Golden Toad Says His Raiderfan...

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   fierycjposted 16 years ago

   And to cap it off, he says he quitting cos of the censorship and hypocrisy on Hubpages. What happens to all his fans...I wanna hear y'all speak of this.

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      Eric Graudinsposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      His fans would become homeless and disconnected and just float around like lost souls until they become attached to some other person.
      
      Could be a good chance for you to get a big net and scoop some of them up.
      
      (A little tadpole told me that GoldenToad is secretly eloping with Frog Dropping. Remember - you heard it here first! )

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         BILL MAHERposted 16 years agoin reply to this

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            Jodi Hoekselposted 16 years agoin reply to this

            Wooooo HOOOOO! Bill Maher is here!!! I so love it! You are brilliant!

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   thranaxposted 16 years ago

   lol wut?
   
   ~thranax~

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      darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      What he ^ said.

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   Don't see any problem with him being a Raiderfan. As for him leaving - I definitely will miss his wit, but to be totally frank I am already missing it for some time...

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      getpaidtopostposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      True, golden toad was my first friend on hubpages, he was around for the first week of me being here then he disappeared. I Will miss the scruffy get, and mainly his wit and banter. very funny intelligent man and I will miss him.
      
      

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   k@riposted 16 years ago

   I do not understand all of this conversation, but I have already begged GT not to quit.  I love his writing, and if he is raiderfan, that explains a lot!  Whether he is or not, golden is one of the most powerful writers I have encountered.  I feel he does not really know how wonderful he is.  All I can say is, if he is leaving, will he leave us a link to follow him? 
   
   Please, golden?  LOL!  You know I will go into withdrawal!

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   Maddie Ruudposted 16 years ago

   I don't think quitting entirely is really necessary, but of course it's a personal choice.  I understand people sometimes label HubPages rules as censorship, but that's really not their intended goal.  The rules are in place to protect the community and AdSense earnings--both ours and yours.

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   Tom Cornettposted 16 years ago

   One can cast a hubber into eternal damnation but one can't talk about "blue balls".......Only in America!  I will miss Toad.  I will miss raiderfan.

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   Dame Scribeposted 16 years ago

   GT is leaving?! no, no, no, GT , you cannot go ...jus use a whole different set of words or language to get a point out and about ...the new language we can call ...Hubbish? lol

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   Leta Sposted 16 years ago

   Why GT, why? 
   
   I figure, sigh, there is some hypocrisy, censorship...or lack there of...and weird stuff in Hubpages, yep.  But--it is like that in most organizations of people.  You can find ways to work around/within stuff, you know. 

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   G-Ma Johnsonposted 16 years ago

   Well GT you do whatever you must...you know we all love you and will miss the heck out of you..) Hugs

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    AEvansposted 16 years ago

    GT: You are my buddy and my friend I undesrstand and if it is your choice then you are going to have to do what you have to do. I wonder http://hubpages.com/_dwn4bbs4rxf1/hub/blueballs if this hub is o.k. because in some instances it appears to be medically linked. But the subject is **Blueballs**
    I did not get the honors of reading your article so I cannot comment but the hub that I found is interesting.

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       Maddie Ruudposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       The same subject, approached differently, might not have been moderated.  The hub you link to above does not contain graphic sexual descriptions.  The hub that was moderated contained lewd descriptions of sexual acts.

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          AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          I see.

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          Paper Moonposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          Many of the greatest works of literature have been banned.  Whereas raider fan was not the most literary of his writing, it was in reaction to serious double standards. (just look at some of the offensive pictures and titles of some of the trash that make up your numbers) However, with GT, you have gotten closer to true literature then you probably will again. 
          So with all due respect, the internet should be a free place to exchange ideas, even more so in the US of A. 
          However if you do not want to look at it that way, think in terms of your numbers.  You like that don't you?  How many of the people here joined because of GT?  How many stay because of GT?  In the ripple effect, how will your numbers play out? 
          Where will you draw the line?

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             blondepoetposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             Well said PM, truly well said.

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    goldentoadposted 16 years ago

    I'm sorry. I only know one way to write. I won't change and will look for a place that will accept me.

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       tksenseiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Don't let the door hit ya...

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          Laughing Momposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          We'd actually prefer if you were the one to go.  And go ahead and let that door smack you in the ass.

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             tksenseiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             Yeah, well what can ya do?

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                Laughing Momposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                Sad that you are our future.

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                   tksenseiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                   Tragic really

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                AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                tkensei: GT is a very good friend of mine and he is really a great guy, that comment I honestly took offense too.

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                   tksenseiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                   I'm sorry you feel that way, but he's a big boy and if he decides to leave then that's that. There is nothing stopping you from keeping in touch, is there?

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                   k@riposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                   tkensei, I have no idea who you are, but I also took great offense to this comment!  Like my mother always said...if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all...it makes you look like a fool!

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                      tksenseiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                      The line for taking offense forms to the left. Please take a number and wait your turn. Thank you.

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                         k@riposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                         Oh, I am in line, and sorry I forgot my number...what was it again?

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                            tksenseiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                            I think you had pi.

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                         k@riposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                         This line does not seem to be moving, and I think I see people cutting in front of me.

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                            k@riposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                            tsenkie,  where did you go...scared of a little girl?

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                               tksenseiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                               Of course!

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                                  k@riposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                                  Most bullies can be :p

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          Paper Moonposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          Go get back on your meds jack.

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       HealthCare Basicsposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Hey, you posted a real pic of yourself!!!! Good luck to you and the very best. There are so many venues that you can explore on the internet for what you want to publish.....

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       Marisa Wrightposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       I'm sorry to hear you're going Goldentoad.  Bear in mind that you're going to have the same problem on any site that uses Adsense - because it's Google that sets the rules, not HubPages. 
       
       HubPages simply can't afford to risk allowing any Hubs that contravene the Adsense terms of service, or we could all lose our income. While I'm sorry it has affected you as an individual, I'm sure there are few Hubbers - even your fans - who would genuinely be willing to forfeit all their Adsense earnings, now and in the future, in order to allow you to follow your principles.
       
       I wish you good luck in finding a site that can accommodate your articles.

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       alekhouseposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       GT, I understand where you're coming from. But, really, you might have the same problem on other Internet sites. Unless, of course, you want to just go porno.
       
       I also hate to see you go. Maybe a little compromise in this instance might be a good thing. Compromise for the sake of your writing. You get a lot of feed back here, and that may just be a good thing for you as a writer.

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          Sufidreamerposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          Fair point Alekhouse but, if you compromise on your art, it is no longer art.
          
          Glad that I am an academic writer - no such problems

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          k@riposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          golden, do not ever compromise what you write!  You are real and vibrant...the world needs more of this!!!  You, without compromise, are very good for all of us!  With compromise, you would lose.  Love ya man!  I will always hope for a way for you to stay...but compromise is not that way. 
          
          Just know you have a lot of supporters here, a lot of people who love to read you...however that would be true no matter where you go.  You are the real deal!   

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       anjalichughposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       GT, quitting is not a solution. How can you do this to thousands of readers on HP who love you and the way you write. I understand that hypersensitive people, at times, find it comfortable to quit rather than staying put but that (trust me) doesn't help. Don't be so rigid. If you need to make some changes (about which I'm not aware) in your style of writing, it won't cause you any harm if you do so, as HP is definitely not a personal diary---it is a public forum so why not show some flexibility and keep enjoying the loving relationships you have earned here. :)Please don't go.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 16 years ago

    Well good luck, I really do hope you find a place where you can write what you want. Maybe your own blog not sponsored by AdSense?

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       raiderfanposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       And I'm taking all my friends with me. Hell Yeah!

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          AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          :

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          Pachuca213posted 16 years agoin reply to this

          I for one will be La Numero Una.... I agree that its sad to go back on a hub and see that it was taken down due to being flagged....I love GT's hubs and his alter ego Raiderfan too.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 16 years ago

    People come and people go and HubPages goes on...

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    KCC Big Countryposted 16 years ago

    GT's not going anywhere.  He's just frustrated.

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       goldentoadposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       I'm gone, tonight is it. Once I set my mind to do it. I do.

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          KCC Big Countryposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          That's the definition of stubborness.  You're bigger than that.

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             goldentoadposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             Like they are all pointing out, there are other places I can write.

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                KCC Big Countryposted 16 years agoin reply to this

                We all have the option to write other places.  But, you belong here and you know it, GT.

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    Janettaposted 16 years ago

    His fans will be his fans no matter what he chooses to do. He knows this. We love him and will still be fans no matter what he writes (or doesn't wirte) about.
    
    We back him and support him
    
    I am a fan for life

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       KCC Big Countryposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       I agree.

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    Tom Cornettposted 16 years ago

    Toad....you stuff is the most creative I have seen in years. I sat here and laughed through many and others that you wrote had a connection to the soul.  You are a great creative writer.
    A lot of my stuff is on the edge and may get axed when the right prude comes along to flag it.
    When creativity vs opinion....opinion should never rule...ever!

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    Leta Sposted 16 years ago

    It's up to him.  If he feels strongly about it and sees a reason, OK...  I do see some inconsistency in the policies--probably it is personal to him because it is effecting him.  But then again, it's a business and it is their choice to enact those policies.
    
    And we'll see ya anyway, GT, !

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       raiderfanposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       I wasn't actually ready to go but it looks like it is time. Let them have their dirty pics of Indian minors.

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    dineaneposted 16 years ago

    GT, if you're really leaving, I'm not even sure I know you elsewhere - I'm "dineane" everywhere. Friend me on FB or whatever. Especially if you are RaiderFan - thought I had found a way to get my husband hooked on hubpages!

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    Tom Cornettposted 16 years ago

    Toad....let us know where you're writing.

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    tony0724posted 16 years ago

    Toad this Is to sad to think of , you make this place fun!

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       AEvansposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Tony did you join?

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          Janettaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          yeah, cmon Tony. Everybody's doin it  lol

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             Laughing Momposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             Oh tony!!  your friends are calling!

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    Christenstockposted 16 years ago

    TTTOOOOAAADDD NOOO!!! I don't know anyone else here that's from the city of angels! Man...looks like my #1 Animal Style, with Animal Style fries, and Dr. P just turned into a cheesburger from McD's. I'll see you at Pinks. Take care brother!

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    Shalini Kagalposted 16 years ago

    GT - you can't do this to us - heck no - pretty please??

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    nazishnasimposted 16 years ago

    GT don't be a sissy *shakes RF hard*. Just don't give 'some people' the satisfaction.
    
    *grumbles obscenities for 'some people'*

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    Christoph Reillyposted 16 years ago

    Come on, GT.

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    CabinGirlposted 16 years ago

    I love that Toad and Raiderfan will be sorely missed, he had more creation in his writing than most and you never left without a smile. Don't totally go Toad, just kill one of them off, works for me

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       blondepoetposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       It only seems like yesterday CB we tied him up. Damn, I knew our knots were all wrong.

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          k@riposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          Maybe the day before yesterday...poor GT, yelling "please someone untie me"  and no-one answered!

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             blondepoetposted 16 years agoin reply to this

             Lol I heard him crying out but I was busy painting my toe-nails.

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    Mighty Momposted 16 years ago

    GT and RF, You have been two of my most favoritist hubbers. Your writing and comments add a dimension to this community that is frankly, unparalleled. Maybe take a "time out" and see how you feel. Hope to see both of you return in some incarnation. You will be very much missed here.
    *wraps matronly MM arms around GT and RF*

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    fortunerepposted 16 years ago

    What happened, he?

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       blondepoetposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Me and Cabin-girl tied him up, but he released a unsavoury gas and we took off.

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    Lady Guinevereposted 16 years ago

    GT, if you can find a way to blog from or with or a fourm like the Talk Sex With Sue, you might have a chance to do your blogs or articles that way.  That was the only thing that I could come up with.  IOne other thing for others and Maddie to consider---beauty is the in the eye of the beholder.  Sex is taboo and why --because religion has put it there.  Just my two cents and I am out of here!  Good luck where ever you go GT and I did appreciate the back up you gave me earler when I first joined HP.  I will miss you here.

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    Lifebydesignposted 16 years ago

    Hey GT, sorry to hear you're leaving! You're one of the best things about hubpages.

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    Amy Gposted 16 years ago

    I leave town for awhile, I come back, I log on, and *POOF*, my favorite is gone.   
    I wish we could get him to stay... maybe he can be bribed...

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    RNMSNposted 16 years ago

    tkensei you are either very young or just a total jerk...I vote for the door to your bum!
    LM, right next to you Girl!!

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       tksenseiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       LOL! Some folks just looooove the guessing game!

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    Mishaposted 16 years ago

    LOL Lita, is it your puppet?

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       Leta Sposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Almost didn't look at this, but thought GT was back...
       
       Uh, no... (Don't you look at the way they express themselves?) That 'puppet' is a guy.
       
       And TK is middle aged.  I already know that.
       
       He's making new friends again, huh?

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          tksenseiposted 16 years agoin reply to this

          Not everyone has your charm and self control, ma'am.

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    Mishaposted 16 years ago

    Yeah, on a second thought looks original. Yet vocabulary is quite close

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       Leta Sposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       No, no.  I'm fond of acronyms...one in particular.

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    fortunerepposted 16 years ago

    I will miss you GT, glad you are taking your friends with you.  Hope you enjoy being able to write as you wish, I for one am kinda disappointed.
    dori

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