Im a Christian and not married legally...But in God's eyes I am..Do you think it

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ImAllEarsposted 12 years ago
Im a Christian and not married legally...But in God's eyes I am..Do you think its acceptable?

If yes than thankyou we do to but are still getting married in the eyes of the law. If No my question is Who married adam and eve?
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lburmasterposted 12 years ago
Try not to think that God see's you as married. Just think of yourself as in a serious relationship. It is easier and doesn't cause as many problems for the relationship. Does your boyfriend think of you two as married? It takes two to have a marriage union. As a couple that is dating or engaged, you two are bound to each other by those simple words of who you are two each other. (Something modern teenagers don't understand or just forget for their own gain.)
Remember that God says to follow the laws of man. He says to pay taxes, he says a man cannot lay in bed with another man (but what of two girls?), he turned water into wine (so we can drink that and get drunk). Etc. Focus on what he says about the situation. The main point is to "follow the laws of man".
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  God laws supersedes man's laws. Rm 13:1. HOLY & in the Lord I Cor 7:39 is what Scripture says!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Were that true, he'd be doing more law enforcement. But he doesn't so just do the right thing and listen to your heart rather than a piece of mistranslated literature.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Why should He? He's given instructions! ALL sinners have "free will!" If not fm Scripture. not "the right thing!"
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kate-olsonposted 12 years ago
I don't understand what you mean by being married only "in God's eyes." Do you mean that you had some kind of religious wedding ceremony and took wedding vows but didn't sign the paperwork?

Or are you having sex, or living together, and are currently unwed? I think in your heart, you know the answer to your question.

Also, there's a word for being in a serious, committed relationship that has a wedding date in sight: Engaged.

I realize that I am sounding really harsh in this answer. I don't mean to condemn and I'm actually an accepting person. If I knew you in person, I'd be your friend, and I wouldn't offer an opinion on your relationship status unless you asked for it. If you're really looking for guidance, go to the Bible. As far as I know, God doesn't have a Hubpages account! : D
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Agreed! The Scripture is "harsh" especially if one desires to continue in sin! But Gal 6:1 told us to "..restore such an one in the spirit of meekness, considering thyself.." Yes, we have all "fallen short," but the Bible gives instructions for ma
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Why would you seek to give advice from the Bible to a young person. It has nothing to do with the world they live in. Real counsel should be based on experience. If you have none, don't give it.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: I haven't "always" been "in Christ!" Abstain fm sex before marriage is what young people should be taught!
  
  Would u want ur daughter to live as you believe? Shack up before marriage? What happened to morals/values even if "unbeliever?"
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  Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  NORINE . People have always gotten married.
  Mt 24:38 For as they were in those days before the Flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  K&T: Was it "in the LORD?" If not, no marriage in the sight to GOD! However, the LORD knows who's "in the Lord, or not. Not us!
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ImAllEarsposted 12 years ago
Thankyou both for your answers:
Kate: I am currently unwed living with and have sex with my partner i am happily engaged and have been with my partner for 7 years. We are planning to get married in 2013. I just wanted to know what people's view were on the subject.
We have looked at the Bible and are happy for what God has planned for us...
I didnt needed guidence i just wanted to know people's views and used myself as i'm in that situation. I hope i have cleared that up

iburmaster: As written we are in a serious relationship and us thinking that we are married in the eyes of God cause No problems to the relationship.But thanks for the comments.

Thanks again for all comments
May God bless you.

In Christ,
Rachel
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  fortressrainbowposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I hope you do both pray and repent, because living together without getting married is a sin, and I know you know that. Using in the eyes of God, will never save you from sinning. But I am so glad you are getting married. Christian should abide God
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Marriage was intended to be HOLY - IN THE LORD! Otherwise; just a piece of paper to sin!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Rock on, Rachel. Telling these Bible thumping hypocrites that you were living with your partner and having sex with him before marriage is called living in the 21st century. Waiting for marriage before having sex is being a gambler beyond reason.
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  gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  cperuzzi, RIGHT ON, so what, nothing's wrong with the arrangement.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP & GM: "We shall KNOW THEM by their FRUIT!" (Matt 7:15-16)!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Serious, that is the stupidest thing I've read... And that's saying something. "Fruit" of good people who have a happy healthy sex life comprise of pretty much everyone born in the 21st century. Spouses who can't satisfy the other are bad.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  "..having sex with him before marriage is called living in the 21st century. Waiting for marriage before having sex is being a gambler beyond reason." Living in the 21st century has NOTHING to do w/what is WRITTEN in His Word! If GOD joined together
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  And that's why the culture made a millennia ago doesn't work well today.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Spiritually speaking "nothing has changed!" My GOD (Jesus Christ) is the same yesterday, today, & forever (Heb 13:8)! Ecc 1:9 says ""...there is no new thing under the sun." Unless "material" but we're talking "Marriage" which is "Spiritual!"
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  snapcracklepopposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  You should be more concerned about what God has to say about a person living in sin without the benefit of marriage IAllEars....man and woman living together, or same-sex gender living together is detestable in God's eyes.
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CalebSparksposted 12 years ago
Your attitude in asking this question clearly shows that you are really not interested in what is truly right or wrong about your relationship. You have already made up your mind that your behavior is acceptable to God and therefore have made YOURSELF the standard for what is right. How can you know or care what God thinks about something if you yourself decides beforehand that it is right or wrong?

The term "Christian" means "Christ-like." For the sake of Christ's name, please do not identify yourself as a Christian if you are determined to live in disobedience to God's Word. Please realize your sin and obey the Scriptures in this matter.
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  gmwilliamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Caleb, PLEASE LET IT GO. It's NONE of YOUR BUSINESS!
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  LoisRyan13903posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Very judgmental of you Caleb. As far as I am concerned she is married in God's eyes. I know this is an old post
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  GM: It is a Disciple's business says Scripture! Gal 6:1!
  
  Lois: The WORD judges not we ourselves! Your "concern" is irrelevant for God's laws supersedes man's laws and their "concern!"
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MickSposted 12 years ago
Yes, marriage is only for the pupose of society, I believe the Holy Bible has a passage that reads along the lines, 'if a man and woman lay together they are married in the eyes of God.'
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  gmwilliamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  This is an excellent answer, why is this answer NEGATIVE. It is ONE of the most POSITIVE answers!
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  EphremHagosposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I dare you to produce the source.
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  fortressrainbowposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  what verse? Can you support it by giving us the verse, I don't think that is true. Because laying with a woman who is not your wife is detestable to God. From Genesis to Revelation, that is God's command.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Scripture "produces the source" in I Cor 6:16! "Detestable" is Correct in the sight of God! Make sure "GOD has joined it together" not u yourself with motives, ie, looks, sex, status, money, etc!
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  Rich kelleyposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Deu 22:28-29 the end says..... "she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days."
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Rich: Do u live under these 613+ laws (Old Cov)? They've been FULFILLED! Read I Cor 7:39 (2nd Marriage) "...ONLY IN THE LORD." 1st 1 NOT?
  
  If NOT brought over Under NEW COVENANT (spoken on "After the Cross")=FULFILLED! Why dispensations matter!
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  Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  The problem with that is how many times will he lay with different women.
  He can not be married to them all.
  And we know people lay with people just to do it not to commit.
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jasper420posted 12 years ago
Being married is a symbolsim in my opinon you dont need a ring and certificate to show loves authenticy god knows what is real and what isnt this is between you and god no one esle has the right to judge not even me wish i could be more helpfull
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  gmwilliamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Another good answer, WHY ARE PEOPLE VOTING THIS DOWN? This is the 21st century, people. Marriage is in the heart!
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Jas: So marriage is "symbolic?" Not according to Scripture! Marriages & weddings are in Scripture. Didn't Jesus turn water into wine at a wedding (His 1st miracle)? Why bcuz marriage was intended to b as Christ is to the Chruch-HOLY-& IN HIM
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Deborah Sextonposted 12 years ago
You have to go by the laws where you live before God sees you as married.

He said to render to Cesar, what is Cesar's

They had wedding ceremonies before Yahshua (Jesus)

The way we think about something doesn't make it right or wrong.

Except in Paul's eyes
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  aggelonfteraposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  what if the place we live, the laws are immoral. God wants us to be married in his eyes, and although he said man should witness it, but I don't think evil. I read on a long article once, I wish I can find it, it made my hair stand in the air
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  Eazy_Eposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Marriage in a states purpose is just union for taxing and census purpose. The word MARRIAGE isn't necessarily the same connotation as held in the bible. Like she mentioned in her original post, who married Adam to Eve or Sara and Abraham. God did.
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  EphremHagosposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  What is "Caesar's" and "God's" are mutually exclusive! Paul who?
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  No! U have to marry according to Scripture - HOLY - ONLY IN THE LORD! God's laws supersedes man's laws!
  
  Paul was saying PRECISELY what Jesus told him to say! God "wrote His laws (Jer 31:33; Heb 8:10;10:16) in his heart & mind!"
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CJ Sledgehammerposted 12 years ago
It is an interesting question that you pose.

Now, I have a question for you. How can you be certain that God sees you as being married? I do not know the particulars of your "marital" relationship so I cannot say for sure, but I make it a general rule not to think for God or say that He sees something this way or that.

I know nothing of your relationship with your "husband" or the vows you have taken before God. But, what makes you think your relationship is acceptable to God? Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Please advise.

I ask this because many "Christians" tell themselves they are married in God's eyes just so they can justify having sex before their wedding. They may be able to fool themselves, but God is not fooled nor is He mocked.

The Almighty knows what you are thinking and why you do what you do. One may be able to convince themselves, but lying to God is pointless. I do not know the circumstances surrounding your "marriage" before God, so I'm flying blind here, and can only respond in generalities.

Having said all that, I have a problem with the States who issue marriage licenses. How can they issue a marriage license if they do not know what marriage is? They will let anything get married these days and will allow anyone to get divorced without proper cause.

So, on that note, I would be tempted to consider marrying a woman (hypothetically) without the consent of the State. Marriage is a Holy institution given to mankind by God to be conducted within a proper context, but the State has no idea what they are doing and have lost their moral compass, providing they ever had one.

Another question I have for you, is if you are married in God's eyes, why go through the formalities and great expense of getting married in the eyes of the law? It just seems to me that there is more to this story than meets the eye.
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  aggelonfteraposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly!! why marry in the eyes of the law when it is evil as you said C J The law has made a mess with their immoraltiy & I think God may say, if your married in a church & the witnesses, what do you want the immoral US law involved for?
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  Eazy_Eposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Look the other way. What's to say God accepts a marriage that was done in the eyes of human law and even Church? It's a leap of faith and an honest covenant that has to be made with God, followed by years of proving each other's love.
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  EphremHagosposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It is at least less pretentious, and definitely less "evil and godless", than marrying according to church law.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  People can say they are married, but not if not according to how God intended and/or established it! HOLY - ONLY IN THE LORD!
  
  If not IN THE LORD, we're DEAD in our transgressions & sins! How can one "vow" to God if DEAD?
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exphoebeposted 11 years ago
Marriage is only a legal contract. Relationships should not have to be sanctioned by anyone whether man or gods. There is no proof that Adam and Eve even existed. The earth is more than 6000 years old and humans have inhabited the earth much longer than the Bible claims.
Too often people make others business their own. It is your choice whether or not you should get married. There is nothing wrong with testing the waters with someone before agreeing to a lifelong contract. Good luck to you!
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  Eazy_Eposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  She is asking from a Christian point of view so we should all have the courtesy to answer with the assumption that, in this situation, the bible is fact. As for your point, I agree, too often we look to society rather than self-acceptance.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Eric: I disagree! "Too often we look @ society rather than" THE SCRIPTURES!
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  Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Then Lois you would be pretty annoyed
  because it sounds like nonesense to you. That is why Atheist have the same reaction. Not surprised they speak their own language of what they believe. The problem is they attack you for the same right they have.
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  K&T: They've HEARD Word whether they BELIEVE or not. MAYBE 1 days they'll "search the Scriptures to see if these thgs are so" (Acts 17:11) as with others!
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lone77starposted 11 years ago
Of course it is.

It does seem that you are biased in your question. That in itself shows a willfulness that has ego written all over it. If only your question had been more humble...

God's law is always the most important. In the Bible, it doesn't condemn premarital sex between two unmarried adults. It only says that the man has to marry the woman. He can't go sleeping around; by his act of sex, he has committed himself to the woman. The thing is, he needs to live up to that.

Getting married by the "law of the land" is only a secular formality.

In the Philippines, where I currently live, people frequently commit themselves to each other, but cannot afford to pay for a formal wedding. Many of these families thrive with lots of children and lifelong devotion. Some do not. In a land where divorce is illegal, things seem to work fairly well.

Who married Adam and Eve? They did, of course. They were committed to one another. That's all it takes.

Bless you. But let go of defensive ego. You don't need it.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  "In the Bible, it doesn't condemn premarital sex between two unmarried adults."
  What Bible are u reading? What is your definition of a fornicator?
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gmwilliamsposted 10 years ago

Totally agree. Marriage is in the heart not a piece of paper. Many people who live together have truer, more loving, and more respectful relationships than those who are conventionally married. Many use that conventionality as an excuse. They are not loving nor respectful towards each other. They marry for appearance sake.
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  LoisRyan13903posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Like your answer
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  The WORLD does like this answer! But this is not according to Scripture!
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  One must NOT believe Scripture to agree with this response!
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  LoisRyan13903posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  NW Married is the eyes of God way diff than a piece of paper. And yes do know scripture, but don't go around quoting left and right
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I BELIEVE WORD!
  I Cor 7:39 says "ONLY in the LORD" of second marriage!
  How much more the first?
  Why don't y'all READ what WORD says before attacking me because WORD goes against your "belief" and/or "lifestyle?"
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  Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Lois in general when a christain comments on spiritual things they really are talking to other people that share the same experience. The same language. IT would be annoying if you spoke in english.and I was speaking to you in Chinese with a quotes
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  K&T: Do u believe I Cor 7:39 "...only in the Lord" or you only trying to defame since (as you say) "Didn't give in "love?"
  
  Remember: TRUTH is "LOVE" no matter how presented!
  
  I know u "sneaky......."
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  LoisRyan13903posted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I believe word to, but I still tell a non-believer that she has a good ans. "Marriage is in the heart not a piece of paper. "
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  Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Lois is correct example there are customs where people marry off their children before they reach maturity mentally and physically.
  In such case it is basically binding by paper not of the heart of a developed relationship of the two married.
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Lois: No u don't blv WORD r u would blv I Cor 7:39 "...ONLY n the LORD!" 2nd - Why not 1st? Then u say "heart" which is TOTALLY against I Cor 7:39! ANYONE'S (same sex 2) "heart" can b n "obtaining a license to sin!"
  K&T: U need to "STUDY!"
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Lybrahposted 10 years ago
As long as God recognizes your marriage, you're fine. But you might want to get it legally official for tax purposes such as owning a house or health insurance coverage.

I think God married Adam and Eve. I assume He did. It does not say in the bible whether they actually had a wedding, though at the time, only God was present. No witnesses were needed.
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  EphremHagosposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Ideally, God sanctions marriages by bonding spouses in his indivisible image of divinity.
  When this is disobeyed, legalization is Plan-B for the purpose of protection of the wife's rights. (Matt. 19: 1-12)
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  fortressrainbowposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  That was before, but God already give Authority to certain people to conduct a wedding ceremony. And living together without "marrying" is abomination to God. There is no other people to marry eve and adam.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Fort: "God has NOT given Authority to certain ppl to conduct a wedding ceremony" unless "conducter" & couple are "IN THE LORD!"
  
  We can't do it! We've "strayed" too far! Original "MARRIAGE" was SINLESS/HOLY/IN THE LORD, His Orig intent!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  A tax break couldn't hurt. Then again, if you're in a common-in-law state and cohabitate, you're already married. So call an accountant.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: Being an "unbeliever" yes, it would give you a "tax break!" But "what does it prosper a man to gain the whole world & loose his soul?" (Mk 8:36) How would "an accountant" help then?
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manatita44posted 10 years ago
Your question indicates inner conflict and some other stuff also. Please forgive me.
My own view point is that if you want to get married and your partner is willing, then do so. I note a reference to the legal side and I dare say that there are some other angles too, but this is not my area.

From the spiritual standpoint, Paul encourages you to marry as it hopefully will lead to a life of self-control. At a certain stage of this earthly sojourn, purity is essential and paramount. But we are not all made for this and so a life of marriage or one partner, will hopefully encourage a slow and steady approach to the sensual life and avoid promiscuity.

There are also so may other reasons for marriage, I know. Here I wish to stay with the spiritual angle. Purity is the life-breath of God and will attract the divine Light through interior and exterior prayer. Christianity or no Christianity, the spiritual life will urge you to go higher at some point and a degree of self-control will be necessary for your inner vessel to hold the inner Light.

Do not worry right now. A slow and steady approach is what's needed for many until one feels ready or blessed by the Divine.
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  EphremHagosposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I agree on ONE CONDITION, viz.: both partners share mutually the "image of God"as indivisible bond for their marriage whatever the odds. Otherwise, it makes no difference.
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  manatita44posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It helps, Ephrem, but ultimately we all travel alone, and each will be held accountable for his/her own actions.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It makes a diff! If 2nd marriage should ONLY BE IN THE LORD don't you think the first one should be moreso? I Cor 7:39 "...ONLY IN THE LORD."
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Eva Wapnerposted 10 years ago
I'm an officiant who is currently writing a ceremony for a same sex couple where one bride is Catholic and the other is non-denominational Christian and stumbled on this.

Personally I'm an atheist, so my answer to this is one people here are neither going to agree with or like but here it goes.

First off, I don't know what you mean by "but in God's eyes I am". The way I understand it in order to be married in God's eyes you need to have a ceremony performed in a church by a priest. That's not something I agree with, but I'm talking about Christian rules, not my own.

Now, it seems to me that I come across this sort of thing when talking to Christians all the time. Christians generally know what is or isn't against the rules of their bible or what is technically deemed acceptable for that religion. But it seems most cannot follow those rules to the letter. So in their own heads they justify their behavior by reinterpreting some part of what is written in the bible to fit their own personal needs. They do this for themselves but then don't extend the right to do that to those around them, particularly to those who aren't Christian at all. This gives Christians the ability to remain Christian in their own head, to live their own personal life the way they see fit despite the fact that they break the rules of Christianity, and at the same time maintain the ability to judge others for breaking other rules of Christianity that they happen to agree with.

It's probably now a moot point, because you're probably already married legally.

I personally don't think you were doing anything wrong. But I do think you broke the rules of your own faith and then justified doing that in your own head.
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  rashellynnposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sorry you have this view on Christians. However, Christians do not claim to be perfect. NO ONE is perfect. We only want to lead others to Christ because he loves us and you. I felt led to share this with you.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Eva is right! It's called "itching ears" in Scripture (II Tim 4:3). When TRUTH is told, "Christians" do NOT want to hear if it affects there lifestyle! See how "Atheist" perceive us? We should be "ON ONE ACCORD!"
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Being an Atheist is the ONLY justification for performing a same-sex marriage. Do you find any of these in Scripture?
  
  You will be held accountable!
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Eazy_Eposted 10 years ago
I second the tax purposes as incentive, however, to answer your question it depends. Different denominations have different views on the issues of marriage; Catholic, Orthodox, and even Lutheran faiths believe that marriage is a Holy Sacrament. For a marriage to be truly official in the eyes of God means it has to be official by the eyes of the Church. Church and God are inseparable in these denominations.

As for other protestant based faith groups, ones faith is more personal. A marriage between you and your love can be official if pronounced in the eyes of God. As only through prayer and a personal relationship with God is your salvation possible. Holt works or sacraments aren't outlawed but hold a more symbolic nature in these such churches.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I ask, How can a marriage be "Holy" if couple doesn't KNOW Him? Were we not DEAD in our transgressions & sins?" Eph 2:1 Col 2:13?
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feliciaelaine88posted 10 years ago
Who are u to say u are in gods eyes? If this was the case marriage would be not be relevant get married otherwise you are fornicating and diobeying god
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  Yousif Mohammedposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  this is the best answer
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  mothersofnationsposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I disagree. She never said she was "fornicating". Not a nice assumption. You can be in a relationship without having sex. No where in the question did she imply otherwise. God bless you.
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  EphremHagosposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Since no known marriages today are "Made in Heaven", i.e., in God's image (as in the beginning), who is not disobeying God and fornicating too?
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  EH: We all are if not "IN THE LORD!" Didn't God estab it this way? Were not both Adam & Eve sinless, Holy, & "in the Lord?" There's our example! Did Script not say "...we WERE as some of these..?" I Cor 6:11Marriage is ONLY recog by God if
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fridaysamdy12posted 10 years ago
i am not happy that you are not yet married at this age, Lol is so confusing
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  "Age" doesn't matter! Being "in the Lord" is the ONLY thing that matters. Otherwise, one has only acquired a "license to sin!" For Scripture says marriage should be Holy & "only in the Lord!" I Cor 7:39. 2nd & 1st MORESO!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It really doesn't matter what you think. It only really matters what she thinks. Stay confused.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: How can we have a discussion when u don't blv? "Marriage" is a Spiritual union for blvrs "In the LORD!"
  
  It doesn't matter what I or anyone else thinks, just what is written in His Word!
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cebutouristspotposted 10 years ago
I always view marriage as a piece of paper that will cause a lot of problems when things dont work out .

But this is coming from a person who is happily married for 8 years and still going strong
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I Agree if "WE" have joined ourselves together w/a spouse vs GOD joining us together! God intended "Marriage to be HOLY and IN HIM!
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Oztinatoposted 10 years ago
God only judges by the love we have in our heart. Many married people have little or no love in their heart. If you have love in your heart you are in the right.
I am a believer.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  A believer in what? If God estab marriage, who are we to argue?
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  gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly, what is in the heart is more important than outer appearance. She IS MARRIED in the eyes of God. God is beyond petty legalities and rules. This is really a nonissue. LIVE AND LET LIVE I SAY!
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  GM: Study Scripture! Marriage is as "Christ is to be Church!" Christ=Holy; THE Church=Holy (not church)! If not HOLY, not a marriage! This is an ISSUE for none is ALIVE unless "IN THE LORD!" SPIRITUAL!
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  EphremHagosposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  We are judged by our knowledge or ignorance of the image of God's self-revelation, a.k.a., "source of life", which is the tested basis of faith defined in Christ's death on the cross. (John 19: 34-37)
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Eph: But once 1 comes into the "knowledge" of His Word, no more excuses (Heb 10:26)!
  
  I'm telling ALL what Scripture says (I Cor 7:39) "ONLY IN THE LORD" is a Marriage recognized in the sight of GOD otherwise were DEAD (Eph 2:1)!
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  LydiaAvilaposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  I agree..love in heart and for the man you are with.
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lostohanababyposted 10 years ago
God loves you. He allows certain circumstances in your life, but that doesn't mean he 'accepts' 'living-together' as 'right' in his eyes. I have that unsure feeling too, I have marriage like relationship at the moment, but not married by state law or am I joined in a legal marriage in the eyes of God. Live your life. When the right time comes, and you can get married, you will. Talk to God, I'm sure he understands what's going on in your life at this time!
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Lost: Let's continue to "appease" each other in our sins! U know what's "pleasing in the sight of GOD" but tell one to continue in SIN? UnScriptural!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  If the "abstinence till marriage" camp are so God worthy, then why are most of them so miserable? Most are sexually incompatible, frigid, or might suffer from ED. Don't buy a car without kicking the wheels. Don't marry without premarital sex.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: "Prove" "..most of them so miserable..sexually incompatible, frigid or suffer fm ED!"
  
  "A car" is materialistic! Marriage is Spiritual! Fornication is "sinning against one's own body" & will not inherit the Kingdom of God!
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bstiltner77posted 10 years ago
In my humble opinion it really doesn't matter what I believe to be "Acceptable". This is a matter of great significance and one which should not be viewed from merely a preferential perspective. (i.e. what I think or agree with, etc) In regards to the sub comment..."Who married Adam and Eve?" , I think we would do well not to justify potentially sinful behavior on the basis of an incomparable scenario. In other words, clearly God established and agreed with the relationship between Adam and Eve and it was a scenario which could never be fully duplicated. However, the principles underlying the relationship with Adam and Eve can and should be duplicated and for the minutia in between God has provided us with a pretty helpful book to assist us in making God honoring and beneficial decision.

Here are just a few helpful passages, taken mostly from 1st Corinthians, to consider when dealing with this and other question regarding Christian living.

* Is this action going to be helpful in my life? - 1 Cor 6:12, 10:23
* Is this action going to potentially enslave me? - 1 Cor 6:12
* How will this action affect others who may be looking to me for direction in life? - 1 Cor 8:13, 1 Cor 10:24,32
* How will this action affect my ability to rightly reflect the Gospel in my life? - 1 Cor 9:12, 19-23 1 Cor 10:32-33
* Will engaging in this action be a violation of conscience? - 1 Cor 10:25-29
* Will this action reflect a healthy honor towards my body which ultimately belongs to God? - 1 Cor 6:19-20
* Will this action glorify God? - 1 Cor 10:31
* How will this action be viewed in the eyes of the law which i am told by Scripture to submit to? - 1 Peter 2, Romans 13

All For Him!
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Amen! But one MUST "marry" according to what God established Holy/sinless (as Adam & Eve's) and "only in the Lord!" I Cor 7:39. Second & first most importantly! We were DEAD in our "sins" Eph 2:1;Col2:13 so how could one marry according t
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  Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Dear Norine when Noah family was saved by God's hand that was his divine actions.
  They lived .
  The name of Jesus was not at work then.
  So marriage was still honorable. If not they would have died in the flood.
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  K&T: U defy Scripture AGAIN! Why did Jesus LIE & said "Give me the GLORY I had w/You BEFORE the world was if "He was not in existence" ("One Spirit")Jn 17:5? Why do u cont to LIE on JESUS? Marriage was honorable w/Noah & family for they K
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  Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Dear Norine where is Jesus name in the old testement.
  Michael is Jesus Heavenly name but you deny that.
  Have a nice day Norine and let there be peace.
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  K&T By ur own admission JEHOVAH=IS/WAS/IS TO COME; There's JESUS or "I AM" who is "ONE SPIRIT" (Eph 4:4-6)! U looking for Word Jesus then u cont to look "carnally" when it's ALL Spiritual!
  Jn 4:24 or U r LOST!
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  dianetrotterposted 7 years agoin reply to this
  Amen! God, Himself, officiated over Adam and Eve's marriage ceremony. The very passage, "For this reason, a woman shall" is the ceremony.
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Lea Childposted 10 years ago
No. Who married Adam and Eve? In Genesis 2:24 it says, "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." I have always understood this to mean that at this point, God married Adam and Eve. They didn't have taxes to worry about or licenses to fill out, but marriage is a sacred act and sexual relations outside of marriage are not condoned by God. He would not have left Adam and Eve unmarried. Remember, God's law came first then man's law.
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  mothersofnationsposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Well said!
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  EphremHagosposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Agree! By God's law of INDIVISIBLE UNITY, the first marriage was "Made In Heaven", i.e., in the image of God, a.k.a., "life-giving breath", prophetically pouring out from "the tree of life", or the cross of Christ (Gen. 2: 7-25). Back to square one!
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  Rosualdo Ponceposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  you hit the target!
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  Team Wisemanposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Very good answer!
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  LC: Yes, "God's law first.." Marriage was estab by God - HOLY, sinless, and ONLY IN THE LORD!" We were DEAD in our sins before Christ! How can one marry DEAD and if NOT "IN THE LORD?"
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  NehaAshposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  You are absolutely right. I am agree with you.
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  Perspycaciousposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  I believe in marriage by one having the priesthood authority to seal a man and a woman for time and all eternity, if they will keep God's commandments including their covenants at marriage.
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Demas: What r u saying="I believe in marriage by one having the "priesthood authority" (overrules GOD'S WORD?) to seal a man and a woman for time and all eternity..."
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kndashy41posted 10 years ago
The institution of marriage is a man-made endeavor created to control women and their inherited wealth and to allow a man to keep track of his offspring so he can be sure they belong to him and not some other dude. As far as God recognizing a union is concerned, all you have to do is exchange vows with your significant other, invoking the name of God. Ceremonies like this can be practiced in the privacy of one's own home with no religious representative required. That's how I see it.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Look again! Not "man-made" but estab by God! God does not "recognize a union.." when DEAD in sins! Eph 2:1; Col 2:13. One must "Marry" "...only in the LORD." I Cor 7:39
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  gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Dana, good point...
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  GM: "Good point" if a "non-believer!"
  
  DA: One can't"invoke the name of God" if DEAD! Eph 2:1; Col 2:13! Just bcuz 1 is breathing doesnt mean they're ALIVE in the sight of God! Marriage is "Spiritual" as "CHRIST is to THE CHURCH" both HOLY/SPIR
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Marriage is a civil ceremony to establish the legal status of two persons.
  Holy Union is something you can attribute to your god or what/whoever you like,
  A couple can be married without any reference to a belief system.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Alan: ANYONE (same sex too) can "obtain a license to sin" although "married" in the sight of "man," NOT IN THE SIGHT OF GOD!
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EphremHagosposted 10 years ago
If you are a Christian, I doubt that your marriage of convenience is Made In Heaven.
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  SteveWilson79posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I bet it makes no difference.
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  EphremHagosposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  For the difference, see the perfect ROLE MODEL of indivisible marriage between Adam and Eve based on the mutually shared "image of God", a.k.a., God's life-giving breath, or the Holy Spirit which is misplaced today away from the "tree of life".
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Steve: It makes "no difference" if an "unbeliever!" For one is DEAD (spiritually) in the sight of God if "unbeliever!" Marriage is a spiritual union! So how can one marry if DEAD?
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  That opinion is quite impossible to validate.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Chris: Really? Read Eph 2:1!
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SteveWilson79posted 10 years ago
The whole thing is completely irrelevant. You can do whatever you like with each other and there will be no judgement on either of you. Don't let religious dogma make you feel guilty about being in love. It's fine. Really.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, "Really" what the WORLD loves to hear.
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Absolutely. A marriage is what you and your partner make it.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: We (society) have moved so far from truth that "ANYTHING GOES!" Abortions, same sex marriages, so why not have a "trial run" before marriage? It's "what you & your partner make it!" But have you heard of the word "fornication?" SAD!
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Cordelia Bayposted 10 years ago
It is amazing how many lies and deceptions we tell our self when we want something to be real or true!Jesus turned the water to wine at a wedding, I would say that this is an example that would say God acknowledge a marriage. But, to say one is married with no wedding or documentation; I do not believe this to be true.
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  mothersofnationsposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I disagree - marriage is about committment, not paper. When you & your partner have vowed this committment through covenant with one another before God, this is the 1st step to a spiritual marriage. Paper finalizes it leaglly but God is above law
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  Cordelia Bayposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, God is above the law, but that does not entitle one to break the law. As seeking God's approval one must not deceive ones self to make things fit into one's own perspective. The paper give legal claim to keep what is built together. Seriously?
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  fortressrainbowposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I do agree! Paper is not just papers, but Jesus is looking how pure our love to bring our love ones in front of Him with all obedience and not justifying our wrong wicked mindset.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  There's NO marriage if NOT IN THE LORD! How can we marry if we are DEAD in our transgressions & sins?
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  Shyron E Shenkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Cordelia, who would the wedding and documentation be for? Certainly not for the couple.
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authenticphaseposted 10 years ago
get marry!! vows will be bound in heaven
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Only if one is "IN THE LORD!" How can one "vow" to God or anyone if DEAD?
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spanishchickenposted 10 years ago
The real question is, do you think being married in the eyes of God is acceptable? If you do, then why question it? Being married is about commitment to another person. It's about being so completely and utterly in love with someone, that you choose to give them the power to break and heal your heart for the rest of your life. God gave us the power to choose our mates, and as long as you are committed to your partner, and they to you, you have a right to start your life together. That being said, I do suggest you get married under the law, at least for tax, healthcare, and other rights. Congratulations on your marriage. May you both have a long and happy life together.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Scripture says "What GOD has joined together..." not we ourselves. He did not give "us" the power to marry! We were DEAD prior to being IN CHRIST, if we married not being "in the Lord" God didn't "join" we did!
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Jennifer Bartposted 10 years ago
I am not god so I cant answer that. Within the relationship I have with god the answer is yes, because for me a marriage is a spiritual affair between me my god and the person I love not something the courts have any reason to be involved in.
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  fortressrainbowposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It's not about the court, but it is all about God's rule and standard when it comes to marriage. The couple who obey his commands at the present times are will be blessed, the rest is punishment.We can't justify our own thinking. Bible reading.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Jen: We must obey the laws of the land so says Scripture! I Agree that "marriage is a spiritual affair" as God estab it in Genesis. Since spiritual, we must be IN THE LORD to be a candidate for marriage otherwise we're DEAD in our sins-No Marriag!
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Raine Law Yuenposted 10 years ago
If 50 percent of marriages end in divorce - I wonder which is then the greater evil - to live with someone happily but not married or to marry someone and live in misery?
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  EphremHagosposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  The greatest evil is the absence of revealed and mutually shared knowledge of God by the spouses as given in the kind of death Jesus suffered!
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  It's better to marry than to burn! I Cor 7:9.
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  Kiss andTalesposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Then you overide Gods law with your own. Also the words fornication , pornea, adulty, would have no point of use or meaning, they exist when you overide the laws of God who created the marriege bond. there is a difference.
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  If "GOD didn't join together" (ICor7:39; "only in the LORD") it doesn't matter anyway still going to HELL!
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Ovonol1posted 10 years ago
In God eyes ,you are marry until you get marry according to the law of God that was reveal to his messengers.All you are doing now is fornicating with is a sin.
But does !marriage have it's original meaning anymore?
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  NO! We "join ourselves together" rather than allowing "GOD to join us together" which is UNHOLY & not recognized by God!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Would that I could decipher that message, I'm certain I could comment on it.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: Read Matthew 19:6 & Mark 10:9 then you will understand!
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JThomp42posted 10 years ago
Believe it or not, almost all Christian traditions, and even Jews, accept God the Father as the first "marriage celebrant". There were no other people on the earth to organize an official service with music and the Hokey Pokey at the reception. But, in reality, Adam and Eve had the coolest "wedding" of them all. Here’s why… God wed them through the creation of Eve – she is physically part of Adam and Adam is incomplete until she arrives. Adam then says, "At last, this is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh." They didn’t need a "ceremony" to ask God to unify them; He already did it for them through Eve’s creation. The rest of us have ceremonies, a sacrament, to experience the same type of unity given to Adam and Eve.
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  EphremHagosposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  The MISSING LINK is the "deep secret truth" about the indivisibility of man and his spouse if and only when mutually sharing the “image of God" made present in the “tree of life” and updated by the cross of Christ. (Gen. 2: 7-25; Lk. 23: 40-43)
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Isn't "marriage" supposed to be a union as "Christ is to the Church?" Aren't both Christ and Church Holy (or Church is supposed to be & "on one accord")? Do our "marriages" resemble a relationship such as this? If not, not as God intended!
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pateludayposted 10 years ago
Marriage is a social creation. True Love and Faith is the real thing one does not need to be bonded by law.
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  Michael Mareeposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I'm sorry but, have you read the Bible? Even in other religions, marriage is not a social creation but an institution provided by God. Unless you are referring specifically to the legal marriage process and status. But to be married, spiritually, you
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  MM: Yeah "Spiritually!" As "Christ is to the Church!" Christ=Holy & Church=Holy! Are our "marriages" as such? Both Holy but we have grown a LONG WAY from His intent of a true "Marriage!"
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  The church is nothing more then a men made institution.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: Not according to Scripture! What "religion" calls "the church" is! THE CHURCH consists of disciples of Christ, "on ONE accord" w/rightly divided Word of God! Not all of these denominations with own interpretations of Scriptures (Gal 1:6-9)!
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  (Sneer) Jesus never set up a church. He is a Judaism priest, we don't even know who the real Jesus in history is, because no record outside bible or is the real Jesus' name even Jesus.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: Either u blv Scripture or not! What other book has fulfilled so many prophesies & was written over K's of yrs ago? No one but Jesus! I'll stick with the Bible!
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  (laugh) The Jesus in the bible is a mythological figure. Nobody know who or what the real Jesus in history is, or whether his (or their) name is even Jesus
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: What other "book" has fulfilled prophesies that was written over K's of yrs ago? Answer that or continue believing "everything" you "read!"
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  There are plenty of psychic out there that have made successful prediction. In fact (laugh) remember South Africa world cup, the octopus predict every match outcome
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: Well there were a lot of "religious psychics" back then if that's what you want to call GOD'S Prophets!
  
  Again, show me any other "book" that has revealed so many prophesies IN WHICH PROPHESIES have been FULFILLED? Show me!
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  No need to show you, there are already a lot of psychic out there. And when the day come when we finally know the scientific reason behind psychic, Apple would have a psychic app.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  "...when we finally know the "scientific reason" behind psychic, Apple would have a psychic app."
  
  Doubt it! Spiritual not materialistic!
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Spiritual things are just science, we are yet to understand, 2000 years ago, people associate rain and flood with gods also.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: Well, "science" needs to "catchup" doesn't it? That's what I've always believed, unspiritual ppl are "immature!" They won't move fm the natural to the supernatural enhancing POWER fm w/in then ask for "proof" while sitting on it! LOL! SAD!
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Sooner or later, science explain all
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Why wait for "science?" Catch up now! John 14:26; 16:13! ALL TRUTH will be revealed!
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Please, the stuff in the bible are just a bunch of legion and superstition. as if jesus really cure the sick by just touching them, the guy probably have some sort of medical training
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: "Sitting on your POWER?" As GOD is my witness, I've touched 1 & the PWR of the HOLY SPIRIT caused him to fall in the Spirit! U too could have PWR (IN Christ) but "sitting on it" not allowing IT to work!
  
  SECRET: "BELIEVE" n Supernatural
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Who the F*** are you on about
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yup. You are with your spouse because you choose to be. Throwing God and Scripture into the mix can sometimes destroy a marriage.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: I beg your pardon? What's your question?
  
  CP: Yes! 42 yrs & growing!
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SimplyIposted 10 years ago
No! It's fornication. No fornicator will enter the kingdom of a God! Please read the Bible and obey it fully before you attempt to call yourself Christian.
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  Link10103posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Mmmm...that goes both ways my friend. Do you personally obey every single thing depicted in the bible? Guarantee that you dont, yet you seem to think yourself more Christian than the poster of this question.
  
  Interesting.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Amen Simplyl! Either one does what it says or not a Christian!
  
  Of course, we all "fall short," but don't let Satan deceive you, "We are righteous by faith" and God has given us the "gift" of Grace & Mercy!
  
  Keep going Simplyl!
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  Christopher Jay Tposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  No it is not fornication, not as defined at the time the bible was written. Fornication comes from the greet root ""fornex" which translates to archway. In ancient times, prostitutes would gather in the archways.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Fornication (sex bwtn two not married) is not acceptable in the sight of God "archway" or where ever! So says Scripture!
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Bruce Repkaposted 10 years ago
Question: what validation or assurance is there that two people just living together are married in the eyes of God, without the entering into a marriage covenant? It's more than just a piece of paper.

A very interesting study is the Hebrew blood covenant. The word "covenant" means "to cut."

- there is an exchanging of blood
- there is an exchanging of names
- there is a ceremonial meal

Typically, in ancient Hebrew study, there is a "cutting" of each man's arm in which they mix their blood. Typically, animals were used, being cut in two and both parties walked through the midst of the animals while reciting the terms of the covenant. God did this with Abraham using the blood of animals. There is an exchanging of names. Abram becomes ArbraHAm, the "HA" representing the name of God, and God becomes "the God of Abraham." God uses the word "covenant" meaning that He "cut" an oath/promise/agreement with Abraham. Abraham then "cuts" the foreskin as a sign of the covenant.

The marriage covenant is based on all these things. There is a ceremony. Both the bride and the groom walk down the "middle" of both sides of the family seated on either side. The terms of the covenant are then recited. Rings are exchanged as a sign of the covenant. In ancient times, a band of skin would be cut on the third finger of the left hand as they believed there was an artery that went straight to the heart. It would then be smeared with ashes so as to produce a very visible scar. It was a sign of the covenant. We do this with rings now. Names are exchanged - The bride takes on the name of the groom and the groom is know as the husband of _______. Usually, there is a ceremonial meal, and in a Christian wedding there is cake and juice/wine/champagne. This signifies the communion elements of the body and blood of Christ. We should not be smearing this in each other's faces. This is a sign of the covenant. It symbolizes the body and the blood. Finally, upon consummation of the marriage, there is an exchange of blood. Not trying to be graphic here, but it is fact that the bloodline is in the semen of the male. Also, when a female virgin engages in intercourse, there is usually blood present. This is the exchanging of the blood. It is a marriage covenant.

It is MORE than just a piece of paper. There is no marriage without the marriage covenant.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  True only if Holy & "in the Lord!" I Cor 7:39. Second but first moreso!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  So only Christians can marry? Don't tell the Hindis or Muslims. They've been doing it longer.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: Only Disciples of Christ can marry. Gal 1:6-9!
  
  Hindis or Muslims have "free will" to do as they please as you do! I'm stating what GOD said concerning Marriage!
  
  Don't blv? ALL have "free will" when not IN Christ!
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Glenda Motsavageposted 10 years ago
The bible speaks volumes about the sin of fornication (sex outside of marriage). I know... I was guilty of it for 10 years! Happy to hear you are getting married. I pray blessings upon your covenant!
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  GM: Fornication = "sex btwn 2 not married to each other!" Adultery = "sex btwn a married person & a person who's not your spouse!" Either way = Sin!
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Do you know who is god? I am god and I say. As long as you don't cheat on ur partner and be responsible, do what u want. ha ha ha
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: What is "ha ha ha: D?" Is it ha ha ha: (signed) Devil?
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peter565posted 10 years ago
You don't need to get married in the eye of the law, but it would mean it is not recognized by the law, which mean e.g. if he married another woman, you can't do anything about it.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Neither is it recognized by God as in a common-law "marriage!"
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Who cares
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  If two people are truly committed to each other then there should be nothing that stands in their way. However, to get the real life tax benefits as well as being recognized ad "next of kin" you should see an officiant and get a license.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: "Believers" should care for Jesus has spoken!
  
  CP: "Nothing stands in their way" but the Word of God, if a "believer!" Anyone can "get a license" to sin but is it a "Marriage" according to the Word of God?
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  That is your choice, not other people's
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: You're right! As I've said before "ALL (sinners) have "free will!"
  
  But now you've heard what the Word of God says! It's up to you to "choose this day who you will serve!" (Joshua 24:15)
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tommiemclaughlinposted 9 years ago
Legal marriage is nothing more than a name change, and a piece of paper. In history in the eyes of your Lord was all you needed. Be happy. And no one married Adam and Eve!
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  Omer123posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  that's wrong legal marriage is actually not a piece of paper it is a connection and the security fo r both the genders
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  If God "joined" you together with a female, you better believe, It's a Marriage! If God said and he (spouse) KNEW her, you best believe they had sex! Gen 4:1 Why would God call Eve "his wife" in same verse if not "Married?"
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fortressrainbowposted 9 years ago
No. Because everything we do should be 100% acceptable to God, and but obeying him 99% is disobedience and detestable to God. You are a Christian, you should already know that. Relationship is not a half serious thing, and everything that God bless are all legal and 100% obedience to His words.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Amen! "IN THE LORD" (I Cor 7:39)
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Then keep away from that seafood or anything not kosher or you're going to Hell.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: No! Just "keep away from" the Word of God "or you're going to Hell."
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Zodiacimmortalposted 9 years ago
Does this mean you Were you married in the church but just do not have the Marriage license?

If this IS the case Then having went to CCD classes I believe yes you are seen in the eyes of your god as being married (I no longer believe in those teachings)

If You haven't been married by the church (doing the whole I Do's thing in front of who usually officiates over them) then no you are NOT married in the eyes of your god.

From my time as a catholic in CCD calsses and going to church (as well as having to read that) it's funny Adam & Eve I've never found being noted as being married , and if you think about it being Eve came from a rib of Adam's Pick one.. he's either her father or her brother so one way or another there's some serious incest going on there.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  A Church doesn't make a marriage! God estab "Marriage" which was INTENDED to be HOLY - which is IN THE LORD!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Two people marry each other - God is optional. There are tons of atheist marriages that are healthier than some of the Christian marriages out there. It's built on mutual respect and love. If you have that fuck the scripture.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: Scripture only applies to "believers!" It's available to all, but no one shoves it down one's throat! I'm only telling ALL what's in Scripture. All have "free will" to do as they please! (Matt 10:14-15)
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realtalk247posted 9 years ago
If you are a Christian and not legally married then your union is not recognized according to biblical standards. Adam and eve had a special union created by God as they were the catalyst for the human race. All thoughout the bible you have men taking and working years to marry.

If it's not legal on paper then you are still "ol girl I stay with" or "my girl" but placing the title of wife without earning it in real life on paper seems like hog wash.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  And so it is ("hog wash")! Marriage must be Holy, only in the Lord; otherwise, we've only acquired a license to "sin!" So most of ours are as hers if one reads Scripture!
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Joshtheplumberposted 9 years ago
I see people get married for the right reasons and be miserable... And they are sure to spread their misery. I also see people that think they know each other and then find out it was not what they signed up for. The people that smile the most know each other right away and don't care what any piece of paper or tradition tells them.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Study what the Scriptures say!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Yup. The only thing that really matters is what the two partners think of each other. It is rare that you'll see a marriage like that break up because they missed Sunday services.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: Going to "a building" has nothing to do with Marriage! All I'm saying applies to "believers" not what "ppl have joined together" or what they think of each other! A blvrs "Marriage" should be as Christ is to the Church - Holy and in the LORD!
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Tusitala Tomposted 9 years ago
Good one, ImAllEars! I'm referring to the last sentence in that question.

My views are similar to Neale Donald Walsch's in his best seller, What God Wants - A Compelling Answer to Humanity's Biggest Question. Published 2005 by Hodder and Stoughton. It's worth a read.
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  gmwilliamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I have THAT book, it is an excellent thought provoking book!
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  manatita44posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Good on you, Grace. You are a loving seeker. Nothing comes without longing, yearning, aspiration ...you try, so I am happy. Much Love.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Tom read BIBLE not man's interpretation! Why so many lost!
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cperuzziposted 9 years ago
How are you not married legally? Is your "spouse" still married or can't get out of his current marriage? Outside of that, there shouldn't be many reasons why you two can't tie the knot.

Okay, for argument's sake, let's say you and your spouse are living together and having kids (why not - one commitment is as good as another). You are their mother and he is their father. You two have taken a vow of fidelity without a marriage, church, or justice of the peace making you man and wife - depending on what state you're in, you may already have a common-in-law marriage.

In reality, marriage is an agreement between to people to be true to one another for the rest of their lives. God does not give a marriage and the law doesn't either. The priest, reverend, justice, or judge is there to witness it, along with the congregation. Two people marry each other.

If you both agree to that without any kind of legal officiant, you're married - Mazel tov. For all intents and purposes, you're a couple. While I would got short of introducing yourself as Mrs. Marriedperson for legal reasons, unless you're looking for a divorce your unofficial civil union should be good until one of you dies.

But then again, I'm not God to most people. If it's good enough for him, who am I to argue?
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  "God does not give a marriage.." defies Scripture! "..What GOD has joined together..." He gives a marriage!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Norine, you're freaking insane.
  Two people marry each other - with witnesses. Screw your scripture. I don't need a person dedicated to a book of myths to tell me that I'm married. Common-in-law states recognize marriage by cohabitation.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: Screw your "common in law states" (Man-Made Law)! "Two ppl" perform UNHOLY RITUAL & obtain "license to sin" (man's law) but r not married in the sight of GOD; bcuz marriage is HOLY as "Christ is to THE CHURCH" both HOLY as we should be in Ma
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  jonnycomelatelyposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Norine, it sounds to me like your church is not made up of God and Christ, but of people who chose to be narrow-minded and constricting of their "God."
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Late: I quote "Bible" not "people!" Have u read I Cor 7:39? "ONLY IN THE LORD?" This pertains to 2nd but 1st moreso! What GOD or Christ do you serve?
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betty janet davisposted 9 years ago
I believe the Love between you and your partner is what matters most to God. God is love, and when you truly love someone, you have made the commitment to them long before you take the vow. The energy of love is what is keeping you together. God knows this
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  But if they cannot have self-control, let them marry, for It is better to marry than to burn! I Cor 7:9
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  TheLightFairyposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Norine: But divorce is also a sin... So if they marry and find out it is not for them, then divorce it is equally as bad/sinful. All sins are equal according to the Bible.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  But one has to be "married" before one can get a "divorce!" How can one "marry" if "DEAD" in the sight of God? If married in the sight of God & get a divorce, then it's a sin!
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I believe that insane zealots that don't even write for Hubpages don't know what they're talking about. You are certainly right.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: Sure am an "insane zealot" for Christ! Thank God!
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Readmikenowposted 9 years ago
How can you be married in the eyes of God but not legally? Who married Adam and Eve is a good question. I suppose if you were one of the first two people created by God and were created for the purpose for being together, I would say that is being married in the eyes of God. I don't think that is a standard most of us could meet.
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  They never had a ceremony with a marriage license.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  When GOD joins male & female together, it's not only a "Marriage," but a HOLY Marriage and "In the LORD!"
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Was Jesus there at the wedding? If so, where did you sit him at the reception. I'll bet next to the kiddie table. Show me God at a wedding - how do you know he showed up? The issue is ridiculous.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: How can a "believer" show a "non-believer" anything? Just as you think I have JESUS "sitting @ the kiddie table," so I think your "non-belief" is "at the kiddie table!" Continue in your "free will," w/o "believing" Scripture! Consequences r gi
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sindhuja s paiposted 9 years ago
Yeah, its acceptable. These laws are made by human for human only.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  Not according to Scripture!
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Norine Williamsposted 9 years ago
Romans 13:1-7 says we should "obey the laws of the land" [paraphrasing]! Neither fornication nor adultery is EVER acceptable in the sight of God! But let us consider what "Marriage" is in the sight of God according to Scripture!

Marriage was established by God in Genesis! God "joined them together" who were BOTH (before their fall-sinless) and "in the LORD!"

That's the way a "Marriage" should be today according to Scripture but who does this? We go out and "marry" according to "our" motives, i.e, handsome/beautiful, good sex, money, status, etc. of which God is not a part and; therefore, HE has not "joined us together" but we ourselves! Consequently - divorce!

I Corinthians 6:9-11 tells us that actions such as these "will not inherit the Kingdom of God." It goes on to say that we were "ONCE" sinners as these but have been "...washed, sanctified, and justified by the Spirit of God..." Did you notice "fornicators and adulterers?" We WERE! However, once you are "in the Lord," all is forgiven! Whether only ONE is IN THE LORD is OK for I Cor 7:14 says "For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by his wife..."

Ephesians 2:1; Romans 5:6; Colossians 2:13 all say that we "were DEAD in our sins" before coming to Christ! If DEAD, how can one marry according to Scripture which should be "ONLY IN THE LORD?" Marriage is a "Spiritual" union, established by God and is NOT for self satisfaction but reproduction!

Religion would have one believe that ALL MARRIAGES are "IN THE LORD," which is a LIE! Why do you think the divorce rate is high? Because WE "join ourselves together" with a spouse and it doesn't work unless they become "IN THE LORD" during the "marriage!"

That's why Scripture says "What GOD (Not us) has joined together, let not man put asunder." (Mark 10:9; Matthew 19:6)
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  cperuzziposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  I believe that overzealous Christians that live and dies by the myths of the Bible have terrible sex lives.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CP: Can't "prove" that one by me or Scripture!
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Christopher Jay Tposted 9 years ago
I am not religious but do consider my self spiritual. If god even care if your married or not, it would not matter if you aren't legally married, as long as you are married in the eyes of the lord. In the days of Joseph and Mary, if a man had a woman live with him, they were considered married. Legality has nothing to do with things of the spirit.
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  Norine Williamsposted 9 years agoin reply to this
  CJ: Marriage is "...things of the spirit." I wish ALL knew this!
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  peter565posted 9 years agoin reply to this
  People who are reincarnation of the gods/angels(Same thing).AbrahamLincoln,WindsorChurchill,GeorgeWashington,NelsonMedulla,Confucius,Napoleon,ThomasJefferson,BarackObama(he become President, when we need 1 that know of Muslim and MiddleEast)
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  Norine Williamsposted 8 years agoin reply to this
  Pete: Marriage estab by GOD!
  
  What are u on easing Pres Obama into conversation of marriage?
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