Two Theories to explain Traffic Drops
Just did this random search on google.com.
I typed in: recipe best chicken supreme.
These are the first set of pages to show. The 3rd, 4th and 5th position all have dates, including two very old dates!
Sorry, I have no idea how to make the image bigger, but the dates are:
3rd: 3 Mar 2011
4th: 19 Nov 2001
5th: 14 Dec 2004
Urgh! I should have read on.
Thanks
I remember reading about it. But, the previous proxies didn't pop up in search engines at least that's what I thought Seems normal to me. I read that thread and it was supposed to be a proxy as I presumed. But, proxies aren't supposed to rank in Search engines
Oh, good to hear!
Mine's been sitting at 50% down since the end of May. I am hoping it will bounce back at some point, but who knows? I've done some tinkering around, but in the main I've been doing more stuff elsewhere.
Glad to hear that yours has recovered. It gives me some hope!It's too soon to call it "recovered"
! But I am certainly encouraged that it has moved back up for these few days. My main point was - and is - that I have not done anything at all to my Hubs, and yet I have seen these fluctuations.
If my traffic had not gone back up, I would be leaning towards the "freshness" issue as the cause. I have been working on some new Hubs, not yet published, and was waiting to get them online before freshening the older ones - they do need that, to be sure.
But before I had done anything, poof! There may be some other explanation for what I have seen, but I do think jellygator's suggestion is worth considering. I have frequently wondered whether Google goes through a process over time of offering first one account then another one (with similar content) to see whether one gets better response than the other. That could be one explanation for some of the slight ups and downs I have seen. But I'm intrigued by JG's idea, and I'm going to keep it in mind going forward.
- klarawieckposted 11 years ago
0 no denying social can get you real links, and enough people say they have seen rankings from "going viral" to at least have to consider the possibility, but those real links, you wont rank long without them.
and we may not guarantee #1 rankings, but we deliver enough of them to have some idea what I'm talking about
I have no doubt you and/or your company are good at what you do with the numbers you posted earlier. You don't get numbers like that being a rookie, I know, I do very similar numbers, I just do them for myself. I am not a commercial SEO, I don't do SEO for hire, only my own. I used to do it commercial, but was tired of others trying to dictate my job!
My main point was that if they ( authors on hubpages) are hit by panda, inbounds are not the solution. Links are, just not inbound.
They need to get out of panda before they worry about link building.
My, aren't we a little bit defensive.
You can ramble all you want, but I am talking from what I have seen across many sites, and I'm not referencing HP subdomains. I have seen absolutely zero difference in the results between pages with high bounce rates and those with low ones. Zero difference. I actually haven't even seen a difference between those with a longer time on page, although common sense says that might be a "quality" factor or whatever you want to call it. This isn't a matter of me believing "what I want," it's what I've seen.
A high bounce rate along with other unfavorable metrics MIGHT send out the wrong signal to the search engines, IDK. But I do know that by itself, it does not impact webpages. My top hub has spent the better part of the past few years in the #1 spot for its keyword. Occasionally it fluctuates to #2 or #3, but it always comes back fairly quickly. It's got a 94.35% bounce rate. Average time on page is over 5 minutes. I can't really do better than #1 no matter how low I get that darn bounce rate down.
Can I tell you how to change a tire on a 69 Triumph Spitfire? No. But if I found a webpage that told me how to do it, I doubt I'd keep browsing to find out how to do something else. I'd probably just get up and change the darn tire.
greetings Mr Sunforged
..have enjoyed your hubs for a long while now, nice to cross paths finally.
and new panda refresh yesterday http://searchengineland.com/official-go … 5th-125945So as long as one insults a hubber who's not well liked the "insulter" doesn't take much of a chance of getting banned? Ah, this explains a lot. So far, no one I've ever reported has been banned, at least to my knowledge.
No, I reported an "elite" for insulting me numerous times in one post. Nothing was done because they are protected, while I was "accidentally banned" for a month until they relented when I asked for an official reason for my being banned.
This is why I don't like the moderators to have anonymity. You can say what you want to about the process, but the bans are NOT handed out equally here. But hey, it's HP's game, right or wrong. They are not required to show equality to all members.
Mark is an "expert without a cause", they are the coolest type!
Google Measures Quality via Analytics (fullstop)
Google demands good quality and points to spelling and grammar etc.
But I don't believe that the dumb bot has a spell-checker or grammar checker.
All that 'read out loud' stuff is basically bulls**t.
Basically what G is sayings is that good quality will lead to good analytics.
This is an association not a 'cause and effect' relationship.
Poor quality stuff can have good analytics (time on page, bounce rate, pages per visit etc), can rank well and appear high in the SERPS.
Good quality is determined by the multiple-user response as conveyed by the analytics data (time on page etc). It the article is good users will read more of it, link to it, want to read other related pages you have written and refer it to their friends. (all measured by analytics)
The analytics for a site or sub is also very important as G uses this in a similar way to score all the articles within a sub. If the SUB analytics are good each of the articles will get a good score.
The take home message from this is that hubbers should work on improving their analytics both for the individual articles and for their subs.
The point is that there are some things that you can do to improve the analytics without blindly trying to improve the 'quality of the contents' in terms of the text. Basically this is about engaging the user for longer, providing what they want and encouraging them to go to other pages within your sub (by having an action type link above the fold etc.)
It is more about smart page design than quality of the text.
Another important aspect is to make the title and description as they appear in the SERP say
Pick Me! Pick Me!
This thread has meandered all over the place, but it's a fascinating read with so many points of view about dropping traffic (if we're still on that
Here's my thinking for what it's worth. I may have missed the odd post, so I hope I'm not repeating anything.
This is something I learned post Panda and it makes perfect sense to me, more so post Penguin. It's a trickle-down effect, especially for older articles that have aged nicely and have been linked to organically from hither and yon. If those sites linking to HP articles get de-ranked for whatever reason Google deemed necessary, something HP writers have no control over, it diminishes the value of those links to HP pages. It follows that HP articles' rankings drop along with the diminished link value. Organic backlinks are still important, but obviously from sites that are respected by the search engines.
Does that make sense? 'Tis late here.its a little more than that
also do the google properties and mashable etc below us not have similar?
it is easily explained, by us, anyway, have another search..
https://www.google.com/search?q=advance … amp;num=10not many people search compared to the broad terms, however we are only targeting the "advanced" niche. the main point to note is that we are above all the best WP SEOs in the world
and it is those specific advanced WP SEO techniques that are primarily responsible for a 4 year ranking above Google (lots of them) for their own terms.
If I had just published that post and forgotten about it, it wouldnt be there.
thats all I was getting at.
I have drawn an info-graphic explaining how my SEO works and the result on my traffic...
SEO AFTER THE TWO P's
Same here
- Arlene V. Pomaposted 11 years ago0
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