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   eugbugposted 3 years ago

   Analogous to Greta Thunberg requesting that the Titanic be retrofitted so it runs on electricity and not coal.

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      Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Lol!

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   Sherry Hewinsposted 3 years ago

   So... I logged out of my HP account and tried to post a comment on AxelAddict. The site still recognized me and allowed me to comment without repeating the signing in process.
   
   So, I logged out and logged on to my husband's Google account; then it didn't know me, but I was able to comment by going through the same process as I had when logged in as myself. This indicates to me that the general public is able to comment as long as they provide a valid email address and put in a verification code just the same as HP members are. Am I wrong?

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      Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I think that's how it is going to work, but I don't think alot of people will go through all that trouble to sign in just to leave a comment.

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         eugbugposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         On most sites though, logging in is standard practice for leaving a comment, either using email or through social media accounts. Presumably this is to stop bots leaving comments.

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            PaulGoodman67posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I'm in favor of anything that stops the crap comments from spammers and obnoxious, bored teens, they're the ones that require all the policing. The comments I get from logged in people tend to be ones that are relevant.

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               Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Kind of seeing a green and a red light here. Both are great.

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               Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               I suppose if they log in they will leave good comments, but what about the time it takes away from their day.
               
               I think many will read and not respond.

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                  Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Hardly, but perhaps.

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                  Sherry Hewinsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  If they are motivated enough to log in once, they won't have to do it again. I am OK with this.

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                     Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     That sounds promising.   If they only have to do it once.
                     
                     So far, I've had to do it each time.

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            Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Perhaps

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         Sherry Hewinsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         You are probably right, but I am happy to know that comments are not limited to HP members. I used to get a lot of very relevant comments and questions, mostly from the general public.

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            Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Absolutely.   I want those from the general public to leave us comments.

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               Rodric29posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               I also want those comments from the general public. The whole point of it is to find people so interested in our work that they must join in and comment. Maybe social media has permanently ended those days for us on this site. Maybe the site will end if it does not get a  major contract with a social media site? I don't know.

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               ChitrangadaSharanposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               I agree Brenda. Many of my family and friends, not associated with Hubpages, read my work, and want to leave comments. It's disappointing for them as well, as conveyed by many messages.
               After all, there was a feature, which enabled 'approved' or 'spam' or 'delete ' by the author. That was working well. Isn't it??

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                  Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Chitrangada
                  I did have many people reading my work, but honestly I've heard a few complain about those ads popping up, so now I'm not sure.
                  I do hope this new feature lets anyone leave a comment.

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                     ChitrangadaSharanposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     Yes, those ads are distracting indeed. I have heard the same complaints from many readers, when I shared them in some Facebook groups. The readers lose interest in reading the actual article, when so many ads pop up.

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                        Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        Hubpages will soon take care of all these distracting ads. That will later be a forgone conclusion.

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                           Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           Great news...hopefully

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                              Pamela99posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                              I sure hope it is soon, and to finally fix the comments in some fashion.

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                                 Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                                 Pamela, I'm completely with you in that.

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   Miebakagh57posted 3 years ago

   That I agree.

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   cam8510posted 3 years ago

   I'll try it out. This might bring me back to HP. You succeeded in devastating the community by virtually eliminating commenting. The most you will do now is to cut your losses regarding those writers you lost. But I do hope this works.

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   HubPagesposted 3 years ago

   Hi all! We will be rolling out comments (still the same system for now) on Soapboxie and LetterPile. They should be live within 24 hours. We are still working on making changes to the commenting system and will keep you all posted on any modifications.

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      Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      So glad to have the comments back on LetterPile. Thank you so much HP.
      Best wishes!

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      Jodahposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you HubPages. Glad LetterPile is one of the next. Good luck with the improvements too.

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      Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah!  Thank you for letting us know.

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         Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Prayers answered

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            Rodric29posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you for remembering to pray! I am going to add mine. I don't want the Mailbag to go away. I think we should email Bill questions.

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               Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Thank you! I agree with you, Rodric. Mondays are too boring without Mr.Bill's mailbags. I believe, he just doesn't want to continue with the series because of no comments. I believe we can convince him to continue with the series by writing questions to him. Insha'Allah, the time will soon come when comments on Discover.com will be restored.
               
               See this: https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4208555
               
               Blessings to you!

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      Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Great news indeed!

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         Pamela99posted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I'm very glad we will be able to comment on LetterPile.

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            Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, that's a welcome development.

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      PegCole17posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      That's great news! Thank you.

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      ChitrangadaSharanposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Thank you HubPages, for the updates. Sounds great.

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      EricDockettposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Again, why not fix the problems before rolling out to more sites?

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         Shesabutterflyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I could not agree with this more!
         
         HP is the tech team looking into the inability to log back in on AxleAddict? My only option is to create a username which I already have. I can sign in to WanderWisdom, but I do not have that option on AxleAddict, nor is it recognizing me even if I'm logged in here or on WanderWisdom.

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      theraggededgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe you should ONLY have the comments on Letterpile and cancel them on the other sites?

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         Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Bev, you there? D'you keep money on the table? Nope.                                      You bet the comment system gone with the wind, right on the onset?                                                I don't bet with you back then. Or I would have ask you to put the money in my hand.                                        Seriously, I took  Samartha at her word. When she move out, I took Matt at his word. Now, the comment system is being roll out, AxleAddict, WanderWisdom...later,  Soapboxie, LetterPile within the next 12 hours...                                              Way to go.

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            theraggededgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Money on the table? Betting? I have no idea what you are talking about?
            
            The point I am making is that, as sitewide comment approval is not working properly yet, i.e. we can't moderate them via the dashboard, perhaps it would be better to restrict them for the time being to Letterpile.

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               Shesabutterflyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               I respectfully disagree. It should be removed from all niche's until it is functioning properly. I fear this system however, is not going to get much better than what we currently have.
               
               Letterpile is no longer simply poetry or creative writing. It contains quite a bit of search friendly content now. I have worked very hard to get one of my articles on the front page of Google. It doesn't belong on Letterpile, however I'm stuck there. It is finally bringing in good search traffic (back to the levels I had pre-niche site move) this year and now I fear all my hard work is going to go down the drain. This article is one of my top performing, but I can only imagine the damage the comments will do now.
               
               I understand and feel for the community there that is hurting without the comments, but that niche is just as profitable for some writers as other niches. It took me two years to get back to what I had before the move, but I am finally there and I can only imagine how this system is going to work against me.

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                  theraggededgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, I don't disagree with you either. If it's not functional, it shouldn't be rolled out.
                  
                  However, the LetterPile community seems to be the one most vocal over the lack of comments. And as the team have to trial the developments somewhere, LP would be a good place to do it.

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                     Shesabutterflyposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     The vocal group makes up a small part of the whole LP community, although I will agree they are the most affected by this change.
                     
                     No niche site is a good place to run trials when it will negatively impact the authors. I have yet to even see any changes to the current system since this announcement was made 3 weeks ago.
                     
                     I know nothing about programming, but I suspect they know whether some of the important things we asked for before this launch, are possible with this current system or not. They over sold it from day one and in three weeks the only update is it is coming to more niche sites.

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                        Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        I think if they tested the same comment systen  all over the niche websites, they would identified a common fault and profer a common solution across the board.

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                        theraggededgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        Yep. In its imperfect and broken form Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

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                     eugbugposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     I suppose it's a form of beta testing. Frustrate the customers, but hopefully not too much, rather than waiting until everything works properly to deploy. Would it be unwise to put the Hubpages cards on the table and tell the readers that comments are in beta test mode?

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                        EricDockettposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        In their current state, I don't think the comments are nearly as confusing to the readers as they are to writers. To readers, it looks like a lot of other comment systems out there.
                        
                        The problem with a lot of other systems is that they are not designed for interaction between the reader and the writer. They are meant as a sounding board. When you comment on an article on Fox or CNN, you aren't expecting the author to respond to you.
                        
                        Even when writers do get involved in those comment systems, they do so in the short term. They respond for a week or so, they move on to the next thing.
                        
                        Our comment system needs to work differently.
                        
                        The most frustrating thing is how we used to have sites where it worked perfectly and now things are a mess.

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                           theraggededgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           In any case, I doubt many external readers will make it down to the comments, given the plethora of adverts that have to be navigated.

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                              EricDockettposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                              True. This makes one wonder why HP would bother reinstating comments if they aren't functional and readers never see them.
                              
                              If they are doing it just to appease the social crowd I'd suggest HP needs to get their priorities straight.

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               Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Bev, that I undestood. But what I'm saying is that the comment system will later be unfold in full as is promised.

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         EricDockettposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         That's a good idea.

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   surovi99posted 3 years ago

   Happy to know that LetterPile is next within 24 hours. This is good news for many of us. Thank you, HubPages.

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   Miebakagh57posted 3 years ago

   It's a great delight that HubPages is keeping to promises.

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   Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years ago

   Has anybody seen comments on LetterPile yet?

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      Ben716posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Not yet active.

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         Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Thank you

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   Ben716posted 3 years ago

   The forum moderator remarked that even a simple comment feature requires a lot of tech work. But, I don't know why Hubpages is working on a complicated comment system. A simple one will do.
   I do hope as I have read in the comments that it will be rolled out to LetterPile niche. Even so the complexity of using the system is proving troublesome.
   They should just roll it out to its former basic form if in its advance form it's complicating things.
   With majority of my articles on LetterPile, I really need this feature.

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    Jodahposted 3 years ago

    It is now on Letterpile. It will never be back in its previous simple format however. That was on the old HubPages format which doesn’t seem to be compatible with with the Maven system.

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       Pamela99posted 3 years agoin reply to this

       It is a bit of a dazzle to have to sign in and get a number to actually comment. You never know how soon an article will be moved to Letterpile either.

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          Jodahposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Yes exactly, Pamela. It will take some getting used to.

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       ChitrangadaSharanposted 3 years agoin reply to this

       It’s so complicated. Really disappointing, after all the wait and patience.
       I don’t think anyone will take so much trouble to login, find a code, scroll—scroll, and keep on scrolling so much that you forget, what you were reading, and so on.
       In addition, the ads are all over—left-right-top-bottom-so many in the middle. It’s virtually annoying and impossible to read, the actual article. The reader is bound to get disinterested, and leave the page.

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    Jodahposted 3 years ago

    It is all so ugly, Chitrangada. It is as though you have to dig to find the article among the ads, further reading, elsewhere on the web etc…..they say be careful what you wish for. I think we should have just settled for being able to comment on the feed. Let’s just hope they make improvements.

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       Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

       "Let's just hope they make improvement." Yes, agreed. But will they ever be an improvement? Too much mess is already around. It seems the comment system has been basdardized.

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       Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

       I guess we can still comment on these forums.

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          Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Exactly. This forum is about AA. Now, if Rupert Taylor, wade in to comment on your post that I'm leveraging on, I'll tell him about his last article I read. But the forums are not the comment system.

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             Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

             Yep Miebakagh...I agree.
             But if comment system is going to be difficult, I have another option to use.

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                Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                Brenda, so do I. And, thanks.

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    Jodahposted 3 years ago

    Comments seems to be working better now. Once you have signed in once and confirmed your email (at least as author) you don’t have to do it again. Also, if you wait a few seconds after clicking the comment button the window appears so you don’t have to scroll to find it.

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       Misbah786posted 3 years agoin reply to this

       That's great. I'm hoping they'll also work on notification settings. So that writers can see if their hubs have received any comments.
       
       The system appears to be glitchy as well, as you cannot see comments on your profile page. Even if the hub has comments, it displays zero. This has to be resolved.
       
       We appreciate your efforts and we hope to see more improvements. Best wishes, Team HP.
       
       Writers are here to support you but writers also need your support.
       
       Thank you, HubPages.

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          bravewarriorposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          +1

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          Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Serious as the issue is, hubpages is yet to react. So I give the benefit of the doubt.

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       Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

       Okay, John. I'll try that and see.

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          Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          John, I don't get it. I wait for a minute and two. Still, I don't get it. I'm on Opera. And you?

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             Jodahposted 3 years agoin reply to this

             Safari and Edge...works on both. You don't have to wait that long...just a few seconds. it seems the comment box is a little slow to load. If it doesn't appear try scrolling down.

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    Miebakagh57posted 3 years ago

    Thanks, John. That has got to wait. I'm scribing a piece. Glad you got it.

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    theraggededgeposted 3 years ago

    It's crazy when you think about it. HubPages and the network sites were just fine until they started messing with the layout and all. It worked perfectly well for years. Now we've ended up with this absolute dog's breakfast of content.
    
    The 'author's view' layout is how it should be for all. And at least I got some Amazon earnings from that incarnation.

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       bravewarriorposted 3 years agoin reply to this

       I couldn't agree with you more, Bev. The more they "fix" things, the more broken they become!

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          Pamela99posted 3 years agoin reply to this

          I agree with both of you after 12 years on this site. All the crazy ads, signing in and getting a number in order to comment is not good. Also, how do we know when our article gets mored to Letterpile or wherever when someone makes a comment?

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             Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

             Pamela, I'm wondering likewise.

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          Brenda Arledgeposted 3 years agoin reply to this

          Yes.  This seems to be so true!

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             ChitrangadaSharanposted 3 years agoin reply to this

             The whole site looks messy and spammy, with advts. all over the page.
             I am afraid, no readers from outside HubPages would care to read anything.
             While browsing the internet, I avoid visiting such pages, which have so many ads, because of their adverse affects (virus etc.)

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                Miebakagh57posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                That I agreed. It's a pity that a fine website like hubpages is now a mess and ill spoken off.                                      Critically, I've not seen a webpage like hubpages niche market. It's really a mess.

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    Miebakagh57posted 3 years ago

    In my earlier years, I had a fine taste of the system before the changes were introduced.                                           It would have been a better understanding, if these changes were an addition or integration rather than a system disruption.                                           I believe HubPages, as a company reserved or rather had the right to make these changes. But needless to say, she fail to carry all her acknowledaeable writers along.                                     Informing us of these changes has not help matter. It's a bone of contention.

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