Isn't Catholic a Christian belief? Kennedy was our first Catholic president and as far as I know all of our presidents were of Christian belief. I don't believe we have ever had an atheist. But the on;y one I know of that might have been anything different is Obama, who some believe to be of Muslim faith.
Hi Greg, Kennedy actually had compassion and he thought outside of the box as a President. Obama allowed an abomination as part of the law with same sex marriage, he obviously is not a real Christian. Kennedy wins over Obama in my mind.
So, that ugly and non-sensiclal Christian claim that sexuality is anything but a private matter between two individuals raises its voice once again. Such a "God," would have no interest in your fun, only your loving commitments.
Christian view: God's chosen few (not God, himself) give a choice by pointing a gun at your head & insist U choose to believe dogma or go to hell &/or they will make your FREE spirited life miserable!! Jesus' original message is distorted.
A8, Yeah, Kennedy was a real Christian. Sure he was. That's why he was committing adultery with one woman after another. If U want to know what a real Christian is study the life of Jesus ,or John The Baptist.
Tamara, this is not accurate. The example I gave is the perfect case on point. Lincoln did not belong to a congregation much less a denomination. Teddy Roosevelt is cool to look into also. Episcopal or Reformed - not a member, just attendee.
If a man cometh and read that which is the teaching of Christ. The man is changed and cannot go back to hate. Does that make them a Christian? The One Eye God is now a real movement. It incorporates Christ.
Eric u r TWISTED! NO! NOTHING makes one a Christian but OBEYING HIS COMMANDMENTS (I Jn2:3-5) & MOST won't take time to find out yet want something for nothing! You're like those "riding the govt system" for assistance! "Christ Incorp?" ONE SPIRIT
Actually, Eric is very correct: 'one eye' is one of many valued mystical Christian symbols - btw, Freemasons are very much 'Christians' - or at least, they pretend it is 4 appearance sake. LOTS of OLD C-men (including politicians) were FM's.
Are you kidding? EVERY President of the United States has been some manner of Christian. There has never been a President who ascribed to any other religion, nor has there been any President who was an avowed atheist.
Not accurate. That eye god stuff is not whacko. Deistic Rationalists were the ilk of the foundational days. The hard set dogma of churches of the day turned men away. As today. Christ in the formation was background. Washington never "accepted" Chris
Sorry but I do not start or end with Wicki. My God are there still people out there that cite it? Wow I am blown away. ignorance always astounds me. Lisa with a man picture. Please do not cheapen discussion.
I gather Lisa with a man's face that you consider speaking the truth a brutal attack. Someone cites wicki as the source and they throw mud in a thinker's face. Nothing about who. The comment must be shown for the failures it commits. Are you a victim
Eric, you have really changed. It is the thing I hold against Trump the most: changing some of the coolest, most insightful & understanding people into ugly brats. C's or not, most GOP folks won't vote 4 pres unless they BELIEVE they R Christian.
Eric you "confessed your sin one to another"(Jm5:16) which is more than other "proclaimed" Christians have done on HP by stating "My apologies. There was no need for me to be unpleasant. It is inappropriate..." Ur action is according to WORD.
I don't know a great deal about past US presidents but I do remember George W Bush being pretty vocal about his faith. Plus didn't the Evangelists love him? I'm thinking of that Jesus Camp documentary. *shudders*
"Vocal about one's faith"(Jer20:9)? U don't know JESUS! "Motives?" IF of GOD, "motives" r HIS PROMISES (aka "benefits") which "leads & guides(Jn14:26) into ALL truth!" MOST thk Christians want "fire ins!" NO! We want "BEAUTY" in THIS LIFE(Is61)!
The Episcopalian George Washington was technically our first Christian president. But none of the early ones were very devout believers. They were more agnostic. Belonging to a church was just what one did back then as apart of a communal duty. Our first enthusiastically-Christian president was probably Rutherford B Hayes in 1877. President William McKinley was a very pious Christian who, after a long conference with God, decided to keep US troops in the Philippines after 1898. But the born-again George W Bush was most certainly our most devoutly Christian president. I doubt if President Trump has ever been to church.
Can you imagine a US President like Thomas Jefferson today? Deists are almost as abhorred as Atheists. When science started threatening C's literal interpretations, that's when dogmas became alternative facts.
Trump is not a Christian, George Washington was not a Christian, nor was Thomas Jefferson. The historical record indicates that none of the Presidents were Christians. A Christian is defined as someone who follows the teachings of Jesus. That would exclude slave-owners, racists, and war mongers, as well as womanizers and pedophiles. And the three presidents I have mentioned are collectively guilty of all of the above.
Anyone one can say they are a Christian, but that doesn't make it so. I have never flown a jet airplane, but I can say I am an airline pilot:
" I am an airline pilot. Would you like to book your entire family on one of my flights around the world?"
Not correct that someone who is a whopping 'sinner' means they R not a Christian. Many practicing & devoted Christians R some of the biggest sinners. Y? Law of Attraction: attention to resisting temptation attracts it & makes things a LOT har
No one sleeps with the devil unless they believe it exists & want to. Peeps like U & Norine LIKE the drama created by evil, so you embrace & encourage it. Your Father will not judge you for learning life, cuz sin is just a tool he uses to
From whence evil springs is irrelevant here. A war monger may not believe in the devil, but the body count does not speak of goodness. A crooked path is not compatible with Christian teaching. Murder is not necessary to "learn life".
WB have you ever heard of "Thomas the Doubter", Peter the denier" and "Saul the Murderer". I would say very crooked paths indeed. Trumps could not possibly be a worse path than Sauls. To my understanding even the Centurion and Judas I were accepted.
So that begs the question Ronnie, you seem to be out slaying folks. So I imagine you are at a stage like Saul. And of course you judge others. Of course you have to condemn them like Saul and not love them like Paul. Ronnie you make a perfect case fo
Oh sure guy. Attacking another on a moral principal that is akin to a leader. Cutting them down for the acts of their ancestors. Making blame on others of optimum importance. And of course winning on a hypothetical (Don Q.) scenario.
That's our Norine... Unfortunately, once she embeds herself into a question like this, she's difficult to shake & it just gets dropped cuz no one wants to interact with her shrill BS. She's ruined so many good questions & can't be reasoned wi
I guess that depends on what you class as "Christian" - what I can tell you is that Donald Trump is a Freemason. Many would argue that masonry and Christianity are not compatible. I won't go into detail.
NO ONE can "class" (aka "judge") another! ONLY the WORD of GOD (Jn 7:24) which saints use to "correct" (IITim3:16) TWISTED belief! And man it "cuts" (Heb4:12) when one is TWISTED! U can tell whose TWISTED on HP via their actions (DELETIONS)!
Clearly, I meant it depends on what you think a Christian is. How is that judging/classing someone? Is calling people on HP "TWISTED" not classing/judging someone then? Um, pot... kettle... and what a load of religious twaddle. It's no wonder so man
Norine is one of the biggest judgmental hypocrits on HP, LoL! And, she's always complaining about being deleted. I keep telling you, sweetie: your spiritual fruits are ROTTEN that's why peeps don't listen to U. Do something about it.
And very fortunately for the REST of us, our Miss Scripture ranter, finger-pointer, vicious, brain-washed fanatic, has been deleted for good!..as in permanently banned. Ahhhm Peace at last. Hallelujah!
Franklin Graham endorsed him, for one thing - making it okay for many Christians who were struggling with their conscious to vote for him. Plus, Trump has said all the right things in all the ways they like to hear. If he tells us he is a C, then he
I'm pretty sure Franklin considers himself to be a Christian - and in fact, a Christian LEADER, which is why his big mouth made such an impact on people of that faith. It doesn't matter what GOD thinks - sheeple follow people.
Norine, how on earth can words spoken tobthe tribes of Shechem be afpplicable, even out of context, to people 3000 years later, in difference circumstances/culture? Cherry-picking to suit your prejudice.
This is a very easy question to answer. I am not a Christian myself, I can only assume you are not either, as you have to ask this question. This very question is one of the reasons that most of the world is laughing, as well as being terrified of what is happening in the United States at the moment.
Let's quote a bit of Christian scripture and see how Trump stacks up against it:
1 Timothy 6:10King James Version (KJV)
10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
Now, how do you think Trump stacks up against that passage with his obsession for big figures, massive figures?
Am I really lecturing a Christian on Christianity? Really, if Jesus were alive today, I am sure he would cut out his heart were he to see who is using his name to further their own ends.
Interesting. Christ would cut his heart out? Sounds like you are coming from a hate Trump and then rationalize position. I understand your angst. Sounds kind of like you might have an anti Trumps agenda your are furthering. Maybe not, just a thought.
This is an empty question that wil not produce a definitive answer. That is because most people who calls themselves Christian have a set of beliefs to which they stick rigidly, and anyone who does not follow the same set of beliefs cannot therefore be a Christian.
That would be fine if the set of beliefs was restricted to generalised basic dictums, but this is rarely the case. Too often you find "Christians" who condemn anyone who does not belong to their particular sect as not being Christian at all. It is therefore no surprise to find people who would say that there has never been a Christian president.
On the other hand there have been plenty of left-handed ones! Make of that what you will!
Christianity & Salvation are relative to each according to their own set of spiritual beliefs or lack of them. Believing that U R the only 1 who has interpreted a 'word of god' correctly is like insisting there is only 1 kind of apple.
I don't think Norine or others like her are dumb - they have a debilitating fear of death. Reason, Logic & Science fly out the window when you are convinced they are sins against God. That is sad beyond the telling of it & I do feel for her.
Better find a good book on the biographies of American Presidents. Start with President Jimmy Carter who has taught his Sunday School Class for years and who has spoken about his Christian faith often.
Donald Trump is not a Christian - not even close. I have no idea why some seem to think that he is.
Here are some Christian pastors who say he is NOT a Christian. Remember that you shall know them by their fruits.
QUOTE: My concern is not whether Trump really is a Christian, though I admit I have serious doubts. Rather, my concern is whether his stated views and beliefs line up with Christian thought. And it is clear that many of them do not.
QUOTE: As an evangelical and member of the Global Advisory Board of Christian Post's parent company, I was heartbroken to read CP's recent editorial telling evangelicals that we have a moral obligation to vote and must vote for either Donald Trump or a protest candidate. What we cannot do is to cast our vote for Donald Trump. The harm to the Christian witness if we support this man who embodies everything Christ warned Christians against in the Sermon on the Mount would last generations.
QUOTE: Trump himself has not spoken about a born-again experience or a new personal relationship with Christ. ...Popular Christian author and blogger Rachel Held Evans put it bluntly in a tweet: “Oh give me a break. Donald Trump hasn’t been born again. The Religious Right has simply sold out.”
QUOTE: He said he does not ask for forgiveness and "does not bring God into that picture" when he makes mistakes. ,, Trump's broad language often serves a purpose, says Michael D'Antonio, author of "The Truth About Trump," a biography. "Donald keeps his options open. He make things mysterious and unclear so that he can say anything else at another time."
QUOTE: Indeed, there is hardly any person in America today who has more exemplified the “earthly nature”that Paul urges the Colossians to shed: “sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires, and greed, which is idolatry” (3:5). This is an apt summary of Trump’s life to date.
Franklin Graham convinced C's otherwise, "it's refreshing to have a leader willing to defend the C faith." FG wants Trump to repeal amendment saying he shouldnt endorse politicians cuz C's can't think 4 themselves.
Are you saying he is Christian because: 1) he goes to church? 2) Christian leaders endorsed him? 3) he attended a couple of prayer meetings so that Christians would support him? 4) he lives in a country that is traditionally classed as Christian 5) he personally believes in Jesus and follows the teachings of the Bible with Jesus as his Lord, endeavouring to line up his own personal life with the teachings of the Bible (i.e.: actually living Christianity) 6) other
Just because a person goes to McDonald's, it does not make them a beef burger.
Is he Christian by name or actually by belief? There is a huge difference.
Did he follow Christian beliefs long before he ran for president, or did he conveniently start to follow them to look Christian while he was running for President so that all the Christian sides would follow him?
If there is one thing that is sure about this president is that he does not embrace any of the Christian values. Respect All People Love Your Neighbor as Yourself Be Humble Be Honest Live a Moral Life Practice what you Preach; Don't be a Hypocrite Don't Be Self-righteous Don't Hold a Grudge (no place for hatred, revenge, retaliation or getting even) Forgive Others Nope, not this president....
Do I have this right? Are you so perfect in all things that you have no "plank in your own eye" to get rid of first? A checklist to determine faith? The hypocrite one and the self righteous one, perhaps your answer?
How would you know their fruit if you have a plank in your eye that prevents you from really seeing them? For instance your fruit of hating Trump may be the plank in your eye preventing clarity and unbiased appraisal.
Nice Eric. : ) His administration scares the hack out of me. I don't trust them. We should always check on politicians no matter their ideology. But this administration is particularly fishy and shows a very scary agenda.
Eric, U seek to use biblical teaching to justify evil. Recognizing a rose is a rose, or a spade a spade has nothing to do with being judgmental. It's simply a matter of observation. Evil defines itself.
Robie you are so right. I grew up understanding that it was a civic duty, more than a right but an obligation to watchdog our government. Should we trust and verify or verify then trust? But I think Christian or not is up to God. I do not need to ve
This president is NOT Christian. He has lullaby-ed the average Christian to sleep. Not once have I ever heard him mention the name above ALL names, Jesus Christ. Also, to be a Christian, you must confess your sins to God in the name of Christ, and Trump says "I don't do that, I just don't." Where is the proof he is a Christian? Where are his fruits??
I wouldn't know whether he is a Christian or not, if being a Christian is predicated on accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. If the question is, does Donald Trump exemplify traditional Christian behavior...the answer is would be that he is not. I'm not judging...just using that standard (you know...10 commandments...love your neighbor as yourself...etc). If that is the standard, Donald Trump fails in front of us every in most ways. For me, being A Christian is whole lot different than behaving in a Christian manner.
In the first place, IT DOES NOT FREAKING MATTER!! IT IS NONE OF ANYONE'S BUSINESS! But to elaborate further: According to the teachings in the christian bible, Drumpf in no way measures up to that standard. As a former believer, with some inside knowledge, I can say this with full confidence.
However, whether he is or is not is irrelevant. Our Constitution most clearly states, in Article Six:
"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
Our separation of church and state clause is also part of the first amendment of our Constitution.
Those articles in and of and by themselves therefore make null and void and irrelevant this entire question.
The question should not be about his religious views, but about his actions as a human being; and IMO, in that test, he fails miserably.
Not required by the constitution and of interest are not exclusive. A person's spiritual life hopefully is relevant to their decisions. Also it is interesting to note if he is like the vast majority of us identifying as Christian. Your decisions are
Many of the Founding Fathers did not consider themselves to be Christian.
George Washington (who by the way was not in fact the first president) followed a belief system called Pantheism, which is the belief that nature itself is God. Washington could also be considered a Christian Deist as could Abigail Adams, Alexander Hamilton and John Hancock.
Many Founding Fathers were Non-Christian Deists. For example: Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Paine, James Monroe and James Madison.
Non-Christian Deists are people that don't follow the bible/Church edicts but believe that there must be a God because how else do you explain everything's existence if not for a higher power?
And John Adams was a Unitarian, an offshoot of Christianity that believes that while Jesus was a great man he was not a messiah or the son of God
I have never heard him call himself a Christian. From what I see he says and does whatever it takes to try and please who ever he is talking to at the time. I don't judge others. Looking at his passed I don't a Christian man, if I go by how he has lived his life so far. Though I do not know how far he may have come or if his love of God has made a difference in his life. If he does consider himself a Christian then he should be behaving in a way that displays those changes. I answered the question because you asked. We are all imperfect and fall short, but there are some guidelines for us to follow once we proclaim to be Christian, he does not display a life according to Christ from what I have seen.
I don't know what is in Donald Trump's heart. Nobody does. I do believe he is not someone who is overly influenced by his possible belief in the Bible or any one religion. He is a business man. When he tries to speak on issues of religion, his lack of knowledge is obvious. I do believe, at the very least, he has a deep respect for Christians as well as Jews.
Donald Trump never seemed to be much of a religious person at all, Christian or otherwise. He has lived his life in a totally immoral fashion, cheating on his wives and using shady business practices. I don't see anything Christian about him. It just seems like the Religious Right like him because he's doing what they want, and ignore who he truly is as far as moral character.
There have been many Christian Presidents. Jimmy Carter certainly was one and has actually tried to live like a Christian,
Hey John, I know my shady past pretty well because I ran for some public type deals where they vet you. Oh and try becoming a youth minister these days - those guys dug into everything. Perhaps, just maybe yours is.... making it strange to judge.
Donald Trump is not the only Christian President.There were many in the lights of John F.Kennedy, Bill Clinton, George Washington Bush.The belief among the mass of him being the lonely Christian believer is just because of the fact of his strong anti Islamic ideology.In cases, it is a proven fact by the Islamic terrorism all across the globe.No other religion is ever involved in such anti social and anti humanity activities. Trump strongly objecting and acting on the ground by banning the religion in it's country and entering such dubious people on its soil for the greater good of United States of Amarica.This has led the the countrymen believe that he is with the country and Christianity.
American have to confront the situation they have made for themself. They do not have sense to Elect right people. It seems there is civil war about to Re-start in america among people there. Donald trump did all things(Making absurd statements in speech) for alluring christian's vote. He did what people wanted to listen and see.
Hi Amit, I agree. Trump allured votes from different status of people, by telling them what they want to hear. Now he's doing the exact opposite. That seems to be the same personality of the individuals on his reality show "Celebrity Apprentice."
Are you so blinded by hate? The most blinded liberal areas of CNN agree he is doing exactly what he said he would. Do not let ugly change your integrity anyone. We do not or we do like him, it does not change his 40 days of doing exactly as promised.
People still like Trump, but he's giving too much for the LGBTQ folks. When there's way more serious issues Americans need for BIG change. Make America great . . . by following God's commandments. Homosexuality is against the law of God.
No many of our presidents have been Christians. This country was founded on christian values. Christianity is accepting Jesus as your savior. It can not be measured by good or bad actions you do in this life. It means you accept that Jesus was sent to die for our sins and was raised from the dead and that you follow his word. It does not mean that we are perfect or think we are, it means we know we are not perfect and that we have faith in the only one that ever was perfect.
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