Nikki is not proclaiming it to the world! Maybe if most of the people reading this forum read it correctly from the beginning only believers would be in this forum. It did not say "Who does not believe in Jesus and God but IT SAYS WHO DOES BELIEVE IN JESUS AND GOD." So lets get the facts straight!
Your title is deceptive. No offense. Not all religions see Jesus as God. In many they are two separate entities.
I am of the understanding- Jesus was a real human male. His entire life is clouded in some sort of mystery or secrecy.
The "GOD" concept, which was accidentially, brought forth, before Jesus' time, perpetuated a hoax, so as to enslave other human beings, for whatever, reason deemed necessary. Later was adopted and became Christianity, the known basis, for the business of religion.
Do I believe in GOD? No! Do I believe in Jesus, a savior of Humankind, murdered for our sins? No! He was murdered because of greed and control.
Where ever you heard he was greedy was wrong. Thats Satan. Jesus was never greedy or controlling. He's the entirely the opposite. He inspired everyone he met. He's loving and loyal to all who knows him.
You seem to be miss reading what I wrote. I never said Jesus was greedy or controlling. He was murdered by those who were greedy and controlling. I hope that's better.
He inspired everyone he met? What did he do that inspired people? Do you know the truth about what he did?
I'm sure he was a loving and merciful human man, who was extremely smart and he saw through the HOAX known as religion. He was against Religion and He defied the religious leaders of his time and was killed for his defiance. He wasn't killed for the sins of Humankind. He was killed because he knew the truth about religion and didn't want his followers to get engulfed in it, because he(Jesus) knew it was a false God.
Again, I don't buy into the "GOD" concept. It's a great story, but in the end. It's not factual truth. Religion was a hoax then and now, AND Jesus knew it.
Those are not miracles in today's standards and he did say that we would do many more things then he did. It is also said that al the miracles and teachings of him are NOT in such a book because it wouldn't fit. Yet most will go by what is there and make it like it is all there when it clearly states that they aren't.
Hi L.G. all that Jesus did is in the bible. I believe that. I saw it. I just don't remember where at the moment. There are various movies that reflect this. The true ones. That do not joke or etc. Videos,. He did great things. To me he is an icon.
Yeshua was killed 1. The government and church as one were afraid of him. They knew he had many loyal followers and did not want to be overthrown.
Yeshua taught against those who went by the letter of the law, were arrogant, thinking they knew all and were hypocrites. On the outside they seemed to be spiritual, but on the inside they really were not. It was a front. Yes that is like most religions today.
Not everyone who believes is religious. There is a difference in being religious and spiritual.
2. Yeshua died to fullfil the law.
He was a man and not God. However he was able to overcome the ego for God and us. Died, resurrected and ascended both his spirit and his body to God.
He came to let us know God did exist and to show us we also can be ascended.
It's sad that Higher Consciousness escapes so many here.
There are many false religions in the world, Christianity is not a false religion it is real. God is not a after thought God is real and exist, Jesus is fully human and fully God. Jesus/God is not a figment of anyone's imagination Jesus exist and God exist, I can tell you how I know, but I would be wasting my time because you do not believe. The Bible says whoever comes to God must beleive that He (God) is God.
I believe there is an overpresence that is part of everything and everyone. Some call this God but it is not the ones (yes plural) that are portrayed in the Bible. Jesus yes, but same again, not the one the Bible portrays him to be and neither are He's nor She's but no sexual orientation. There is no religion where we go when we are through with these bodies. There is no sin and no Satan. Those ae just used to describe what people don't understand and if they still do not understand they call it evil. They are happy to hear those things because it is much easier to be told something then to go out and find out for themselves. Just my honest opinion and experiences here folks.
thetruthhurts2009posted 13 years agoin reply to this
Oh brother! Let me guess, Emergent, New Ager(the church or Oprah)? Who believes in Gnostic gospels written by people who wanted to distort the Word of God as much as possible and have been widely renounced as gibberish by the scholarly community. I know the Trinity can be complicated but it’s pretty well understood by true Christians God is the Father, God is the Son, God is The Holy Spirit 3 and 1. 1x1x1=1. There is no sin? Wrong! That’s new age junk to erase the line between right and wrong. Where everything becomes subjective. If there is no sin Why do we have punishment for wrongdoing or is that just simple-minded. Let me guess you carry Nero’s cross everywhere you go. You have bought into the lie of satan. There is only one way to God and that's through Jesus Christ and His word The Bible.
I do not know that any individual Jesus as in the bible existed. Many Jesuses would have walked the world preaching to people that it may not be best to follow what was written in the OT! You would not have to be very bright to see that S**t gets you controlled or killed!
Oh well. If not here and now....then when is a better time to say hello?
I thought it was proper, to say hello when you see someone for the first time, during the day. If I had seen you early and said hello, then I wouldn't have ask how are you, because I would have already known.
Hmmm.....? Interesting that you bring it up tho? j/k
Australian humor.... always brings me undone! Sorry I was making what I thought was a funny with two meanings, one of them very colloquial! I was having a shot at the poster, for not having a very broad topic, and referring to two of us perched on the same fence post in this thread...... I think I just made it worse!
I believe in God. But, according to the movie Zeitgeist; Jesus was actually the Egyptian Sun God RA. The story of RA's life and death are copied down thru the centuries and changed to suit the times. The documentary shows Crosses drawn on Egyptian walls. So it is Obvious Jesus did exist. The only question may be when he existed.
No, by showing one and another random act of kindness to all, never pushing your ideas on to others, demonstrate what God and Jesus means to you. Without pushing. Your thoughts, only. If you can demo a verse so be it. Just know who you are talking to, as well as if they want to know. And, thank you for your awesome comment, very appreciated.
"1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." John 1:1-5
"14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:1-14
I also believe ....and... Just having a thought. God spoke the word and his word formed the planets and stars And the (Holy) spirit of God moved upon the surface of the waters and then life abounded The trinity was revealed to us in the first chapter of Genesis.
There are many referrences that contradict themselves about who Jesus was in that Bible. Jesus called himself The Son of God, Jesus also stated that his Father was God and then some verses say that he siad that he was God incarnate. Then he also says the we are God's and we are the Children of God so that would also make us the same as Jesus in his explanation the he is the Son of God and that God is his father.
People tend to thinks that we would be too proud and it is arrogant to call ourselves Gods, but Jesus stated that we were. He even went to say that we would do bigger and beter things than he did himself while he was on the Earth. If God made everything and we are his children, we are he who made us--so said Jesus. We will do bigger and better things than Jesus....and so we are, but Chrisitanity pushes those concepts away and only wants to teach that bad side of things. Jesus came to teachus the LIGHT of things, and that not one person or group can put God in a Box and then make a password or set of rules so that they are the only ones who can have him. God doesn't work that way--men and selfishness do and Jesus spoke against all that in the Bible...........butwho is listneing to that when they can delight in telling others how bad they are while extolling themselves on that pedestal and keeping God to themselves.............
It is true that the Bible contradicts itself all of us know that, however it is up to all of us to decide on what is true and what is not and if Nikki believes then that is fine too! She is asking a simple question, " Do you believe in Jesus and God or do you not? Satan to sits in the pews and reads the Bible so your answers are contradictory. Either you believe or do not and personally if you do not that is fine too!
thetruthhurts2009posted 13 years agoin reply to this
No AEvans the bible is without contradiction. Those who usually state such things always forget or intentionally leave out the historical and biblical context and therefore see only what they want to see that's how religious cults entice their followers.
thetruthhurts2009posted 13 years agoin reply to this
There are many versions of the bible. They are made to make the bible easier to understand so they paraphrase. I'm not new really a fan of it, but it helps teens and pre-teens. If you really want to check the accuracy of the bible the they are sources in libraries and online with the original text and languages. It will help strengthen your faith so you may know you have God's word. I prefer the NASB, NKJV, or the KJV. Some of the newer versions have distorted the Word of God such as NIV, NWT Feminist version etc. Which tries to rob Jesus of His divinity and tries to make baptism a requirement to be saved etc.
"Meritt is correct to chastise those who manipulate the Bible to support doctrines of their own invention. However, this does not mean that the Bible - which is, after all, a composition of literature - cannot make use of literary techniques such as metaphor."
In most cases these changes are of less consequence than when studying the timeframes as stated in the endtime prophesies. For instance, if we are to be studying the history of the United Stated without an accurate understanding of a calandar. We would be lost in confusion. For me, this is the first thing that we should understand when studying scripture. These timelines were included in God's messages to us for a very good reason. They were included because they are "the key" to understanding his message.
They won't admit it, but all the fields of science who have undertaken the task of dis-proving the Bible, have failed. That is another fact, that many, (especially the scientists and atheists), on hub pages ignore, as if it will just go away.
I have seen them go to such extremes to ignore what they cannot dis-prove, that is is pathatic, and not funny anymore.
Can't disprove bible ? You mean human written book to disapprove ? I can understand frustration and amount of energy it takes to preach that book but any human book can't be disapproved is far fetched statement.
I believe there is a God. He is very much alive. My Mother passed away three years ago 2006. I was lying in the bed next to her when she left this world. I had a small light on the table next to the bed. I wanted to see everything about her. I knew she would leave and go to heaven that night. At 2 o'clock. She left me. I was praying while waiting on hospice and the Pastor to get to the house. I remember opening my eyes and saw a fiqure or a gray substain. It was moving up the wall. Very slowly at first. It was my Mother's spirit. She was saying goodbye and that she always loved me. But,it was time for her to go to be in a better place. She would not have anymore pain. The cancer that filled her body. Would be gone. She is an angel,now. I'm in the medical field and seen alot of people expire. But,the look on their face's. Is a look of peace. I could tell you more. But,I wanted to get the message to you that there is a God. Peace, Dreaming Cherry
The point is that while we are argueing with someone that isn't listening,,, we could have been talking to someone that is. We can still love em any way; bless their tiny little shrivled up hearts. I hope soneone is saying the same thing for me. I need it. bless my tiny little shriveled up heart.
30 A.D.: religion Jesus of Nazareth leaves Galilee after a brief ministry and travels to Jerusalem to observe Passover at a ritual Seder meal that will be depicted by future painters as The Last Supper. Although he is but one of many Jewish evangelists who claim to be the Messiah, Jesus has antagonized the priestly class by driving the money changers out of the (third) Great Temple at Jerusalem and attacking the hypocrisy of the privileged classes. With a price on his head, he is betrayed by his disciple Judas Iscariot and seized by Roman soldiers, who deliver him to the high priest and the Sanhedrin (great council and tribunal of the Jewish nation). He is condemned as a blasphemer and sent to the Roman procurator Pontius Pilate, whose chief concern is to curb unrest that might create political repercussions back at Rome. Pilate sends Jesus to the ruler of Galilee Herod Antipas, who sends him back to Pilate, who lets the mob decide his fate. The mob condemns Jesus and he is crucified, probably April 30, between two thieves on Golgotha, a knoll near the Damascus Gate. Few people are aware of the crucifixion, such events being commonplace.
Disciples of Jesus will profess to have seen him resurrected after his burial in the tomb of Joseph of Arimathea. They will proclaim him Messiah and Savior, and they will found the Christian faith that will grow in later centuries to dominate much of the world (see Paul, 46).
We have a Creator? Someone created us. No we can not see him simply because He is invisible. There is a good spirit and an evil spirit. God is our Creator and he created mankind, animals and the host of heaven. All things seen and not seen! God is a Spirit. He visits us every morning and gives us the breath of life. If he withdrew his breath from us we would be as a baby doll without breath. To be seen--God being a spirit needed a vessel to get into--therefore he chose Mary's virgin body. He spoke his word into Mary's womb. Notice I said, spoke! He DID NOT HAVE SEX with Mary, she was just a vessel used. Neither had Joseph touched her. There was NO UMBILICAL CORD USED. IT IS A MYSTERY AND EVERY ONE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THE MYSTERY. GOD CAME INTO THE WORLD BY USING JESUS BODY.HE STEPPED INTO THAT BODY SO THAT HE COULD BE SEEN. (HE CAME TO HIS OWN AND HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT)! READ ST. JOHN 1 CHAPTER; ST MATTHEW 1:21; GALATIANS 3:16 HE CAME TO DIE FOR OUR SINS! HIS LOVE TO MANKIND! ALSO THERE IS TRULY A DEVIL AN EVIL SPIRIT WHICH HE HAS DEMONS WHICH GETS INTO MEN/WOMEN/BOYS/GIRLS AND CAUSES THEM TO DISOBEY AND SIN AGAIN GOD! WE SEE THAT EVERY DAY IN CRIME.
I studied all the religions.I understand all of them. Understanding doesn't mean believing, I think ! So .that doesn't mean I believe in any of them. I'm an Atheist and free to my opinions thank you ! :
The question was,"Who believes in Jesus/God"? I believe, without a doubt! My faith brings me peace and although I do not pretend to have all the answers I can say with certainy that Jesus Christ is a loving all powerful savior and it saddens me when people blow him off. Instead of blaming Jesus for all the horror in this world why not embrace his love, wisdom and kindness and make an attempt to change this world for the better........
Then you must quickly leave the room !!!! Run..away from the smell that bothers you so much. Funny how you guys love to harass, yet you are so much better... You are the ones trying to push your disbelief down our throats not the other way around.
I just loved the comment that science is all lies, written and placed on the Internet with the assistance of hundreds of scientific discoveries that were once theories. Some how my mind relates it to the Islamic extremist holding up the sign that says Kill all people who say Islam is violent! Just no ability to reason I guess. Hilarious entertainment though!
Because I understand, I say you are full of pride and arrogant. I think is you, who doesn't understand a thing. And don't come after me. You're wasting your time, and showing everyone that I'm right. Are you going to come again telling everybody about being ranked above the bible and Qu'ran ???
Think its very simple many have understood I do have god knowledge, have proved it with a book which took years of full time effort to put together as it was very difficult to do so. Something which will benefit humanity.
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