Vote: no for same sex marriage

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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
What is with copying and pasting sex jokes?? And you are not "right" so stop saying you are. And the gay community hasn't and never will affect me negatively. In fact, my gay friends and colleagues have had a positive effect on my life. I'm sorry that you cannot see how negative and wrong you are. In a way, I pity you.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  same here; so, sorry to hear that from someone claim to be in science major.
  but you are not the only in science major, and many of them agree with my view, and i am sure, you should know about that; and even you by yourself you did agree with my main points in this forum.
  and look back in this forum
  at all i do not need approve; that, i am right; because, by science,history, facts, nature and religion, i am.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
I did not agree with your main points in this forum. You take my words and move them around in your head and try to make it seem like I do.

Your main points have been:
1) Same-sex marriage is wrong and should not be made legal. I don't agree with this
2) Being gay is unsafe. I don't agree with this
3) Knowing an HIV infected person will put you at risk for being infected. I don't agree with this
4) HIV is a punishment for gay people. I don't agree with this
5) Being gay is a choice I don't agree with this.
6) People are harmed by those who are gay I don't agree with this

You have never answered ANY of my questions. You're support is extremely weak, opinionated, homophobic, and ridiculous. A FEW people in the forum have stated they agree with you against same sex marriage. However NO ONE has agreed with you on your beliefs regarding homosexuality, HIV, and your homophobic comments.

Face it. You are alone in this battle. Completely alone. Please people go ahead... step up and show yourselves if you agree with what Mohamad is saying. We'll see how many people step up.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
It makes me sad that you are/were a science major and know nothing about one of the most studied viruses. Whatever school you went to obviously failed you. I would look into going back to school.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  like you could read my mind; you need to read with better understanding about the point from all sides, and not your side only...
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
That's hypocritical for you to say don't you think? And what other side are you looking from?
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Your comments about HIV clearly tell me that you know nothing. I don't have to "read your mind"
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  this is what science say:
  
  If you have a sexually transmitted disease, you may be at higher risk for getting infected with HIV during sex with an HIV-infected partner.
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gamergirlposted 16 years ago
Mohammed-

You haven't answered 2/3rds of the questions you've been asked.

You ignore every point that's made in favor of your own twisted and ignorant thinking.

You appear to have only the basest grasp of the English language, and have no idea what it is to be tolerant.

You are the reason this thread of your hate and bullsh*t have gone on for nearly 28 pages so far.

You are continuing a cycle of HATE. I hope you're proud of yourself.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  only love i have for all; i want all of you safe, i want all of you know what could be happened if we are going to wrong direction.
  gays life and same sex marriage lead us to another Dead sea; and i think every body may be know about dead sea from school or here if you read this forum.
  my love for all as God state in bible"love your fellow man";
  really i love all of you..
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
And what does that have to do with being gay? NOTHING
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
You still know nothing about the actual disease. What is the window period? What do they test for? What is a T-cell? When does HIV become AIDS? What does HIV and AIDS stand for? What is an opportunistic infection?

You can look all of this up. But you didn't know any of it before. Because you know nothing about the disease. Please do not talk about something you clearly know nothing about. Google-ing HIV and copying and pasting doesn't make you an expert. But at least you'll know more than you did before.
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mohamedhmmposted 16 years ago
this is for who believe in science only:
read about HIV/AIDS and Men Who Have Sex with Men (MSM):

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/msm/index.htm
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Uh everyone is aware of that information. That is nothing new. Proves nothing on your behalf. I have no idea why you just posted that. There is obviously a correlation in HIV and the gay male population. That doesn't prove ANY of your points. You're seriously getting so annoying because you refuse to answer any questions. It must suck to be someone with tunnel vision. You must lead a rather boring life.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  make sure to test yourself for HIV, if you have relationship with gays infected with HIV; because there are many issues in science about HIV/AIDS under search; and also try to use protective methods; may be you could be safe; but i doubt.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
No all gay people have HIV, do you know that? And we weren't talking about having sex with someone who is HIV positive. You and I were discussing KNOWING someone who is HIV positive. You said KNOWING someone who is HIV positive is putting yourself at risk for contracting HIV. And that is WRONG!
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gamergirlposted 16 years ago
mohamed-

You've now got over 200 posts, 90% of them hateful and ignorant.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
I don't mind going back and forth with him. I know he is wrong. I know I probably won't change his mind. But with each comment of mine he responds to, I feel there is a little bit of doubt, a little bit less self confidence... well I guess I can only hope. It is a bit frustrating that a hundred people can tell you you're wrong, and have all of the information in the world to back it up and yet someone still won't listen. At least I know I'm right, and I'm a good person who doesn't pollute the world with hate.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
What if I said I was a lesbian? Would you love me then?
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  remember; i am not gay.
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  Pestposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  HUH??? Bwahahahhahahahaah! I get it! You are a comedian. Wow. I was so fooled.
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  blondepoetposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Oh my what is going on here
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  Colebabieposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Haha. Mohamed says he loves everyone. But he really doesn't. Just himself.
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earnestshubposted 16 years ago
mohamedhmm your beliefs are not shared by many people because what you write is hateful and ill-informed. Why not accept that your opinion of people's sexuality is not necessarily right. Or are you too afraid of your own interpretation of a vicious god to change your view?
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Oh are you flippin' kidding me? You know what I meant Mohamad. If I was a lesbian would you love me, love being in the sense that you used it previously, as in "love your fellow man" or whatever in the heck that quote was??
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  you need to understand bible, and what man mean in bible or any holy book (Torah, bible, Koran)
  man means here human kind; man and woman..
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Ok well what if I don't care about what the bible says? I asked before that you not bring up religion. Obviously it is what hinders you from fully understanding this subject and what we have been discussing. Every time you revert back to religion I feel as if I have proved you wrong. Because that is all you have to fall back on.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  i believe to have healthy discussion; you should look to the topic from all sides and multiple areas and issues of concern; because, healthy discussion like healthy dish..
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
And since when does "man" mean woman?
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mayhmongposted 16 years ago
I got three words for ya!

JERRY! JERRY! JERRY!
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Oh I would win. No questions asked.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Umm so look at it from a gay person's perspective. Try that one. Imagine you have something about yourself that certain people hate. And you are denied the right that everyone else in America has because of it.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  more science for you:
  
  Scientology does consider homosexual practices to be the expression of a distorted sexuality..
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Do you notice no one is jumping in to defend you? Doesn't that seem strange to you?
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mayhmongposted 16 years ago
Maybe I should create you two a chatroom so you can fire it out at each other. C'mon you two are hogging up too much space on hubtivity over what?
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  because i am caring about all of you.
  i am caring about us.
  and because
  my love for my brothers and sisters.
  my love for our kids and grand kids.
  my love for next generations
  and because
  i fear God
  and i do not want us like what did happen to lot town-gays-; where is the dead sea now...
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  countrywomenposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  I am just about to go to bed and logged in to find this thread going in circles. Except for Sufidreamer nobody else has been able to relate to Mr.Mohamed. Like me and others even colebabie is trying to get her point across but I guess it is almost pointless now. I guess after a certain point we need to realize that there is nothing much that can be achieved in a discussion.
  I hope this is my final post in this thread. Good bye folks.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  
  as i said if you are gay; no one will win.
  and there is no any achievement; if we couldn't see the light over our heads...
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  Joke before going to bed:
  
  A lawyer and a blonde are sitting next to each other on a long flight from LA to NY.The lawyer leans over to her and asks if she would like to play a fun game. The blonde just wants to take a nap, so she politely declines and rolls over to the window to catch a few winks. The lawyer persists and explains that the game is really easy and a lot of fun. He explains" I ask you a question, and if you don't know the answer, you pay me $5, and vice-versa." Again, she politely declines and tries to get some sleep. The lawyer, now somewhat agitated, says, "Okay, if you don't know the answer you pay me $5, and if I don't know the answer, I will pay you $500!." Figuring that since she is a blonde that he will easily win the match. This catches the blonde's attention and, figuring that there will be no end to this torment unless she plays, agrees to the game. The lawyer asks the first question. "What's the distance from the earth to the moon?" The blonde doesn't say a word, reaches in to her purse, pulls out a five dollar bill and hands it to the lawyer. Now, it's the blonde's turn. She asks the lawyer: "What goes up a hill with three legs, and comes down with four?" The lawyer looks at her with a puzzled look. He takes out his laptop computer and searches all his references.He taps into the Airphone with his modem and searches the Net and the Library of Congress. Frustrated, he sends E-mails to all his coworkers and friends he knows. All to no avail. Afterover an hour, he wakes the blonde and hands her $500. The blonde politely takes the $500 and turns away to get back to sleep. The lawyer, who is more than a little miffed, wakes the blonde and asks, "Well, so what IS the answer!?" Without a word, the blonde reaches into her purse, hands the lawyer $5, and goes back to sleep....
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mayhmongposted 16 years ago
Huh?

You talking to the wrong protestor!?
I have no idea whatcha talking about?! LOL
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Oh yeah. I'm more than done. That was my last try.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
I don't think the term homophobic is overused at all. Homophobia is the fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality, homosexuals, or individuals perceived as homosexual. I've met lots of people who fit this description perfectly. Referring to the original poster in this forum as homophobic is a proper label.

Two women together sexually is a turn on for a lot of men. The market for girl on girl pornography would be proof of that. Hence why a lot of men fantasize about threesomes. Of course I'm not referring to all men. I wouldn't say that.

Some women are turned on by two men together sexually. However I understand two women together as being more of a turn on. There are lots of reasons why.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  what do you think about that; i do not hear from you; it's pure science:
  Scientology does consider homosexual practices to be the expression of a distorted sexuality..
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  earnestshubposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Scientology also believes that their founder is alive and been visited by space beings and a lot of other un-scientific mumbo jumbo and has no connection to science. Scientology is anything but science.If you do not know the difference between the two I am out of here. You are even less aware than I thought you were.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  if even science you do not agree with; so you follow your mind without thinking...
  no religion, no science if doesn't agree with you ...
  but no one could deny the facts
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  may be the both are lesbian; so no wonder...
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  earnestshubposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  You are indeed a piece of work, I'm over it.
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  Make Moneyposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Who you are describing with your pornography are perverts my dear.
  
  Try teaching some morality. It may surprise you.
  
  But then what can you expect when a youngin tries teaching youngins.
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  earnestshubposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  This youngn has ripped you a new a-hole! and your ageist attitude is showing.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  this is out of rules; please just express your view; if you got one.
  only express yourself with respect without any personal, or racial attack.
  just express your opinion with the forum topic.
  i hope this clear
  
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Sorry for not replying. Scientology is not science based. I can't comment on something with no proof.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  
  so, i should create new science; just for gays lovers
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mohamedhmmposted 16 years ago
at all religion and science like the coin sides, they lead to each others...
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Forget this. I'm going over to my gay best friend's house to watch some gay porn.
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earnestshubposted 16 years ago
Do you not know that scientology is a religion?
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  Sir, it's not just religion; it has its science background; then became as religion; but it has some good points that i agree with it; like gays relationship...
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  earnestshubposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Sir you obviously cannot read.Scientology is based on science fiction and has nothing to do with science. It's founder Ron Hubbard was a third rate science fiction writer who turned his ridiculous ideas in to a religion.
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mohamedhmmposted 16 years ago
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someone understood the point; and thank you.
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  Colebabieposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  There are 1138 federal benefits to marriage that gay couples are denied. There are plenty of married heterosexual couples that cannot conceive children, or choose not to conceive children. What of them? Just because you can't conceive a child you should not be able to be married? Are you serious with that logic? You say that you are not ignorant of the needs of people and their rights, but denying someone the same rights that everyone else has is being just that. And saying that being raised in a gay household is unhealthy is wrong as well.
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  Make Moneyposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  And there within lies the entire problem when it comes down to the bottom line, the almighty dollar.
  
  Marriage was originally meant to be a life time vow between a man and a woman, performed by a prelate of their perspective religion. Part of the contract is to conceive children if possible. It is a contract between the couple and God.
  
  Not a money contract.
  
  Again for this reason I believe governments should get out of the practice of issuing marriage certificates.
  
  Children being raised in a gay household is unhealthy.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  AND THE GOVERNMENT should respect the human rights for those kids to live in natural family; and i feel strong about this point.
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  earnestshubposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  And what may I ask do you consider a natural family? No one has denied the rights of any family except same sex couples and this must be addressed now. It is wrong to put your religious beliefs ahead of human rights.Colebabie has given you enough evidence to sink a ship, but you cling to being homophobic.
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  Make Moneyposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  A natural family is a man and a woman that may possibly conceive kids. Religious or not it should be obvious after a few millenniums this way. Again homophobia is an over used outdated term that does not apply in most cases.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Now you are calling things "natural." How very confusing.
  
  I take it you have now converted to the scientific, evolutionary, rationalist viewpoint?
  
  Good to hear. Welcome. You can stop bleating on about morality now and I am sure it will not take you long to figure out that the "natural" scheme of things allows for all sorts of evolutionary processes - some of which dictate that homosexuality as a genetic device will die out of it's own accord - seeing as there is no passing on of genes.
  
  Simple really. Now you can keep your opinions on what others do to yourself.
  
  You need to start eating more pasta if you want to get into our heaven though.
  
  And we do not hold it against you if you find men attractive. We do rather object to t6he catholic preference for underage boys - so you will have to leave that one behind. Sorry.
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  calebdposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Three words you might want to think about: natural, obvious and homophobia. They don't mean what you think they mean.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  
  I wish to let us know the real meaning of these words:
  natural, obvious, and homophobia?
  you need to explain your position in same sex, and gays marriage; and why do you agree or disagree?
  
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  sunstreeksposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Why promote this discussion on Twitter over and over? From a bystanders point of view, it doesn't reflect kindly.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  it's just updated
  but what do you think about this issue; any opinion?
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  sunstreeksposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  That's not an answer that is a response.
  
  Which issue to give response of my opinion?? The one where you are overly eager to promote and try to moderate this thread?
  
  or my opinion that if someone desires to marry another person of the same sex then let em and give them legal rights the same as everyone else. If they want to have children, let them.
  
  The reason children in same-sex marriages sometimes have a difficult time is not usually because of the parenting or home life but because of the taunting and ridicule outside of the home from the intolerant.
  
  I am not sure I understand why this is of such importance to you. How is this affecting your life? My opinion is that people should spend more time trying to make sure their own family is happy and content with their own lifestyle, then showing concern for the lifestyle of others unless it is proven to be harmful or hurtful.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  we are with human rights for every body; equal human rights within every reasonable law and our natural life system.; so, do you think same sex as marriage could follow any one of those laws of our life as natural marriage?
  second: how same sex could get kids; because it's impossible to happen by any natural methods?
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earnestshubposted 16 years ago
Read your own link on Scientology mohamedhmm before i laugh myself off this chair!Then come back and apologize for your mistake.
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gamergirlposted 16 years ago
Mohamed-

Please follow this link:

http://www.rosettastone.com/personal/la … h-american

You need help understanding the language you're attempting to speak in here before you can continue to feebly attempt to debate a very volatile social issue like this one.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  thank you; but, i do not think this link will solve gays problem; they need more than that...
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  just i pray for them, that God guide them to his path; but his door open for all whatever sins you have, God will forgive you if you will come back and ask Him the forgiveness; but, do not wait until the door would be closed; then, you are lost.
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  earnestshubposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Again you assume there is a god who agrees with you. What about all the dozens of questions you have not answered? I think you may be mistaking what you believe for the truth deliberately to support your invisible homophobic god
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  all questions are answered in this forum; but, people like you are jumping without reading what's already there...
  at all talking about god with disbelievers, they are not willing to understand; just wasting time, you need to read about god in his books by your heart first...
  and you are just small example that we have one GOD.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
That is the rudest thing I have ever heard. Try learning about human sexuality. Which is perfectly healthy by the way. Just because someone watches porn doesn't make them a pervert. Please don't insult my age or put my morals into question. You don't know me.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
And please don't call me "dear" that term is reserved for those out of kindness and affection, and I don't feel either towards you. I'm not a child.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
I don't believe I was speaking to you. Nor to I plan to ever again. Thanks!
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beachchick2411posted 16 years ago
why does people of the same sex being married hurt you in any way theres no way of stopping them form being togther your going to see them in your town holding hands and kissing and doing all the things regular couples do togther so dening them the right to have a peice of paper to show the world and goverment they are togther is just wrong if same sex were allowed to get married you wouldnt really even be able to tell the difference in my opion your just being arrogant and i vote yes
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earnestshubposted 16 years ago
What mohamedhmm is proposing is to interfere in everyones life and ram his narrow minded homophobic beliefs down our throats!
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  i disagree; the only narrow minded homophobic, every person do not look farther than under his legs.
  i am here to open eyes like you and others for the consequences for such act-gay-; if someone try to kill himself, and may be kill others too ; you would watch him until killing himself or you take positive action?
  i am just to help; many gays do not know the harm could be happened to them and others soon or later; so, to be gay ; it's not under any human rights; because, this is a choice could lead to many harmful consequences on the gays and others -heterosexual-; which we could avoid that if they keep this act to be gay just behind the doors and not spread it around and demand legal rights for act; that, in the first spot illegal act.
  so, the government shouldn't give any permission for this act-gays marriage-; but, they have their rights as others within regular rights, normal rights, natural rights, and public rights; because in the end we are in one boat, we could be safe together or sink together.
  Now, you should know who the narrow minded?
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caderade2posted 16 years ago
Voting yes on same sex marriage will just open the gates for more crazy laws to be passed. 100 years ago the topic of legalizing same sex marriage would have been as ludicrous as voting for animal-human marriages. Just think what laws will be passed 100 years from now if we allow that to happen.
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  Maddie Ruudposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  100 years ago, women and people of color having equal rights was also seen as ludicrous. We should all know better now.
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  Sufidreamerposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Sadly, some people have not yet reached the 20th Century, let alone the 21st.
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  caderade2posted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Because someone stands for what they believe they haven't "reached the 20th century"?
  I better throw away all my beliefs and values so I can fit in with people in the 21st century.
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gamergirlposted 16 years ago
Voting yes on same sex marriage would open the door to true equality for all people. Who knew there'd still be some so provincial as to not desire equality for all mankind?
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DennisBarkerposted 16 years ago
Ok,Here we go, I'm assuming this discussion is being prompted by recent legal changes in california which I'm not qualified to comment upon but i am qualified to comment on the general is homosexuality an illness issue.

There was a time until about 50 years ago when homosexuality was considered a mentalillness by much of the medical profession, the population generally and a large proportion of religious maniacs who should be ashamed of themselves for whipping up hatred and fear amongst the general population.

homosexuals were routinely given ellectroshock treatments and other potential "cures2. fortunately a large proportion of the planet has moved on, and those who havn't are dying to be replaced by others who have moved on.

I've been homosexual since I was about twelve years old, its a genuine and natural expression of my sexuality. During the last thirty years or so I've met many genuine, honest and perfectly sane homosexuals, some in relationships and others not.

I've also met several who could be considered notallthere or possibly mentally ill. I doubt that the proportions of mental illness are different amongst straight and homosexual populations and I expect that there won't be any need to have this kind of discussion by the time I've been homosexual for eighty years or so and I'm about to leave this mortal coil.

Life is way to short to spend it obsessed with other peoples sex lives. Just get on with enjoying your own and let everybody work out their own sexual orientation as they go along.
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  countrywomenposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  It's about time someone really clarified to the OP that homosexual tendencies may persist right from BIRTH and not a conscious CHOICE as is perceived by few folks. Why some folks get worked up about others private lives beats me. Everyone should have equal rights under the law. Let us learn to live and let live.
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  Everyday Miraclesposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  HERE HERE!
  
  And now I'm backing out of this conversation since I haven't read anything but stopped in and read the last page. Very well said, Dennis! And countrywomen too!
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Interracial marriage wasn't legalized until 1967! Saying legalizing gay marriage will bring about CrAzY laws is ridiculous. 43 years ago my boyfriend and I wouldn't have been able to get married. Hopefully in the very near future, a gay couple will be thinking "I can't believe it took this long for something to be done!" Because that's exactly what's happening. Taking too long to bring about change that obviously should happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC4B4LknF90

Just watch this PSA. It is supposed to be for anti-same sex marriage. But see just how ridiculous it sounds when you replace a few words.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  there is too far distance between interracial marriage and gays marriage;because, one of them make sense, and another is nonsense issue; one is natural, another is unnatural; one is qualifying for God blessing, another is no any blessing at all; one is healthy, another is sickness means AIDS, HIV, and transmitted diseases; one is just racial issue, another is complex issue; one leads us to be safe, another is harmful threats our life here as human living together in one land; one leads us to paradise, another leads us to Hell; one is religious right, another is not; one is likable, another dis likable; one means real love, kids,and family, another is just for irregular sex and no kids or real family; one leads to better life, another leads to distorted life; one is supported by science, and God(Torah, bible, and Koran), another is not supported by any real science, and God; one is crucial role for life, another is not and shouldn't be at all if we have a little of mind; but, gays is mind illusion.
  
  So; gays,and same sex marriage is not a same; just think about it farther than looking under our legs.
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  earnestshubposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Yet another homophobic diatribe from the ignorant by choice.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  Don't throw stones if your house from glass!
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  earnestshubposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry thick one, I am not homophobic so your comment makes no sense.
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Colebabieposted 16 years ago
Your first reason is, "because, one of them make sense, and another is nonsense issue" Really? I would expect a better argument.
The FOUR on religion... throw 'em out... you know why.
Saying that homosexuality is unnatural is wrong. For many it is their nature.
Saying being heterosexual is healthy while homosexual is not is wrong. We've already discussed this.
Race can also be seen as a "complex issue."
Saying a heterosexual life style leads us to be safe is ridiculous. There are many problems in heterosexual relationships.
Interracial marriage didn't used to be "likeable." So saying gay marriage is "unlikeable" is null and void.
Gay couples can have real families... so wrong again! And your definition of "family" is completely wrong.
The word "distorted" is an opinion. Obviously yours. So it holds no water.
Being gay is "crucial" for those who are to lead their lives happily and honestly.

I'm not sure what you mean by "just think about it farther than looking under our legs. " Isn't that what you should be doing? Ignoring the gender of those wishing to get married.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  to be a gay is a choice; and this is approved by science:
  
  read this:
  
  http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/vi … mp;cat=1_1
  
  so, by science you are a man or a woman not a gay; and gays shouldn't take their issue as political issue and trying to propose something is just disorder issue.
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  Maddie Ruudposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  All the experts and research referenced in that article actually say that being gay is NOT a choice.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  sorry, but i think you need to read better with open minded before your eyes.
  
  as you could understand well from the article that gays could go to the therapy; so, it's just therapy problem, and there is no any physical problems about gays; because it's just mental illusion and may be sexual phobia from hetero sex.
  
  there is no any real ground for any one to be gays... just think about it; it's non- sense to be gay, it's distorted behavior; and unmorality for us to accept this action; because we have responsibility towards ourselves, our kids, our family, and our community; we are the hand of God in this earth.
  
  The mind say no for gays, the Science say no for gays, and God say No to be gay-but his door still open for us to come back to him-; only devils and their followers say yes; but God promise them that they are the greatest loser...
  
  So when we open our mind, heart for God.
  
  we are in this life for a short mission as a test for us to the real life and long, long life forever; we need to do better than we do now; so, all of us could be happy; here and hereafter.
  
  I am just brother worry about you; and it's your choice in the end; and you carry it; and no one would carry your sins; just you.
  
  And to be gay is a big, big sin in any holly book;but, the door of God is open now in this life for forgiveness; but just here in this life.
  
  after we die we will face God by all of these; good is good for us; and bad is bad for us.
  
  I ask God to guide me and all of you to the right path and right choice for happiness here and after...
  I love you All
  
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  darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Something you ain't.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  thx;
  you approved to us: to be gay is a dark-side; and you are right in that...
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  Uninvited Writerposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  No, to be a bigot is the dark-side...
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  i understand your feeling; but it's not just about sex; it's about you and us; because i knew that gays have addiction for same sex; but, it's not impossible to quit and be straight again; many gays did that and they became straight and more happy than before; and so you are; just try...
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  Everyday Miraclesposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  Where are you getting this from? Being gay has nothing at all to do with sexual addiction. I've heard so many different things about "why" people are gay but that one is completely new to me!
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  darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  It's one thing to not be able to read, it's entirely another to put words in a persons mouth.
  
  First step is you go see an optometrist. Get your eyes checked. You may need prescription glasses. That'll help with the misreading and subsequent misquoting.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  i think it's clear; you are darkside- i think i read this right-? is this right?
  
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  darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  So you're saying I'm gay?
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  no, but you are with the darkside...
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  darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  And you are with the 'hmm' side.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  I am with the own good side; and this is the bright side, and the way for health, innere happiness, social happiness and better life here and hereafter...
  it's a common sense for our own good.
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  Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  allow me sirio
  
  why did you made that a big deal?
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  Eng.Mposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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Leta Sposted 16 years ago
Just checking in: Auuuuaaaaaagh!

OK, gotta go now.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  I agree
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gamergirlposted 16 years ago
sciencecentral.com is not a site backed by, endorsed by or compiled by the scientific community.

Additionally, the sexual identity of people is not a political issue in and of itself, but a social issue. Discrimination and homophobia are also social issues.

Gay people are not second class citizens, the choice to be homosexual is not the product of some kind of mental illness, but treating another person whose only deviance from "the norm" is to pursue a romantic partner born of the same gender as themselves as if they are something unnatural or disgusting is just flat out wrong.

I know you won't understand what I've said fully since your grasp on English is flawed, mohamedhmm, but I hope that someday you learn the error of your ways and can stand up for your belief that homosexuality is sinful without demeaning or belittling people just because they are different.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  thanks; but Gays not second class either; because they shouldn't be gays at all; they are just sexual guys seeking sex for sex without any roles or values.
  so, gays anti- God; and if we do not help them to be straight; they will be greatest losers, and they will face the Hell in Hereafter; so, i want all of you to be safe and having blessing from God here, and hereafter.
  there are no holly books or logical science could agree with gays direction as marriage or sexual relationship; It's sinful pleasure doesn't last long.
  Just try to have wisdom from what did happen for gays before; where the dead sea now...
  
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pretty girl 56posted 16 years ago
Marriage has always been between a man and a woman not between the same sex. Letting them marry will not work. marriage will not make their life any better than everyone else. Voting no is a victory. If others in government allow more of these marriages to continue we are only admitting to defeat.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  What kind of defeat is it for you? Women used to be classified as property in marriage, do you believe that too? Marriage is not a static thing, it has changed many times.
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Everyday Miraclesposted 16 years ago
Call me selfish. I don't give a damn.

Gay marriage doesn't affect me. I will therefore not stand in the way of this legislation being passed, regardless of whatever personal views I might hold. I don't think that homosexuality leads to the decay of a society, either.
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mohamedhmmposted 16 years ago
gays; no-one answer these yet:
do you think same sex as marriage could follow any one of those laws of our life as natural marriage?
second: how by same sex could get kids without natural marriage; because it's impossible to happen by any natural methods?
no answer; so, to be gay it's not the answer...
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Uninvited Writerposted 16 years ago
See, I don't believe the whole point of marriage should be to have children. Many straight people cannot have children naturally and turn to science.

And, not that it really matters, but I am not gay. You seem to think that only gay people will defend gay people.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  so what's the purpose of such this marriage?!
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Uninvited Writerposted 16 years ago
So, are you saying that people who can't have children should not marry?
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  darksideposted 16 years agoin reply to this
  You shouldn't ask him if he's saying that, you should tell him he's saying that.
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  mohamedhmmposted 16 years agoin reply to this
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  Don't mix up the issues..
  Marriage between a Man and a woman; to have kids, it's by god willing and it's mentioned at holly books; it's by God hand.
  but to be a gay; it's Anti-God; and no willing in it, and no hope; it's just hopeless sexual relationship.
  So; no sex or marriage between same sex,,,
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