Do You Believe in the Devil?

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  1. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

    Marine "I think adam and eve contradict evolution."

    you lost credability at the point when you said "I think"

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Still going? lol

      1. sooner than later profile image60
        sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        yep smile

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Protect the faith!

          1. sooner than later profile image60
            sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            no, expose the "ignorant individual". haha there I used your 2 favorite words against you.

            1. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Yes, you are clever! Pretty good for an old guy.

  2. Jerami profile image59
    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    When someone ask me  Evolution or creation I remember my grandmother asking me... sausage or bacon???   I want half a portion of each.  does it have to be either or ?

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, one contradicts the other.

      1. Jerami profile image59
        Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Only if you insist on seing it that way.

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          lol You consider adam and eve evolved?

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          Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          i agree with that

  3. aguasilver profile image71
    aguasilverposted 14 years ago

    I could have sworn that this thread was called 'Do you believe in the Devil' hmm

  4. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

    Marine- "Was you a male cheerleader in college?"

    Me- "Were you a male cheerleader in college?"



    No. smile

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Ah, so you majored in english and failed miserably in psychology! lol

      1. sooner than later profile image60
        sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        was you talkin to me?

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          Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          im begining to think you were right sooner than later

          1. sooner than later profile image60
            sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            ahh, I'm sorry you had to go through all that Steven, but you kept your cool. good job.

            1. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Yes, coach him. Don't let the devil get you riled up! lol Protect the faith!

  5. sooner than later profile image60
    sooner than laterposted 14 years ago

    tell you what, you got a new fan.

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      Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      thanks man.  its nice to meet you.  you seem like a great guy.

      1. sooner than later profile image60
        sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I'm not, I just went through this weeks before you did. thats all.

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          Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          thanks.  so what are your thoughts about the forum topic?

          1. sooner than later profile image60
            sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Forum topic- yes I beleive in the devil. Jesus does too.

            Your topic- I understand where you are coming from and I used to think close to the way you did. However, I am overly convinced now that the bible is completely accurate. Do some research on what has been retracted from evolution science- you will discover that they don't know any more now than they did 200 years ago. I have theories about dino's and more, but I have loads of info that debunks evolution "facts". more than happy to tell you more.

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              Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

              really?  so what's your theory about it?

            2. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

              lol

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                Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                whats so funny?

                1. marinealways24 profile image60
                  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  "However, I am overly convinced now that the bible is completely accurate"

                  lol

                  1. sooner than later profile image60
                    sooner than laterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    Steven,

                    Lets take this somewhere else. I will shoot you an email.

  6. Shealy Healy profile image59
    Shealy Healyposted 14 years ago

    Where's the love-here on the devil hub?

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    Stevennix2001posted 14 years ago

    love and devil in the same sentence?  lol

  8. sa282h profile image58
    sa282hposted 14 years ago

    Read Ezekiel ch 28 to learn that the Devil was not an angel that got kicked out of heaven. He was a very successful entrepreneur cherub creature who made lots of money merchandising; having four faces, one of a goat, one of a man, etc. His riches went to his head and he believed he would one day rule the world, thus corrupting himself at that point. The bible says he will get his wish. God told him his merchandising "filled the midst of thee with violence" and you read of the earth being "filled with violence" hastening God's decision for a Flood. The Devil has access to the earth (read the NT), even God's throne (read Job), hell being his final destination in the future. He most likely favors most of you, most of which befriend the world when the bible says not to: "whoseover shall be a friend of the world is the enemy of God" (James 4:4), since the world is Satan's (read Luke 4). You obtain your spouse this way, by befriending the world, when scripture says not to. The Devil rewards you good don't he?


    The devil getting kicked out of heaven happens in the FUTURE when he tries to go up there and war with God and the angels. That was the verse you read about Satan's fall. Again, wrongly interpreted by the pathetic Christian church who critiques the bible every chance they get.

  9. Cagsil profile image70
    Cagsilposted 14 years ago

    Is someone having belief reinforcement issues lately?

  10. PabstPenrose profile image60
    PabstPenroseposted 14 years ago

    I don't believe in the 'Devil' or 'God,' nor 'Heaven' or 'Hell.'

    I'm young, and still have alot of time to dwell on that subject. I have a small belief in spirits and ghosts, but I have no legit reason for believing it, really. I guess I'm just really looking for proof, other than having someone tell me to "Just take a look around."

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      Rick Marlowposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Back many years ago,I used to drink a Pabst Blue ribbon and eat a Penrose hot sausage. Any significance?

      1. PabstPenrose profile image60
        PabstPenroseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        People call me 'Pabst,' because it used to be the only beer I'd be seen with. I don't think I have any relations to Penrose Sausage, but there's a town in Colorado named after my Great, Great, Great, something.

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          Rick Marlowposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Here in the Carolina`s we have a hot pickled sausage,red colored,about 2 inches long.They usually sit right on the bar in about a 3 gallon jar.Folks eat one as they drink beer.Usually have them with a saltine cracker.They are sold in major grocery stores.Kind of hot and real spicy.Wish I had one now,dang it.

          1. PabstPenrose profile image60
            PabstPenroseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I'm going to have to pick a jar up somewhere. Maybe I'll use it as a pick up line or something, if I'm not looking for success, haha.

    2. sa282h profile image58
      sa282hposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      God didn't prove his creatorhood to Adam nor Eve so I don't see why he would with you either.

      But if you believe it was just a myth, then you are taking that belief beyond the grave into the unknown...

      It'd be smarter to fear God beforehand and believe the stories.

      He's a tricky omniscient phantom who said "without FAITH it is impossible to please God." (bible)

      1. PabstPenrose profile image60
        PabstPenroseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        I don't fear this man called God, and I believe that the bible is full of metephors. I may never find proof, there's too much screrecy.

      2. Cagsil profile image70
        Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        The faith in a higher power doesn't jive with reality down on Earth. Faith is something more people need to have in themselves, than a so-called 'higher' authority.

        People need to change their way of thinking, before someone else does something really stupid, like start WWIII. Which can be seen on the horizon. We have enough nuclear weapons in the world to destroy the whole planet.

        You should try have faith in your own ability and create a more purposeful life for yourself, than sitting in a forum spouting off religious texts, as though you know it by heart.

        I can see you have are going through a tough time with your belief- how ever- coming into a forum and spouting out your beliefs will only get you grief. If you think it matters to other people what your beliefs are? Then, I think you need to re-think.

        Most people don't give a rats arse about what your beliefs are. Why? Because, they have their own. They have formed their own belief system and nothing anyone says, can change that.

    3. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You are a smart kid! Keep a strong mind. Weak believer minds will try to corrupt you! lol

      1. earnestshub profile image79
        earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Good on you Marine, someone has to protect kids from being indoctrinated with this rot! smile

        1. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Yes Earnest, "God" forbid that any kid be allowed to have an individual mind, self awareness, and common sense! This must be put to an end by the believers! It challenges faith! lol
          How are you today?

        2. paulhvv profile image60
          paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Should you sincerely want the truth it is out there and as surely as I live so does God. Ask Him. If you don't hear, then ask Him to open your ears. I believe God will back up my words. I too have to ask for my ears to be open daily.

          1. earnestshub profile image79
            earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            And if god doesn't open your ears, go to the bottom of your garden and pray to those fairies, and if they don't open your ears........... smile

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              poetlorraineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              i have to agree with the person who started the thread about you Earnest hub remember what she said

              1. earnestshub profile image79
                earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Do you also remember that every post disagreed with her? that there were dozens of replys in support of me?
                Or do you only run "selective" memory! lol

                1. paulhvv profile image60
                  paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this
            2. paulhvv profile image60
              paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              You mean you don't believe in fairies????

          2. PabstPenrose profile image60
            PabstPenroseposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            My ears are open, I passed my doctor's hearing test last week.

  11. Niteriter profile image61
    Niteriterposted 14 years ago

    "Enslavement" is a big word, Cagsil, but probably close to home on this topic!

  12. Cagsil profile image70
    Cagsilposted 14 years ago

    Well, at the time of Jesus Christ, that is what religious/spiritual leaders were doing.

    That is specifically what they did to people. FORCED Slavery!

    The religious leaders, believed mankind had to answer to a higher authority, if they were to be controlled. They were forced to live how others wanted them to live and not of their own free will.

    Thinking for yourself wasn't allowed. If you thought for yourself or didn't believe in their 'god', then you were destroyed.

    kind of like it is today. If religion didn't exist. People would be completely self-dependent and self-reliant. Really quick. If you knew and understood that there really isn't a higher authority to answer to?

    What would your life be like?

  13. Lisa HW profile image62
    Lisa HWposted 14 years ago

    I don't believe in the devil, and yet there is an odd creature in my post:

    http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g235/flor_petunia_tulipan/funny%20cartoons/devilll.gif

    1. paulhvv profile image60
      paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I see him, knock him on the head.lol

      1. Lisa HW profile image62
        Lisa HWposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        No....   he's cute.  I think I'll see if he'd like some of my cat's food.   lol

        1. paulhvv profile image60
          paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          You wouldnt think so If the fork pricked you.lol

  14. earnestshub profile image79
    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    god made god then he made adam and saw that he had screwed up, so he made eve, eve screwed up so he made the devil to take the rap... eve screwed adam and they has kids who screwed each other ....... and that's how it all began.... simple really! smile

    1. paulhvv profile image60
      paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Great so who made God? to make God.

      1. Jewels profile image83
        Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Was God the chicken or the egg?

        1. paulhvv profile image60
          paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Now theres a question?

          1. Jewels profile image83
            Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            It is indeed but has been done to death.  Nobody found the answer, just thought I'd save you the trouble.  It's what's known as a mind f*ck trying.  I suppose enjoyable if you've nothing better to do.

            1. paulhvv profile image60
              paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              I think our human brain can't understand certain things, But I do believe, That there is a spiritual world out there. The devil. whooooo, Just a fallen angel.

              1. Jewels profile image83
                Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I've no doubt about spiritual realms.  Are you into states of consciousness by chance?

                1. paulhvv profile image60
                  paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  If you are asking, if I realise that I have to make a decision to be holy every hour of the day, the answer is yes.

                  1. Jewels profile image83
                    Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    Not quite.

      2. earnestshub profile image79
        earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        God did of course, omni everything find your car keys God! lol

        1. paulhvv profile image60
          paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Still a no brainer. Next. No offence. Doesnt satisfy my answer.

      3. mohitmisra profile image61
        mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        If some entity made god then that entity would be termed as god.

        1. paulhvv profile image60
          paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Good answer. I believe nothing made God he just was and is. That is about the furthest my puny brain can understand.

          1. mohitmisra profile image61
            mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            You got it right so your brain is not so puny smile

            1. paulhvv profile image60
              paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              Limited to understanding certain things.

              1. mohitmisra profile image61
                mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                We all are smile

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    fierycjposted 14 years ago

    Boom! No I do not believe inthe Devil...that would make me a Satanist...wink

    1. paulhvv profile image60
      paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Good one

  16. Bucks here profile image60
    Bucks hereposted 14 years ago

    I dont believe in the Devil because I believe in God, and yes there is a Devil.

  17. HOOWANTSTONO profile image60
    HOOWANTSTONOposted 14 years ago

    There is a Devil I dont believe in him, because he is a looser

    1. paulhvv profile image60
      paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      In the end.

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      poetlorraineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      a powerful loser though

      1. paulhvv profile image60
        paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Yes, Only on earth, As we know, not in God's kingdom. His day of Judgement, as us all, is coming.

        1. HOOWANTSTONO profile image60
          HOOWANTSTONOposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Not powerful at all, only a liar, and there in lies his power. a lie.

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    poetlorraineposted 14 years ago

    my belief also........ yes since 1914 he has had power only on earth is that correct

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    poetlorraineposted 14 years ago

    well he fools a lot of people into thinking he does not exist,  that is some power.... in my eyes

    1. HOOWANTSTONO profile image60
      HOOWANTSTONOposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes thats true, but then its also not power, because power has substance, and lies are empty, and void of truth, hence no power.

      1. paulhvv profile image60
        paulhvvposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        He has power over people that don't believe.

        1. earnestshub profile image79
          earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Quite the opposite! Like all psych boogy men, he only has power over believers! smile

        2. marinealways24 profile image60
          marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          The only power or "lack of" is in your belief battered mind. The tooth fairy would still be real to you if I put money under your pillow when you lose a tooth. Am I the tooth fairy? Have faith.

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            poetlorraineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            guess what in my religion, we don't believe in the tooth fairy.  In fact we don't actually teach our children anything that is not the truth

            1. marinealways24 profile image60
              marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

              What religion is that?

        3. Jewels profile image83
          Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Isn't it more that the power is over those who are unaware and blindly follow like sheep.  This is not a venomous statement, more that it's naught to do with belief and everything to do with how a person acts and reacts to what is put in front of them at any given moment.

    2. earnestshub profile image79
      earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You mean the rhubarb written in the bible fools people in to believing it does exist. lol

  20. prettydarkhorse profile image61
    prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago

    NO

  21. earnestshub profile image79
    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    Agree with who? lol Yourself? smile

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      poetlorraineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      how are your grandchildren,

      1. earnestshub profile image79
        earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Fantastic thanks! smile

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          poetlorraineposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          glad to hear it, i see there are two threads on this subject.  Would you be upset if your grandchildren believed in god.

          1. earnestshub profile image79
            earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            No, disappointed perhaps! I do not think I would like to try and sell it even to the youngest four year old twin. Lauren would cross examine every word, and her to be a lawyer twin would join in with lots of "Yes but granpa you saids"
            Nah, no risk of it happening at all! smile

  22. Shealy Healy profile image59
    Shealy Healyposted 14 years ago

    A most free moment in  my life was that educational/experiental moment when I formed the opinion that the mythical devil of my childhood did not exist.

    1. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I refer to this is individualism when the "light comes on". The religious believer breaks the switch.

      1. aguasilver profile image71
        aguasilverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        That's what all atheists seem to do, break the switch to spiritual contact.

        Satan cares not whether you break the switch, why should he, he owns you already, all he wants is to keep you persuaded that he does not exist.

        It doesn't matter what you do then, good or bad, he still owns you, because you have broken the switch that gets you to God.

        ...and the saddest thing is, all you can do about hearing the truth is to pour scorn on it, hoping it will go away?

        1. earnestshub profile image79
          earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I suggest it should go away, hate and fear is no basis for any belief. smile

          1. Cagsil profile image70
            Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Also, beliefs are to be based on emotions either.

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    Deborah Sextonposted 14 years ago

    Since in Hebrew the word for Devil means Advasary yes I believe in the devil.
    Lucifer is what you are referring to.

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    Deborah Sextonposted 14 years ago

    Hate and fear. Night and day, good and evil are all in man's mind of duality. God is unity. When someone says God allows evil or is cruel it is because mankind likes to shift the blame off himself and onto others.
    People say God allowed a child to drown but nope that is the parents who did this.

  25. earnestshub profile image79
    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    Here is some more of "man's mind of duality", but posing as a god. Your god.

    The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived.  Even if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you.  It will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone.  I have watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre.  But now Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered."  O LORD, what should I request for your people?  I will ask for wombs that don't give birth and breasts that give no milk.  The LORD says, "All their wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them.  I will drive them from my land because of their evil actions.  I will love them no more because all their leaders are rebels.  The people of Israel are stricken.  Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit.  And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children."   (Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

    Hate filled neurotic little god!

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      Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      During Hosea's lifetime, the kings of the Northern Kingdom, their aristocratic supporters, and the priests had led the people away from the Law of God, as given in the Pentateuch. Forsaking the worship of God, they worshiped other gods, especially Baal, the Canaanite fertility god. Other sins followed, including homicide, perjury, theft, and sexual sin. Hosea declares that unless they repent of these sins, God will allow their nation to be destroyed, and the people will be taken into captivity by Assyria (Ho 9.3; 11.5), the greatest nation of the time.
      God was not saying these things. Man made these laws and punishments because of their loyalty to God. it is the same in Ezekiel and Deuteronomy.
      They were laws made and carried out by those who ruled over Israel. Israel had made a covenant then broke it. Moses was very firm in his laws because he was close to God. Moses also displayed temper.
      They are not saying for the people to kill others (Thou shalt not kill) It is not  God actually saying this  It is the courts, the law makers same as it is today.

      1. earnestshub profile image79
        earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        <snipped - no personal attacks in the Forums>

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          Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Oh look the Hubpages sent a message

  26. ZoEllyn profile image60
    ZoEllynposted 14 years ago

    The "devil" and all forms of evil exsist,but only in our minds.
    I do believe possessions and demonic presnences occur, but to
    ONLY TO THOSE WHO BELIEVE.

    I do not believe in evil, and if you were to spend 4 minutes with me you would see i am one of the happiest and most spiritual people you have ever met.

    I think your outlook on life and death are what may or may not create evil(in your life). And again, thats evil,FOR YOU(the believer).

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      Joel233posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You don't believe in evil? well if you don't believe it must not exist. So if someone kills or rapes that's not evil? I'd hate to meet you.

  27. profile image0
    lyricsingrayposted 14 years ago

    why would a made up character actually exist??

    1. Cagsil profile image70
      Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      lol true enough lol

      1. Stimp profile image59
        Stimpposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        What?  I do it all the time.  They are called my "secret friends"...since I really have none of my own, I have to make them up. lol

      2. Stimp profile image59
        Stimpposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        What?  I do it all the time.  They are called my "secret friends"...since I really have none of my own, I have to make them up. :

  28. tantrum profile image60
    tantrumposted 14 years ago

    Always the same earnest.
    What do you expect ? lol

    1. earnestshub profile image79
      earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      More of the same! lol

      1. tantrum profile image60
        tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        lol
        Don't you get bored sometimes ?
        It's like talking to a Psychotic Wall . If that could exist ! lol

        1. earnestshub profile image79
          earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I do get bored. I don't know how much fear they have, but it is a lot! Poor buggers! smile

          1. tantrum profile image60
            tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Not all believers are like that. I know a few which are great.
            They don't post in the forums though ! lol

            1. earnestshub profile image79
              earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              I have a huge variety of religions in my family, so I know that is true. smile I still tell them they're crazy! smile

              1. tantrum profile image60
                tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Some are frightened to be all by themselves in this 'terrible' world ! lol

  29. aware profile image68
    awareposted 14 years ago

    deviled meats are real

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      what kind of 'meat' is that ??

  30. aware profile image68
    awareposted 14 years ago

    im not sure what company makes them but the have all kinds in lil cans

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      lol lol

      Do you mean devil ham ?

      Very tasty !

  31. aware profile image68
    awareposted 14 years ago

    yeah they have  other flavors too i think .like a patay  i like it too

    1. tantrum profile image60
      tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      DEVILISH !!  lol

  32. earnestshub profile image79
    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    From wikipedia

    Psychosis (from the Greek ψυχή "psyche", for mind or soul, and -ωσις "-osis", for abnormal condition) literally means abnormal condition of the mind, and is a generic psychiatric term for a mental state often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality". People suffering from psychosis are said to be psychotic.

    People experiencing psychosis may report hallucinations or delusional beliefs, and may exhibit personality changes and thought disorder. This may be accompanied by unusual or bizarre behavior, as well as difficulty with social interaction and impairment in carrying out the daily life activities.

    A wide variety of central nervous system diseases, from both external poisons and internal physiologic illness, can produce symptoms of psychosis.

    However, many people have unusual and unshared (distinct) experiences of what they perceive to be different realities without fitting the clinical definition of psychosis. For example, many people in the general population have experienced hallucinations related to religious or paranormal experience.[1][2] As a result, it has been argued that psychosis is simply an extreme state of consciousness that falls beyond the norms experienced by most.[3] In this view, people who are clinically found to be psychotic may simply be having particularly intense or distressing experiences.

    Looks a lot like religion to me! smile

    1. aguasilver profile image71
      aguasilverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Funny, I know lot's of Christians personally (like I see them every day and all at least once a week) and about 60 worldwide that I receive and send mail to, and I don't know anybody who meets your description of psychotic amongst them.

      You can never understand or admit this, but the Christians I know do not have fear, fear comes from Satan because God stated He has not given us a spirit of fear, they instead have an inner peace which admittedly may get fractured (call it righteous anger) when they hear Christ being mocked and blasphemed, but they are peaceable again soon enough.

      I don't know how long you have been out of Christianity, nor have you explained what caused you to turn from a follower of Christ to an Antichrist.

      I suspect you never were filled with the Holy Spirit, or you could not deny His existence as you do.

      For whatever reason you attack Christ, I forgive you and pray for your peace.

      But I will pull you whenever you do attack Christ, for there is no need.

      By all means have no faith and believe in nothing, but exercise the tolerance you demand, on others beliefs also.

      Good night Ernest, see you tomorrow no doubt.

      1. earnestshub profile image79
        earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Good night aquasilver, sleep well. smile

        1. aguasilver profile image71
          aguasilverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks I will if you will keep off the forums for a few minutes to let me get to bed.... your hopping around like a kangaroo and it's making me late to bed! wink

      2. Jewels profile image83
        Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        To extend on the nature of psychosis, a good analogy is that a neurotic person will create castles in the air, a psychotic person lives in the created castle.

    2. dyonder profile image73
      dyonderposted 14 years ago

      Or heavy drug use, which can be a devil itself to some.

    3. earnestshub profile image79
      earnestshubposted 14 years ago

      I think the wiki definition of psychosis fits the biblical god like a glove! smile

    4. Beth100 profile image68
      Beth100posted 14 years ago

      You tell me big_smile

    5. profile image0
      Twenty One Daysposted 14 years ago

      if you believe such, then you know Lucifer was the brightest angel for a time. He went rogue. Lost it all. And now is no more.

      "ding dong the devils dead, that wicked ole wicked ole devils dead, ding dong the wicked devils dead. hi ho the merry oh...."

      ( i forgot the rest of that song. lol )

      1. Jewels profile image83
        Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        But is it dead?  There would be no light without the dark.  The dark has a role to play in the world.  It reflects to use the state of mind we are in at any given time.  A person has a choice in every minute as to how he reacts. And looking at how man reacts these days I'm sure the 'devil' is alive and kicking.

    6. Shealy Healy profile image59
      Shealy Healyposted 14 years ago

      It is good to see this topic still growing. It shows there are thinkers in the world. I asked this question because so many of us experienced childhood fears and nightmares of the devil. I hope we have outgrown them. I have.

    7. Lisa HW profile image62
      Lisa HWposted 14 years ago

      I can't believe that 700-plus posts, and six weeks later, this thread is still kicking around.  lol  There's really that many people willing debate the existence of "The Devil", eh?

    8. Jewels profile image83
      Jewelsposted 14 years ago

      It's really interesting to hear people say Christ has to be defended.  Isn't 'Christ' big and bold enough not to need anyone fight for it?  Or is it that people need to defend their own beliefs in order to feel good about themselves?  Isn't there a seed of doubt in the believer when one has to fight for a belief?  If there was no doubt there'd be no need to defend.  Food for thought.

      1. profile image0
        Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        Indeed, He needs no defense.
        It is not 'defending' should one be in fact pure of heart. Fighting for any belief simple states that one does not possess the fullness of it and therefore thinks they must a)fight to keep what they have or b)fight to take what they need c)fight to keep others from taking what they possess. A good example are these hub pages where daily 'battles' continue to rage on believer v believer, evolutionist v believer, atheist and anti-theist v believer and vice versa.

        1. Jewels profile image83
          Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          But if one just likes to argue because there is enjoyment in the experience, then that's ok.  Just good to be honest and understand the difference! smile

    9. waynet profile image68
      waynetposted 14 years ago

      Yes the devil is real....don't tell anyone, but no word of a lie! the devil lives in my ass!!

      1. tantrum profile image60
        tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        and what is he doing in there ?? yikes

        1. profile image0
          lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          and how long has he been there yikes  ?

          1. waynet profile image68
            waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            3 days

        2. waynet profile image68
          waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          He's sulking at the moment as he is grounded and was sent to bed without any supper!!

          1. tantrum profile image60
            tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Don't tell me you're God !!! yikes big_smile

            1. profile image0
              lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              OMG yikes yikes yikes yikes yikes yikes  can Ihave your ass-o-graph?

              1. waynet profile image68
                waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Sure ya can, but be warned I've got the curry runs tonight!!!!!!

                1. profile image0
                  lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  lol ok that was hilarious lol

                  1. waynet profile image68
                    waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                    For you maybe, I've made a right mess of my trousers!!

            2. waynet profile image68
              waynetposted 14 years agoin reply to this

              No I am Dog!

    10. profile image0
      lyricsingrayposted 14 years ago

      he's lying right beside me geez ouch oops lol

      1. tantrum profile image60
        tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

        lol

    11. AdsenseStrategies profile image64
      AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years ago

      It would explain a lot: God knows there's enough evil in the world..

    12. Singular Investor profile image71
      Singular Investorposted 14 years ago

      I once tried to make a pact with the Devil, I asked him to dump a million pounds on my doorstep, in exchange for which he could have my soul. But he never did. So I lost all faith in him after that. Try it. You are allowed to tempt the Devil.

     
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