Thousands of Articles Copied...Help.

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   wordscribe41posted 15 years ago

   You guys also need to check here, I just found this HP article by Trimar7 there (http://hubpages.com/hub/Laser-Back-Trea … -Bad-Backs) on it, too.  Sure there are lots more. 
   
   http://www.sunday136.cn/
   
   Good times, huh?
   
   I have articles that were plagiarized there, too.  Can't find any on Docstop yet.

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      wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Just found this one there by kerryg:  http://hubpages.com/hub/Omega-3-Fatty-A … ual-Health
      Kerryg, so far I've found 6 of yours there.

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   sannyasinmanposted 15 years ago

   They even have some of mine. What is a DMCA and how do I file one?

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      sannyasinmanposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks sunforged for the link:
      
      Heres the complaint link
      
      http://www.docstoc.com/User/cmsstatic.aspx?page_id=100
      
      I have just filed a DMCA. Now lets see what happens.

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   thranaxposted 15 years ago

   Wordscribe, don't need to say it, if you look back I have specific examples from hubbers. I also found ones for Hubbers who couldn't. We know there are hundreds and thousands of hubbers hubs there. Thats why they must be banned, we can't combat every single article.
   
   ~thranax~

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      wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I've found a different site, though, right?

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         thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Yup, and there are tons of sites each Hub might be on. Others on none. The one I found has tons of them, thats why it needs to be killed quickly. If you search all your Hubs you are likely to find one or two on other sites. It happens to everyone at some point most likely.
         
         ~thranax~

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      Lily Roseposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I've only searched google for maybe a dozen of mine so far and have not found any to be copied ... I guess that's good...unless I'm wrong!

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         lrohnerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Check back in a week -- if it hasn't been resolved by then. Most of their stolen content was uploaded over the past few days so may not be indexed yet.

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            Lily Roseposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Good point.  I'll keep checking.  So I shouldn't worry about my older hubs?  Well, hopefully this will all be resolved soon.
            
            But what's to stop this person from just creating new accounts under different aliases with that site or others and even with google??

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               thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Google requires a social security number in US and other kind of citizenship number for other countries. With a real name etc. If it doesn't have these, it won't pay out, leaving that guy with nothing to do unless he can keep getting legit adsense accounts.
               
               ~thranax~

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               Eric Graudinsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               There's lots of things a site like that can do.
               
               Like preventing the posting of more  than one article  an hour to an account.
               
               And preventing multiple accounts form the same  IP address.
               Sure, there are ways around this, but it would slow things down to the extent that it would not be worthwhile for an article spammer for do it.
               
               cheers,
               Eric G.

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   Maddie Ruudposted 15 years ago

   Quick update:
   
   I have contacted DocStoc to resolve the situation, but of course it is also their weekend, so I cannot guarantee when I'll get a response.  In the meantime, you can file DMCA complaints for any affected material, as I know many of you already have.
   
   Rest assured we are working to sort this out as soon as possible.

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      thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Maddie, and I am sorry I posted so many Links in this thread, but it seemed this is so important that the rule would need to be bent for it.
      
      ~thranax~

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      wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It's not just docstop though, Maddie.  This one also has tons of them.  Could be the same person, don't see any way to contact anyone.  http://www.sunday136.cn/

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         Maddie Ruudposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         That looks unrelated, especially as all entries are isolated to May 2009.

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         ryankettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         That one isn't even ad supported? Maybe it has been rumbled already?

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            wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I noticed that, I have no friggin idea, but I'm pissed.

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               waynetposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               It's got google ads in the source code but they aren't showing up, so yep not supported...anyway I'm off to bed....too much excitement has fried my head!!!

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      waynetposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Jolly good I can definitley go to sleep now ......Maddies on the case!!!

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      thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Here is one of your Hubs there Maddie, I beleve:
      
      http://www.docstoc.com/docs/12864146/Fr … p-Recipes1
      
      ~thranax~

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      yoshi97posted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You're my hero Maddie! If I could fit roses into my USB port, I'd be sending them to ya.

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      thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

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      gamergirlposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Just bringing this back to the forefront for you guys.

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         Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         And again...

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         gamergirlposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Here's the word from Maddie so far, remember guys it's only 9am at Hubpages HQ, on a Monday even, so give the awesome folks in the office there a chance to wipe the sleep from their eyes before getting too mad.

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            readytoescapeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Get them some coffee and turn the dogs loose! lol

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            emievilposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Know it's not usual but just a thought - could they have like a week-end staff or something to handle week-end problems? Seems to be that some of the problems being brought up in the past are brought out during the week-ends and we all just have to wait until Monday before these problems are seen, much less addressed. That's just a question, a request even for Hubpages admin to consider. Anyways, I'm off. Will dig this up tomorrow. Keep your cool guys and gals! Have faith in our Hubpages team. Go HP team!

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   Scott.Lifeposted 15 years ago

   Thank you Maddie, think I will wait a few days to see how this gets resolved, Thank you Thranax for the heads up.

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   thranaxposted 15 years ago

   I guess I found the largest Hub stealing outlet in Hubpages History? We didn't even know it, that's what gets me.
   
   ~thranax~

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   mistyhorizon2003posted 15 years ago

   I barely dare look for any of my hubs as the idea of finding any of mine on there makes me feel physically sick. Even if he/she doesn't get adsense approval on their copied articles, people will still read them and therefore not read ours, so we still miss out on any potential revenue we may otherwise have received.

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   Army Infantry Momposted 15 years ago

   Wow,..I did a search on my hubs,..They have been reprinted on many differnet sites,..This is unbelievable,..some sites I wouldn't even want my name associated to it. Uggg,...This is not kewl,..

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      thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, there will always be copiers for everything, but not to the scale as this site. These are rare and should be treated with more emphasis. The ones you found if they have ads file reports, if they are a membership site contact/DMCA them.
      
      ~thranax~

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   Jane@CMposted 15 years ago

   Just a thought, but I know there are many here who write for other sites, might want to check them for plagiarism also.

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    thranaxposted 15 years ago

    This is my current whole list of infringes:
    
    Total List of Shifts:
    
    ShiftN
    Docs: 17984
    Views: 7878
    
    ShiftM
    Docs: 19756
    Views: 30136
    
    ShiftL
    Docs: 20023
    Views: 2827
    
    ShiftK
    Docs: 22329
    Views: 37156
    
    ShiftJ
    Docs: 19083
    Views: 1452
    
    ShiftI
    Docs: 19914
    Views: 1745
    
    ShiftH
    Docs: 24764
    Views: 2491
    
    ShiftG
    Docs: 9982
    Views: 1805
    
    ShiftF
    Docs: 28647
    Views: 4619
    
    ShiftE
    Docs: 18053
    Views: 3182
    
    ShiftD
    Docs: 19903
    Views: 3608
    
    ShiftC
    Docs: 19844
    Views: 6265
    
    ShiftB
    Docs: 18236
    Views: 8752
    
    ShiftA
    Docs: 19815
    Views: 8087
    
    Shift3
    Docs: 21427
    Views: 27059
    
    Shift4
    Docs: 28421
    Views: 26548
    
    Shift5
    Docs: 19458
    Views: 11733
    
    Q16899:
    Docs: 45201
    Views: 58195
    
    ~thranax~

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    pgrundyposted 15 years ago

    I mean, if I'm just supplying free content to thieves when I write for sites like HP, I need to take that into account in deciding how to use my energy. I love writing here, but what I mean is, I think it's not the smartest use of my energy as a writer, that's all.
    
    If I'm just writing for other people I might as well WRITE for other people and get paid for it appropriately. Get my creative ya-yas out in fiction and so forth.

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    mistyhorizon2003posted 15 years ago

    Just checked about 12 of my own articles, but none came up on Google, (other than my own hubpage links), although I haven't checked the offending site itself yet.

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       AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I signed up on that site so that I could make comment under the review that my work was plagarized. I am ill but so are hundreds of us on HP I am certain that it will get resolved and I cannot get myself so uptight because I am already peeved!

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    KCC Big Countryposted 15 years ago

    Thanks Maddie! Ryan Hupfer is aware of it too.

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    yoshi97posted 15 years ago

    Must be the work of an idle my mind ... I say we get this person's email addy and sign him up on every gay porn site. (don't take me serious on this one - we don't want anyone getting into trouble)

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       AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Good idea!! lolololo

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          earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          He is probably already signed on the porn!

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             AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Second thought you are absolutely correct! lolololo oh well it will get resolved.

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                earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                We have both been here a while AEvans, and know that we have a great team at hubpages. They will do all they can as soon as they can I reckon.

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                   AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                   I agree it is the newbies that panic and the seasoned that just do what has to be done, report it to DMCA and let HP do the rest that is why I love it here and I am glad that you and I are on the same page. I will e-mail you about our new car OMG it is fabulous!! I wonder if they put some type of a leather scent in those cars that make you love them so much.

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                      earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                      Nah!
                      
                      They just use the best leather available!

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       ryankettposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       He may enjoy that too much.

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    wordscribe41posted 15 years ago

    I did find some of mine on the docstop site.  Was darn near feelin' a little left out.    Anyway, thanks Maddie for the fast response.

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    Christa Dovelposted 15 years ago

    Thanks for the heads up... found one of mine so far.  Also found that the article has been copied onto another site... they don't use google ads, but can they still be reported?

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    Blake Flanneryposted 15 years ago

    I found several of mine.  Thanks for letting me know.

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       thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Np, I look out for the community as much as i can
       
       ~thranax~

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    KCC Big Countryposted 15 years ago

    Thanks Thranax for discovering it and bringing it to our attention.

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       thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Np *blushes at everyone thanking me*
       
       
       ~thranax~

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    Beth100posted 15 years ago

    Thranax -- Thanks for bringing this to light (and blush some more!!)
    
    I tried what you suggested, but one of my hubs is completely (including the photo) has been copied word for word onto another site: 
    
    http://buyu369.cn/?p=325
    
    I haven't encountered being plaigerized before.  What do I do???  Can you tell me how and what I should do?
    
    Again, thanks for the heads up!!!
    
    Beth

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       thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       They don't have adsense so you can't report it there. If they are on blogger for free I would contact blogger with the Url and hopefully they can remove it. Yes, sometimes nothing much can be done about things.
       
       ~thranax~

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          Beth100posted 15 years agoin reply to this

          I'm just sooo confused!  I can't even find the home page for the site!  The only option I can find is for what the document was written in. 
          
          Also, there are quite a few other hubbers' articles under this writer's account.  I noticed them only because I have read them, unique photos and even in one it states "hubpages" in the writing. 
          
          Ugh!  Sooooo lost as what to do now.... :[

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             thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             The problem is thats a blogger account with its own URL. Thats all. Without adsense to cry to, there is nothing to ban. Even if they were banned from adsense- they don't need to remove the content. The only way to remove the content is from blogger.com saying someone at that URL had your copied content at yoururl.
             
             ~thranax~

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                Beth100posted 15 years agoin reply to this

                *light bulb turning on*
                
                Thank you!!  Okay, I've got it nailed now!  Thanks! 

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       Marisa Wrightposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       File an infringement notice with the site, and with Adsense if they show Adsense ads.  The links have already been given on the thread.

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    marcofratelliposted 15 years ago

    Thanks for getting onto this for us, Maddie. You're a gem.

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    yoshi97posted 15 years ago

    I reported this through the DMCA as well. Mess with ole Yoshi, will they?

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    yoshi97posted 15 years ago

    My deepest thanks to everyone who brought this issue to light and researched it so we could respond to this threat.
    
    This goes to show ... as a family we definitely look out for ouw own.

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       Beth100posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Yup, I totally agree!  This is more like it -- forget all the flame throwing!  This feels sooo much better!
       
       Thanks Yoshi!

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    flread45posted 15 years ago

    The hub team will take care of it,so quit worrying and write another HUB

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       Beth100posted 15 years agoin reply to this

       yeah, already stopped that.  If it isn't one site, it will be another! 
       
       *scribble, scribble*

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    Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

    oooo creepy and so wrong! I can't believe that ppl are stupid enough to copy other ppl's work and try to pass it off as their own. Speaks volumes of their LAZINESS!!!!!!!

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    Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

    Yep found one of mine on docstoc WORD FOR FREAKIN' WORD! LAZY ASS PEOPLE PISS ME THE F*CK OFF!

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    Lisa HWposted 15 years ago

    A lot of mine aren't something I'd imagine being stolen; but I have a couple of hundred and don't even know where to begin to try to check.  Is there a rhyme or reason to the types of Hubs that are likely to have been taken?

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    Beth100posted 15 years ago

    Yeah, that's how I felt when I found mine.  Felt like leaving a cheeky comment too!  Remember, we're better than they are -- we're writers, they're copy cats.  We're leaders, they're followers. 
    
    Breathe!

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    Lisa HWposted 15 years ago

    I just found one of mine, and it is one of my better-traffic ones.  The traffic has dropped dramatically recently.
    
    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/12853352/Ma … or-is-Made
    
    
    Here's a strange thing (maybe it isn't):
    
    I took the first two lines of a Hub on percentages and did a Google search.  Those exact two lines showed up on WikiAnswers:
    
    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_wo … f_a_number
    
    The strange thing is I chose to use the word "general" ; which, to me, may have been the one word which would set off my words from any of the common answers to the question about finding percents.  Is it me - or might there be something funny with this too?
    
    Here's the lines:
    
    In order to find x percent of any number the general way of doing that is to multiply the number by the percentage. Since percentage means hundredths of any number, percentages are written with the decimal point moved two places toward the left-hand side
    
    
    I can see how a lot of people would use similar wording, but the "general" , to me, makes the wording exactly as I have it in my Hub.

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       Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Yep that is the same website that I found mine!

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    Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

    Should I woosaaa it like from Bad Boys II? lol and yea I actually emailed the copyrite ppl of the website showing them that mine was written first hehehe arses! and it's by that same person Thranx was talkin about too...that weirdo shrine or whatever his name was

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    cosetteposted 15 years ago

    you know...i wouldn't be as upset as i am if they stole one of my 'lesser' hubs...but to steal my laura buxton one...i put a lot of heart into that one.
    
    this #@!%^&^@ is getting money for these articles, that's obvious. i'm going to complain like everyone else but there's got to be something more i can do. why is this shiftn person still there?!
    
    i feel like registering and posting somethng nasty on his (or her) profile!!!

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       Lisa HWposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I've just been assuming the decline in traffic was that the Hub ran its course; but this one Hub has been quite the contributor to my earnings.

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       Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I was so ready to do that myself...even if it was just to contact the person and lay it on him. lazy ppl I swear! Can you believe how lazy ppl are, Cosette?

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          cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          they're disgusting.
          
          ok you guys i have an idea...since this a$$clown is obviously not reading what he is STEALING, i am putting this in every single hub:
          
          This article was written by cosette and published at hubpages.com. If you are not reading this article at hubpages.com, it is a stolen article.
          
          (you can insert your own name obviously if you want to do this too. at least i won't feel so powerless).

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             Stacie Lposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             they cut out the top part and bottom part that shows where it came from and who wrote it...also comments written is missing
             to not even credit us....how is this possible!?

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    VioletSunposted 15 years ago

    The thief doesn't like my hubs which is a relief. Thanks for alerting us! I hope a Hubpages team member will put a stop to it, its awful!

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    Stacie Lposted 15 years ago

    well i have been copied also!
    i copied their owner information what is being done?
    
    Docstoc is the premier online community and marketplace to find and share professional documents. Docstoc provides the platform to upload and share documents with the world, and serves as a vast repository of free and for purchase legal, business, financial, technical, and educational documents that can be easily searched, previewed and downloaded.
    
    Docstoc also provides technology through various APIs and Widgets to help facilitate the sharing and promotion of documents across the web. The site has popularized the use of embedding documents throughout the blogosphere and mainstream media. You can learn more about embedding documents here: http://blog.docstoc.com/embed-documents … biste.html
    
    Docstoc, Inc was founded by Jason Nazar (bio) and Alon Shwartz (bio). The company was selected in September of 2007 to debut its product at the prestigious TechCrunch40 Conference. The product was subsequently launched to the public in November 2007.
    
    Docstoc is a venture backed company (Rustic Canyon) and received funding from the co-founders/investors in MySpace, LowerMyBills, Mp3.com, PriceGrabber and Baidu. Their legal counsel is DLA Piper. The company is located in Santa Monica, CA.

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    thranaxposted 15 years ago

    New people like Crazd, go read all of the posts here. We went over this all day, I was here all day. There are 18 accounts with stolen Hubs, on the last 3 pages I listed all of them. There are a total of:
    
    Of all the Shifts and the Q1 my totals are this:
    
    Docs: 392,840
    Views: 243,538 and rising about 10-1000 pageviews an hour PER account.
    
    18 accounts found.
    
    180-18000 pageviews an hour added to his/the sites account.
    
    ~thranax~

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    missalyssaposted 15 years ago

    Anybody know have any idea how they are choosing which articles to take? I checked all 17 of my hubs and found 6 copies... I just don't understand how they choose which ones to take...just wondering
    
    And great idea Cosette

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    Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

    I did read Thranax...we are just fuming and ranting that we have found our work stolen. we need to rant once in a while too ya know

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    thranaxposted 15 years ago

    Guys its a script. A spiderbot copies our text, the text is saved to a harddrive, the file is moved to the DocStoc automatic upload program. I answered all of this! Ughhhh!
    
    " Docstoc Sync is a downloadable application that runs on your PC or Mac. You can select which folders you wish to sync with Docstoc. The application will check these folders for changes and automatically sync any new or updated documents with Docstoc MyDocs. By default, Docstoc Sync will upload and sync all your documents privately on Docstoc, so no one else can view these documents without your permission. In addition Docstoc Sync installs a folder on your desktop called "Docstoc Public Documents", where you can easily upload any document to Docstoc publicly.
    "
    
    My list of KNOWN offending accounts:
    Total List of Shifts:
    
    ShiftN
    Docs: 17984
    Views: 7878
    
    ShiftM
    Docs: 19756
    Views: 30136
    
    ShiftL
    Docs: 20023
    Views: 2827
    
    ShiftK
    Docs: 22329
    Views: 37156
    
    ShiftJ
    Docs: 19083
    Views: 1452
    
    ShiftI
    Docs: 19914
    Views: 1745
    
    ShiftH
    Docs: 24764
    Views: 2491
    
    ShiftG
    Docs: 9982
    Views: 1805
    
    ShiftF
    Docs: 28647
    Views: 4619
    
    ShiftE
    Docs: 18053
    Views: 3182
    
    ShiftD
    Docs: 19903
    Views: 3608
    
    ShiftC
    Docs: 19844
    Views: 6265
    
    ShiftB
    Docs: 18236
    Views: 8752
    
    ShiftA
    Docs: 19815
    Views: 8087
    
    Shift3
    Docs: 21427
    Views: 27059
    
    Shift4
    Docs: 28421
    Views: 26548
    
    Shift5
    Docs: 19458
    Views: 11733
    
    Q16899:
    Docs: 45201
    Views: 58195
    
    Of all the Shifts and the Q1 my totals are this:
    
    Docs: 392,840
    Views: 243,538 and rising about 10-1000 pageviews an hour PER account.
    
    18 accounts found.
    
    180-18000 pageviews an hour added to his/the sites account.
    
    ~thranax~

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    Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

    I like Cosette's idea but to get our names in it we should sayin something INSIDE the hub so it would be harder for them to cut out...like
    
    "Old fashion writing sadly is being cut out because of the Internet as founded by myself, Crazwriter at Hubpages.com." it's in the text and hard to delete.

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       cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       actually that is a good idea.
       
       
       after i started copying my disclaimer i thought wow what if they are flagging "hubpages" and deleting any content with the word "hubpages" in it?
       
       i hate to ruin the flow of my hubs but if this will be plastered there for all to see, including the site's owners where this little weasel posts, it might be worth it.
       
       i don't know what to do now

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    Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

    Thranax is there any way to stop docstoc from getting our hubs?

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       thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thats like saying you can't go to my hub right now, click "select all" and copy it to Word 2007. It can't be done. Anything online is always steal able, by text copying or by picture screenshot taking.
       
       ~thranax~

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          Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          dammit! that is so not fair. we are losing views because of that stupid website

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             thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             No worries, they have a few hundred complains, and the Hubpage team breathing down there neck now. They will ban the adsense accounts and hopefully remove the content. If not, at least they can't make money of it.
             
             ~thranax~

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                Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                that is true a few hundred and one now from me LMAO and yes better not be making money off our brilliant minds and writings
                
                GO HUBTEAM!!! BEAT THEIR....*BEEP* hehehe

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    thranaxposted 15 years ago

    Update:
    
    ShiftM gained 2,000 views over the last 7 hours.
    Shift3 gained 300.
    Shift4 gained around 2,000.
    
    There increasing by a ton if thats the 3 random ones I chose to look at.
    
    ~thranax~

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    Stacie Lposted 15 years ago

    are the hub pages team working on this?
    should i stop writing here?
    I'm not wasting my time and energy.i wondered why my adsense stopped a week ago.
    I feel sick!;(

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       thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       It can happen anywhere you write online. Don't stop writing here because of this. If our problems are honored by the site and Adsense the content will be removed. If it isnt, the site makes a blacklist to google, ripping it out of all searches forever. Because google owns adsense
       
       And yes, the hubteam is aware now and doing what they can.
       
       ~thranax~

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    KCC Big Countryposted 15 years ago

    All you can do is file a complaint with the DMCA, write the website at copyright@docstoc.com, and file a complaint with Google Adsense.  You have to do this everytime you find someone copying your work. It won't ever stop.  Everytime someone invents a way to prevent it, someone else will invent a way to hack around it.  It's an age old problem, technology just makes it easier to do in bulk. 
    
    As Pgrundy and others pointed out, they've wrestled with this issue for years and are tired of filing the complaints and just take it in stride and look for alternative ways to generate revenue knowing that some of your revenue slips through your hands online.

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       Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I'll go cry in my corner now

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    Lisa HWposted 15 years ago

    I'm assuming this is a separate site, but when I tried to get to it my Firefox stalled and the PC got weird.
    
    Anyway, it appears the first two lines of my Hub showed on these:
    
    terpinnya.com/gaiaonli72/thastrele.html -
    
    pkoqfsf.is-the-boss.com/how-to-s0d/jedindndi.html - S
    
    
    and then somebody copied the whole (same) Hub onto a forum (which I know is a different thing but am wondering if that's just something we have to expect):
    
    http://www.minimins.com/cambridge-diet- … lease.html
    
    and then the same two lines showed up on some fitness-related URL, but I got "page not found".

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       thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       That is expected everywhere online. Fourms are a different story, harder to remove. The good thing is, it isn't creating anyone money. The member sites you can complain to will be easier to remove the content. The blogs and soloers are almost imposable.
       
       ~thranax~

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    thranaxposted 15 years ago

    Basically, there tactic is a farming one. Use scripts to get as many attractive pages as possible to get clicks. They know they will be caught, but they might still get away with a few $1,000 from there efforts before being banned.
    
    ~thranax~

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    KCC Big Countryposted 15 years ago

    Maddie and Ryan H. are aware of it.  You have to remember it's Sunday night with Monday being a U.S. holiday for many businesses.  Nothing will probably happen until Tuesday. If we're lucky we may see something tomorrow.  Hopefully, enough people complaining will get someone's attention when they show up for work whenever that is.

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    cosetteposted 15 years ago

    this person has an adsense account. i just registered over there to leave a comment on his profile and it says:
    
    Want to make extra money with the documents sitting on your computer? Join our DocCash program and we’ll split the advertising revenue (50/50) from all of the documents you upload to Docstoc.
    
    All you need is a Google AdSense account to join. Don’t have one yet? That’s okay - we’ll help you set one up. It's easy.
    
    
    so they are getting a truckload of money off of their stolen articles. this is criminal and they are not going to get away with it. i am going to contact the site's owners and make them get that person's IP address...if they have an adsense account they have to give them their personal information. yes it is cyberspace but i believe nowadays local police CAN get involved

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       thranaxposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Please read the posts. We known they had adsense since 2pm eastern.
       
       This is there plan for people who missed it 3 times:
       
       Basically, there tactic is a farming one. Use scripts to get as many attractive pages as possible to get clicks. They know they will be caught, but they might still get away with a few $1,000 from there efforts before being banned.
       
       
       ~thranax~

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    thranaxposted 15 years ago

    This site is held responsible for its content if it doesn't remove it after being asked to. The site can go to court for it if it doesn't delete all accounts of stolen content.
    
    ~thranax~

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       Crazdwriterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Glad the site is going to be held responsible...I just hope that they are smart about it and take down all of our stolen material.

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    emievilposted 15 years ago

    I was about to post here that I did not find any of my hubs when I saw one of my hubs about ways to earn passive income. Jeeezzz, that's my hub with the highest traffic.
    
    Not to sound insensitive or something but I have to laugh when I read my hub posted in that site. They copied everything, and I mean everything, including the amazon links on the right side. It was really weird when I read the whole thing because there smack in the middle are the titles of the books from amazon and their prices.

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       KCC Big Countryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       That's what Thranax is trying to tell you folks, it's not a person sitting at a computer hitting right click and pasting them one by one.  This is being done in bulk with computer programming.  It doesn't notice things like what you're talking about. Content is content.  It's picking it up and feeding it to that site and at a rapid rate.  But they have to be quick because they know they will be caught.  You get in, make your money, get banned, and start again.

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          glendoncabaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Hmm.  Interesting business model.  Would make a good hub.  Now what shall i call it... "internet mafia".
          
          Not found any of mine yet.  Guess my content not attractive for them.
          
          Great team work all.  No matter where you do business you will have to cope with pilferage etc.  But this is blatant and HP ought to move quickly to protect the platform here.  I like the idea of non-copyable text.

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    KCC Big Countryposted 15 years ago

    Cosette:  File a complaint with DMCA, it's at the bottom of docstoc's website.  Give the url's of yours and the copied ones.  Then, you'll get an email confirmation of that complaint.  Forward that complaint to copyright@docstoc.com.  Then, file a complaint with Google Adsense giving them all of the same information.   
    
    That's all you can do.  According to Maddie, she has already filed a complaint with docstoc.

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       cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       ok you guys. thanks, and thanks thranax. i left him a nasty email and exposed him on my profile over there.

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    thranaxposted 15 years ago

    We believe at this time, because of the US holiday on monday, or the fact its the weekend, no one is working at DocStoc and therefore will not do anything until monday or tuesday.
    
    ~thranax~

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    thranaxposted 15 years ago

    Thanks Shinu for summarizing everything I said all day in detail in one little post. I'm happy some people are understanding me. There are 18 accounts if you go 1 or 2 pages back, that stole a total of about 390,000 articles that resulted in a 250,000 pageview gain and rising.
    
    ~thranax~

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