What are the Great Things President Joe Biden Has Done While President
Bloomberg came out with a series of Battleground Polls this morning so I thought I would report. Overall, it doesn't appear that the debate debacle has hurt Biden much at all. (Plus signs are in Biden's favor, negative signs means Trump is ahead)
The thing about the Bloomberg polls is that while the sample size is small, they make up for it by having a lot of polls (which effectively increases the sample size). The only other poll with enough data points to make it worthwhile is the Hill/Emerson
Arizona: Currently -4.5. There appears to be a slight upward trend in Biden's results while Trump appears to have no trend.
Georgia: Currently -5.0. There appears to be a noticeable upward trend in Biden's results while Trump appears to have a slight downward trend.
Michigan: Currently -1.5. There appears to be a clear upward trend in Biden's results while Trump appears to have a clear downward trend.
North Carolina: Currently -5.5. There appears to be a slight upward trend in Biden's results while Trump appears to have no trend. That said, the last result of 46% was more than three standard deviations below his average of 49.6%. That bears watching.
Nevada/b]: Currently -4.5. There appears to be no discernable trend in Biden's results while Trump appears to have no trend either.
[b]Pennsylvania: Currently -.9. There appears to be no discernable trend in Biden's results while Trump appears to have a slight upward trend. The last Bloomberg result was terrible for Biden at -7.0
[b]Wisconsin/b]: Currently -1.4. There appears to be a clear upward trend in Biden's results while Trump appears to have a slight downward trend.I just noticed that on the Trump's Michigan result of 43%, that is more than 3 standard deviations away from its average of 45.7% While the latest result is only 2.7 points away from the average, the data points which make up the average were very close to each other with little deviation between them.
Bottom line, the 43% result for Trump was a significant drop from his previous Bloomberg results.
Today's jaw dropping, eye opening, fact of Biden's term:
Grocery Prices TRIPLE In 2 Years Under Biden, American Economy Is COLLAPSING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5_0g5GXYxMResearch demonstrates, the monthly grocery bill for a family of four grew by 50 percent between January 2020 and January 2024, and the largest grocery chains saw their revenue rise as much as 36 percent during that same period.
So who's to blame?
Studies have found that corporate profits account for more than 50 percent of our current inflation.
Decades of failure to enforce antitrust laws and put consumers over corporations have enabled today’s crisis. But it's easier to blame a person. So what exactly has Biden done to cause food inflation that continues? And what specifically is the Trump plan to address food inflation?
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/19/11771809 … -inflationWages QUADRUPLE in 2 Years Under Biden, American Economy is VIBRANT! I am lying about the wages, of course, and so are you about grocery prices and the economy. Why do you (and Trump) do that???
Here is the TRUTH, the FACTS!
Avg annual increase in food prices:
2022: 9.9%
2023: 5.8%
2024 so far: 2.2%
When you do the arithmetic properly you get 18.8% growth (8% annual) and NOT the 300% you claim. Why do you spout such ridiculousness?
In case you are wondering, that is 1.099 * 1.058 * 1.022 - 1.
In that same time period, wages have grown 5.5% in 2022, 4.4% in 2023, and 4.7% so far in 2024.
That is a 15.3% increase in Wages in the same time period.
When you subtract the Food Price increase of 18.8% from the Wage increase of 15.3%, you are left with a 3.5% REAL increase in food prices. That is a far cry from your hyperbolic and totally misleading claim of a 300% increase.
This is why one must take any pronouncement you make with a box of salt, don't you think?
https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-econo … th-in-2023
https://www.conference-board.org/press/ … dgets-2023
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/i … ed-states/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/135 … 20percent.The video shows a guy on TikTok showing his grocery bill from 2 years ago, and if he hits the re-order button the SAME items now cost 4 times as much.
Go ahead and try to tell him that he is delusional, that the statistics prove he is a liar.
I have another one, I had to dig up some information for my new Home Insurance the other day.
In 2021 I paid $986 dollars for home insurance, now I will be paying roughly $3,500 dollars for essentially the same policy.
This on a house that was already in excellent condition, had a new roof, new HVAC, etc. all prior to our moving into it in 2020.
It doesn't matter what the statistics you pull up are saying... everything costs DOUBLE or more than what it did four+ years ago.
You can't hide that from the people who feel it the most.And I can show you a video of Big Foot, are you going to say that definitively proves Big Foot exists? I can do the same with Martians.
Your single data point means nothing in the larger scheme of things. Only the kinds of numbers I present do.
Prove that EVERY SINGLE THING costs double from your changed timeline. It used to be 2 years, now it is 4 years? Why?
Try pulling up some gas prices and tell me with a straight face those have doubled, even in nominal dollar terms (not adjusted for inflation).As to your insurance rates, which are not tied to inflation. They are tied to climate change and in insurance commission that is in the pockets of the insurance companies. You know that as well as I do, so try to stop being deceptive.
How about egg prices? Your "everything" claim includes those doesn't it? Well the price of eggs was $2.08 in 2022$. Today, a dozen eggs are $2.47 in 2022$. Now in your reality, that may be "Doubled", but in the real world, my world, In fact, in 2022$ a dozen eggs today are CHEAPER than they were from 1980 - 1989, 2005 - 2013, 2015, and 2022 - 2023.
So, doesn't that destroy your claims?
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/i … inflation/
Ken trying to use Florida insurance, where climate change has led insurance companies to exit the state and premiums to skyrocket, as some proof of inflation, is the latest distortion to try and pin some blame on Biden from partisans in denial of actual reality.
He is not a convicted felon. That is good enough for me.
"Failed to jail Trump" No. The corrupt Supreme Court is doing that. But, hey, that's what the GOP stole three seats for!And it will continue. The majority of American voters has never chosen Trump. Why would they now?
Perhaps because of the enormous damage the Democrats have inflicted on the country? You know,
Open borders, and the requirement to support hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens.
Giving up the stage in world affairs, alienating much of the world.
Giving crime free rein.
Spending us into oblivion, for little to nothing in return.
The list is nearly endless; nearly anyone honest with themselves will find multiple reasons to remove that travesty of a President from office.Here is the Truth everybody:
Open Borders - Here is the Truth everybody - they aren't any more open than they were under Trump
Trump pissed of the world and vocally withdrew us from a leadership position as he said he would.
Crime is down under Biden.
Trump increased the debt more than Biden did
The list of the bad things Republicans and Trump did to America is nearly endless.
I would hope so, or at the very least, they would report that his numbers were below 50% regardless of what they are.
They have spent a decade denigrating this guy:
3 months ago:
‘He looks like a puppet to Putin’: Panel discusses Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvccoSqV8NE
9 years ago:
You're a Putin puppet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVWRetR4jg
This would be an excellent example of “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”, the law of propaganda often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels.
Among psychologists something like this known as the "illusion of truth".
"In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility," Hitler wrote in "Mein Kampf," back in 1925.
"It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously," Hitler explained. "Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation."
These are the very tactics that have been used for almost a decade now.
No one would possibly believe charges based on falsehoods and fabrication would be brought against Trump regarding his Russian Collusion... our MSM... our FBI... has told us repeatedly and continuously that Trump is a traitor, a Putin puppet, the biggest threat to Democracy the world has ever known.
So yeah, some people are going to buy into that repeated messaging.
They have a real problem, if after a decade of character assassinating Trump (and anyone associated with him), he still has the support of more than 50% of the country.
And you can bet, that if he does, they would never allow that information to reach the light of day.Trump denigrates himself through his many bad acts. The media doesn't hide that fact and simply reports on it.
He DOES look like a Puppet to Putin - "At a news conference after the summit, President Trump was asked if he believed his own intelligence agencies or the Russian president when it came to the allegations of meddling in the elections.
"President Putin says it's not Russia. I don't see any reason why it would be," he replied."
In my opinion, that was a treasonous statement by Trump.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44852812
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/28/politics … index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … -interview
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/2 … n-00010923
Trump kept a copy of Mein Kompf on his nightstand and appears to be a disciple of Hitler and Goebbels and has improved on Goebbels message.
By any measure, Trump is the gravest threat to democracy in our time. He has already convinced 40% if Americans that the Justice and Electoral systems are rigged when he is the one actually doing the rigging.This would be an excellent example of “Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”...
This is perhaps at the heart of the political discussions in the US for over a decade now.
Long before Trump started his political campaign thousands of conspiracy theories were repeated over and over again. Like the 9-11 inside job conspiracy and the pedophile pizza gate theory. (and of course the Jews rule the world theory with a deep state kind of thing...)
The information landscape is completely warped in the US.
The stop the steal lie that even started before the election results were in.
and the UFO´s hearings in congress are the symptoms of the same information confusion.
It shows to me that over the years, the information given through news media and private pod casters like Joe Rogan have made the American public completely mad. As lies were broadcasted day in day out by what people believed to be respectable broadcast companies.
A lot of people have podcasts and YouTube and Tiktok channels with millions of followers, but are not interested in telling the truth, but only in telling things that have more clicks and sells best.
And people found out that hatred and controversial points of view sell best. So the likes like Joe Rogan don´t care about the truth but only about making controversial claims. (or give airtime to people with lunatic ideas)
This environment of lies and conspiracies is literally deadly. (in the case of Covid, and the mob attack on the Capitol for example. (and many more that are less news worthy)
I don't know how this landscape can change, but it has to change. Perhaps to make the social media companies accountable for the content they are spreading, like a publisher is accountable for the books of its authors.
It is a huge problem (also in Europe)
And deep fake with highly advanced AI imitations are around the corner...
Still of course freedom of speech is important and should be defended..Yes you can go back further than Trump and recent events.
9-11 has always had its issues, such as how three buildings fell perfectly in on their footprints, something that only can occur through precision demolition... three buildings.
We could go back to the Kennedy Assassination(s)... MLK and X as well.
To think that anything that goes contrary to the narrative being presented by the Main Stream Media and powers that be is a conspiracy and false, is quite honestly the most telling sign of a person being an ignoramus.
Do you think governments are capable of deceiving their citizens?
Do we not have examples of this today? Biden's cognitive abilities being a perfect example.
How about throughout history, Stalin, Hitler... when you see the Justice system being weaponized not just against Trump, but those Senior members who remained supportive of him, and the lawyers that represented him... it might be wise to start questioning why it is they are all being targeted.
While at the same time wondering why information is being suppressed by the FBI, why false 'dossiers' are being used by the FBI, and so on.
It is a problem compounded significantly by the current Biden Administration age of... "you choose your own reality' and their efforts to put the full weight of the government behind such insanity.
Its almost as if they want the American people as confused and agitated and insane as possible.
A multi-millionaire is a victim despite her wealth, because she is black and she feels like a victim.
A person feels like they are a non-binary whatever, so you must identify and address them as a non-binary whatever, or lose your job.
A 6'5 man feels like he is a woman, so he decides to compete as a woman in sports, and Americans are told they must accept this, because it is that person's reality and we have no right, as a society, to enforce what is real/truth/fact on them.
For 3 years the Biden Administration lied and said the border was under complete control, that there were no issues, 10 million migrants later, and with an election coming up, they decided to act as if they were doing something about it, and then blame the Republicans and Trump for deterring their efforts.
Etc. Etc.
It isn't TikTok and Twitter/X that is causing this insanity, other than that information can get out so easily... its hard to convince America the borders are secure when there are videos popping up every day showing the streets of NY and San Fran, showing the thousands streaming across the borders, etc.
Those in Control have caused these issues with their constant lies and manipulations... with their Color Revolutions and Assassinations, with their trying to tell us Biden is the best he has ever been, as he stands on stage and craps himself.
We shall see.
The standard for social control and cohesion has been modeled in China and most of those who attend G7 and G20 and WEF meetings want to instill such governmental control throughout the Western nations.
CBDC, Social Credit Scoring, and so on. Only made worse in the West with their insistence on DEI and Equity being at the forefront of their efforts of change.The question is not if the government is speaking the truth. Or if the FBI is withholding information. Of course they do. The FBI will not publish the names of people working undercover etc. And they shouldn't.
But why should I believe Jo Rogan (to use his name as the influencer). Who tells me that the motives of Joe Rogan are sincere?
So the basic question is. Who do you believe. And the underlying question is. Why do you believe this person above someone else.
Simply put to me. I believe some resources above others. I believe for example Dr. Fauci above Donald Trump or Jo Biden when it comes to medical issues. Simply because he studied these things and Donald and Jo didn't. Now of course you can still have your doubts. But your doubts are grounded in believe, not in facts.
Same when I bring my car to my mechanic. I will believe his story about the cause of the problems of my car quicker than the story of my dentist about my car..
So authority of knowledge is for me a factor to believe something. Also authority in past behavior. I trust Wikipedia for instance more than Politico, or Life Magazine more than Walt Disney.
What I notice though by a lot of people is that they believe incredibly easy the things they hear from strangers on the internet through Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Twitter etc. and sharing these videos without looking at the source or the credibility of the person.
This sharing of populistic videos is I think another reason why so many people are confused about so many things today. Like confusing culture war with class war or thinking that making a compliment about your white teeth is a racist remark or that the Holocaust never existed etc etc.
I think the flat earthers are a classic example. They make videos about telling you that the earth is flat. Not because they believe it themselves but because the make money out of it. Doing a lot of damage in the meantime.
About the China model. Every country has its own way of keeping controll of the population. What works in China will not work in the US. What works in the US will not work in China.Interesting analogy.
But what if that auto mechanic is a dishonest crook, who tells you that you need a new fanbelt, alternator, etc...
How do you know if you need them or not?
Once you have discovered that the auto-mechanic is disreputable, how can you trust him again... especially if you find out he has screwed over many different people and plans on continuing to do so?It is a tricky one. Often you stay true to your first choice and give the advantage of doubt. Then he will trick you again, and again. and like a abusive relationship it will get harder to go to a different mechanic.
If you are critical (towards yourself and the mechanic) in the beginning you admit that your first choice of trusting him was wrong and you choose a different mechanic.
I think this adjustment and admitting that you were wrong is difficult. Especially as the little tricks happen slowly.
You trust a news agency or Podcast, and first all is fine. But bit by bit you notice something is off. It's difficult to change as you've commuted much time and sentiment in it.
Looking at myself. I've done this switch quite a couple of times. Slowly not believing in the person of the podcast anymore. Or in the Netherlands where you have the choice of voting +-14 different parties, I've switched three different parties over my lifetime. At hindsight I find it difficult to say why or when I exactly changed my mind. Sometimes it's trusting a good friends opinion. Or in the beginning I voted the way my parents voted as I trusted them. But slowly you build your own opinion.
So I guess it works the same with trusting news outlets. Some people you trust recommend a podcast and you start listening. And because you trust your friend, you are inclined to trust the Podcast too.
Something like that perhaps. Psychology is a weird thing.
Very well said (except the UFO thing, lol) and ALL TRUE.
I was happy to see the French came to their senses and kept the French Trumpians from taking over their government.Yes, France made a good move. The Netherlands though, went from right wing (the right is in power since 2002) to extreme right wing. Luckily the government there is always a coalition, so the question everyone asks, will it maintain itself for 4 years...
Is immigration driving what is happening in the Netherlands? Also, ironically, I read that immigration in Britain has picked up sense Brexit.
Also, also, I haven't read near as much about the influx of refugees from the Middle East lately. Has that slowed down?No. The main theme was about farming. Farmers have to change their way of farming as The Netherlands has a huge NO2 problem. This problem is already 20 years old, but as the farmers are an important vote with lots of money behind them, the government never tackled the problem. But as the EU insists that the Netherlands has to do something the government became more strict about this problem. The farmers didn't like that and started their own political party. They got 7 seats and as they also have a right wing agenda they formed a coalition with the extreme right wing party PVV (lead by the Dutch Trump, Geert Wilders..he has a weird hairdo too..) and the traditional right wing party VVD (that is in power for 20 years now..)
The PVV had indeed an anti-immigration and anti-muslim position, with for example, banning the building of mosques. Something that is legally impossible. But it also cleverly promised some left wing themes as cheaper housing and more money to education and healthcare.
About integration of Moroccans in the Netherlands. For as what I know I believe that especially the woman are doing well and follow more and more university studies. The boys are still a bit of a problem. They fight between two cultures. The Islamic patriarchal culture at home and the "Dutch" open culture at work and on the street. This gives some conflicts.
about the influx of refugees of the middle east (Syria etc) I do not know either. There are lots of refugees from Ukraine I noticed. A lot of people speak Ukrainian on the streets in Valencia.
Wilderness: Your list only exists in your imagination. It has all be refuted.
Of course. Biden has closed our borders as much as he can (that doesn't mean changing the rules to let more in). He has deported as many as he could from the interior, even after stopping the practice. He is getting resources from Heaven to support the illegals he brings in, including the bus/plane rides he gives them.
For sure - all in my imagination.Biden had the same border policy that Trump had except for ripping babies out of the arms of their mother's part. Now, it is stronger than Trump's policies.
With 4.4 million, Biden is doing better than any president since Bush at deporting or expelling migrants including Trump
Combining deportations with expulsions and other actions to block migrants without permission to enter the United States, the Biden administration’s nearly 4.4 million repatriations are already more than any single presidential term since the George W. Bush administration (5 million in its second term).
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article … ion-record
Why you insist on putting out false information about Biden's border policy is beyond me. Do you have a reason for doing that?Did you finally realize that every time you rail against Biden's border policies that you are railing against Trump's?
Hopefully, there are a lot more Republicans who don't want to say Heil Trump and will do the right thing and vote for Biden.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/09/politics … ump-digvidOne would have to be seriously detached from reality to ignore what we all saw that day to think something like this...but, that's pretty much par for the course in these forums from Trump's supporters.
'9-11 has always had its issues, such as how three buildings fell perfectly in on their footprints, something that only can occur through precision demolition... three buildings.'Absolutely
https://www.ae911truth.org/index.php/
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-release … 11896.html
https://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analys … ition.html
https://archive.siasat.com/news/911-con … l-1023280/
https://themillenniumreport.com/2014/09 … ge-update/
And literally hundreds of other such sites, research efforts, expert opinions, etc. have been done and can be found.
But hey... this is the age of 'choose your reality' so you can choose to accept or deny whatever information you want as true. Right?Not 'choose your own reality,' but invent your own reality. It's something those that support Trump really specialize in. And it does not surprise anyone that certain people in these forums could supply so many anti-government links to conspiracies about topics.
In that analogy, others have told you that the mechanic is a dishonest crook, but then when you ask them for the evidence of that claim, they present you with things that his family has done, but cannot show anything that directly implicates the mechanic himself. So, you begin to wonder about the people making the claims and how badly they process information to end up at conclusions that their information does not support. Or at least smart people would.
Well, yes, that's the danger of gossip and talking behinds ones back. spreading rumours.
I guess your hinting to Biden... I tried to get politics out of this but yes.
It is stupid to blame a father for what a son has done. Or the other way around.
Many people in the Netherlands and other occupied countries in Europe where ashamed and finger pointed because there parents had collaborated with the Germans in WWII. You can not blame the child for a murder his parents have committed. If Hitler had a son, he would have been innocent and should be treated as such. Anybody mistreating him because of his father is a bigot.
Gossip and romours can ruin someones live though. Saying that the mechanic was a pedophile without proof can already ruin his business. And I think there should be a safety net on social media to stop spreading these lies.
Peter writes a great comment about conspiracy theories ruining America and it is followed by other examples of them like the 9-11 and Biden weaponizing the Justice system (actually, he unweaponized it from what Trump left.)
Inflation slowed even more last month. Down to 3% CPI on a year over year basis and actually falling on a month to month basis after flatlining the previous month.
Thank you President Biden.
Historically, the CPI runs about 1% higher than the Fed's measure, PCE. It is the PCE that the Fed wants to remain at 2%. If history is a guide, inflation has reached the Fed's 2% goal.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/20 … chromepushAnd I am "angry and stunned" by misleading headlines like this from CNN.
"Angry and stunned Democrats blame Biden’s closest advisers for shielding public from full extent of president’s decline"
You would have thought this came from Lying Fox News or something.
"Decline" my ass. This is the same fundraiser that traitor Clooney attended. You know, the one where Biden just flew in from Italy after a hectic two or three weeks in Europe. You ever hear of Jet Lag?
Decline means things are getting worse. In March, these same people say he was fine. Now, three months later after a grueling schedule and many times crossed, they say he was almost catatonic. Personally, I have been there after such a schedule, and I was 15 years younger.
Then, apparently, he gets sick and takes maybe a day off before coming under extraordinary mental strain of preparing for a debate. He was somewhat sick the day of the debate and did miserably.
After that, he has improved (not declined) considerably and no mention of such episodes again, just energetic performances without a flop on a tough campaign schedule. I don't particularly like his style in interviews, but he was more than lucid, focused (but not energetic) with Stephanopoulos.
So far, all anybody has to point to about this so-called "decline" is a period from Jun 17 - Jun 27 when he was clearly off his game.
Nothing has come out from the NATO summit other than praise.
Tonight, he will have another test with an interview with the press. If he comes off as he did at the fundraisers or the debate, then I'll join the chorus for him to leave.
But if he comes off sharp and decisive, then everybody needs to shut-up and focus on the real danger - Donald Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/11/politics … index.htmlTonight, he will have another test with an interview with the press. If he comes off as he did at the fundraisers or the debate, then I'll join the chorus for him to leave.
But if he comes off sharp and decisive, then everybody needs to shut-up and focus on the real danger - Donald Trump.
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I think that this is a fair test, we cannot afford to let MAGA unnecessarily sow discord within our own ranks. I think with Biden's superb record, he deserves another chance before being thrown under the bus. I may well be the only Democrat that is saying this.
The alternatives to President Biden may not necessarily prove to our advantage. People are fooling themselves if they believe that Bidens poll number fall exclusively because of the perception of his age and capability, and that putting someone younger in as a stand in is really going to make that much difference. We are all allowing ourselves to be enveloped by the ubiquitous Trump smoke screen, once again.
I believe that Biden would have the integrity to step down his own accord if he recognized himself as being seriously cognitively impaired.I meant to include this in my comment as well.
So much of the "bad press" Biden is getting is because he physically shows his age. He has arthritis of the spine, hence the shuffling. He has always had sort of a hang-dog look which has gotten worse with age. His stutter always gives him problems and amplifies the appearance of cognitive issues. Work recall also declines with age as I well know, it drives me bonkers.
NONE of that, however has a damn thing to do with his cognitive ability. FDR was disparaged because he was in a wheelchair. Image the hell FDR would go through today because of it, yet it had no impact on his ability to lead us out of a Conservative caused depression and a war.
If Biden had real cognitive issues, he wouldn't have been so successful in bringing Netanyahu and Hamas so close to a deal again. If that happens, it all because of Biden. If Biden had real cognitive issues, then he wouldn't have sewn NATO back together again after Trump diminished it.
If Biden does fail tonight, then I no longer have any problem with Kamala Harris. When she first became VP, I thought she was weak and did not present well. She has changed my mind about that.You presumably disagree with the armchair (and professionals) that say Biden IS truly showing age and is not competent.
Question: is this a direct result of the claims that Trump is "mentally disturbed"? Those claims that started before he took office and have never stopped?Well, Biden didn't come close to failing tonight, so all the nay-sayers please need to find something else to whine about - such as Trump's terrible debate night with all his verbal stumbles and LIES.
That said, I wish Biden would talk less and drop such phrases as "the idea that", "number 1", "well ... never mind". It is distracting.So, how is it that a cognitively impaired man can be so successful? This man has had more success than most cognitively normal formal Presidents of the past that have held the office and that would include a "stable genius" or two.
I am interested in results and am not so shallow as to be rerouted by appearances and slight of hand by our opposers. In reality, that is why Biden is on the "hot seat" and unfortunately it will have a lot of weight.But can you admit to yourself that most of his successes happened during his first two years? And in the two years since, he's had many more senior moments and looked weaker. The job has taken a toll on him.
It is not just about the man but the teamwork an alliances that he forms that produce successful outcomes. The job has taken its toll, but I am not convinced that he can no longer be effective in it.
There's some truth in there, and why I'd still be willing to vote for Biden over Trump. But I'd rather have someone running at full strength in the most important job in the world.
Valeant, who has ever run at "full strength"? Disability can take many forms, lack of experience, the inability to get a contentious Congress to work through your legislative agenda. Much of that experienced by Kennedy and Obama.
It just irks me that there is always one yardstick that is applied to Biden while Trump and his insane and malevolent utterings are held at an entirely different one.
Harris is the Sorcerers Apprentice, in this politically toxic environment can she successfully navigate through it? Experience can cover for a multitude of sins.'It just irks me that there is always one yardstick that is applied to Biden while Trump and his insane and malevolent utterings are held at an entirely different one.'
And maybe you're not reading my comments. I'm saying both are deficient, and I see Biden as the less deficient. But there is a non-deficient option and I'd like to have the ability to go with that one.I have been reading your comments and know where you stand. It is that I just don't believe that Biden is as cognitively impaired as we are all told to believe.
Prior to the debate, the President comes back from a brutal international schedule, while Trump has been playing golf.
We are are going to disagree on this one,( but you are still invited for lunch if you find yourself in Central Florida again) but short of Biden being taken out feet first or a cognitive failure at the equivalent level, I am going to stick with him.
I see the "third alternative" as just so much vaporware in the face of the Trump juggernaut. We simply do not have the time nor resources to start over. I don't know if Harris can really be the Biden without the age deficit in the minds of the voters or whether she can convince them of such in time. Any other Democratic contenders would have to build their own "war chests" for the campaign, is that not right?Yeah, we can agree to disagree. I don't buy the international travel fatigue reasoning. Those are part of his duties, and if that is going to wipe him out, that is another piece of evidence to back my stance. Sticking with Biden might be the best play from a complications stance, but I just don't see him convincing the majority of Americans that he is fit to serve a second term.
I don't see Trump doing so either. I just got back from my usual 12-mile bike ride. In 2016 and 2020, there were a number of houses out in the country where I go displaying their Trump flags. Now, they do not. These aren't Roe houses, as they have older occupants. While Ken noted the women's vote, I also think he's underestimating the January 6th vote. Many people walked away from Trump after that.You live up North, in NY.
The reasons why you no longer see Trump signs there, is fear.
Those people understand now they are living in occupied territory, and that their jobs, safety, freedoms could be at risk for showing signs of Trump support in places like NY.
Only those people looking for confrontation would show their support for Trump in a State like NY. Most people try to avoid confrontation.
Many Americans realize that this has gone beyond 'a vote for Trump is a big FU to those in DC' beyond cute slogans like "Drain the Swamp" and "Lock her Up".
The People used Trump to voice their unhappiness with the way DC was running things.
And when they were able to oust Trump in 2020 and get Biden in, they went to work on doubling down on their efforts, to take from the people what freedoms and wealth they could.
Now you have migrants in your streets, assaulting Americans, robbing stores, and walking out of our courts without bail or a worry in the world.
Now your dollars are worth roughly 30% less... they didn't even have to tax you, they just spent trillions of dollars on things they wanted, and sent the American people the bill.
Now they are coming after your kids, they WILL be brainwashed with Pride Month, they WILL share their sports and showers with Trans.
All those pathetic Trump voters, those deplorable worthless ignorant Americans who want to put country and citizenship first, are going to be F'd so hard they won't know what hit them.Migrants in the streets assaulting americans? Has crime gone up in cities that have taken in the most migrants from Texas?
Actually studies show consistently that migrants are more law abiding the natural born citizens.
Since nobody chose to challenge that fact, I must assume they believe it and now understand that migrants aren't the murderous SOBs they falsely make them out to be. That when they repeat that myth, they do it knowing full well that is a lie and is intended to mislead their readers.
I think that on the whole that "fact" is likely true.
Does that mean illegals commit no crimes as a group? Of course not - only a fool would think that. More illegals then mean more crime and the question becomes why that should be supported and encouraged?And by the same logic, less Americans then means less crime. Maybe we should deport Americans if you want to reduce crime?
The only people "encouraging" migrants to come to America is your side lying over and over again that the border is open when it is not.
It may surprise you but Biden makes Trump look like a loser when it comes to deporting and expelling migrants after or as they come across the border not through ports of entry.
" the Biden administration’s nearly 4.4 million repatriations [deportations plus expulsions] are already more than any single presidential term since the George W. Bush administration" How does that fit into your false narrative?
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article … ion-record
Even your far-right Center for Immigration Studies failed to refute those facts by cherry-picking some words. It tries to pretend that ICE is part of the Biden administration and the CBP is not (or maybe it was the other way around, either way, they are lying.)
Also, putting a lie to Biden's "failed" border policies, even your right-wing CATO Institute claims "New Data Show Migrants Were [u]More Likely to Be Released by Trump Than Biden"[/b]. Yet ANOTHER Right-Wing myth debunked (are you going to ignore this as well?) [While I disagree with CATO's interpretation of data, I have found from analyzing their methodologies that they do do honest reliable studies]
"According to new data published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.
In absolute terms, the Biden DHS is removing 3.5 times as many people per month as the Trump DHS did. These figures are important for understanding how each administration has carried out border enforcement." - Even in percentage terms, Biden makes Trump look like a fool when he makes claims about how well he did with the border.
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show … rump-biden
AND, to point out the obvious, Trump and MAGA do not want Biden to succeed at the border, that is why they shut down the bipartisan (you really need to read it) Border Security Deal that Republicans have been screaming for since Biden took office.
[u]The fact is, as you go back in history, it is the Republicans who have always been responsible for inaction regarding immigration. Why is your side so opposed immigration reform?Why am I not surprised you would suggest that deporting people here illegally is the same as deporting Americans because they both commit crimes?
Because it is the type of "argument" I have come to expect from you. Senseless, without reason, grossly exaggerations and really silly suggestions.
Did it ever occur to you that finding people (at the border) to deport isn't difficult after you have encouraged millions to cross? Trump shut it down (or at least slowed it considerably) - to any reasoning person it is obvious that that single fact makes it much more difficult to find illegal border crossings to deport. Any reasoning person.
Opposed to "immigration reform" because to a liberal (like Biden) that means making it easier and easier to immigrate. Millions already try - the goal is to make it happen rather than try. And claim VICTORY! as illegal crossings disappear when it is no longer illegal.It seems that deportation is your solution to the crime problem, so I was only following your lead. That is also sarcasm. Look up the word.
I really wish the right-wing would stop encouraging migrants to cross the border by their continuous stream of lies about the border being open.
'Those people understand now they are living in occupied territory, and that their jobs, safety, freedoms could be at risk for showing signs of Trump support in places like NY.'
Completely inventive delusion. Upstate, New York is not New York City. Farm country up here. I understand you grew up downstate, closer to New York City, so you cannot understand going just outside a town and passing some farms. That towns up here elect Republican mayors and support people like Claudia Tenney as their Rep. As usual, the false assumptions of the right just show themselves.What you understand would be incorrect.
My first 10 years I lived on Cape Cod.
Then I moved to farm country, age 12 I was bailing hay on a farm from sunrise to sunset, paid good considering I was 12.
After a dozen years in the military, I ended up stuck in NY for a decade, making the best of an unpleasant State with unpleasant weather.
So now that we have clarified a bit...
I think I put forth a very reasonable perspective as to why former Trump supporters that you saw plenty of in 2015 you do not see in 2024 in your neck of the woods.
I am well traveled, especially throughout NY, I ran State funded programs and dealt with top State officials and politicians during my time there.
I understand fairly well the mindset behind the powers that be in NY, I was rubbing elbows with them on occasion, for a few years.
If you were a Trump supporter in 2015, especially in a place like NY, more often than not, it wasn't because you were ignorant or uninformed... those same people see what is going on, the FBI raids, the people going to jail for making the mistake of going to a rally, the onslaught of court cases and convictions brought against Trump and his Advisors and supporters.
If you are putting a Trump sign and flag out these days... you are asking to be targeted, especially in a State like NY.
Apparently you are calling Trump a liar (which true) when he says he even has New York in play. Which is it, he does or everybody is living in, lol. Fear?
She is just so damned good...
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/9Qp5VJp4qhA
Would make a great President.
I absolutely bought that international travel thing. Why? Because it has happened to me on more than one occasion. Now, I never had a travel schedule as grueling as his, so my reaction to it wasn't as bad as what we saw, but it was bad nevertheless. It takes me about a week to get all four cylinders working again after I have crossed a fourth of what he did.
Let's see -
- The Inflation Reduction Act - 2022
- The PACT Act - 2022
- Rallied the world to support Ukraine and reinvigorated NATO - 2021 to now
- American Rescue Plan - 2021
- Chips and Science Act - 2022
- Bipartisan Infrastructure Act - 2021
- Bipartisan Safer Communities Act - 2022
- Negotiated Israel - Hamas Deal (hopefully) - 2023 to now
- Respect for Marriage Act - 2022
- Executive Order Protecting Reproductive Rights - 2022
- Bipartisan Border Deal (that Trump killed) - 2023
- Executive Order Protecting our Border - 2024
- Hosted the first trilateral summit with South Korea, Japan and the United States. (yes, that was a big deal, SK and J were still not talking to each other) - 2023
- Launched the “Replicator Initiative” to better compete with China (Trump let America fall behind China). - 2023
- He reached a debt ceiling deal with House Republicans that reduced spending (which the Republicans then broke) that avoided a shut-down - 2023
- Forcefully stood with Israel after being attacked but still tried to rein in Netanyahu's worst instincts - 2023 to now.
- Total removals and returns of illegal migrants since mid-May 2023 exceed removals and returns in every full fiscal year since 2011. - 2023 - 2024
That is why many consider him the most successful first term president in modern history.
Most first term presidents see the most accomplishments in the first two years, Biden was no exception. But, he didn't stop in 2022. He is now successfully dealing with the most complex international problems than any president has faced since 9/11."- Total removals and returns of illegal migrants since mid-May 2023 exceed removals and returns in every full fiscal year since 2011. - 2023 - 2024"
Why do you never indicate how many foreign citizens without passports entered?And yet somehow, this man is not fit to complete the successes that he had accomplished and continue to Accomplish? So, where does that come from?
Essentially it comes from every time he makes a public appearance these days. He struggles with basic functions and speech today...
Imagine him 4 years from now... worse... imagine Harris for 4 years.I will take my chances with Biden over the Clown Prince of Crime anyday.
Yeah, having Jill and Hunter running things instead of Trump... I can see how clearly that is the better choice.
You are right; Biden has been successful.
He successfully created the highest inflation in decades.
He successfully opened our southern border to virtually anyone that wanted in. He also successfully brought in millions to the interior. Finally he successfully ignored the law that those already here must leave.
He has successfully turned the rest of the world against us, helping to create two wars at the same time.
He successfully released billions to a nation intent on destroying us.
Biden has been very successful...depending on how you define "success" of course.Yes, it does depend on how you define success and following a Right wing playbook is not my definition of that.
He is not mentally competent to do the job for four more years.
His replacement (Harris) is incompetent and unfit for that job as well.
These are the people the Democrats want to put up to handle the complex issues facing us now, and in the future.
You can't make Trump into a big enough villain to get me to support such insanity, it is a disgrace, beyond the pale, not that Biden is currently the President... but that the corruption is so deep, so uncorrectable, that the Democrat Party is trying to push forward with these two incompetent individuals for four more years.And you want a convicted felon and sexual predator, go figure.
Would you agree that someone who only lies is "incompetent" or consistently deals in conspiracy theories is "incompetent"? I do.
I'll take what you claim is Biden's or Harris' so-called and inaccurate "incompetence" over Trump every day of the week.Watched a part of Biden's latest interview (yesterday?). Shut it off because I couldn't take the constant lying.
I certainly understand that. I get the impression that you agree that that list of "successes" really ARE successes. It was a success when he brought in tens of thousands of illegal aliens, for instance, and shipped them all over the country under cover of darkness.
That is your bugaboo, Wilderness. Many of us see things differently.
I'll loan you a pair of my glasses, maybe that will help.
Inflation - A lie.
Opened the Border - A lie
Turned the rest ... - A lie.I think we have different definitions of what the word "lie" means.
To me, he already failed his test. Back in 2020, he said he would be a placeholder for the next generation. Since then, he's gone back on that. And there are just too many senior moments to think he should be anyone we should trust to run the nation.
The same should also be said for Trump, but then add in his malignant narcissism to that critique as another reason he should never again be near a public office.Really? You disagree that Biden's mental acuity should preclude him from being President for another 4 years?
Was there something else? Or just that deep, abiding hatred of Trump that makes you say such a thing?It's not hatred to conclude that Trump belongs nowhere near public office. It's reason and common sense. Those that feel differently are in denial that a convicted felon should be the leader of our nation. One who was convicted for cheating to gain that office in the first place.
Convicted felon AND a Sexual Abuser no less. What kind of person would want such a man in the presidency??
Repeat it enough times and you will at least convince yourself its legit and means something.
To the rest of America, and most of the world, it is just more proof that America has lost its way and has become a mix of circus-show and banana republic.
Hmm. Much like those that are in denial that Biden has screwed up virtually everything he's touched.
More far-right delusions and a laughable claim. But typical from someone who always exaggerates and goes to the extremes. And why many of us don't put much stock in that person's comments.
Another untruth. You are projecting Trump.
Went over that elsewhere. Again, different definitions of "success" yields different feelings on "screwed up". "Success" at the border, for example, does not mean making it legal to enter, so there are nearly no more illegal entries.
No, there is nothing else. In my opinion Trump is a jerk and has always been a jerk. If he dropped dead tomorrow, I would not raise an eyebrow. I would not be so much elated as relieved that we don't have a tyrant in office during the 250th anniversary of the "Declaration of Independence".
So I will allow you to interpret that in whatever way you will.....I will do my best to understand what you say. You hate Trump to the point that even a man that demonstrably cannot perform his duties (mentally incapable) is superior.
Got it.That is fundamentally what I have said, Yes...
I am satisfied with Biden's record to date and your attack on his cognitive abilities appear more to be political bias on your part. You really think that I don't know the difference?Seems fair, although stretched quite a bit. After all, we saw multiple reports by supposed experts (violating their oath) testifying that Trump is mentally ill, without ever examining him. Why not Biden?
(Again, conservatives learn fast; shown how to play dirty they do so with gusto.)I can tell you that Trump IS mentally ill and I am not a psychologist.
Your opinion is duly noted, as is the fact that you are not a psychologist.
Not that it matters as the far-right will ignore the hundreds of psychologists that have warned them about the dangers of a Trump presidency based on readily available information that is in the public domain.
Well, Ken is not a social scientist so that means his views on that subject are invalid, are they not?
He doesn't have a degree in International Relations, so he can't comment on that either.
Based on what he writes, he doesn't have much of an education in economics either, so, using his reasoning about you, he doesn't have anything valid to say about the economy. (And yes, I am educated in economics as I hold a certification as a Professional Cost and Economic Analyst issued by the Air Force Institute of Technology after finishing about 48 credit hours (approximately 12 classes) in the subjects. If I took the courses today, it would lead to a Masters degree.)
I love how Wilderness falsely claims that they violated their oaths. If they had diagnosed him, they would have. But they simply stated that with the public knowledge they are able to see, Trump's aligns with certain mental disorders. Not exactly a diagnosis, just a warning about what they see from public displays.
Even if you were telling the truth, which you are not, YES, if that were the only two choices. Can't perform his duties vs a convicted felon and sexual predator. I will go with the good man and not the bad man.
Exactly... they are essentially saying:
I don't care how unfit, how incompetent, how insane the people we support are... how damaging to our Country and the World their actions have been...
Anyone who is not sitting far to the Left on the spectrum of politics might have a problem with that... and anyone sitting Center to Center-Right definitely has a problem with that.So true. Can't say as I understand such "reasoning", but I can see it and wonder how the nation can survive with so many following that road.
Sadly, and to be entirely honest, the Dems have a very good chance, because of the repeal of Roe vs. Wade.
That alone probably has locked at least 30% of all women voters in to vote Democrat regardless of who is on the ticket.
58% of women voted for Biden in 2020... that is why he is there.
It would not surprise me if 58% vote for him again... heck between feeling sorry for Biden and being pissed about Roe v Wade, the Dems might surprise everyone and win in a land slide.
Might even be a historic win for them.
How could you prove otherwise?
You can't.May all your predictions come true, especially this one...
Oh F that...
Or did you forget how adamant I was that the Biden plan was to escalate our conflict with Russia... to the ruination of us all.
Stick your head between your legs and kiss your a__ goodbye if Biden is re-elected... that is my prediction.That one I don't have as much confidence in....
All the more reason to insure his reelection, in my opinion.OMG!!!
So... I tell you it is his plan to walk us into WWIII and most likely nuclear war and THAT gets a response of "All the more reason to insure his reelection, in my opinion."???
Yes, because that is what YOU say, why am I to assign that any great credibility? Did you work for the Department of State during your illustrious career?
You also told us the economy was going to crash if we elected Biden. As far as the record of your prophesizing goes, I'd rather play the lottery than believe a word of what you think will happen. Or what you 'think' Biden's plan might be. Most MAGA supporters greatly distort what they think the left hopes to achieve.
Actually, what we are saying is that someone with decades of experience as a government servant knows how to surround themselves with capable people. So, even though the candidate is flawed, and we can acknowledge those flaws, we trust the people around him to do their jobs.
As it is a choice, and we have seen the alternate being someone who must always portray themselves as the smartest person in the room, despite being a functional illiterate and someone that most of the people that have worked with him have called the dumbest human they have ever encountered, it's an easy choice. We've seen that person undermine the experts and directly promote things that caused American citizens to die.
The majority of Trump's cabinet will not support him, his own Vice President will not support him. That is telling. That's not a 'deep state,' but people that worked directly with him and are openly stating that he does not belong anywhere near the office again.
That means something to those of us that do not have to fall in line or be removed from our political party. There is open dissent right now to Biden, but he is not threatening those people. That's a main difference between the two parties right now. One side threatens its own citizens who dissent against it. One side does not. To me, and millions of others, that's one of the simplest ways that MAGA is totally disqualifying as a political party. If they do not get their way, they threaten their opposition with violence. That is about as unamerican as it gets.And you would be wrong. Time served in government does not equate to ability or competence, especially 50 years of it.
Cleary, he did not "knows how to surround themselves with capable people".
First point, that is not true... while the likes of Bolton and Mattis have strongly voiced their belief that Trump is completely unfit... others that you never hear about (bubble of information) supported him and still do.
If one delves deeper into the politics and perspectives, we can conclude why the likes of Bolton and Mattis were so discouraged with Trump.
They disagree with Trump's belief that we should leave NATO, for example, or at the least, get them to pay the vast majority of its costs.
There are those, like Bolton, that can't handle that Trump would consider it, or more likely, use the threat of it to get the EU nations to start taking care of their own Defense forces and stop relying on America carrying the burden and the costs.
You are entirely correct.
The assault on those that tried to work with Trump and accomplish the jobs they were assigned include his National Security Advisor, his Deputy Campaign Manager, his Campaign Manager, his Foreign Policy Advisor, several White House Advisors, a long list of 'known' names.
And literally thousands of 'unknowns' that are in jail today."And you would be wrong. Time served in government does not equate to ability or competence, especially 50 years of it."
A classic anti government rightwing attitude and you say that you are impartial?Do you believe our govt. is truly functional and doing its job in governing the country? With massive partisanship that shuts down the large majority of bills without even a glance, with power hungry parties that are more interested in the party than the country, with legislators that are more interested in their pocketbook than the country or its people, the only answer possible is a resounding "NO!".
And yet a great many of our "leaders" have been in government most, if not all, of their lives. They were not capable of governing when first elected; they are not capable now after decades of practice in bowing to party elites and giant corporations.I cannot deny everything in your second paragraph. But, I certainly don't see Trump or MAGA as any sort of solution. As they bring their own hide bound rightwing tinge on the problems, exacerbating rather than improving things.
When has there ever been a time when people did not gripe about our government?
Impartial no.
Experienced in how our government works, yes.
'Cleary, he did not "knows how to surround themselves with capable people".'
Clearly, he did as he steered the economy to the best recovery of all the nations like us. The far right was predicting a massive recession, and now they are giving Biden and Powell credit. Inflation was global, hurt by businesses closing and damage to supply chains, combined with many nations giving out stimulus. The businesses happened before Biden, stimulus before and during.
His foreign policy has more strikes than accomplishments, no doubt. And his humanity has encouraged people to migrate here. Although, after Covid, we did need the additional labor to fill open vacancies as many people, myself included, were able to take early retirement and not return to the workforce.
As for the cabinet members, go do some research to find out how many are actually supporting him. As of March of this year, it was only a third. Last year, at this time, it was just four of forty-four. And many of them have come out against the character of the man, not the policy.
'The assault?' Weird that all those people would plead guilty to crimes if they were innocent. That Trump's Deputy Campaign Manager would list the numerous dates, times, and locations where the Campaign Chair was meeting with a known member of Russian Intelligence and passing campaign strategy and internal polling data along to them. Information readily available in the 2020 bipartisan Senate Report on Russian Election Interference (that I'm sure no one in the Trump cult has bothered to read because it confirms the collusion they still deny). Just the latest weak attempt to shield the criminality that now permeates the Republican Party under MAGA.When the Democrats take back the House, they need to take a page from the MAGA book and start investigating the cover up of Trump's Covid illness and the fact that he almost died as well as the cover up of all of his crimes.
A moment where the clarity of truth is recognized... kudos.
Now if you also recognize that Harris is equally incompetent without the excuse of dementia and age being responsible for it...
Then I can ask, and am curious as to what you think should be, or needs to be done about it?Thanks, now if we can get you guys to join us in that reality and acknowledge Trump's many mental stumbles as well. Unlikely, since he's conditioned you all to deny any of his negatives, but it'd still be nice to bring you all into the same kind of reality many of us on the left acknowledge.
As for Harris, at this point, she does not have senior moments or live in an alternate reality where everything they do is awesome. So, to say she is 'equally incompetent' is the latest fabrication from the right. She was an effective Senator and I often enjoyed her questioning during hearings.
As to what should be done, it's Biden's nomination to turn down. If he does, an open convention would be ideal, but I've said it before, any option is better than what Trump offers the country. His plans to attack women's rights, voter rights, and his political opponents is a non-starter.Trump has his issues, the biggest of which is that he is a loose cannon and also is unwilling to play along with the neocon (and neolib) agendas.
They have made him their enemy #1, they have used the Justice system to try and strip his wealth and freedom from him... so I can see why there are plenty of people, living in the DC belt especially, that are terrified of the idea of his returning to power and coming after them.
Most of these people have lived in a bubble of untouchability their entire adult lives, no matter what they did, it would be swept under the rug... I can only imagine having never faced consequences for their actions before that they may be terrified of what might come.
Anyway... as for Harris, she is unfit, she is incompetent, she is a dumb ass. She is a clueless as you claim Trump to be without the ability to come off as dangerous or unpredictable as Trump can be.
Harris would be worse for America than Biden has been... unless they pick a VP that can really be running the show and does most of the appearances and deal makings. Like Dick Cheney was for Bush Jr.
There was such an opportunity in 2020 to pick a candidate that could settle things down and move the country forward in the right direction... but instead of a Tulsi Gabbard or Yang or Warren... you know, NEW, mentally fit, intellectually capable, not a corrupt crony dragged out of the basement.Yeah, zero admission of Trump's mental glitches or malignant narcissism. Like I said, totally conditioned.
Not sure the things you say about Harris are any different than what everyone has said about every Vice President in the last forty years. And I disagree with many of your claims having watched her performance in the Senate. She was very effective, let alone that her education dwarfs that of the functional illiterate that Trump clearly is.Why do you always need to turn it back to Trump?
First of all, he is YOUR creation.... your MSM sources and your Politicians made him into the worst Boogey Man the Progressive/Democrat/Tent has ever created...
And that in turn made him VERY popular to all those who stand in opposition to Progressive/Democrat goals/agendas in addition to being the Icon of all those 'deplorables' that are so despised by 'your side'.
There is a reason why 25% percent of blacks and 50% of hispanics now support Trump, and it is not because they are onboard with Republicans (Old School types) it is because of Trump and the endless persecution that the MSM and now the corrupt NY Justice system has done to him.
Not to mention the impeachments, the mistrust of the last election, and the general disrespect anyone in the establishment has given him.
You might as well spit in the face of all those 75 million Americans that voted for him.
Its bad enough Biden has been terrible for America... and all those who are not die-hard Democrats admit this... even pundits that are ALWAYS on your side admit this... but your side, you, have made Trump into an Icon for all those who are fed up with our corrupt Government.
You couldn't have done more to promote Trump if you had wanted to.
Valeant, Eso, you guys are like walking talking advertisements for Trump, you have done more to garner him support than anything I have ever typed.
People who read your posts, who despise your politics are drawn to Trump more by the posts you make than anything I have ever said.
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I was ready to move on from Trump 5 years ago, but it required a candidate that I knew wasn't a corrupt political sell-out, someone capable...
My choice then was Tulsi Gabbard... I would have even swallowed hard and supported one or two of the other candidates... but never Biden... just like never Clinton, I know how corrupt, callous, and criminal they are.
They use politics, and playing to their base, to do things only truly evil people could support. They have sold their souls for the pleasures of power and control.Why mention the same limitations that Trump is showing, that his base ignores, that Biden displays? Maybe to get them to acknowledge abject reality. That their candidate is just as flawed as Biden and was equally terrible for America.
Record deficits, removing of basic human rights from women, violating the basic human rights of children, allowing a deadly pandemic to reach our shores, tariffs that costed millions to regular Americans, daily embarrassments in the media like suggesting disinfectant to cure Covid.
Yes, I often attack Trump in the same manner you attack Biden. The difference is that your attacks don't make me fall into revered servitude to Biden. I keep my critical thinking ability to realize he is deeply flawed as a candidate as well. I can openly state it. You do that in the Trump cult and you get kicked out of the party. That's one of the authoritarian displays of the current GOP. You're either on board with everything, no matter how damaging to the country, or you get kicked out and then likely threatened.
And I don't see how the fix for a perceived corrupt government is to elect someone who has been shown to have committed sexual assault, blackmail, campaign finance violations, business fraud, willful retention of classified documents, obstruction of justice (multiple times when you include the Mueller incidents as well as the documents case incidents), whose violent rhetoric has led to multiple violent attacks on citizens, and who organized and incited a domestic terror attack on Congress to try and prevent the certification of his election loss.
Trump is media savvy, no doubt. He repeats his brainwashing over and over again until dumb people are convinced that it is the truth. Me, Eso and Cred, we've tuned him out because we know the majority of what he says is either gross exaggeration or outright lies. Trump and his minions live in an alternate reality that we will never want to be a part of.
If my 'persecution' by listing his many faults and crimes drives others to him, that is an acceptable byproduct if I can sway equal or greater numbers to see that electing a criminal and leader of a domestic terror cult is the last thing the country would ever want."People who read your posts, who despise your politics are drawn to Trump more by the posts you make than anything I have ever said."
hmmm . . .A true independent take on that statement. Does the left disdain for Trump and his supporters, or the MAGA's disdain for Biden, draw the independents to one candidate, or are they able to continue to weigh the pros and cons without being offended by the two parties taking hammers and chisels to each other?
I am going to give you more credit than Ken does and venture the second option.Thank you! However, at this stage with the recent turn of events with Biden perhaps I am now simply an observer doing a study on fatalism. I am undecided ha-ha
If Biden bows out and a younger candidate emerges, how would that sway you? Obviously, the candidate's positions would likely weigh in. As a Californian, what's your take on your former Senator?
"If the Biden bows out and a younger candidate emerges, how would that sway you?"
It would raise an eyebrow for sure.
"Obviously, the candidate's positions would likely weigh in"
Yup . . . how progressive they were would come into play and with what specifics.
"As a Californian, what's your take on your former Senator?"
Frankly, I am pretty ignorant of her record/past. I have great respect for her based on the highlights of her resume. All that I know is with some hearings I watched many moons ago I appreciated her reasoned questions pertinent to the topic. I am sure her experience and career as a lawyer came into play. I am inspired now to do my due diligence and begin researching her thanks to this inquiry.
You have no way of knowing how much credit I give him, so that is a false statement.
It is nice to see headlines like this:
"Americans seeking relief from high borrowing rates might not have to wait much longer."
"US consumer prices fell in June for the first time since the early months of the pandemic. Fresh data Thursday revealed that consumer prices dropped 0.1% from May. On an annual basis, inflation eased to 3% last month from 3.3% in May."
Thank you President Biden!
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/12/investin … index.htmlThe majority of actual economists from a Wall Street Journal survey think Trump will be worse for the economy than Biden.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets … &ei=26Discussions should go where they go without restriction.
I did deeper analysis of the swing state polls trying to take into account the difference between "likely" voters and "registered" voters with the assumption that likely voters is a true picture of the voting public. I also factored in the accuracy of each poll using the 538 poll rankings. I also stratified the polls into 2 month increments so that I would have a better representative sample in each group. Jan, Feb are together as is Mar, Apr and May, Jun. Unfortunately, at the moment I only have two polls, Emerson and Bloomberg, for Jul, Aug. This is what I found.
AZ - Arizona is "potentially" looking up for Biden. While he is running roughly 4 to 4.5 points behind and the first three periods had Biden losing outside the margin of error (MOE), the July data is 3.7 points down BUT, inside the MOE meaning they are statistically tied. Keep in mind, the two July polls with this and the others are after the debate debacle. Arizona to Trump at the moment.
GA - Georgia is a little better overall than Arizona. While like Arizona, the first three groups had Biden losing by between 4 and 6 points, all outside the MOE, there is a sense that he is closing the gap as the July, Aug group came in at 3.7 points down inside the MOE AND in an improving trend. Nevertheless, Georgia goes to Trump at the moment.
MI - I thought Michigan would be one of the bright spots for Biden - it really isn't but certain much better than Arizona or Georgia. His averages were -4.3, -1.5, -.8, -2.2. All were within the MOE but that last average broke the trend an seems to indicate Biden's debate performance really hurt him. I rate Michigan a Toss Up at the moment.
NV - Nevada looks very bad on the face of it, but looks may be deceiving. The average differentials are: -4.3, -2.4, -6.1, -5.8. That said, only the first one was outside the MOE. Surprisingly, the other three are statistically tied, go figure. Still, I rate Trump winning Nevada at the moment.
PA - Pennsylvania must be a huge disappointment to Biden. And here is debate performance hurt him most of all. His differences are: +.4, -1.1, -2.9, and -5.3!! The trend is definitely going in the wrong direction especially with the last to results outside the MOE. I give Pennsylvania to Trump at the moment. Biden has a whole lot of work to do here.
WI - Again, the debate performance seemed to hurt Biden. He actually pulled ahead in the May, Jun group but only to fall back in Jul, Aug. The differences were -2, -1.6, +.4, -2.1, all within the MOE. I rate this state a Toss Up.
It doesn't look good for Biden, but Trump is not walking away with it either.The Guardian - today: ""After Biden took office in January 2021, his White House struggled to reconcile the new president’s desire to withdraw from Afghanistan on the timeline committed to by the previous administration. After the May deadline passed, the Taliban began to step up attacks and made significant territorial gains. When the Biden administration announced that all U.S. troops would leave Afghanistan by the 20th anniversary of 9/11 in September 2021, and then moved up the deadline, the Taliban increased its assaults, resulting in the fall of Kabul and the chaos that ensued."
"Trump’s alienation of the Palestinians may have contributed to the conditions that led to the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks on Israel that started the conflict last fall."
"Biden administration and Iran agreed to a deal in which $6 billion in frozen Iranian funds held in South Korea would be released to banks in Qatar in return for the release of five detained Americans in Iran. As recently as last month, none of the cash has been released for any purpose, senior administration officials said."
NATO: "The vast majority of the 23 allies now meeting that goal did so while Biden has been president."I watched on America's Got Talent last night a really great chorus group composed of young Palestinians and Israelis to show how to get along.
Did I say they were really, really good?Well we can finally get to the real greatest thing President Biden has done for America...
He will not run for re-election.
He will not nominate the even more incompetent Harris to be his replacement.
So, good news from Biden, for a change.
A tiny bit of good news for Biden as the Democratic Party keeps shooting itself in the foot and is working hard to get Trump elected. The Clinton's both came out and encouraged donors to keep on giving to Biden.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ … index.htmlI don't know, ESO, I am discouraged. We go into our convention disorganized and in a state of disarray. Our MAGA enemy couldn't have have hoped for more. They are too many voices trying to run Joe Biden off without their offering positive alternatives. VP Harris simply does not have the heft, experience and trust Joe Biden has earned over decades of service in Washington. We may all get our clocked cleaned, and we may wish that more than the sow's ear were cut.
We have to brace ourselves for a new American Reich, with all the fascism that we are going to forced on us all by the GOP. We can expect them once in power to do all the horrendous things they propose, ending American democracy and prompting me to consider a move out of the country to a more enlightened society
Like the days of the Weimar Republic in Germany, the people in America choose tyranny and authoritarianism over Democracy, and I thought that with centuries of examples that we would would know better, apparantly not.....
Lady Liberty extinguishes her torch. The corporatists will offer its workforce slavery or starvation, this is jus t a part of the rightwing playbook. What was once passed as restraint or protection from exploitation will be removed by MAGA fascists. They will most certainly jail dissenters under any number of excuses, it may not be safe to remain here during a Trump regime.
So this article speaks a great deal for me.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-st … 00339.html
So, how will you hunker down?I will get a taste of that despondency tomorrow night at our in-person Bradford County Democratic Executive Council.
I don't think Harris needs that much "heft" given who her opponent is. And I don't have the same poor opinion of her I did just two years ago.
Even at the debate where she skewered Biden with that well-rehearsed line, I perceived her as weak or milquetoast. That lasted for the first two years of her vice-presidency. She must have been taking speaking lessons or something but about 18 months ago I noticed a distinct improvement in her presence. In the recent speeches I have listened to or heard excerpts from I have detected a level of coherent combativeness I hadn't seen before.
More important maybe is she is not gaffe or senior-moment prone as Biden is. You will not hear her call SECDEF Austin "that black man" when Biden couldn't remember his name (and then I think he compounded that by calling him Ketanji Jackson Brown (although I might have misheard that). I literally cringed in my seat while driving when I heard him say that.
Do I have any doubt that Biden can do the same great job for the next four years as he has in the last; bringing America out of the depths of depression Trump left us in? No I don't have any doubt. But I do doubt his ability to alter the "perception" of him giving he keeps making mini-debate gaffes almost anytime he gives an interview.
Do I think he can beat a liar, a felon, a sexual predator in the end, yes I do, but only if Democrats stop shooting themselves in the head and get behind him with the same tenacity as Trump's cult followers are behind him.
Save for Pennsylvania, the polls I have been analyzing are not "discouraging", because they are almost all within the margin of error. But, neither are they "encouraging" because they are not getting any better and in fact are currently getting a little worse. I don't know what he is doing wrong in his own stomping grounds, Pennsylvania, but he needs to quickly reverse things there. It is terrible.
Do I want Biden to be pushed out? No, it simply isn't fair although I am not sure how much damage that would do given the Democrats suicidal tendencies. But if he does decide to go, I think Harris is a good, if not the only, replacement.Hard to imagine someone I used to learn from could be in such a mindset and be so blind to what is going on today as to believe what is typed above.
I wonder how much of this is orchestrated to get people to believe such things, that are opposite of the very actions taken by the focus of such ire... vs ... how much of this is humanity's fate, that we seem to cycle through these endless bouts of creation followed by self-destruction.
If you know your history, you know these cultural as well as national battles occur constantly, consistently, as if clockwork.What was my definition for conspiracy theory proponents? Deny evidence of your own eyes and ears and instead listen to Rightwingers present an alternate reality that they never prove nor substantiate.
As far as I am concerned, Trump is the biggest threat to American Democratic government ever, from George Washington onward. That is my opinion and it remains final. I will always have nothing to offer this man Trump beyond my utter contempt.We in Florida already live in that Reich under DeSantis.
A VERY SAD DAY FOR AMERICA INDEED!!!!! President Biden has decided to not seek a second term after a whole bunch of weak-kneed, ungrateful Democrats laid him low.
And the reaction of Trump: "Crooked Joe Biden was not fit to run for President, and is certainly not fit to serve..."
Is that how you show respect for your fellow contestant? It shows Trumps character. Kicking below the belt.And getting up on a Podium in PA addressing the Nation and calling Trump and his supporters a 'great threat to Democracy' ... Domestic Terrorists ... Traitors is of course showing respect???
And then Biden does it all over again, a year later, in his State of the Nation address...
Trump has always been clear about his opinions of certain politicians... and after they impeached, jailed, and disparaged his reputation with each and every chance they got... you are going to feign being affronted over Trump using the word "crooked" to describe one of the most corrupt politicians of our era???
We are supposed to feel bad that they were forced to admit to the other half of America that never was willing to accept Joe was unfit and suffering from dementia from the outset of his Presidency???You know as well as I do that Trump was talking about himself.
You never answered me about how you can support a pathological liar who has no earthly idea what truth is, a convicted criminal, a convicted sexual predator, and a well practiced con man. Why would you defend the dregs of the earth?One thing is to say things in the heat of the battle. The other is to kick someone after the battle is over. That´s a different mentality.
It´s a mentality of kicking somebody you know who can´t kick back.That is the Conservative way, didn't you know.
Please, Biden directed his administration to do everything it could to upend Trumps life, his businesses, his family...
Biden doesn't deserve being lauded, he deserves being held accountable for the disaster his Administration has made out of our global relations as well as the damage he has wrought here at home.
That's what is wrong with Washington/DC and politics today, they want to enshrine Biden as a hero when he should be branded the biggest failure to hold that Office doing irreparable harm to America's stature in the world.NO! Trump did that to himself. If he hadn't committed all those crimes, then the independent Justice system would have left him alone.
It is amazing that you are not aware that the rest of the world see and SAY that Biden was a great success and friend,
I came on this thread two days ago and posted this.
That was a done deal on Friday.
Well, I reran the General Election polls for Kamala Harris, I have and see this trend:
One Nov poll: -7.0
One Jan poll: -3.0
Three June polls: -3.7
Eight July polls: -1.7Do you think Kennedy, JR will get a boost with this news?
No, I don't think so. I suspect there are Kennedy supporters who were totally against Biden. They may have a different view of Harris. For sure, the dangerous anti-vaxers will stick with Jr.
I doubt they will, but for the good of the country I hope West and whoever that lady is that is running as a Green will drop out.
5:30 p.m. Sunday, July 21, 2024
Well, there is certainly one more great thing we can add to President Biden's list!Yes it is. He showed us how to put country over self. He puts Trump and his supporters to shame!!!
Now it is time for Trump to do the same and save America by dropping out.Funny, Ronald Reagan was almost 78 when he left office in Jan. 1989. He was reported to have been experiencing Alzheimer's onset.
So why is it that Donald Trump at 78 is not to old to be President? Funny the Republicans will shell the age issue and now claim that their "stable genius" is sharp as a tack.Do you think all people age at the same rate? Everyone will live to be 87 and die on the 5th day after that birthday?
I see plenty of gaffaw from Trump. I say Trump is not much less problematic than Biden was from a cognitive standpoint. The evidence will reappear and I will wait for it.
I think Harris should pick Gov. Roy Cooper from North Carolina as her VP. He is term limited, as smart as they come and may help bring in North Carolina.
The rest either won't take the VP spot or can't afford to give the position they fought so hard to attain in Red state.What about Kamala Harris? A Woman President is a good idea.
Elizabeth Warren:
“When you’re up against a convicted felon, who better than a former prosecutor to take it straight to Donald Trump?"Exactly. I wonder if they can make a chant that includes Convicted Felon, Pathological Liar, and Sexual Predator anytime they talk about Trump. At least the brainwashed will know who they are voting for..
I hope they ramp up the rhetoric... keep slinging the shht...
Trump has a solid 45% base that is not going away today...
The undecideds are probably very squirrely about what they see going on, the endless attempts to jail Trump, the assassination attempts, and a swap out of Biden for Harris.
Playing hardball and doubling down on the Trump attacks is the way to reel them in.... hope they do just that.The violence Trump preaches has had its consequences. The assassination was carried out by a Republican. The attack on the Capital was by Trump devotees.
I prefer the rhetoric of Warren far above the megalomaniac rhetoric of Trump.
But I guess that most people love the way Trumps speaks because it's more entertaining and most people don't want to look at the politics but want to be entertained.
That's why Trump is going to loose. He's an old record, stuck. The world has seen his tricks and heard his jokes. We're getting bored.
Vice President Harris is new and in this modern social media hungry public, new is what we want. a new face, voice, and new entertainment.
So I think Vice President Harris will surprise us all and Trump will be history.Don't you think Trump should stop committing crimes if he wants to stay out of jail?
Preferably one that can string coherent sentences together better than ol'Joe can these days.
One that doesn't feel the need to explain to the press that Russia is a big country near Europe.
One that doesn't remind people of the Joker's maniac laughter when she breaks out cackling over some minor issue, (the Joker reference is to the Batman villain).
In fact, how about we skip a Harris presidency and wait for someone fit to represent the Nation on the world stage, for the first woman in history to hold the office, might want to make a good first impression... Harris is not it.Or Trump. He is terrible at stringing coherent sentences together. And on the occasion he does, they are probably lies.
Remember, Trump is a convicted felon.
Remember, Trump is an adjudicated sexual predatory
Remember, Trump is an adjudicated fraudster.
Remember, Trump is a .pathological liar.
And that makes Trump the perfect choice for Conservatives to be President!
The best thing he has done is to be booted out of office and pave the way for Trump.
Don't you mean pathetic liar, felon, and sexual predator Trump?
The Accolades to Biden start flowing in.
“I know that, as he has done throughout his remarkable career, he will have made his decision based on what he believes is best for the American people,” Starmer (British PM) wrote on X.
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau thanked Biden for being a “true friend” to his country. “He’s a great man, and everything he does is guided by his love for his country,”
Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said Biden deserves to be recognized for “once again not putting himself forward first, but giving his first consideration to being what he believes is in the interests of the United States of America, as he has done his whole public life.”
“President Biden has dedicated his life to public service, and that is something that deserves much respect,” New Zealand Prime Minister Christopher Luxon said on X.
“Many strong decisions have been made in recent years and they will be remembered as bold steps taken by President Biden in response to challenging times,” Zelensky said on X. “We will always be thankful for President Biden’s leadership.”
Netanyahu said his trip was an opportunity to thank Biden “for the things he did for the state of Israel, both in the war and during his years of service as a senator, as vice president and as president.”
President Isaac Herzog described Biden as a “true ally of the Jewish people,” while Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said the US president’s “steadfast backing, especially during the war, has been invaluable,” both in posts to X.
“My friend Joe Biden has achieved a lot: for his country, for Europe, for the world,” German chancellor Olaf Scholz wrote on X. “His decision not to run again deserves respect.”
Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk wrote on X that Biden had made difficult decisions “thanks to which Poland, America and the world are safer, and democracy stronger.”
“I know you were driven by the same motivations when announcing your final decision. Probably the most difficult one,” Tusk said.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/22/world/wo … index.htmlVenkatachari M: The first soldier through the wall always gets bloodied. That was Hillary Clinton who won the popular vote by 3 million in 2016. VP Harris (not just Kamala please - she is not a cocktail waitress but the vice president of the United States) is the next soldier in the fight. Don't know where you are from, but in case you don't know, women have never been a minority in the U.S. We have earned representation at the top.
Never a minority but treated like one by Conservatives.
What people don't realize, she was not only a prosecutor, but also The 32nd Attorney General of The State Of California. After 3 plus years as VP, I think she has the chops to take on Trump. It's easy, Trump is dirty, she is clean.
He can call her names and demean in every disgusting way he and his cohorts can come up with. But, no matter how Trump tries to ignore his transgressions, they will stay with him forever. He may believe Biden stole the election from him and he is innocent of all charges against him, but that is because he lives in his own reality.Yeah...
that's for sure...
Tulsi knows about Harris, and her fitness for the job:
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status … 3479276897Oh, that's a good one, the conspiracy of the deep state Yeah and Obama was born in Kenya. Steve Bannon started the deep state conspiracy and look where it got him. He is now in deep prison.
Tulsi is in the same league as Trump - you can't believe a word she says.
I am sick of these types of comments about Trump. All these allegations and "convictions" were fabricated, and it's this type of narrative that undoubtedly led to a near-tragic outcome.
Won't he be disappointed when he finds out he wasn't the target, he just happened to be on stage when the idiot decided he wanted cause mass murder. At least that is what the investigation is finding out. Crooks simply chose the closest event where there were going to be a lot of people.
As to your "fabricated" comment. Does that suggest juries are worthless if they go against Trump?
The more I think about it, the more I have come to believe that Harris is going to crush Trump.
Can you imagine the debate? After President Biden's one debate with her, I've always suspected they orchestrated the collapse of her campaign and offered her VP so he wouldn't have to suffer another one! Who knows?
And as far as I'm concerned Trump can have it on FOX. Would only make it more entertaining.
Who are you hoping for VP? (You or anybody) I'd love to see the AZ senator/astronaut. Turn that red state blue.I am thinking Roy Cooper of North Carolina. I very popular governor who can't run again and a state Trump won by only 1.5 points.
That said, Kelly has a great backstory (I didn't realize he actually commanded the International Space Station. Plus, he has a great advocate in Gabby Giffords. Lastly, AZ has a Democratic governor, so she would pick his replacement.
What ever venue they hold the debate on, it has to mute Trump's mic.I can go with Mr. Kelly, a true hero in my book.
Ken, more misogynistic tripe like that and the women of America will take to the streets.
Disrespect for the ageing process is inexcusable. You'll change your tone when it is your turn.KT Dunn: The 34 felony convictions are not fabricated. They are on his record.
When the house is on fire it is not a type of narrative to shout a warning.Esoteric: Not worried about Trump's gaffes. It's what he says on purpose that worries me.
What a strong start for Harris - at least $81 million raised in the first 24-hours which beats the pants of anything Trump has done (and even what Biden did) and enlisted I think 30,000 volunteers nationwide.
I live in a very Red county in Florida and am a member of the county Democratic Executive Committee. We normally have about 10 whole people show up at our meetings. Last night, either because of Harris or some texts I sent out, we had 21. And that included a 19 year old; I don't think we have had anyone under 55 in four years! (To give an idea of how small we are, that represents about 0.5% of the registered Democrats here.)Did it occur to you that those donations were simply waiting for Biden to back out? That they are not "new money" at all, that Harris did absolutely nothing to get them?
But something I don't understand - perhaps you, as an Executive Committee member can explain. The Democrat primary in my state is long over, and pledged delegates chosen, all for Joe Biden. Does that mean that Democrats will not be able (in my state) to pick a candidate for the Presidency? Who picks then - party VIP's? Who will the Idaho delegates vote for as they are already pledged for Biden, but cannot vote for him? Will they simply make up their own mind without regard as to what the people wanted - the whole "democratic" thing simply set aside and a few delegates choose instead of the people?
This whole thing stinks, IMO. Biden has disenfranchised the majority of the nation when it comes to the Democrat party and it's candidate, right? It reminds me of the "super-delegates" that put Clinton into the race without concern for who the people actually chose. And Democrats complain about Trump killing Democracy!Since Biden is not running, the delegates can vote for whomever they want. (In most states, they can do that anyway.)
It would probably help in keeping you from making misstatements if you would read up on the Democratic delegate process rather than repeating what you hear on your alt-Right media outlets. Super-delegates can't vote in the first round.
I know you won't go find the facts, so here they are: Clinton - 2842 (60%), Sanders - 1865 (39%) Sanders lost by 977 votes and there were only 713 super-delegates. So your bias and memory prove wrong again.I did read it, it just didn't make sense to me.
But you have confirmed it; the people of the states, voting on who they want to run in the Presidential race, have no vote this year. Only a few thousand delegates actually have a vote that will pick the Democrat choice for President. No one else gets a say.
Democracy in action, right!? Let the VIP's of the party choose - the peons in the street need no representation.
Ummm...if the super delegates went for Sanders rather than Clinton he would have picked up 713 votes while Clinton lost that amount. New total: Clinton 2129, Sanders 2578. So you are proven wrong again. 3rd grade arithmetic - will get you every time!
Here is one piece from Barack Obama. He praises Joe Biden with a very beautiful article on Medium. I got fascinated by his recommendations.
Here is the link https://barackobama.medium.com/my-state … b78b3ba3fcJust watched Biden's "Passing the Torch" speech. It was very good. There are only two people in American history who stepped away from power - George Washington was the first, Joe Biden was the next.
Biden is a great man.Google must have a glitch. She says there were 4 more between Washington and Biden. Maybe someone will send her a community note.
GANot sure where my head was at, probably stuck with "not running to save democracy". I probably got the same four and it left off Truman and Johnson, I suspect because they started to run then quit like Biden.
Really? Biden was the WORST president in history. Bo Peep could do a better job than Biddy Biddy Biden. Good riddance.
Biden was a great man...
Now we can stop talking about him and get on the Harris train... no one wants to hear anything more about dementia Joe.
Time to let him fade away... and this thread...
Start a new one about how great Harris is, how qualified she is, and how she will make America be built back better.IS and will continue to be a great and honorable man who cares more about his country than his party or himself. That is something that you will never be able to say about the pathological liar, felon, and sexual predator Trump.
They already started Building American Back Better with the probably record number of bipartisan bills such as the Infrastructure Act (you know, the bill Trump talked about doing for four years but never did.)
The Biden-Harris administration has been tougher on migrants illegally crossing our border than Trump and they have deported or returned more of those same people than Trump ever thought of doing. All Trump can do on immigration is defeat bills designed to make enforcement better or to reform immigration.
Trump didn't do it in his first failed administration and he will fail again if he, by some miracle, gets in again. Remember, he just told HIS Christians the other day that he intends to turn America into a hereditary dictatorship.
The worst?
Did he incite an insurrection on our Capitol?
Did he refuse to attend the inauguration of his successor?
Did he separate children from their parents at the border - then lose track of them?
I could go on - but those three make my point.There is also this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historica … ted_States
And this more current one:
https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politi … trump-last
JUST IN:
"The US economy is on the verge of an extremely rare achievement.
Economic growth in the first half of the year was solid, with the economy expanding a robust 2.8% annualized rate in the second quarter, according to fresh Commerce Department figures released Thursday, which are adjusted for inflation and seasonal swings.
Gross domestic product, the broadest measure of economic output, was much stronger in the second quarter than economists had predicted. The GDP report showed that businesses are continuing to invest and that consumers are still fueling growth with their spending, despite high prices.
As the economy continued to expand from April through June, inflation resumed a downward trend and seems to be on track to slowing further toward the Federal Reserve’s 2% target."
God Bless Joe Biden for doing this for us.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/25/economy/ … index.html
(If my understanding of the indexes the Fed uses for its 2% inflation target, we are already at the goal. The Fed uses the Personal Consumption Index to set its goals. It historically runs about 1% lower than the CPI which is reported in the news and is 3%, The PCI currently stands at 2.6% but the June number will be released on July 26th, tomorrow. So we will see if Biden has reached the Feds goal.)Its funny, the real indicators show we are losing jobs at a quickening rate.
Losses that are currently being offset with government hirings, I think it was 70k this month alone. Its a way to 'cook the books', so to speak, for a few months.
I am beginning to see the strategy... keep things afloat for a few more months, then let the bottom fall out... either they will have won the election and then it won't matter how badly things collapse, they will be in control of who pays the price for their failures... or Trump will somehow win the election, and then they can blame him for everything when things collapse.
I'm sure that is what the internal bickering within the Dem party is about right now, do they fully get behind Harris and see if they can pull this out... or do they jockey things around so that when Trump gets in, the world implodes around him on day 1... shifting focus to 2028.
That's not a half-bad plan, now that they have fleeced the Republic pretty good these past few years, they can let Trump back in to take the blame for when everything collapses... in a few years time people will be begging for a savior to come from the Democrat Party, they will be willing to tolerate a lot more abuse if they are forced to suffer economic hardships like we have never seen as a nation, because of Trump, of course.When it collapses it will be blamed on Trump regardless of what actually happened.
Then if they win, they can scream out what heroes they are for bringing back the (economy, border, whatever) in spite of the actions of evil Trump.
Historically, that is the way it works. Trump caused the pandemic; when the economy eventually, and very slowly, recovered it means Bidens figures show up great! Unemployment down (as closed businesses are allowed to re-open), employment up (same reason). GDP up (same reason). The only negative is massive inflation...caused by Trump, don't ya know!No, I mean what is really going on.
The economy is crushing people, it looks decent ONLY because the top 10% are raking in the money, while the rest of America is losing wealth and savings due to the cost-of-living increases, which impact the lower classes far more than they impact the top 10%.
You are an economics guy, you know the difference between mean and median, between incorporating, or excluding, the top 1% from the rest, to give a fairer picture of what is going on in the economy.
For American households with a head of household under the age of 35, the mean net worth in 2019 was $76,300. But the median net worth was just $9,800.
Things have not gotten better since 2019.
Fed data also shows education plays a massive role in net worth.
In 2019, the median net worth for households in which the head completed a college degree was $308,200. For a head of household with no high school diploma, the median net worth was just $20,500.
This too has shifted since 2019, currently white collar positions are being terminated across a range of corporations more so than blue collar positions at this time, including many big name corporations like Microsoft that has done away with entire swaths of employees such as their DEI department.
It will be interesting to see how things play out, we have a real Soviet style coup going on right now, lets see how Americans react to the shenanigans being presented by the Party today.
Just love how we went from 'Joe Biden is the fittest to ever be President, and if you say he has dementia you are a Conspiracy Theorist and Racist!'
Bam! Overnight the tune changes...
'Kamala Harris is the fittest to ever be nominated to be President, to say she is a DEI hire is racist! To say she sounds like an idiot is racist! To say she was picked by Party elites and not the voters is a Conspiracy Theory!'
Yeah... it must get harder and harder to swallow the lies, or maybe the brain has been turned to mush and can't tell the difference... maybe that's the benefit of being a faithful follower of the ideology, you don't have to worry about critical thinking, just echo whatever the talking heads tell you the truth is... and believe it.
Great Job President Biden! Inflation as almost reached the Fed Goal of 2%. The index used by the Fed, the PCI, dropped to 2.5% and has been under 3% for quite awhile now.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/economy/ … index.htmlThey can stop pumping up the Biden Administration...
The Weekend at Bernies Presidency has been exposed...
On to Kamala Harris...
The RCP Generic Congressional Poll just flipped from Red to Blue. For the whole month of July, only one poll favored the Republicans, the other 8 were either Tied or had Democrats up by 1, 2, or 3 points.
Trending on Twitter (unfortunately known as X).
“"Both Parties Are Not the Same" - Democrats want to protect your right to have children OR NOT. Stand with us to protect your freedom of choice, IVF, and preserve democracy. Will you vote for candidates who respect those liberties?”
Courtesy of the Sarah Palin of the Pathological Liar, 34 times Felon, and Sexual Predator Trump campaign - JD Vance."A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within! For the traitor appears not a traitor - he speaks in accents familiar with his victims, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation -- he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city -- he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared." - Cicero, 42 BC.
Cicero was one of the most widely read philosophers by our founders. Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Hamilton, Franklin all read him widely and tried to copy his stoic philosophy. That is why they tried to build in guardrails into our Constitution to protect us from Demagogues like Trump, who this quote describes perfectly. Unfortunately, politics demolished many of those guardrails which allowed such evil as Trump to succeed.
(And before you go trashing stoicism, you might want to read up on it first. It is not what you probably think it is and it certainly isn't what I thought it was. And neither is epicureans, which Jefferson ended up adopting, either)You mean "treason" as in inviting 10 million illegal aliens to come into our country? As in instructing ICE not to deport anyone already in the interior even though the law says he must? Treason as in disregarding his constitutional duty to secure our border, not open it up? Treason as in working secretly and unknown in the night, transporting criminals all over the country to turn them free in surprised cities, undermining that pillar of our nation, the laws of the Constitution?
Meanwhile he "speaks in accents familiar to his victims" - he tells us all that it is legal to violate the law and legal for him to ignore the Constitution. He appeals to that which lies deep in the hearts of men - the desire to help those in need...and he makes it sound as if his illegal actions are a good thing rather than the unethical, immoral, illegal act it is. You mean the actions of a President who "rots the soul of a nation" by repeatedly violating the law while encouraging others to do the same?
You chose a pretty good quote for it.Show me his "invitation". I don't think he ever issued one. So all that follows is nonsense.
And for the rest of it, you are simply projecting Trump.I have. Over and over and over. You and I both know he invited them in before elected, we both know he promised an easy path to citizenship, again before elected.
And the rest is pure Biden, not Trump. It just matters who you wish to put the words to. They fit Biden even better than Trump.
Or course, you can pretend he isn't doing what he is: you can pretend he didn't shut down deportations from the interior. You can pretend he is strictly enforcing the intent of the law vis a vis border crossings. You can pretend he isn't transporting criminals under cover of darkness. You can even pretend he is not repeatedly violating the law. But he IS doing all those things, and he IS "rotting the soul of a nation" by repeatedly ignoring the law and his responsibilities as President. Others do not.No, I don't know that. What you and I both know is he kept the same policies Trump had unless you consider not ripping babies out of the arms of their mothers (the one Trump policy Biden stopped) as "inviting" them in?
We both know that NOT ONCE did Biden tell the migrants to come in illegally over the border. IN FACT, he told them not to, many, many times.
We also both know you and your side are the ones doing the inviting by LYING to them that the border was open when it was not.
We both know that it was Republicans who have ALWAYS shot down Democratic attempts at immigration reform because it is too good an issue to use on the campaign trail. That means Republicans don't give a damn about securing our border. We are on to your sides work games.
Trump IS the ROT."we both know he promised an easy path to citizenship, again before elected."
We also both know that your "immigration reform" simply means it becomes easier to enter and easier to gain citizenship. Never, ever to shut down the border to anyone not carrying a valid passport. Never ever to limit true immigration, either.It was not "my" immigration reform, it was what you and your side wanted and then rejected for political reasons.
Unlike you, I want America to thrive economically and to do that we need immigrants, even ones that are not white.Sure thing. All Conservatives want unlimited immigration from all the third world countries so we can support them. Must be true, because that's all that was offered and you claim we got what we wanted. Oh yeah, and the concept that Biden could reduce if it crossed a certain number and he chose to. Given that he already chooses not to, with multiples of that number, there isn't much hope.
I'm sorry that you want only white immigrants - most of us have left that kind of overt racism behind us. Decades ago, in fact.
And I'm also sorry that you wish to pretend that taking on tens of millions of dependents that cannot support themselves is how to "thrive economically". Given that, why don't we simply give our GDP to third world countries all over the country? We don't need it, according to you.It doesn't make any difference what Conservatives "wanted". What they did was lie to the third world that the America borders were open and then voted to make sure even better controls couldn't be put on entry. What was the third world to think from all the Conservative lies? That the border was closed (until they got here and found that it was.
Pretty dumb of Conservatives, don't you think?
I am sorry that you go hyperbolic and don't understand basic economics.Sure! It's a lie that millions upon millions of illegal aliens have poured over our border since Biden was elected...because, after all, he closed the border. Right, and the moon is made of green cheese, too.
(Have to wonder just who it is that Biden is shipping all over the country from that "closed" border. Oh yes, he has made them legal so the numbers look better for him! Forgot about that little detail.)
I'm sorry you don't understand basic economics either. You will forever maintain that additional costs, without return, are good for us but most of us know better. You might want to ask NYC about just how that works. Or Denver. Or maybe Martha's Vineyard. Or most any large, so-called "sanctuary" city. (Sanctuary until it actually happens, then suddenly they're backpedaling and calling for ICE and millions of $$ because they can't afford the costs of supporting tens of thousands of illegals. But, of course, it is good for those cities, isn't it?And, to use your vernacular, Biden has returned/deported millions upon millions illegal aliens (most of them the same millions you talk about) back across the border - more than your man felon Trump did, btw.
You see, you keep putting out misinformation that I have on multiple occasions provided you the proof that debunks everything you say. But you are so wrapped up in your fantasy that your refuse to consider what is true.
What is that misinformation you keep spreading? That it costs more to absorb immigrants into America than what they return. No matter how many times you say that isn't true won't change the fact that it is true.Here, watch this, it will help give you a more balanced perspective:
https://trump2024.film/Balanced from OAN (among other right-wing propaganda outlets), come on, stop pulling my leg.
You clearly didn't watch the videos.
I suggest you watch them several times, to ensure you take it all in.He believes "News" from OTHER media outlets.
Yes, that is true. I don't watch networks who lie to their viewers or parrot Putin - like Lying Fox News does.
So... rather than listen to something that offers an opposing view...
You ignore all sources of information that are not considered 'valid' sources of information based on whose determination?
How do you know they are not valid?
You only accept information from sources that are labeled as Far Left, or Progressive. That means you are in your own self-made self-imposed bubble... and you regurgitate the information these sources provide you, and those who share those same beliefs and sources, echo your beliefs and sources to one another.Did you not read the review? It was very clear that what you offered was pure Russian propaganda.
Do you often read Russian Propaganda... I assume you do if you can identify (whatever link you are referring to) it as propaganda.
Otherwise, how would you know it is pure propaganda?
Anyways, its time to let the 'in defense of Biden' thread fade away...
Biden is just an annoyance now, getting in the way of the future of the Party, the real change that was promised... Kamala Harris will lead in ways that Biden was never capable of (prior to his being overwhelmed by dementia).
Biden was a horrible President for America, he will go down in history (once enough years have passed), as one of the worst of all Presidents.
Time to stop pretending he was anything other than horrible for America... and move on to Kamala. The future, Progress.Here is Fareed Zakaria's Transcript from yesterday's show about Biden's time as president and what he has really done while being president.
It's too early to write up the legacy of Joe Biden. He has six more months in his presidency and in these volatile times, much could happen. But it seems worth looking back at what we now know will be a one-term presidency and asking, what will define it in history?
To me, the signature aspect of Biden's presidency has been his big break from decades of economic policy. For almost half a century the federal government has refrained from any transformative, long-term investments in the American economy. Even the large COVID payments were for consumption, not for investment. In fact, that defining fiscal policies of our times have been tax cuts.
President Reagan, Bush and Trump all enacted large tax cuts that broadly benefited the rich. The result has been an America that can be characterized by private opulence and public decay. $100 million homes in a country where the roads are scarred by potholes and children die at higher rates than any other country in the industrialized world. These tax cuts, by the way, along with spending on wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, are responsible for much of America's enormous federal debt.
Biden changed this narrative. He used the resources of the federal government to make large investments in infrastructure, childcare, manufacturing, and energy. These investments will not pay off anytime soon. Many of them have just begun. But the U.S. is now undergoing the largest upgrade of its transportation infrastructure since the 1950s, with more than 56,000 projects already launched.
It is seeing a boom in manufacturing investment and employment that reverses a decades long trend. Green energy is booming and for the year that it was in effect Biden's expanded child tax credit helped reduce child poverty in America by 46 percent. Moving a staggering 3.4 million children out of poverty in one year. The credit expired after a year and congressional Republicans refused to renew it.
Biden's measures helped trigger the strongest post-COVID recovery of any major economy. The U.S. has produced over 15 million jobs. The most ever for any president in one term. The unemployment rate stayed under 4 percent for over two years. That's the longest since the 1960s. Black labor force participation rates are now higher than of whites for the first time ever on a sustained basis, and so on.
It's true that inflation surged and while the pandemic played a role so did an excessive infusion of cash into the economy for which Biden must be held responsible.
[10:05:02]
There are aspects of his policies that I disagree with. But overall as former treasury secretary Larry Summers told Bloomberg TV the record is remarkable. Summers added, "I don't think any administration has so outperformed the economic forecasts on the day that it came into office."
Biden gets almost no credit for this economic revival. Some of that is the lingering effect of inflation and the persisting crisis of affordability in areas like health care, housing, and higher education. But much of it, as I have long argued, is that we live in an age of cultural politics. The issue on which Republicans have been attacking him mostly is not the economy, but the border.
On that Biden was vulnerable because he had pandered too long to his left-wing allowing the system to collapse under the weight of millions of migrants arriving at the border and demanding the protections that come from seeking asylum. He finally adjusted. But by then, Donald Trump had forbidden any Republican cooperation to alleviate the crisis.
The other area where Biden has made his mark is foreign policy. He has addressed the challenges presented by the return of Russia and a rising China, but done it not through solo actions or one-shot deals. The administration has strengthened America's alliance system, bolstering NATO and adding two new members to it, Sweden and Finland. Similarly in the Indo-Pacific, it has built new structures of cooperation and deterrence with Japan, South Korea, India, Australia, and others.
All in all, it has handled the world well enough that surveys suggest that most countries rate the United States and Joe Biden much more favorably than they did under Donald Trump.
The final legacy of Biden is that he has returned the presidency to an office of sanity, decency, and dignity, ushering out the dangerous demagoguery and anti-democratic rhetoric and behavior that preceded him. But for that legacy to endure and for Biden's term not to simply be a moment in time, he needed to ensure that the United States actually closes the chapter on Donald Trump and to help make this more likely, he made the painful decision not to run for the presidency, which will also earn him a special place in the history books.
Joe Biden has felt that he has been underestimated all his life. Judging by his tenure in the White House, he's right.
Trump needs an enemy to attack to make his precedency seem worthwhile. Biden's focus was and is on improving the life and infrastructure of this country and connecting with NATO for the good of the world.What will the answer you get be? I suspect "Fareed is a political left-wing communist hack and everything he said was a lie."
When Trump was rated by people, who know stuff about these things and aren't partisan hacks, as the last president, he ranked 41 out of 45 (almost last)
When the same people ranked him after Biden became President, Trump ranked 43 out of 46 while Biden ranked 21 out of 46. For some odd reason, I believe the opinions of experts rather than the ones of very biased laypeople.
POINTS FROM HIS ESSAY
"President Reagan, Bush and Trump all enacted large tax cuts that broadly benefited the rich." - As I have shown in other hubs, all three led to a worse economy and a ballooning debt and deficit. (In trying to solve Reagan's error, Bush 1 lost reelection because, as a true, patriotic American, he put country over self by raising taxes a little.
"Biden changed this narrative. He used the resources of the federal government to make large investments in infrastructure, childcare, manufacturing, and energy. " - Said another way Biden invested in America rather in Trump and his rich friends.
Biden is responsible for "Moving a staggering 3.4 million children out of poverty in one year. The credit expired after a year and congressional Republicans refused to renew it." - I have to wonder if Republicans in their glee in overcoming what they called "fiscal irresponsibility" held celebration parties as those children drifted back into poverty.
" Summers added, "I don't think any administration has so outperformed the economic forecasts on the day that it came into office."" - Isn't Larry Summers the economist that Republicans love to quote? I bet they disavow all knowledge of that one. (Yes, I recently say Mission: Impossible)
"On that Biden was vulnerable because he had pandered too long to his left-wing allowing the system to collapse under the weight of millions of migrants arriving at the border and demanding the protections that come from seeking asylum. He finally adjusted. " - I guess by inference, Fareed means that he doesn't think that Biden shouldn't have trusted in the Constitution and try NOT to do things by Executive Order.I haven't heard from Ken since I posted Fareed's transcript. I don't think he wants to play in this arena anymore because I noticed he has gone to other threads.
No, I just don't care about what Fareed thinks or says.
He is just a CNN mouthpiece I wasn't interested in his opinion.
The effort to re-direct things back to Trump IS the problem...
"In order to save Democracy from Trump we must destroy Democracy, the institutions and laws which have bound together the nation for more than two centuries."
Doesn't work for me, needing to change how our election process works for a "pandemic" and then not changing them back when the "pandemic" is over... ... removing Supreme Court Justices because they do not hold the same ideology and beliefs those in power have... ... using the Court systems to jail your political opponent and all those who support him... all efforts to DESTROY Democracy, not protect it.
"So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause." -- Senator AmidalaOf course you don't. Even though he gives you facts they don't register with Biden-haters.
And did I just read that you think Supreme Court Justices should be picked because of their ideology and not because they will judge cases on their merits and the Constitution?
The rest of your comments are just projecting what Trump DID and wants to do on to a person you unreasonably hate.
About every time I read right-wing propaganda. Where do you think they get their anti-American ideas from?
Then you must think that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln are horrible presidents. I will give you that Biden didn't push for the 13th , 14th, and 15th Amendments, but he would have had he had the opportunity.
Pathological liar, felon, and sexual predator Trump (unless he could make money off of it) clearly would not have, assuming it had even occurred to him,
This review from IMBd is one reason I wouldn't watch such trash.
"What can I say that hasn't already been said. There really should be a law that prevents untruthful films from masquerading as a documentary. This is a propaganda film, pure and simple.
Perhaps the most perplexing aspect of t****'s cult supporters and as evidenced in this propaganda is that they all profess their love for Jesus. Do they even know what Jesus represents? Have they even read what Jesus said in the New Testament? But I've been down this road of query before. It's not a "gotcha" question because they have mastered hypocrisy with mental gymnastics. They actually believe that Jesus is like t****.
The only positive reviews are coming from the t**** cult base; the people who would still support their cult leader even if he shot someone (t****'s actual words, not mine!). It's really sad actually, that t**** and his kakistocracy has done so much irreparable damage to America. I hope his supporters will eventually reconcile with the lies and evil they supported.
I'll give t**** a gold metal for successfully employing the Goebbels playbook of repeating lies so often, they become the new truth (or alternative facts), and modeling Orwell's 1984's Doublespeak and Newspeak. This film attempts to reinforce previously debunked lies, insane conclusions, and illogical sources of truth."
The rest of the reviews were no better.
I read these comments and wonder why the conservatives never cite a source, but they sure write long.
They have no sources to cite, just opinions from the fantasy world.
You might find this interesting. Real Clear Politics went and to a look back at previous polling errors. It tracks what we sort of know using multi-state polling organizations. They looked at the polling error and whether or not it favored Dems or Reps;
2014: 11 out of 13 favored Dems by a lot., 2 out 13 favored Reps, and 1 - Reuters/Ipsos - was split 50-50.
2016: We all remember what happened then. 13 out of 16 favored Dems a lot, 2 favored Reps, and 1 – NBS/WSJ/Marist – split 50-50.
2018: The correction begins. 6 out of 13 favored Dems. 5 out 13 favored Reps, and 2 split 50-50 (different ones)
2020: 17 out of 20 favored Dems and 3 out 13 favored Reps.
2022: The “Red Wave”, 4 out of 17 favored Dems, 10 out of 13 favored Reps, while 2 split 50-50.
We will see how 2024 turns out, but I bet Biden would have won, just not as Harris is going to.Real Clear Politics revealed the polling error to determine whether or not it favored Dems or Reps;
2014: 11 out of 13 favored Dems, 2 out 13 favored Reps.
2016: 13 out of 16 favored Dems, 2 out of 16 favored Reps.
2018: 6 out of 13 favored Dems. 5 out 13 favored Reps.
2020: 17 out of 20 favored Dems and 3 out of 13 favored Reps.
2022: 4 out of 17 favored Dems, 10 out of 13 favored Reps.
Check it:
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tr … d-clinton/
You say, "We will see how 2024 turns out, but I bet Biden would have won,
just not as Harris is going to."
What makes you say that?"just not by as much as Harris is going to".
I say it because at the end of the day I firmly believe true Americans will not choose a pathological liar who lies have led to the deaths and physical /mental injury of many people, a serial felon who finally got caught, and a sexual predator back into office to complete his job of turning American into Russia, just warmer.
I accept, but understand, that some Americans want that kind of crook in office in the same way that I understand some Russians want Putin where he is and some North Koreans want Un there and many Germans once wanted Hitler in power.
The 538 results mimic my calculations (probably the other way around if the truth be known) because I came to the same conclusion - Clinton, for various reasons, some under her control and some not, lost the momentum going into election day and let a monster be elected to play at being president.
In my opinion, it was Hilary herself that brought Trump withing striking distance (for example, not following the advice of her husband) with the choices she made on how to conduct the campaign. Once there, all it took was a little help from James Comey (intentional or not) and Putin, which was intentional, that made the critical difference.
It is sad to know that MAGA will scream foul and try to send Whalen and Gershkovitch back on a plane to Russia.
BUT, everybody else is happy and proud of this great accomplishment (granted with the help of the Turks) from President Biden by drawing together the alliances and friendships he has built with world leaders to secure the release of so many political prisoners.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/pri … index.htmlNot only that, it seems that Vice President Harris was in the middle of the negotiations for the prisoner swap early in holding meetings with the German Chancellor and the Slovenian Prime Minister.
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/pri … 3fe1c57ec6
Two unyielding conservative opinions have gone missing on this discussion board in a month or so. What is going on?
You guys are just too much for 'them', I guess.
GA ;-)
Isn't this interesting. The average of the RCP for July ended with Trump up by 1.6 points. The first three polls in August have Harris up 2 points. I bet it only gets better.
Geez, ESO, is Trump so stupid and short sighted as to shoot himself in the head? It is pretty dumb to attack Governor Kemp, a Republican whose support he is going to need in a swing state.
Democrats are racing to remake Kamala Harris from real life Selina Meyer into the female Obama — and Donald Trump’s lack of discipline is letting them,” said a national Republican strategist who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “Every day Trump swipes at shiny objects — attacking the popular governor of a swing state, questioning the race of his opponent, or battling cat lady comments by his VP — is a day he is letting Harris define herself on her own terms.”That could be... or it could be the media is doing its best to make every negative story it can (as usual) about Trump.
I wonder how many Americans have gotten to the point where after so many years about hearing how Trump is worse than Hipster they reject the noise, tune it out, ignore it like you do a nagging parent that never shuts up.
Or it could be Trump doing this just so that every day he is in the news, every day he is being talked about, and every day the media takes the bait and proves his point about "fake news" and that they are out to get him.
Or it could be something else all together...Trump and company are playing to his base. That is all they know how to do. He is an one trick pony. He knows how to demean his opponents, but he has nothing new to add to his campaign to bring in swing voters.
He has Project 2025, but he has distanced himself from that as well. His founder of that project from the Heritage Foundation has left the building. He still has all his appeals for all the charges against him, but that clock is ticking too. He can continue to say that he won the election but that trick is getting old as well.It seems to me that Ken is so used to his propaganda outlets having a political agenda, e.g. Lying Fox News, News Max, OAN and the like, he projects onto main stream media the partisan bias we see on the right. With the possible exception of MSNBC, that is simply not true. (I don't watch MSNBC, so I can't judge, but I hear things.)
ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, BBC, NPR and the rest do a pretty fair job of REPORTING the news in a relatively unbiased manner. Other than "claiming" that is not true, no evidence can be offered to prove they are in practice institutionally biased like Lying Fox News is.
The fact is that just about everything Trump does is negative, and the MSM outlets do their job and report it. Because there is so little positive things that Trump does to report on, it gives an appearance of bias when none actually exists.
They use this huge imbalance in negative Trump news to positive Trump news to push the false narrative that the MSN is biased even though they, in truth, are not biased.
Ken, this is the stuff that TRump SAYS, and I will hold a man responsible for what he says. Everybody knows what he said regards to Governor Kemp at his rally in Atlanta, do you take issue with it? There is simply no room for conspiracy theories or spin here, like blaming the media for reporting every dumb thing Trump says.....
One more polls dropped since I wrote that, this one is +3. The average is now +2.3.
The fact that a pathological lying, felon, and sexual predatory is doing so well just shows the degree of how brainwashed he has make is MAGA followers.
"ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, BBC, NPR and the rest do a pretty fair job of REPORTING the news in a relatively unbiased manner. Other than "claiming" that is not true, no evidence can be offered to prove they are in practice institutionally biased like Lying Fox News is.
The fact is that just about everything Trump does is negative, and the MSM outlets do their job and report it. Because there is so little positive things that Trump does to report on, it gives an appearance of bias when none actually exists."
Thank you. Even after FOX has been legally punished for systematic lying, its followers still cling to its every word as if nothing has happened. Now that is a legitimate bias.
Being upset because reputable news outlets report the negative behavior that Trump inflicts daily and there is no democrat equivalent to report is also a legitimate bias.
Repeating the same complaints over and over and over again do not make them true.Thank you, I needed that.
Its little things like this that keep me coming back.
I love it.
Media Bias: Subtle (and Not So Subtle) Ways Journalists Slant the News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7voF2YTBeb8
The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34LGPIXvU5M
Manufacturing Consent Summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9dctUcTclY
Why 'this version of Biden' is best version of Biden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pb6xXuU5wM
Would you like to know how to get unbiased news?
When it comes to Politics and government actions (war, new laws, new executive orders) ALWAYS assume whatever is being put forth by the Main Stream Media is being put forth for propaganda purposes.
As for Social Media, well, I'm sure plenty of people have been banned for expressing an opinion or had a post censored. Information control, that's what its all about... all biased.
But let me leave something really worth considering:
Why Communism is Even Worse Than Fascism - Konstantin Kisin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Jgi6kC5j3MAnd you think listening to YouTube videos by conspiracy nuts is the way to go? ROFL.
At least now I understand who you come by your strange views.
They all make mistakes. Must have more than one source.
Its much more complicated than that.
In the past, the reasons to shelter or shape the information presented to Americans often had great intentions, the best purposes behind them.
To a much larger degree.
The 'bad' deceptions were often the effort of corporations, like the effort made decades ago to convince people there was nothing wrong with smoking cigarettes, in fact, they were healthy for you!
Deceptions today are deeper, no longer with the best of intentions, and perpetrated for the controlling government entities and personalities, that work on behest of those corporations and foreign interests that control the vast majority of the politicians and media sources in America today.
The cumulative and consistent lying and distraction efforts I think have largely led to a mass psychosis especially with many Americans.
How can an average mind withstand decades of onslaught, how can one look back at...
Weapons of Mass Destruction
The North American Free Trade Agreement will bring millions of jobs
Benghazi
Syria
Libya
Afghanistan... 20 years in and then we run away.
So we can refocus on Ukraine and Russia.
Covid... how could I forget that mass media barrage?
Those are just some of the big lies, the day to day lies and fabrications...
The problem is not which media sources are biased and which ones are not... they all are... they all support and echo the lies put forth by the State, they are out to destroy any threat to the transformation they are bringing to America.
But it is not just America, these efforts of 'change' can be seen in Ireland, France, Canada, etc.There are just too many competing interests for what you say to be true to the extent you believe it is. You are effectively trying to make the case that there is just one Wizard of Oz behind the curtain pulling all the levers making you and all other people on the planet dance around like puppets on a string.
Not exactly a one Wizard of Oz...
Take a look at how the transition from Biden to Harris went, even though it is in violation of laws and the Constitution on how such a matter is to be handled... lock step... every True Blue card carrying member of the Party got behind the switch to Harris or they got wrecked.
Now if you said Collaborative Effort... the collective of people whose actions could be described as Wizard of Oz, or Establishment, or Ideology.
The problem is, as far as I can tell, is those in control of the Democrat Party are pursuing goals and agendas set for them 20... 30+ years ago. If...
If you believe in any of the 'conspiracy theories' put forth, like the one from Yuri Bezmenov:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI
Or the Globalist/WEF/UN focus on Climate Change, Borderless World, under a more feminine leadership model (feelings over facts).
Other than potentially instigating a Nuclear War which devastates civilization, the biggest likelihood that within the next 12-24 months we are taking orders from AI is the biggest threat we have... a far more serious threat than Trump could be.
One crazy potential disaster to deal with at a time I guess... first we need to survive Biden and his effort to start WWIII.What laws and where in the Constitution? When you make stuff up like that, why do you expect anyone to believe anything you say (unless you are taking the Goebbels approach and telling a lie so often, a few naive people will believe you)?
Well, at least you admitted that Trump is a threat. The AI threat is potential, the Trump threat is already making inroads into destroying our democracy.I see Ken doesn't know which laws were broken?
There is no better source for information in the States right now than Youtube, unless its newsflash information, then go to X.
You won't find information like this coming from CNN:
U.S. Dollar Becoming an ‘Unhinged Paper Currency’? ‘It’s Worst It’s Ever Been!’ – Art Laffer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnvXRxejwVI
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