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  1. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
    ShailaSheshadriposted 8 weeks ago

    I am writing articles for this website since past 3 months. At present, I have 38 featured and published hubs. I have joined for Amazon and google Adsense program. Past two months I earned like very less amount, less than 1/2 dollar. If I continue writing and publishing at the rate of one article for two days, how long I may take to draw my first payment?
    What is the portion of HubPages earnings in the total earnings?

    Experienced colleagues, help me, please...

    1. kbdressman profile image93
      kbdressmanposted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

      Your earning rate is dependent on more than just how often you write.  It depends on the quality of the articles and how well they rank on google.  It depends on how social you are here on hubpages.  It depends on how successfully you promote your work on social media.  World events and things outside your control have an effect as well. 

      Realistically, it's probably going to take longer as English doesn't appear to be your first language.  Somethings you might consider in working to increase your readership:  Do you have anyone proofread your hubs for you?  Have you done any research on SEO?  Are you regularly active in the forums? Do you respond to questions? Do you read and comment on other hubbers work?  How many of your hubs are on niche sites?  What's the quality of the media on your hubs?  Are your hubs attractive?  Are your topics things that google searchers are searching for?

      I can't tell you how long it'll take, and I don't want to be discouraging, but it will probably longer than you hope.  I would find other goals around the site and reasons to enjoy the platform to keep you going and learning as you work towards your first payout.

      1. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
        ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        O.k Thanks for your insights on Hub pages. I think, I will continue writing for some time and see the result. I don't know any other website to promote my articles either.

        1. HLKeeley profile image85
          HLKeeleyposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Pinterest draws a huge audience for me. I do not make a lot, but once I started posting pins on Pinterest, I got a lot more viewers who might accidentally click on an ad.

    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

      I agree with kbdressman.  I wrote here for quite some time before I made my first payout, but I also learned a great deal so consider the time I spent as a free education.  I've been here almost 5 years now and earn regularly.  However, don't count on earning enough to support yourself.  Few people ever achieve that goal.  Good luck.

      1. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
        ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        Thanks. Can I ask you, how much you are earning( approximately) monthly   after 5 years? Just for my calculations.

        1. Team Wiseman profile image85
          Team Wisemanposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          25 hubs, bout 80-100 bucks a month.

        2. Team Wiseman profile image85
          Team Wisemanposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Hubpages, in my opinion, is the place to write!

    3. Chriswillman90 profile image91
      Chriswillman90posted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

      It took me over 100 hubs and about a year and a half before making payout, so it can definitely take a long time. But once you hit that first payout things get a lot easier regarding earnings. Way too many newbies have unrealistic expectations regarding earnings and are unable to accept the cold reality of the online writing world.

      1. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
        ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        Thanks. I understood. One thing I want to ask you is, whether you can continue earning once you reach the regular payout point, even if you stop writing for a while?

        1. CMHypno profile image89
          CMHypnoposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

          I haven't written a new hub for at least a couple of years and still get paid every month.  Really must start writing again!

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            TheShadowSpecterposted 3 weeks ago in reply to this

            If that's the case, CMHypno, then you must have written some really interesting articles.  Either that or you have excellent marketing skills in driving traffic to your articles.  Or perhaps both.  Whatever the case may be, you must be doing something right.

            1. Marisa Wright profile image94
              Marisa Wrightposted 3 weeks ago in reply to this

              I'm similar to CMHypno and I know several other Hubbers in the same boat.

              I've written only a dozen or so Hubs in the last two years. I never, ever promote my Hubs (and haven't for the last six years or so).  I'm active on these forums only because it's my online "home" and a great excuse not to do any real work!   I've been receiving a monthly payout every month for eight of the nine years I've been here.

              1. TessSchlesinger profile image91
                TessSchlesingerposted 3 weeks ago in reply to this

                Well, unhappily, I left Hubpages in 2010/11 somewhere because I couldn't take the trolling on Hubpages. I met payout within three months and in under a year was making enough not to sneeze at it. I still left.

                This time it has been tougher. I only got back onto hubpages because I was transferred from another site which I wasn't much interested in. I had actually lost all interest in writing on the web However, I noticed that I was earning, so about a year ago, I started writing again. Get a payout monthly, nowhere near as much as I used to, but enough to keep writing. smile

                1. Marisa Wright profile image94
                  Marisa Wrightposted 3 weeks ago in reply to this

                  You're a very good example of why it's fine to leave HubPages - but if you leave, DON'T delete your Hubs.

                  It frustrates me that people don't understand they can earn good income here without ever having to interact with other Hubbers.  So if you have a trolling problem, or you get fed up with the forums or the Q&A, all you have to do is switch off comments, ignore the forums, and let your Hubs sit quietly and earn money while you go and find a new place to socialise. It won't have a material effect on your earnings.

                  1. TessSchlesinger profile image91
                    TessSchlesingerposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

                    You are quite right. However, at the time, I didn't know what trolling was. I had no idea what I was doing to deserve the malice that was coming at me. It took me two years on Google Plus to begin to understand that people were self-interested and what trolling was. I took me another year and a half to understand that the best way of dealing with trolling was to simply delete their comments and block them.

                    It might have helped in management had a trolling policy and if they intervened, but they didn't. I wrote to them about it several times. Their attitude was 'Not our problem. Do what you like'

                    Yes, I regret deleting the hubs, but one lives with one's mistakes.

                    What can I say?

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                    TheShadowSpecterposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

                    Marisa?  I'm curious about something.  I haven't been with Hubpages for very long, and here is my question.  Why is it that the sign-up instructions for Hubpages warns newcomers about monetizing through Adsense before they have published their tenth Hubpages article?  I would think that after someone has successfully published their fifth Hubpages article and are out of what is called "writer's boot camp," then it would be the perfect time for them to monetize on their articles through Adsense and their other advertising methods offered by Hubpages.

          2. Rana Musawar Raza profile image59
            Rana Musawar Razaposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

            hey can i ask which type of articles should be written on hubs just example???????????????????????????

        2. N376 profile image82
          N376posted 3 weeks ago in reply to this

          It's been quite some time since I have published a new article. It would be five years now. I have a few accounts. Some here, some were on Squidoo before it moved over. And I continue to earn money each month. Some accounts pay out monthly, others take a few months, some take even longer.

          I did nothing in terms of promoting these articles. Though I put in a lot of hard work for a few years.
          I'm back now tidying up broken links and updating the Amazon articles. Tidying things up. Because I believe that the articles will be the better for it and my earnings can improve.

    4. NateB11 profile image93
      NateB11posted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

      It can take some time to make a payout on HP. Anywhere from 6 months to a couple years, depending on the traffic your Hubs receive.

      It's really dependent on traffic. Organic traffic specifically. Which mean to earn money you have to know how to get traffic. This involves either writing a lot of articles, knowing how to use social media to promote articles or learning SEO. SEO primarily means that you know what keyword phrases to use in titles, you know what phrases to use in titles that people will be looking for via the search engine (mainly Google). Understanding SEO as far as I"m concerned is the best way to go, because then you get organic traffic and don't have to constantly work for it.

      You can get traffic just by writing and writing about what you know and love, but it will be hit or miss as far as getting traffic goes; might or might not work.

      1. NateB11 profile image93
        NateB11posted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

        Oh, and I always say this to people who are trying to figure out how to get traffic and earn here, because I think it's a good idea: You should read Wrylilt's Hub on getting keywords from Google Auto Suggest. It's a good starting point. Keep in mind Hubs should be of good quality too, well written with details, useful info, easy to read, well formatted,etc.

      2. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
        ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        Thanks for your advice. I observe, all of you have a greater score. Hence, you have more experience on hub pages. I couldn't make out what do you mean by 'organic traffic'. Most of my articles are on food and health. Is it o.k? Or I have to switch to some other niche?

        1. NateB11 profile image93
          NateB11posted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

          Organic traffic means "natural" traffic - traffic that comes from visitors who've used a search engine like Google. Non-organic traffic traffic would be traffic from links and social media. Links are good though. If people post links to your site, it's good for your article, can make it get a good position in search results on the search engines.

          I'm not too familiar with the viability of articles on food and health. I thought they do well, not sure. Probably depends on how well you've narrowed down the subject.

        2. Sherry Hewins profile image95
          Sherry Hewinsposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

          Having a high score has nothing to do with earnings. I had a great score for 3 years, even reaching 100 for months at a time. I was earning pennies. Many others have said this before, but I'm telling you from experience. Pay no attention to the score.

    5. peachpurple profile image75
      peachpurpleposted 3 weeks ago in reply to this

      Have you tried sharing your post links to social media sites; twitter, FB, Linkedin , etc....

      It does help to increase your page views.

      The more your views comes in per day, your earning increases.

      I had been here for 7 years already.

      Last month alone, I had earned $3.50 but I didn't post any hubs for 1 year, since I have more than 100 hubs here....

      But, I do keep sharing my hubs post links at social media sites and other writing sites, it helps to increase $$$

    6. aleciajeanne profile image82
      aleciajeanneposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      It took 3 years to cash out.BUT,i only had 16 articles.and i had stopped writing two years before. Recsntly i have been sharig them.And also editing the title so its more search friendly.You want to get your articles on facebook,pintetest,twitter etc. And ping them to help create backlinks. You can do that on pingbomb .com , you just put the article link and it will create backlinks.it helps alot.

    7. easylearningweb profile image90
      easylearningwebposted 13 days ago in reply to this

      Hi and Welcome to Hubpages,

      I agree with the others that it could take awhile to get a payout. I have been on Hubpages for 7 years now, just reached by 7th Hubbiversary! This is a great community and great to start out if you love writing and want to share info. I found it helpful to create my own 30 hubs in 30 day challenge...it was good practice in writing.

      It can take a few months to reach the $50 payout. I am not as active as in past. There was more traffic for all of us a few years ago. The more active you are, the more your traffic may increase.

      Someone asked about an apprenticeship. I would have loved to have done that but I don't think they are running that anymore.

      I will soon write about my 7 year writing experience on Hubpages.

      Keep on writing and good luck on Hubpages!

      Regards,
      Easylearningweb
      (Amelia)

  2. earner profile image86
    earnerposted 8 weeks ago

    Stop writing and see how you can improve/promote what you've already written.

    I very very rarely write any new hubs any more. 

    I get a payout every month.

    1. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
      ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      You are lucky to get a regular payout. Because I am non-native, it matters.

      1. emge profile image84
        emgeposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        I have been on hub pages ges for 6 years and payments are nothing much. Don't expect payments of any value. Try Blastingnews.com where with 3 months I earned $ 613.

        1. Chriswillman90 profile image91
          Chriswillman90posted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Oh I beg to differ, you can most certainly get payments of very high value if your specialist subject is successful enough. It has done me a world of good.

    2. peachpurple profile image75
      peachpurpleposted 3 weeks ago in reply to this

      same with me, I don't post any new hubs here but still get $$$ every month without fail..

  3. Tantalusguy profile image81
    Tantalusguyposted 8 weeks ago

    I use a free site to give me SEO ideas: http://lsigraph.com/

    I'm relatively new to HP but I've been ghostwriting for a while and this is the tool I use for my freelance work.

    Hope it helps.

    1. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
      ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      Thanks. I will continue writing for a few months and will see the result.

  4. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
    ShailaSheshadriposted 8 weeks ago

    Thanks, Tantalusguy. I will see the website mentioned by you.

  5. DrMark1961 profile image90
    DrMark1961posted 8 weeks ago

    Hi Shaila I wanted to add some information that might be helpful to you. Although your recipes are very interesting, they are not going to be searched for very often. The most popular recipe searches are for things like chocolate chip cookies, chocolate cake, etc. Does that mean you should start writing recipes like that? Not at all. You just need to realize that the recipes your write are not going to get much traffic. What is the best solution?
    Write more recipes.
    (If you are looking for more popular recipe subjects, you might write about a vegan curry dish. Almost all the curry dishes I see are for types of meat. Curry is a common word that Americans type in when looking for an Indian recipe. Vegan is also popular now. Play around with this.)
    I do not agree with earnerĀ“s suggestion. He said to just stop writing and improve/promote what you already have. Okay, maybe when you have about 150 or so. As chriswilliam90 points out, it took him over 100 hubs to make payout. Read his subjects. It may take you a lot more.
    Hubpages only takes 40% of your earnings. Writing a hub every few days is bound to help. Maybe you will even hit on that great hub that will get 1000 page views per day, and when it is added to your other hubs the total views/day will be significant.
    If you are only on the Google adsense program, I do recommend you switch to the HP program. The earnings are better.
    Good luck.
    edit: A lot of newbies have problems with titles. Yours titles are great, definitely not the problem. Keep going!!!

    1. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
      ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      I don't know, how to express my thanks to you! You have given me good advice. I will continue writing, I know I have fewer articles to my credit.
      I don't know about HPprogramme. What is that? please explain.

      1. DrMark1961 profile image90
        DrMark1961posted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        That is the program that allows HP to show their ads on your page, instead of just Googles. It earns a little better.
        If you want to try it, go to the "my account" page, there is a section about earnings. Click that, and near the top of the page there is a section about the ad program. It should be marked "active" for you to be earning more from HP. If it is not, click on "configure" and they will ask you to activate/deactivate the program.

  6. Marcy Goodfleisch profile image93
    Marcy Goodfleischposted 8 weeks ago

    Welcome to the site, Shaila!

    I agree with the suggestions already posted here. One thing you'll need to do is to increase your Hubber score (that's the small number appearing on your profile photo). Our scores need to be above a certain number for our work to be seen in Google (I am not sure of the current number - it might be 85). I think each hub has to have a certain score, too - it's been a while since I read the criteria.

    That is not meant to be punitive to anyone, it is a filtering mechanism Hubpages has to ensure the content Google sees is of the highest quality. It can take a while for a new writer's score to increase, and the quality of writing, skills in English and overall quality of the hub (such as use of photos, layout, length, etc.) are factored into it. 

    Your recipe titles sound delicious - I am primarily a vegetarian, and I love Indian food. I didn't read any of them closely, but I'd suggest briefly describing them in English (explain what a falafel is, for example, for those who may not know) and making sure all ingredients are translated into what we'd find in grocery stores in the USA or UK - what would we look for?  The reason for this is that the readership here is primarily English speaking.  You might also want to include international measurements and guidelines as well as the ones we use in the USA (such as the way we set ovens).

    If your recipes are from another source, rewrite them enough to put them in your own words, and use other text to personalize each hub and make it more original. Use plenty of good, non-copyrighted photos, and cite the sources. Try to get your recipes to the quality level used for the special site HubPages has created for recipes, and then submit them for consideration.

    A wonderful coworker I had a few years ago was from India and during one of our staff potlucks or birthdays, she brought in a recipe that had an ingredient similar to cream of wheat - it was savory, and was a great side dish. i tried hard to make it (even got the recipe) and I have yet to get it right I will try to watch your recipes in case you have on similar someday, and maybe I can finally master that dish! 

    It takes a long while for Google to know you're here and to rank your material in ways that get views. I get regular revenue now (not enough to live on, of course), but there were ups and downs in the site's traffic recent years when revenue was not as regular.

    Best of luck with your writing here - and thanks for introducing yourself to us!

    1. calculus-geometry profile image86
      calculus-geometryposted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

      Marcy, there's no hubberscore minimum or hubscore minimum that makes your hubs visible to search engines, aka featured. It is determined on a hub by hub basis via QAP.  A user with a hubberscore of 76 may very well have all their hubs featured, and featured hubs could have scores in the 70s and 60s.  It's better for people to focus on writing and formatting if they want their hubs featured.

      1. Marisa Wright profile image94
        Marisa Wrightposted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

        I was about to post to say the same thing.  I think Marcy is confusing it with the rule about "no follow" links IN Hubs.  Except for people trying to promote a website or blog, that rule needn't concern the average Hubber.

      2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        When your score drops below 85, your links become no follow.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image94
          Marisa Wrightposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

          ....which is only a problem if you're using those links to promote another website.   Real readers can still follow the links.

    2. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
      ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      Thanks, all of you. I gained some idea on how to continue on hub pages. I cook food myself. All food photos are clicked by me. I am a vegetarian, sometimes use egg in my recipes. Because I cook Indian and Indo-Chinese  food, there may be fewer searches. I have to find out the way to promote my articles. It is a great feeling to know that you all are very helpful.

  7. Marcy Goodfleisch profile image93
    Marcy Goodfleischposted 8 weeks ago

    Thanks for clarifying, Marisa and GC - obviously it's been a while since I read the guidelines. Sorry for posting misinformation - I was going to edit the post, but the window of time for editing has closed!

    1. Marisa Wright profile image94
      Marisa Wrightposted 8 weeks ago in reply to this

      I recall it was a common misunderstanding at the time, so you're not alone!

    2. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
      ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      Thank you, Marcy. Tell me the name of the Indian food which you wanted to cook. I think, I can explain you about that.

  8. stephenteacher profile image85
    stephenteacherposted 7 weeks ago

    You are writing on hub pages, not necessarily your own site. That means if you leave it up tohub,you may get very little traffic, no earnings. It is really up to you to promote your hubs and bring the people in. But even then, the revenue goes mostly to hub. Sure, some make money, but I assume the vast majority do not make much more (or less) than you do. Sending traffic to your own sites may be a better idea if you are wanting to earn quite a bit.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image94
      Marisa Wrightposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      @Stephenteacher, the money does NOT go mostly to HubPages.    Most of the money goes to the Hubber.   

      A lot of people seem to think that HubPages is raking in the money and paying writers peanuts. That's not how it works. Earnings are split 60/40. 

      For several years, Relache ran an annual survey of Hubbers and found that most of them earn less than $10 a year.  That means HubPages makes less than $8 a year from those Hubbers. 

      HubPages makes money because a few writers write high-earning articles that earn spectacularly more than the average.  Those Hubs are only a small percentage of total Hubs, but they earn over 70% of HubPages' income.  Those are the Hubs which have been used to create the new niche sites.

      The bottom line is that if the Hubber is making money, HubPages is making money.  If the Hubber is earnign peanuts, so is HubPages.

    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      stephenteacher:  Have you ever owned your own site?  Do you understand how difficult it is to set one up, let alone bring in enough traffic to make any money on it?  You have the wrong idea about HP, so should try to learn the facts before giving negatively biased advice.

      HP is a business.  They do all of the web work required to make this quite possibly the best writing site on the web.  Doing this isn't cheap.  They have to employ staffers, deal with Google, keep up with the financials, etc.  Writers here do't have to do any of that.

      Furthermore, their set up makes it easy for people to create professional looking articles here. 

      I have always considered this to be one of the most cleverly arranged and user friendly sites on the Web.

      As a result, I'm happy to give up 40% of my earnings because without them, I don't think I'd be earning anything much.  How do I know this?  I have my own site, and my success with it has been dismal, even though here at HP I've had more than 869000 page views.

      I knew nothing about how to create online articles when I came here, but this site gave me a free education that now allows me to earn here.

      So, before you warn people away, get your facts straight.  You always have the choice to create your own site, and if you think this is best, you should go ahead and give it a try.

      Just make sure that before you do, you know what you're doing.

      1. stephenteacher profile image85
        stephenteacherposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        I own and run several sites, and have since 1996.

      2. TessSchlesinger profile image91
        TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        Well said. I consider hubpages the best content writing site on the web. And I am extremely grateful for the support I get from so many.

    3. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
      ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      I think hub pages helps writers to earn money. I believe, I have to improve my writing skill to attract more traffic.

  9. Janda Raker profile image83
    Janda Rakerposted 7 weeks ago

    I agree with TimeTravel2 about using this website being MUCH easier and more successful than using another site or creating a site of our own and trying to compete. I wrote for about 3 years for Examiner.com, had some success, made a little money, and learned a lot. But that site was a poor imitation of HubPages, much less easy to use, and brought in fewer readers and a lower quality of writing. AND in August or so of this year (2016), it became an all-entertainment site, leaving the rest of us writers with nothing, no product online! I retain the rights to my writing and photos, so now I'm rewriting, to fit HubPages guidelines AND to get on the niche sites. But it is frustrating, as I'm mostly rewriting, not writing creatively. However, I feel HubPages is much more secure, offering a stronger platform for my writing. And niche travel site WanderWisdom is much more inviting to the reader! I do have my own website, and I can link to HubPages from it, but I don't see how it could ever compete with HubPages.

    1. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
      ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      Thanks. I have a doubt. Please... if  the writer stops writing for Hubpages and wants to come out of it, whether the author has the right on his already published articles? whether he can reuse them somewhere else?

      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        All writers at HP hold copyrights to their own work.  So, if you choose to leave the site, simply delete your articles after making sure you have copies of them and notify the team that you are departing.

  10. SANJAY LAKHANPAL profile image88
    SANJAY LAKHANPALposted 7 weeks ago

    The first payment depends on views.

    1. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
      ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      Thanks, Sanjay. I am working on it. If you don't mind, how long it took you to  get your first payment? Just to get an idea about my future earning on HP.

      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image94
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

        You can't gauge your own success here by somebody else's, so hearing how others did with payment times won't help you much.  Some people take a year and a half or more, some never make it, and some earn very quickly.  Much depends on your knowledge of how to write online, use SEO, and, of course, your subject matter and writing ability.

  11. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
    ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago

    Yeah.. I have already activated that. Thank you.

  12. TessSchlesinger profile image91
    TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks ago

    From experience, the first time I joined hubpages, it took me three months to reach my first payout. The second time I joined, I got transferred here and it was about 9 months before I took any interest. It took a long time to reach first payout - about 6 months, and then a payout every 2 months for 6 months, and after that a payout every month since then.

    Payout depends strictly on the degree of traffic you receive, and that depends on whether your topic is searched for on the web and whether it is on page one. To do reasonably well, you need to have your article in number one place on the SERPS.

  13. ShailaSheshadri profile image80
    ShailaSheshadriposted 7 weeks ago

    Thanks. I hope I will understand the things slowly with my experience and guidance from seniors.

  14. Janda Raker profile image83
    Janda Rakerposted 7 weeks ago

    Thanks, Tess. It's good to know your timelines, even if it is somewhat discouraging. So you're saying that we just need to be patient! And write well about the RIGHT topics! :-)

    1. TessSchlesinger profile image91
      TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks ago in reply to this

      Yup. Aim to become number one on the SERPS.

  15. melbel profile image91
    melbelposted 3 weeks ago

    Quality. Not quantity.

  16. theraggededge profile image95
    theraggededgeposted 3 weeks ago

    Me neither - it must be well over three years now. I barely touch them as some have (too) many Amazon capsules, but Amazon sales make up a good proportion of earnings. They really need work, I know, because of right aligned images, etc. This month I earned the most I've ever earned since the Apprentice program all that time ago - but still not as much as at Squidoo hmm

    1. Janda Raker profile image83
      Janda Rakerposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      Is there still an apprenticeship program? I haven't seen anything about that in what I've been reading.

  17. Paul Edmondson profile image
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    Paul Edmondsonposted 3 weeks ago

    2017 is off to a great start. The type of publishing we innovated in 2006 is having a renaissance in 2017.

    My advice is go deep on the topic, take good photos and be original.

    Folks that incorporate Amazon with precision have outsized earnings. The key is to be specific and very deep. For folks interested in writing product reviews, read some of thewirecutter or homesweethome.

    Happy New Year!

    1. Marisa Wright profile image94
      Marisa Wrightposted 3 weeks ago in reply to this

      Do you think it's having a renaissance in general, or is it the niche sites that have caused the resurgence?   I'm also optimistic about 2017 for the HubPages family of sites - but I'm not seeing any sign of other generalist sites reviving.

      1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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        Paul Edmondsonposted 3 weeks ago in reply to this

        I think the broader industry, where we participate is setup for success in 2017. Over the last year, I've met with some of the largest publishers regularly where we both share insights and we follow each others progress.

        Breaking general sites into more focused sites has been a major factor, but it is also important to remember that there was extensive improvements before breaking sites up.

        The trends I see from the most savvy publishers closely related to us are continue buildout of focused sites (niche sites), heavy investment in editing (we caught on to this relatively early, but UGC sites like stack exchange and quora were a head of us - I suspect we will pass them in process in 2017), and better monetization (fewer high performing ads).

        For us, we need to do all of these, but also attract topical experts to continue to build on the foundation of each site.

        Internally, I often explain our approach as a reverse pyramid. Where we started at the leaf/bottom level and now need to continue to build up to where eventually, people flow through the top (homepage) and the entire experience makes sense.

        Clearly, lots to do, but the good news is network sites are healthy.

        1. NateB11 profile image93
          NateB11posted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Very interesting, love hearing about this stuff and where it's all going. From my viewpoint the niche sites are a definite success. Look forward to seeing what 2017 brings us.

      2. TessSchlesinger profile image91
        TessSchlesingerposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        Likewise. I took a look, and as far as I can see, Hubpages is the best at what it does. I realized a couple of years ago that Google was rewarding nice specific sites, and I am so happy that HP took this route. smile I see good things ahead. smile

        I also like the way the editors are set up now. Makes a lot of sense to me. smile

    2. Shirl Urso-Farmer profile image81
      Shirl Urso-Farmerposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      I'm still a newbie...can you tell me what exactly do you mean by incorporating Amazon with precision?

      1. greenmind profile image90
        greenmindposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        I believe that means choosing Amazon products carefully, and only using a few per Hub. Ideally you're able to talk about your first-hand experience with the product.

        1. Shirl Urso-Farmer profile image81
          Shirl Urso-Farmerposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          Thank you greenmind for the explanation smile

  18. Will Apse profile image90
    Will Apseposted 3 weeks ago

    I reckon the consistency with which editors apply rules will have a big impact on the growth of the sites.

    It requires a lot of work to produce a page that is good enough to rank well and earn money. A single lapse of judgement on the part of an editor and the rejection of a good-enough page, can lose the site a worthwhile writer.

    I would err on the side of including (rather than rejecting) borderline content as the niche sites strengthen but be prepared to dump any page that does not perform well.

    1. PaulGoodman67 profile image90
      PaulGoodman67posted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      Yes, it's not always clear why one hub makes it onto a niche and another doesn't.  The tips advice on editing are too broad/vague for someone like me who wants particular instructions/help on getting something featured in a niche site.  If a hub is never going to make it, it would be instructive to know that, so that energies can be spent elsewhere.

      1. Marisa Wright profile image94
        Marisa Wrightposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        If you get the email suggesting you make changes, you can safely ignore all the generic waffle in the first section, and just read the last bit which details specific issues.   Fix those and it will be moved.

        Apart from that, the only other tips I'd suggest are:

        (a) Use callout capsules instead of your main headings, the editors seem to like them;
        (b) If you're going to use right-floated capsules of any kind, use the Preview button to check they appear in the correct position on Mobile view, since that's the most important view;
        (c) Check off as many of the Stellar Guidelines (in the top right hand of the Hub in edit mode) as you can.

        And, of course, it mustn't break any of the stricter new rules. If you need to refresh on those, my Hub on the rules summarises them.

  19. Intuitive Clarity profile image88
    Intuitive Clarityposted 2 weeks ago

    promote promote promote. that is what brings in the money. If you think about it, if you promote your hub then adsense will put up the right ads for the visitor. our job as hubbers is to promote good hubs for them to advertise on.

    1. Will Apse profile image90
      Will Apseposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      Google traffic is worth so much more than any traffic that you can bring via social media.

      Creating backlinks is perilous these days.

      If you are writing on HP, it is all about choosing topics that are not saturated and making sure that the pages are high quality.

      1. TessSchlesinger profile image91
        TessSchlesingerposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        I agree While I get some traffic from social media, pintrest, flipboard, etc. about half my traffic is from google.

      2. NateB11 profile image93
        NateB11posted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        +1

    2. Marisa Wright profile image94
      Marisa Wrightposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      I disagree very strongly indeed.

    3. TessSchlesinger profile image91
      TessSchlesingerposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      How does one promote without people losing interest in reading your stuff?

      1. Marisa Wright profile image94
        Marisa Wrightposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

        This comes back to what we discussed before.  If you don't have a specialist subject, promoting to a fixed network becomes ineffective over time.

        If you have a specialist subject, people join your networks (Facebook, Google Plus, Pinterest etc) because they're interested in that subject. They will devour everything you post, because they love the subject.  They will bring in other enthusiasts so your network will grow. You can curate good posts by other people on the same topic, creating a sense of community.

        If you don't have a specialist subject, then chances are your network is composed of friends, family and other writers.  Friends and family read your posts to be kind, but that soon wears off, understandably. Other writers read your stuff to be supportive, but that also tails off - especially if you're more prolific than them, and therefore they're not getting "tit for tat".  So reader fatigue is a big problem.

        You see this even on paid networks like CritiqueCircle.com, where I'm currently posting chapters of my novel.  Most writers find there are plenty of people willing to crit the early chapters, but as the chapters roll on, fewer and fewer people will read them - even though they get paid to critique!  That's because only those genuinely interested in the story will stick with it.

        1. TessSchlesinger profile image91
          TessSchlesingerposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

          That's really interesting, Marisa.

          None of my social networking sites have family and friends. And I purposely blocked all writers from any of my sites. All my social networking sites are based on interests - international politics and international economics, minimalism, environmentalism, creativity, and travel. Mostly, I got to know people on my sites through the years, and have subsequently met some of them through HIRLs (Hang out in Real Life)

          Here's some information about  my traffic on hubpages

          1 About half or slightly more than half comes from google
          2. A lot comes from pinterest, but I didn't put the links there, others did.
          3 A lot comes from facebook, but I didn't put the links there. Others did.
          4. I recently joined flipboard (I love it) and posted some links. I got some traffic.

          That said, when I do post, I am very careful to make sure that it's only one post every three of our days and that I've posted twenty or thirty other things before that. I get a few hits from G+, none from pinterest, and a handful from facebook.

          My traffic from those sites come because other people have taken stuff I've written and shared it on specific interest sites. That confirms what you have said.

          Unfortunately, none of my specific interests are particuarly money making, and I will always be a generalist - not that I lack the knowledge. I just would get bored doing one thing.

  20. Intuitive Clarity profile image88
    Intuitive Clarityposted 2 weeks ago

    SEO is something that I'm still trying to understand but yes it is a big traffic booster. I always try to have an on point title to say what the hub is about..but not sure most of the time if it is search friendly.

    1. Will Apse profile image90
      Will Apseposted 2 weeks ago in reply to this

      Quite a few threads address that issue, like this one: http://hubpages.com/community/forum/139 … le-suggest

  21. cebutouristspot profile image72
    cebutouristspotposted 2 weeks ago

    SEO and Niche finding is one of the key to get any payout in Hubpages.  Article quality and engagement is another part.

    You also need patience.

    Enjoy the platform and learn but you need to have a day job. Its hard to rely on hubpages to survive.

  22. nicenet profile image71
    nicenetposted 2 weeks ago

    Hello, just keep at it and don't quit.

  23. Sulabha profile image80
    Sulabhaposted 2 weeks ago

    Dear Shaila,
    I find you are writing interesting recipes. So you do stand a chance of earning money. Maybe writing continental recipes once a while could do the magic. Because that could win you foreign readers.
    See in India, people do not click on ads that easily. I don't want to discourage you. But I have not made any money so far. And yet I am sticking on because I find HubPages a good platform. This is also true that I have written just about 6 Hubs. Basically, it's my hope that keeps me going. Besides, I have met quite a few well-wishers and good advisors.
    All the best to you!

  24. SolveMyMaze profile image67
    SolveMyMazeposted 2 weeks ago

    I'd certainly agree with others regarding the initial hurdle in receiving any payments on HubPages. It took me around 6 months from starting my journey before I had a payout. As of late my time spent on HubPages has dwindled, although this is something I'm going to be rectifying in the near future.

    When you're starting out though, the most important thing is to enjoy writing insightful hubs without the goal being to earn $XXX. If you simply jump in with the goal of making a large sum of money right away then you're going to be disappointed in the long term.

  25. soulfoodies profile image60
    soulfoodiesposted 2 weeks ago

    Always give best content in your articles and maintain stable frequency in article posting, you will see results soon.

 
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