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Do the Rich Help the Poor?

  1. profile image0
    annvansposted 8 years ago

    Do you personally know of any rich people who have found a poor person and helped them?  I am not talking about people standing in front of grocery stores handing out $10.00 gift cards to anyone that walks by.  I mean have you ever known of any rich person seeking out a poor to help them?

    1. Lady_E profile image83
      Lady_Eposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Loads of times Ann.

      A popular one is Millionaires who visit communities/people who are poor or in need of financial support. The millionaire doesn't tell the people that he/she is rich and lives in a humble accommodation near them.  He/she spends time with them to see what they do. Sometimes its people working on a voluntary basis to serve a community. The millionaire leaves in a week. However, before they leave they pay one last visit to say goodbye and confess that they are actually a millionaire and leave the people with a big cheque.

      The Secret Millionaire.

      1. tritrain profile image75
        tritrainposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Incidentally, I'm poor. 

        Any help would be greatly appreciated!

        1. LeeWalls profile image60
          LeeWallsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          lolll

        2. BobbiRant profile image60
          BobbiRantposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/lol-061.gif

          To LeeWalls

          I'm sure a millionaire will show up at your door any minute now with a check.

      2. brimancandy profile image83
        brimancandyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        If Millionaires give large amounts of money to the poor, it is only so that they can claim it on their taxes. I think they can also claim it as a loss, meaning that they can claim that they made less money, which puts them into a lower tax bracket, and they get that money back.

        There are some that do it out of the goodness of their heart. But, people are that rich have accountants who do the re-pocketing of giving back to that person. So, they have no reason to feel guilty. And, you can applaud them for their efforts to help.

        But, some of the richest people have only one thing in mind, and that is getting richer. They could care less about the poor.

        1. carlsandy222 profile image57
          carlsandy222posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          I pray for help. Me and my husband need help finacial. We are both disabled. We live in Granite City IL. My Name is Sandra Kukarola

        2. carlsandy222 profile image57
          carlsandy222posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Please contact me I live in Granite City IL and my name is Sandra Kukarola. Message for the The Secret Millionaire.

      3. marinealways24 profile image60
        marinealways24posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I think in most cases, the rich help the poor get poorer.

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          annvansposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          lol, how funny!

      4. tksensei profile image61
        tksenseiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah, they pay disproportionate taxes.

      5. Harvey Stelman profile image59
        Harvey Stelmanposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I've know many. They don't "seek" out anyone. Haven't you ever watch TV and they ran a story about someone needing surgery or something else.

        The next night that program says; An unknown has come forward to pay the bills of that person. Many do so much and want no credit.

        Hospital's get wings and equipment, community centers are built.... I could go on but most people have no conception on this topic.

        1. Susana S profile image93
          Susana Sposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I agree. When people are super rich if they want to be philanthropic they do something that will benefit as many people as possible such as paying for a new hospital wing in a state hospital. Giving food out or giving someone shelter is what people on meagre means do to help someone else and that's great. It's what I do because those are the kinds of things I can afford to do.

          As for taxes being stealing that's just ignorant. I like having a fire service, sewerage, free medical treatment, rubbish disposal, free school places for my children, roads, benefits for people that really can't work etc, etc etc.

          1. ledefensetech profile image68
            ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Well you know what they say, you get what you pay for.  When you pay free, you don't get to choose the service you have to put up with whatever is available.  Why do you think the wealthy have their own security, emergency services, etc.  When you yourself pay, you can pay for quality.

            1. Mike Craggs profile image73
              Mike Craggsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              Damn, I'm having a bad day. First I get (subtly) accused of being juvenile, then I get called ignorant and now I've got to agree with LDT. Is there no end to my ignominy?

              Hey, LDT, have you  ever read Robert Higgs on The Beacon, the blog of The Independent Institute?

              I agree that the public sector are largely rubbish and have ripped me off for tens of thousands of pounds, but as they aren't likely to give it back I need to come up with some other way to replace it.

              Do you see HubPages as being a form of entrepreneurial activity? It may not have Bill Gates sweating at night at the thought of not being the world's wealthiest guy any more, but we all have to start somewhere. And by a method that fits our skills, personalities and desires.

      6. kmackey32 profile image81
        kmackey32posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I have met a couple people online who have helped me!

        1. carlsandy222 profile image57
          carlsandy222posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Please refer them to me as because of repairs and problems with my home I am almost 45000 in debt not counting the almost 24000 on the home loan. I live in Granite City IL and my name is Sandra Kukarola.

        2. umerayubfarooqui profile image60
          umerayubfarooquiposted 22 months agoin reply to this

          Hello Dear, can you please give me their email address or anything.I need 6000 dollars in urgent.I need it for medical condition.I live in Pakistan.
          please dear
          for god sake give me their detail
          Thanks

      7. anjalichugh profile image81
        anjalichughposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        There are many, in fact. Narayana Murthy, one of the founders of Infosys Technologies (CEO for 21 yrs for Infosys) used to donate 75% of his annual income (that's substantial) to a Trust which helped the weaker sections with food and other necessities, globally. There are many like him.

        1. my-success-guru profile image60
          my-success-guruposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Microsoft Corporation co-founder Bill Gates together with his wife Melinda are the most generous American donors to worthy causes. The Gates Foundation, which is dedicated mostly to the areas of health and education donated more than half their net worth, a total of $US22.9 billion ($A31.8 billion), over the past five years, to the foundation.

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            Saddenedposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Bill Gates seem to be the exception to the rule - he is very generous. Even Oprah one of the richest woman in the world all you keep hearing about is her helping Africa what about the US and everyone here we need help too - maybe just maybe if all the CEO, famous people, NY and Bevery HIll socialites gave $100,000.00 to all the hard workers who have lost their jobs instead of buying $8000 pair of shoes $300 lipsticks - oh yeah I forgot most of the time they get all of their stuff free just because of their name free diamonds, clothes, shoes , hair cuts etc etcx - why dont they donate all that stuff for people who are starving, cant affort to pay their medical co-pays, their mortgages etc - it would be so nic for people to not be so selfish.  The business people are the worst they decide their funds are more important to donate to all of the politicians campaigns instead of to the food bank, FARMERS etc. this county is filled with a bunch of greedy, self-centered , self absorbed people with most of them not deserving what they have.

      8. AEvans profile image70
        AEvansposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Yes I have and still do smile

        1. queenbe profile image60
          queenbeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                               

          What an awesome question. I have seen these stories on tv. like Oprah but I do not personally know of anyone who does this in a financial way. My only means of helping others is by giving of myself through good deeds, sharing what I have if they are in need. I know there are people out there somewhere who do this but I have not met one. Great question and food for thought. Q

      9. Arthur Fontes profile image85
        Arthur Fontesposted 6 years agoin reply to this



        If I remember correctly there was a time that I found myself unemployed.  To my utter dismay I was hired by a wealthy person.  This definitely changed both mine and my family's life.

        1. Doug Hughes profile image59
          Doug Hughesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          You are making a reply to a comment from 19 months ago?

          Hate to start a game of chess with you. My granddaughter would have to finish it.

          1. Arthur Fontes profile image85
            Arthur Fontesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            SO!

            AND THEN!

      10. Cheeky Girl profile image80
        Cheeky Girlposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        There are many wealthy people who donate to good causes and give without looking for anything in return. They just want to see things get better for the less well of and the more needy.

        If all the wealth of the world was evenly shared around every citizen on the planet, in about 2 years, it would be back to the original way of the rich having more and the poor having less. Why? Because of the "system". Because of the way things are mostly tipped in favor of the well off.

        Solution, educate people about wealth and money, about saving, making things, the value of money, of compounding money. Of how to not hate money or be afraid of it. Learn the value of Labour. There is too much emphasis of the poor relying on the rich. By and large, most Govts are today going after the middle class, and less inclined to go after the poor.

        War could be argued to be an extension of inequality. Better to educate, eradicate financial ignorance, and learn to share the wealth, than risk the bigger issues and uncertainties that could follow. We are all human, and we all need each other...

      11. Maembe profile image61
        Maembeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I do.  A lot of rich people help poor people.  A lot of rich people don't.

      12. Evan G Rogers profile image79
        Evan G Rogersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        yeah, definitely.

        I personally know that many poor families have iPods and other wonderful devices in their homes (cars) because individuals invested time and money into making the production of those things cheaper.

        Everything in my home is something that "a rich person" has helped me afford.

        If it wasn't for Bill Gates, I don't think i'd be having this conversation.

        If it wasn't for Henry Ford and Rockefeller, I wouldn't be able to drive the distance I need to get a good job.

      13. Obscure_Treasures profile image52
        Obscure_Treasuresposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        It is rather difficult to gauge what is enough help to the poor, especially on a general basis. Maybe we can look at each particular rich individual or entity, but even that may present a problem on data which may not be available, or, if it were, may not give us the true picture. What is tricky in this particular question is that, if the answer here were ‘yes’ then there would be no poverty in our country anymore. And we all know what points to a logical contrary answer. The fact is that the rich can only do so much in alleviating the needs of the poor because it is the government that is mandated by law to be at the forefront of fighting poverty in our country by whatever legal and moral methods available. As for the help from the rich, I tend to believe and it’s safe to say that it is far from enough!

      14. jacobmiltonhope profile image60
        jacobmiltonhopeposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        Rich people always live in humble accommodation. But many rich people do help the poor, but some of them never do this. So this is unpredictable that rich people never help poor.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image29
          Castlepalomaposted 10 months agoin reply to this

          I have known many millionaire and the odd billionaires. Very rarely would the rich help the poor, by far they give themselves more and to the poor less. The vast majority are over focus on financial for a reason , to survive, rarely thrives.

    2. Misha profile image76
      Mishaposted 8 years ago

      Yes, they do. smile

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      annvansposted 8 years ago

      Must be not in this area then, never heard of a rich person helping a poor person other than the guy that was married to nicole kidman (cant remember his name) but he paid some girls medical bills one time.  I have never heard of anyone else though.

      1. Misha profile image76
        Mishaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I can think of at least three reasons for that from the top of my head;
        - People who tend to genuinely help, usually tend to be quiet about that;
        - Government does not like such stories as they hurt their case for collecting social taxes, and press usually does not push them for that reason.
        - You did not look hard enough. When I saw your question, I immediately thought about Angelina and Brad adopting children...

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          annvansposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          But is adopting children because you want them mean you are helping the poor?

          1. Misha profile image76
            Mishaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I would think - if you take them from a poor family. It helps in several ways - lighten this poor family financial situation, solves material side for this particular child, and also gives this child an opportunity.

            If you don't like an adoption example, take Bill and Melinda Gates foundation smile

        2. Mike Craggs profile image73
          Mike Craggsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah, but is Angelina Jolie a chicken or an egg?

          Does the humanitarian work she does offset the promotion of that high consumption lifestyle of jets and international travel and cosseted luxury, even if inadvertent promotion, that may lead to the conflicts and consequential human rights abuses that arise in getting the resources to fund that kind of life?



          I think I would agree with that in the main. There may be a few nice rich people, but not many - or else why are the so many poor?

          1. tksensei profile image61
            tksenseiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            That makes no sense whatsoever.

            1. Mike Craggs profile image73
              Mike Craggsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              It does to me. (But then I am often in a minority of one.)

              If all the rich people were incredibly nice, caring and compassionate then they would help the poor and so there would be no poor. Admittedly an oversimplification, but if I go into all the shades of grey this will be an awfully long thread.

              Of course that assumes that one individual can "help" another. You would have to start another thread on the definition of help. For instance does giving someone money solve their poverty or simply deal with the symptom of their poverty: their lack of cash. Is some aspect of poverty (that isn't forced upon an individual by external circumstances, like, say, war) a lack of intelligence, ability, or simply a lack of motivation or focus to spend their energy on in order to improve their own life?

              Do the rich have an obligation to help the poor? And if so does that mean that the poor have an obligation to make others rich by supplying their labour so that they can then, in turn, be helped by those more motivated people?

              1. tksensei profile image61
                tksenseiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                You can think a little further ahead than that, can't you?

                1. Mike Craggs profile image73
                  Mike Craggsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  Huh? You've lost me now. Further ahead in which direction?

                  That the poor do work to make the wealth for the rich, but those rich people then simply pocket the money and do nothing back for the poor. Which is largely where the world is now. Where the trickle down effect of capitalism isn't working because the wealthy have built a dam across that cash flow to create vast reservoirs of money for themselves and to hell with the poor. So the gap between the haves and the have nots continues to widen - and for my money (no pun intended) largely always will.

                  1. ledefensetech profile image68
                    ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    You're so full of it dude.  You can't spit in this country without hitting a charity and that's even with the monstrous welfare state that's about to destroy us all like a tsunami.  Be honest, what you really mean is that you wish you had that sort of money and power, but for whatever reason you didn't do what you had to in order to get it.  You want someone to give it to you, not work for it.

                    1. Mike Craggs profile image73
                      Mike Craggsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                      I am. That's why I like to spread it around a little. It stops me exploding and drowning the world under a tidal wave of excrement.

                      And actually I don't wish I had that sort of wealth and power. I have no desire to destroy a couple of countries, to kill millions and maim millions more. And if that is what I have to do in order to get it, to pursue wealth and power over the corpses of humanity then, then I am quite happy without it.

                      But while we're talking about giving: you can't lend me a couple of bucks can you? I need to buy a plane ticket to Gault's Gultch.

                  2. tksensei profile image61
                    tksenseiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    No offense, but how old are you?

        3. Aya Katz profile image87
          Aya Katzposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Misha, I don't think adopting a child should be a charitable act. Unless you really want the child and this addition to your family is something that you see as an improvement in your own life, then you're not doing the child any good. Children need to feel wanted.

          1. Misha profile image76
            Mishaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah, I agree Aya. And I tend to think that Angelina and Brad wanted them smile

        4. ledefensetech profile image68
          ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Actually Misha, the government's actions about social welfare tend to put private charities out of business.  Why should people donate to charity when they already pay in taxes to support the poor?  Especially when you have criminals like Papa Obama taking more and more away from the most productive members of society and giving it to the least productive.

          1. Lady_E profile image83
            Lady_Eposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            People are never forced to give to charity. Its an act of Free Will and as for "criminals? like Papa Obama", he didn't put the money in his bank account, did he?  Do you begrudge the least productive people in your society?

            1. ledefensetech profile image68
              ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              What world do you live on?  Criminals like Papa Obama take, steal, rob people via taxes, so they can bribe the ignorant and vulnerable so that they can continue be elected so they can continue to skim off the top.  Paying taxes is not free will, it's involuntary.  If you refuse to pay taxes, you get sent to jail.  What part of that is voluntary. 

              I don't begrudge anyone except when they lie, cheat and steal while trying to cover it up as something noble.  You might be stupid enough to fall for such mind numbing nonsense, but others are not quite to naive and ignorant.  Why do you have such a hate-on for people who create the jobs that keep you and your family fed?

              1. Lady_E profile image83
                Lady_Eposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Take time to read carefully. I wrote, Charity is an act of free will not "paying Taxes".  (Its the norm for every worker in every country to pay Taxes)

                I have no hate attitude whatsoever towards anyone  and as for Jobs that keep me and my family fed, I own an I.T Company.

                I actually think you should run for the next presidency. It seems you have more experience and you'll do a better job.  Wishing you good luck with it.

          2. Misha profile image76
            Mishaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Absolutely LDT, I fully agree. smile

        5. earnestshub profile image90
          earnestshubposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Angela and Brad are a fine example of the rich looking after the poor.

          I sent a few thousand dollars to a family I met in the Bronx once.

          I stayed with their family for a few days and saw how they lived.
          The money was not important to me at the time, I was doing fine.

          I sent it with instructions that I did not want the money returned.
          I got a letter from them after I had been back in OZ for a while.

          In it was my money and a letter saying that they had been able to use the few bob I gave them to repair their major problems and are now doing well.

          I only gave them enough to take care of the bills, but somehow they turned it all around. All they needed was a little help. I sent the money back again with a letter that said. "Well if you can do so much with the money you will make better use of it than I will," which was true.

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            selvicharlesposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Dear Sir,

            I am a Christian from Chennai, India.  I am married and have two
            daughters studying in college.  My husband is a drunkard and jobless.
            Inspite of taking him to rehabilitation centres it is of no use.

            I am struggling a lot to maintain my family with two grown up girls.
            He gives us so many problems when drunk and my daughters are very
            depressed. Both of them suffer from severe ulcer because of this. I am
            working in a private company and drawing monthly income of Rs.15000/-
            But with this amount I find it very difficult to maintain my family
            and I have lots of debts because of my daughters education.  I have
            to manage everything sigle handed with such a small income.

            My daughters are now doing their final year and I find very difficult
            to manage it.  I am now not feeling well because of malaria and have
            to take rest at least for a month. But I am not doing so because if I
            take leave there would be loss of pay. Please help me out of this
            critical position.

            Kindly please help me with some amount so that I would be very grateful.

            Regards

            Mary Charles

    4. bangawking000 profile image60
      bangawking000posted 8 years ago

      in the philippines, there are lots of rich people here that help out the poor.

      but the sad truth is.  there are more poor the the rich
      and our government is the number one corrupt in the whole asia.

    5. Beth100 profile image84
      Beth100posted 8 years ago

      Yes, I have seen it.  I have also participated in these acts of kindness.  I believe that humanity is still, basicaly good, and we will help each other when the needs arises.  After all, all living creatures are looking for one basic need:  to be loved.

    6. Susana S profile image93
      Susana Sposted 8 years ago

      In the UK there are rich people (philanthropists) who set up foundations or trusts to help all kinds of socially disadvantaged people whether they be homeless, mentally ill, refugees etc. etc. I'm sure it's the same throughout the world.

      I'm sure not all rich people have a social conscience but many do.

    7. frogdropping profile image86
      frogdroppingposted 8 years ago

      I have a couple of friends that I don't know if they could be considered rich - but they are wealthy.

      And they help others out wherever possible. Usually by way of taking in waifs and strays and expecting no return, other than seeing them back on their feet. No gain in it for them either.

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        jimbolatposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        My name is Jim L. I read your entry.  Are your friends still helping people?
        I became poor because of very bad decisions and a mental illness. I couldn't work.  So the bills are piling up. 

        Please contact me. Thanks  Jim

    8. profile image0
      annvansposted 8 years ago

      If I was rich, I would find a poor person and give them money and pay for their medical care.  I would also buy them a place to live and buy them food and pay their bills.

      1. tksensei profile image61
        tksenseiposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        You want to think so, but the only way to be sure if for you to go out and become rich.

    9. tksensei profile image61
      tksenseiposted 8 years ago

      In any case, one rich person playing Great Expectations for one poor person doesn't do much in the overall scheme of things. The average, middle class person who donates even a little to private organizations that provide goods, services, and/or training to help the poor does so much more.

      Bill Gates is a generous guy, but there's only so many of him...

    10. andromida profile image75
      andromidaposted 8 years ago

      I think only a few of the rich genuinely try to help the poor.The rich people possess  more than 80% wealth of the world.If they really did help the poor the world would be much different and safer than today's world.

    11. profile image0
      annvansposted 8 years ago

      Well if the rich are helping the poor get poorer, I got some news then.....once the poor are too poor to buy anything, the rich will fall through a giant black hole. lol.

      1. Mike Craggs profile image73
        Mike Craggsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Or fall back on overt slavery instead of the covert slavery that currently exists.

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      annvansposted 8 years ago

      As many rich people as there are though, I doubt that the really rich will fail as they will get the other rich people to buy from them now that there are tons of rich people.

      I was just curious about all this cuz I have not witnessed the rich helping the poor even though I am sure it happens.  I figured with the economy being the way it is, the rich would be reaching out to the poor.

      1. DannyMaio profile image55
        DannyMaioposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Many Do, A lot of them are silent. Look at George Steinbrenner, He has done so much for people, In Florida if a fire or policeman get killed he has a fund where the family gets money and guaranteed college for any kid of the fallen hero. He has put many kids through college. Donald trump has helped many also, He does many benefits and gives to charity constantly.

    13. profile image0
      annvansposted 8 years ago

      I hate to see the rich just giving out all kinds of money to people that already have money.  If I was rich, I would make sure who I was helping was actually poor and not just middle class or something.  I have helped many middle class years ago.  I used to give money to people who I knew were single and raising kids and things and I wasn't rich.  I won't do it now though as I have learned my lesson not to help others unless you are rich or you will wind up poor like I seem to be heading now, lol.

      1. ledefensetech profile image68
        ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Duh.  What makes you think the rich won't get poor by doing what you did?  Sure they have more money, but it's not like the rich have a money tree they can peel more bills off of and hand them out as needed.

    14. marinealways24 profile image60
      marinealways24posted 8 years ago

      I also think the poor help the rich more often that the rich help the poor.

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        annvansposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I think you are right.  Fine, let em do whatever they wish, but they may have to learn the hard way like me.

        Me and my family talk about all those poor people in the mountains and people ride by sometimes and throw out food to them.

    15. profile image0
      annvansposted 8 years ago

      You are very right, and what bothers me most is that I think rich help with lots of things and sometimes try to do what they think is right.  They just sometimes wind up helping people who really don't need help instead of helping those who need it the most.  For example when they help with medical research and stuff.  That is fine that they do that but I sure don't hear about em helping the poor, only other things like medical research.

      1. ledefensetech profile image68
        ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        You really need to try to understand why rich people got rich in the first place.  Sure some inherited, but what's wrong with that?  Their parents wanted to leave them with a legacy, and that's their right.  But the people I'm talking about are the ones who make something from nothing.  The Entrepreneurs.  By lumping them in with the rich, you make two big mistakes.  First by working for their money, they deserve it and more importantly, they figured out a way to come from any kind of a background and make it.

        By studying them and what they did, you can learn their secrets and apply them in your own life.  Then when you're successful you'll be able to make a bigger difference than you are now and you won't have to beggar yourself to do it.  If we want a better society we have to encourage entrepreneurs and learn from them.

        Also you ignore that fact that some poor people are poor due to the bad choices they've made.  Giving them things only reinforces that poor decision making process so that they never have an incentive to better themselves.  That's why I'm opposed to public welfare.  Private welfare, due to their limited funds, have to decide who is more deserving of help.  Thus the help tends to go to those who need it and will better themselves, excluding those who think the world owes them a living.

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      annvansposted 8 years ago

      Apparently I don't.  If I was rich, I would give to poor people in the mountains long before I would hand over anything to a hospital.

    17. Aya Katz profile image87
      Aya Katzposted 8 years ago

      How are the terms "rich" and "poor" being defined for the purposes of this discussion?

           Possible answers:

           1) net worth
           2) income level
           3) social class
           4) level of education
           5) Control over capital (whether owned by the individual or not?)
           6) power

      I have the feeling that different discussants here have different definitions and this is leading to misunderstanding.

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        annvansposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Poor meaning income level.  Ones who cannot afford to put food on the table and provide clothes for their children.  Ones that cannot afford medical care for themselves or their children.  Elderly who cannot afford to hardly live on there social security.

        1. ledefensetech profile image68
          ledefensetechposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          You're lumping all that in together.  The first tow are solvable by private charity.  There's a Goodwill and food bank in just about every village, town and city in the nation.  Medical care is a bit thornier.  Part of the reason health care is so expensive is that the supply of medical care is purposely held down, at least in the US.  Finally the elderly.  The entire Social Security setup is a scam.  The people who put it in place wanted access to more tax money, but they didn't want to raise taxes, so they put the Social Security fund in general revenue.  Never rely on the promise of a politician.

    18. profile image0
      annvansposted 8 years ago

      Well I am sure these people do not do this on purpose.  Things happen and people fail.  That is like saying forget the bailouts for anyone who needs them. 

      Suppose I am poor and have no money, yes, let me run down to the goodwill and PAY for some clothes.

    19. apeksha profile image60
      apekshaposted 8 years ago

      sometimes ,if the rich man knows the value of person more than money.those to whom money is not the king.

    20. profile image0
      annvansposted 8 years ago

      K, I don't want to get anything started, I was just wondering...so, sorry.

    21. my-success-guru profile image60
      my-success-guruposted 8 years ago

      Yes the rich help the poor but I think more can be done to help the poor create wealth.

    22. profile image0
      annvansposted 8 years ago

      Maybe I dont see this around here cuz maybe everyone is poor?...lol  I used to live where rich people lived and I never did hear of anyone helping the poor is why I asked.   

      I do however think now would be a good time for someone rich to find some really poor people and help them.  I think it is nice to see these things.

    23. Tyson Ellis profile image48
      Tyson Ellisposted 8 years ago

      I agree with ledefensetech... as taxes rise it's harder to want to help. People don't like to be compelled to do things, they prefer to do them on their own accord.

    24. Lisa HW profile image81
      Lisa HWposted 8 years ago

      Wealthy people are like low-income people in that they aren't "all one big club that thinks/does the same thing".  Some, more than others, make it a point to try to donate money that will do the most people the most good.  When "the world" knows someone is wealthy these people have people writing to them and asking for money.  There are a lot of "have nots" in the world, and if they give to everyone who lost a job and everyone else who is struggling they'd have no money left to donate to anyone.  A lot of people do stuff for others but don't want it public (because then "the whole world" will think they can do it for them too.  Many wealthy celebrities have given away their money as soon as they earn it (buying homes for their family members and whatever else), only to find themselves dead broke.

      There's a point where even the most charitable people have to draw the line; because if they keep giving and giving until they have no money left themselves, they won't be donating large amounts to different causes; and they won't be in a position to be hiring people (creating jobs) in their endeavors.  This doesn't cover everything she has donated, but the following article points out that besides starting that school in Africa, Oprah paid for a bunch of Katrina victims' new homes. 

      http://www.time.com/time/magazine/artic … 26,00.html

      It stinks that some people struggle, and there are a lot of things that need to be done to alleviate that problem.  Welfare programs, themselves, trap people in poverty; laws allow banks to operate in a way that makes people's situations worse.  What Oprah Winfrey does with her money, though, is not my business.  If I were in a big financial emergency I wouldn't want Oprah's (or any other citizen's) money to bail me out, any more than I'd want welfare money.  Besides, again, nobody knows what any individual wealthy person does or doesn't do with his/her money.  Assuming that the Gates are "the exception" is unfair, because I don't believe they are an exception.  They're just well publicized because of the level of their wealth.  Are there greedy, wealthy, jerks who don't care about others?  Sure - but there are also greedy, poor, jerks who aren't above stealing from others too. 

      I'm not a religious person, but one of the Commandments comes to mind:  "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods (money)."  I don't think "coverting thy neighbor's goods" is ever the solution to poverty and struggles.

    25. The Jet profile image81
      The Jetposted 6 years ago

      I think it varies tremendously. But I would, if I were rich.

    26. sn53Anon profile image61
      sn53Anonposted 6 years ago

      Every rich person I know help either the middle class or the poor. Where do you think jobs come from? And what better help is there than a job?

      1. John Holden profile image59
        John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        So there are no working poor then!

        1. Druid Dude profile image59
          Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          But, since you probably aren't privy to the financial proclivities of anyone besides yourself (unless you are an accountant or IRS agent) then what you are saying is merely an opinion that "Rich people help the middle class or poor" Totally unsubstantiated. The rich have helped by virtually eliminating the middle class, themselves. Automation , has, over the last fifty years, pushed millions of workers out of given fields, forcing them to adapt, only to be pushed out by more automation, trade agreements that have taken whole industries out of the American equation and shipped overseas. Rich people help, but they have also done irreparable damage to the very system that made them rich. The battle over healthcare...the conservative view is that healthcare is unaffordable, the dems view for the most part, is that we need it to have a healthy workforce. This is a hot button issue, and underscores what is being said here. There are rich people who are also dems. They don't necessarily contribute to charitable causes, as ther are rich repubs, I'm sure, who do.

          1. sn53Anon profile image61
            sn53Anonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Hi Druid,

            You wrote, "But, since you probably aren't privy to the financial proclivities of anyone besides yourself (unless you are an accountant or IRS agent) then what you are saying is merely an opinion that "Rich people help the middle class or poor" Totally unsubstantiated."

            In your opinion, outside of the government jobs, where do jobs come from?


            "The rich have helped by virtually eliminating the middle class,"

            This is Marxist, class warfare drivel. Nothing more. Nothing less.

            ". . .only to be pushed out by more automation, trade agreements that have taken whole industries out of the American equation and shipped overseas."

            In your opinion what role have unions and government rules played in pushing industries into countries who want them more then we do?

            "The battle over healthcare...the conservative view is that healthcare is unaffordable, the dems view for the most part, is that we need it to have a healthy workforce."

            In my opinion you have misstated the debate. Conservatives believe that getting the government out of healthcare, including tort reform, and the elimination of regulations that restrict competition, is the only sure path to affordable health care for the greatest number of people. We also believe that each individual should be able to buy the quality of healthcare they can afford. Democrats believe that taking control of 1/6th of he economy, will guarantee they will stay in power for the rest of the nation's life.

            1. John Holden profile image59
              John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              How come the UK government can provide universal health care for about half the amount that the US spends on a very un-universal health care?

            2. Druid Dude profile image59
              Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Some people can't afford any...let'em die. it'll make room for the rest of us? Marxist drivel? I don't care for the unions either, but, it was the fact that millions of american workers BEFORE the unions were subjected to long hours, no breaks no benefits, pennies aday, and child labor that was appalling. WHY? Because the employers were greedy. That is what brought the unions in in the first place. Those who have weren't giving back, and for your info, the middle class is nearly gone, and what is left is a shadow of what there was. We have brought all these problems upon ourselves, and it's not a Gop problem, it's not a dem problem, it's an american problem. Partisan politics only serves to divide, and, just as in the military, we should determine that no citizen is left behind.

              1. sn53Anon profile image61
                sn53Anonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Hi Druid,

                You wrote, "Some people can't afford any...let'em die."

                Well, some people cannot afford homes, cars, Starbucks coffee... And yet everyone manages to get what they can afford. It may require making the hard choice between that 72" LCD HD television and health care. It may mean deciding between any of a variety of competing demands. But that is what adults do.

                Additionally, when the government gets out of it many will get in. And everyone will be far better served.

                "Marxist drivel?

                Yes. Pure class warfare. Poor against rich. It is what it is. Like it or not you are a class warrior for Karl Marx's distorted, incorrect view of the world. You may be a useful idiot (I believe Lenin's phrase) or you may be a real class warrior. Either way you are on the wrong side of history.

                "I don't care for the unions either, but, it was the fact that millions of american workers BEFORE the unions were subjected to long hours, no breaks no benefits, pennies aday, and child labor that was appalling."

                I understand there are some interesting myths out there. This is one of them.

                "WHY? Because the employers were greedy."

                What does this mean to you? How do you determine that employers are greedy? Who were the employers then? Who are they now? If you own any mutual funds you are probably an employer.

                ". . .and for your info, the middle class is nearly gone, and what is left is a shadow of what there was."

                Really? So in your world view all of us are either rich or poor? As I drive through many square miles of middle class houses on my way to my mansion on the hill, who, in your opinion, is living in all of those very nice houses? They are not nice enough to be housing for the rich. Well, some of them are. And they are way too nice to be housing for the poor. So who lives in them?

          2. John Holden profile image59
            John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I'm not sure why you've addressed this post to me. I did think our thinking was more aligned than that.

        2. sn53Anon profile image61
          sn53Anonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Hi John,

          That goes back to the issue of how much one is paid versus how much one's work is worth. The working poor are not of much value to their employers. For anyone to get paid more they must increase their value to their employer. It is so simple.

          1. John Holden profile image59
            John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            So naive.

            Hey, going back to my factory days, there was an incentive scheme in place that paid a few pounds out for innovations and improvement.
            One day one guy with responsibility for assembling one component came up with an improvement that would reduce the number of parts and speed up assembly.
            The head honchos dropped on him and spent ages with their slide rules looking at what he'd suggested.
            In the end they pronounced it good and in future to be carried out.
            The worker in question then asked what it was worth to the company.
            He was told that as it made his job easier he should be thankful that they weren't going to cut his pay.

            And that, my friend, is a much more common scenario than the pay rises handed out for problem solving.

          2. Druid Dude profile image59
            Druid Dudeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Most employers make money on the fact that you aren't getting paid for what your work is worth. They are looking for a bargain, something they can get on the cheap. It is to their advantage to pay you less than your worth. That is where the concept of exploitation comes in. Sound familar?

            1. John Holden profile image59
              John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Indeed, if employers paid what employees were worth there'd be no profit left for the employers.

              1. sn53Anon profile image61
                sn53Anonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                Hi John,

                You are so funny when you want to be. Employers hire people so that they can earn a profit. If the employee is not helping to achieve that goal the employee is not worth very much.

                1. John Holden profile image59
                  John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Glory be! We've got there at last.

                  Employers don't employ people out of kindness, they employ them to make a profit.

                  1. sn53Anon profile image61
                    sn53Anonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    Hi John,

                    You wrote,  "Glory be! We've got there at last. Employers don't employ people out of kindness, they employ them to make a profit."

                    You sound as if this comes as some great surprise. Why did you think employers hire people?

                    1. John Holden profile image59
                      John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                      Hang on, it was you arguing as if employers were doing the workers a great favour by letting them work  as if there was nothing in it for them!
                      All this talk about paying what they are worth exposed as flim flam, they pay what they can make a profit on.

            2. sn53Anon profile image61
              sn53Anonposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              Hi Druid,

              You wrote, "Most employers make money on the fact that you aren't getting paid for what your work is worth."

              If that is your experience you need to get a better job. Over time your income settles right about at what you are worth to your employer.

              "They are looking for a bargain, something they can get on the cheap."

              Employers who do this will always lose their best people to employers who pay what the employee is worth. It costs a lot to hire someone. No one wants to hire twice.

              "It is to their advantage to pay you less than your worth. That is where the concept of exploitation comes in. Sound familiar?"

              Yes. Right out of Karl Marx's discredited economic theories.

    27. tony0724 profile image60
      tony0724posted 6 years ago

      What cracks me up about all of you who damn the rich is you would trade places with them in a New York Minute. All of you are liars and hypocrites.

      1. John Holden profile image59
        John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Sorry but I wouldn't swop.
        I've been rich and I've been poor and I'm at my happiest when I have enough but no more.

        1. tony0724 profile image60
          tony0724posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          John I have no doubt you just lied.

          1. John Holden profile image59
            John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            You'd be wrong.

            1. tony0724 profile image60
              tony0724posted 6 years agoin reply to this

              And you are obviously incapable of being honest with yourself. Have you risen above human nature John ?

              1. John Holden profile image59
                John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                On the contrary, only when I became honest with myself did I really learn the value of money, it's a great tool but a lousy master.

    28. celebritie profile image79
      celebritieposted 6 years ago

      The rich help the poor at the end of the year when they donate millions to charity organizations.

      1. bobbybaan profile image58
        bobbybaanposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        You know it is sweet to here that the rich do donate to charity and most likely the charities are in bigger city but you know I’m one of the poor speaking and I don’t know of any charity or organizations in our small town that will help single families

        1. KK Trainor profile image59
          KK Trainorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Well you obviously have internet, so why not do some research if you need help? I don't know where you live, but if it's in America you can undoubtedly find someone or some organization to help you and your family. Search for charities in your area and see what they can do for you. It's up to you, not them, to get the help you need. And if you don't ask, you can't really blame anyone but yourself for not getting the help you need. I hope you find what you need.

          1. carlsandy222 profile image57
            carlsandy222posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            I recieved an email that you replied to my hub writting. I live at 2213 Washington Ave Granite City IL 62040. I have a PO BOX 1242 Granite City IL 62040 for mail. Me and my husband are disabled and praying we don't loose our home. Thank You for your replie. Sandy Kukarola

    29. BillyDRitchie profile image62
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago

      The question assumes the rich have a responsibility to help the poor.  They do not.  If they want to, it is their business.  If they choose not to, that again is their business.

      I would be far less likely to just hand out money.  Rather I would choose to offer these people a job.  You always feel better about the money you have if you work for it and earn it.

    30. feenix profile image59
      feenixposted 6 years ago

      "Do the rich help the poor"?

      Yes, all the time.

      1. bobbybaan profile image58
        bobbybaanposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I would have to see it happen my wife and I are on the poor list maybe they just help the people in the big cities

    31. Sneha Sunny profile image84
      Sneha Sunnyposted 6 years ago

      I think, not always. It depend how the person feels. I mean if he really thinks and really wants to help then he will definitely help but if he doesn't cares then he will not. Everybody is not the same with same feelings and thinking.

    32. Evan G Rogers profile image79
      Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago

      The question: Do the rich help the poor?

      The answer: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!

      OF COURSE THEY DO!!

      Look around, how many things in your room are made possible by rich people:

      Every single thing in your home that was made by a large company was brought to you thanks to some rich person's ability to maneuver resources properly!!!

      Did you go to a chain store recently? That was a rich person as well!!

      Q: Who helped more people -- Mother Theresa or Henry Ford?
      A: Obviously Henry Ford.

      1. KK Trainor profile image59
        KK Trainorposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Wow, nicely put. You might offend some of those who hate the rich, but facts speak louder than feelings. Good job.

      2. Moderndayslave profile image60
        Moderndayslaveposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        You make it sound like there was nothing in it for them?

        1. HattieMattieMae profile image65
          HattieMattieMaeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Well most of the people in my area do make generous donations to non-profit organizations at fundraisers. Without those donations most non-profits do not survive. They are run by exactly that rich people or grants. Grants are being cut, and so this leaves the rich. I would say I've seen lots of wealthy people in my area do a lot of good. Just depends on the rich person, and whether they want to help out a community or not.

        2. Evan G Rogers profile image79
          Evan G Rogersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          THE QUESTION WAS "DO THEY HELP", NOT "ARE THEY GREEDY!!"

          bwahahahha, I love being right.

          (psst, by being greedy, they helped the poor! Ta-da!)

      3. HattieMattieMae profile image65
        HattieMattieMaeposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Think you can say henry ford helped out in some good ways, as well as mother theresa. How many people did Henry Ford pick up off the street that were diseased, had maggots, and lonely. The untouchables? Would you help those people even if you have lots of money. Who was richer financially probably Henry Ford, who was richer in love and helping others Mother Theresa. Is it better to be rich financially, or richer in your heart full of love.

        1. Evan G Rogers profile image79
          Evan G Rogersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Oh, don't get me wrong, I love Theresa. But Ford helped many many many more people.

    33. Stacie L profile image88
      Stacie Lposted 6 years ago

      sure they do
      if they get a tax write-off...

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image79
        Evan G Rogersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Your life is much better thanks to rich people, you're just too ingrateful to notice.

        Cars - Henry Ford.
        Oil and fossil fuels - Rockefeller
        Astonishing infrastructure needs - countless rich people
        Computers - Gates and Jobs
        and the list goes on.

        1. John Holden profile image59
          John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          But what about the countless not rich people who really made all these things happen?

          1. Evan G Rogers profile image79
            Evan G Rogersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            They were given jobs in the time between "generating the resources to build the service/good" and "actually selling the good/service".

            Another benefit from the rich to the poor!

            1. John Holden profile image59
              John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              It doesn't actually happen like that.

              1. Evan G Rogers profile image79
                Evan G Rogersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                That's strange, cuz it sure as hell looks like it!

                1. John Holden profile image59
                  John Holdenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  Sleight of hand. Smoke and mirrors.
                  It's all done with somebody else's money.

    34. profile image0
      Amie Warrenposted 6 years ago

      My ex is very rich, and I never once saw him lift a hand to help anyone poor, except to pay them to landscape his yard or wash his car or clean his house. After Katrina, he was so afraid someone would steal his stuff that he spent thousands of dollars to hire private security to watch our house night and day.

      But on the flip side, my best friend is also very rich, and she gave me a free place to stay for two years, and works every week at a soup kitchen, so it varies, I guess.

      1. Evan G Rogers profile image79
        Evan G Rogersposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        How'd your ex get rich? By doing work that helped people? Or by mooching off his parents?

        1. bgamall profile image83
          bgamallposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Hi Evan, would you please look at the chart I have put up for you here: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/79988

          Please comment if you get a chance and I want to know if you understand the chart.

          BTW, sometimes people just have to mooch off parents. smile

    35. nat2yawson profile image59
      nat2yawsonposted 6 years ago

      most of the rich give out the fish but don't teach how to fish.

     
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