I hope not! And....also, I haven't seen you post anything bannable either. However, I have seen people banned for posting about having gotten banned, so I now exit, no matter how interesting this thread has become.
I did get one for 3 days, which was ok, but what I did "not" get was "any" explanation as to the infraction or why?
the message has a girl dressed like a mall cop! on a segway looking up at the screen with her head tilted up looking at you and she was waving her finger to say no, no no! Cute enough I guess, but would have much rather received an explanation as to why?
and or any consideration as to what was supposedly done?
no email notification, nada..?
If I get another one for writing the truth here, then i guess it's time to go.
Not being familiar with the "old" banning notice, I have nothing to compare this with, Ron. Would you say it is an improvement? It sounds courteous, if nothing else. What should a banning notice say? "You've been a bad, bad boy. Go sit in a corner with duct tape over your keyboard for 6 months till you learn to be civil"?
(I would suggest a banning notice language contest but truly don't want to test anyone's patience and do NOT want to get myself banned!)
MM it would be more fun tailoring the message to suit the misdemeanour. I know HP won't and really - they shouldn't but I know I'd amuse myself dreaming up notices according to who got banned and what for. You know, like one for me:
Frog - sorry you are not allowed to post. Hoppit. *snickers*
Or maybe a one size fits several:
Sorry, you are not allowed to post. Actually we're not sorry. You've had it coming for ages. It was our pleasure, believe us.
For those that get into fights related to religion and that forever copy and paste scripture:
Sorry, you are not allowed to post. Plagiarism is prohibited. We only accept original content. The Bible is over 2000 years old. Hardly original
And for the hubbers that full on troll:
Sorry, you are not allowed to post. Whilst we endeavor to remain impartial, trolls are without our realm. In fact - they're not in any realm. They're don't exist. And like them - your ability to post no longer exists
Sorry. You are not allowed to post. You haven't actually done anything wrong. We have. By banning you. For nothing.
HP admin do have a sense of humor Brenda. They're only people. They ban when someone meets the parameters. It's a business, there are rules. I doubt that they want to ban anyone. I'm sure they'd rather we all just got along, wrote great content, and continued to build the site's reputation.
I like the ones above. I have to say, if I were in the position of writing ban notices I'd have to go with something down-to-Earth and rude. Maybe: "Look. We're sick of hearing about you, whether or not what you did was only borderline, and whether or not whoever found your post offensive is thin-skinned, or a two-faced slime-ball or not. You're out - and the person who reported you may well be skating on some pretty thin ice, as well. See ya around. "
I thought they had that in the old banning notice, I was like...really...huddunit? But i didn't die. It's good for you, you break the addictive habit for a while and then you don't go looking for a shot of forum zingers.
LOVE these! While greeting has its creative moments, being an official HP banner also has appeal. You'd be very good at it, frogdropping!
I like your ideas, too, china man!
How about if we suggest to HP that there be a "wall of shame" on HP (kind of like a penalty box in hockey). Hubbers who are banned get listed in the Banned Box, along with the amount of time they are banned. This way we will know when to expect their return and can (to some degree) prepare for it!
Caroline, it's not as much what you right about in your hubs, though certainly this is considered. It's more about the inflammatory remarks people make in the (mostly) political and religious forums. Not for the faint of heart.
Ooooh. Lisa, you are good at this! How about "Banning you is not a personal insult. It is the result of a personal insult. Actually, we've been counting. It's the result of 14 personal insults. These are insults made by you to other people. We probably should have shut you off after 3, but wanted to see just how low you would go. Now we know."
You don't really want to post here, do you? Can't you see how the trolls are far better at reasoning than you? The Sock Puppets are boxing up your arguments and sending them posthaste to East Bumf*ck as we speak. You're embarrassing yourself. Get it?
lol Lisa ban messages could become a daily or weekly comp in the office. A bit like Facebook status blurbs.
Sorry. You are not allowed to post. The thing is we really do like you. I mean, someone's got to right? If you look anything like your avatar, I'd imagine even your own mother would struggle with that one. Anyway, we digress.
Sorry. You are not allowed to host. We know that doesn't make sense. But the letter that rhymes with zee is missing from our keyboard.
Voting people of HP Island sounds great in theory. But think about it. The very people we would want to ban (who we know deserve it) are the very people who make the forums the entertainment they are. So we'd be spiting ourselves, wouldn't we?
So far I haven't been banned (yet anyway), but I've always just kind of assumed it may only be a matter of time.
Back to "suggestions", though: How about this one. Post number of forum bans in a badge, along with accolades? Maybe it could be a black badge with a clown with a dunce cap or else trophy (depending on how you want to view being banned). OR - how about a whole separate "Exiled Posters" forum section, with only one thread, "Belly-aching about being banned from the regular forums".
I've never had an "e". I think the trick is to stay away from those religion and politics forums. I can't imagine anyone going to either for more than five minutes without (shall we say) "speaking his mind".
Until one gets banned for something so mild they can't believe it, they feel fairly safe to voice their mind. Especially of other, more harsher, posts (in which you know you might be banned) are allowed.
I don't think anyone is surprised at being banned for saying terrible things, but some incidents are just plain puzzling! Some of you will find out what I mean, while others may not! This is the bad part, not knowing why!
It just means that some people have contacted each other outside of the hubiverse and all agreed to 'report' you - at roughly the same time - to make it appear as if the report has substance. Do not be upset by this you are in good company, all the thinkers have been or are banned and their 'fight' is against the group of people doing this - so they are easy to spot. The actual trick is to concentrate and when being deliberately provoked to get you to step over that imaginary line - be more careful how you respond. An idea can be stupid or childish but if that even looks as though it points at the person itself it becomes a personal attack.
There is also the issue of who it is. You can call me anything you like Randy, I would never report you - but it doesn't mean that others won't I suppose
Strange though, the time I got banned, along with three others, I had to contact the other two to assure them I did not report them. They had reported no one either and the posts didn't indicate what the reason was.
Nothing very insulting other than mild criticisms. This is why I would like to know the moderator making the call so I could avoid posting during their shift!
Like you, CM, I don't take too many things personally from online conversations!
habee, I know you were addressing Randy, but I popped back on here and saw your post. Sorry to see that. Don't get too discouraged. I wish you knew all the serious setbacks an over-60 relative of mine had last year (but I won't go into here, of course), with everything turning out fine.
I just got off my ban yesterday, but I don't remember what the banned window looked like as I was in a state of confusion, then I laughed at how ridiculous it all is. I feel like a first grader all over again sitting on a stool with the dunce hat on. I got off easy as a few are banned for a month and some permanently. Some moderators have no humor in them at all, or common sense. Now I expect another ban for this. UP YOURS!
That bad huh ralwus? Sometimes I think it's less a lack of common sense and more a straight forward observation of the rules they've set down. I'd forgotten when this thread started but I have been banned, not so long since.
It was another account and I'd been experiencing some major issues with spam. As it was that account that I had the issue with, I used it to post. Not sockpuppet style, just for the sake of the HP admin team connecting with that account.
Anyway ... I got banned. I don't remember a picture either, just a simple message. Of course I contaced the team and we spoke about it. I sorted the problem out and everthing was fine. I don't think I had a time limit - just couldn't do anything.
Perhaps if you get banned again in the future (and I hope you don't!!!) they'll let me create your message:
Sorry. You are not allowed to post. What did mommy tell you way back when? Can't remember? We'll remind you - When you have your own house then you can make the rules
And please take this in good humor ralwus ... we're friends and I'm funnin'! I'd hate to see you on the out once again *nods*
Wow, I had no idea they were that strict, Frogdropping. I've posted to the forums under 3 or 4 different accounts in the past. Usually it was to ask a question about that specific account, but once in a while I just forget to sign in to my main account. I've never been banned. Guess I'll have to be more careful in the future.
Nooooo rmr ... I'm sorry, my post was misleading! They didn't ban me for second-account posting. I had a virus that was auto-spamming everywhere I went. At the time I was unsure what it was, thought it a HP glitch. So they put my other account to ban as a means of counteracting the spam.
And there is an indication that sockpuppetry is bannable - you know, talking to yourself in the forums, using alternative accounts to inflame, harrass and upset other users.
Multiple Accounts: While we don't prohibit having more than one HubPages account, we ask that you stick to a single persona in the forums. The deceptive use of multiple accounts, especially in a single thread is prohibited. The use of secondary accounts to circumvent a forum ban is also prohibited.
Aaah, that makes more sense. I mostly stay out of the forums, so I wasn't aware of how big sockpuppetry had become. I've been looking around here recently and I can't believe how different it is now as opposed to when I joined almost 3 years ago. I think I heard one forum ban in my entire first year here.
"You have been banned from forum participation for an undetermined amount of time. We are aware you have not broken any rules or offended anyone. We are just sick of seeing you here. Go do something else! Get things done. Finish the projects you've promised to others. Get a life! Then come back and we'll talk about it."
I'm not the moderators so I don't know the reason, or who flagged you up. If anyone with a common level of rationale was completely honest, your perceived attack was thrown right back at you by the OP. See I don't know how it works. If it's crossing a HP standard that does it alone, if a complaint or several, all together - I really don't know.
I saw the thread and didn't bother with it. I was unsure of the motive for posting, though I feel for anyone struggling with anything. I could see the potential for some venom slinging from the off, more so as it progressed and everyone that didn't assuage the OP's state of mind was either dismissed or rounded on by him/her.
I'd just leave such threads alone in future. We can't help all people and oft times, folks don't like the truth of something they've done or caused. They just want help justifying their role in it. That's what makes us human ... loss.
I get really suspicious of people who post such personal things when they just joined the site. After all, this is not Dear Abby. I always wonder what their motivating is and if they are even telling the truth. It's different when someone has been around a lot and someone we know. So, yes, I ignore them too.
Oh yes I have been banned a few times for my naughty questions, I just cant help myself though. The truth is, I really am trying to run some fun surveys on a particular subject and I have been banned for it twice oh well...lol
Quite rightly so - he was appearing in the forums under two names.
He got grassed-up for winning too many religious arguments:D
Note the grass was a christian - note that all the other 'defenders' of reason and sanity are also on a ban as we speak. Note the only people telling lies and having to resort to such silencing tactics are our free speech defending, moralising 'friends'. Lies become them like painted smiley face masks.
But alternate WAS breaking the TOS and had to be put to rest forever. BUT he will rise again on the third attempt when chinaman rides into the sunset
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