Meet Editbot, Launching Today

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   RTalloniposted 9 years ago

   I gave the little guys that showed up on mine a quick check and it looks like they are doing their job well.  The only problem I ran into was that my hub on how to plagiarize indicates edit bot worked there but when I clicked to check on what it was a box popped up that said no errors were in the hub.  Maybe I was clicking through everything too fast and need to give it some time before going back.  Re the errors these new friends did attend to, yay!  I'm glad to see the little things I've missed all cleaned up and in nice tidy order.    From seeing the work they did I've also learned a little about the kinds of things I need to pay attention to because I tend to miss them…yay again!

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   Gloriousconfusionposted 9 years ago

   In general I'm quite impressed by Editbot's accuracy.  Quite a lot of my hubs have the robot next to them, but I've only found one error of mine - the rest were all in comments.  I do find it difficult to remember which hubs I've corrected and which ones not, but I hope that in good time there will be a way to remove the robot icon once everything is in order, even though we can't do that at present.

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   lbrummerposted 9 years ago

   I notice that when I click on a particular Hub on my Account page, that the title appears slightly highlighted.  Those that haven't been clicked on, aren't in this slight highlight.  This helped me remember where in the list I was when I went through the list of robot icon enhanced Hubs.  The second batch of robots hit this afternoon and I could still tell which ones I'd already gone through.
   
   But, since I may get more again tonight, or tomorrow, I highlighted, copied and pasted my complete list of Hubs to Microsoft Word.  Then I put an asterisks next to the ones that have been done.  Hopefully, if I get anymore robot icons this will save me time.   This may not be a perfect answer, but it'll have to do until something else comes along.

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   justholidaysposted 9 years ago

   Frankly, HubPages team, you should rather transfer the whole site on SSL certification instead of wasting Hubbers' time and yours with such silly things. Ok the editor on the Hub may be a good thing, but on comments, is beyond ridiculous.
   
   I'm pretty sure that on a https protocol, you're going to regain a big part of your lost traffic. SSL certification is one of the 2015 Google's considerations for indexing and traffic. It was not a joke.
   
   My opinion (from personal experience) which you are not forced to agree with.

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   DebMartinposted 9 years ago

   What a huge waste of my time. Could have better spent the time writing. Other people's comments are just that, their comments. What has HubPages come to that we have to correct comments. If there's a typo in a comment, I'm not going to correct it or delete it if it had good content. Anyone who spends any time on a computer knows how to read through a typo and forgive. Ugh!
   
   And as for MY writing in MY hubs. That's MY responsibility. I say let's all mind our own business and get back to creating good hubs. Those writers who have hubs full of errors will filter themselves out of the system because they create hubs that are difficult to read. Let the cream rise to the top and quit monitoring us all to death. I'm about done with HubPages!

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      William F. Torpeyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      The corporate need to continually increase profits trumps creative writing!

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   Greensleeves Hubsposted 9 years ago

   When I first heard about this editbot change I felt a bit annoyed because I'm really not keen on unsolicited tampering with my work. However, I did take a look at ALL my editbot reviewed hubs and my feelings are now rather more ambivalent. But still there are some important concerns. These are my thoughts:
   
   1) Regarding the 'Comments' section, in principle I did worry a lot about the ethics of altering someone else's words. However,  the edits are simple spelling corrections, and the hub writer does have the option to cancel the edit if we wish, so I can accept that. I do have a suggestion - when making a comment could we have longer than 5 minutes to review before the comment is sealed? Perhaps after writing a long comment this would give us more time to check for - and edit - spelling / grammatical errors, and less would then be discovered by the editbot.
   
   2) It took me hours to check through all the 'corrections' made to my hubs, even though none had more than 8 edits. But if you care about your hubs I would strongly suggest checking the edits because the editbot is FAR from perfect! There were several examples of this in my hubs. I'll mention two here: the singer 'Kiri Te Kanawa' was corrected to 'Kiri The Kanawa'! And a famous bridge in Venice correctly spelled as 'Ponte dell' Accademia' was incorrectly edited by the bot to 'Ponte dell' Academia' (one 'c').
   
   3) Direct quotes included in a hub which contain misspellings, will be corrected - the hub author may want to keep the misspelling so that the quote remains authentic.
   
   3) Anyone who is not American is entitled to take a lot of offence (or even offense) at this editbot. It does not recognise all British spellings. It insisted on correcting 'sceptical' to 'skeptical', and 'civilisation' to 'civilization'. I do often use Americanisms in my hubs to avoid misunderstandings ('trucks' instead of 'lorries' and 'elevators' instead of 'lifts' are two examples) but I draw the line at changing the spelling of words. Why should I have to use American spellings, or why should I have to go through all my hubs overruling the editbot?
   
   4) Some of the corrections seem unnecessarily trivial - 'over night' is corrected to 'overnight' and 'light hearted' to 'lighthearted'. The bot insists on adding accents such as changing 'decor' to 'décor' (although these accents are not even easily available to use in the comments section or indeed in this forum - I had to paste 'décor' from elsewhere to get the accent here).
   
   5) Spelling mistakes of course are picked up in the main body of the text, and that is good. I discovered I regularly write 'prominant' and 'occured', both of which are wrong. I won't make those mistakes again! But to be honest, errors like that should be picked up by the author before publishing if the text capsule spellchecker works effectively.
   
   To sum up, on the negative side, the editbot does cause some major irritations. On the positive side, it does highlight some spelling errors which have been overlooked. Do these errors if left uncorrected really make such a big impact on Google listings? If they do, then fair enough - keep the editbot (though it would be nice to have the facility to opt out if people wish to). But I would sincerely hope the editbot can be refined to take account of some of the concerns I've raised, and it is certainly essential that the hub author retains the right we have at present to overrule the editbot.
   
   I hope the staff can address some of these concerns about the editbot so it can be a positive and welcomed addition to the tools on HubPages.

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      Jodahposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      You make some very good points here. I hope staff take note.

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      Marina Lazarevicposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Wow! Thank you for the detailed feedback, Greensleeves Hubs. Very helpful as we work on the next version of the tool.

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         Greensleeves Hubsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for the acknowledgement Marina. It's appreciated. Alun

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   MsDoraposted 9 years ago

   So far, the corrections made on my hubs are all in the comments.  I appreciate the editbot changes since I could not do that myself.

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   paradigm searchposted 9 years ago

   Yesterday, Editbot informed me "kind hearted" was "kindhearted". But when I went into HubTool edit mode, the text still said "kind hearted". So I manually changed it to "kindhearted".
   
   Today, Editbot informed me "wheel chair" was "wheelchair". But when I went into HubTool edit mode, the text still said "wheel chair". So I manually changed it to "wheelchair".
   
   I was under the impression Editbot was supposed to change the actual text, not just change the displaying of the text.

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      janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Nope, it does not change the content. I foresee huge potential problems with this in relation or how the "modified" content is delivered to search engines and what the Google bot, etc. may do with TWO versions. SEE post below
      
      PS all the compound word issues are surely trivial - I'm sure Google does not see them as spelling mistakes. IMO

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         paradigm searchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

         I don't like that dual version at all... I guess I'll be going on a comment deletion spree after all...

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   janderson99posted 9 years ago

   The only sure way to get rid of Editbot symbols once and for all is to manually make changes in the content itself. For errors in comments - just deleted them. Also delete ones that have links in them as well. For hubs that ONLY have errors in the comments, you may need to make a tiny change in the content so that the hub is listed as "changed'. All hubs you fix will then have a new recent 'changed date.'
   
   =>>> If you do this you can keep track of the Editbot flags you have fixed because they will have their 'change date' updated. Then you can use sort by 'change date' to find the ones you have edited and the ones that remain.
   
   =>>> If you edit the hubs - this means that Editbot flags will not appear on your listings NEXT TIme - and this is highly likely. Also the flags will disappear when HP gets around to updating the tool.
   
   =>>> There are advantages in having CLEAN hubs that are not subject to the Editbot alteration - who knows how the Google bot will react to this?????
   
   It is a huge workload, but worthwhile IMO.

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      lobobrandonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Not through, if it's just comments that are edited it does not update the changed date. One of my hubs still says last updated December when it was actually editbotted yesterday.

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         janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

         Yep that is why I suggest you make a tiny edit to your content. While the hub is there it is a good idea to do a quick check anyway. You need an edit to change the date.

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            lobobrandonposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Oh that's what you meant. Gotcha

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    SarahLMaguireposted 9 years ago

    Most of the editbot's corrections on my hubs have been to try to push an Americanised spelling instead of British English which I use. I would prefer not to have my word choices interfered with by robots.
    I'm also slightly baffled by the idea of making corrections in the comments section, unless the idea is that any badly written text will cause pages to rank lower with search engines.
    
    Of course it would be useful to have any spelling errors or typos picked up, so I'm not dismissing the idea altogether, but at the moment it seems a bit of a sledgehammer approach. It's not as though potential errors aren't highlighted when we initially enter text into the hub text capsules.

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       makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       I live in the UK and routinely use British English(!) and I haven't come across one single correction in EditBot (as yet) re American English substituting for British English.
       
       Give us some examples of what you have experience

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          Colin Quartermainposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          One thats come up a few times on my hubs is civilisation vs civilization

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             makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

             Well in my part of the civilised world we spell it "civilisation".
             
             I thought Lord Clarke (of Civilisation) made that quite clear!
             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilisation_(TV_series)

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                Greensleeves Hubsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Civilisation is routinely 'corrected' to civilization by the editbot. Another change has been sceptical 'corrected' to skeptical.

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          SheilaMilneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Snorkelling was corrected to snorkeling

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             Greekgeekposted 9 years agoin reply to this

             Yes, it's turned traveller into traveler, benefitted into benefited, and so on. Apparently that double letter spelling which was still taught in American schools in the 80s has changed, baffling those of us taught to think of e after consonant as lengthening the previous vowel (quit, quite, for example).

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          TessSchlesingerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

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             Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

             I had to research this one, because my primary school teacher was a tyrant about spelling, and her lessons have stayed with me all my life!   I vividly recall being taught to lose the "e" when "judge" became "judgment", and that was in the UK in the 1950's. 
             
             http://grammarist.com/spelling/judgment-judgement/

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                TessSchlesingerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

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                   Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                   Yes, it is definitely around and becoming more accepted, but the original spelling was judgment.

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                      TessSchlesingerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

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                         janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                         By the way "learnt" is problematic vs learned.

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             makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

             One if Brit English http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defin … /judgement
             
             the other is American English
             http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defin … h/judgment
             
             The absolute overriding factor on spelling is the nationality of the author - because after all these are the author's own words and HubPages would not wish to undermine the integrity of the author or their reputation - would they?

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    Availiasvisionposted 9 years ago

    I like it so far. Hopefully this will change those pesky hubs that written in non-native English. When it shows 300 corrections, maybe non-fluent writers will see their errors. They bring down the expected quality of the whole site.

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    Ilonagardenposted 9 years ago

    That was fairly painless! It corrected a few typos, standardized the spellings of a few words and I think it is an improvement.

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    WriteAngledposted 9 years ago

    sceptical was turned to skeptical

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       makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       What! You're kidding?

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    Sue Adamsposted 9 years ago

    Unfortunarely and anavoidibly, common English is becoming American English. No use fighting it. In most cases, it shortens words:
    colour/color
    aeon/eon
    ageing/aging
    etc.
    
    Here is a long list:
    http://www.tysto.com/uk-us-spelling-list.html
    
    I'm all for it. Less to type!

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       WriteAngledposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       LOL, LOL, LOL!!!
       I have no fears on that score since English is rapidly becoming a minority language in the USA.

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       TessSchlesingerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

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          makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          No it hasn't!  Not where I live.

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    WriteAngledposted 9 years ago

    According to the Oxford Dictionary:
    "In British English the normal spelling in general contexts is judgement. However, the spelling judgment is conventional in legal contexts"
    
    According to the Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors:
    "judgement/,-al: a moral, practical or informal deduction, but judgment/,-al [law]: a judge's or court's formal ruling (and in US in all contexts)"
    The entry immediately following this is: Judgement Day, Last Judgement

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       Mark Ewbieposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       You are right of course. 
       
       I often try to use the few American spellings I know because the UK has no money.  There are only three people with jobs and one of them never uses the internet.
       
       So color is fine by me.  Judgment makes me wince but I try to think of the twenty cents or so this might make.

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       jansharesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks, WriteAngled. Never knew that.

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    paradigm searchposted 9 years ago

    Well, I didn't notice any new icons on my stats this morning. I guess they're taking a break and getting their little legs oiled.
    
    It would be nice to know when a redo of previous checks is planned. Presumably, if we've fixed or deleted the errors, the icon will then go away?

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    SarahLMaguireposted 9 years ago

    I've had the same sort of corrections people noted above - civilisation changed to civilization, judgement to judgment, fulfilment to fulfillment. If I were producing on-demand content writing, I would expect that level of editorial intervention, but on Hubpages I think we should be able to choose which conventions to follow on our own articles as long as they adhere to reasonable standards.

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    janderson99posted 9 years ago

    Given that Editbot is not a word and will be regarded as a misspelling, I have a new name - Bandaid ==> Trouble is the Bandaids cannot be removed even when the 'wounds' are healed!!

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       paradigm searchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       It's hard being a Hubber.

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       Greensleeves Hubsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Maybe if everyone writes 'editbot' enough times it will delete itself out of existence?

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          Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          hahahaha !
          
          editbot editbot editbot ... 

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    Stacie Lposted 9 years ago

    Looks like I'm one of the trials and thankfully most of the corrections were in the comments section. I have to tell others here to not take the bots word..they don't understand names. They changed my San Fransisco to San fransisco.   No correct obviously.

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       makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       I would have hoped they spelt it San Francisco!

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          DzyMsLizzyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          +1

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    Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years ago

    Editbot corrected the word naive to the same spelling of naive in one of my hubs.
    
    Editbot corrected a person's name in the comments. The name is Amke and editbot corrected to Make.
    
    This is a waste of time.

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    paradigm searchposted 9 years ago

    Almost 200 posts on this thread and not a single meme to be found. Excitement mounts...

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    William F. Torpeyposted 9 years ago

    Sorry. I just had to do it.

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    Enelle Lambposted 9 years ago

    Maybe you should just color me dumb because I can't seem to be able to correct the errors in the comments left on my hubs. I am finding this very irritating as I have to go through each and every hub to see if the error is mine and can be fixed.
    Not impressed with this bot at all

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    William F. Torpeyposted 9 years ago

    The "corrections" were made in the comments on one of my hubs (See if you can guess what's wrong):         
    1)   I wasntwasn't aloud to really comment or be biased ...
    (2)  I wouldntwouldn't be aloud to cover or write about ...

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       Enelle Lambposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       LMAO Now that's funny!

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    alancaster149posted 9 years ago

    Interesting anomaly, before 'Editbots' I'd enter, for example 1960's and that was accepted. I followed 'Editbot's' suggestion and removed the apostrophe. The ragged red line appeared under the corrected 1960s. Is that what's called a 'faux pas'?
    I also have a lot of vernacular spelling on a number of pages. The result - between the two - is I had 90 pages-worth of corrections to do. Been through ten so far, although some spellings picked out are historical references and I shan't touch them. No sense in 'standardising' (there's another one, in the Oxford English Dictionary there's an option to use either 'z' or 's', in Webster's obviously the choice isn't available.
    I think I'll just have to resign myself to a few 'bots' sprinkling the Account Page. Maybe i'll adopt them like stray cats or dogs.

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    Millionaire Tipsposted 9 years ago

    Does Editbot check summaries?  That seems to be a neglected, but important part of a hub.

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    Marisa Wrightposted 9 years ago

    I don't think that's a good description at all!   The errors are fixed - the original is shown purely so that we, the author, can reject the "fix" if we don't like it, surely.

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       janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       But the original content underneath the bandaid is not 'fixed' by the tick. The mechanism is to apply overlays or patches rather than change the original content or comments. It is a fix by patching. The 'here are the changes made" =>> "switch it back if you like" process is very annoying and disrespectful. Surely, proposing changes which the author accepts by ticking would have been better IMO. That is the approach adopted by most spell checkers.

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    Marisa Wrightposted 9 years ago

    Whether it's accept by ticking or reject by unticking, it would still be an overlay, surely.  So long as the overlay is not visible to Google or the reader I don't see why it's a problem.

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       janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       It is very messy. I suspect that Editbot will be run regularly, perhaps monthly with revised checks. More and more patches will appear on hubs and it will be impossible to tell the new ones from the old ones. New patches could appear for edits that the author makes or for revised 'rules' or 'dictionaries'. It would be better if the author had the ability to 'permanently' accept or reject the proposed changes. Currently, the only way to do this is to edit the original content (accepting the proposed changes or substituting 'appetizer' for 'entree', for example), and to delete the offending comments, which I have done. Changing the original is cleaner, and makes your hubs easier to manage going forward. In a way the 'thought police' are teaching us to be lazy. Don't worry about spelling and grammar anymore, Editbot will come to the rescue, and Hubpro Basic as well! Monkeys typing to produce Shakespeare comes to mind. 98% of the changes Editbot suggested on my hubs were trivial and unnecessary, because I run spell checkers and grammar checkers. So now I can cancel the subscriptions!

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          Millionaire Tipsposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Personally, I don't think it makes us lazy at all. I think it teaches those of us who think we know English, but have managed to repeat certain errors for so long that we no longer see them as errors.  I've learned through HubPages that I was using some words incorrectly.  Editbot has taught me to join together certain words, but right now, I'm not sure whether I am writing them incorrectly or whether both ways are acceptable.

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             janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

             Editbot says they are unacceptable, incorrect! e.g. bath tub => bathtub

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                janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                What I am learning is Editbot English and how to avoid bandaid patches in the future - e.g. use appetizer instead of entree, fry instead of saute, Trolox equivalent instead of the correct abbreviation TE, + American spellings of English words, plus not to use "try" followed by "and" even when totally correct -  e.g. try and try again, etc.

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    VirginiaLynneposted 9 years ago

    I'm wondering if it would be helpful for my Google rankings to go through all of my hubs and delete the comments that have errors.  My highest traffic hubs are about how to write for college and how to do kid's science experiments.  Both of those types of hubs tend to get a lot of poor grammar, incomplete sentences or spelling errors in the comments.  I've generally just left them but if they are hurting my rankings I'd like to delete them.  Does anyone know the answer?

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       Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       The whole point of editbot is that it should correct most of those errors for you, so you don't have to worry.

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       janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Editbot is the only way to fix them, without removing them. Presumably, the patches will hide the errors from Google's eyes. But I have deleted all of mine.

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    paradigm searchposted 9 years ago

    I'm guessing no new bot icons have shown up for over 24 hours now. In other words, HubPages is busily working on Editbot version 2.0 as we speak. It will all work out eventually.

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       janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       I predict they will not change the Dictionary much (= too hard basket), but will rely on authors clicking for reversions. Hopefully they will find a way to remove the Bandaids when authors have reviewed them (but some action is required by the author!!! for 'see and accept') OR authors have edited the original content so "no errors are found". But I suspect the same issues will crop up again next time the Editbot is run, if the original text has not been changed. The only way to stop this is to edit the original content to Editbot-friendly terms, and to delete flagged comments (both of which I have done). In that way Editbot will not find an "error" in future. Time will tell.

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    SusannaDuffyposted 9 years ago

    What I've learned from the editbot
    
    1. it corrects to American style English (ugh)
    
    2. It corrects the titles of books (absurd)
    
    3. it corrects Latin (absolutely absurd)

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    makingamarkposted 9 years ago

    A new experience this morning
    
    I'm on a hub http://makingamark.hubpages.com/hub/women-artists which says "show up to one correction"
    
    I click the button and then I get a pop-up message above the top of the page saying
    
    "The page at makingamark.hubpages.com says No corrections found"
    
    Huh? What does this mean? 
    
    Is it a glitch?  Have I already reviewed this hub and sorted out the suggested Editbot?
    
    This is sooooooooo timewasting!

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       ronbergeronposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       I see the same thing on one of my Hubs.

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    makingamarkposted 9 years ago

    Another new experience this morning - suggesting maybe this EditBot or some other form of 'editing' has actually been run and made 'corrections' without us knowing
    
    I've just come across a piece of text in one of my hubs which suggests "emigrated" as a correction for the phrase "immigrated to..."
    
    I KNOW the suggested correction is the correct use. What I'm greatly perplexed by is the notion that language has been included in one of my hubs which I would NEVER have written.
    
    So how much else of our writing has been changed by people who don't know how to write using the English language?

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       Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       But those mean opposite things!   If you're emigrating, you are leaving your own country.  If you're immigrating, you're arriving in your new country.  Migrating is the neutral verb.

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          makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Sorry I should have made it plain - the context was "leaving"

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    Best Psychicposted 9 years ago

    I don't understand why you would want to taint the spontaneity and authenticity of reader comments with spelling corrections? It is absurd.

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       snakeslaneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       My thoughts exactly.

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    watergeekposted 9 years ago

    I had a number of hubs EditBotted, each with only one edit, nearly all in the comments. So far I've agreed with all of the changes. Those that could go one way or the other, I don't really care about, e.g. ground water vs groundwater.

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    DzyMsLizzyposted 9 years ago

    I had  a single "hit" on Friday the 18th; a great many more on Saturday, and several others on Sunday.
    
    I quite literally spent all day long on Saturday, and most of the day Sunday making at least minor edits to each and every hub that had been 'edit-botted.'
    
    Most of the auto-corrections were in the comments; a few were for typos.  However, it was necessary to perform an edit of some kind in order to force a 'date changed' status, in order to keep track of which ones I'd already looked at and fixed/changed, and which ones were still in the queue.
    
    I finished late Monday evening, and lo and behold, this morning, there were 4 more 'hits.'  So far, I have made edits to 65 of my 315 published hubs.  That means there is the potential for all the remaining 250 published hubs to be hit. 
    However, about 90 of those remaining are poems, which I refuse to change at all...so the final tally of potential changes I'll have to make still stands at a little over 150!!
    
    This is getting annoying and frustrating in a big hurry.  I really feel sorry for those who have 1K+ hubs!

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       janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Yep I have done the same thing, often inserting edits that are not Editbot sensitive. Huge waste of time - so far 500 or so for me!

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          DzyMsLizzyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          500!  Ugh!! 
          I did see a traffic spike on Sunday, with a couple more cents earned, but it quickly reversed itself back to "normal," by Monday. 

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             janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

             I sent an email to HP requesting that the Editbot bandaids for hubs that I edited to remove the 'flesh wounds', be eliminated as no corrections remain. This was the reply I received.
             
             "The system was not designed to remove the indicator that a Hub was changed by the EditBot and there is currently no mechanism to manually remove them and they are not rechecked on any sort of interval at this time."

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                snakeslaneposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                "The system was not designed to remove the indicator that a Hub was changed by the EditBot and there is currently no mechanism to manually remove them and they are not rechecked on any sort of interval at this time."
                
                uh oh

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                   DzyMsLizzyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                   Marina says they may be working on that.  Refer to this forum post:
                   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/133104#post2765699

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                      Margaret Schindelposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                      +1

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                      janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                      Fascinating that the fix for acceptance or edits was not built into the tool when first implemented.

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                         Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                         Well ... ain't that special?  Fascinating indeed - but that is the way of HP to slap it out there on us without thinking it through first.

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       CatherineGiordanoposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       It did not occur to me that the editbot would attack hubs that it had previously left unchanged. I alphabetized the hubs so I could keep tack of which I had reviewed. When I got to "Zombies" I assumed I was done.I thought that after this I would only have to review new hubs and updated hubs. If the editbot is making additional passes and flagging hubs that were previously unflagged, that creates a real problem The is no way to know which ones were already.reviewed and which were not.
       
       Every time HP makes a change we have unintended consequences which bring grief to the writers. How many times have I suggested to HP that they do a pretest so they can (1) find glitches and (2) get feedback from hubbers.  Apparently, this simple very common business practice is never followed and the writers have to suffer the consequences.

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          Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I'm not sure whether Editbot will re-check an existing Hub or not.  Have you seen something that suggests it will?
          
          I assume new symbols are appearing on Hubs because the Editbot is still working its way through the site so it hasn't visited every single Hub yet.

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    paradigm searchposted 9 years ago

    Bot icons are disappearing on my stats page. Yes they are.

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       janderson99posted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Nope, not for me they're not. They keep coming!

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          paradigm searchposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          It is true. Give it time.
          
          [Edit] And yep, I've also got a couple new icons added as well.
          
          [Edit] The ones that have disappeared are all ones I'd fixed. As to whether that's the requirement to get them removed, I don't know.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       What did you do when you checked the Editbot edits?  I opened several of my Hubs and checked the edits yesterday, but the bot symbol hasn't disappeared.

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          PegCole17posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I would like to know how you corrected the errors, too. So far, I'm finding a lot of corrections in the comments sections and have tried deleting the comments but the bot symbol is still there.

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    Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years ago

    Editbot made the following correction: Beautiful words here from you to hear from you, Phyllis;
    
    This is in comments and I cannot change it, but would not change it anyway, for Editbot is WRONG.

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    Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years ago

    Editbot changed an artist's name, James Wehn, to James When. Editbot is not very intelligent.

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    Rochelle Frankposted 9 years ago

    I hope we are still a bit more intelligent than robots-- someday that may change.
    Overall, I think the bot edits are good on the little details. A word or phrase repeated inadvertently, a missing apostrophe or period, a double typed letter, a common misspelling,-- all of these things are cleaned up.
    Yes, there are some exceptions that we need to revise, but going forward I think it is positive.

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    William F. Torpeyposted 9 years ago

    There's apparently some kind of glitch in editbot because after I changed "weight lifting" to "weightlifting" my hub shows the change but editbot fails to see that the correction was made on the hub!

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    Rochelle Frankposted 9 years ago

    You are in good company. One of the complaints is that the bot doesn't go away.  I'd say let it be -- wait and see--

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    Phyllis Doyleposted 9 years ago

    In one of my hubs there are two phrases: chicken pen and pig pen. Now, editbot corrected pig pen to pigpen. If that is correct, why did it not correct chicken pen to chickenpen?
    
    BTW - pig pen is an acceptable phrase.

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    Paul Edmondsonposted 9 years ago

    Thanks for the comments. As many active Hubbers know, there is lots we can do to improve the site's quality. Marina has pulled many suggestions together to review. We hope to add the essential features.
    
    I hope folks can look at the entire site and see how correcting nearly 400,000 basic mistakes with a small number of errors has potential to benefit the entire site.
    
    Google is a funny beast. A ratio out of whack can mean havoc for a site. We are doing our best to fix our outliers. Grammar and spelling is something we need to improve site wide. The efforts we are undertaking together is to help Hubbers achieve their full potential.  Thanks again for the suggestions.

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       makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       I've already achieved my full potential in terms of writing English!
       
       Why not correct the hubs that have more than (say) 3 typos and leave the rest alone?
       
       Google really could care less if there is the odd mistake - you need to focus on the people who really cannot write English properly and leave the rest of us alone!
       
       On a fair few of mine your not very intelligent EditBot is making a complete nonsense of proper names and words relating to a foreign language - i.e. you are making the situation WORSE - which is why you need to differentiate between people who know what they're doing and the rest.
       
       Most importantly you need to introduce a device pronto to acknowledge that a hub has been been reviewed and remove the icon from the dashboard for those hubs which have been reviewed.

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    VirginiaLynneposted 9 years ago

    As a writing teacher, I'm very happy to have errors corrected and I thank you, Paul, for helping us see this from a site-wide perspective .  I have actually not been writing new Hubs for a while because I'm trying to pull the quality of all my Hubs up to as high a level as possible.  I also unpublished low performing Hubs.  I've definitely seen an uptick of about 20-30 in traffic since I started doing this back in May.  So I think that the edit bot is a great idea.

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    PegCole17posted 9 years ago

    I'm a bit surprised that the "editbot" (underlined in red) reviewed even my unpublished hubs and left its mark on them. These are hubs that were at one time published and featured but have been unpublished so I can revise or remove them.
    
    What I'm finding most frustrating is the inability to determine which hubs that I have already reviewed versus the ones which still need me to take a look. Also, it seems odd that it would be of value to correct errors in comments that have been on the record for as long as six years, from way back when the site was doing much better in terms of traffic.

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    paradigm searchposted 9 years ago

    Happy Wednesday!
    
    I can't believe I typed "screw driver" instead of "screwdriver". Editbot gets a kewpie doll for fixing that one.
    
    Meanwhile, the disappeared icons on the hubs I fixed continue to remain disappeared.
    
    Muddling along for another day...

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    Don Bobbittposted 9 years ago

    OK, I saw the "bot's" handiwork on some of my hubs. Ces't la Vie!
    I accept that my fingers are occasionally running faster than my brain and I do have some (not many, but some) spelling and grammar errors. And, if it makes HP happy to find them for me, in an effort to make Google happy (this month, LOL!), then who am I to complain.
    The whole lack of access to ancient comment errors, seems a little stupid to me, but again, Ces't la Vie!
    I'll just sit here, work on my writings and wait for then next "improvement". I mean, what choice do I have? LOL!
    DON

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       justholidaysposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Hi Don,
       
       EditBot in action: Ces't la Vie! / C'est la vie!
       
       

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          DzyMsLizzyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Edit bot knows French?

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             justholidaysposted 9 years agoin reply to this

             It should!
             
             
             
             "ETA: Early morning, brain not ready to find an alternate three words in English to illustrate the EB correction.*

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    Kristen Howeposted 9 years ago

    Same here. I've only changed two edits from the Editbot lately. The rest were okay.  I wish my bots would disappear from my profile page.

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    paradigm searchposted 9 years ago

    Sorry about my now-deleted previous post, HP. I was just trying to lighten things up.
    
    To whom it may concern... Do not refer to Editbot as Pacman.

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       HollieTposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       Indeed I do. Remember him/it? Little green (sometimes white) strange little creatures eating everything in sight.
       
       Obviously we were easily entertained back in the day. Compare and contrast, PDS. Pacman vs (insert as appropriate) I know aa will say Minecraft!

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       makingamarkposted 9 years agoin reply to this

       It's been niggling me - I knew it reminded me of something - now I've got it!

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