Hub Views Dropping Like A Rock!

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   nikipaposted 13 years ago

   I can notice some traffic improvment in my account today... Maybe that's because I  managed to edit all the hub summaries the last days...

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      IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Adding hubs summaries is a great idea

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         nikipaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I really hoped it would help because the situation wasn't the pleasant one... Let see ...

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   DIY Backlinksposted 13 years ago

   I am staying steady on traffic so far.

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   Stacie Lposted 13 years ago

   well my traffic is the lowest it has ever been in the three years since starting here.
   what a rush I got last week with the fastest increase ever and now I'm crashing and burning..
   Does Google enjoy messing with us?

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      David 470posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Were you one of the hubbers whose traffic increased over 100% last week, now it is going down?
      
      My traffic went way up last week, now it keeps going down since last weekend, but it seems to be slowing a bit now (hopefully).
      
      I'm still going to publish daily because I don't know where my traffic will remain.

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      DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Me, too, Stacie.  So bummed. 

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   hardlymovingposted 13 years ago

   Looks like its a on-going Google Panda problem as previously reported by a fellow hubber:
   
   http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/07/13/ … %E2%80%9D/

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   dungeonraiderposted 13 years ago

   Nearly all blue yesterday with only one blue but two red today.  I can see a new life form developing out of this algorithm stuff.

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      hardlymovingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Its as though someone hit the reset button on all published articles treating every article as if they're newly published.

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         DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly, I had finally started seeing some Adsense dollars and now I'm back to the .01 again. 
         
         Disgusted.

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   Marisa Wrightposted 13 years ago

   Well, I'm coming to the conclusion that Google must have done another tweak on 29 or 30 August. 
   
   My traffic was doing well after the sub-domain switch, back up to three-quarters of my pre-Panda levels.
   
   Then between the 24th and 25th August I saw a sudden surge in traffic - almost double.
   
   On 30 August, my traffic suddenly dropped back down to almost exactly its previous level.
   
   Maybe Google tweaked something on the 24th, realized they made a mistake, and fixed it?   I can see the effect on a couple of my websites, too.

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      wampyriiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      My experience is virually the same except I'm now way below Panda levels today with around 7 times less traffic than 2 days ago. Blue arrows everywhere, not a single red one. It's totally demotivating, although I expect it will balance itself out and until then, I guess I'll work on my own sites which is probably a smarter thing to be doing anyway.

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      David 470posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      My experience is also similar. Had a huge traffic day on the 24th, then 6 days later, traffic started to fall.
      
      I am crossing my fingers that it does not continue to keep getting worse. I figured my 5 figure numbers were too good to be true to last forever. (sigh)

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   Dorsiposted 13 years ago

   I'm holding steady after my big traffic upsurge a few days ago.

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   Kangaroo_Jaseposted 13 years ago

   Its a bitch to pin down this one, I'm still trending a rise across the board, contrary to everyone else tanking.
   
   Just plain weird

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      learner.brownposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm seeing rises across the board as well. I have 1 blue arrow, 13 red arrows and 2 double red arrows so I am happy.

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   DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years ago

   Still falling...have I been blackballed by Google?

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      wordscribe43posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Who knows?  I had a similar experience, I was one of the 8/10 plungers.  Then on 8/29 my traffic SKYROCKETED and has stayed higher than it's ever been on HP.  I thought I'd been sandboxed, maybe I was... I'll  never know.  It seems there must have been another Google algo change made on or around 8/29.  Seems some of us who were the "plungers" previously are now the "risers" and vice-versa. 
      
      I hope this turns around for everyone...  I know how much it sucks to have your traffic disappear overnight.  I think it's going to be a roller coaster ride for a while.

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         Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I had the big traffic increase that a lot of others had when it first happened.  Then last weekend, I started to see a slow decline on the weekend.  I thought it was all on the way to the bottom.   Monday the traffic was higher than ever.  Now, this evening, I'm seeing a little bit of decline.  Of course, there's going to be ups and downs; so it's hard to know if seeing a little bit of a drop is a sign that major sinking is about to get under way.
         
         I haven't had much to do in the last month or so, so I've had the time to be watching the "minute-by-minute" traffic goings on (with my own account and the "rest of the world's"    ).  It's Labor Day weekend end here, and next week I start getting busy again.  I've decided I'm going to call things are right now "a cut-off point" and just stop paying attention.  Instead, with whatever solid pieces of time I have for here I'm just going to concentrate on spiffing existing Hubs or else writing new ones.  Whatever goes on, goes on (or doesn't).   If I end up getting "sandboxed" I'll do the next thing.
         
         I started paying closer attention to the traffic thing when I switched to the subdomain around the first week in July.  It's been two solid months of "paying close attention".  When traffic has been down it's depressing.  When it's up there's the worry it will go down.  When other people's traffic is down it's kind of "collectively depressing".  When other people's traffic is up it's nice, but it doesn't mean, even if mine is up, that mine won't go down.     It's "mentally unhealthy" (at least for me    ).
         
         I know everyone wouldn't want to do this, but I've just decided I'm calling an end to my own paying attention to the whole Panda/subdomain/traffic epic-dramas.  I agree that there's a good chance things will remain a roller coaster for awhile.  I've decided I need to disembark for awhile and deal with whatever happens from my more limited view from the ground.  It's easy, when you want to know what's going on side-wide and Google-wise, to get a little too preoccupied with some of the minute-by-minute stuff that happens with your own and "everyone" else's traffic.
         
         If I even look at the forums I'm going to be drawn straight to the traffic/subdomain threads.     So, I'm going into "modified isolation" for awhile.  (If I get "sandboxed" chances are I'll be "inspired" to write a Hub about it. 
         
         So, Happy Labor Day weekend (to the U.S. Hubbers).
         Good luck keeping traffic increases to those whose traffic is up.
         Good luck turning things around to those whose traffic has tanked.
         
         I'm going to give my traffic a margin of a few thousand views in 24 hours (plus or minus), and call anything with that range "normal". 

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            CASE1WORKERposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Lisa HW- I have done that too! It is  draining trying to watch, imagining that things are worse than they are- every update which reduces daily views is a "oh what is wrong moment"- when there is nothing actually.
            We know views often tank at weekends and holidays, especially now when many children are being prepared to go back to school. Other parts of life get in the way for most of the population. I have just set parameters with a low and a high, shan't be upset or overjoyed til they move well out of the parameters. -

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               David 470posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               LOL That is so true what you said the 3rd paragraph! Even if your traffic is up, you get paranoid it will go down just as much.  Same with out there is the collective depression of the site...

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    MyMastiffPuppiesposted 13 years ago

    Well my blue arrows have been gone for a week or two but they were replaced with a lot of BIG FAT zero's in the traffic column on daily visits! Would love to know what happened a few weeks ago,but it is hard to know how to fix our Hubs if we don't know the problem.
    
    I am not sure if it has been brought up but something that did change when we were switched to the sub-domain is we lost our DMOZ and Yahoo inclusion, and I also noticed many of my hubs were no longer indexed in Yahoo. Some of them have made their way back to Yahoo's index but not all.
    
    Immediately after the sub-domain switch my traffic had returned to pre-Panda but unfortunately that did not last.

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    workingmomwmposted 13 years ago

    I was having some really high (for me) traffic days. Now it seems to be dropping off. Oh well. At least I have more than 20-30 hits a day now!

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    toygurusposted 13 years ago

    It's just plain weird when I look at the search engine rankings, some hubpage accounts seem to be ranking really well. Others seem to have been banished. Hopefully things will settle but I have lost traffic since Aug 29 and it doesn't look like it is coming back. I will cross my fingers but go work elsewhere for now.

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    relacheposted 13 years ago

    It's Labor Day weekend in the USA... don't expect much traffic at all but wait and see what it does starting Tuesday AM.

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    FloraBreenRobisonposted 13 years ago

    It's Labour day weekend in Canada too.

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       Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Perhaps this is the reason my traffics not up high today.. how long does this last?

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          PaulGoodman67posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Labor Day lasts for a, urm *day*, Richie!  ;-)
          
          It's just the equivalent of the August bank holiday weekend in UK (or to be exact, the "May Day" holiday), people go away.  It's downward affect on traffic will be fairly small, just a bit larger than the normal weekend dip.
          
          North America is the only place in the world where they celebrate May Day/Internarional Workers Day in August, I think.  ;-)

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    ChristinSposted 13 years ago

    Mine were actually up a bit today from the past couple of days - Hubs are always so hard to predict! I don't panic when my views drop because I know if I wait for the wind to change directions they'll pick back up

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    cballi316posted 13 years ago

    I stopped by to see a bunch of goose eggs in the visits columns (after a run of great days) and checked in to see what is up.
    
    I don't think this is Labor Day, looks like a Google algo tweak. Hopefully I am wrong.

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       K9keystrokesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I think you are on to something here with the algo tweak, it would appear that something is happening to groups; way up last week, way down this week. I am sinching up the seatbelt and holding on for another ride!
       Very frustrating...

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          IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Last night, I noticed for the first time that hubs appearing in Google search with an RSS feed on the page have a + sign in blue at the bottom. It says +Show more results from Hubpages.com and when you click on the + sign, it opens up a list of all the hubs that are in a feed on that page.
          Is this new?
          I clicked on one of mine and it was the actual RSS feed - and not all topics were under the same heading, so it was my own RSS feed and not one of Hubpages.

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             wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Interesting.  I found one of mine that showed up that way, but several more that had RSS feeds but show the +Show more. 
             
             It also appeared just as I would expect for the feed on that page, not something from HubPages.

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             K9keystrokesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Wow Izzy,...I just don't know. It sounds like I need to do some more reviewing and research. At this junction; it's all a mystery to me! 

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    Barbara Kayposted 13 years ago

    I hope we don't go through the Panda thing again. It was so depressing last time. My traffic is still up, so I'm crossing my fingers.

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, mine is still up too.  I saw the huge increase last week - it dropped over the weekend, rose again and is again dropping.  Not as much as I expected for the weekend, though, so I'm still optimistic.

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    WriteAngledposted 13 years ago

    Well I've never managed to understand how to use RSS so have never used it on my hubs. If I search for me on Google, one of the hubs that comes up has the blue cross with "more results". When I open that, I see some of my other hubs, but also a couple of my comments on these forums.

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Have you done the rel=author thingie?  Could that be part of it?

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          WriteAngledposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I *think* I have, but having spent hours going back and forth changing it as I heard different things, I can't be sure. However, why does one specific hub show up? I've not put any rel codes in my hubs, only on my profile.

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             IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I spent ages last night trying to put in the rel=author thing. I carried out all the steps recommended and still the rich Snippets tool said it wasn't right. Then Jason said something else this morning, so I now have two links on my profile page, one with rel=me, and the other with re=author. I reckon if one of them is right, Google will disregard the other.
             
             But it was last night after I had added the rel=me link that I first saw those results in Google. The + sign does suggest it could be to do with Google + but I don't know.
             
             It hasn't helped traffic so far anyway.

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    Seeker7posted 13 years ago

    Yes.I've had loads of blue arrows over the past few days. Also my notifications for hubs that I'm following or questions that I'm following are not coming through via e-mail - bit odd!!!

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    toygurusposted 13 years ago

    There was another thread posted saying that google now thinks of subdomains as internal links. Perhaps this can explain the drop in traffic that many of us are experiencing. The thread is here: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/82042

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Actually, as we own the subdomain (for googles purposes anyway) and HP owns the main domain, links between subdomains are considered external. 
       
       At the same time, however, google has suddenly discovered hundreds of links all at the same time going to the subdomains.  It doesn't like that.

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          wampyriiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yes I have been wondering if that might be causing these big fluctuations.
          
          These changes would effectively amount to thousands of internal links being removed followed by thousands of external links being immediately added.
          
          That sounds like a recipe for sandboxing which is exactly how my account looks and feels right now. Like a sandboxed domain.
          
          My subdomain seems to have gotten a big crawl some time around the 22nd - 28th followed by a big jump up in traffic (I'm guessing when Google saw loads of new links all at once and bumped my rankings up) followed by a enormous crash down to near nothing over night at the end of the month (which again I'm guessing is when the the algorithm evaluated those links and and some filter decided it fit the profile of a link spammer or someone who bought a big heap of sidewide links and effectively sandboxed the subdomain).
          
          I can't think of anything else which would have caused such a radical change and I'm not sure what can be done about it other than sit and wait for it to work itself out. Add some more inbound links maybe to dilute the vast majority coming from the mothership? Meh, I'll tweak a little but I think it's just best to ignore it and hope it fixes itself eventually.

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             wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I wonder if that's not exactly what is happening.  At least one hubber in your situation requested a re-evaluation from google and traffic immediately began to rise again.  As if a human took a look, realized what happened, and rescinded the sandbox.
             
             Some of us, though, saw the huge traffic increase but not the subsequent fall.  Maybe the spiders simply haven't found all the new links yet. maybe the "mistake" has been eliminated, maybe actual people have to apply the sandbox and they have learned better.  No idea that any of these are correct, but it is a possible answer.
             
             My own traffic is falling, but not as much as I expected for this holiday weekend.  If it nosedives I will certainly make a request of google to take another look.

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             Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             My experience exactly.  My views were reasonably healthy after the sub-domain switch (almost back to pre-Panda), then around the 22nd they doubled - higher than I've ever seen.  Then around the 29th they halved abruptly.  Now they've halved again.
             
             My traffic is now back to the same level it was in September 2009.

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    KevinC9998posted 13 years ago

    Hub views are like the stock market. The important is to not panic!

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       David 470posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       lol true.

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    thejeffriestubeposted 13 years ago

    Ha, the reinclusion request. I put mine in about 3 weeks ago, and I'm up to 3 total views today!
    
    I'm beginning to not care, and get annoyed everytime I login and see even MORE substandard crap the HP is supposedly clearing out.
    
    I think we've all been had,

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Have you signed in as owner of your subdomain?  If not will google even pay attention to your request?
       
       That's bad news, that it has had no effect.

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    lovelypaperposted 13 years ago

    It seems my score drops when I don't write for awhile but usually when I write a new hub or post on some forums it goes up a little.

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    DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years ago

    Getting worse...views are dropping to almost 0 across the board.  Could someone from HP venture a guess as to what is happening with my hubs? Not funny anymore.

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Hi DIY, I just went to your profile page and there is a huge white-space gap... I wonder if that is affecting how google sees you?

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          DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Earnest, I took out the chunk of white space...not sure how it got there, but hopefully it will help.  Nothing could hurt right now!

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    sarasotaduiposted 13 years ago

    Very common problem here and everywhere... mine too..I can see the dropping..

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    Azure11posted 13 years ago

    Yep I had big rises 7-10 days ago and now they are falling like a stone - not sure if it is because of the weekend. Still way above my normal before the rises - maybe about half way between the 2 now.

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    Stacie Lposted 13 years ago

    a few days ago  I was wrong about my views being the lowest in three years,
    today they are even lower! is there something HP team  can do ? are they doing anything?

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    Isabella Snowposted 13 years ago

    It's normal for traffic to drop a little over the weekend, especially when it's a big holiday like Labor Day weekend. People are out doing things.
    
    My own traffic is actually pretty steady (diky jezis and knock wood) and dropped less than it used to before the panda update.

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       Stacie Lposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       these views are alarmingly low

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          wampyriiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, to clarify for people who think those of us who are worried are talking about a slight dip it's a lot worse than that. My traffic went from around 400 - 500 views on average to oh, say around 40 over the last few days and some of those are my own visits. Even through Panda I only went as low as around 200.

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             Multimanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             So totally agree, hubads income is the lowest its ever been, and views are at the point they were after I created my first hub 7 months ago, and it all went to hell in a two day period.  Worse yet on hubpages MY account page on page views  ever column now shows a figure exactly equal to Mondays total ever page views even though my daily view says I got a whole 20 views toady which by the way is a lot less than 10 percent of what I normally get in a day.

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    DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years ago

    This isn't traffic dropping just a little bit over the holiday weekend.  My views have experienced almost a 95% drop!

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    My views dipped a bit this week, not by a lot, perhaps 200 views..but this weekend is good, back up to 2000 a day

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That's about what I've seen, Richie.  A small drop (expected from historical trends) during the last few days of the week.  A little surprising is that this weekend (Friday) was still above last Friday and while today is still very early it looks like it may be a little better than last Saturday.
       
       I begin to have hopes that these traffic levels aren't just a fluke.  I just wish we could discover what has happened to the others that have fallen so badly.

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    Stacie Lposted 13 years ago

    Google is conducting another experiment of some kind...my views have never dropped this much!

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       Multimanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I am not sure it is Google.  While my drop is close to 95 percent of what it has been, all in a two day period this week, I still get google and others just less of each.

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          Multimanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          And because of the percipitice drop I think it caused my over all hubber score to plummet down as well never been below 84 usually ranging 84 to 94 is now 72.

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    hardlymovingposted 13 years ago

    Google's the problem.  I'm assuming its their SEO (Search Engine Optimizer)program. I wrote an article over a year ago that eventually worked its way up to the 1st item on page 1 from a Google search.  In a blink of an eye, its the last item on page 3 - and the number of visits to that article has plummeted as well.

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    K9keystrokesposted 13 years ago

    Yea, this latest downward spiral is getting a very depressing! Ouch!

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    Mikeydoesposted 13 years ago

    It is confusing and just out of control right now. Glad I got my own projects to work on.
    
    I deleted my hubs that were below a score of 70, and i hasn't helped at all.
    
    My views are pretty much just coming from backlinks.. Which is completely pointless because I'm sharing that with Hubpages. I can get those same backlinks  at my own site.

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       Multimanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes I am deleting all artilces 60 or below, but it is not helping and now my hubber score has dropped to 69 in 5 days from 86, and I think it has something to do with the lousy drop in views that has dropped 90 percent in the alst 5 days as well.   If this keeps up I see no reason to keep going on hubpages.

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          Multimanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I also stopped following anyhone I havent visted in over two months and anyone under 75 and it has not helped the score either.  It has to be the views, and that is something I have no real control over, google is not our friend.

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    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    I flatlined post-subdomain switch middle of August. Stayed there. I'm over the highs and lows. Haven't got the time to constantly 'Hubwatch' and fiddle around in desperate hope. I concentrate on stuff I have more control over.
    
    Sorry for everyone that's on a rollercoaster ride.

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    maruthirpposted 13 years ago

    I think this is a change made in hubpages backend to let only active users get more views.

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Don't be ridiculous - that would only cost HP their own income.

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    IzzyMposted 13 years ago

    The keywords have come back in the last couple of hours. Another roller-coaster ride coming up!

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       wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Sure hope it holds for you this time Izzy - you deserve it!

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          IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks Wilderness! I love watching stats when they are on the up! I'm not holding my breathe expecting it to stay up this time. It'll likely collapse again tomorrow or next week. But roller-coaster ride is an apt description.

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             wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I don't know, Izzy - mine have been way, way up since the 23rd and hold pretty steady.  Even saw a slight increase yesterday, of all days.
             
             I've been really hoping that you "plungers" have been suffering from some kind of google "mistake" that they will find and correct.

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                habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                My traffic was down a little yesterday, but earnings were great. I'm not expecting a lot of U.S. traffic today or tomorrow due to the holiday weekend.

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       Marisa Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Sounds like whatever change Google made, Izzy, it's been good for you and horrendous for me!

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          IzzyMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I am so sorry to hear that Marisa. Then again my traffic has been way down for weeks while everyone else's was up! Your traffic will return, I am sure of it

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          wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          You know, I have carefully hoarded and nurtured my hope that it wouldn't happen to me.  First Izzy and now you are driving stakes right into that hope, trying to kill it.
          
          Izzy's may be coming back - you make darn sure yours does soon!

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    Len Cannonposted 13 years ago

    Well, my HP stats haven't reflected it yet, but if my Adsense info is correct today might, uh, be a not good day. Real not good.

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    dilipchandra12posted 13 years ago

    Mine are going great... All Red Arrows UP... Thanks to HubPages idea of Sub-domain

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    JimmyTHposted 13 years ago

    I went through the same boom and crash as other people here. I'm suspecting the subdomain change has something to do with this, it seemed risky to me when HP decided to do it and I know another website owner who was ruined by tinkering with URL's. Google takes awhile to notice changes and respond to them, and the timing of what happened is right for that. Nice that not everyone was affected, but maybe the engine will get around to crushing everybody eventually. Currently my page views are so low it doesn't seem worthwhile to mess with hubs any more unless someone fixes the problem, and that's only a few days after they suddenly spiked to the highest ever. I'm considering taking hubs down and posting the material elsewhere, traffic to my own pages has been steady. I don't see the "holiday slump" elsewhere. I'm fed up with the roller coaster experience here.

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       wampyriiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       My traffic seems to be coming back today, hopefully that means the plummet was just a 'glitch' which fixes itself eventually...or of course, they could be rotating in an older set of results right now.
       
       Optimism is difficult to maintain when this happens so often lately but I'll cross my fingers this was a glitch and it'll fix itself across the board for everyone who was affected.

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    DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years ago

    Looking a little better this afternoon. Numbers have quadrupled since last night, but still nowhere near where they were. Still, a hopeful sign.

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    PaulGoodman67posted 13 years ago

    My traffic is falling rapidly.  I lost 33% of it in the last 24 hours.  I am (desperately) hoping  that it's a Labor Day weekend thing or a brief glitch.  As much as I like many of the "Plungers", I don't wish to join the club!  ;-)
    
    (One thing that often happens if you look at graphs of traffic is that a spike often precedes a drop and vice versa, so one can only live in hope?)
    
    Google said they were going to carry out 500 algorithm changes this year, they must have got to about algo change 332 by now!  :-)

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       Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I hope you don't become a "plunger" member either, Paul.  I'm still down over 75% traffic and money wise and am facing the first potential failure of making an Adsense payout in well over a year.  Last month was my highest Adsense month ever.  This month may be the lowest. 

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    thejeffriestubeposted 13 years ago

    I just payed my "plunger" dues on Friday! :-)

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       Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Great!  I was just going to email you a reminder, TJT.  You sure don't want to lose the perks the dues cover. 

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          WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Im not sure what really happen but i had a spike last 2 weeks and now over the last few days google traffic 0. None of my hubs rank for the keywords. In fact they must be buried down below page 20 because thats hwere I stopped looking for them
          
          I'm in the Google hates me corner , guess my dues was behind grrrrrr
          
          wha hapen ?

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             Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             No one knows what is going on.  My traffic has never been affected much before the sudden overnight drop I experienced.  Disgusting, to say the least.  Uncertain future expectations, to say the most. 

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                WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I have been following some of your posts on your recent fall Randy. I fell to levels below the average views. Hopefully the cream will rise to the top after a few days or weeks of washing again. I wonder if any respected writers such as yourself are experiencing any significant changes. I was going to name a few hubbers but better I just keep reading the forums for any positive or negitive insights.

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                   Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Nothing different for me.  Nothing from Big G at all and I'm not even going to address HP's response to the plunge.  No use anyway. 

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    overall my hubs have dropped slightly, my 2nd and 3rd best hubs are between 100-200 views a day when they have been up to around 500 each. My best hub however, is up to over 1000 views a day, which is the good news. I haven't really had time to do any backlinking etc, I've been putting all my effort into my employers site

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    DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years ago

    Someone slap RichieB for me, will ya?

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       Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Open or closed hand?

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          DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Whichever way will inflict the most pain!

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             Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Yep, the women in SC are still a vengeful bunch I see.  Oops, I misspelled bunch.

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       Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       No slapping! not nice Although I need something to wake me up, I've been making Web 2.0 blogs all day and finding out Wordpress themes were'nt adding RSS feed code because the files in the hosting panel needed the permissions changed!

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          Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          And to think I was wasting my time taking photos of rare wild animals!   
          
          
                             
          

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             Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I wish I was in that state of serenity

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    Richieb799posted 13 years ago

    My traffic has stayed fairly good, I'm already a third of the way to Adsense payout after 4 days into the month.. but you never know whats going to happen..really wish I had more time for my hubs

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       David 470posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       My traffic has started to increase again, but I call it maintaining because it's around certain numbers.
       
       About 34 dollar in 3 days

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       janderson99posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       New (perhaps Old) Theory
       Volatility depends on the number of external (non HP) links you have to your pages. No links => roller coaster  Lots of Links => Stable
       I have external links to all my pages which show in Webmasters and various link listing tools. My traffic has been relatively stable. If your links are mostly from HP then perhaps the reworking of the links is causing the volatility. My webmasters link list includes many links from 'related pages' on HP - but many of them are listed without the subdomain. Webmasters is always out of date and inaccurate.
       
       Anyway just a theory - do any of you who have lost traffic have solid external links to your pages - and vice versa??
       
       PS I suspect that the links between subdomains have low value even if they are classed as 'external' for the time being - who actually owns the subdomains???? see other thread.

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          wildernessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Can't agree with the linking theory.  I put up, as I remember, 4 external links (on such things as Redgage) to each hub and yahoo has never reported more than a handful for all 100 hubs combined. 
          
          A traffic jump when I got a subdomain, another a few days later, and stability since.  I see a small movement in that Friday and Saturday are poor, Sun and Mon are good, but I've seen that for months.
          
          According to google I own the subdomain.  They accepted me as the owner in webmaster.

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       Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I made payout after the first week last month right before the plunge, Richie.  The rest of the month hardly made a difference. 

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          Richieb799posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah I remember seeing you said that in one of your posts I don't spend much time on my hubs, but I just got paid and bought a new desktop, so now I have 2 computers to keep an eye on everything

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    Ms Chievousposted 13 years ago

    My traffic is still very very low.  I think it was funny to see my profile pic next to a Drano ad since I am officially a "plunger"  ( get it?)    No replies from Google yet ( if at all)  I guess I will just sit and wait for the next Panda update to come along....

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    kiwitomposted 13 years ago

    I think this dip is just temporary - like many others my traffic increased significantly after the subdomain change and then absolutely tanked. Yesterday i only had 3 views and these all came from internal links from other hubs. I checked Google using site:http://kiwitom.hubpages.com and not a single hub was indexed.
    However, I just tried again this morning - all my hubs are now back in the index and external traffic is now trickling in.
    To the best of my knowledge I didnt do anything to cause this to happen. The big question is to what extent the traffic rebuilds..

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       janderson99posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I think the url should be site:kiwitom.hubpages.com -shows 75 pages!

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       WoodsmensPostposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I hope your right I got hit hard about 4 days ago. All hubs are indexed

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    thejeffriestubeposted 13 years ago

    To all that put in for a reinclusion request with Big G. Make sure you log in to Webmaster Tools and see if they responded. Sometimes you will not get an email.

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       Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yep, they replied to my request there.  No manual actions taken by Google for any spammy violations on my site.  No need to file a reconsideration in my case.  It's my imagination, apparently. 

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    DIYweddingplannerposted 13 years ago

    Just checked, mine are still on the upswing. I need to start wearing a seatbelt on this ride...I feel a little sick!

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       PaulGoodman67posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       And I am back down to "Google Death Grip" levels of traffic.  I am not surprised, but disappointed.  I hope there's a recovery soon - as some other hubbers have come out again relatively quickly, there is hope, I think.
       
       My Blogger and Wordpress sites never seem to suffer swings anywhere near the HP level though, which makes me think that Google is targeting the "content farms" for special treatment, as they have promised.

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