I've had a couple of strange occurrences with what I think was the supernatural...freeky stuff.
Plus whenever I have a height of a specific emotion and I walk past a light (no matter where it is) It tends to turn off. Then when I'm away from it it turns back on...
I've even had friends with me on occasions when the light stuff has happened and it freaked them out a lot! Weird...
So people tell me stories, I want to hear yours
We had a ghost once. Pretty harmless, so we didn't think much about it. It was creepy seeing a shadow in another room, one time a vacuum cleaner turned on by itself and a grandfather clock that I needed to take in for repairs (I had removed the weights so I could move it) chimed at midnight. Then one day I was standing at the sink, I had on a pair of shorts and I felt something cold and wet moving across the back of my leg, just above the kneecap; I turned around and no one was there so I said, somewhat loudly, "I've had enough". That's the last incident we ever had. I kind of miss it, whatever it was. Except for the last incident it never scared me.
I see a old men fooling around like a grandfather that is why he did these things to give you signals to show he is around but he did not want to scare you so he stopped that teasing ,he just want you to know that he is watching over you ,at least it makes me feel like a granddad that liked to make fun and tease people and just to make them smile ,that is why he gave these signals and then when you said you had enough ,it stopped so it is sure that it is someone that loves you a lot ,it can even be a granddad that you did not even know so well anyway you can ask if there is still someone around ,its a comforting thing to know that our loved ones stay around or are there when needed ,one day you will know that you have been protected blessed be angelheart
Actually, I was married to a guy who died at a young age from MS. I always assumed it was him. Wasn't the watch over you type, but he was a practical joker.
no, but from what I've seen of men, there are times it has seemed like a rational option. I guess. Can women be gay? Is that a politically correct term? I thought we were supposed to say lesbian.
If I have offended any lesbians with this post I will hold you accountable.
In all the posts I've read of yours, I don't think you've ever revealed your gender, perhaps I'm wrong.
Why would it be pertinent? I find men pull their punches with women. Not what I'm looking for. I prefer honest dialogue. Don't tell anyone my secret.
Receiving honest dialogue should facilitate the return of it. If one is presenting reality as defined by nature, that certainly shouldn't be perceived as anything but honest, don't you think?
Are you implying that I have been anything other than honest when posting?
Only you can answer that question yourself to the full degree and magnitude your intellectually honesty can muster, while on the other hand I am only able to answer the question using probability and possibility functions of degree and magnitude based on your responses thus far.
Not directly no. You can figure it out though by some of the posts.
The thread about women teaching the bible hinted real closely to the gender. Or the one about women being submissive.
There was no way he didn't know. Women post differently. I know several others had already deduced it. But I have no idea why the fact would be relevant.
Gender really shouldn't matter in a discussion forum like this - for what it's worth, what you describe doesn't sound at all dishonest. Not that I've had a chance to read any of your posts - it just bugs me when someone says "oh, you should be honest with who you are so I be honest with you." If people are honest about rational points, it really shouldn't matter who is saying it. It's what we say and do that matters, not our gender.
It is not relevant in my humble opinion.
Yes, it's quite amazing the answers some seek to "strange occurrences" are found in their imaginations.
Yeah, sure. LOL!
Our connection to all people and things that exist both seen and unseen is amazing. Not at all freaky.
Well I had a couple that I think were pretty freaky, if theres dark figure standing at the end of my bed then I think I can consider that freaky...lol that was my first...
OK. I have to say that we all may have a different story and here is mine.
The reason I am writing in Hub Pages it is because I had this supernatural encounter believe it or not, I believe that this was brought about from my religious writings activities and if you want to read all about it read these two of my hubs. It starts in this hub called; Manfraco, Prayers for Reconciliation; and the second one is; Dreaming The Heavenly Messenger? Hub 36; now these are the names of my hubs I hope I can supply and activate the links for you to find them.
If my links do not work you have to find them under my profile name.
hi about the lights i beleive you and totally understand when you say its a certain emotion that triggers it, this has happened to me a few times the emotion is a rare one ! and i also realised like you that it is a certain emotion that does it you cant make it happen on its own ! iv also had weird electrical things happen and alot of my friends dont like me going near there electrical stuff because often it stops working for a while lol
Heres a strange story. One night while working at the nursing home I went in to take a New Patients temperature, whome I had never met before, I also did not have my badge on. After taking the patients temperature she stated, make sure u turn the light off, Kristie. I stopped and asked her how she knew my name. The patient then stated my dad told me, hes in the other room. This patient was in here 90's. It freeked me out and I left in a hurry.....
You work in a nursing home, so it's highly likely the patients will know who you are even though you never met them. The fact that the patient said their dad told them was probably meant as a joke or to enable the exact reaction you had. No biggie.
How would this patient know who i am. it was her first day there. She wasnt joking at all. She had dementia...
They guessed. Who cares? There is no supernatural and EVERY single person who has claimed supernatural abilities has been shown not to have them, every single time. Liars, confused, con men, psychotics, whatever. Never, ever anything else.
Do you know there are large unclaimed prizes for certain demonstrations of these supposed abilities? Yet they remain unclaimed and always will be.
Gullible people believe nonsense.
Watch a person put his hand through a table and ask him how it feels and what is happening. He will tell you a perfectly logical (in my mind) explanation.
Wow u like to put words out there that are not even said... I never said I had any kind of ability.
Oh well, then obviously it was a ghost. Clearly, no other alternative explanations were possible other than a boogieman.
There is another possible explanation. Mirror neurons tend to have that ability. Not sure whether a dementia patient may have acquired the special ability to use the mirror neurons because of the damage to the other part of the brain that remembers. The brain therefore might have picked up on the neurons from the brain in Kirstie.
beelzedad- you poop on everything, lol.
You mean the father was physically in the other room and told her your name or by thought transference perhaps?
I have had several "odd" experience. I don't for even a second think of any of them as supernatural. Everyone of them can be explained in rational ways - as can every single thing that anyone thinks is odd.
Easy. You are lying, mistaken, exaggerating, confused or have a loose electrical connection.
If you really can put out lights by walking past them, I am quite sure there are ways to make good money from this talent. But in reality, you can't and you won't.
Ummm no, i didnt say I can put out lights by walking past them.....
Yes you did. Oh, you qualified it as you have to be in a certain mental state (common "out" for this sort of b.s.), but that is your claim. And you cannot. It's that simple.
Hi All This is my first time on here, and I have been reading some of the accounts @ Pcunix I totally understand your sceptism, especially if you hav'nt had any experiences and I would'nt try to make anyone believe, but from MY point of view, I have had abilites since childhood, first they used to frighten me, not knowing why all these things were happening to me? and believe me i was terrified, and would have preferred them not to be happening, as it was'nt nice living like this, but obviously as i got older, and realised i KNEW what would happen, etc etc, i tried learning and understanding more, and joined a circle, and for many years now,I have done readings, telling people the past,present, and future, and passing messages from the spirit world on, have seen and been in contact with manyyyyy spirits, and bought comfort to many people, which i can assure you is a joy, how is it done? well there are many theories, but truthfully I dont know, why am i able to do this? I dont know, i can only tell you i can, as i am sure manyyy other people including yourself, would probably be able to do, if you were open, and receptive to it, but i understand not everyone is, therefore, it seems as if "we special" people are just that SPECIAL but i am no more special than anyone else, just more open to it, Maybe one day Pcunix you will have an experience? which would change your way of thinking, but please dont assume that everyone is "mad" because although there are a lot of charlatons out there, there are also, the true and trusted people, that only do this to help, and bring comfort to people, and as long as u can prove to the recipient, that you are in touch with their loved one/s by telling them something personally, then surely bringing comfort is all that matters, and proving life after life goes on. have a lovely weekend :-)
If you really had such abilities, you could claim numerous prizes.
But you can't, because you don't.
You are simply deluding yourself.
Hi ok as im new to this site, im not sure where your reply is Pcunix?? as i had an email stating, the reason i say this, is the reply above, about having abilities and claiming numerous prizes has been put to someone before, from yourself, as an answer, so is this in answer to me? or someone from before? confused? u will be lol
Welcome to hubpages troozer, on this forum you'll find many others who have experienced the unusual and can learn and share things with like minded people. There are a few skeptics to , so be prepared for that. Anyway look forward to reading your hubs.
Thank you Alastar I stumbled across this site by accident, and glad I have, there are many stories I can share, mostly spiritual, and i also love reading everyone else's and its nice to be with like minded people with the exception of a few look forward to sharing and reading stories :-)
Hey pcunix. We know you're just jealous. Don't worry, something creepy wil happen to you one day.
Lots of "creepy" things have happened. I'm simply not foolish enough to think any of them don't have rational explanations.
If you want to believe nonsense, that's your business. Do you know Harry Houdini spent much of his life debunking spiritualists? It's all bunk.
like I said. you'll get your creepy experience one day, or maybe you've already had it and you're in denial. There's no harm in admitting you can't explain something.
Yeah, you want to live in your fantasy world. Fine, live in it. I respect your right to believe any nonsense that makes you happy. I'm not going to sit aside and not point out how untrue all of it is.
Be gullible. Believe every bit of nonsense anyone tells you. Here's one for you: I just had a psychic communication from your great grandfather. He says you need to give all your money to the ACLU.
Do you believe me?
Well, it certainly doesn't sound like you really really reeeally respect my right. But that's ok, we're pretty much on the same page with how we feel about each other's opinion.
Oh, I absolutely respect your right. I will stand beside you to defend it. As I told you before, I even think some ludicrous beliefs can be helpful to some people.
That doesn't mean that I won't point out how ridiculous the beliefs are. I see no reason to help you infect other people with nonsense even if the beliefs are helping you,
Lol. You just really don't get it. That's what I love about talking to you.
Right. You are the brilliant theist who thinks he is taking coup in every post,
We know. All of us atheists have been scared silly every since you appeared in the forums. Your incisive comments and biting wit leave us slack jawed at our keyboards, unable to muster a retort.
The world has never seen the likes of you before, and may never again.
Oh, except for one tiny flaw: it's actually YOU who never gets it. But that's OK, because you always think you do, right? No doubt some supernatural voice helps you reach that conclusion. Or you pray on it, and are told, "Yes, you are right once again. Good job!"
Isn't that how it goes? Always a little help from the Big Guy? That's why you are so good at putting atheists in their place, isn't it?
Yeah, we don't get it. Riggght. The world is full of creepy things that go bump in the night. It's true, it must be true, because YOU said so!
We are, clearly, no match for the supreme acumen of just_curious.
Sorry I didn't reply sooner. I wasn't bored enough to reply to the email that you had answered my post. Glad I waited though. I had suspected one of you was a sock puppet of the other. I guess maybe I was wrong. Or.....maybe.... You are and don't know it. The world may search for that answer until the end of Hub Pages. Love your posts. Hilarious. my ghost buddy thinks so anyway. The jury's still out for me.
pcunix i cant help but see how you have made such a fool out of yourself by acting the way you are if you dont beleive in this sort of thing then pi** off from this conversation we all know you dont beleive in it so go away ! and go and chat about somthing you beleive in and leave every one alone you sad person !!!!
I think these odd experiences cannot be explained, do you?
We moved into an apartment that was part of a huge house owned by a doctor, who we found out later was a very sick individual. The whole time we lived in this apartment we had paranormal activities all the time. Once a mirror in a very large and heavy oak frame came off the wall and did not fall, but came directly at me from across the room, but did not hit me, and did not break. It "fell" three feet down and about 20 feet across the room. We also had a dog with red eyes that went under the door in and out of our place, and also found that anything we dropped on the floor would "roll" into the very center of our mattress but under the bed. Socks, books, shoes, dishes, anything that ended up on the floor, ended up under the middle of our bed. It got so bad that by the time we left there, we began looking for anything missing under the bed first.
Oh, no! A dog with red eyes??
Demonic possession, surely!
Some people will believe just about anything..
Send me ten thousand dollars and I will cast out any demons that are possessing your house pets. I do this not for the money, but out of the goodness of my heart.
(Disclaimer: your dog may still have red eyes and may still go in and out at random after I cast out the evil spirits. No refunds.)
guys lets keep it civilize here. this is supposed to be a forum for people who have experienced alleged supernatural events to discuss it openly. not for anyone to debate as to whether or not the person is just acting crazy over what they thought they saw.
besides, who really knows the truth as to whether or not there is such a thing, as we're never going to find out the clear answer until we're all dead. that's just reality.
I am being civil.
Every single person who has claimed supernatural abilities has been debunked. Every single one.
There are no ghosts, no bleeding statues, no mind readers, no talking to the dea. None of it ever is real.
That's fact. Is there no room for fact? Do we have to respect utter nonsense?
Noone here is claiming supernatural abilities.....
Well to be fair, I wasn't referring to you specifically PCunix, as I was talking to everyone participating in this forum. I was just saying that because I didn't want this forum to get out of hand again like other religious forums do. That's all. No worries. However, you are right to some degree, as almost all paranormal activities can be rationalized logically.
However, I wouldn't easily dismiss it completely, as there's a lot of pieces about our history that humanity has yet to uncover. Therefore, who really knows if there is such a thing anyway, as it's too subjective at this point
Every claim of supernatural events can be debunked if it is more than some liars tall tale. Every single one.
Pcunix: You must never have talked with the Loch Ness Monster before. Everything she says is straight-up true!
The loch ness monster can talk? You sure do have some unique connections haha.
Of course. But she really isn't a monster. Very nice woman, actually.
@Pcunix. I had some terrible experiences in my life. A few were witnessed by others so it's difficult to say I was imagining things. The one I wrote about below was witnessed by my daughter. Of course, there are other explanations. Bear in mind that the door was locked.
However, some form of telepathy, or some other rare attribute we don't understand yet.
Trouble is that it has degenerated into yet another thread where the believers and non-believers are at each others throats and each trying to get the other side to say that their thinking and beliefs are wrong.
Does it really matter if people believe and think different things?
And it was supposed to be just a nice thread about people telling their stories about ghosts and the supernatural!
I doubt it, but I will allow that telepathy might be possible. I'd put long odds against it, though.
Pcunix, I started seeing 'ghosts' when I was 17. Because I grew up in and was schooled in a completely academic and scientific, atheist environment, I spent the next 8 years telling myself it was my imagination.
Then one night, just after I got two dogs, I woke up and my dogs were barking hysterically at those 'ghosts.'
I went through so many experiences. I ignored them for 26 years and then I needed to have some sort of explanation. I went into a world that I did not know existed. I discovered people with abilities that I could not explain knowing current science. They also all told me the reason the things were happening to me was that I had 'mediumistic' ability.
I eventually left it all behind, understanding that the vast bulk of it was smoke, but that there was a fire. And it was the fire that needs scientific explanation. I don't buy into myth.
Sorry, but I don't believe it for even half a second.
Harry Houdini spent a good chunk of his live debunking so called spiritual experiences, ghosts, talking the dead and so on. It doesn't happen. Ever.
Yes, I didn't either, so I do understand where you are coming from. I could, of course, consider that I'm seriously delusional, and I have. It has only been the occasional witnessing by some others that has led me to think that maybe I'm not delusional.
Ever? You are very sure of yourself. But why are you so certain that there is no spiritual dimension to this world?
Could be like a radio. If it doesn't have the right crystal to tune into FM it will only get AM. We all have the right crystal (so to speak) however some of us just like tuning in to our favorite station. Going through the static can be a chore to some. Perhaps too it may not even seem possible to others.
Because every single supposed ""spiritual"" bit of balderdash that anyone has ever tried to put over on the oh-so gullible public has been debunked.
People who believe in ghosts, spirits, angels, demons and all the rest are simply highly gullible and/or highly suggestible people who have been fooled or are fooling themselves.
There is no paranormal.
It violates a number of physical laws. The real question is, how can you be certain there is a spiritual dimension to this world?
For me, the more important question is why otherwise intelligent people swallow this sort of nonsense without protest.
The ease with which people believe utterly ridiculous ideas is beyond astounding.
But how do you KNOW?, they whine, probably because almost all of them are theists or agnostics who think anything is possible.
I KNOW because I use my brain. There are no ghosts, spirits, angels, demons, yadda, yadda. None of it is real.
You'll often notice that a religious indoctrination will cause people to believe in just about anything as they have no critical thinking skills.
Sometimes, even if a believer begins to understand their belief system is false, they may very well continue to believe in other supernatural myths. This is usually due to the fact they have little understanding of the world around them.
Others just may very well want to believer in such nonsense. My 2 cents.
I can only go on my own experiences, like we all do. I am quite open to a different explanation, and I think that one day all these things will be explained by science and be regarded as 'natural' and not supernatural. I believe that it is only the body that dies, not the spirit. I do not, however, believe in heaven and hell or any form of divine judgement etc. Quantum physics is already doing this to a certain extent.
You have had life experiences that have led you to not believe in anything supernatural. That is great, I am not trying to change your beliefs only put forward what I have experienced.
As I tried to explain to other people here, I have had life experiences that a gullible person certainly could interpret as supernatural. That Tobin bridge thing is just one. Like almost every other person who has ever lived, I have experienced coincidences, feelings of deja vu, have heard voices, seen quick little hallucinations and all of that.
They ALL have natural explanations. There is no "spirit" in your body - when you die, you will be gone forever.
I think it's the latter that causes so many people to cling to nonsense. They just can't imagine their own demise and non-existence.
Get over it. There is nothing after this.
No, we go by way of reality, not experiences, as they are part of perceptions, which can be viewed any number of ways.
Of course, if indeed an explanation comes to light it will be from nature.
The concept of spirits violates physical laws. It is not possible for them to exist.
Doing what, exactly?
No, I haven't. I understand that the supernatural cannot exist as it violates many physical laws.
Do emotions violate these physical laws?
Emotions violate no physical laws and come entirely from physical processes.
Uh, emotions are biochemical reactions in our bodies triggered by our brains. Obviously, they don't violate any laws.
Then nor would perceiving spiritual dimensions. It is also contingent on brain activity.
You are not perceiving spirits. You are imagining or misinterpreting.
Imagination or other still requires brain activity is my point. It therefore does not violate the physical laws. Only ones internal law of what exists and what does not, is what it might violate, which is largely dependent on ones perception.
Before radio waves and the like were discovered to exist these too were only imaginary and not yet interpreted.
They were not imaginary, simply unmeasured and unused.
There are no spirits. This is what we get when people who know nothing about science try to use it to justify ridiculous beliefs.
Yes agree unmeasured and unused. You seem to rule out the possibility of another dimension because it supposedly violates physical law. How do you know the spiritual dimension does not exist? Is it because technology as we currently know it, does not know, as yet, how to tap into it? Therefore because it is unmeasured and unused it is ridiculous? So when science makes the discovery what then? It is no longer ridiculous?
I give up.
You need to believe utter nonsense, so you believe it and make up more nonsense to rationalize it.
Experience and belief are two very different things. To experience does not necessarily mean one might believe. To believe does not necessarily mean one might have experiences. Entertaining possibilities is not rationalizing.
You are however entitled to your opinion.
Perhaps, but one certainly fuels the other, despite reality.
I agree experience can fuel belief. However, how does belief fuel experience? If one believes pigs can fly we would be waiting a very long time to experience that.
Simple, this is usually based on the principles of a believers indoctrination, in that they believe in the supernatural and they believe they have had supernatural experiences, and will not accept any natural explanations. In other words, it comes down to the point of intellectual honesty on their part, or more precisely, a lack thereof.
Agree if one does not accept natural explanations. If there is no natural explanation that exists then we have to wait until a natural explanation can be formulated by the powers that be.
True, and we can imagine all sorts of things that do in fact violate the physical laws, such as spiritual dimensions.
Strawman argument. Radio waves do not violate the physical laws.
Yes agree we can imagine all sorts of things but it does not violate physical laws. If you think it does I am interested to know why imagination does this for you. Radio waves do not either. My point about Radio waves is that they existed way before science confirmed it.
Why not? Our imaginations can conjure anything as they are simply neurons firing in the brain. I am picturing in mind as I write these words, a fire-breathing, invisible, pink dragon perched just behind me. He is looking over my shoulder and commenting on what I'm writing.
I would suspect the question you would ask at this point is, how do I know it's pink if it's invisible?
That's a very similar question non-believers ask believers about their gods characteristics.
And neurons firing in the brain are physical laws. What one imagines is a process of the brain. I agree though we can conjure up anything within the realm of what we believe as possible. If we do not believe or the neurons that fire up cannot conjure up such a thing because it is not within the realm of what is possible we will fail miserably at seeing a pink dragon except in cartoon style or fantasy style.
Where would you get that notion? Neurons firing in the brain don't violate physical laws, if that is what you meant.
We can easily conjure even that which we know is impossible, like flapping our wings and flying at supersonic speeds. I can easily imagine that, though.
Like I said, it is a simple matter to conjure anything in our brains, possible or not.
Yes that is what I meant.
You would need to have a great stretch of imagination to conjure something one may not have experienced or intellectualized.
You can't be serious. Have you never seen a Hollywood movie? Imaginations run wild there. Are you saying you haven't the capacity to imagine things that are clearly impossible?
Sorry, I don't believe that for a second.
And here, it is the believers who usually accuse the atheists of not having an imagination.
Yes of course naturally creative people have a great stretch of imagination. Imagination is what humankind used to bring all things manifest into existence for mankinds comfort and convenience. They are a rare breed.
People in general however have difficulty imagining past the boundaries of their own observations and experience or intellectual knowledge.
People who sense the spiritual dimensions are no different to those who sense love and all the emotions of the mind. Real or imagined depends.
Hardly a rare breed. I think it revolves more around effort than ability.
I can't for the life of me understand why, unless they are lazy.
No, those people are imagining, not sensing. This is simple to understand if you understand how our senses work.
Imagination is effort yes agree. Perhaps not exerted effort but effort all the same.
Lazy or disbelief can be infinite reasons. I don't know.
Yes these same senses that sense love, anger, fear, hate is the same senses used.
Then, I can only conclude you have no understanding of those sense and how they work.
Considering your claims are not backed up with any evidence whatsoever regarding how our senses can see into those magical realms, it is the only conclusion in which to make.
Well that doesn't make sense? I said the same senses that sense love etc. Unless you are talking about physical senses like sight, touch, sound, taste and smell? We see, feel, hear, taste and smell through our physical organs sure. Do you experience love through these senses? Do you experience fear through these senses. Fear of unknown is nothing tangible.
And, what exactly is that sense you refer? Please explain.
Then, we agree our senses cannot detect the supernatural realm.
You need to now explain what it is exactly that senses love, fear, etc. Please do.
Consciousness via perception via the brain. No sensory organs required.
Stringing a couple of words together does not an explanation make via reason via logic via understanding.
Let me try.
Love, fear and all other emotions are subject to the requirement of using our physical senses. We see the people we fall in love with, we hear the words they speak, we touch and smell their bodies. All of this data is fed into the brain releasing biochemicals into our bodies and producing the effect we label as love, one of many such emotions. If a body is unable to produce a certain biochemical, for whatever reason, it is likely that person may not be able to reproduce the same emotions compared with someone else.
Now you try.
Ok . Lets take a look at fear of the unknown, fear of the dark, fear of anything other than physical harm. Fear is real it is a chemical reaction in the brain. Anxiety, kindness, compassion to name a few others.
Why would you fear the unknown and the dark? I find that very puzzling.
In a roundabout way, yes. Notice no supernatural or paranormal entities were required in the rationale of your post.
Yes glad you notice. Because that is the senses I am referring to that do not require sensory input yet are still felt and real..
But, those are not senses, by any form or definition. They are emotions triggered by our senses.
Yes agree. What senses though is what we seem to be debating here. Fear is triggered by which sense. How about anxiety, compassion? Perception is it not. Not a physical sense.
What debate about our senses is there to debate. Isn't it obvious? Biology 101?
Emotions can be triggered by any number of senses or just one.
All one needs to do is have someone point a gun at your head, and the visual you get from that will trigger fear.
Nope. It is one of the basic elements in formulating concepts in the mind. It is not considered a sensor.
Ok if thats what you believe. Be anxious about meeting someone you have never met is triggered by what sense?
No, that is what is defined and accepted in Biology 101. It has nothing to do with me.
The fact that someone told me (audible) and I saw the person (visual).
The person that told you stimulated that experience through sight and sound? Why?
Because, that is how people tend to communicate with each other.
No because perception of the thing feared arose. Seeing and Hearing the other person relay a message does not evoke the chemical reaction of anxiety. You can tell me I will meet Jesus and my reaction will not be based on what I hear but what I am anticipating in my thoughts.
You are free to disagree with Biology and how the body works. I don't see any explanation on your part and instead just denial.
And, where did those beliefs originate? From a book you read (visual) and the indoctrinated beliefs being propagated from family and peers (audible) all nicely nestled away in your brain.
Obviously, if I stated you were to meet Jesus, your reaction would be based on what you heard from me or what you may have read in a book or heard from others.
Ok if you say so. You are ruling at instinct. So enough said.
You need not keep repeating that considering it isn't me who is saying that. The fact that believers are too lazy to learn things for themselves does not preclude those things occur and are part of reality.
In other words, if you have little or no concept of how our body works, how are you supposed to comment on the concept intelligently?
Sorry about that. I didn't realize it was not something you subscribe to.
I will disregard the rest because that is your opinion, which you are entitled to.
You have demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt that it is a fact, regardless of my opinion.
The fact that believers are too lazy to learn things for themselves does not preclude those things occur and are part of reality.
In other words, if you have little or no concept of how our body works, how are you supposed to comment on the concept intelligently?
These are your opinion not a fact. 'Lazy' and 'no concept' are opinions.
Okay, then why do you from time to time redefine words?
Example: Perception, senses, emotions... the ones we've been struggling with for agreement?
Not because I am lazy and have no concept. Your premise is that everything is experienced through the physical sensory organs. My premise was not necessarily. How does a blind man see when he is physically blind? How does a amputee feel his arm still there? Through the brain. There is no sensory organ required in some instances. Depends on what the brain decides to do with itself.
Exactly, you disagree but you have no real explanation, only a loosely-labeled belief. You redefine words to fit an impossible solution.
He doesn't see, he is blind. So, his other senses are now literally forced to take over, hence he relies on sound and touch.
The physical senses are being used here.
Through the brain yes, but phantom limbs are the result of severed and inflamed nerve endings at the point of amputation sending mixed signals to the brain, which is interpreted as pain.
Again, our physical senses at work.
Nonsense, in both your examples, the results were the bodies senses were sending messages to the brain.
You really should have a look at Biology 101.
You might like to check out the Ramachandra dude. Or functions of the brain without sensory input. Don't take my word for it. You are obviously intent on seeing it your way. Ok.
Hilarious, the believer will continue to ignore biology in favor of their imaginative beliefs of how they imagine biology works, and then claim it is biology that is wrong.
That would show a serious misunderstanding of emotions and how they work in the human body, in that you compare them outright to religious myth and fantasy.
Everything is experienced through the brain. Your view was that perceiving spiritual dimensions violate physical laws. Perceptions and emotions do not violate physical laws was my point. Opinions as to whether the perception is correct or not is just that an opinion.
Not quite. What I said was that the existence of spiritual dimensions violates our physical laws, if such a realm managed to come in contact or enter our physical realm. Of course, people claim to perceive such a realm, but if the realm violates our physical laws, then they aren't really seeing it, are they?
Again, this comes down to intellectual honesty and indoctrination.
Oh....So if an animal sees greater distances or can hear tones we cannot hear this too is violating our physical laws. That is what your logic appears to be pointing to?
That would be a misinterpretation of what I said. In other words, your perception of the reality of my words was wrong.
The fact that a particular animals sensory organs were able to pick up higher frequencies than another animal does not violate any physical laws. I have no idea how you managed to come to such a conclusion.
Hello Einstein... hope you're not mad at me still.
Good to see you are still visiting the paranormal forums. Can't help it, can you?
I have never been or ever will be mad at you, sweetcakes. We still have a meeting in the Everglades, remember?
I'm heading to the beach now... South Beach that is... it's 80 degrees down here! You are invited!
I am envious. Is your tan all over or do you wear bikinis? I remember the 3 months I spent on Ios in the Cyclades on a beach that had this sign at the entrance:
Obviously I am not getting what you are saying then.
It seems you are limiting humans sensory organs and have no problem with animal sensory organs being able to do what they do.
The sensory organs are connected to the brain. Some animals brains are smaller then ours however they must be firing up different part of their brain for their sensory organs to be more developed in some cases then humans.
I, too, am skeptical regarding paranormal activity. However, Pcunix, your generalizations regarding paranormal activity actually violate the scientific method. The fact that thousands of claims have been debunked does not mean that all claims will be debunked. Just look at Newton's Laws - they work 99.99% of the time (give-or-take). But there's a tiny little percent of the time when they don't work - and then we depend on Einstein's Relativity for things like an accurate GPS network and predicting the actual orbit Mercury takes around the Sun.
That has nothing to do with supernatural twaddle.
That's a favorite ploy of theists, though: it COULD be possible.
No, it can't. There is no spirit, soul or anything else to live on. There are no ghosts, period.
Ahhh, the final authority has spoken. Enough said everybody. Case closed. We are alone. Glad that argument is over. Now we can have some fun.
You must hate reality. It is so inconvenient for your fantasies.
Actually pcunix, I keep the two separated quite nicely. Although I'm sure you, with your crystal ball, can see deeper into my head than I can; and will surely feel the need to correct me. Tell me oh swami, what do you see?
I see a confused person, deeply troubled by emotional reactions to reality who seeks relief in fantasy.
not true, but still kind of spooky. I see you're getting into the spirit. That's grand.
Obviously true. Your beliefs are fantasy, you obviously need to hold them, there it is.
Ok. Listen, I'm just kidding around with you. Don't get testy. Go back to making fun of stuff. It's what you're good at. I didn't want you to be my swami anyway. You don't have a sense of humor often enough for me.
Ayup, that's you. Parry and retreat.
I see right through you. Appropriate, considering the current thread.
Hey, what do you mean by that? I've just started feeling guilty. it seems like you and I yack too much in these threads, and we are always off topic. Don't you ever feel bad? Crashing other people's threads?
I may take off some times, but I go to rest. I'm right handed and I fence left handed with you. My left hand gets tired, but I want you to feel like you're doing well.
Aways with the condescension, always pretending you are better than the awful atheists.
Do you understand why we dislike you?
There you go, speaking for the mouse in your pocket again.
We? I would need to see a show of hands of all the atheists. I think you're speaking for one other, and an agnostic today.
Okay, I forgot. Make that two other atheists and an agnostic. Give me more time. I'm sure I can irritate enough for you to have a quorum.
Anyhoo, I think I've figured out the problem. We're like a couple of women. We both want the last word. I'll be the bigger 'man' and let you have it.
Please say what's on your mind.
Kinda like when you're in love. You cannot describe the feeling you can only describe an event that arose from the feeling if one has not felt it quite like another, that other will not be able to relate to it.
I communicate telepathically with aliens from the third plant of Zeb....does that qualify...or am I in the wrong thread...again?
Yikes...I'm going to be seeing that one for a long while!
kmackey32, That photo is really creepy. How'd you do that?
My condo is in a historical catholic school house,the church still stands and attached rectory.
I've been here going on 16 years,I've use to hear kids all the time,running in the hall,up and down steps and especially in my basement.Nothing bad,just kids playing and laughing having fun.I've always had dogs the dog would bark also so I know I wasn't crazy.
But after I had my son 12 years ago it stopped,but other things happen a ceiling fan will start without being turned on,the water facets sometimes turn on,sometimes my keys mysteriously move from their rack to odd places.
So I keep extra sets of keys,everywhere and with my mom.
I think their still here just don't want to scare my son.But since they know I'm not scared they still play with me.
I miss hearing the kids but I guess they feel I have my own now.
He's never said anything about kids,but when the celing fan comes on he'll tell me my dad's here.meaning his granddad my father,who is deceased and has been since my son was 18 months.
Oh what I meant was prior to him coming into this world. In preparation for the journey here, he could have been present and playing with his friends waiting. I don't know.
Oh my sister can probably relate to him being able to see your Dad. My sister did the same thing. Described my Grandfather to a tee apparently when she was only four. Repeating catch phrases only he was known to use because he had broken English. She wasn't even a twinkle in my Dads eye when my Grandfather died.
You know there is such a thing as keeping an open mind. We live in a very big universe that we actually know very little about. Whether you believe in a deity or the supernatural is very much a personal thing, so live and let live is what I say.
I have worked as a spiritual medium and a psychic and I believe in some kind of higher power, but am also a sceptic in many ways, do not like what goes on in most major world religions, and (before I get the stupid/moron accusation thrown again) very highly educated.
Everyone has their own beliefs and their own path to follow, so why can we not let everyone follow them peacefully?
After all, these are questions that do not have a definite yes/no answer
Interesting, after watching the Lily Dale documentary, I was convinced mediums and psychics were walking fence posts. Certainly, they were.
Personally, I have had no paranormal experiences. I don't believe in ghosts, spirits, angels, demons, or anything else I can't see, hear, feel, taste, or smell. But... my mother talked to spirits her whole life, in fact, it wasn't until I was in school that I realized not everyone talked to spirits. I'm sure if mom were still alive, she'd be on some sort of medication at this time.
Both my daughters insist there is some sort of benevolent female ghost residing in the archway between the kitchen and the dining room of our home and that she sometimes visits them in their bedrooms. The girls both crave attention, and I've always thought this ghost story was their way of getting it.
My ex-husband swears he saw and heard "strange" things going on in the house all the time. Since he's a recovering alcoholic, I don't doubt that he did.
I wrote a whole hub about mine so I don't want to repeat them. However, here's a nice one.
One day (in San Diego), I was walking home and feeling miserable and I was wondering if anyone cared about me. As I arrived at my front door, it opened on its own. I thought maybe my daughter had opened it. She was looking up at the door in complete amazement. It had been locked and had opened on its own.
To me, that was a signal that someone had told me I wasn't on my own.
Here's one, true story. You may put any twist on it you like.
My daughter, her five children, her dog and I moved into a two story house. The dog was a pit-lab mix. Big and fierce. My grandson was two and a half years old. My four granddaughters had the bedrooms upstairs, I had the rec room in the basement and my daughter and her son had the two bedrooms on the ground floor. The dog slept wherever he wanted. I began to notice on the second day that the dog would go upstairs, but he would cry anc come back down. My grandson would go up during the day to play with his sister, but he would come back down rather quickly as well. After about a week, I asked my grandson why he always came back down so quickly instead of staying up the stairs. He said "well, that lady is up there right now and I don't like her". I asked what lady and he said the one in the white dress, she sings funny. I went upstairs and looked around, there was no sign of anyone there. Then the dog would stand at the foot of the stairs and look up and bark. But neither the boy or the dog would go upstairs again. This went on for several weeks, dog barking or crying, boy looking but not climbing up. Then my grandson came to me and said that the lady "flew out the window yesterday". The dog went upstairs, the boy went upstairs. I saw nothing, the girls saw nothing, my daughter saw nothing. We felt no cold air or any other disturbance. Only the dog and the boy. I cannot explain.
Some are more tuned in to different frequencies than others. Animals tend to be tuned in to such frequencies.
You're right. I also think we fall in and out of those frequencies. There are times in your life where you feel a connection and then they slip away.
Yes agree and slipping in and out can be dependent on different things. Here in NZ in one town they decided to play baroque music. Not sure why, but someone on the council must know about the effect music has on ones psyche. Anyway after a few months many of the incidences with trouble makers of the town lessened, burglaries and the like did too. After many more months there was zero crime and a peaceful town.
Music is known to alter our frequencies. Brain entrainment is based on this premise.
You mean, I hope, sound outside of normal hearing ranges? Yes, all of us have varying ability to hear sounds. Yes, infrasound can make people feel "creepy": http://www.skepdic.com/infrasound.html
Simple carbon monoxide has also been responsible for "hauntings".
ALL of these things ALWAYS have perfectly normal explanations - but the gullible keep on believing and keep on bleating "We can't really KNOW, can we?"
Yes we can, And we do. There are no ghosts.
I suspect that I have experienced infrasound.
Several times a year I drive over the Tobin bridge in Boston. Normally that is uneventful, but in recent years I have had several strange reactions of fear bordering on panic as I crossed over.
The first time it happened, I assumed that the slight fear of heights I have had worsened. However, later that month I drove down to Virginia and wasn't bothered by any of the bridges I went over and I wasn't bothered by the Tobin the next time I went over it.
Then, it happened again. Real fear flooded me and I had to concentrate very hard on controlling my driving. Since then, it happens maybe one out of three times. Other crossings are made without reaction.
I suspect that the old girl is creaking in the wind and at times she puts out frequencies that my subconscious brain doesn't like. Maybe it thinks the bridge is about to collapse (and maybe it is!) and frantically wants me to get the heck off it.
Or (as the gullible people here might think), it's a ghost that hangs out at the bridge and sometimes decides to catch a ride with me. Sure, that makes more sense: let's go with the ghost explanation!
Maybe you're tuning in to someone elses fear, though I don't know why that should only happen on that specific bridge. i've had experiences a number of times where I've had a strong sense of someone elses emotions, and I suspect that I literally 'tune in' just as Penny described earlier.
Yes hearing, and seeing as was pointed to in your article. Paranormal is sometimes normal for others and yes can be explained. Science is helping these experiences be accepted.
My hearing is not that great at the best of times. I remember some years back I was in my office working away. There were two doors and a few meters of hallway between my office and reception. Whilst working away I heard clear as day the voice of a work colleague. One whom I needed to talk to about something. I thought she was headed my way and stopped what I was doing in anticipation of her coming to my door. A few minutes passed and she didn't appear. I went down the hallway to reception to ask where she had gone. Giving me a highly confused look she advised that my colleague wasn't there. Returning an equally confused look, I said but I heard her about five minutes ago and I heard her saying......whatever I heard at the time (cannot remember exactly what that was now) To which she replied in utter amazement, yes she said that when she "phoned" five minutes ago. You must have super hearing. I laughed at the humor of this notion and said in departing. Guess I must have.
Seems like some frequency of sound possibly coming in through the upstairs window was bothering the dog.
Of course, the boy was 2-1/2, have his eyes checked.
I'm reminded that when I was quite young I had mumps, which came with a very high fever. While in the midst of that, I hallucinated little devils crawling all over the furniture.
Not being a moron at any time of my life, I was highly amused by this as they were direct copies of the devils on the cans of deviled ham we had in our pantry. I was bright enough to realize that I was hallucinating, though I did not realize the danger that indicated. Fortunately I recovered anyway.
yes I have. I have seen what I am pretty sure was a ufo.I also believe I have a spirit that lives with me. And follows me when I move from state to state. When I moved from MI. he came. He has woken me up a few times from sleep. He has also thrown things at my fiancee. He is a believer too. We call him Roger.
I see dead articles........ I see them all the time......
I've had a couple of experiences, none of which mad me feel particularly convinced there's something out there one way or another. Strange though - and no idea what they were about or why.
I factored in drugs, tiredness, aclohol, neurons randomly firing, wakeful dreaming (heard of it, no idea what it is but reckoned it shouldn't be discounted), that kind of thing.
None of which were involved, though of course can't be sure of the neuron thing as half the time I'm not firing on full cylinders anyway.
Dunno. Mystery. Especially the woman I said goodbye to that had been dead several years.
When the Amazing Randy announces that he's found a ghost or a valid psychic, I will pay attention. He's got a million dollar purse for any psychic that can pass muster.
I'm reminded of Yuri Geller who was fascinating the world with his spoon bending antics - until he appeared on the Johnny Carson show. Carson was a master magician and Geller couldn't get anything past him. Somehow his powers didn't work that night.
That being said, I was accepted to Duke University to major in parapsychology (specifically telepathy) under J.B. Rhine. However they told me that I would have to spend a lot of time studing ghosts and I had no interest in that. So I went Business School. The parapsychology major included a lot of math, science and engineering, so that you'd be able to spot phonies.
Honestly? No, I've never had any paranormal experiences.
But once, when I was little and on a school trip, my whole room was kept up by this strange noise outside. It sounded like singing. And it was the middle of the night, and we'd already circulated rumors that the house we were staying in was haunted, so we all freaked out. Eventually our teacher came to ask why our room's light was still on, and we explained we could hear a strange eerie singing outside.
And she rolled her eyes and said, "That's the caretaker, you stupid boys. He's humming to himself."
Actually my first job was working at a tiny consulting company in Cambridge, MA that was housed in an old Victorian House. Some of us had to spend long nights working in the enclosed porch area on the second floor. We would hear muffled voices every so often.
When you were pulling an all-nigher alone it could get quite spooky. It started to get hard to get people to work out there alone.
But one afternoon around Christmas the voices got really LOUD and they were having a party! Who knew ghosts celebrated Christmas. It was then that someone noticed a small pipe near the baseboard that connected us to the Victorian porch next door. (We never could figure out why it was there.) That consulting firm was having a party. We waved through the window and they waved back for us to join them.
It seems that they were having the same fears about being haunted as well.
Geez, I thought this was going to be a fun thread???? Figures...
I don't have any stories to tell, but I do love to watch all the paranormal shows that are on TV these days...
I have two things to say, first once again a couple of people have made sure that those who care to discuss this sort of thing, will not be allowed to. They cannot seem to just speak their piece and let others do the same, live and let live, but make sure that after each post have something negative and belittling to say.
Secondly, I wonder if those same people know that Hell will be just as hot whether or not they believe in it now.
You mean, negative and belittling like this fine example:
My father always told me "Two wrongs don't make a right"...it'd be nice if everyone would just let up, and let the thread go in the direction it was meant to...for once...
OHHHHH....you said "pray".........
The direction? Well, the question was if anyone had had any paranormal experiences or encounters--I think it's a fun thing to talk about, so do many others, so what's wrong with having a light-hearted topic????
Oh, I see, my apologies, this thread was created in order for those who wish to pretend to share their fantasies with others. Sorry, I was under the impression this was an adult forum.
Beelzedad, I think you like to argue too much.
Oh I see that some jumped on my negative comment, but the fact remains that there are those that care to discuss the paranormal, and there are a couple of people that are unwilling to allow it to be.
I know there is a spiritual world right here, one dimension away from us, and that those practical minded that must have everything proven to them will not allow themselves to see into that realm, and call names and belittle anyone who does. This is a free country, and if you disagree, do so and let others have their say too. Are you two capable of such behavior?
Are we holding your hands so that you're not able to type the words on your computer screen and hit the "Submit" button? No, we are not, hence no one is stopping anyone else from discussing the paranormal.
In fact, whether you believe in the paranormal or are just attempting to find rational explanations for the claims to the paranormal still amounts to discussion.
Of course, who called you a name? Report them if you feel compelled to do so.
It's not difficult to understand that a spiritual world cannot exist and that the evidence of such a realm exists only in the minds of believers. Obviously, no one can "see" into such a realm unless it does in fact exist and can enter our realm. At that point, it will in fact be violating our physical laws.
These are contradictions that no believer has ever explained, other than their gods are all-powerful, hence they can do whatever they want.
There are many believers who make the exact same claims about their own gods.
I was asleep one night and was awakened by the sounds of steps (on the wood floor) walking toward my bedroom. I lived on the top floor so it wasn't above me. I was so afraid, as I though someone had broke into my apartment. When the steps got to my bedroom door, they stopped. When I looked up something jumped on me, but no one was there. I could not move or speak. In a minute or two, whatever it was left.
I used to experience half-awake-half asleep encounters with my dead husband, usually between 2-4am. But I didn't freak out. He was just visiting, I guess, so when I woke up I'd say a prayer and talk as if he was still there. I made a "report" about me and his 2 daughters. This happened for a solid ten years after his death.
Others believe this is some kind of weird, that I had to help him find his place in the afterlife. So in my last encounter with him, I told him to let go, I didn't open the door and he went away sad. He still comes in my dreams but not regular anymore. He does at regular intervals with our eldest. He seems to be at peace and happy now.
In my grandparent's house, there were many strange happenings. Sounds of footsteps coming up the hall to the living room, followed by the door handle turning back and forth. The dog, who was outside and who was barking at a spot in the garden, when he was raised into the air and was then thrown across the garden. And an elderly woman and a man who were seen by more than one member of the family. My grandparent's home was built in 1939, yet, when they moved into it in 1941, they were already the third family to live in the property. Since my nan died in 1984, following which my granddad moved house, there have been several different families living there, although none have stayed for a long time.
To get back to what this thread is really all about, here is a fun news story about a theme park ride in England having to be moved because of ghostly goings on
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20110207/tuk … dbed5.html
And here is a balanced piece from the Times on what research is going on in the UK in regards to scientific research of the paranormal. While no one is denying that there are frauds and flakes out there, there are some very good mediums in the UK who give very accurate information. I have seen Gordon Smith work, and he gives full names, life details etc
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_a … 378442.ece
I remember when I was younger a psychic or medium or whatever she was came from England. Her first trip to NZ. This is before the internet etc. The moment she took a foot off the plane she claimed to be speaking to this Woman. Her name was Mona Blade. I didn't even know who she was. My Mum however told me she went missing some 15 years back. This woman claimed to know where Mona Blades body was. She accurately described what police already new about the case. She also gave more details that were able to give the police a bigger picture. Not sure what happened after that as I lost interest.
Ohhhh that sounds pretty interesting! If you gain back the interest and find out what happened in the end, post a link to it here as I'd love to read up about it. I was always wondering do the police take all this seriously...
I had a couple exoeriences. One was my husband great grand father came to see me. He was dead before my husband was 3. I just turned the Tv off to go to sleep and I felt weird. I looked out my bedroom door and saw a shadow on the wall. I watched it and then I saw a man dressed all in white. He came right to the side of the bed and just staired at me. He went away after a few minutes. Thats was enough for me to get up and sleep with the light on. Any how I told my mom inlaw about it and she almost had a heart attack she said I saw her father. Well couple years later my husbands aunt died and they had recieved some photo albums from her place. Well I was look through it and I picked out the man I seen and his mom told me I was right. It's weird but who knows maybe there's a reason why he came to see me..
I've had plenty of paranormal experiences, ever since I was a little girl. They vary from foretelling dreams to full body apparitions. Easy, Beelyboy... I am not pretending that there is a rational explanation to what I've experienced, and I understand how someone who has never had a similar experience could easily think I'm delusional. It's not my problem what they think. I just know that TO ME these are real events and I don't take them for granted.
Yes, I know Klara, those events are always 'real' to the believer despite the fact that reality prohibits them from occurring.
You really do have a problem dealing with things you are afraid to face don't you?
Your fear is so intense that you MUST deny anything that cannot fit into your neat and tidy little boxes of thought.
You have been doing this for so long, you are convinced that unless it can be scientifically measured, it cannot exist.
That's a shame, I feel sorrow for you, and hope that one day your spiritual eyes will be opened.
Thank you for the condescension. Much appreciated and expected. I do hope you feel better now.
During my last paranormal experience, I had an out of body experience... I went on a spiritual journey all the way to Canada where I met this good looking man, who looked like Jackson Browne but with short hair! Do you believe me now?!
"Have you ever had any paranormal experiences or ghost encounters?"
Only on HP.
About a month ago, both my husband and I saw an image of my mother walking in the hallway of our house. She had passed away last July. She was wearing her red sweater which I now have and was hanging up in my closet. Strangely, it was not as scary as I thought something like that would have been. After we thought about it, we realized that it was the anniversary of the day she had arrived to visit us last year. While it would be nice to believe that her spirit is here with us, in my own personal opinion, I have a hard time believing that ghosts exist as conscious entities who interact with the living. I think that sightings of ghosts are recordings of events and for some reason, they can be visible from time to time. You can turn on the TV or watch an old film to see otherwise dead people in action.
Awww that's very sweet, Maybe It was her and she was checking up on her daughter. The anniversary part seems a little too coincidental.
Iontach, I don't think the image we saw was conscious. Though it would be nice to think she was checking up on me, she may be doing so in other ways. I don't think that encounter was it. I don't know what you mean by it being "too coincidental". We had forgotten it was the anniversary when we saw her. We had not seen her before or since that day. I stayed in her house after she died and did not see her in the house where she lived for nearly 50 years - which is where her ghost would appear if it was going to appear anywhere, I would think.
Another story - we used to often see my husband's cat going in and out of certain rooms of our house. My husband's cat disappeared when we got married. Neighbors said that he was found dead on the road but my husband could never confirm this. One time when my niece came to visit, without us telling her anything, she also saw him. We have not seen him for a few years now. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that we got a dog.
It is a common belief that ghostly images are recordings, rather than evidence of a conscious entitiy. However, I wonder if this were the case, why these images only appear after someone has died. If the image of your mother was a recording of her last visit, why did you not see it when your mother was still living? Recordings would surely not wait to play themselves back until the person they have recorded has died. Also, what exactly could record such an image? Life is not a movie set. Everything that happens, happens only once, there is no mechanism recording everything that we do. You can watch a movie, in which actors long-since dead appear. However technology was necessary to record that movie and to broadcast it via TV or copy it onto a dvd. From where does the technology come to record the living in everyday life, and what exactly plays it back?
A month after my cat died, my mother saw her jumping down from the chair and then run out through the door. This happened only once. Whilst she was living, she was never seen in more than one place at once. If her image was recorded, this could easily have happened. However, it was only after her death that this happened, as is the case in all ghostly images that are seen.
Recorded in your mind.
I've seen dead cats too. I was used to seeing the living cat, my brain expected to see it, so it saw it. Nothing paranormal about that.
Perhaps we have not tapped into that wave length yet. Just as images can show on a TV, prior to our ability to do so, it was just waves that could not be detected without the crystal.
Residual energy has been suggested by some. Not sure why it is more apparent on different days or at different times of the day? Could be the ion levels in the air or something.
There is a term for that... energy ripples or something like that. It is possible that the energy of a specific event gets recorded in the place where it happened and from time to time it echoes. However, you know when you are in presence of an actual entity when there is communication established.
Oh I just remembered another spiritual encounter I had!
It was YEARS ago when I was about 8ish on an a school tour in a place called Cavan in Ireland.
We were in a big group with the teachers in front and I happened to be at the end of the group with my friend Anthony.
I remember we were walking through an old forest while being told the history of the area, nothing really spooky now, but every now and then I saw there 'people' dressed in white outfits running from tree to tree!!!
I kept on telling my friend anthony but he didn't believe me so much.
Later we arrived at a tiny bridge with a stream underneath, and the tour guide began telling us a story about a teenage couple in the past. They were in the forest sitting on this little bridge one day but the girl fell of the side and hit her head on the rocks and sadly passed away. Apparently their ghosts wander the forest - Maybe that's what I saw???
That is strange! If only the girl died, I wonder why the other "person" is there? If ghosts do exist, I wonder if they realize they are dead, if they know they are ghosts.
There is a spiritual realm, whether some choose not to believe it. You have eyes that can see into that realm.
The first house we lived in may have had a ghost, spirit whatever. I'm saying maybe it did. First, I heard a lady speak to me. My two year old spoke back to her, so I wasn't hearing things.
No one would babysit at my home because they saw weird things. The lady spoke to my sister and showed her face in the TV set. She spoke to another babysitter too and she called me and I had to return home early, because she was too afraid to stay.
The fan turned itself off one night in front of three of us. The thermostat would move itself up and down. Other things happened too.
It was an old house. Ok, I'm not saying it was a ghost, but what was it then?
Wow...that seems pretty creepy, poor babysitters! What did people see and what did the ghost say to your sister??? Maybe I shouldnt be asking these questions right before bed, lol.
For all of the people acting like we are a bunch of liars. Winston Churchill stayed in Lincoln's bedroom at the White house and claimed that Lincoln spoke to him that night.
Now why would Churchill lie about something like that. He was already in the spotlight and had nothing to benefit from it.
It bothers me a lot, some people here who seem to consider some of our experiences as lies and us as liars. A certain somebody referred to me as a liar as I mentioned that lights happened to turn off when i walked by them...
How would he know, was he there with me?
On many of these occasions I was with some friends of mine, parents, sisters, partner etc... and they have all seen it and even called me a total freak. lol.
It only happens when I have a spike of a certain emotion.
I think we should all keep an open mind and some people should stop being so biased towards things they haven't experienced.
That brings to mind a story my brother in law told us some time back. He was about 10 walking with his grandfather on a long bridge somewhere in Rarotonga. He saw two men coming toward him but they didn't look like they belonged to that era and were English. What he found odd was they were dressed in Tall Hats and tail coats. As they passed he heard his Grandfather say "be gone". At that moment he turned around and they had gone. He says there was no where to go except to finish the journey on the bridge. Even if they ran they could not have made it off the bridge. and out of site in that minute he took to turn around. Amazing.
No way so the grandfather knew what was happening? Did your brother in law ask his grandfather about it? So interesting! i keep thinking that maybe they were English colonists
Oh yes he did ask. His grandfather simply said. They do not belong in this time, forget about them. It wasn't till he had other experiences did he understand what that meant. He was older too.
Yes he thought they may have belonged to the settlers from another time. Apparently their lineage goes back to Queen Victoria era don't remember all the details but his name was William Marsters in the atoll of Palmerston.
Your claim clearly violates the physical laws of the universe and completely ignores the biology of the human body, specifically the brain.
You are free to contact James Randi and show him your remarkable talents. He will hand over one million dollars to you if you can.
Of course, the round of excuses as to why you won't contact him is forthcoming.
I this addressed to me? Well my amazing magical powers occur very rarely and only when I have a spike of a certain emotion...Like for example when Im sad due to somebody I love passing away or when I'm sad having been broken up with...so i'f you'd like to introduce me to this Randi fellow and then kill everyone I love and get my my lover to brake up with me then maybe lights may start turning off.
If this stuff really bugs you then why don't you read through another forum, bring your negativity elsewhere.
Really? You actually claim to have "amazing magical powers"?
"the Foundation offers a $1,000,000 prize to any person or persons who can demonstrate any psychic, supernatural or paranormal ability of any kind..."
http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/abo … ation.html
Has anyone noticed that Beezedad has 4,535 posts and only 2 hubs? Obviously his purpose on Hubpages is not to be a part of us, but to debate those who have faith and spirituality. I will not waste my time responding to his posts.
No worries, I will continue to point out hypocrisy and contradictions. You need not respond if you are frightened or feel you don't have the intellectual capacity to explain the hypocrisy and contradictions. I am your servant, sir/madam.
Well if you have nothing better to do than being one dimensional with the personality of a block of wood then feel free to waste your precious time on my hypocritical forum post . Sweetheart be my servant any day.
Thank you for the personal insult. Clearly, I touched a nerve, and I suspect that nerve was intellectual honesty, or the lack thereof.
Clearly myself and many people here touch much of your nerves considering you spend all your time insulting people and being disrespectful. Go outside and smell the roses, seriously.
You think that because I may believe in a specific notion that that is a reflection on my intellectual capacity, well you believe that if you want. Sit there and continue being all smug with yourself.
Tell me about it 2besure...he's now my servant though, as he mentioned, so try not to upset him, ok? lol you don't want to deal with the likes of him.
LOL! I have also noticed the user name Beelezdad. Matthew 12:24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.
Beelebub literally "Lord of the Flies. The bub was removed and replaced with dad. Interesting choice in names and it tells me all I need to know. Funny Satan was in the beginning with God and created by God! He chooses to use Stan's name. I guess he doesn't know Satan is a spiritual being. Interesting!
Here's my supernatural experience:
I saw this thread and thought "Cool....something unusual and different. This ought to be interesting". But by page 2, it's already started. What started as a fun and interesting thread ended up with that good ole pompous, domineering, perfection dart from the same forum admirals who grace us with their most intelligent 'better than you' swipes....those that spoil the animation and fun with their supposed superiority.
The daring admirals feel a need to creep from the crevices to haunt those who don't hold the high intelligence of the superiority of the forum admirals. Beware those with differing levels of knowledge! Beware those with a form of belief other than what the admirals promote, for you are banished to the dungeon of dolts from their book of correction
As I was left with a bitter taste of spoiled milk, I vomited and cringed in horror to realize it had come to this crisis. And I'm left in awe in the shadow of arrogance from the forum admirals. Tut-tut.
Oh thats not supernatural. Perfectly natural here.
My goodness, I had no idea this thread's purpose was for adults to allow their imaginations to run amok, which must be the "fun" referred. So sorry, kiddies. Please return to the regularly scheduled programming.
I have had so many experiences with the paranormal, it is difficult to know where to begin. I suppose the best way to share it all with you is to make a summery.
I have a ghost child in my house names Jacob, he is about 12 years old, died in the early 1920’s. He is a prankster always showing up in the bathroom when I or my wife are in the shower. Or tugs on my shirt when I am cooking a meal. He has woke me up a couple times when my blood sugar goes dangerously low. (I am diabetic type 2.) Now I am not sure how he knows, but he dose.
It is hard to talk about this stuff to people, because you will have the skeptics, and the nay-Sayers that want to put you down when you share. But I will believe as what I believe because it has happened to me, and my wife, and it has happened to loads of other people. Whom ever it was that started this forum thank you.
Awww thats really cute. Don't worry about the naysayers. If you haven't seen snow doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
hehe amen to that....
Last night I was getting ready for bed, and I had just turned on my tv and put in a movie. ( I cant sleep without some sort of noise either the tv or a radio.) Just as I laid back, I saw the door which leads from our bedroom to the bathroom swing open and then closed. I admit it still freaks me out when that sort of thing happens, but I also know that spirits are just people; if they were good in life, they will be good in spirit, and, if they were bad, they will be that way in spirit. I just laid back, and said, "Good night Jacob." and there was a giggle, and the door to our spare/storage room opened and closed. This room was once his room when he lived here. I settled down and then fell fast asleep. However, at about 3am (the real bewitching hour.) I woke up and jacob was in full body, and he was sitting on the edge of the bed watching the movie I picked out, which is willy wonka and the chocolate factory cause I love the music, its very relaxing. He looked over at me and smiled, and I tested my blood sugar, and it was at about 70. so I ate a glucose bar, and drank some water. then went back to sleep. Again, I am not sure how he knows my blood sugar is going down, but as I have said before, he has saved my life on countless times. I will stop here before it turns into another novel....
As well, it is well known that folks with your blood sugar issues do experience delusions, dementia and hallucinations. Are you not taking this into consideration?
yes my wife saw Jacob, and she is not diabetic... And, I do not and have never had delusions, dementia or anything like that.... Of what I have read and been taught about low blood sugar, it can cause many symtoms, but Hypoglycemia. has never been connected directly with delusions, hallucinations or dementia. Yes the brain needs blood, oxygen and glucose for it to function normal, but Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) has never been found to cause anything like this.. My information comes from ADA, and the Mayo clinic.
LOL! You're kidding, right? The direct symptoms of Hypoglycemia are blurred or double vision, seizures, convulsions, hallucinations, confusion and a whole lot more, up to and including personality disorders.
These are indeed on the Mayo Clinics website:
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hypogl … N=symptoms
Seems like you never really did learn anything about your own medical condition or else you're not telling us the truth. If so, is that because you need to defend your ghost story?
I do not have to defend anything, not to you, not to anyone!
And the mayo clinic website dose not say anything about a diabetic ever eperiencing Hallucinations.. Blured vision and double vision that is all!
Any doctor will tell you this... Are you a doctor? Are you diabetic?
If not then bugger off!!!!!!!!!
After calming down, I need to say I am sorry I reacted like this. Most of the time I am a very peaceful person, but like a animal that is cornered, I come out with all claws. I respect your opinion about things, and I am again very sorry for my outburst. I wish I could delete my comment but I can't. I know sometimes things do sound fantastic when a person say that they have experienced thing, and it is our nature to debunk it, but I have lived with diabetes long enough to know what happens to me.
Again, I am truely sorry for my anger and hurtful words toward you...
Perhaps they have an access to energy levels that can be seen beyond the human eyes before it is manifested. Makes sense. I see that as a great thing that he has saved your life. Thanks for sharing
Thank you for your support. I don't understand why people feel the need to attack another person and attributing their experience to one thing or another.
Those that have never had their own experiences with the paranormal, will never know what its like to have these things happen.
You are a wonderful spirit yourself, and thank you for being a friend.
No worries, anytime.
It is history repeating itself over and over. People attack what they do not understand or what they fear. Fear of the unknown tends to make people do some very odd things. It is the pioneers of science and of thinking who have dared to go beyond their own fears and the fears of others to make such awesome discoveries. A lot of them skeptics too in the beginning.
There is a question i wanted to ask.
My question is: In every ghost story, A spirit or ghost of a man or woman is said to wear a white coat, dress and haunt a place. Does this happen everywhere? Is this related to religion? Why wear only white? White means purity then why these ghosts in white scare and hunt people?
I am going to tell my ghost story if anyone replies to this post of mine.
I think when we see a spirit in white, it is because they are manifesting themselfs in a way that is meant to not frighten us. If say you see a person standing in your room dressed as they would have before they died, you would freak out first and then be calling the authorities in cause you think they have broken into your house. As far as spririts doing harm, these are not spirits that are doing this. Demonic entities such as poltergeist which has never been granted a body, are behind the hauntings. Sprits of people who has passed on can not harm you, because they lack the energy to do physical harm. BUt again this is Demonic powers.... You do not have to fear spirtis of people,
Not true... You told me you were afraid of alligators... such harmless creatures!
Iontach, I just read through this thread. Thanks for posting it. Everyone's experiences with the supernatural are very interesting. It's always fun to hear about them.
Have fun in your box Pcunix-maybe in your next life you"ll learn something.
I'm new to Hublinks and was curious why the initial comment to me was deleted leaving my reply to stand alone like it was a first comment? Thanks
New-thought you were making derogatory remark to me-apoligize
Appreciate troozer, can't wait to start reading your thoughts and experiences, hope you you'll be ok learning everything you can do on here. One thing I did when starting was in the enthusiasm was to post before editing , you can correct but a lot of people may see first, sure your wiser than that though!
I'm a skeptical believer, and yes we do exist...or at least I do. Frankly I feel that we are still in the "baby steps" of scientific knowledge. I believe that as technology advances, things that are currently thought of as paranormal occurrences will in fact become another facet of the known physical world. Some physicist will exponentially prove some phenomena to be empirically true. Others, not so much…
Currently in my mid-thirties, I have experienced numerous “paranormal” and psychic instances. The first at the age of 12, and before any skeptics type it, no I DO NOT have large memory degradation.
My grandmother and great grandparents lived in the same house and I was visiting. I awoke at 6:08 am to what sounded like a herd of elephants running down the hall. (Yes I remember the exact time.) I got up and found my grandmother and great grandmother crying at the phone as they spoke to someone. (I didn’t know who at the time.) Not seeing my great grandfather I turned around and went to his room, where I found him lying on his bed, dead. (I had never faced death before so I didn’t know what was wrong with him.) I tried to wake him and when that didn’t work I cupped his face and kissed him goodbye, then left the room to join my grandmothers. They never let me go back into the room and frankly they wouldn’t have let me go in the first time if they had known…
That night I slept in my great grandfather’s bed. No one told me how he had died, just that he had gone to heaven and it was his time. Back then adults kept knowledge like that away from kids, for the most part. I woke up in the middle of the night with my chest hurting and having extreme trouble breathing. Just a nightmare you’d think, especially after what had happened that day. The problem with that theory was that the symptoms didn’t ease. I finally had to get up and go onto the screen enclosed front porch to stop the pain and shortness of breath. As I turned to face the back of the house I saw a shadow hunched over my great grandfathers tomato plants. As I stood there staring, the shadow stood up and faced me. It was my grandfather. He lifted his right arm and waved at me and then he just disappeared. I never had another problem sleeping in his bed… I found out years later that he had died of a heart attack.
That was my first experience with the paranormal. I’ve had many more instances since then. If anyone would like to know more, just let me know. (I’m new to Hubpages so I’m just learning my way around, please bare with me.)
That is highly unlikely considering all physicists know quite well that the paranormal violates several physical laws of the universe. Sorry, it ain't gonna happen.
Ah, but what if the laws of physics that are currently held as inviolate are proven to be lacking in some areas? There is no short and sweet equation that can connect the macro and micro in a definable way. Gravity always throws a curve ball. Science is ever expanding and constantly putting old theories to rest as new facts are uncovered. Why is it so hard to believe that science could one day actually explain ideas that are currently held as “paranormal” and laughable by most scientists?
Ooh the sarcasm. Science in general is filled with loop holes. (Ask any researcher being driven insane trying to prove it.) How can there be an absolute rule when the very foundation of life changes systematically due to external and internal pressures?
The last I heard Einstein tried his whole life to create an algorithm that concisely combined the macro and micro. (His hair stood on end for a reason. Jk) It was one of the very few things he left incomplete. Steven Hawkings is working on it, and I’m sure most people have heard about the outcry he engendered a short time ago… No one has come out with an E=MC2 that has combined both. If I am wrong in this please let me know where I can research the relative :-) information.
Hmmm, to name a few oldy but goodies: The sun circles the earth, the earth is flat and if someone sailed to the horizon they’d fall off the planet. Black holes are impossible. (How can physical matter (interpret whole planets here) be spaghettified and just disappear? Where would the matter go? Matter = matter!)
Consider ley lines or even my personal favorites the Bermuda Triangle and the Dragon Triangle. Unexplained disappearances, magnetic fluctuations, energy lines criss crossing the earth, chaos theory…. My point is that everyone INCLUDING physicists believes in things on faith. Numbers cannot be touched, breathed or seen unless someone writes them down. (I can already feel the fingers twitching to reply to that one!) The physical laws were created by man based upon what they believed they observed around them, and then taken to be absolute truths. Who can be so omnipotent to state unequivocally that they know all the factors that exist in this universe at this stage of our evolution and knowledge? Can you truly state there is no such thing as “paranormal” phenomena without it being your belief based on the facts, that to you are complete truths?
Sorry for the book everyone.
No, it isn't. Science is a method of understanding the world around us. (
Please explain what you're talking about, what external and internal pressures are you referring?
No idea what you're talking about, please explain. It looks like a strawman.
Is there some point to that babble?
That looks mostly like nonsense.
No, physicists use the Scientific Method and evidence.
Pure nonsense. Clearly, you have no idea how science works.
Believers, of course. Certainly, science does not make such claims.
If course, the claims presented by believers of the paranormal are easily refuted by the laws of physics.
The question is, can you show any hard evidence to support the paranormal? Anything? Of course, not. If there were, we would all know about it.
Youch, I think you hurt my feelings. Not much into philosophy huh?
Short and sweet, relatively: For the most part, most scientists would refute ANY "supernatural" evidence in this day and age because it is not measureable and repeatable within a strictly regulated laboratory setting where control and test groups are carefully monitored. How can something be measured for accuracy and variation, if no standard measuring system even exists? Nor do we truly have creditable technology (that we know of) to ensure accurate recording of results. Until then, the "paranormal" will continue to seem as if it breaks the laws of physics as we know them. It will be considered idiocy by the scientific community by and large while those people who have actually experienced it will know it exists and continue to believe.
And yeah I do.
Or, the fact that the supernatural, as claimed by those who believe in it, violates the physical laws of the universe. Refutation is a foregone conclusion, that is, unless the believers can bring forth an explanation rather than just pretending.
Do you really know and understand those laws, or do you just pretend to know them?
Yes, I'm sure those who believe will continue to believe despite the facts of reality. They will pretend to have "special powers" just like a little kiddie.
I am not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. However I do try to keep up to date. To be able to even read some of those research papers you have to be a little bit above pretending. Especially when you get into theoretics. To try and prove a theory theoretically correct with just equations...Yeah I'd just rather read the theory itself.
Frankly I think most occurences can be explained scientifically, but there are those few that are just different enough to take me into the what if??? Plus I like philosophy a lot to, so that just keeps it going for me.
Thanks for the debate, it was fun.
Mathematics is the language of physics, without it, there is not much one can gain in understanding of physics. Of course, the violations of physical laws in regards to the paranormal is not theoretical, it is very well understood and shows that anything claimed thus far is entirely impossible to occur. In other words, it isn't possible for ghosts and goblins to exist, as claimed by paranormal believers.
Whatever so-called occurrences you refer most likely have quite innocuous explanations. Most of it I find, is folks who are just pretending to have "special powers" and are for the most part, peddling snakeoil.
You want paranormal? When I was young - about 5 years old my Granpa pass away. Everyone went to the hospital except me & my other sister. We played am empty can, I sit on the opposite side of the floor and my sister on the opposite side. We start rolling the can to each other. Later on my sister stop playing so I continued to play by myself.
I continued playing all by myself and the can keep on rolling back and forth as if someone was there in the opposite side to push the can to me. I'm not sure who saw me if it was my sister or a cousin who told me that the can was rolling back to me by itself and they were so amazed how I did it -- to make the can roll back to me so smoothly and effortlessly without hitting the wall.
I thought they told my parents about it and my parents said that it was my grandpa who was playing with me. When I grew up and still remember what happened, I tried the rolling can again and it didn't work unless I roll it hard to make it bounce back.
The End of story.
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