Anyone noticed their hub views taking a noticeably huge drop today? I see blue arrows everywhere!
No, I have remained static. Let's hope it is just a blip, perhaps following the bad weather in the states.
I have just read your tea parties hub and voted it beautiful cos it is.
Yes, I am facing the same problem. But I feel it's like Hubscore only..totally unpredictable..
I have noticed a dip since going to sub domains overall. However my "tech" related hubs draw page views everyday, except less than before
yes...also my score. The more hubs I publish, the lower my score goes.
Yes I noticed a dip...a lot of blues..am looking at the answers here for a clue...except my new hub..showed reds for obvious reasons but only a short while.
My hub has slowly been going up since I made it but then again, my title isn't a brand name.
I did notice somewhat of a decline in my hubviews over the past few days. However I do not see a ton of blue arrows right now. Out of my sixty published hubs, so far I have three down arrows. Hopefully we see that change for the better soon!
My traffic is all over the map. Sometimes it is really good, near record highs, and other times it is in the basement. Thye HP team is constantly working to improve the site and offset the effects of Panda. Their focus on improving traffic bodes well for all of us. As Google continues to make changes and the HP team work improving the HP experience, traffic will have some weird patterns. Welcome to the internet.
I often see a drop in my viewings on the weekends and holidays. I think people are too busy to sit home in front of the computer. They're getting and visiting family, etc.
Seems to me up one day and plenitful then down one day and plentiful. Usually the up win out though. Here is a site to post free links It is super!!
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I don't think drops are ever site-wide unless Google has done something, you can always tell this if your hubs remain in their rankings. One of my top 3 hubs has dropped but I haven't done much backlinking recently...which always helps
My best hub is still 2nd on Google 1st page
Very weird - I noticed Stacy L. posted the same thing... my views are holding steady or slightly rising. We'll see what happens over the next 24 hours, though. I hope this isn't a portent of things to come!
Large drops in traffic tend to follow large upward spikes in traffic. If you've had a sudden surge in views recently, it's not out of the ordinary for the views to taper off or drop after a short while.
Mine had quadrupled over the last few weeks and now have sunk to their formerly dismal selves!
So, are a majority of your Hubs about wedding planning? If so, wouldn't you say that the surge and drop is due to regular flux in wedding traffic? I've got a few pages on various sites that deal with things related to weddings, and they go up during planning times of the year and down during the actual heavier wedding seasons themselves.
My traffic has dropped today, too. Oh well, it was great fun for a few days!
My Hubs where seeing a steady increase that started roughly 4 days ago. Now yesterday and today they are low even for me.
I'm holding steady, which is much higher than usual since the upturn started about a week ago. Remember that a lot of people along the East Coast of the U.S. are still without power and Internet. So don't pay much attention to it for now.
But weren't they without power yesterday? That was my best day ever.
Some people could have still been using a UPS. I had backup power for a while myself. Other sections are only experiencing problems today as mudslides are occurring as rivers are overflowing. This is a delayed reaction due to the storm. So you could expect people who rode it out fine are now in trouble. Vermont seems to have been a total washout. Worse than Long Island.
The last I heard, a lot of people could be without power for as long as a week. That was after we lost power twice but now have it back. I haven't had the chance to see any updates on whether that one-week thing may have changed, or how many still have no power.
So it would be useful to find ways to gain non-US traffic, so that we do not have to be held to ransom by events occurring in a single country.
Having the facility to use Amazon capsules for the other Amazon companies would be a start to breaking this US stranglehold on everyone.
Actually, most of my traffic comes at night, so I hope I was premature in my statement. I'll know in a few hours.
Today, mine is the highest it has ever been in 2 years at hubpages.
LOL, I got it even if no-one else did! Know the feeling
Mine are the same as always, the newer ones are rising and the older ones are rising slowly.
Nope, not an organic traffic dip. Rankings for keywords lowered yesterday evening.
It's truly bizarre, these plunges and surges, hitting some accounts at the same time, others at other times....recovering here and there...Google's up to some crazy stuff; I hope it's still data gathering, but maybe it's just willy-nilly penalties....or maybe our surges were some other websites' penalties...
If there's any consistency to it, I sure hope we figure it out. It's like a tragicomedy, all this melodrama, laughing and crying with the actors, knowing you're coming onstage, then realizing you've been in the play all along...
Well my blogs have really been doing well since Panda, my Hubs not so much.
Then Thursday, my blogs started dropping like rocks and my Hub page views shot up 1000 -2000.
Remember that Seinfeld episode where Jerry was "Mr. 50/50"?
I'd had that substantial increase that a lot of other people did (what was it now, last week?). I think it was Friday night that the steady and consistent-seeming increase stopped; and I began seeing "non-dramatic" but continued dropping for the weekend. (Someone else on here mentioned it could be the weekend issue.) Although the drop (as the rise had been) was actually consistently gradual, by the end of seeing things drop the drop was kind of substantial (500 views or so before the gradual drop turned around, I think). Some time yesterday I began to see a slow, upwards, climb that has continued through to right now. For now, they're at the highest I've seen post-Panda and post-subdomains; as well as higher than more recent (maybe even not so recent) pre-Panda, 24-hour, averages.
Considering that my 24-hour averages have their own range, as opposed to factoring in "odd low's and high's" that aren't "the average" for me; and depending on whether I'm factoring in my "low averages" or "high averages", my 24-hour views today are from 3 times to 4 times more than previous averages. As it is of right now, it looks like if it were continue to go up today/tonight, it would be at 3 times my post-subdomain "average" and even "all time high". That's, of course, as of right now. Who knows what will happen an hour and a half from now - or next week...
(In other words, my traffic's better than ever, at least for now.)
What I don't understand is, why is it that if I look at my stats they say, for example, 1000, then an hour later, its says, 800? How can people undo readings?!!
Nell, they're rolling stats. The 24-hour period measured changes as we move forward in time.
Probably reading a hub backwards can undo a reading!
Hub views are for a given time period. The one day column is for the last 24 hours back in time. Some of that traffic had to come in somewhere during the day and it drops back out 24 hours later - but is still counted in the other columns. Only the all time total views column should stay constantly growing.
That's my explanation to myself for the situation you describe. But I am no expert so perhaps someone else knows better.
My traffic is falling. I have blue arrows, but also have red arrows. A few hubs that had huge spikes are falling down. My peak highest was 12,000 views, now I am in the 8000s. (The rolling 24 hr stats.)
Hopefully, this is not some Google Update again or something. Of course, this is the weekdays, my traffic was A LOT different on the weekend.
One of my oldest hubs is still performing really well though, most of the hubs that are losing traffic are new.
I have a sea of blue arrows this morning, on almost every single Hub. It's not a tragedy - my traffic has basically gone back to what it was before 20th August. But between then and now, I had this huge surge with a doubling in traffic, and now it's gone. Peculiar.
My traffic is still rising, but on different articles. I have a couple with blue arrows, but a few that hadn't taken off now have two red arrows on them.
I hope they don't drop - I finally got back to pre-panda levels of about 800 views a day.
Uncertainty is bad for business. Should I write another hub? Should I spruce up my own sites. Should I sit in the garden and watch the ants fight?
I'm waiting with baited breath for my hubs to fall into oblivion (currently my traffic is quintuple post-panda levels).
Off to find some whiskey...
You found the whisky. I got two bottles of ancient whisky for my birthday.
15 year old dimple of good 12 year old Kentucky?
I'll join ya!
Maybe we all should start consulting our astrological charts or palm readers, or something. It doesn't really look like the kind of answers we'd like will be coming from any consistency with traffic on here.
Something is terribly wrong, I haven't had this few views since I first started writing here. Something caused the bottom to fall out!
My views have also been dropped but not so heavily. Just 10-15% and it is not a big fluctuation.
I've come down from the all-time high, but am still holding higher than pre-panda.
Looking at traffic sources, international traffic (.ca, .au and .in) is down. .com is holding steady as is .co.uk. But of course the Americans have yet to wake up, so who knows what will happen to .com
What is happening? First there was a spike now a dramatic drop off - it is me or is it the search engines?
I've had the opposite, after the HP Ad program kicked off, my views slowly dropped until this month when every one of my decent hubs have seen a 100% increase in views! It's all very strange, need to spend some time looking at analytics.
Stacie, on the weekend I had a couple of days that had me thinking my views were going to keep dropping. Based on what I've seen on here, I was ready to see them drop to "nothing", but I was also thinking the increase may have just been leveling off, and that they'd settle somewhere reasonable (even if substantially lower). Anyway, they turned around again (for now, and they're at an all-time high). There's just way too much havoc going on with traffic for anyone to think whatever it his traffic is right now is going to stay approximately where it is for any length of time. Maybe there'll come a time when that changes, but this sure isn't that time.
I live in NJ, and many towns around us have been without electrical power for 5 days, maybe that's why people are offline around here. Once the power comes on, you have to throw out all your rotten food, the house is a wreck, and the weather went from 85 to 60, so we're all banging around in the dark looking for warm clothes. I've just ventured back online today.
Curiously I've had a minor rise in views over the weekend although my views are still around 25% when compared to other months. I've lso found that the viewings on one of my hubs has gone up over 200% over the last week too. (and I'm not talking it starting at single figures!)
I have a second account here- a small one that I have mentioned in other threads- and it was one of those that plunged about a week ago. I looked this morning and it was all red arrows. This evening it has the highest traffic it has ever seen.
The only reason I am saying this is because accounts that suddenly lose traffic are not necessarily doomed. Several people have talked about much bigger falls and recoveries than I have experienced.
On the contrary, my total hub views for today are the highest they've ever been in the four+ years I've been on HubPages. And I've been seeing many red arrows for a few days now, right about the time when I noticed the gray A's. ^_^
Hope your hub traffic goes back up soon.
it's like riding a tidal wave...
is google conducting some sort of test?I feel sea sick..
My traffic continues to rise (fingers crossed) and today is the highest traffic I've had from G.. I had a 24-hr surge of traffic from Bing a few months back.. that one must be a fluke as it lasted only a day. The rise in traffic from G however is lasting for over a week now. I'm not going to hold my breathe considering some traffic have gone down already.. but I'm enjoying the ride while it lasted.
Well, this is looking bad, just checked today and my traffic continues to fall.
I am not sure if it's going to level off or what. Are there a lot of people without power?
My earnings were not too bad though - made about 12 dollars yesterday. Last week I nearly hit 20, but looks like that is not going to happen again as of now.
You're scaring me, David. Please go away and be quiet!
It's a roller coaster for sure and no one can predict one day to the next. I'm still seeing high traffic, pretty well settled out. As of right now I expect today to fall slightly from yesterday (it usually does on Wednesday) but who knows. It might just as well shut down completely at noon!
I wish it would just settle down and google would quit messing with us.
I am still at high traffic, but way far from my peak. One day last week, I hit my all time high, but it has been dropping since.
Google likes to rough people up. Throws some slaps one day then gives our hubs godly powers next
But I think power outages could be the cause perhaps, plus this is a weekday, and my weekend was completely different.
I don't receive that thing I used to get from HP that gave me my weekly stats, how many people read my profile page, and how many read my hubs. What setting is that? Thanks.
I am still not back where I was before Google Panda but I am doing a lot better now than I was. Views are going up every day.
Hi David 470,
If you're still at high traffic, then unless most of your hubs are weighted heavily towards hurricanes, moving into dorms, or other current events, I don't think you're "plunging." I'm now at lower traffic than I was a year and a half ago. That's a plunge!
Plunging happens if you're not ranking highly for terms you ranked highly for before.
You can see what kind of traffic you were getting last week from keywords you were ranking for in your Analytics account. Then check your Analytics today and yesterday and compare. Then sign out of Google and do a Google search to see where you're ranking today. The rankings you see aren't exactly accurate, because of personalization of search, but they give you a ballpark figure. If you were on page one last week but are not today, you may be plunging. If your position's holding, then it's just a traffic fluctuation.
I did not know Google analytics told you rankings. I see that it tells you what hubs are performing best, where traffic is coming from (which is awesome), and other various statistics.
Actually, people moving into dorms might be affecting me. I have some gaming hubs. And I know some people may not be searching for certain keywords because of either no gaming consoles, or they are focusing on classes at the moment.
I just think the hurricane may be affecting me because if people have no power, then they have no access to a computer, except mobile.
Where exactly do I see rankings for my hubs Analytics?
You can't see your search engine rankings in GA, but you can see the traffic you're getting for keywords. Look at the keyword metric when you view your content for today, yesterday, day before, whenever.... If you notice a dip today or yesterday, then confirm it by doing a Google search for those keywords as I described.
Still down 85%. One of my articles eventually made to page 1 and consistently stayed on page 1 from the google search engine. You can come up with different combination of words in the search and it would still comes up high on page 1. Now its on Page 2 with new articles ahead if it.
WOW! Google analytics is really awesome. I just checked one of my new hubs that I published a few days ago. It says people are on the hub for a time of over 4 minutes!
I am really surprised a lot of my hubs, have a time page of up to almost 10 minutes on some of them!!
I have some hubs that do not get good traffic, but get 5 minutes on the page.
It says the average time on site is 46 seconds though...Which I thought was horrible, but I guess that is not the average for all the hubs?
I'm a little higher than that for average time on page, but not a lot. There are always those that click in, look for 3 seconds and realize that isn't what they wanted at all.
Another thing to watch for on this; I see that if I order the data by time on page and look at the bottom group of very short times they are all for slide shows and/or translations. Take them out and the number would rise a fair bit; I get a lot of slide show views and mostly they just flip through them rapidly. I also get some clicks from slide shows, though, so I guess it's all right.
What do you think is a good time on page for a hub?
I noticed some of my hubs that are lists of things get a higher amounts of time, but the other ones are lower because they may just be informative/news topics etc...
For any particular hub - lots of variables. What is it about? How long is it? Does the title match the material so the "right" readers are drawn in and there aren't many that leave before it's even fully loaded? Are there videos to keep the reader there?
Most of my "how to" hubs are running around 5-10 minutes on the average hub and I think that is reasonable. Most visitors to this kind of hub are looking for a particular piece of information and as soon as they get it they're gone, whether they read it all or not. It might take 10 or 15 minutes to really read it all, and few do, but that's fine as long as they get what they want (and leave via a click!).
On the other hand, I've got a few detailed and technical hubs that probably average 15 minutes. It takes much longer to digest them and even the "come and leaves" won't drag them down too much.
All in all I believe that just 2 or 3 minutes over a wide range of subjects and hub length isn't bad, but I'm no expert at all. My goal is earning money and that figure is resulting in (to me) a satisfactory CPM.
That's just great. Hub views down 87%. Most of my articles have completely disappeared from a Google search. Hubpages programmers gone wild?
I wonder if the fact all your hub titles contain brand names might have something to do with it? I vaguely remember that being mentioned as a potential factor(not sure if here or elsewhere).
Nope. Not at all. How many Toyota Camry's do you think exist in the US?
Actually part of the Panda update was to make brand name competition harder for anyone who isn't the actual brand-name web site. So this could be a big reason.
So what's my problem? I don't have any brand names in mine. I'm only getting about 20% of the views I was getting a few days ago.
I don't know, but perhaps it's a very saturated topic online and hard to rank for keywords.
I've read some of your hubs and found them helpful. I hope things start looking up for you.
It's Google, not Hubpages. It's a dance, don't worry overly. If you previously saw traffic, you will again.
I can't say I am sure this is true. The algorhythm may never go back to where it was.
What do you mean, where it was? When they change one thing, it upsets a lot of apple carts, so they change another thing, and other things are upset.
Absolutely exceptionally bright children are in charge of Google!
But they are still children, nonetheless.
We are going to bounce around until someone settles them down with a firm hand.
I believe its either Google or Hubpages programmers gone wild with a bad program that wasn't properly tested and/or approved for production which was subsequently executed causing all these problems. I've been in the IT business for many years and I know how programmers think. When they screw up, they panic and try to sneak in a fix before anyone notices - and a lot of times they may magnify the problem. If they did their due diligence to begin with proper UAT (User Acceptance & Training) or QA (Quality Assurance), screw ups would not get into the production environment.
If you are referring to my current oh-so-well-deserved traffic levels as a screw up for panic ridden programmers to fix, I'm going to send my friend Bubba to visit you!
Actually, you may be entirely correct, even though google has said there will be many small tweaks this year. I doubt it was HP - I don't think they can affect the entire web the way google did.
My traffic was at an all time low last week, but today it has never been higher These things tend to go in cycles, I have followed all the advice that has been offered by hp's and people like Ryan and I am hoping that the recovery is sustainable. My earnings have suffered like most but even they are now showing good signs of recovery. Not quite at pre-panda levels but close. The sub-domain switch has been a good move by hp's.
No argument. My traffic went up post sub-domain switch then two days ago - bam!...nose dived with blue arrows all over the place.
Keep on Dancin' Baby - with apologees to Abbbbbaaaa
I was at a party, this guy called Panda said to me
"Something bad is happening, Don't you all agree?
Google cares for nothing, no one like you and me
Evil times are coming, traffics crashin', just you wait and see"
I said, "Who are you to talk about Traffic set to doom?"
He got kinda scary as he looked around the room
He said, "I work for Google, I know the formula ain't great !"
I said, "I just can't believe it, why don't my hubs rate?
Panda, can you tell me what is right and what is wrong?"
He said, "Keep on rocking baby, 'til the night is gone"
On and on and on
Keep on rocking baby
'Til the night is gone
On and on and on
'Til the night is gone
On and on and on
Keep on rocking baby
'Til the night is gone
On and on and on
'Til the night is gone
Standing up is scary if your Hubs have started to fall
Like Humpty Dumpty, its like falling off the wall
Don't ask 'cause Google will never say what's going on
Its all a secret so just keep writing and moving all along
Gotta keep on rockin baby till the night is gone
My traffic is falling today from the new heights it reached the last several days.
It seems to me that people who write on a single topic are the ones having the most trouble.
I have written on several very different topics and I see each topic either soaring or dropping together. Overall though my articles are weathering the storm well because the topics are balancing each other out.
Does anyone else see this as the case?
Yea I write on different topics too....hmmm
Yes. I have been getting a good spread of hits across subjects.
My views have been staying up, and I write on different topics.
I definitely write on different subjects.. yet my views are still low
Well, honestly, my views are low, too, Ms Chievous. They're just a lot higher than they were. It's all relative, of course. I'm guessing, though, that you're saying your views are lower than they used to be, right?
I don't usually get a lot of hits to begin with, but I've actually had a few traffic rising arrows as of late.
4 weeks in, 5 hubs, sounds pretty normal for traffic to start to rise
Yeah, I think so too. I'm just really thankful to have any traffic at all! xD
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