I'm Leaving!

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  1. Nadine May profile image71
    Nadine Mayposted 3 years ago

    I feel that Hubpages wants to get rid of me are a member...I Probably take this new rating to personally, but it's NOT encouraging! I had every intent to re-edit some of my articles to see if I could get it republish and see my ratings getting up at least some, and silly of me, one of my best and most visited article I edit so I thought was even an improvement, although it was published, and now its been unpublished. I do NOT enjoy being a HubPages writer anymore and will probably gradually take every article and published it on my blogs. I never wrote here for the money anyway, which is peanuts anyway.

    1. lovetherain profile image69
      lovetherainposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      That's too bad. You have some interesting articles.

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks for your comment about finding my articles interesting. I've just been to your hub address and will read at least one of your articles on my to-do list for today.

    2. bravewarrior profile image94
      bravewarriorposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I hate to see you go, Nadine, but I understand. You have to do what's right for you.

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Shauna, I still do not know what I must do. I have to finish some writing projects first and then will see what I will do with the articles that do not have featured qualities, which they have been before. For now, my focus has to be on my own work and finishing the self employed housewife sage and my latest novel Reality Shifters.

    3. galleryofgrace profile image73
      galleryofgraceposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Nadine you might want to get them to check your scores.  47 is the pits. and you write a lot better than me and have 4 times more articles.

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Gosh to see that many of you have expressed a sadness if I would leave Hubpages, that in itself has truly warmed my heart. Thank you all. I've just visited your page and to see what you are writing about. It's not my time is on my todo list to read before the day is over.

    4. robhampton profile image95
      robhamptonposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      There are days that I'm pretty sure HP hates me and wants rid of me too. But in retrospect, it's just that they only want the best. They have become VERY strict with approving articles and are doing so because they know what search engines like, and don't like. I get it. They have to do this to move forward and continue to provide us writers an opportunity. They don't "want you off HP"

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        I see that you write about everything to do with swimming pools. So you are saying that is what search engines go for? I hope not, but who knows what people are typing into the Google search box these days. I agree that my topics are probably not as popular, so be it. thanks for adding that HP does not want me to leave. Personally, I do not truly think they care one way or the other...but that is just me.

        1. Jean Bakula profile image97
          Jean Bakulaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          I write about all sorts of metaphysical stuff, and they often get turned down because I submit them to the wrong niche, or they don't understand where to put it! I looked at some of your articles and I really liked them. A few had long, run on sentences, and many of your subtitles are not capitalized. But with a few edits, I think a lot of your work would work well in Exemplore.com.

          Why not start with the one they didn't like, and write to team@hubpages.com to ask them specific questions? The editor there is Taylor, and she has been helpful to me. I was asked by her to add quite a bit to certain articles I submitted, but had first submitted them to another niche. It was a series of 12 articles, and I confused what niche the first few were on. The first niche asked me to take out a lot of the material. When Taylor understood I had already been asked to edit a lot out of the two articles in question, she got the articles back to the correct niche, and I didn't have to do anything. They all have different rules. So before you submit, go to individual niches and make sure your work is what they are looking for.

          The capitalization and grammar rules are a lot stricter now. I've found a lot of errors in my own work. But if you have been here long it's best to fix them up, being sure what the editors want, than to start over on a personal blog where you won't have a big audience.

          1. Nadine May profile image71
            Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks, Jean for your reply. I,m truly impressed by the caring community at Hubpages. None of my articles are featured in  Exemplore.com. I had a long text conversation with an HP member on my cell this morning (while still in bed) ( not an HP editor ) I'm sure she had every intent to be helpful, but instead, she totally demoted me. Yes, she did gave me lots of news about the changes with Hubpages and why, saying that they use to publish anything. That was in itself not so nice to read and texting on my cell is a challenge, especially to a professional editor ( her words) who then remarks on my sentence structure.  I give my articles a lot more attention! I'm now not yet recovered enough to contact an HP team editor. I have to admit that some of my articles are probably not in the right niche, but I can't seem to choose a better one, so I leave it for now.

            1. Jean Bakula profile image97
              Jean Bakulaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

              I'm sorry you got treated so badly. The administration said they hired about a dozen new editors a few weeks ago, but my articles are taking even longer to get moved to niches. But I don't fix up the ones still on HP until I am ready to move them. I made a lot of mistakes when I was new, and have been sick of changing articles I wrote years ago. But they do much better on niches.

              I read a few of your articles and I think Exemplore is really the place for you. Many of the so called editors don't really understand the kind of subjects you or I are writing about. It's not you, it's them, not paying attention. Don't let them get to you. They aren't any better or smarter than you, they just think they are.

              Hang in there!

              1. Nadine May profile image71
                Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                OK, Jean thanks for your reply. I will now have to try to address my issues with the HP editing team by sending them an email/. I have not yet done that. Asking them why, after I have had a personal editor looking at two of my articles, again they where not featured. No emails were ever sent either.

            2. kenneth avery profile image80
              kenneth averyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

              smile at Nadine: I am here by the grace of God after suffering a stroke over the Easter weekend and staying in a huge hospital (with tests) for three days and nights. I am not saying this to gain pity, but only to say to you: DO NOT LEAVE us here at HubPages. I cannot get any plainer.
              YOU are needed here and We All Love You Much.

    5. kenneth avery profile image80
      kenneth averyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      @Nadine --- stop! You are Very talented and I feel in my heart
      that if you do leave HP, it will be one of the worst mistakes you
      could make. At least pray about it. I hate it when I see people
      like you get down and then you start acting on feelings. Stop!
      Look around. Look at all of the many friends you have. All
      of the friends who know and appreciate you.
      I  beg you, Nadine. Think if over and do NOT leave.

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Kenneth when I read your loving comment just before I went to bed last night, you made me truly feel better about myself and my writings. I realized that being dyslexic and that English is my second language, I'm not doing too badly, but the moment my writing is getting judged, even if it is by a program, not a human being, I still seem to react to it. That was an interesting observation about myself. I might even write an article about the handicaps I face each day to do with writing most have no idea about. On my todo list, I have added your article The Ignorance Germ

        1. kenneth avery profile image80
          kenneth averyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          @ Nadine smile I am humbled at your remark (above). And if you recall,
          I think it was last year, I told someone that "I," am a simple man,
          doing a simple job but to influence the special people around my life."
          I meant it then and I mean it now. You are VERY talented, Nadine. And
          I know that once you have completely thought your juncture over, you
          will see just how much that you have grown---as a fellow hubber,
          gmwilliams says (below) "please don't leave  . . ." he says to you,
          and I cannot improve on that. In fact, I agree with him/her 110%
          Please stay?

    6. gmwilliams profile image84
      gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Please DON'T leave.  I love your insight & responses.  I also love your articles.  DON'T LEAVE PLEASE, YOU ARE A VERY GIFTED WRITER!

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Grace many thanks for your compliment on Bolt. In times of self-doubt about once writing skills, it always helps when someone likes, in my case my writing style. I've added your article: How Family Size Determines One's Attitude Towards Money on my to-do reading list.

        1. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you.

    7. paradigmsearch profile image60
      paradigmsearchposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      You updated your most-visited article and they unpublished it? That is indeed pretty grim. Scary actually. I've gone from 90+ articles to now being down to 8. All of it due to various fracases with the editors. I'm not going anywhere near my remaining 8. As for the gone 80-90 articles? That's easily costing me somewhere between $100-200/month. Not a darn thing I could do about it. And I darn sure could use that money right about now.

      1. honghanhvt1182 profile image95
        honghanhvt1182posted 3 years agoin reply to this

        wow, it is indeed scary for something like this to happen. I can't believe that our hard work can be gone in an instant just like that! I think I should begin to back up my data and articles just in case.

    8. snakeslane profile image84
      snakeslaneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      The score thing has me puzzled. I see veteran writers, good solid community members with great articles, and ridiculously low scores. Not impressed.

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Yes, Verlie it's truly mindboggling about the scoring. I am starting to understand that it has somehow to do with the algorithm and keywords. Keywords I understand but I do not understand anything to do with the algorithm of an article. I then wonder has the scoring anything to do with the writing in itself? it's a computer word and a program done by robots in my reality. They are not for real!

    9. kenneth avery profile image80
      kenneth averyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      @ Nadine, now do you see what I mean?

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Yes, thank you (and many others) for the friendship and the support.

    10. Garry Reed profile image92
      Garry Reedposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Nadine I get some of your frustrations. My biggest problem is trying to get some of my humor past the editor-proofers. I don't think they get satire or wordplay so they keep "correcting" it for me and spoil the whole intent. I've spent years as a technical writer, editor and proofreader and I've  proofed & edited my own stuff multiple times and also been scrutinized by gram editors and technical editors and even checked by peer review and even then i go back and proof the proofers.

      As for your low scores I don't get that at all. I've seen some really bad stuff on Hub worse than yours so you should be getting much higher scores. I'll hate to see you go. If you find a good place to land let me know and I might just join you there.

  2. Kenna McHugh profile image90
    Kenna McHughposted 3 years ago

    I am curious. Did you send a personal email to the HP team and let them know your frustrations?  Don't get me wrong. If you gotta go, you gotta go. But, there are times when one is due recourse.  HP is going through changes, so it might help to email them.

    1. Natalie Frank profile image93
      Natalie Frankposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with considering contacting HP and if nothing else giving them feedback.  I don't understand why it seems recently a lot of hubbers are reporting that they are taking already strong articles and working on them more only to have them unfeatured.  If you feel strongly about going and aren't enjoying writing here any more of course you should do what's  best for you.  You might also want to pm some hubbers you feel a connection to and see what they recommend.  One of the things I love the most here is the community and I've found it to be very supportive and helpful.  Good luck whatever you decide to do and success in all your future endeavors.

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Natalie thanks for your comments. When I responded by texting I'm leaving, and why that was in a burst of frustration when I saw that two of my most visited articles were suddenly demoted to a not featured status after I edit them. I should not have done anything. Many of my hub page articles are promoted on my blogs, so I cannot just leave, but I can stop writing for HubPages. I will see in the following months what I shall do but thanks for your good luck wishes.

    2. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Kenna, I have not because I have never felt very supported by the HubPages employees, that is probably due to the automatic rejection emails I received in the past. They are now ending up in my junk box, so I do not see them anymore. These emails have no energy to them they are just robotic emails and I NEVER reply to those. Yes, the changes must have to do with Google and where they can add their adverts among the articles. Funny enough the articles that have no featured qualities they STILL DO have annoying advertising posted within them. It's probably to do with the survival of HubPages as a business. Very sad. Sign of our times.  Ha Ha I earned 8 cents last month!

    3. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Send an email yesterday asking for help with the network websites and asking for the reasons why my latest professional edit two articles were again not featured. Hope to hear from them this week?

      1. Sue Adams profile image97
        Sue Adamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Hi Nadine,
        I see that your hubber score has only gone up by 2 points.

        Before bothering busy staff why don't you implement all the advice you have been given in this thread for each and every one of your 127 articles?

        Check all 127 Titles with https://capitalizemytitle.com/# (bookmark the link)
        These titles are still wrong and many more  but I can't go through all of them, that is your job.
        Earning a Passive Income without any Investment
        We are Symbols of Light
        Six opportunities for people to find their passion to make a difference.(capitalize and no full stop)

        Grammar and punctuation (https://www.grammarly.com/) - bookmark the link

        Plus improve your lay-out as shown in this thread.

        You will see your number of featured articles, your traffic and hubber score go up once you've done all the hard work, I promise.

        1. Nadine May profile image71
          Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Sue thank you again for your encouragement to go and edit my hubs, especially the posts that are not featured. So far I have gone over ten articles and fixed the capitalization's. it's now time for lunch.
          While I've been at it my scale has now dropped?  After lunch I will go over the rest

  3. EricFarmer8x profile image96
    EricFarmer8xposted 3 years ago

    HubPages guidelines change over time and it is possible what you wrote was featured in the past but now no longer meets current guidelines. Part of the online writing process is making edits so you content stats up to date and still good looking. This is why HubPages changes the guidelines and make them more strict with time. I would review all the guidelines and review what HubPages wants out of stellar Hubs and make edits based on that.

    A quick glance at your profile and I see most of your Hubs outside a few creative pieces are not on network websites. To really pick up in views you want to edit your pieces so that they qualify for the network sections of HubPages. For example, you have multiple Hubs that might qualify for Exemplore with edits.

    That is assuming you want to at all seeing how it seems like you want to quit HubPages. Just know even on your own blogs you still want to keep content updated and edited after a while. Google doesn't look old content that looks out of date anywhere.

    1. Jeremy Gill profile image94
      Jeremy Gillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly. It may not be ideal in terms of quality, but in terms of viewership, editing old articles that one suspects would fail the current and more stringent QAP can actually hurt Hubbers by getting the team to look at them again, realize they aren't up to snuff, and unfeature them.

      In other words, if you're going to edit an old article, make sure you edit it to the point of passing the QAP.

      1. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Jeremy sorry for my ignorance but what are the letters QAP stand for? I tried to find the answer on Hubpages but could not find it.

        1. Jeremy Gill profile image94
          Jeremy Gillposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          No problem. Quality Assessment Process, the process of the editors reviewing our Hubs and deciding whether to feature them.

    2. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Wow Eric I see that you write about video games and technology. I can just imagine that is why you have a 99 score. Google loves you! I'm reading that you are using Ubuntu MATE 17.10 as your main operating system. I only learned that the word UBUNTU was a computer program when I advertised the Zulu word UBUNTU on a Tshirt. Do you know what the Zulu word really means? (please investigate!)
      I never joined Hubpages to make money with my writing, but I do agree that updating articles is important, and I have done nothing else this year. I have also read the guidelines every time I received an automatic email. My error has been not to capitalize every word in my title headings. My content is NOT for the mass market like yours must be, but I have a passion about what I write about and now that I've learned that the ranking has nothing to do with our writing skills, I will not remove my articles as of yet.  I'm glad for all the support I received of all the hub page members on this forum, including yours.

  4. Coffeequeeen profile image84
    Coffeequeeenposted 3 years ago

    Aww no, sorry to hear you're leaving Nadine.  I'll miss reading your articles.  sad

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Louise after so many responses from hub page members I will not remove articles as of yet, but I might not write articles for Hubpages this year. I will only finish my S.E.H chapters. I have many other writing commitments. I will now and then log in to read what my writer friends have published and leave a comment, but ever since I have replied to all the people on this forum, my rating has even dropped further by 2 points? I will look at your film reviews and see if there are any movies I know.

  5. Frank Atanacio profile image80
    Frank Atanacioposted 3 years ago

    so you're giving them the satisfaction?  I would not..

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      No Frank you are right. I will not after having a night to think about it. Why my scores are so very low is still a mystery for me, but there is something I need to learn from it. When I have discovered what it is, I will have to share that in an article, but for now I have no clue.

  6. Jodah profile image91
    Jodahposted 3 years ago

    Nadine, that would be such a shame if such a gifted writer as yourself were to leave HubPages. I totally understand how you must feel, however. A score of 47 is ridiculous. My score has actually been higher in recent months even though I have been writing here less.
    As others have suggested, I would at least email the team and tell them of your frustrations. Good luck in whatever you choose to do.

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Jodah I saw just now that whoever is responsible for adding my articles to any of the H networks have absolutely no clue what my article is about! No wonder that they do not get any traffic! My article: The Hidden Blueprint of our Lives is listed under fiction! Yes, it's about the inner depth of creating a cast of characters for a novel,  so it should be listed on a network to do with creative writing, but under fiction, people expect short stories or chapters of a novel, not how to and what is involved to do with writing fiction. I have no clue if there is such a network. The titles of the networks totally elude me. I can't be bothered to email them after that blunder.
      I do wonder if we are writers can choose under which category our articles fall under? Having said that, that does mean I have to click on each network to find out what they mean...I have no time for that now so I have to leave it.

      1. Jodah profile image91
        Jodahposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Nadine, that is crazy but I know it happens. When you choose to submit your own articles to network sites you can choose which one you want them in, however, if the moderator/editor thinks it belongs elsewhere that's where they will put it.

        1. Nadine May profile image71
          Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Yes I wish We have a better choice. There are several options but they do not always fit my article and then I'm at a loss.

  7. janshares profile image95
    jansharesposted 3 years ago

    Oh no Nadine, you'd be missed! Love following you on Twitter, too. Before you leave, take some time to see what it will take to stay and turn this around. It may be worth the investment. Many of us are no longer just making pennies. You know and many of us who are familiar with your work know you are not a 47 hubber!

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      You are so kind Janis. My score has now dropped to 45...its a joke really. I think I have discovered what my problem is and boy I will have a field day writing about why I think my score is so low...but I'm not so sure if that is wise. From childhood on I have NEVER fit into the general mode so to speak. My dyslexia and having unexplained visions and views of our reality does not really fit into the mindset of the robotic programs that run Hubpages.

      1. janshares profile image95
        jansharesposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks for your reply, Nadine. I appreciate you sharing all of this. Whatever you decide, I want you to know that I've always considered your originality and unmatched creativity a good fit into the fabric of our unique HP community. Peace and hugs.

        1. Nadine May profile image71
          Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you

  8. Gregory DeVictor profile image98
    Gregory DeVictorposted 3 years ago

    Nadine, I am totally baffled by what you are saying. Yes, totally baffled. If I was in your place, I would feel the exact same way. Like others, I suggest that you contact HP and try to find out what’s what. Regarding your desire to leave HP, don’t be lead by your emotions and make haste slowly about leaving HP. I really hope that things turn around for you.

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Gregory thanks for your comment. Whatever program is responsible for adding my articles to any of the H networks have absolutely no clue what my articles are about! No wonder that they do not get any traffic! I'm not removing my articles but I will not write any more for now. My I'm leaving was typed while reacting to a downscale, I could not give a hoot about the total score in itself. I know my limitations to do with the English language, being my second language I'm sure my title heading are often obscure, so the only way I can change that is to delete an article and re-upload them again, but that is a lot of work I have to time for.

      1. theraggededge profile image98
        theraggededgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        No. Don't do that. You can easily change a title  by clicking on it. If you unpublish, you lose all the benefits that age confers. Not only that, if someone has copied it, your new hub will show up as the plagiarised version.

  9. PaulGoodman67 profile image96
    PaulGoodman67posted 3 years ago

    As a seasoned Hubber I would say that:

    1. The score doesn't matter.

    2. HP goes through phases where people post in the forums and threaten to leave. If you really want to leave, then just leave. It's a personal choice.

    3. Editors will always have issues with the way that English is delivered, that is their job. When you write English, you have to consider how it represents yourself. For example: "I had every intent to re-edit some of my articles to see if I could get it republish and see my ratings getting up at least some, and silly of me, one of my best and most visited article I edit so I thought was even an improvement, although it was published, and now its been unpublished." That is not a good sentence.

    4. Nobody, and I certainly include myself, has any divine right to be published.

    1. snakeslane profile image84
      snakeslaneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Wondering why scores are used at all if they "don't matter".

      1. TessSchlesinger profile image95
        TessSchlesingerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        They do matter.  They don't tell us how they are comprised because otherwise people would game the system. They're a fair indication of how one is measuring up in terms of quality of work.

        That does not mean one isn't earning money from ages past. All algorithms cater to articles that have been on the web a long time, and if they're still working (readers don't bounce), then they are still okay even if they don't measure HP's current rules.

        1. Nadine May profile image71
          Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Tess I do NOT understand a word you just typed. All I know is that I did my homework and editing. I write from my Passion NOT like some, who only write articles to make money! Mirror mirror on the wall!

          1. TessSchlesinger profile image95
            TessSchlesingerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            The very fact that you do not understand is indicative of how much you need to learn. Writing on the internet requires not only a talent and a capacity to write, but quite an intensive knowledge of how to write on the web and what the rules are of the site you work on. With respect, you have clearly demonstrated that you have none of that. As yet, you have not read any of the hubpage tutorials.

            Writing for passion is superior to writing for money?

            Regardless of whether you write for passion or money, if you want your articles featured, and if you want them featured on hubpages, then you have to be able to write to a professional standard, have some knowledge of Search Engine Optimization. You also need be familiar with and respectful of hubpages rules.

            You might like to listen to what world famous sci fi author Harlan Ellison has to say about that.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE

            I truly don't believe that you need some encouragement for your writing. Your first comment here was that you couldn't understand why your articles weren't being featured because you had written all  your books. When I pointed out everything you needed to know (privately so that you were't embarrassed in public), you were peeved when I finally pointed out that your writing was not to the level it was required to be. You then said (here) that your books were edited by your parter. Well, if they were edited by your partner, and you knew that, why point out that your books were published so you must be a good writer?

            It's really not important if you stay or leave. That is your choice.

            You told me that the only reason you were writing on hubpages was to sell your books - not to make money. Do you think by making friends on hubpages that people are going to buy your books?

            I repeat. Hubpages no longer permits people to write on hubpages in order to promote their own work or to be used for marketing other goods. It is now a professional writing site that earns in the same way that newspapers and commercial magazines earn money. It requires professional writing because Google will not send traffic to it unless the writing is of a professional standard.

            Again. Regardless of whether you have dyslexia or English is your second language, you still need to write to a professional standard.  And even if you do, you will not be permtted to link to your books.

            By the way, my late father wrote and spoke 11 languages. His home language was German, but he wrote and spoke English well enough to report for Reuters International in English. And English is not my first language. My mother was Afrikaans and my father German. Yet my English was good enough by the age of 11 to be published in a national newsaper.

    2. Sue Adams profile image97
      Sue Adamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed, that sentence should read:
      "I had every intention to edit some of my articles to see if they could get republished and see my ratings go up a little. Silly of me, I edited one of my best published and most visited articles thinking it was an improvement and now it's been unpublished."

      Why do you do this? As another seasoned Hubber I say:
      Instead of giving Nadine some help with a corrected version of that sentence to help her, you knock her down. Had you taken the trouble to read some of Nadine's work you may have realized that there is a big difference between a forum post and a published article that has passed QAP.

      No one has the divine right to expose a colleague in such a negative way without taking the trouble to read their work.

      1. snakeslane profile image84
        snakeslaneposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        I like your bottom line Sue.

      2. Jodah profile image91
        Jodahposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        People's writing ability should never be judged or criticised by what they write in forums. We often do that quickly and without a lot of care. It is only in the hub or article that it matters.

      3. Nadine May profile image71
        Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks Sue and I love your corrections...of my clumsy paragraph...love you all.

  10. Sue Adams profile image97
    Sue Adamsposted 3 years ago

    Hello Nadine,

    You know yourself that even when things go wrong, life always has a way of picking itself up again and things always get better.

    If I were you, I would certainly not leave HubPages. With a little work you could turn things around by doing 2 things in a couple of hours. How?

    1. Title Capitalization
    2. Create an Ebook

    1. Capitalization
    Your article "From a writer to a published author" proves that you are an accomplished writer. The only thing that's wrong with it is that the title is not properly capitalized.
    You can paste any title into the online tool

    Capitalize My Title

    which will instantly capitalize any title properly. For example, I pasted your title "From a writer to a published author" (without the quotation marks) and got this instant result:

    From a Writer to a Published Author.
    Use this tool to check title capitalization for all your articles.

    2. Create an Ebook

    HubPages is an article site, not a book publisher.
    I would remove all hubs about "The Self Employed Housewife – Diary of a foreigner", turn them into an Ebook and publish that on Amazon.

    Then sit back and see what happens.

    Hou je taai! as they say in Holland (stay strong)

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Sue after I read your comment I must truly thank you for the suggestions you gave me. Title Capitalization is one I seem to have failed in. I have now started to correct that and it will be interesting if that will make a difference. Yes, my Self Employed housewife sage book one is already on Amazon available as an ebook and on the Kindle. It's my intent to finish book 2 and then re-edit the two into one book, but I will leave the chapters on Hubpages but change the chapter numbering.  I've added your article Back and Hip Pain When Walking? (3 Tips to Ease the Pain) on my todo list from reading today

      1. sallybea profile image97
        sallybeaposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        As a fellow ex-South African I sometimes think that we have a unique way of expressing ourselves which not everyone seems to understand.  It seems a shame to me that you feel that you have to go because of a Hubscore.  My hubs are sometimes so heavily edited that I often feel as if they were not written by me:)
        I did copy and paste 2 of your hubs into word and found several errors so if you do have Word or possibly the free Grammarly download you might find it very helpful. The Capitalization tool is a godsend and has helped me get to grips with my titles.  I think that even those small improvements will increase your Hubscore.  I know everyone says it does not matter but I think it does, especially if you are a writer with feelings as you clearly are.

  11. Venkatachari M profile image65
    Venkatachari Mposted 3 years ago

    Nadine, it is the same case with me. Discouraged! I edited one of my top-viewed article only for correcting those right-floated capsules and it got unpublished. Since then, I have been editing and re-submitting it again and again (more than 20 times). But, it does not get featured till now.

    But, you should be more confident as a great writer and never lose hope.

    We writers always need to be of more endurance and positive mentality.

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I see now that you like me are writing articles in a language that is not your native tongue so to speak.  After having replied to all the comments here in this forum, I've learned more about Hubpages then in the years I've been a member. Words are stepping stones to the truth...For some those words prevent them from learning the truth behind the words. Your passion is like mine, to spread some awareness among people about the human values, morals and nice relationships that are essential for happiness and peace in life. Very honored to have you as a writer friend.

  12. TessSchlesinger profile image95
    TessSchlesingerposted 3 years ago

    Nadine, I see you are in Cape Town. Want to meet up? I fan help you with your hubs.

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Tess yes I'm in Clovelly I would love it if you can point out to me what I do wrong with my articles. I'm always eager to learn. I see that we are friends on Facebook. I will send you a message. I can't seem to text you on Facebook, so you have to text me. must be to do with your setting?

  13. Lisa Jane39 profile image83
    Lisa Jane39posted 3 years ago

    I hope you stay. You write interesting and fascinating articles.

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Many thanks, Lisa it's people like you who find my articles of interest that I will not leave. Not this year anyway.

  14. TessSchlesinger profile image95
    TessSchlesingerposted 3 years ago

    Okay. Look forward to meeting with you. No need to leave! smile

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Ha ha interesting to find someone so close

  15. theraggededge profile image98
    theraggededgeposted 3 years ago

    I was scrolling through your hubs, Nadine and saw the one about earning opportunities with writing. You have it categorised under 'odd jobs'. 'Odd jobs' mean things like fixing a downpipe or mending a door. The hub doesn't belong there. It should just be under Income & Making Money.

    It might be a good idea to check your hubs to make sure you have them in the correct places.

    When submitting to a network site, you don't need to know exactly which one to go for. Just choose the one you think is the best match and the editors will check to make sure it gets where it needs to go smile

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Many thanks Bev I will have a look

  16. Kenna McHugh profile image90
    Kenna McHughposted 3 years ago

    Nadine, Thank you for your reply I understand about the auto-replies. That can be frustrating. Of late, I have received moderator notes or suggestions, which are not auto-replies, within the auto-reply content, and they have been helpful. But, I still have to weed through the formed content. However, I have found by sending an email directly, human responses.

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Oh really. Thanks Kenna I have not seen emails from them like those, but will look into my junk folder before I delete them all.

      1. Barbara Kay profile image81
        Barbara Kayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

        Nadine, I looked at your topics and you offer some interesting reading. Don't leave yet. We may be headed for the best traffic ever here. Three writing sites joining together could give us some real authority.

        Your author score doesn't mean anything. Ignore it and move on. Good luck with what ever you decide.

  17. paradigmsearch profile image60
    paradigmsearchposted 3 years ago

    Pick your favorite unpublished/unfeatured article and make it be all that it can be.

    Submit it to a network site.

    If accepted, move on to the next one.
    If rejected, move it to your website/blog.

    Worth a shot. big_smile

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I might give that a try, thanks for the tip, but after I hope to receive a reply email from the HP editor team.

  18. MizBejabbers profile image90
    MizBejabbersposted 3 years ago

    Nadine, I would really hate to see you leave. You are a very good writer and your subject matter is interesting. I enjoy your hubs very much. For you, the score you mentioned is ridiculous. Surely that is a computer glitch or some kind of error. I would contact them to find out. As for as changing your capitalization in your headlines, they do require a particular style, which is only one of the styles I learned in feature writing classes. They changed a couple of mine, too. But I've had to learn several styles of writing during my career so it was just another day for me.

    I really hope you get this worked out and decide to stay. I think things may be different after all their technical writers get drafted into Maven. The invitees I've seen all write articles that would be classed as technical writing, which is something that really doesn't interest me. That will leave holes in HubPages that hopefully will create a greater demand for true creative writers. I hate to say this, but as a former editor of 33 years, god knows there are enough wanna-be writers on HP who need to take some courses in basic English grammar and punctuation--and pay attention and learn while they are there. Some of them have great imaginations, just no sense of execution. You are one of the best here, and I truly hope you will get things worked out and stay.

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Doris many thanks for your positive compliment, because my self-confidence has truly received a hard knock to do with my ratings. I do not easily give up, but when it comes to the one skill I have given all my energy to for the last ten years, I need to hang in there. Members of this forum have all given me a lot of encouragement, and for that I'm grateful.

  19. Lady Lorelei profile image89
    Lady Loreleiposted 3 years ago

    Good luck Nadine.

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Lorelei

  20. Sue Adams profile image97
    Sue Adamsposted 3 years ago

    To get things finished I always find it easier to do one job at a time.

    1. Do all the titles. Don't get distracted by grammar, punctuation or layout. Just keep doing titles until they are all done.
    2. Next job: Grammerly
    3. Layout (if necessary)

    I know i's really boring to work like a robot but you have to if you want to get things finished to succeed.

    Results will follow once it's all done.

    Happy working!

    1. Nadine May profile image71
      Nadine Mayposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Well, all the articles I've edited so far, they are still been rejected.  I'm so disappointed. I got Grammerly been there done that - I'm sure there is nothing wrong with my layout!

  21. Patricia C Akosah profile image42
    Patricia C Akosahposted 3 years ago

    Well said!!

  22. Cynthia Hoover profile image94
    Cynthia Hooverposted 3 years ago

    TessSchlesinger very well said, you have made some extremely valid points that a lot of hubbers could likely benefit from understanding. I personally have dyslexia and writing is both a passion and obstacle for me at times. Despite it all I still have done rather well writing here on HubPages.

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image95
      TessSchlesingerposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you. Writing well may certainly be more difficult with those who are dyslexic, but it is far from impossible. I salute you! smile

 
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