Anti-Hub Challenge drivel
Very well said, thank you
- wordscribe41posted 14 years ago
0 I found it on photobucket
Maybe do a Google search on what you want? 
I love reading all the new Hubs or least as many as I can
. I don't see anything wrong with challenging one's own abilities and have great admiration for all our challengers. keep up the great work I say.- pgrundyposted 14 years ago0
Hi Julie Ann. I know what you mean. I don't have a thing against the Hub Challenges. I do what I can, and all along I've just done my own thing here. That's what I like about HP most--they let me do my own thing and most of the people here are pretty nice. Join the Hub Challenge, don't join it, it's all cool.
I don't know why people get so whipped up about this stuff.
I personally am having fun here. ditto !!!!
Hi Julie-Ann
Hope that you feel a little better!
I can understand how you feel put-out - your name does not belong in the same sentence as 'low quality.'
I pretty much agree with Marisa about the whole thing. The first challenge did have some adverse effects, and put a lot of noses out of joint. It fostered an 'us and them' mentality and made many writers feel under-appreciated.
The strength of Hubpages is that it is one of the few writing sites to use such a blend of talent - people visit an informative article, get what they need and hopefully make HP and the writer some money. In other cases, they read Hubs by Paraglider or Pam and bookmark them, making the site much more 'sticky.' The original challenge tipped the scales, IMO.
This new challenge, however, I like - it is giving people a good challenge, and also teaching less-experienced writers a few tricks about how to write good SEO Hubs and hit Adsense. All good stuff
Ultimately, the onus is now on the community to develop some challenges for the other writers - Lita's poetry challenge is the last one I remember.
I don't really care if I get jumped on - I just found your post since I don't really haunt the forums like other sometimes do...
It was typical that a simple concept - Write all you want, where and how you want - but make it quality and when you find spam or anti-hubs - take some responsibility and flag it for review, and, by the way - here's a little pic to show that you are a responsible writer - turned into a flow of comments that attempted to twist and distort that original message up to and including personal attacks.
I won't go into all that was said in comments and some forum posts that I ran across- but I did write a companion to the Anti Hub Challenge called Hubs vs Anti Hubs - a Tutorial on Social Dynamics. I found it rather interesting that while issues may change - the human reaction to anything different, unknown or promoting any type of change doesn't.
So write all you want for your own reasons - just write it well.
Julie Ann, well said and straight to the point. The challenge is helping me tremendously and i'm really glad im taking part in the 30-30.
Who cares about the anti-hubchallenge group? Well i don't, and in fact they spur me on to make something of this.
You and the team? WELL DONE.As everyone else has said, well said. We are here to have fun anyways
I bet now it feels good getting it off of your chest.I must admit, I find you a little indimidating Julie Ann. But, thank you so much for your words of encouragement and for standing up for all of us you may not have had the courage to do so.
I still consider myself a newbie and I entered into this challenge with a lot of excitement and with very high hopes of increasing my traffic and my earnings. However, after reading all this stuff about the anti-hub challenge I started to question if I was doing the right thing.
Your encouragement is greatly appreciated and I have noticed a big increase in my traffic since starting this challenge -- now I'm just waiting for the money to follow
So, to all those nay sayers out there....I stand behind this challenge 100% and if you don't like it, go somewhere else!!I did two hubs just the other day and didn't work up too much of a sweat. At that rate, one can do 60 hubs a month (62 on the odd months and 56 in February ... unless it's a leap year).
So, what in the heck is Yoshi trying to say?
30 hubs in a month is not a stretch and should not be considered a spamfest. If someone can write 1000 quality hubs in a month then I have no problem with them.
What I have a problem with is the person who writes 5 spammy hubs in a month because someone told them to write a hub just full of keywords and they would make a lot of adsense (didn't happen here - happened elsewhere).
I'm all for people making money from their writings. As a person who writes and sells short stories from time to time, I can tell you how great it feels to get paid for your hard work and how dismal it feels when you write something you thought was great, only to find it's already been overdone and nobody wants it. As such, I'm all for writers profiting from their hard work.
Let's face it ... professional writing isn't a not-for-profit business. And to all of those who write 'just for the fun of it' and do it well, I say this to you *You deserve to be paid too!* as much of your writing is of the same quality that sells in other places.
I'll never be anti-hubchallenge, as I believe writers need to be challenged to keep producing. If my time constraints would allow it, I'd participate in the hubchallenge as well, but I don't rue those who have the time to do so ... I applaud them, as I know how much work it is to research and write out so many articles in a month's time.
And what about daily columnists? Should we be against them too? After all, they produce an article a day. In essence, they're doing 30 hubs a day and forming a bond with their readers. And for them ... the hubchallenge never ends ... as they do it all year round for a living.
So, let's stop hating on the hubbers who are looking to challenge themselves and focus on watching out for hubbers that are trying to challenge the site with pornographic hubs, gambling hubs, and hubs written to just gain clicks, with no meaningful content written. Those are the fish we want out of the ocean, and from what I can see, someone is obviously doing a pretty darned good job of scooping them out and throwing them out on the beach.
Writing is kinda like Karaoke. It takes a lot of guts to get on stage and share your talent, regardless of whether your a pro, an amateur, or just someone who wants to share a song. Those singers form a bond together as they share a kindred spirit for music, just like we should be sharing our kindred spirit for writing.
The whole thought that one writer can be upset with another for writing more ... well ... it just makes me mad, as we're supposed to be enjoying this process together. I like the hubber that writes one quality article a month just as much as the one that writes forty, so why can't the rest of us think the same way?
We're writers, not twelve year olds suffering over envy, and when I see posts that say the hubchallenge is bad I go back to those days of old when we were still kids, envying the accomplishments of others, rather than applauding them and making accomplishments of our own.
We're writers ... we write ... that's what we do. And if I'm wrong, then maybe we shouldn't set our anti-views so low. After all, what about those who post more on the forums than others? Should we be against them? What about those who earn more adsense than others? Hate them too? What about those who have higher hub scores? Hate them? And what about those who only post between midnight and six o' clock in the morning?
There's no need for division. We're writers, and writer's stick together. So, should we dig up the horse and bury it again, or should we all get out there and write?
Better yet ... a hubchallenge we can all sink our teeth into.
This weekend, write the best hub you are capable of. Write and rewrite until you feel you have wrote a masterpiece ... then look at it again after you post it. Remember that feeling as you look at all the hard work you put into it, as that's the rewarding feeling one gets for being a writer, and the feeling only gets better with time as you write more gems.
And as you finish reading it, accept something ... you're a writer (whether by fun or profession) and it's more important to spend your time producing great works of your own than it is to quibble over the efforts of others.
We share our hopes, our desires, our knowledge, and our ideas. That's what writing is about ... not quibbling over the productivity of others.
So, watcha waiting for? Get writing.Thanks KC.
The name of the person who started the anti-hubchallenge isn't important, as I believe they were concerned an ongoing challenge would divide the people on this site.
What's important is that we cement together as a community and lay that person's fears to rest. In my opinion, we shouldn't seek out to lynch them, we should be thankful they took the time to remind us how important the community is on Hubpages.
And so, I say, let's pull together and show what we're all capable of as writers, eh? 'cause if we work together, then division has no chance to form.Thank you Julie - I suspected as you did - that alot of what has been said had nothing to do with my hub - although some of the comments on this thread do refer to it directly- those were the comments that I addressed. In no way was my hub any attempt to demotivate or intimidate anyone - so thank you for recognizing that.
Hope you feel better Julie
- PJ_Deneenposted 14 years ago0
Well said dear, bravo!
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