me thinking he was in the race for the good of the population. lol

        1. paintphd profile image60
          paintphdposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I have'nt seen the Occupiers far left radical hero's.. Michael Moore, Bill Cosby, George Clooney, Joy Behar, Al Sharpton or His Holiness Obama driving a Buick.

          1. JSChams profile image61
            JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Dirty little secret isn't there? They are just stinking rich aren't they? oops! Cats out of the bag!

            1. lovemychris profile image80
              lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              It's no secret at all. But it is typical that certain people miss the whole point of the movement.

              It's not about having money....it's about GREED, and STEALING, and DIS-LOYALTY to your country.

              All those lefty's you cited all support policies that are fair and don't ravage the poor like your righty policies always do.


              Learn the difference. Learn what something is about before you trash it.

              oh and speaking of trash...when will Tammy Bruce apologize to Michelle? She is, after all, the FLOTUS....and Mrs. Romney is not. Seems odd that people fawn over one and not the other.

              Not.

              1. JSChams profile image61
                JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Hey well, why won't a certain billionaire pay his taxes like he's supposed to?
                Oh he's a left so you don't want HIS money do you?
                They have pretty well proven a tax hike on the rich won't solve our money problems. It's pretty obvious it's not about helping , it's about"social justice".

                1. lovemychris profile image80
                  lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  And what, pray tell---is stocking your money in a Swiss bank to avoid American taxes?

                  Patriotism? To what? Mammon God?  me thinks so.

    3. Onusonus profile image86
      Onusonusposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Well he likes to give lots of concessions to our enemies. Shhhhh, "I'll talk with Vladimir after I get re elected." *wink* *wink*
      http://cmsimg.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=BT&Date=20120326&Category=NEWS04&ArtNo=120326008&Ref=AR&MaxW=640&Border=0&Hot-mic-picks-up-candid-conversation-between-Obama-Medvedev

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        Brenda Durhamposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Indeed.

        Obama and his cronies make laws behind closed doors (doors that were locked to keep Republicans out, even!)  and then he whispers to Medvedev.   I imagine his telephone conversations to the leaders of other Nations are very private and personal too.

        Obviously, his agenda is to rule, period.  Otherwise he wouldn't leave out the PEOPLE.   And the thing is.....his intention to do so is obvious; he flaunts that power in the faces of everyone.  I wonder if he's really so dumb about the setup of microphones, etc.,  or if he's just mocking all of America with his little manipulations.

        If there was ever a valid reason for wiretapping the White House, the time of this Administration would be it!  But I doubt anyone has the guts.  Their political heads would be cut off (if not their actual heads)....

        Oh, to be a fly on the wall in White House!   Hmm.....wonder if that's why Obama swatted that poor fly on tv?   hahhaa

        1. Onusonus profile image86
          Onusonusposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          You've got that right. He wants to get rid of the missile defense system in Poland that the US put billions of dollars and decades of research into. He also gave the serial numbers of trident missiles that we sold to Britain, despite their avid protests not to, to our enemies in Russia. KGB agents were prepared to die for that information, and the President of the United States just gave them the information.

          Unbelievable, but i'm just a prejudice bigot for not liking that crap, and not liking a gut whose deficit will bankrupt the nation, and cripple our economy.

          1. Quilligrapher profile image90
            Quilligrapherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Greetings, Onus. I thank you for sharing your viewpoints with us.

            I thought I might make an effort to demonstrate there is usually more than one side to every issue. Your post above makes three points: US missiles in Poland, possible disclosure of trident serial numbers, and the national debt. I must admit I have no experience as a leader of the world’s only super power nor does my resume include any qualifications for the job. For this reason, I have to do a lot of research before I attempt to pass judgement on any President’s policies. Allow me to share some things I’ve learned.

            1. Missiles or Butter

            Missiles in Poland and the growing national debt are both closely related to one other, often overlooked, global reality: the cold war is over. While tension and suspicion still run high, the US and Russia have both been working for decades to “normalize” their relationship. Co-operation and transparency are essential to this process. Remember the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis? The US was ready to go to war when Russia placed missiles 90 miles off our shore.(1) Consider how the Russians feel about our missiles in Poland.

            Furthermore, regaining control of the US national debt must include increases in taxes and reductions in spending. Department of Defense budgets down the road will be a large chunk of the latter. Therefore, when I look at the bigger picture, I see the elimination of unnecessary missiles from Poland as a positive step toward stemming our National spending appetite.

            2. Trident Missile Serial Numbers

            WikiLeak disclosures include cables indicating the US may have wanted to use the serial numbers of Trident missiles delivered to the UK as bargaining chips during the New START Treaty negotiations between the US and Russia in 2009. It remains uncertain if these serial numbers were of past or future purchases and whether any serial numbers were actually revealed. The UK has been mum on this subject and a US State Department called a story in a British newspaper “bunk.” Regardless, even if true, the entire matter is a moot point.

            “In 2010 British Foreign Secretary William Hague declared that the country had "up to 160" nuclear warheads in inventory, although did not disclose number of missiles.” (2) The New START Treaty signed in April of that year limits the US and Russia to no more than 1,550 deployed warheads on each side. A report on the provisions of the treaty prepared by the Congressional Research Service for Members and Committees of Congress includes these observations: “Many analysts hoped the New START Treaty would cut more deeply into U.S. and Russian forces, reducing them to perhaps 1,000 warheads on each side…
            And some speculate that, if the United States and Russia reduce their forces below 1,000 deployed warheads, the negotiations would have to include China, France, and Great Britain, the other declared nuclear weapons states under the NPT.” (Non-Proliferation Treaty)(3)

            In other words, the exact number of warheads in the UK arsenal and the number of missiles available to deliver them are pale when compared to the 3100 warheads controlled by the US and Russia. 

            I admire your attention to world events, Onus. I encourage you to keep digging for all of the facts and to step back occassionally to take in the bigger picture.  Now, could you please put your gun away? big_smile

            (1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis
            (2) http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=11409
            (3) http://lugar.senate.gov/issues/start/pdf/R41219.pdf, p. 28

        2. Quilligrapher profile image90
          Quilligrapherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Hi Ms. Durham.
          I hope everything is going well for you today.

          After reading your post, I thought I might share a few facts.

          In our republic, the President does not make laws; Congress makes laws.

          In our republic, the President’s job calls for him to have private and personal conversations with leaders of other nations.

          In our republic, the people hire the President to run the executive branch of our government for four years to the best of his ability.

          We are all entitled to criticize the job of the President but we have to understand his job if our criticism is to be constructive.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Hi Quill!  Hope you're doing well too.



            Well, about Presidents---they also don't bully Congress.  But indeed that's what Obama did here in this video:

            http://youtu.be/exEp7aUqe58

            Notice he says "WE'RE gonna get this done".

            That's as close as anyone can come to "making" law when they're not supposed to make law.
            Well...that, and Sonia Sotomayor saying the Appeals Court is "where policy is made" and then laughingly retracting by saying hahaha I know judges don't make law.....

            Mr. Obama needs to "buck up" himself and stop trying to be the leader of all 3 Branches of Government.   As it stands, he's a bully.  And that isn't the only instance that shows his audacious agenda.  But seriously, it's way TOO LATE for him to be a proper President.  He has burned all the bridges that could possibly move him from a liberal activist to a decent President.   What we're under is his soft tyranny.   (I personally don't call it "soft" because I can see right through the fluff; but that's the only step left before outright tyranny gets put in place).

            1. Quilligrapher profile image90
              Quilligrapherposted 4 years ago in reply to this


              A good point, Ms. Durham, except you pretend this behavior is unique to this President. Just like cartoons and commentaries that bash the President, this is a long standing feature of the political landscape.

              bul·ly pul·pit
              Noun: A public office or position of authority that provides its occupant with an outstanding opportunity to speak out on any issue.

              While some may place the emphasis on "bully", others place it on "pulpit." Also, this definition uses the term "any issue."

          2. Dr Billy Kidd profile image92
            Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            That's insteresting looking at the U.S. president's job description. It's really: run the conutry, if you can!

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          idratherbeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          No the fly he was swatting on the tv was interupting his faux comedy hour and seeing how gullible some people realy are with the unfair and unbalanced approach! lol

      2. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
        Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Poppycock and reactionary twaddle!  He was implying that he was in the midst of an election and wasn't free to negotiate anything because his political enemies would try to exploit anything he said—and guess what, he was right by the looks of your comment.

        Your ideology obviously determined your prejudicial comment.

        https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/546288_10150647030801275_177486166274_9686809_469759807_n.jpg

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Perhaps it's rather Obama's comment and ideology that have people on edge, Wizard. You're looking at this far too one-sided. That's not like you.

          While it's clear you lean to the liberal side, your objectivity seems to be slipping.

          Bad day? I hope it gets better.

          1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
            Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I'm having a fine day, thanks, LH, and I stand by what I said.  Obama is not an ideologue and I don't think  enemies like Osama bin Laden thought Obama conceded anything. 

            The only concessions by Obama have been to give Republicans in the congress the benefit of the doubt in hopes that they might compromise on legislation to get America back on track.  The real enemies of America, and especially the middle class, are the surrogates of big money and corporations in Congress. 

            http://s3.hubimg.com/u/6450086_f520.jpg

        2. Jason Marovich profile image88
          Jason Marovichposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Not to mention the US and Russia aren't enemies last I heard...

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            Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            ...especially with Barack Hussein Obama in the White House.

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              Brenda Durhamposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Yup.  He seems to be holding a matchstick under the Cold War bunkers.  Just waiting for the time to re-light it....

              But of course he has many irons in the fire, not just that one.

        3. Dr Billy Kidd profile image92
          Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Forget the muffin, Steve Cobert, it looks like were all walking on cracked glass when it come to trying to have a discussion about presidential politics! I guess attacking each other does some good, but it may just be letting off steam so, collectively, we don't do anything but complain. And the big dollar people, with the advertizements, win again.

          1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
            Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            They're not "attacks;" they are important distinctions in the debate and we must acknowledge the difference between unreasonable exaggeration based on ideology and the objective facts.  When that can't be done, ridicule and satire often becomes the only alternatives to ridiculous propaganda.

            1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image92
              Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Good distinction. I guess I feel people are too powerless, so that's why young adults list the comedy channel as their main news source.

      3. paintphd profile image60
        paintphdposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        FROM ONE SOCIALIST TO ANOTHER.

  2. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    Get ready for the worst campaign ploys ever used.....
    Trillion-Dollar smear and defame coming up.

    I hope America can survive the mind-messing twisting and hate she's about to be bombarded with.

    I personally plan on turning Mitt off whenever I smell near a whiff of him.
    That goes for all he and Bibi's neo-phytes as well.

    Those 2 are working together to ruin the US of A on behalf of the same Neo-Kook power-mongers who began this charade.

    Listening to Mitt, or watching him, is like hearing nails down a chalk-board.

    And his lovely and charming wife can't change his planned policies, or make him into a credible human being, IMO.

    doodeedoodoodoodeedoodoo(Jaws music)

    Shark in the water!!!!!

    1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image92
      Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, I believe that Mitt and Bibi have the next war all lined out. So that is my biggest concern--some way to stop the next war. Could Obama stop the next Middle East confligration that starts with bombing Tehran?

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        They're friends since 1976. Romney's boss at Bain Capital was 3rd in command of Mossad.

        In a debate, Romney actually said he would have to speak to Netanyahu and ask him what he wants before acting.(NYT article)
        And he has called for war with Iran.

        But also disturbing, is he had Kofer Black as his military advisor last time he ran.....

        That guy was head of Detachment 88....military occupation of the citizens of Myanmar.(Burma)

        He said nothing about dirty cop Jeff Perry, and was known as Fee Fee when gvr.  And--he LIES. With impunity. Then denies it later. I believe there is a name for that.

    2. Hollie Thomas profile image61
      Hollie Thomasposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, (thankfully) we have limited exposure to that sickening creature, Romney. The footage I have seen, is insulting. Still, it doesn't matter. Why, because he's as likely to get into the White house as I am. I've encountered a lot of stupid people from the US(same applies to the UK), but I've also encountered many more sensible, intelligent ones.

      He (and his funders) can spend as much as they like. But you can't fool all of the people all of the time. Obama will be the President this time next year, a reduced majority perhaps. But he'll still be Prez. A lesser man would have thrown in the towel long ago.

    3. Will Apse profile image89
      Will Apseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      This is my favorite rant of 2012, so far.

      p.s. Conservatives usually have a point in the UK, even if you don't especially like them.

      Here is Mitt having a point

      http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gallery … -at-things

      I am guessing this is an alpha male thing.

  3. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    Oh...was glad to read in the NYT about How Bibi helped Mitt with his gvt-cutting while he was gvr of Boston.
    So--the 2 of them made those life-affirming moves?

    Cut poor children off eye-care and dental, while senior citizens on medicare were afforded the best and most expensive of new procedures.

    Such beacons of humanity....Not ever in a million years.

    Snobs with a vengeance is how I see them.

    Arrugula? Harvard?-----these 2 are beyond "elite", and into the 1% of 1%.

    ask Mittens how much $$ he's hiding....when Adelson becomes his new donor, that is.

    After Newt gets his deal/cut, after doing "his part" in the charade.

    And someobody mentioned yesterday that Paul is in on it as well...a lot has to do with "the Mormon connection". Apparently, the NSA is full of Mormons..a new spy-center is being built in Utah....and Paul has ties with them. Oh no, not Ron???? Oh yes, Ron.

    It all can be googled and perused for your consideration.

    "Veteran GOP presidential campaign strategist Mary Matalin said Romney needs to anchor his schedule with "unifying events" that focus on the conservative establishment.

    In a sign that Romney knows he has work to do on this front, he has scheduled an appearance before the National Rifle Association's annual meeting on April 13."

    .......................

    1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image92
      Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      The idea of snobs with a vengence is interesting. There was a study that came out recently that said wealthy people are detached, self-centered, and are less empathetic than poor people. The poor also donate a larger share of their income to help others. ( Piff, P. K., Stancatoa, D. M., Côtéb, S., Mendoza-Dentona, R., & Keltnera, D. (2012) Higher social class predicts increased unethical behavior. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences 10.1073/pnas.1118373109. Retrieved on 4-1-2012 from www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/02/21/1 … 9.abstract )

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I heard a woman suggest today that this GOP is simply not willing to accept a black man as prez. She also said that in her opinion, the war on women is retribution for women supporting Obama.

        Here's what the most trusted news source has said about him:

        "Fox News has a long history of race-baiting attacks on Obama.

        Just last year, Fox News host Eric Bolling said Obama was hosting "hoodlum[s]" in "the hizzouse" referring to the White House hosting Ali Bongo, the Gabonese president, and American hip-hop artist and actor, Common.
        Bolling also drew heavy criticism after posting to his Twitter account that Obama was "Chuggging 40's" in Ireland "while tornadoes ravage MO."

        Former Fox New host Glenn Beck once infamously called President Obama a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people." Beck also suggested that Obama refused to meet with a BP chief because he was a "white CEO."

        Recently, discussing the controversial shooting of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin, Fox News' Dick Morris said Obama "intervened" in the case because he wants to "rekindle the sense of black victimization."

        Henderson's comments, in response to Dan Rather's statement that "race will be a factor in this presidential campaign," serves as a reminder that Fox News itself could play a role in amplifying the role that race plays in the 2012 campaign."


        Naaaahhhhhhhh, you think?  smile smile   are cherries red?

        1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image92
          Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Fox could amplify the race card during Ed Gillespie $1 billion dollar negative campaign to trash Obama. It would be done by references like Rove started, calling the President a bully. In all due respect, it was Fox that made hatred a family value, do that is what they teach best. I know foxites disagree, so why not discuss this stuff before it boils down to calling the president stinky.

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            No need to discuss issues:

            Birthers, part II.

            And "Obama is a racist", part 50 thousand.

  4. Doc Snow profile image94
    Doc Snowposted 4 years ago

    Reminds me of an '80s-vintage columnist name of "Lubor Zink" who used to breathlessly reveal the "secret" plans the Kremlin had.  He always wrote as if his revelations were fact, but could never explain what his sources for this highly-sensitive information were.

    If you ask me, Mitt's 'secret agenda' should be to get someone else's portrait used as an illustration for the term "flip-flopper."

    1. Druid Dude profile image60
      Druid Dudeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Obama's secret agenda: The return of Motown.

      1. Jason Marovich profile image88
        Jason Marovichposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Yes!

      2. Dr Billy Kidd profile image92
        Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Motown returns, yeah!

  5. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago

    Oink! Oink!

    http://home.comcast.net/~wizardofwhimsy/mittmask.gif

  6. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    John Kasich wouldn't endorse him, and somehow, I think that is going to be his death-knell.
    There are some R's who still have a semblance of something left. And allowing Bibi to buy the presidency is maybe too much even for them.

    1. Jed Fisher profile image88
      Jed Fisherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      O’Bama got elected to do something about those Banksters. But instead he flogged the dead horse of trying to nationalize health care. Then the TEA Party put a majority into the House of Representatives, to do something about those Banksters. Instead, the people elected by the TEA party picked a fight with Women and are now flogging the dead horse of abortion debate…
      And OWS rose up to beg for money from Wall Street Banksters…or something. Not sure what that’s all about, but it’s certainly not supportive of any agenda. Or anything. Just people blowing off steam.
      Now Romney. He’s a corporate raider. He finds organizations vulnerable to takeover, gets control of them, guts them out, burns them to the ground and walks away rich. That’s his secret agenda. He’s getting ready to extract wealth and power from the Republican Party. And if elected, he’ll finish off America, finish the job Goldman Sachs started.
      As for O’Bama? Not sure. Just an agreeable guy, having a great time as President, going with the flow. Enjoying the best job in the world with excellent retirement benefits. His second-term agenda is obviously to better feather his nest for retirement. Which might include making America better; it’s a possibility at least.

  7. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago

    http://s3.hubimg.com/u/6446846_f520.jpg

    1. crazyhorsesghost profile image84
      crazyhorsesghostposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      If we had Democrats on that shirt to it would be perfect. Obama made promises that he was never able to fulfill. But I'm not at all surprised. With out having the same party in power in the house and senate a presidents hands are tied.

      I think we should throw out the tea party, the Republicans and the Democrats and start over with a new party. And we as American citizens should refuse to play any more of their political spin games.

      There are 49 million Americans today in danger of going hungry.

      15.000 plus homeless people live on the streets of New Orleans and another 300.000 people can't come back home to New Orleans.

      NAFTA got our textile jobs. Whole cities in the American south look like ghost towns.

      Detroit has whole neighborhoods setting empty and falling down because the automobile industry is gone.

      America's roads and bridges are ready to fall down and there is little or nothing being done to fix it.

      I could go on but I won't. The Republicans and the Democrats caused these problems and they should be thrown out of office and replaced with independent candidates or America first candidates.

      Obama's secret is that he wants to keep lining his and his buddies pockets with cash. And as long as they can keep the average American feeding into their political spin games it will be business as usual. What we need to put on the ballot is a box to check for none of the above.

      1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
        Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        You're just dead wrong and your cynicism is defeatist. These problems have gotten worse because Americans have been lazy and complacent while the the corporate weasels figured out how to steal our kids' futures.  We have no one to blame but ourselves for not participating in government.

        http://s1.hubimg.com/u/6454668_f520.jpg

        1. crazyhorsesghost profile image84
          crazyhorsesghostposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I didn't put anything there but the truth. I fight every day for social justice and to feed the poor and hungry. I take part in politics but I see no reason for more of the same. America is falling down and the political spin game continues. We need politicians who will roll up their sleeves and get busy saving America. We don't need more political spin games played out to keep the American peoples minds off of the real issues facing America.

          I really believe that if the men who created this country were alive today that they would call for revolution.

          The modern politicians on both sides, the Republicans and the Democrats have sold out America. All you have to look at is NAFTA. Both parties pushed it through and now you have ghost towns all over the American south.

          Look at Detroit and what has happened there. Whole neighborhoods stand there empty and falling down. Gary Indiana is a ghost town. The automobile industry was destroyed by both parties. Both parties allowed this to happen.

          http://s2.hubimg.com/u/6455165_f248.jpg
          Gary Indiana Now Mostly A Ghost Town


          http://s1.hubimg.com/u/6455184_f248.jpg
          New Orleans Homeless

          The only way that the American dream can ever be restored is by stopping doing business as usual. We have to create strict term limits on the senate and congress. We would be a lot better off if a US President served one six year term. We need to get rid of lobbyist and make politicians answer for what they do. Every US Politician should be for America first and to hell with the rest of the world. America is broke and someone better fix it or were going to have problems in this country like no one has seen yet.

          Political spin games are never going to fix America's problems. I say throw all the bums out of office and start over. Radical change is the only thing that is ever going to change America. Business as usual and political spin is never going to work.

          1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
            Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Though I agree with much of your sentiments, crazyH, you're still missing the point.  I wasn't accusing you of being complacent—it's only the American voter who is well informed and engaged who'll change things politically, and that won't happen when people mistake corporate propaganda and misinformation for genuine news.  The truth is out there but Americans are too self-absorbed and distracted to become informed and aware.

            When you see ultra-conservatives, TeaPartiers and religious zealots  protesting healthcare instead of war,  protesting gun-control instead of the killing of an innocent kid,  protesting immigration instead of injustice—you see just how far money interests have trumped public interests in America.

            1. crazyhorsesghost profile image84
              crazyhorsesghostposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I have to agree with you 100 percent there. It the political spin game.

    2. PJ Jones profile image60
      PJ Jonesposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Wizard Of Whimsy..that T-Shirt should be massed produced..is is patent?I love it..can I steal idea?  Lets find a buyer..game?

      1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
        Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Of course; pass it around!

  8. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    Maybe ole Putin's not that bad:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr5GxN3C … embedded#!

    He's an Orthodox Christian, did you know that?
    All the girls I work with from Russia love him.

  9. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago

    Yeah, of course—America needs more enemies and more wars.  What is it with people who always resort to fear-mongering and their Them-vs.-Us mentalities?

    http://s1.hubimg.com/u/6450560_f520.jpg

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/529061_409570172404563_196601040368145_1490483_827436100_n.jpg

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Unfortunately, to many Americans, our biggest enemy is the current "occupant" of the Oval Office, Wizard. I understand you don't feel that way but there are those that do.

  10. amberld profile image88
    amberldposted 4 years ago

    I just don't see how people can even consider the President the enemy? I never considered Bush an enemy (and I am not Republican) or any president for that matter. They are probably trying to do the best they can with what they can. I believe every president tries to do their best and really has the good of the country at heart and should be supported.

    1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
      Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      There's the difference, amberld, you aren't narrow-minded and resentful!

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      There are Americans that don't believe Obama really has the good of the country at heart.

      I, for one, believe he hates our Constitution and would love nothing more than to do away with it.

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        idratherbeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I believe President Obama does have the good of the country at heart. And there is no indication he hates the Constitution. All up in arms about mandating healthcare? Why not up in arms for drivers license, hunting license, fishing license, having to have a social security number, having to have homeowners insurance for mortgage, having to have car insurance, and the list goes on....But for many, if they can use the Constitution as an argument, they conveniently do so!

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Between you and I, that makes one of us, idratherbe.

          Who says I'm not against all or some of those things. Some were instituted before Obama or I were even born so I won't hold him responsible for them.

  11. amberld profile image88
    amberldposted 4 years ago

    Have a problem with the president's policies, sure, but support the president himself.

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      How can someone support the president but not his policies?

  12. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    Personally I favor the Bill Of Rights...which the GOP is heck-bent on burying 6 feet under.

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      "Personally I favor the Bill Of Rights"

      With the exception of the Second Amendment, right?

      It's not the GOP trying to take away our rights, LMC. It's the Dems.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Really? How so?
        They want me to bow to religion too? Invade my privacy...my womb? Tell me who I can and can't marry? Go to prison for a bag of weed? Get brutalized for protesting? Make me jump through hoops to vote?

        Oh.....make me buy health-insurance so I don't bum off the system...that it?Pullleeeeeze.

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          LMC, I'm a Christan Conservative. You know that.

          I don't want you to bow to anything or anyone. That's between you and your God, if you have one.

          I don't want to be anywhere near your womb. Enough said on that one.

          I couldn't care less who you marry or if you smoke weed as long as you don't drive. You can get high and marry your hamster for all I care as long as I don't have to worry about you killing someone, maybe me, if you're behind the wheel.

          No one should be brutalized for protesting, be that by the police, the Tea Party, or the Old or New Black Panthers. If you break the law, yes, you should be arrested.

          As for voting, there should be reason why you or I can't show an ID to do so.

          And the last thing I want is our government to be in charge on my health care or that of my family.

          These are the same people, Democrats and Republicans, Liberals and Conservative, that can't find their collective asses with a flashlight and a map.

          Why, in the name of everything that's good and Holy, would I want these idiots in charge of my health care?

          Have you been to the DMV lately?

          Go to the one closest to your house. Sit for a while. Play a game of "What's that smell?" Then decided if you'd want our government to be in charge of who gets what medically.

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            So--healthcare mandate would be taking away your rights?

            That's why you are against Obama?

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              Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I'm against Obama for a lot of reasons, LMC. Obamacare is just one of many.

        2. glockr profile image60
          glockrposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          "Really? How so?
          They want me to bow to religion too? Invade my privacy...my womb?"

          If you think placing reasonable restrictions on ending the life of an unborn child is an invasion of your privacy, just wait until government takes over the entire health care system and starts dictating what treatments you're even "allowed" to get. As for religion, do you have some examples to share of conservative politicians who are advocating some form of theocracy? I can think of plenty of liberal politicians who would like to ban religion, or force members of various religions to do things that violate their conscience.

  13. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 4 years ago

    Actually lost my wallet and had to get a new drivers license, not that long age. Was in and out of DMV in about ten minutes. They were great. Had a new driver's license in a few days. In fact everybody was great both government and private, like the bank.

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Last time I went, it took over two hours, I was one of only a few that spoke English, and the smell was unbelievable. The only things missing were cages made of sticks and twine containing chickens and pigs on leashes although a couple of the kids running around very closely resembled them.

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        idratherbeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        You got out quick. Last time my dad renewed his license it took almost 4 hours. Waiting line outside the building and everyone with a number. Like a deli line! Now take in the fact he was 85 and imagine his frustration because without that card he couldn't drive or vote! and some say getting a voter id card is easy? Not!

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          It may not be easy but a photo ID to vote should be a requirement unless, of course, you don't have a problem with illegals and the dead voting.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            lol
            No kidding!  'Tis true!

      2. Quilligrapher profile image90
        Quilligrapherposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        The most blatantly racist comment I've read today.

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          There's that old, tired word that Liberals throw around when they can't think of anything else to say. roll

          Racist.

          Wow, Quill, I would have thought you could do better.

          lol lol lol lol lol

          1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
            Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            LH, you shrewdly escaped Quill's accusation and label of your comments because you are smart enough not to use a racial epithet. But your expressions are all filled with  an obstinate conviction that your prejudiced ideology is the only way to see reality.  As if a poorly-run, underfunded  DMV in a ultraconservative state with an undereducated populace is equivalent to a well-run national health program like Medicare is beyond absurd. And if you were old enough to be on Medicare, you would know that.

            If you are going to sling labels like "Liberals" around and hurl pejoratives at people because they disagree with your resentful opinions, then, to be accurate, your rhetoric is just plain ignorant and your expressions, though not those of an overt racist,  are most definitely that of a bigot and a narrow-minded fool.

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              Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              There was nothing racial about my remarks, Wizard. The conditions at the afore mentioned DMV office were so bad they closed it. My remarks were aimed at the huge number of people getting their license that couldn't speak English and the ones that obviously hadn't bathed in some time. If you don't like my humor, I suggest you refer to the remarks below to Quill.

              As to your "poorly-run, underfunded  DMV in a ultraconservative state with an undereducated populace" remark, how is this any different from the stereotypical remark I made?

              And you say I'm a racist. Sounds like a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

              At least I'll say where I'm from and, while my state may not be perfect, I'm still proud enough to acknowledge where I live.

              Also, the "poorly-run, underfunded  DMV" in Tennessee was actually established by a Dem-led state legislature that had control for 140 years up until about 8 or 10 years ago.

              It takes a while to fix something the Dems had so much time to screw up.

              1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
                Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                LH, I gave you more credit than you deserve.  There is a distinction between a racist and a bigot and you should find a dictionary and then you might possibly understand the distinction I made in identifying your thoughtlessness.  You make Archie Bunker look like Albert Eienstein.

                I'm not saying your stupid, just that you have bad luck when it comes to thinking!

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                  Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  You're showing your typical-liberal side, Wizard, or simply having a bad day.

                  I dislike no one because of their color or religion. I DO dislike people coming into this country illegally and ALL that goes with that.

                  So am I to believe that you have no problem with people breaking the law?

                  Why are those, like me, who resent my country's unwillingness to do something about illegal immigration labeled racist or bigot?

                  Is the law not the law or is it no longer law when you don't agree with it?

                  If that's how you think, Wizard, I guess I had you pegged wrong. I hope not.

                  1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
                    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Longhunter wrote:

                    Have you been to the DMV lately?

                    Go to the one closest to your house. Sit for a while. Play a game of "What's that smell?" Then decided if you'd want our government to be in charge of who gets what medically.

                    . . .

                    Last time I went, it took over two hours, I was one of only a few that spoke English, and the smell was unbelievable. The only things missing were cages made of sticks and twine containing chickens and pigs on leashes although a couple of the kids running around very closely resembled them.


                    LH, try to read your own remarks with an objective eye. I based my responses to you on your flagrant petty bigotry that is, in direct and simple terms, unconscious ignorance.  The very same characteristics you project onto the people "who can't speak English at the DMV." 

                    You live in an either/or world filled with blame for "Them!" — that is, people who don't share your values and opinions.

                    Your words often expose a sensibility of resentment,  frustration, anger and intolerance. 

                    Worse yet, you exhibit a ridiculous illogic that is beyond simplistic — it borders on the imbecilic.  Roughly, here it is.  The people at my local DMV smell and don't speak English and they represent "government"—therefore all government is bad and therefore healthcare is bad—even though 93% of the people on Medicare surveyed, rate it a satisfactory program.

                    You evade every point that directly proves your thinking wrong and redirect the dialogue with more petty-minded examples of your prejudice.

                    Your posts are unworthy of any attention or respect.

                    bigotry |ˈbigətrē|
                    noun
                    bigoted attitudes; intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself : the report reveals  right-wing bigotry. See note at bias.


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            2. lovemychris profile image80
              lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              OMG--when I first saw that I thought it was Russsssshhhhhhh!! Ahaha...do you THINK he molded himself after Archie? Oh, that would be too funny....

              Because you know:
              "Limbaugh continues to refer to Michelle Obama as "Moochelle." He thinks she has a weight problem."

              awwwwwww, a weight problem huh? Errrrrrrrr------look in the mirror much?

              But come come...we all know what he means by mooch. Same old stereotype, eh Russssshhhhhhhh?

              Yeah...you cons really have no leg to stand on there when you cry about people stereotyping you.
              Cue Beckles: *sniff* *sniff*  waaaaaaaa

          2. Quilligrapher profile image90
            Quilligrapherposted 4 years ago in reply to this


            Hi Long.  Actually, I didn’t need to do better. The word is quite appropriate to describe the tone and content of your remarks and it has nothing to do with my political bent or yours.
            lol lol lol lol lol

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              Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Opinions are like rectums, Quill. Everybody's got one. And your opinion of my remarks matter to me about as much what comes out of said rectum.

              lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
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  14. WD Curry 111 profile image60
    WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago

    Shhh! The plan is secret. We are centralizing the banking system.

                  http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTIWSyqli44Y8Rj-XOIl7tHY_rB6HOjeMkfyR9OZCtWezTNhZaA

  15. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    Not so secret:

    https://www.facebook.com/MassResignatio … 2374336051

    Have you heard the new one going around the net? Google Wilcock and Drake...pretty wild stuff.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjZgsRt8PBc

  16. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 4 years ago

    The presidents of these days don't give a damn about law. They pretty just make it up as they go along. War, torture, mayhem, imprisonment, with the
    congress passing laws after the fact to keep up.

    1. Jason Marovich profile image88
      Jason Marovichposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Imagine you get elected as President and report for duty on your first day at the White House.  You're trying hard not to be overwhelmed and focus on doing your duty.  Now imagine, one, two, and three years later.  Not much has changed.

      There's a Presidential mold or model in place when a President first arrives at the White House so they don't sit there wondering where to start.  Sure, Presidents get to advance their agendas to some extent, but the idea that they walk in and take over the course the US is on is unrealistic and impossible.  One person can't do everything at once, there's just too much going on.

  17. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago

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    1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
      WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      The Hillbilies will be offended. Fox news is for well educated Yankees.

    2. PJ Jones profile image60
      PJ Jonesposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Wizard..you should really start an on line T-shirt sale!

    3. Paul Wingert profile image79
      Paul Wingertposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      LOL

      1. Paul Wingert profile image79
        Paul Wingertposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Yessery! I can't live with my daily injection of BS! Yee Haw!

  18. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 4 years ago

    This president doesn't work for the president. He works for the oligarchy, or as they say now, the
    one percent. Look at it that way, and all his actual deeds as opposed to his BS, makes perfect sense.

    1. Jason Marovich profile image88
      Jason Marovichposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Well, that's the problem isn't it?  Has anyone else been spammed by Presidential candidates yet?  It costs money to spam, ironically.  Money is the oligarchy, deity, or whatever other label you want to apply.  Because the US election system allows for such leniency where advertising/promotional matters are concerned, there will always be accusations on all sides of foul play.

      I doubt any of us are so naive as to believe the President actually has time to get involved with e-mails and commercials, much as we'd like to believe he is reaching out to each of us personally.

      When election years impend, sitting Presidents are mildly distracted, but their schedules don't allow for many e-mails or commercials wink

      1. Jean Bakula profile image97
        Jean Bakulaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Elderly people don't always have photo ID. My husband and I are both 56, and we didn't have photos on our driver's licenses until after 9/11. Taking voting booths out of college campuses makes it so many young people can't vote. In populated states like NJ and NY, students are not allowed to have cars on campus until Jr. or Sr. year. The R's are doing their best to make sure D's can't vote, any group who traditonally does vote D. A large proportion of older people can't produce photo ID, and the R's are usually the ones who have the largest amount of "dead" voters.

        1. Jason Marovich profile image88
          Jason Marovichposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Our great system of laws depends on more than just one fraction of the population advancing them.  The basic problems we face are, one, as you say, the lack of identification in the inner city (an example), and two, the need to account for legitimate voting.  We're beyond NYC voting boxes and so forth.  We must ensure one citizen gets only one vote, and in the 21st Century and beyond, that might prove tricky.

          1. Dr Billy Kidd profile image92
            Dr Billy Kiddposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I keep wondering if the idea of one person/one vote is dead. When I think that a corportation is now legally a person, and that it will never die, and has the right to spend millions to sway the voters in every state to elect politicians who will give it breaks or kickbacks--this really is no match for the little guy.

            1. Jason Marovich profile image88
              Jason Marovichposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Now, there's a real threat to the Constitution.

  19. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    Don't forget this guy with secrets:

    Mitt Romney spent nearly $100,000 in state funds to replace computers in his office at the end of his term as governor of Massachusetts in 2007 as part of an unprecedented effort to keep his records secret

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … z1rjkZhtmz

    maybe he learned that trick at Bain capital, from his boss-lady, of the Mossad wink

    1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
      WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Not to mention . . . he is really a marionette.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        He sure walks like one. What is that? quick quick quick little steps.

        Anyway--I think it's safe to say he has "palled around with terrorists" --only Palin won't mention it--so I have to.

        sigh--I always have to do the right's job for them smilesmile

        Oooops, strike that: Santorum did a dang good job himself...and I mean that sincerely. He was spot on about Romney.

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Sounds like a good move to me, LMC. Something I think we'd both consider if in the same situation.

  20. SoManyPaths profile image60
    SoManyPathsposted 4 years ago

    Typical politics from Romney. It won't work though since many voters don't fall for ** like that. Romney is campaigning like he is in the 70s or 80s and this generation doesn't go for that. 
    Obama making agreement with so-called enemies. Well, I think he sees that Russia and other emerging countries have better importing and exporting agreements than we do and to compete we MUST begin to reach out and end embargos and tariffs that should've been done years ago. He wants America to be liked again and not just create wars. "O" does spend a lot though. I'd like to see more jobs back home and infrastructure.

  21. JSChams profile image61
    JSChamsposted 4 years ago via iphone

    Hey contests Longhunter! You got them to say racist which means you won the argument as they had no intelligent reply!

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, I know. We get a black president and he's supposedly going to bring us all together and racism will be a thing of the past. Great concept if it had worked. I would have loved to see that happen.

      Problem is, every time we disagree with Obama's policies or his Socialist "spread the wealth" ideology, they scream "racist" to try to shut us up. Unfortunately, their methods are doing nothing but increase racism.

  22. JSChams profile image61
    JSChamsposted 4 years ago via iphone

    I recall thinking no one could possibly be more divisive than Bill Clinton. Boy was I wrong.

  23. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    Hate to tell you, but electing a black man has just brought out the racism that was always there festering. Obama can't help it if some people don't like the fact that he's black . Not his fault. Same way if we had a woman prez, I'm sure all the negatives would come out after her too. And you forget the American people voted him in.
    So, I'm thinking this minority of racists--of all colors-- will be squashed by the weight of the rest of us, who have WAY more to worry about then the color of our president's skin. Or his/her gender. Or his/her religion.

    BTW--speaking of shutting people up by using stereotypes--really, just to smear them--Allen West says there are 81 members of the "Democrat"....IT'S DEMOCRATIC! party who are ......drumroll......wait for it.......Communists!

    The Red Scare! The old tried and true smear-du-jour.

    What a butt-hat.

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      BTW--speaking of shutting people up by using stereotypes--really, just to smear them--Allen West says there are 81 members of the "Democrat"....IT'S DEMOCRATIC! party who are ......drumroll......wait for it.......Communists!

      Wow, I would have thought that number would be far higher.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Of course you would....because cons can call people names and use stereotypes all day long, but god forbid anyone do it to them.

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Come on, LMC. That's never stopped you and you know it. It hasn't stopped a lot of Dems, Liberals, and /or Socialists here on HP.

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            No---so why do you complain? Every time someone says they like Obama, or are a Democrat, or a liberal...they are automatically labeled a socialist.
            But you say something very racists--in my view, and when someone calls you on it---you don't like it.

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              Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              First of all, I was just tweaking you a little bit. No harm intended.

              If you're referring to what Quill said, me? Offended or unhappy? I wasn't offended or mad. I simply told him what I thought of his opinion.

              My comments weren't racist, LMC. Stereotypical of what a third world bus ride looks like? Yes. But not racist. Just trying to find a bit of humor about what I observed during my 2 hour wait to be summoned by the DMV diva for an audience. That, and my state should not be handing out driver licenses to people who can't even provide a birth certificate, something all Tennesseans have to do to obtain a license. I only wish I'd had a video camera for the evidence.

              Also, I've been "labeled" numerous times here on HP, LMC. Some good. Some bad. The good ones are okay and the bad ones mean nothing. It's just that simple.

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    buddhaanalysisposted 4 years ago

    to screw developing country is agenda of every american president.

    1. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Didn't use to be buddha...we've been infiltrated.

  25. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    "Every US Politician should be for America first and to hell with the rest of the world."

    That would take an immediate removal of 330 members.

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Your number's off, LMC. There's not that many Dems in Congress.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Don't kid yourself....they're not all Dems.

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          IMHO, we need to clean them ALL out along with their staff and the lobbyists.

          1. amberld profile image88
            amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I agree, all the lobbyists need to go and most of the politicians. Lobbying needs to be a job of the past.

          2. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I don't agree. Many are hostage to the system. Get money out....first step: Remove Citizens United. Second step:  Remove AIPAC. Third step: Remove NRA. That's my own personal solution.

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              Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Lets also do away with:

              ACLU

              MoveOn.org

              La Raza

              Any group lobbying for unions

            2. amberld profile image88
              amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Citizens united needs to go badly.

              1. lovemychris profile image80
                lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Yes--that is crucial.

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                  Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  As is the ACLU and MoveOn.org.

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                  Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  From Citizens Untied website:

                  Who We Are
                  Citizens United is an organization dedicated to restoring our government to citizens' control. Through a combination of education, advocacy, and grass roots organization, Citizens United seeks to reassert the traditional American values of limited government, freedom of enterprise, strong families, and national sovereignty and security. Citizens United's goal is to restore the founding fathers' vision of a free nation, guided by the honesty, common sense, and good will of its citizens.

                  Okay, LMC and amberld, I'm not trying to be confrontational but why would you be against that?

                  1. amberld profile image88
                    amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    I am not opposed to what they are saying on their website that you quoted. I am opposed to the fact that now with the Citizens United ruling, corporations can put unlimited moneys into campaigns, which I believe influences elections. I believe elections should be publicly and equally funded for all sides, I don't believe corporations should be allowed to throw money into campaign advertising.

  26. JSChams profile image61
    JSChamsposted 4 years ago via iphone

    I am personally just a little curious to how close to the correct number Allan West actually is. There are a number who have owned up to being Socialist. This also right after a speech by the president including the part where he says we tried the free market. So what is the free market alternative?
    Socialism of course.

    1. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Can we ask how many are bigots too? That's what I would like to know.

      1. JSChams profile image61
        JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Oh that's easy. Just gather up all the Democrats in the House and Senate and there you go. Race is all these people talk about. That and class warfare. When you have no real ideas that's where it all ends up.

        1. lovemychris profile image80
          lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          To me, you are in Bizarro world. And I must be to you.

          Funny, isn't it?

          Because I can substitute R where you put D, and totally agree with you!

          1. amberld profile image88
            amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            In my experience, the racist people that I have known have not been Democrats. That is just my experience, but truly the only racist people I know claim to be Republicans. was gonna make a bizarro world comment earlier. lol!

            1. JSChams profile image61
              JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Well, actually, my voter registration card still says Democrat. I never bothered changing it after i grew up and realized I was a Conservative. i grew up in a VERY Democrat household with a family full of them including all the family friends and I heard more bigotry than i have ever heard from all Conservatives combined. I was there dear.

              1. amberld profile image88
                amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                I have also heard with my own ears, Republicans talk about other races as animals. I have never heard a Democrat say as many demeaning things as I have heard come out of Republicans mouths.

                1. amberld profile image88
                  amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  just to clarify, I am not saying all Republicans are racist, I am saying all the racists that I know personally just happen to be Republicans.  have to respectfully  agree to disagree on this one.

    2. PJ Jones profile image60
      PJ Jonesposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Allen West is systematic of what Ann Coulter said when asked how she felt about "Black Republicans" , she stated, "I can't say anything about them, they have too many problems".

      1. amberld profile image88
        amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Ann Coulter is hideous "Take away a woman's right to vote and we'll never have to worry about another Dem in the White House". Yeah, good luck selling that one Ann, I've voted in every election since I was 18 and will until I die. How dare she even imply that is something that should be done!

        1. lovemychris profile image80
          lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          "Give muslims the choice: convert or die".

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image69
      Ralph Deedsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      "There are a number who have owned up to being Socialist."

      I'm not aware of any members of the House who have "owned up to being socialists." Senator Bernie Sanders is the only member of Congress I'm aware of who calls himself a socialist.

  27. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    Ha! Barney Frank, on Dufus West comment:

    "I ask people, when you hear something so breathtakingly dumb and vicious as that, how do people expect us to be able to work out some compromise with him?" Frank said. Asked why he felt West's comments were "vicious," Frank said it is because communism has historically been a doctrine of repressing people's rights.

    "It is exactly the opposite of those of us in the Congressional Progressive Caucus who are in support of freedom, in support of democracy, in support of people's basic rights and civil liberties," he said. "Communism is really a reference to some of the worst human rights abuses of our time ... It is meant to delegitimize people and allow no basis for debate. It's a very nasty label."

    He added, "I very much object to being associated with Stalin or Khrushchev."

    *************************************

    Now I know why I have such a visceral feeing towards Kochs too! Did you know, their father got rich working for Stalin? My grandfather left Lithuania because of that Stalin.....and Koch Sr made his riches with him.
    All so his sons could come here and destroy this beautiful country with their polluting filth!~

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I can't believe anyone would consider Barney Frank and good example of anything. He single handedly screwed our housing market.
      Not to mention being the only man over 50 I am aware of claims to not know what a marijuana leaf looks like. he made that statement while his boyfriend was being hauled off for having them growing in his backyard. Barney was staying with him.

    2. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      While we are at it he can object to whatever he likes and stuff it in a certain place. Back during the summer town halls a couple years ago you could not find a more condescending individual than Barney Frank. He cannot leave Congress soon enough.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I'm sad he's leaving. Frank and Kucinich....losing 2 liberal voices, that's sad.
        It was the redistrcting that did them both in.
        Repub dirty tricks. Nothing new.

        All I can say is.....Go Grayson!

        1. JSChams profile image61
          JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Alan Grayson should be sued be his constituents for doing not one single thing but turning the House floor into his own personal left wing blog. That's it, nothing else.

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            He fought for the people against greed. He was really good during the fed hearings. He, Issa, Kucinich, Kaptur, Sanders....woooooo!

            1. JSChams profile image61
              JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              He was a leftist a**.
              He did no one any good which was why he served one term. And won't be back.

        2. PJ Jones profile image60
          PJ Jonesposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Yeh..go Grayson, maybe this he won't tell blatent  ..lies..oh republicans lie too...why did it hur Grayson so bad.?

  28. Reality Bytes profile image93
    Reality Bytesposted 4 years ago

    Citizens United is being revisited by the SCOTUS:

    http://www.care2.com/causes/finally-sup … nited.html

    1. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Now that is interesting. These far right justices who most probly are big 10th amendment guys have it thrown in their face!

  29. JSChams profile image61
    JSChamsposted 4 years ago

    Oh but I have. Do you have any public examples of what you say?

    1. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Have you been sleeping since 06 and a half???

  30. donotfear profile image90
    donotfearposted 4 years ago

    I think that Obama's hidden agenda lies within the messages he receives through the water heater in his White House bathroom.

    http://www.paranormal-news.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/green-man1.jpg

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Hey wasn't that one of Kucinich's friends. He was abducted you know. They made fun of it in a Frasier episode.

    2. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this
  31. amberld profile image88
    amberldposted 4 years ago

    I couldn't even watch all the clips, people calling Obama a monkey- people's children calling him a monkey! These people are truly offensive. I remember the skinheads I saw in the crowd at the Republican convention for McCain. I was appalled then, and am still appalled by these people. Utterly disgusting to call people animals.

    1. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Yup...how soon they forget and act like WE are the crazy ones.

      Man...one day they will learn....there is such a thing as tape. All you have to do is go back and revisit it!

      Mushroom cloud....
      Bin-Laden was working with Saddam....

      I will always stand for a woman's right to choose......

      Etc Etc Etc.

  32. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago
  33. WD Curry 111 profile image60
    WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago

    All of these rumors! Muslim? Arab? Nigerian? Conspiracy?

                https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBUy0_8S8Pz9JkTMfH5nzl7EObEpzook8Rrgb5Oz3KGlrtAxsFWw

            https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRGEhUYSz0DfjZLIV8-9RsOvSJLeOhToPn02wXXXJw8e0ErNJvcqA

    Part Irish . . . all Irish! Have you never heard of the "Black Irish?"

  34. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    How about American. Can you admit that??

    bet a lot of you can't.

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      There's a huge difference between being an American by place of birth and what's in one's heart, LMC.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        And you know his heart.....how exactly?

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Dismiss it as I'm sure you will, LMC, but it's the impression a lot of Americans have that Barack Hussein Obama hates this country and it's Constitution.

          Yes, I believe he would like nothing more than to change the Constitution at the stroke of his pen or do away with it all together.

          I DO NOT BELIEVE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS AN AMERICAN IN HIS HEART NO MATTER WHERE HIS MOMA WAS WHEN SHE PLOPPED HIM OUT.

          I know you won't like that but, guess what, we still have freedom of speech in this country.

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            You have freedom of speech.
            If I had said that from 2000-2008, I would have been lambasted for being an Anti-American Traitor.

            Guess being American in heart or otherwise depends on what party you belong to huh?


            At least you R's have given me the freedom to never ever even pay lip-service to respecting the office of POTUS.

            ubba ubba ubba ubba...that's all folks
            http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=loo … FORM=VIRE1

            1. amberld profile image88
              amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              forgot the Dixie Chicks were labled traitors weren't they when they spoke anti Bush. oh how soon we forget. Free speech is a great thing, but it shouldn't be used to belittle people.

              1. lovemychris profile image80
                lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Love that answer!

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                Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Some labeled them as traitors. I did not. I just thought they were stupid for shooting themselves in the foot commercially. That didn't bother me as I thought their music was crap anyway.

                It's simple, Amber, you don't say what she said and expect the base of country music to support you. It was stupid, commercial suicide.

                1. amberld profile image88
                  amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  true, and that also backs up my earlier response about respecting the President. I would never consider a president the enemy. I try to give them the benefit of the doubt that they are doing the best they can with what they're given. I have to believe they have the best of the country in their heart or they wouldn't take such a rough job, lord knows, I would not want it. For that, I give them all respect.

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                    Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    I don't give my respect blindly to a position such as POTUS. Respect is something earned, not given. Barack Hussein Obama had done anything but.

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              Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              You might have been lambasted by some but not from me. I would have disagreed but that would have been the extent of it.

              Guess being American in heart or otherwise depends on what party you belong to huh?

              No, It has nothing to do with political party. At least not to me. To me it has to do with whether or not one believes in the Constitution thus the reason I don't believe Barack Hussein Obama is an American in his heart.

              As to respecting the office of POTUS, I respect the office, just not the current "occupant."

    2. WD Curry 111 profile image60
      WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Irish, get it? Don't look now . . . you already missed it.

      1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
        WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Is this better?

        https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQcKIKGWLjOFCAHkKTNUjfEz3eP8cqAK6dMEtvU7LN95KlhiOJT

                            "Don't tell them, Dad!"

        1. lovemychris profile image80
          lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          One more time: Is he an American...yes or no?

          1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
            WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Looks American to me.

            https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRRrWi0FwbGBeSiJiIVYvMsdympTn2HIbGVuSPNwdFWFpAun9qi

            1. lovemychris profile image80
              lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Is that a yes or a no?

              Nice pic btw.

              1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
                WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                http://slapnpop.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/obama-hawaii.jpg?w=150&h=150

                The Hawaiians say Obama is the first Hawaiian president. They claim he was born there. It is no matter. If the Hawaiians see your stoke and recognize your aloha, they may accept you as an Hawaiian. If they do, you are now an Hawaiian. You can see his stoke and he has the aloha spirit. So, Obama is Hawaiian. The Hawaiians know!

                http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/12/25/us/25obama0.600.jpg

                1. lovemychris profile image80
                  lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  You just can't answer it can you?

                  1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
                    WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    I did answer it. Maybe you should take my wisdom course. Lesson one . . . "How to Lighten Up". He is more American than you are.

      2. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Do you admit he's an American or not?

        And yes, I know. He has Irish blood. And the people of Ireland were proud of it. Let me geuss....they're all a bunch of commie muslims.

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    idratherbeposted 4 years ago

    I'd be interested to know what Mitt Romney's "secret agenda is?" I've yet to hear his plan.

    1. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      He already said "if I tell them--they wouldn't vote for me." or something like that.
      All we know for sure is more tax cuts for the very rich, and more benefit cuts for those in need.

      1. amberld profile image88
        amberldposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        not sure what it is either, but I have read that his policies are much worse for the middle class than Ron Paul's. Paul's budget is much more "middle class friendly" than Romney's.

  36. Mighty Mom profile image92
    Mighty Momposted 4 years ago

    I believe Obama's secret agenda is to unveil a US unemployment rate of 4.99% sometime late summer at the same time gasoline prices drop to $2.15 a gallon.
    I believe Obama has the power to singlehandedly effect these changes because he is the POTUS and we expect no less from him.

    He is simply waiting for the strategic moment. He hasn't revealed his secrets yet because he has learned (the hard way) that our untrusting populace has a short and selective memory and are wont to forget or minimize his actions (see Osama bin Laden execution for reference).

    I believe Mr. Obama has been studying his timing by watching the masters like O'Brien, Letterman, and Maher.
    If you recall the moment when he finally whipped out the old HI BC, this will be a lot like that. Only bigger and badder.












    smile
    Well, you asked! I am as entitled to my version of the OSA (Obama Secret Agenda) as much as the next prognosticator!

  37. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago

    The tone of your DMV posts were anything but jovial, LH and the schizophrenic comment of mine was indeed a joke to describe the contradictions in some of the viewpoints you take. 

    My mother is dead and at peace, thanks. And I wish you peace . . . and more tolerance of those who are  less fortunate and intelligent.

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      That's what I don't understand about Liberals, Dems, etc. Since I'm a Christian Conservative, I'm expected to be just like all other Christan Conservatives. It's not that simple, Wizard.

      My grandmother is at peace as well. My other grandmother had Alzheimer's, lived to be almost 102, and she's at peace also. It's a shame what these insidious diseases take from a person and the ones that love them. Peace and God Bless.

      1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
        WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this
      2. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
        Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        LH, whatever way you want to label me is fine, but please know that some people in my family, whom I love and care about,  were and are ignorant, racists, bigots, hypocrites and fools. 

        But if you are going to label yourself a "Christian," I'm compelled to point out that the only people Christ would not tolerate were the moneychangers in the temple—otherwise, he associated with (and evidently got along with) the ignorant, tax-collectors,  prostitutes and all other forms of sinners.  He also said judge not lest you be judged. 

        Nor do I have a problem with you being conservative and I especially identify with your impulse to preserve what's best about America—especially its generosity of spirit.  But many of the so-called "Christian Conservatives" I've come across are often closed-minded zealots who are neither tolerant of others who differ in view or Christian towards people of other faith. 

        I'm not saying all Conservative Christians are that way, but if any objective person reads many of your posts, I think they would view you as someone who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.  Sorry if this upsets you—I believe it to be true but I am not judging you, rather, I focus on your rhetoric and not the person.

        Beyond that, you never seem to give reasonable and rational  argumentation when it comes to Obama.  It's always in the form of calumny and misinformation, mixed with vitriolic personal opinion. You are, in some ways, like my Rush-fanatic brother-in-law who is an insecure, unfulfilled angry little man (with a heart of gold) and his own worst enemy.  That is to say, he's a tedious pain in the ass who habitually wallows in his unhappiness by acting out and ruining every conversation at the holiday dinner table.

        https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/64723_3494216755827_1283817210_3460954_1347068990_n.jpg

        https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392523_3704530013527_1283817210_3558213_635667702_n.jpg

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I put "etc." because you don't "fit" in any one particular group. Neither do I.

          I can also assure you I'm no "moneychanger." My money changes from my hands to the people and companies I owe money to. That's it.

          I've stated on here many times, Wizard, what my views are on other people's religions or lack there of. Their business, not mine, and I'm not going to hit anyone over the head with my Bible either.

          For those that view me "as someone who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk," that's their problem. I'm okay with that. I consider "my walk" to be between me and my God just as yours is with yours, if you have one. I'm not perfect, just forgiven.

          When it comes to your comparison of me to your brother-in-law, you're wrong, Wizard.

          I use to listen to Rush, Beck, and Hannity but it began to depress the hell out of me. Especially Beck. Good Lord, that man's intense!

          I'm a happy person, Wizard, with normal, everyday problems that I handle with the help of my God and my beautiful bride. Believe me, I know when I'm being a "pain in the ass" and I'm probably doing it intentionally and mostly for fun.

          When it comes to Obama, I just don't like the man, Wizard. He's not a good leader and, IMHO, hates the Constitution, thinking of it as a wall he'd love to tear down to get his way. (He's more than a little on the narcissistic side.) He just doesn't have the same values as an American that I do and I don't want him as my president. I don't trust him. It's really as simple as that, Wizard.

          BTW, I like the top cartoon. That's a sermon I've never heard in my church. My preacher peaches on the word of God, not Obama.

          1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
            Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I understand, Obama sends you up the wall and it has to do with human chemistry—I feel the same way about "W" and I had to accept him and his thugs for eight years—and he did "destroy" the constitution—along with the economy and America's standing in the world.

            Nevertheless, Obama is a trained Harvard lawyer who taught constitutional law, so I don't think your claim that he (Obama): " hates the Constitution" is based on anything but specious personal projection.

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              Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              he did "destroy" the constitution—along with the economy and America's standing in the world

              roll

              And this what the other side thinks of Obama.

              Have a good weekend, Wizard.

              1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
                Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Thanks LH, but your side has no proof and the facts are clear about "W."

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                  Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Now, how did I know you'd say that? big_smile

                  1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
                    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Because the facts trump opinion every time!  smile

  38. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    Friess and Adler, 2 Americans who have basically threatened Obama....hello! Where is the action?

    What is it? Do they OWN the Secret Service TOO?

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      Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      The Secret Service is probably taking the same action they did all those people were threatening Bush. Oh, wait, you didn't have a problem with that...Right?

      Maybe they have the word "Secret" in their name for a reason. Thanks for the laugh though.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        BS! 2 guys were arrested for an anti-Bush bumper sticker. And Sheehan was arrested for a t-shirt.

        Far as I see...nothing is being done about high-profile people who threaten Obama...maybe it's a warning from the shadow powers...who probly LUV ole Mittens.

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          Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Was anybody arrested for this?

          http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0853096/

          If someone did something like this about Obama, you would be raising $900 worth of hell.

          It's wrong either way, LMC.

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    Longhunterposted 4 years ago

    I agree, Wizard. This country is VERY divided, in no small part thanks to Obama.

    I'm beginning to think the best way to fix this whole thing is to actually divide it. We can divide all the stuff (states) and take it to two separate houses (countries). A legal separation shall we say. Divorce.

    There can be the United States of America where the people live by the Constitution as our Founding Father intended.

    Then there could be the Socialist States of America where the people set up a government where they can prove over and over and over again that Socialism does NOT work. Just remember, the SSA gets Obama no matter what.

    How does that sound, Wizard?

    1. Druid Dude profile image60
      Druid Dudeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Obama's secret agenda is this. To confuse his opponents. O.K. so, everybody is confused...now what?

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        Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Obama's opponents are the American people and the Constitution. The Constitution is the only way this country will survive and the people that support that Constitution aren't confused, just pissed.

        1. Druid Dude profile image60
          Druid Dudeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Funny...I thought that is what the Supreme Court was for. How long you been on it? They don't seem terribly upset. Maybe they aren't ALL CONSERVATIVES!

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            Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            The president is suppose to mean it when he swears "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."

            Sorry, but I don't get the impression the above oath meant very much to the current "occupant" of the Office of POTUS.

            1. PJ Jones profile image60
              PJ Jonesposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Why?

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          Brenda Durhamposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Amen.

      2. WD Curry 111 profile image60
        WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        England becomes the fifty first state. Ireland and Scotland become fifty two and three. Wales is annexed to West Virginia.

        1. Will Apse profile image89
          Will Apseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Even West Virginia doesn't deserve Wales.

    2. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
      Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      In a word, ridiculous.

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        Longhunterposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        It was a JOKE, dude!!! It's Friday!!! Lighten up!!!

  40. JSChams profile image61
    JSChamsposted 4 years ago via iphone

    Hey Longhunter. I have a hub about the left taking a territory and running it 100% as they please. It would be a hoot to watch. Like other Communist nations you would never hear if it failed.

  41. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    How'd Mussolini do?

    Muss baby----meet the GOP 2012.

    first step: may I see you papers please?

  42. JSChams profile image61
    JSChamsposted 4 years ago via iphone

    LMC your beloved Obama administration is up to it's ears in potential rights removal right now. Ever hear of NDAA?

    1. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah...every president since its inception signed it. But suddenly it's the boogie man. RMoney supports it, as does Alan West.....why don't you harangue them?

      1. JSChams profile image61
        JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        This particular bunch has already shown a marked propensity for tyranny.
        Ask the CEO of Gibson Guitars.(Why did they get raided by the way?)

        Ask the people who were physically and sometimes violently harassed by his foot soldiers at the town hall meetings.

        Ask why we have to be called racist while he maintains an openly racist Attorney General.

  43. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    1. Don't know

    2. Laughable. It was T-baggers who harassed people at meetings. And they had to bring guns to prove it.

    3. Total dis-info. oh--here's a teeny clue: did you watch any of those vids I posted yesterday? *shhhhhhh*...hate to tell you: those people are racists!

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      What guns where? Hope you don't mean when MSNBC stepped in it.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I have to think you were asleep or out of the country between 2006 and a half and now.

        1. JSChams profile image61
          JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          We have been here before. If you are gonna roll out something like that you have to show me. Like I'm from Missouri...
          And I hope it;s better than your last where you showed me videos of fringe weirdos that I am not even certain weren't fake.
          There was a case where MSNBC had this big big big big big, did I say big story where they had caught them a "white supremacist" at a Tea Party thing with a rifle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
          Turned out to be  a black man with a rile in Arizona where open carry is legal and they cropped all but his back and his rile out of the shot. But what di tou expect from the progressives? They gots nothin.

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            I know enough to know nothing is ever going to break through your mind. I could show you videos all day....literally!, and you would still make excuses for it.

            Yerah---I know....ALL those people were faking it, because they knew someday some person was going to use them to show fake racism.....


            Live in your universe, I'll stay in mine.

            1. JSChams profile image61
              JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Oh come on you surely have some of those snaggle toothed folks with guns don't you?

              No, I knew you didn't. I have been Conservative for about 20-25 years now. NEVER...have I met anyone like the folks you had video of and I am sure I never will.

              This has historically been the way rallies have gone.
              The Tea Party or Beck's bunch have a function. No arrests, no trouble. The folks in charge of whichever facility and grounds comment it was left cleaner tan when their guests arrive.
              Then you have the left which in many case narrowly avert full scale riot as they are whipping folks into a frenzy. When asked they don't know what they are doing:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8Nkn_Hn … plpp_video

              People are not threatening others lives at the Conservative events unlike this:

              http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

              There be problems on both sides and I know because I have been on both sides. Get Marx and Alinsky out of my party. Then maybe I will return . there will be an interview process.

  44. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    "Out of the Obamas' nearly $800K Income, 20.5% went to taxes, and 21% went to charity (via PBS @NewsHour)." http://j.mp/HEsLvc

    Romney made 21.5 mil and paid 14%.
    26 corporations paid 0 income tax at all.

    Certain segments are robbing the US of A, and want to give themselves MORE leeway to take!

    Which God says take from the poor so that you can be proud when you meet your Heavenly Father? Just curious.

  45. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago

    Hypocrites-R-Us Department:


    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/156442_10150673985496275_177486166274_9788731_501867778_n.jpg

  46. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    This country is full of sickos. Think about that.

    1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
      WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_gKzxVxK0wRg/S8-RyMUzRSI/AAAAAAAABV0/YZt3o0gslhQ/s1600/sickos.jpg

      We aren't alone in this.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        They think Obama's an "N"th too?

        1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
          WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Sure.
          http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/00012/APTOPIX_JAPAN_OBAMA__12474e.jpg

  47. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    I think I have a god commercial for y'all. Code Words-are-Us.

    I'm on to it. Have been since 1991.

  48. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago

    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/540558_10150674134106275_177486166274_9789391_1488875511_n.jpg

    1. WD Curry 111 profile image60
      WD Curry 111posted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Back then? A McDonald's cheese burger, an order of fries and a shake would cost almost a dollar. Forget the apple pie. It did not exist yet. It was a successful marketing strategy!

      1. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Obama's secret agenda: Four more years. SSSSHHHHHH! It's a secret!smile

  49. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago

    I showed you myriads of them...it went in one ear and out the other.

    Dems don't need you...stay where you belong.

    1. JSChams profile image61
      JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You never showed one Tea Party event with guns. You now that.
      You listen to the Marxist/Alinksites and that's where you get this crap.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        WRONG! You said none of the people who are anti-Obama were racists.....I showed you just how many really were.

        Those are the videos I'm refering to, as you well know. And if you don't know that TP'er brought guns to Obama rallies...you HAVE been asleep. look it up yourself...I've done enough to prove my point...and it's of no use. I could say the sky is blue, and you would say I only see blue because Marx said so.

        Like I said before---you stay in your universe, I'll stay in mine. They are not remotely alike in any way.

        1. JSChams profile image61
          JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Well you were mistaking me then because I called on you to produce video of Tea Party folks with guns which you had just blathered about.
          I busted Media Matters 4 America for producing their own little videos and that crap you sent me with that family looked a lot like their work.

        2. JSChams profile image61
          JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Hey there is no shame that you failed. just call me a Racist! so I know for a fact you ran out of ideas and we will call it a day.

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            O K  R E A L  S L O W  F O R  Y O U......

            You said no one against Obama was a racist. I showed you they were. End of story.

            YOU didn't even come into the mix.

            1. JSChams profile image61
              JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Here. these are your friends:

              http://www.verumserum.com/?p=33490

              Now.....show me the same for mine.

              1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
                Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-UU5Sk5Qt60/S7UK2qrAtYI/AAAAAAAADG8/reWuNIB6dH4/s1600/obama-racist-latest.jpg

                http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_5oEQhzgp0_g/SwXBKz92DUI/AAAAAAAAABI/F__XbJJOdRc/s1600/3929070793_b480932b92.jpg

                https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/156249_388728617816511_113544412001601_1228039_866781892_n.jpg

                http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Anti+War+Demonstrators+Protest+Obama+Fundraiser+AQlnH1xjNpUl.jpg

                http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/0/0/6/6/0/9/tea-party-arkanses-shootings-obama-republicans-14918272505.jpeg

                http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQg8jCii8_NCd7htpdbZ_Zm7cYwieweUya1UCS0kX18puBAPb-wNg

                http://manoamondo.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/obama-hitler.jpg?w=590

                http://duanegraham.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/obama-nazi_comparison_-_tea_party_protest.jpg

                http://blog.christianitytoday.com/ctpolitics/upload/2008/09/obamawaffles.jpg

                http://vivirlatino.com/i/2008/05/ce429a6775_ltpShirtCurious08_051408-1.jpg

                http://campusledger.jccc.edu/system/files/imagecache/image-lightbox/images/phelps-young-04.jpg

                1. JSChams profile image61
                  JSChamsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  You must not have looked at that link. Look at it and try again. Mine was a list of OWS criminal acts....actual police reports.
                  Got any of those for the Tea Party?

                  1. Wizard Of Whimsy profile image61
                    Wizard Of Whimsyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    Don't change the point—are you saying these images don't  display racism, hatred,  bigotry and intolerance?

                    https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/156249_388728617816511_113544412001601_1228039_866781892_n.jpg

  50. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 4 years ago
 
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