Hub Views Dropping Like A Rock!
GDG is again testing my traffic. From better to low.Hope there will be a change soon.
Well...that's just wrong! (she said with indignation...)
I have backlinks on twitter, redgage, some Squidoo and some infobarrel.. I have gotten rid of every stinkin RSS capsule I could find, or at least the descriptors. I am thinking I will remove backlinks from Twaiter.. maybe it is the culprit
Your traffic will come back, wait and see
I don't think it has anything to do with RSS feeds. In fact, if you find a hub on Google search that has an rss feed on it, underneath there is now a box you can open to display that feed It says: See More from Hubpages.com. I don't know if this is new or not, but it is extra publicity to your feed that Google provide.
I went over my hubs and cut down the number in a lot of my rss feeds and set them to display first sentence only.
It didn't make any difference.
My traffic is back. The hubs doing the best are ones that I found on opening still have their full RSS feed in them. (Oops missed them!)
Even poor old Sexy Cats that Paul slated is doing well again.
I'm scared to post this in case my traffic collapses again, as it probably will at some point. This is the second time my traffic has risen since the subdomain switch, but in between I was a plunger.Yeah I knew that! Were you sweating there?
You weren't far wrong all the same
That must be a huge relief, to have your traffic back.
My main account (this one) is doing great, traffic-wise. The other one? Well let's just say it's not quite dead, but almost. The only reason I can think of why account #2 should be doing pants and not this one is the fact that #2 consists entirely of sales hubs, and overall it does mention brand names a lot more often than this one.
It's not worth me stressing over, given the fact that I make beer money off HubPages rather than an actual income.
I received the same notification, Mutiny. But it also stated this didn't mean I wasn't penalized by one of their automated bot programs. "No reconsideration is therefore needed" with a "however" stuck in there as if to to insure further confusion for those of us who dare to inquire as to their methods and intentions.
Am I wrong to feel almost dirty after querying these-I hesitate to say people-company representatives? It's almost as if I am apologizing for something I'm not aware of being guilty of in the first place!That settles it! Where can I hire my own SpiderBots to whip G's SpiderBot's asses? There doesn't seem to be any laws protecting us from these clearly mercenary creations, so, let the Invasion of the SpiderBots be avenged!
You like this graph of my traffic lol its almost too funny, sick manipulation of Google updates.
No because when I plunged, the vast majority of my hubs had custom summaries.
Adding them helps their visibility, but if you have been slapped, you have next to no visibility anyway.
Write them now, because your traffic will return, and when it does, you'll be ready
Habee
I am so glad there is another person who does that! I thought I was weird getting up in the late morning and checking my stats like someone with OCD LOL!
My traffic did see a huge burst late last month, then dropped off like 25%, but seems to be leveling off.
Obviously, traffic on the internet does not remain the same everyday, but there should be some average.
Okay, I guess I will stick my nose in here.
My traffic is presently up from it's lowest, which was 200-400 views a day. I'm presently at 800-1100 views a day. My average recently was upward climb, which held steady between 500-700 views a day and that started about a month ago.
Since I made the switch to the sub-domain, I've had one dip in traffic, but it returned the next day. My adsense earnings are returning to my pre-panda average, but that's only so far this month. I was only averaging about $3-$4 per day before panda, but afterward, I was down to about pennies a day and even some days with nothing at all.
I've broken the $2 mark so far 3 out of the 4 days of this month.Wow, Cagsil! This is almost my stats.. my traffic before subdomain change was exactly that 200-400 views a day. After changing to subdomain, my traffic almost doubled and continued to rise to 800-1000 views a day.. and leveled off for almost two weeks now. Because of the traffic increase, my Hubads earnings are higher than ever, this month (so far) is even higher than Adsense. I'm a happy puppy.
Congrats on your Adsense earnings.. that's super!
How about this kind of theory: (I don't even think we're supposed to be trying to figure this stuff out, so maybe I'll be hit by lightning or something??
) (but it's intriguing)
I don't know how the bots works at all, so overlook my over-simplified (and inaccurate) descriptions of the processes that I imagine. But how about this kind of thing:
First, maybe there's something that, if a person makes a lot of changes, signals the bots that something has been changed; and maybe the thing kind of goes into a "holding pattern" until the bots come around again (or otherwise "figure out" if all the changes were OK on each Hub, or even on the subdomain on the whole).
And, how about if either independent of that type of thing or else in conjunction with it, there are factors associated the Hubs, themselves, or else the author/subdomain; and the number of those factors contributes to further "analysis" by the bots (which may be "assigning" or "penalizing" with some version of a point system, depending on each and every one of those "points" on which the Hub/subdomain is being assessed).
The number of Hubs on a subdomain would of course increase the number of potential things that needed to be "assessed", and the more "fancy things" someone did to however many of his own Hubs, the more "assessment" by bots, on each of many "points", would be involved.
I think of my account as a simple one. It doesn't have all that many Hubs, and my approach has always been very basic. So, I'd think, comparing a less complex set of factors to a more complex one (maybe on someone with a similar number of Hubs but lots of different and smaller little SEO-type things added in), if there were something that put on something like a "holding pattern", it could 1) set off more "alarms" per Hub and/or subdomain and maybe result in a longer time in a "holding pattern" (or whatever it might be called, and I'm guessing the bots don't "hold" in one place for too long anyway, but you know what I mean as far whether traffic does anything goes). Another kind of complexity factor could be the person who doesn't tend to write a wide variety of types of Hubs, but instead writes x percent of this kind and x percent of another kind. Maybe that slows down any "assessment" by bots too.
What I wonder about is whether the "complexity" of factors in the subdomain and/or each Hub or all Hubs combined might put result in that longer "assessing and slowing things up" factor; and whether there's an exponential factor involved in terms of the degree of surges and drops and/or the speed at which they take place.
I tend to have longer Hubs (and simple ones). Maybe, if my subdomain is a "simple one", but the Hubs are longer, that triggers enough of a slowing up in order that the bots do at least whatever they do in terms of grammar and looking for iffy stuff, but maybe one reason my own surges and dips have been less dramatic (with the dips, so far, not lasting as long as some) is that the only real thing that catches the "assessing eye" of the bots is the length of the Hubs?? There's a lot of stuff those bots don't have to "assess" when it comes to my Hubs (still, there's a little here or there other than just grammar).
Why x percent of the "top Hubbers"? Maybe because they're the ones who put more (of one thing or another) into their Hubs in their aims for quality and content/information. Maybe the present "visibility" of them means they attract more frequent "assessment" by the bots process? One point is that I've done nothing but add a few Hubs since Panda, so I haven't been "throwing any curve balls" by making a lot of changes to my Hubs. I wonder if that would mean my own group of Hubs tend to get "assessed" more quickly, or at least without involving too many factors beyond the Hubs themselves and this site??
This might be a completely ignorant and wacko bunch of guesses I'm making; but if this kind of thing is at all a factor for those who have had, to one degree or another, the dip/surge pattern; it would mean that only SOME (if any at all) of the many different "traits" of a Hub were "bad" in the first place, and that, maybe, it would have just taken more time for the bots to give the Hub(s) the OK. I'd think a lot of changing of a lot of things might further slow up the bot process (and maybe even trigger some kind of "more in-depth assessment").
Basically, I'm kind of wondering if (within the overall context of whatever the bots are "assessing"), a problem for at least some people may be the efforts to improve the Hubs (according to what people now think may "improve" them in Google's eyes), whether or not the actual "improvements" were even necessary.
What would account for my own, less dramatic, surges and dips? I'm always making some small change to something here or there. 300 Hubs times a few changes to some can add up. If people in the "top" few hundred (or whatever) Hubs are being more scrutinized by bots or if the HP domain, itself, is under ongoing "assessment" by them, then that would account for the less dramatic, but clearly consistent, pattern of my own traffic.
Forgive my rambling ponderings/guesses, but even it's all the just that, maybe the ideas will trigger some more "scientifically correct" spin-off, but related, ideas for someone. All along, my instinct has told me that people should hold off some on making changes unless they know, without a doubt, that there's something spammy, or borderline spammy, about their Hubs. I know everyone and his Hubs are different, but I still kind of think people shouldn't rush to doing anything big to their Hubs.
(For the last few hours, at least, my own traffic seems to be hovering around the same place longer than it does when it's in it an "up" or a "down" mode. In the last x number of weeks, I don't think I've seen this kind of "stillness" in the 24-hour numbers. I'm not feeling awfully good about it.
)
thank you
OK, more craziness. Mine zoomed back up for a day and a half and are falling again. I'm gonna stop looking.
How? How could you stop looking? I certainly don't have that much will power!
The best I could do was stop "wheel-spinning" and "trying to predict" (in my own head and, to a large degree, on here with others who have also been collectively wheel-spinning). Looking? I'm looking as much as ever.
Basically, I closed the book on the subdomain drama and called it "Whatever It Is On Any Given Day". That's not saying I don't re-open the book and take a look every so often, but I do close it again after taking that look. Before, that book had been left open on my "table" for weeks and weeks (months?). I've had to clear that table and mostly move on. I'll deal with what happens when it happens when it happens, but I guess the main difference is I'll treat it separately from the "new" subdomain thing and instead "address it from within".
Ouch, this is terrible right now. My hub views rose, declined, rose again, and now they are falling. Man, I hope this does not last.
Have you any idea how many mental patients that would produce? There are over 200,000 published users on HubPages! Add in spouses, children, boyfriends and girlfriends, brothers and sisters, neighbors and friends and it is quite a number!
Judging from some of the threads, probably quite a few.
But actually with over 200,000 hubbers, there is such a small percentage posting in these threads. Maybe pull away from the computer for a while and go eat ice cream.Icecream ALWAYS worked for me
How about you, Izzy? You can't seem to make up your mind either (typical woman!
) but the last I saw you were headed up. Still going or have you turned around again?
Interesting idea - could be! But, one of the reasons it puzzles me is that I have not seen this in the past. Perhaps (back then) my numbers were just so low that it wasn't as easy to notice.
That's what I was told in the e-mail they sent me. This is beyond a "fluctuation!"
More like my hub being overrun by a steam roller. I see my authorscore keeps dropping by the day, but I'm with you, Psycheskinner, just don't see the point if no one's going to read it and there's no money in it. If I was gonna do that, I'd just keep a diary!It is pretty crazy. It really is all or nothing right now. Take a look at my traffic swings from the past month.
My views were steadily improving. I had a slight drop after switching domains, but then it started to go up again. Now they've dropped way down again. I'm hoping it's temporary....
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