What are the Great Things President Joe Biden Has Done While President

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  1. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
    Kathleen Cochranposted 11 months ago

    Annegray: You are fighting the good fight. Hang in there as long as you can. Many of us are just too tired to put up the fight any more.

  2. IslandBites profile image90
    IslandBitesposted 10 months ago

    US economy blows past expectations: Three quick takeaways

    Gross domestic production (GDP) came in hot in the second quarter, growing at a 2.4 percent rate that marked the fourth straight quarter of positive growth and underlining the resilience of the U.S. economy. 

    Economists polled by Bloomberg had been expecting GDP growth of around 1.8 percent, meaning the 2.4 percent growth was a pleasant surprise — especially with other recent data indicating slowing inflation.

    The numbers from the Commerce Department are the latest sign of strength in the U.S. economy and come a day after the Federal Reserve reversed its March prediction of a “mild recession” to hit later this year.

    Here are three takeaways on the numbers.

    Core inflation falls again

    Inflation has been tumbling as the Fed has been raising interest rates, and Thursday’s figures show this trend continuing.

    The personal consumption expenditures (PCE) price index advanced 2.6 percent in the second quarter, down from 4.1 percent in the first.

    Workers are getting more productive

    Even as the Fed has raised interest rates to try to take the wind out of a growing labor market to tame inflation, the latest numbers imply that workers are actually getting more productive.

    Investment is picking up

    Strong GDP is being bolstered by a boom in factory construction and investment stemming from huge pieces of subsidy- and tax-credit heavy legislation passed during the first half of the Biden administration, including the Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPS Act, and the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/4122704-us … takeaways/

  3. profile image56
    KrisJahnsposted 10 months ago

    Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell said on Wednesday the central bank's staff no longer forecasts a U.S. recession.

  4. profile image56
    KrisJahnsposted 10 months ago

    Statistics Show Lowest Southwest Border Encounters Since February 2021.
    statistics for June 2023, which show a significant and continuing decline in migrant encounters along the Southwest border as well as successful drug interdiction efforts resulting from new enforcement initiatives. CBP’s total encounters along the Southwest border in June were the lowest in over two years, dropping nearly a third from May.

    “Our sustained efforts to enforce consequences under our longstanding Title 8 authorities, combined with expanding access to lawful pathways and processes, have driven the number of migrant encounters along the Southwest border to their lowest levels in more than two years. We will remain vigilant,” said Troy A. Miller, CBP Senior Official Performing the Duties of the Commissioner.

    https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-m … hly-update

  5. profile image56
    KrisJahnsposted 10 months ago

    This is wonderful. Long overdue and desperately needed.

    "President Biden announces new landmark rule to strengthen mental and physical health parity requirements and improve mental health care access for more than 150 million Americans"

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo … ance%20use

    1. Credence2 profile image78
      Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

      So, it appears that "the Biden Bash" is no longer the latest smash....

      1. profile image56
        KrisJahnsposted 10 months agoin reply to this

        Absolutely.  This man is getting things done for the country after coming out of the chaos of the pandemic.

        One more piece of good news,

        Morgan Stanley credits Bidenomics for 'much stronger' than expected GDP growth.
        Biden's Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act is "driving a boom in large-scale infrastructure," wrote Ellen Zentner, chief U.S. economist for Morgan Stanley, in a research note released Thursday. In addition to infrastructure, "manufacturing construction has shown broad strength"

        https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/21/bidenom … anley.html

        But there's always weaponization committees for those who aren't interested in this kind of stuff.

        1. Credence2 profile image78
          Credence2posted 10 months agoin reply to this

          So, not bad for a "demented old fool", huh?

  6. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    The Markets recognize a good economy when they see one even though it may not reflect in Biden's poll numbers.

    Stocks blasted higher in afternoon trading Friday, even after Federal Reserve Chair Powell warned in comments in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, that central bank officials were "prepared to raise rates further."

    Traders appeared to shake off fears of future rate hikes, and instead focused on the positive parts of Powell's speech where he applauded strong economic growth.

    "The market may have been comforted by Powell acknowledging that recent inflationary data has been encouraging and thus, interest rates are unlikely to move much higher from here," said Brian Price, head of investment management for Commonwealth Financial Network.

    1. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Yep!  The Dow was up 247 today!  A great day...that would be better if it wasn't still down 200 for the week.  (And down 1090 for the month, too.)

      Did that little thing slip your notice?

      1. Sharlee01 profile image89
        Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Good one! All would really be well if our energy, food, and interest rates on homes would come down. Oh, forgot Powell is talking about raising interest rates again. Oh and then there is the latest problem emerging people are living on credit cards....And many are not capable of paying what they have accumulated. 

        "Are people living off of credit cards?
        The Inside 1031 survey found that 49% of Americans depend on credit cards to cover essential living expenses.Jul 25, 2023"
        https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jaw-drop … 22967.html

        "How bad is credit card debt right now?
        The total U.S. consumer credit card debt has risen to an all-time high of $1.03 trillion in Q2 2023, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York's Center for Microeconomic Data.Aug 9, 2023"
        https://www.bankrate.com/finance/credit … ic%20Data.
        https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/economy/ … index.html

        Looks like 2007 is happening all over again.

        But all is good --- don't Ya know...

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I say again - "... Powell's speech where he applauded strong economic growth." - I guess you and he see things differently.

          What did slip your notice is that Biden's Dow is 5,000+ points higher than Trump's highest Dow.

          OH, then there is this - "Traders appeared to shake off fears of future rate hikes,"

          What does credit card debt tell me?  Consumer spending is strong because the economy is strong. (also that people do what they normally do, spend beyond their means.  I guess that is Biden's fault as well.)

          Give me a historical trend, say from 1960 to see if that 49% has any meaning.  Wanna bet it was higher in 2020?

        2. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          For middle class America or to put it more succinctly, the middling class are struggling.   Everything is increasing.   There is no economic growth.  In fact, it is the direct opposite.   There is downsizing, even elimination of jobs.   I see the REALITY of the situation, Sharlee.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            I agree... And the economic stats being celebrated in no respect show the truth of Bidinomics on Americans pocketbooks.

          2. Willowarbor profile image61
            Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            There is no economic growth.



            Economic growth is booming thanks to the strong labor market and resilient consumer spending. The unofficial GDPNow forecast from the Atlanta Federal Reserve expects economic growth in the third quarter to rise 5.8% on an annualized basis, double the rate of GDP growth from the same period last year and on pace for the biggest quarterly increase since the end of the post-pandemic boom in the last quarter of 2021.

            Foreign direct investment inflows since 2000 are way up.

            Spending on manufacturing in the US has seen a sharp uptick since the  Infrastructure Law of 2021, the IRA and the Chips Act came into law in 2022. Looking further back, this figure has more than doubled over the past decade.
            Even before those three acts nudged their way through Congress, US manufacturing expanded between 2020 and April 2022.

            US unemployment rate is as low as it has been in years and that the increase in manufacturing spending is creating jobs across the country.

            There's no doubt thatBiden’s legislative wins have given aspects of the economy a boost and created jobs.

            Morgan Stanley, among others,  credits Bidenomics for 'much stronger' than expected GDP growth.



            The economic growth under Biden has really defied forecasts. So in reality, we really do have economic growth.

            https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/2 … r-00108460

          3. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Everything always increases, except during a recession or depression.

            "There is no economic growth", you say. I say that in:

            2019 there was a 2.29% inflation adjusted growth
            2020 there was a negative 2.77% growth
            move on to Biden
            2021 there was a 5.95% annual growth rate.
            2022 there was a 2.09% growth rate.
            1st Q 2023 the economy has grown at a 2% inflation adjusted annual growth
            2nd Q 2023 the economy has grown at a sustainable 2.4% inflation adjusted annual growth rate.

            It seems to me the only time the economy hasn't grown is under Trump in 2020. Let's see your data to support your "no growth" claim.

            The REALITY of the situation is NOT the direct opposite (no data provided), The REALITY of the situation is that jobs are growing at a rapid rate.

            Employment is expected to increase 9.3 million jobs between 2021 and 2031 - https://www.bls.gov/emp/

            2021 - 6.4 million jobs were added
            2022 - 4.5 million jobs were added
            2023 so far - about 1.7 million more were added. We are well above pre-pandemic levels.

            Also, average wage increases have been outpacing inflation for a while now.  Especially now that inflation has dropped to 3.2% which is lower than the long-term average of 3.3%.

            Unemployment is the lowest it has been since 1969.

            That is what data-based REALITY looks like.

            1. wilderness profile image94
              wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              "Also, average wage increases have been outpacing inflation for a while now."

              This is flat untrue.  The only way to make it sound true is to use "core" CPI, and "chained" CPI at the same time.  Any actual measure of actual inflation will tell us that inflation is well above that mythical 3.2%.

              1. gmwilliams profile image84
                gmwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                THANK YOU.

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                I'm sorry, I can't use your made up definitions of inflation.  Show me the data, just don't claim it.

                Here, argue with this, not me.

                https://www.statista.com/statistics/135 … lation-us/

                1. wilderness profile image94
                  wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  I didn't see anything in there about what formula's were used to calculate inflation.  Did you?

                  Because the "norm" for several years now is to use only "core" inflation, with calculations based on the concept of "chained" CPI...meaning as things become too expensive they are simply discarded from the "shopping cart" used for calculations and cheaper ones added.  It is quite true that the result is a lower CPI, as people shift their buying to cheaper items and thus spend the same.  But that is hardly an honest way to decide what the CPI actually is.

                  But you know that, we've discussed it before.  If you think that is a reasonable method of calculating CPI (inflation) then more power to you - you fit right in with the rest of the lies we're getting from Congress.

                  If, on the other hand, you think it results in a false-to-fact figure for inflation then what is your beef?

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    And where do you get your claim about the "norm" from. I must use the official inflation index.  You will need to provide proof any other method is objectively better. 

                    BTW, when you talk about "core" and "chained" you are, I believe, talking about apples and oranges.  A "chained" CPI can be made of only "core" components or a more robust set goods in the market basket.

                    As to your description of "chained". I think it is wrong. They don't willy-nillie discard and add things to the "shopping cart" as you suggest.   Chained means they "chain" to periods (month over month or year over year) together and use a geometric average instead of an arithmetic one. The result is that a chained CPI-U is often lower than a traditional CPI.

                    https://www.cbo.gov/publication/44088

        3. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          You have made a couple of references to raising credit card debt and someplace else at how fast it was rising while, at the same time, implying this was something unusual and that Biden is somehow responsible for.

          Since I didn't know the answer to that, I went looking for data to back up what you claimed. 

          I found a table of Consumer Debt (1943 - 2023), of which credit card debt (revolving) is a subset.  Then I normalized it by dividing by population.  This is required because the population keeps growing over time. Then I put it into constant 2017 dollars so that one year can be compared to the next. After that, I took the natural logarithm3 of the result in order to easily calculate percent growth.

          Here is what I found:

          1. To your claim that credit card debt is at an all time high.  If you are talking about so far in 2023, that is NOT true.  But it was true if you had made the claim in each year from 1943 - 1945; 1947 - 1949; 1950 - 1953; 1955; 1956; 1959 - 1969; 1970 - 1973; 1976 - 1979; 1983 - 1989; 1993 - 2007; 2010; 2012 - 2019; 2021; 2022 (but NOT 2023).  What is the point in all that data?  The point is making that claim has very little meaning, good or bad, in the context of history.

          2. Elsewhere I think you made the claim the increase in credit card debt is very fast.  While it is increasing, historically the current rate (at the end of 2022) of 3.85% per year from 2020 - 2023.  Compare that to the following:

          1943 - 2022 - 3.99% (in other words the growth under Biden is less than the historic average)

          How about after other recessions?

          1975 - 1979: 4.83% Nixon
          1982 - 1989: 5.69% Reagan
          1992 - 2007: 4.15% Clinton - Bush II

          Seems to me, Biden is doing pretty good relative to the increase in consumer debt.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Biden in a 'lot of trouble' as economic trends turn 'frightening,' warns Charles Payne
            'Hannity' panel discusses some media outlets and Democrats turning on Biden

            "FOX Business Network host Charles Payne sounded the alarm that the economic indicators in the United States are becoming "frightening." Payne said on "Hannity" that he fears $4-per-gallon gasoline could look cheap in the next few months, and "Americans just aren't prepared" for what is coming.

            'IT'S HURT US BAD': AMERICANS GRADE PRESIDENT BIDEN'S HANDLING OF THE ECONOMY AS HE TOUTS 'BIDENOMICS'

            CHARLES PAYNE: He's [Biden] in a lot of trouble, but it's going to get a lot worse. The trends on the economic data are frightening… frightening. We see the smallest banks right now, their delinquency rates are 7.5%, it's off the rails, but the large banks are turning up. Credit card interest rates just cracked 22% as defaults are going through the roof. All the economic indicators point to extreme pain, and it's going to be exponential. … It's gradual, and then it's going to feel like a rocket ship and Americans just aren't prepared for it. You know, all of the free, steady money is gone. We're still dealing with inflation. People are trying to batten down the hatches. Our gasoline inventories are at a five-year low. Obviously, the Strategic Petroleum Reserve is at its lowest levels since 1983. Four dollars may look cheap three months from now, and $4 may look cheap for what looked like the good old days three or four months from now. The trajectory, right no that we're on, all the indicators point to what we're feeling right now is just the very tip of the iceberg. It's going to get a whole lot worse.

            US RECESSION REMAINS 'MORE LIKELY THAN NOT,' DEUTSCHE BANK WARNS

            The U.S. economy has a better chance than not of tumbling into a recession within the next year as inflation remains uncomfortably high, according to Deutsche Bank strategists.

            In an analyst note Wednesday, the strategists warned a recession remains the more likely outcome than a "soft landing" as a result of the Federal Reserve's aggressive interest rate hike campaign.

            "Given that inflation peaked significantly above target, the Fed should err on the side of tightening too much, rather than too little," they wrote. "A U.S. recession remains more likely than not."

            While a soft landing is still possible to achieve, the Fed needs to "depress demand below potential" to bring inflation down to its 2% target, Deutsche Bank said. "
            https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-lot … rles-payne

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              "'Hannity' panel " - That says they are lying.

              It is a shame so many Americans don't use their head when answering poll questions about the economy.  No economist worth their salt would agree with what the polls say.

              "Given that inflation peaked significantly above target, the Fed should err on the side of tightening too much, rather than too little,"" - SO, do you agree with them that the Fed should throw the economy into a recession? A simple yes or no will do.

              Also, their ignorance is showing since inflation is now below historical averages.

              Very few, if any, banks are predicting a recession now.

              JPMorgan's chief economist said on Friday the bank is no longer forecasting a U.S. recession this year and has raised its economic growth estimate as the economy expands at a "healthy pace."

              Your sources appear to be dummies and bomb-throwers.

              Earlier this week, strategists at Bank of America said they no longer forecast a 2024 recession for the U.S. and increased their 2023 economic growth outlook for the country.

              https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/jpmo … 20country.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                "Biden in a 'lot of trouble' as economic trends turn 'frightening,' warns Charles Payne"

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  And Charles Payne speaks Fox, not the truth.  You may not, but I believe BoA and J.P. Morgan economists over anything Payne puts out.  So, to remind you:

                  JPMorgan's chief economist said on Friday the bank is no longer forecasting a U.S. recession this year and has raised its economic growth estimate as the economy expands at a "healthy pace."

                  and

                  Earlier this week, strategists at Bank of America said they no longer forecast a 2024 recession for the U.S. and increased their 2023 economic growth outlook for the country.

                  I just don't understand why you can't accept the fact the economy is objectively good when all the data says so.

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                    Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    The article you quoted was old -- Aug 7, 2023, the coming week will bring new projections.


                    3 days ago  --   "The U.S. economy has a better chance than not of tumbling into a recession within the next year as inflation remains uncomfortably high, according to Deutsche Bank strategists.
                    https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/poss … 023-09-06/

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        "... Powell's speech where he applauded strong economic growth." - I guess you and he see things differently.

        What did slip your notice is that Biden's Dow is 5,000+ points higher than Trump's highest Dow.

        1. wilderness profile image94
          wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Yeah.  It's up around 18% in 4 years.  Personally I do not see that as a stellar achievement, well under the average.

          But more to the point, touting what it has done in one day doesn't say a thing about what it has done recently.

          1. gmwilliams profile image84
            gmwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            +1000000000000000.

  7. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    Biden just keeps giving good economic news.  Soon, the American people will shake off all of the conservative media lies and understand the economy is good.  They have jobs and they have paychecks rising faster than inflation.

    https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/ … index.html

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, always wonderful to see the unemployment rate rise... Maybe next month we can see a steeper rise.OMG

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Or maybe we can see a new low.OMG.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Yes, true... But  I deal with what is in front of me... My utility bills, food prices, citizens unable to afford to buy homes, many citizens unable to pay their credit cards. The here and now is ugly enough. Maybe we should not dwell on next month --- could be far worse.
          https://finance.yahoo.com/news/a-troubl … 09041.html

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            So do I.  Did your food prices go up 1% last month or the month before or the month before that or five months before that? I don't think so.

            I have watched, over the last 12 months, gas prices go up and down between $2.89 early this year to $3.89 a couple of weeks ago.  They have now fallen back to $3.68.

            Many citizens have always been unable to pay their credit cards, there is nothing new about that.  That happened a lot under Trump's last years.

            Here and now is actually pretty good.

          2. gmwilliams profile image84
            gmwilliamsposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Prices unfortunately keep increasing at an astronomical rate.  Only the upper echelons of the upper middle class & the upper class are comfortable these days.  These classes are the ones who can easily afford housing & food plus luxuries.  They are AT LEAST 5-7 paychecks away from homelessness & destitution.   The middle class(I mean the solidly middle class) is slowly sinking.  They feel the pinch of raising housing & food prices, not to mention increasing cost of medical insurance.  The lower middle class is in KNEE DEEP so to speak.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Are you saying the current inflation rate of 3%, which is Below the historical average is "astronomical"? LOL

              It isn't inflation that is causing what you describe - it is income inequality as the rich keep getting richer and everybody else keeps getting poorer.  It won't be long before we are back to the 1920s when there were only two classes, the very rich and everybody else.

              The rich need to pay their fair share of taxes to pay for the privileges they get for simply being rich.

              1. wilderness profile image94
                wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                LOLOLOLOL  Inflation is 3%!

                For sure, as my grocery bill has gone up 25% in a year.  The electric company got an 8% raise and has applied for another 10%.  Gasoline has gone up 20% and rent about 15%.  Even the car wash I frequented has gone up 25%.
                But lying Biden tells you it is only 3%, so it must be.  Right!

                And that some people are making more than I do means that those prices didn't actually rise; it is just that they make more so that my income doesn't cover what it did a year ago.  Right!

                And finally, some people should pay ten thousand times what you do in taxes, for the same privilege of living in the US, because that is "fair".  Just as they pay ten thousand times what you do for a loaf of bread or a new Chevrolet.  Right!

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_infla … st%20year.

                  I rest my case.  Your alternate reality just doesn't jive with the facts.  It is interesting to see that you think you have the same opportunities to earn money as a billionaire does; that the billionaire doesn't have any advantages that you don't have.

                  1. wilderness profile image94
                    wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    "It is interesting to see that you think you have the same opportunities to earn money as a billionaire does; that the billionaire doesn't have any advantages that you don't have."

                    Please: copy/paste where I said that.  Or acknowledge that you are once more putting words in my mouth that were never there.  Your choice.

                    (Or produce the crystal ball that allows you to read minds: personally I do not believe it is real.  Just more of your imagination.)

      2. Willowarbor profile image61
        Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        While partisans may prefer to ignore this reality, Basic economic principles apply regardless of who is in the White House.
        Inflation has historically had an inverse relationship with unemployment. This means that when inflation rises, unemployment drops. Higher unemployment, on the other hand, equates to lower inflation. When more people are working, they have the power to spend, which leads to an increase in demand. And prices (inflation) soon follow. The opposite is true when unemployment rises.
        It's always been a balancing act. Most economists are predicting a higher level of unemployment to balance inflation.

        For example George W Bush had an unemployment rate of just over 7% with an inflation rate of virtually zero.

        Obama had more of a balance at 4.7 unemployment and inflation around 2.5.

        Trump, 6.4 unemployment and 1.4 inflation at the end of his term.

        Basic economic principles will always prevail.

        Bottom line,
        over nearly 80 years, inflation averaged 3.69% when Democrats were in command vs. 3.59% for Republicans.

        Question for everyone, does anyone know which president simultaneously held inflation and unemployment at their lowest?

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I have not in any respect denied stats, or figures...  simply gave a personal view of the problems that are hurting Americans' pocketbooks. The bottom line --- Americans are paying more for food, utilities, housing, cars, gas --- and more. My comment did not dispute stats just that we are paying more for just about everything.

          I actually don't look at stats for Trump's last year in office we had a pandemic that affected the entire world... I only consider stats before the pandemic hit...

          I prefer a good chart, it just gives a good solid picture of what occurred under Biden.

          https://hubstatic.com/16693968_f1024.jpg
          https://policyadvice.net/money/guides/u … tatistics/

          1. Willowarbor profile image61
            Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            "I prefer a good chart, it just gives a good solid picture of what occurred under Biden.

            For me, The chart lacks a lot of context.  Particularly the factors that affected the uptick in inflation at that time on history. 

            Currently under Biden,  we have record low unemployment and inflation that is coming down. It is going to take time. Currently wages are outpacing inflation.  From July 2022 to July 2023, real average hourly earnings increased  Let's hope the FED leaves well enough alone.
            Your initial comment that I responded to was in terms of unemployment rising.
            Question, were you satisfied with the 6.4% unemployment rate when Trump left office?

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              "In light of the unprecedented circumstances, how did you feel about the 6.4% unemployment rate at the end of Trump's tenure?"

              Given the near shutdown of our country due to the pandemic, I wasn't surprised by the figure. To me, it seemed like a reflection of the significant challenges people faced in finding work and the necessity of unemployment assistance for many to make ends meet.

              I also admired Trump's ability to keep inflation in check during his final year in office amid the pandemic. While many were struggling financially, he managed to maintain price stability.

              In my view, Trump tackled issues as they arose and did an impressive job overall."

              Back to the subject of my comment, in regard to inflation and the problems it is causing Americans ---   I have not in any respect denied stats, or figures...  simply gave a personal view of the problems that are hurting Americans' pocketbooks. The bottom line --- Americans are paying more for food, utilities, housing, cars, gas --- and more. My comment did not dispute stats just that we are paying more for just about everything.

              Core inflation is the change in the costs of goods and services but does NOT  include those from the food and energy sectors. Food and energy prices are exempt from this calculation because their prices can be too volatile or fluctuate wildly.

              Under Trump, we had affordable food and energy prices.

              1. Willowarbor profile image61
                Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                I also admired Trump's ability to keep inflation in check during his final year in office amid the pandemic

                I see his last year in office a bit differently. He was preoccupied with re-election, doing rallies and cultivating the idea that the election would be stolen from him. He did not seem very present for the most part of his last year. I certainly don't see any legislation that happened during that time that would have impacted inflation.
                Did the pandemic have an effect on inflation seen under Biden?

                Inflation typically increases coming out of downturns as demand outpaces supply early in the recovery, such as during the pandemic. Back to simple economics, demand outpacing supply due to broken supply chains.

                In terms of Trump's high unemployment number, you're able to see the numbers in context to the circumstances at the time.  I almost never see the same extension of circumstances from Trump supporters discussing Biden's numbers. It's almost as if the effects of the pandemic extended to Trump but cannot be applied in any way to Biden.

                Trump's unemployment numbers were very high due to the pandemic yet if I use the rationale of many of his supporters I could turn around and ask "why wasn't he able to address this more effectively?". I could say he had poor problem solving skills.  Yeah I can reasonably see and understand the effects of the pandemic on employment.

                "I also admired Trump's ability to keep inflation in check during his final year in office amid the pandemic. While many were struggling financially, he managed to maintain price stability."

                Again, how did he keep inflation in check? Specific policy or legislation? Basic economic principles tell us that inflation generally stays low when unemployment is higher. People were not out spending during the pandemic. Not a lot of demand for goods, keeping prices in check. No demand keeps prices low. It's tough to give him credit for that one. Those were simply the circumstances of the times.

                Ultimately, both Trump and Biden were and have been impacted by the pandemic. Trump had high unemployment numbers due to the pandemic but as a result was able to show low inflation because they go hand in hand one is a result of the other.  These very economic patterns are so prevalent in our history with only a handful of times that we have both high inflation and high unemployment (recession inflation)

                Biden experienced the exact opposite. With more people back to work he has shown historic employment numbers. But with people  able to go out and spend  without corresponding supply equals inflation.

                That's my take.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  "Again, how did he keep inflation in check? Specific policy or legislation?"

                  The pandemic led to a significant decrease in consumer spending as you shared, lockdowns and restrictions were put in place to curb the spread of the virus. This decrease in demand for goods and services puts downward pressure on prices.

                  Oil prices plummeted in the early months of the pandemic due to a combination of reduced demand and a price war between major oil-producing countries. Lower energy prices contributed to lower overall inflation in 2020

                  The government implemented a series of economic stimulus measures, including direct payments to individuals and enhanced unemployment benefits, which helped support consumer spending and prevent a more severe economic downturn.  In my view, These measures helped stabilize the economy and maintain some level of demand.

                  The Federal Reserve implemented a range of monetary policy measures to support the economy during the pandemic. This included lowering interest rates to near-zero levels and implementing quantitative easing, which involved purchasing assets to inject liquidity into financial markets. These actions were aimed at ensuring that financial markets remained stable and that borrowing costs were low.

                  Trump's administration played a role in advocating for and implementing some of these economic measures,  inflation is primarily the responsibility of the Federal Reserve. The Fed uses its tools, such as setting interest rates and conducting open market operations, to manage inflation and ensure economic stability.

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                What, specifically, did Trump do to keep inflation down? I can't think of a thing.  He just benefitted from timing.

                Under Obama, Clinton, Carter, Johnson, Kennedy, we had affordable food and energy prices to (save for Carter who suffered from the Nixon-Ford oil problems.  Trump just went along for the ride and did nothing whatsoever to help or hurt the situation (save for farmers - he bankrupted them didn't he?)

                The fact is, BLS reports regular inflation most often,  Then they add the "core" numbers and CPI-U for completeness.

                What your truncated chart reflected was traditional CPI

                1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  "What, specifically, did Trump do to keep inflation down? I can't think of a thing.  He just benefitted from timing."

                  In my view, It is important to consider that economic policies and outcomes, including inflation rates, are influenced by a complex interplay of factors, attributing low inflation solely to one individual, in this case
                  .
                  Trump, oversimplifies the situation. Furthermore, I have learned the state of the economy is influenced by the actions and policies of multiple actors, including the Federal Reserve, Congress, and global economic forces.
                  During Trump's presidency, the United States did experienced low inflation compared to historical norms. Inflation rates varied during this period and were influenced by a range of factors. There were in my view, some of the factors that played a role in shaping inflation during the Trump administration:

                  Trump inherited an economy that was already on the path to recovery from the Great Recession of 2007-2009. The recovery had been ongoing for several years before he took office, under Obama.

                  The Federal Reserve plays a significant role in controlling inflation through its monetary policy. During Trump's presidency, the Federal Reserve gradually raised interest rates in an effort to manage inflation and maintain economic stability.  Trump nominated Powell to serve as the chair of the Federal Reserve. I respect Powell and feel he was greatly responsible for the low inflation during Trump's years in the WH.

                  Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act into law in 2017, which reduced corporate and individual tax rates. I feel the tax cut may have stimulated economic growth., and contributed to a good inflation rate.

                  Trump's administration pursued a more protectionist trade policy, including tariffs on imports from certain countries. These trade policies had the potential to disrupt global supply chains and could affect prices of imported goods, which, in turn, could have an impact on inflation.

                  Oil and energy prices, in my view,  always have a significant influence on inflation. During Trump's presidency, there were fluctuations in oil prices due to various factors, including global supply and demand dynamics. These factors worked in Trump's favor.

                  It is also essential to recognize that inflation trends are not solely determined by the actions of a single individual or administration. They are the result of complex economic forces and policies implemented by various branches of government, central banks, and external global factors.

                  Low inflation, as experienced during some periods of Trump's presidency, can be seen as the result of a combination of all these factors, rather than a single policy or action.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    I only attribute low inflation to Biden because you insist on blaming him for high inflation. In fact, neither are true.

                    I beg to differ. Trump inherited an economy that had already (not on the path) recovered.  It was a strong and sustainable economy and in spite of the Trump policies, such as those of economic isolation that bankrupted our farmers, it remained strong and sustainable - until the pandemic.

                    I agree with all else you wrote.

                    In addition, as Willowarbor (and even Wilderness) correctly pointed out, inflation is fundamentally caused by increasing demand tied with stagnant or decreasing supply. (The other principal reason which gov't policy has direct control over, is printing excess dollars at the wrong time.)

                    As I tried to point out earlier, this round of inflation was predictable and should have been expected even though a lot of smart people talked themselves out of the obvious.

                    The fuse was lit decades ago when business decided is was a good thing to move to "just-in-time" logistics. That worked to increase profits for a very long time but had a fundamental flaw that we say on occasion during major strikes.

                    The flaw was Just-in-Time logistics cannot sustain itself during major, world-wide supply disruptions which we saw resulting from the pandemic (and not Biden as the Right insists is true).  Under the old paradigm, large inventories acted as a buffer to major supply disruptions. But even that wouldn't have stopped inflation from happening in 2021; it just would have delayed it some and mitigated its size.

                    When Trump began, and Biden finished opening up the economy as the pandemic receded, people should have known demand would have exploded.  They also should have known, especially with China's Covid policies and the world's reliance on their output, that supply was simply NOT going to keep up.  As a consequence, we had the spike in inflation was saw in 2021 - 2022.

                    Today, supply has more or less caught up with demand which is why inflation as all but disappeared.

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Current inflation is 3.18%, which is left off the chart for some reason.  It is now below the historical average.  Consequently, one can say Biden beat the inflation he was not responsible for.

          2. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            I notice you cut your chart off just after inflation peaked.  Why did you do that?

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              I did not cut off the chart. I just saved and posted the chart. Please visit the link.

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                You didn't post the charts that extend to 2023 and you could have.  That is my point.  For example,



                https://hubstatic.com/16695096_f1024.jpg

                You must admit this chart leaves an entirely different impression than the one you posted. Especially, when you consider the fact that average inflation is higher than the last point on the chart.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  I think the chart suited the conversation I was having with Willow when I posted the chart. I made sure in my first sentence that I did in no respect argue or deny the promising stats she offered. Here is the comment where I posted the chart. I only used it to prove my point in regard to my thoughts on Trump's inflation rate. I am fully aware of the current inflation rate and do not dispute it. My point --- although the inflation rate is decreasing many things such as food, utilities, and borrowing rates, remain a true problem for many in America. Willow provides a multitude of stats, all accurate, and positive.  I stressed another subject  --- Americans do not feel the stats, due to the costs of making ends meet. I really was not trying to be unfair to the "Biden stats" --- just making a point that we are not feeling any difference in our pocketbooks.

                  I also need to point out that food and energy prices do not go into calculating the inflation rate.  Yes, the full chart does speak for itself and shows a good dip in inflation. But the people are not feeling the lower inflation number.

                  https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/352 … ost4305479

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    But as Willowarbor said, the chart was missing a lot of context.

                    I beg to differ - food and energy ARE NOT excluded from the traditional CPI.

                    "The CPI represents changes in prices of all goods and services purchased for consumption by urban households. User fees (such as water and sewer service) and sales and excise taxes paid by the consumer are also included. Income taxes and investment items (like stocks, bonds, and life insurance) are not included."

                    https://www.bls.gov/cpi/overview.htm#:~ … 0insurance)%20are%20not%20included.

                    Do they ALSO report the "core" CPI without food and energy? Yes they do, but only as a supplemental piece of information.  Do they also report the chained CPI (CPI-U)? Yes they do, but only as a supplemental piece of information.

  8. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    One of the best things that could happen for the Democrats is for the MAGA Republicans to open an impeachment investigation or actually impeach President Biden on trumped up charges (which is all they have).

    Should that happen, it all but guarantees another Democratic sweep in 2024 (and in Virginia in 2023 should it happen before November).

    1. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Sounds like exactly what was done to Trump: a trumped up impeachment attempt (twice!) that had no merit.  And he lost.

      Why would you expect any different from one on Biden?  Democrats have turned the impeachment process into a political tool to eliminate competition - expect it to continue for years.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        There was nothing "trumped" up about the charges brought against Trump.  The ONLY reason he was not convicted in either case is pure politics and partisanship.

        You keep forgetting, a MARORITY of senators voted to convict Trump twice.  In the second insurrection case, they fell just three Republicans short of an actual conviction.  But that is OK, Trump has now been indicted twice for what he was impeached for the second time.

        "trumped up", my behind.

        The Democrats used impeachment properly because the evidence against Trump was overwhelming in each case.  Show me ANY HARD evidence (not innuendo) the Republicans have against Biden.

        In fact, those two impeachments were the only non-political impeachments in our history.  The ones against Johnson and Clinton were pure politics.

        1. wilderness profile image94
          wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          "The ONLY reason he was not convicted in either case is pure politics and partisanship."

          Just as the ONLY reason he was impeached in either case is pure politics and partisanship, and all your whining and complaining does not change that.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            You can make-believe all you want, but it doesn't change the FACT that there was plenty of HARD EVIDENCE to back up the charges. No politics was needed although I will admit the Democrats aren't above that as well.  They just didn't need to in this case.

            But, just as important, a majority of senators thought so to, especially in the second impeachment where only three more Republicans needed to find their patriotism and put the vote over the TECHNICAL 60 vote threshold.

            Didn't you once say that the majority should rule?

            1. wilderness profile image94
              wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              So that the required number of "guilty" votes was not forthcoming means he was actually guilty, is that what you're trying to say?  It was only a TECHNICAL thing, so we can declare guilt without it, right?

              No, the majority does not always rule.  Sometimes it does, sometimes not (how many juror votes does it take to convict in a criminal case?).

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                That is exactly what I am saying.  The 60 votes needed is a technical number to remove him from office.  The fact that a majority of the senators found him guilty is enough for me.  As they say, he got off on a technicality.

                You are correct, the majority does not always rule.  But it does tell you what most people are thinking.  And most senators (along with the rest of America) thought Trump was guilty in both instances.

                Remember, in a jury vote they are NOT determining innocence. They are determining guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.  Remember also, that in a civil trial, you don't need 100% to agree PLUS guilt is determined by the preponderance of the evidence.  Had the Trump impeachment trials followed Civil rules, he would have been found guilty.

  9. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 9 months ago

    Here are my thoughts on why an impeachment trial could serve "We The People" -- It could work as a means to unveil and assess the numerous pieces of evidence concerning President Biden and his son. This process could ultimately determine their innocence or guilt conclusively. Over the past few years, Americans have witnessed multiple investigations involving both Trump and now Biden. Therefore, it might be more efficient to promptly initiate an impeachment trial and transparently present to the public the body of evidence that Congress has gathered. This would enable citizens to better understand any POTENTIAL wrongdoing by the Biden family or clear their name. It is crucial for us, as citizens, to access all relevant information before making an informed decision regarding our next president.

    1. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      But isn't that what the three committee's investigations are all about? Trying to find something on Joe Biden that will stick?  So far they have come up empty handed.  Why would an impeachment inquiry do any better?

      BTW - weren't you one of the ones claiming the Jan 6th investigation was an investigation in search of a crime (even though the evidence of that crime was right in front of your nose on video and in texts and in social media posts?

      In this case neither Jordan, Comer, nor Steil have produced a shred of hard evidence to suggest Biden did anything wrong (and neither did another Republican attempt to smear Biden years ago).  This is a TRUE witch hunt.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image89
        Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        We find ourselves at a standstill, a situation where progress seems unattainable, as our perspectives on various documents, bank records, FBI reports, emails, and sworn whistleblower testimonies differ significantly.

        In my opinion, during an impeachment, it is crucial to thoroughly illuminate the uncovered evidence. Conducting a trial provides Congress with a platform to request and likely obtain the elusive documents they've been pursuing, and to subpoena witnesses for sworn testimony. I believe that this process can serve to establish guilt or innocence.
        I'm concerned that the principle of "innocent until proven guilty" is giving way to a prevailing sentiment of "guilty until proven innocent." Reversing this trend seems increasingly improbable.

        It saddens me that we've arrived at this juncture. Nonetheless, I believe that President Biden should be subject to this form of justice, as Trump was.  I'm not inclined to ignore any potentially damaging information solely because we are now applying the "guilty until proven innocent" approach to a Democrat. What was deemed appropriate for President Trump should also apply to President Biden.

        I don't feel Biden needs to be treated differently.  Are the GOP pulling a Dems politically? Maybe

        WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND, If someone treats other people badly he or she will eventually be treated badly by someone.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          "Conducting a trial provides Congress with a platform to request and likely obtain the elusive documents they've been pursuing, and to subpoena witnesses for sworn testimony." - Except they rarely do that in an impeachment trial.  I think it happened once.

          "bank records, FBI reports, emails, and sworn whistleblower testimonies" - A lot has been produced but not one, not one has drawn a line to President Biden, including the stuff you posted.  It is not perspective when there is nothing to be perspective about - there was nothing factual there to disagree or agree about.

          "I believe that President Biden should be subject to this form of justice" - What, exactly, do you think Biden has done?  When you are talking about Trump, there was tons of stuff to point to. With Biden, I haven't seen anything other than Republican wishful  thinking.

          If the Republicans are allowed to get away with this, then every president will be impeached from here on out. 

          There was little to impeach Johnson about other than firing a cabinet secretary (I think)

          There was a lot to impeach Nixon about, but he resigned before they could impeach him. Why, because he saw there were enough honest Republicans in the Senate to convict him.

          There was nothing federal about what Clinton did, that was just a Republican hit job.  Even many Senate Republicans couldn't stomach what the House Republicans did.

          With Trump's first impeachment, there was tons of evidence, including audio, that screamed abuse of power.  A majority[b] of senators voted to convict.  That means most senators thought Trump was guilty.

          With Trump's second impeachment (what he is now indicted for) the crime was even more clear cut.  An even [b]larger majority of senators
          found him guilty.  It was just three Republicans shy of the 60 vote threshold - three!  While it didn't meet the constructional requirement for conviction, most clearly thought he was guilty.  Thankfully, we will have a truly impartial jury in Washington and Atlanta to judge is guilt or innocence.

          With Biden, there is simply nothing, not even a fired cabinet official.

          The DEMS didn't play politics, they didn't need to. They just followed the evidence.

  10. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    CNN published a devastating poll for President Biden.  While it contained few bright spots, it did point out a couple of things his campaign needs to do.

    1,  Start advertising showing Biden's vigor and mental acuity.  His doctor said he is quite physically and mentally fit to hold office.  Start showing videos of him jogging and the grueling work schedule he keeps up - a schedule many here on this forum couldn't match. Ditto with his mental faculties, he has shown himself to be as sharp, if not sharper than anyone in this forum.  I will grant that he sometimes doesn't "look" the part.  In fact, I have to keep reminding myself that what I see on television sometimes is not a realistic picture of how Biden really is.  Don't judge a book by its cover is how I believe the saying goes OR by the propaganda put out by Biden-Haters.

    2. The Economy - The economy is strong, all the experts without an agenda say so.  And a reading of the numbers by laymen who understand them gives the same picture.  While people apparently don't "think" so, Biden has done a lot to bring back the economy from the position it was in at the end of Trump's term.  So long as the economy stays strong, people will come to realize things like inflation is over, that their paychecks are growing faster than inflation, etc.  The campaign needs to do a full-court press to drive that point home and to counteract the right-wing propaganda machine.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/opinions … index.html

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Jogging? Please provide some evidence that he jogs. I have seen him try to copy the bit of jogging to a podium as Obam was known for, He seems to be very much compromised with stiff leg syndrome. I have never seen any flicks of him jogging.

      Ecconoy --- only going to get worse.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … s-age.html

        Biden sticks to a morning workout routine of strength training and cardio and incorporates exercise into his daily routine. His small habits, such as lifting dumbbells during phone calls, go a long way.
        https://medium.com/in-fitness-and-in-he … d8fbf15125

        The report revealed that Biden, a father of four (two of whom have died) and grandfather of seven, doesn’t drink alcohol or smoke, and he exercises at least five days a week.

        https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/health … 5d4jb.html

        You didn't comment on his grueling work schedule.  Think you could keep up?

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Biden's work schedule appears less strenuous than what we have come to expect from a president, and there's a lack of transparency about his daily activities. If you've seen the video, you might have noticed President Biden's occasional lighthearted three-step jog, which he does quite often.  Some citizens today express concerns about his overall stamina as he seems to be showing signs of aging poorly, and has occasional lapses in coherency. There have been instances of him nodding off in less suitable settings.  He is by no means, in my view, a man who should be president of the United States.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            And Some Citizens believe in leprechauns to.  Doesn't mean much to me.  His doctor says he is aging just fine and those articles I gave you back that up.

            And, of course, in my view, he is the man America needs to be president.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              I think we will need to agree to disagree.

            2. wilderness profile image94
              wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Weren't you one of those that said Trump's psych doctor was full of crap?  Because, you know, you detected mental illness?

              But this time is different - it is a Democrat politician the Dr. is saying is fine (or at least a modicum of "fine" considering the age of the man).  A well though out argument.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Actually, it is pretty shocking how many Americans feel Biden is not fit Mentally or physically to serve as President.
                https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 … th-survey/

                "A new poll found that just more than two of three respondents are concerned about President Biden’s mental and physical health.

                The NBC News poll found that 68 percent are concerned that Biden, 80, does not possess the “necessary” mental and physical health to serve as president, with 55 percent saying they have “major” concerns. By comparison, 32 percent said that they have minor or no concerns with Biden’s health.

                When asked about whether they are concerned about former President Trump’s mental and physical health, 55 percent said they are concerned, including 44 percent who have “major concerns. Forty-four percent said they have minor or no concerns that Trump, 77, has the mental and physical health needed to serve as president.

                Sixty percent of respondents also said they are concerned about Biden being reelected to serve another four years in the White House, including 46 percent who reported having “major” concerns. Fifty-eight percent answered the same way for Trump, including 51 percent saying they have “major” concerns.

                The poll, which was taken after Trump was indicted by the Justice Department on charges related to his handling of classified materials, also found that the former has a comfortable lead over his opponents in the 2024 GOP presidential primary, and that his lead has grown since April. The poll also found that nearly half of Republicans want Trump to continue as the leader of their party.

                The poll was conducted June 16 to 20 among 1,000 registered voters and has a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points."

                It is clear a small minority feel he is...

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  I must agree with you, it is shocking all many Americans feel that way.  It is sad to see how badly mistaken they are when you look at it objectively rather than how they are - subjectively (and under the influence of the right-wing propaganda machine).

                  I think I pointed that out when I posted the CNN poll.

                  But remember, you used the key word "FEEL".  That is a far cry from "knowing" or "being True", isn't it.

                  You also point out that half the Republican party have had their neural pathways damaged as a result of Trump and his right-wing propaganda machine's rhetoric. (That is OBJECTIVE rather than SUBJECTIVE, based upon numerous studies which I have posted.)

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Nope, don't believe I ever said Trump's psyche doctors were full of crap. I didn't even know he had a "psyche doctor".

                What I did say, however, is that 20+ mental health professionals said - in layman's terms - that Trump is dangerously mentally ill.  And history has proven them correct.

                Even though you attempt to minimize it, Biden's physician was much more forceful than "a modicum of fine".  In fact he said - President Biden is a “healthy, vigorous, 80-year-old,”  I'll just chalk your hyperbole up to partisan Biden hating.

                1. wilderness profile image94
                  wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  Chalk it up to whatever you want.  And I'm sure you knew Trump had a psych evaluation, passing it according to the doctor.  But you would rather believe a bunch of quacks who give a diagnosis without ever having an examination; it fits with the TDS litany of "Trump Bad Man".

                  Yeah, Biden is healthy and vigorous...for an 80 year old man.  Unfortunately, the average 80 year old man is not physically or mentally fit to fill Biden's job, but that's all right; anything but Trump.  A catfish maybe, or a frog.  Anything but Trump.

                  1. Credence2 profile image78
                    Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Wilderness,

                    So, how old is Trump? 77.... not exactly a spring chicken who is well beyond dementia, more like being demented already, and deliberate malevolence trumps dementia.

                    The Republicans has a octogenarian as Senate Majority leader that is even older than Biden, who is showing cognitive deficits already. Is it being too old or is it being a Democrat?

                    Yes, a catfish or frog may well be preferable to a man with more than a couple of indictments and charges against him, running for the top office.

                  2. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Twisting and turning.


                    "In 1999, Payne settled with the SEC over a complaint alleging that on at least eight occasions, Wall Street Strategies recommended that its clients purchase members stock through recorded messages on its telephonic stock recommendation service. The complaint also alleged that Payne failed to disclose that he received payments from members to promote members stock. Without admitting or denying the alleged violations, Payne consented to the entry of a permanent injunction against violations of Section 17(b) of the Securities Act of 1933. In addition, Payne agreed to pay a civil penalty of $25,000.[7]"

  11. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    Let's see what this, as the right-wing media and Biden-haters on this forum describe him, one-foot-in-the-grave, low energy, dementia-riddled president has been up to the last few days.

    He flew to India to attend the G-20 summit and went to work trying to draw friends of China closer to the US, his main goal of the trip.  He got agreements with India, Brazil, and South Africa.

    The animating theme of Biden’s foreign policy is that democracies can deliver while autocracies, despite bursts of strength and activity, eventually fade away. The American leader aimed to prove his theory true in the Indian capital, with a series of appearances, meetings and initiatives aimed at cementing the United States as the world’s undeniable power.[/b]  AND the Right-Wing says he isn't capable of that, lol.

    [i]The broader initiative, branded as the Partnership for Global Infrastructure and Investment, is Biden’s answer to the “Belt and Road Initiative” that China has used to expand its influence with smaller nations that need investment dollars. By raising public and private capital, Biden and U.S. allies are looking to peel away some weaker countries from China, giving them a source of funding that doesn’t make them beholden to Beijing.
    - NON-STOP MEETINGS.

    To cap off the flurry of diplomatic activity, Biden and his colleagues announced a new economic corridor from India through the Middle East to Europe. A new railway will help link the countries and regions as new sea cables will improve connectivity and promote clean technology development, they asserted in the cavernous Bharat Mandapam convention center, with an eye toward tying all the players economically and politically.

    THEN off to Vietnam to cement better relations with them.  Where does he get the energy?

    Seems to me all the right-wing talk about Biden's incompetence is just a bunch of partisan hot-air that smells.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/0 … 0-00114870

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/10/politics … index.html

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      "Let's see what this, as the right-wing media and Biden-haters on this forum describe him, one-foot-in-the-grave, low energy, dementia-riddled president has been up to the last few days."

      I haven't come across any negative descriptions like the ones you mentioned. I genuinely believe you might be attributing those descriptions unfairly. In my experience, I haven't observed any right-leaning individuals on this platform using such language. However, I have noticed some people here using derogatory labels when discussing Trump.

      However,   "When they go low, we go high".

      "He flew to India to attend the G-20 summit and went to work trying to draw friends of China closer to the US, his main goal of the trip.  He got agreements with India, Brazil, and South Africa."

      So pleased you brought this up, because I am sure many are not aware of what Biden has promised India and Africa. Note I use the word promised... None of his handouts will come to fruition. Congress will never provide the money to aid in building these proposed railways to cross Europe or the African railway, that he has proposed to go across that continent.

      I truely hope anyone that reads this comment will do some research on his proposal, and listen to the speech he gave at the G20. (Guess pouring our tax money into other nations makes more sense than fixing our own broken rail systems.). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhmsfEsGJiQ

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ … -and-india
      I'm curious if Joe will find the time to address America's pressing issues. I'm particularly interested in his plans for managing the influx of migrants due to the open borders policy. Will he also tackle the homelessness problem, revitalize the economy, and address the contamination of our lakes with forever chemicals? Furthermore, I'm wondering if he will prioritize improving the quality of education for our children and reduce spending on ongoing military conflicts.

      Additionally, I'm eager to see if he can mend relations with the 13 Goldstar families he offended. Will he engage in debates with opposing candidates, work on enhancing his truthfulness, and refine his communication skills during speeches? 

      Most of all, I wonder when the few who support him will ever wake up to the fact he does not have what it takes to solve problems only creates them.

      From my perspective, it appears that his actions at the G20 summit mainly involve making promises that may be difficult to fulfill. As far as I understand, Congress holds the authority to allocate spending, and there seems to be growing dissatisfaction within this Congress regarding Joe's spending habits. I find myself pondering whether he is fully aware of the domestic situation. It's noteworthy that some members of Congress are reluctant to pass the budget and are even discussing the possibility of another government shutdown promise.  Moreover, according to the polls, there's a narrative suggesting that Biden may face defeat in the 2024 election. It raises questions about whether any future Republican president would fully endorse all of Joe's unpredictable decisions.

      I might argue that supporting a communist regime contradicts American values and that the U.S. should focus on other foreign policy priorities. It's crucial to assess the potential risks and costs associated with building a more prosperous Vietnam.

      "THEN off to Vietnam to cement better relations with them.  Where does he get the energy?"

      To name a few concerns --  Vietnam's communist government has been criticized for human rights violations, and supporting its economic growth may raise ethical and moral questions.

      One needs to consider, that supporting a communist regime may not align with U.S. foreign policy objectives, which often prioritize democracy and capitalism.  Lastly,  there is no guarantee that efforts to make Vietnam wealthier will result in political or ideological changes that benefit the U.S. Again, Biden does not clearly consider the problems that could occur due to his alliances with communist countries. 

      In the end, the choice to interact with Vietnam and bolster its economic development should hinge on a meticulous evaluation of American national interests, principles, and enduring foreign policy objectives. This is a multifaceted matter necessitating the contemplation of prospective advantages as well as possible disadvantages. His inability to foresee the repercussions of his actions is exemplified by his ill-fated withdrawal from Afghanistan.

      One can only discern his energy from viewing him at the G20. The video I offered shows he appears tired and stumbles through a speech that is barely coherent.
      Souce ---  "US President Joe Biden continued his blunder streak during his short trip to India's capital city over the weekend. The 80-year-old president's latest gaffe came at a meeting of the 18th G20 Summit attended by leaders of the forum on Saturday, in New Delhi, India.

      Reading from a sheet of paper placed in front of him, Biden referred to Mohammed bin Salman as "Salam", and then proceeded to mumble the rest of the words mentioned in the document. "The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salam, excuse me, Mohammed bin Salman ... and since he’s not speaking today, I wanted to — well he is speaking today. I had a note he wasn’t speaking."

      After realising the goof-up, Biden decided to end his short speech altogether, concluding it with " Anyway, I’m gonna stop there." His mispronunciation went viral on social media and turned into a field day for handles of the Republican National Committee (RNC).

      "Biden is not competent to be President, Commander in Chief or even a greeter at Walmart," wrote one on the platform X. "Every overseas trip is a dementia shtshow," remarked another. A third user added, "Why the hell do we have to be subjected to this embarrassment on the world stage?!? Why?!?"    https://www.republicworld.com/world-new … 20-article

      He well appears to be very fatigued.

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        He well appears to be rather sprightly.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          .Biden Unchained AT G20 -    Make Our Neighbors Great Again! "MONGA"
          How do you like the slogan I created?   

          Maybe Joe will use it on a hat.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            No, KAG is more appropriate, Keep America Great.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Could be Trump did have it pretty darn great. But Biden came in like a antique wrecking ball.

  12. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 9 months ago

    "What are the Great Things President Joe Biden Has Done While President"

    But Biden Did Not
    https://hubstatic.com/16709234_f1024.jpg

    Today, Biden is in Alaska, seemingly more concerned with appeasing climate control advocates than honoring the memory of the thousands of Americans tragically lost to terrorists on 9/11.

    His failure to commemorate this solemn occasion is both reprehensible and indefensible in my eyes. It's become painfully evident that he has little regard for those who've perished at the hands of terrorists.

    The 13 Gold Star families painfully witnessed his lack of empathy as he focused on self-promotion, in regard to telling the lie that his son was killed in the war...  Even checked his watch as the coffins were carried off an aircraft carrier. Their grief was overshadowed by his selfishness.

    It's crystal clear that he prioritizes his political agenda in Alaska over paying respects to the fallen. I can't adequately express the depth of my disgust for this man's behavior.

    Once again, I implore fellow Americans to take note of his disrespect.

    1. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      And if he had gone to the ceremony (Harris went) you would have complained that he is playing nice with Saudi Arabia. (I bet you had that waiting in the wings, didn't you?)

      In any case:

      * President Joe Biden is scheduled to be on the ground in Alaska for less than two hours as he marks the 9/11 anniversary from Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson

      * Biden has a full day's schedule in Vietnam on Monday before crossing the International Date Line to memorialize 9/11 at his refueling stop

      * The White House said Monday morning from Vietnam that a [u]9/11 Memorial would be installed on the North Portico[/i] at 6:30 a.m. EDT


      That is the real news rather than the rant above.

      Once again I implore fellow Americans to ignore the Russia-inspried Right-Wing propaganda designed to rip America apart.  I would be surprised if the above wasn't generated by a Russian or Chinese AI program.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image89
        Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        "And if he had gone to the ceremony (Harris went) you would have complained that he is playing nice with Saudi Arabia. (I bet you had that waiting in the wings, didn't you?)"

        not sure what you mean. Being nice to Saudi Arabia. Makes no sense.

        Actually, in my view, the Saudis want old Joe gone... I mean the Saudis can't wait to have Biden back in his basement. He is a true threat to them. I am pleased to see they are putting it to him in regards to not pumping.

        "* President Joe Biden is scheduled to be on the ground in Alaska for less than two hours as he marks the 9/11 anniversary from Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson"

        Hopefully, he does not speak live... He was embarrassing enough at the G20. Promising to build a rail through Europe,  President Joe Biden outlined plans to create a rail and shipping corridor linking India with the Middle East.  I wonder if he remembers Congress holding the purse?

        And they are in no way going to give Big Bucks Joe any cash to build a rail on another continent.  I mean our own rail system is so bad we have witnessed derailments at a historic pace.  But, I say "Thanks Joe" Americans will love to hear you want to build a rail system in Africa, and now Europe to reach India and the Middle East. 

        Hopefully, he keeps up all his crazy.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          If you care about National Security it does.  I don't like it either and I doubt Biden does, but you have to do what is best for the country regardless of you personal beliefs. That is a lesson Trump never learned.

          "Historic pace"  More untrue hyperbole from the right, I see.
          According to federal records, trains derailed 1,164 times last year, and 1,095 times in 2021. But in 1979 railroads reported 7,482 derailments, and reported 6,442 in 1980.  -  You must admit that by that measure, Biden is doing a GREAT job regarding train derailments.

          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat … 479655002/

          BTW - are you falsely claiming America was going to build that railroad all by our lonesome?

  13. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    Fueled by a resurgent stock market and rising home values, US household wealth hit a record $154.3 trillion during the second quarter of this year, according to federal data.

    Consumer wealth has now completely recovered from the recent inflation-driven drop in stock prices and real estate holdings.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      US existing home sales slide again, but prices up from a ...

      Reuters
      https://www.reuters.com › markets › us-existing-home-sa...
      Aug 23, 2023 — The NAR predicted that total resales in 2023 will fall 12.9% from 2022, at the same time that total new home sales in 2023 will increase by 12.3

      Unfortunately Homes are just not selling..

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Good, that is the idea behind the Fed raising interest rates.  Means things are working as planned.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          So, are things really working as planned?  In my view, despite the seemingly positive economic statistics, you may want to consider many Americans find it increasingly challenging to make ends meet. It's a conundrum that deserves understanding, and not to be looked at lightly.

          On the surface, economic indicators paint a positive picture. Unemployment rates are now fluctuating, yet are doing better.  The stock market is doing well, and as you pointed out, GDP figures show growth. Yet, beneath this shiny picture of prosperity, the daily struggles of countless Americans persist, no matter what economic statistics indicate.

          For many, the concept of a flourishing economy remains somewhat unrecognizable, distant from their immediate realities. Many find themselves living week to week, navigating a financial tightrope that requires juggling bills, debts, and daily expenses. Some are even forced to rely on credit cards to bridge the ever-widening gap between income and monthly expenditure.

          One glaring issue is that you may not have considered -- widening gap between the wealthy and the rest of the population. While the stock market thrives, wage growth for the average American has been sluggish, failing to keep pace with rising living costs. The cost of living in America, including housing, healthcare, and education, continues to soar. For those whose incomes remain stagnant or have grown only marginally, these escalating expenses create an ever-mounting burden.  Many Americans have had to resort to accumulating personal debt to maintain their monthly output.

          A significant portion of the population lacks adequate savings to weather unexpected financial shocks. This vulnerability makes it even more challenging for individuals and families to navigate through tough times.

          While economic statistics provide a broad overview, they often fail to capture the nuanced struggles that individuals and families face daily.

          I disagree that things are working just fine.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            How many more Americans are finding it challenging than say in 2020?  Or 2008, or 2001, or in the 1970s, or in the 1930s.  You are simply wanting to blame Biden for something that is not his fault and how is that fair?

            A significant portion of Americans have ALWAYS lacked significant savings, so why put that on Biden?

            "Fail to capture individual struggles" - yes true, but what does that have to do with Biden.  People struggled individually even in the best of times.

            The ONLY time in American history when the general population did "well" if you want to call it that was after the WW II and before 1980.  Income inequality was horrible from 1910 to 1939, peaking in 1938.  Then came a period where the various quintiles did relatively will compared to each other. 
            t
            But then Reagan upset the apple cart with his tax cuts.  Inequality exploded in the 1980s and continued unabated until 2008.where it was worse than in 1938. It hit a new high in 2014 before falling back a bit again. Then in 2019, it hit that same high.  Finally, in 2020 and 2021, it fell way off due to the pandemic.

            In 2021, it began increasing again, and so far in 2023, it is still growing but is still lower than 2019.

            We need to get back to the way it was in the 1950s - 1970s.

            http://piketty.pse.ens.fr/files/capital … Tables.pdf
            https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SIPOVGINIUSA

  14. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 9 months ago

    Sept 13 2023   U.S. Inflation Accelerated in August as Gasoline Prices Jumped
    Even excluding food and energy, price gains picked up, a potentially worrisome sign for the path of inflation.  https://www.wsj.com/economy/august-cpi- … n-85936a0a

    1. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Why didn't you put it into context and point out that inflation declined for 13 STRAIGHT months in a row!?  And why didn't you offer that inflation had to increase sooner or later.  THAT is the headline and not the WSJ's hyperbolic word "jumped".

      1. Sharlee01 profile image89
        Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        There is no way to call this economy anything but bad. No matter how one spins it.

        1. Willowarbor profile image61
          Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Do people really expect that a president can enter a term at the height of a pandemic with all of the effects it had on the economy and just turn it around on a dime?   I'd say that the economy never turns on a dime.  Biden is making solid progress in very good time though.  I suppose one could also say that Trump should have shielded or buffered our economy much better when he had the chance to.  Unfortunately he had turned to election lies at that point and had lost all interest.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            When Trump concluded his presidency, the economy was good. However,  when Biden walked in within weeks, there was a noticeable downturn in our economic situation, which many economists attribute to what they perceive as poor decisions made by Biden. This economic decline has persisted for three years, leading to hardships for many Americans who are struggling to cope with rising prices. It's clear that there is a difference in opinion regarding the factors behind our economic challenges and why they persist.

            I don't feel the failed economy can be blamed on Trump.

            1. Willowarbor profile image61
              Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Actually, Trump left the economy in horrendous shape.  Trump ended his term with fewer jobs than when he started.
              Under Trump, the economy lost 2.9 million jobs.  Trump’s record on jobs is the worst in modern American history among presidents.
              Manufacturing jobs also decreased under The Trump administration. We
              saw the trade deficit  grow under his watch to the worst in recent history.
              The International Trade Deficit Increased 40.5% Under Trump. According to FactCheck.org, “The international trade deficit Trump promised to reduce went up. The U.S. trade deficit in goods and services in 2020 was the highest since 2008 and increased 40.5% from 2016.”
              U.S.  goods and services exports to China decreased by 20 billion dollars under Trump.
              Trump oversaw the largest annual drop dince 1947 According to FactCheck.org, “Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, the U.S. economy began slowing down. The real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product went up in Trump’s first two years, peaking at an estimated 2.9% in 2018 — the highest since 2005. But the economy grew only 2.3% in 2019 and the bottom fell out in 2020. The real GDP declined 3.4% in 2020 from the previous year. It was the largest drop since 1947.
              Under The Trump Administration, The Poverty Rate Increased for the first time after 5 Years Of declines. According to FactCheck.org, “As incomes decreased, the official poverty rate increased about 1% from 2019. It was at 11.4% in 2020, up from 10.5% in 2019. It was the first increase in the official poverty rate after five consecutive years of declines.
              During the Trump administration, The National Debt  grew by 50%, Or more than $7 Trillion. According to FactCheck.org, “Rather, the amount the federal government has borrowed from the public went up by 50% during Trump’s time in office — from $14.4 trillion on the day he was inaugurated to $21.6 trillion the day his successor was sworn in.”
              The price of oil rose 32% During Trump's last month In office. According to Forbes, “In the last three months of the Trump Administration, oil prices rose by 32% as demand bounced back.

              It goes on and on.. as Biden walked in on all of this, how on Earth could anyone expect that he could turn this around within weeks? Acknowledging the lengthy period of time involved in any new legislation, how do you feel that a president can enter their  term and even within the first year affect change?
              It does feel like many will give slack to Trump due to covid but Biden was expected on day one to make everything glorious.  How does that work?

              https://trumpresearchbook.com/en/home/t … ts/economy

              1. Credence2 profile image78
                Credence2posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                How does that work?

                It doesn't.......

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  It works only in the brainwashed minds (because their neural network has been damaged by right-wing and Trump's rhetoric) of those suffering from BDS and hate Biden with a passion,

              2. Sharlee01 profile image89
                Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                It's essential to approach discussions about the Trump economy with a realistic and truthful perspective. It's evident that during a year when the country faced nearly complete shutdowns, the Trump administration managed to contain inflation and keep the cost of living relatively stable. The job losses experienced were primarily a result of the COVID-19 pandemic and the ensuing shutdowns. Before the pandemic hit, our economy was flourishing, and I can personally attest that it was one of the most robust economies I've ever seen.

                I find it ridiculous to use any stats after COVID hit. 
                https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-happe … 1602713077

                "The Verdict on Trump’s Economic Stewardship, Before Covid and After
                By Jon Hilsenrath
                The unemployment rate fell from 4.7% shortly after Trump’s election to 3.5% by the end of 2019, below Federal Reserve expectations of about 4.5%. That was partly driven by Trump’s corporate and individual income-tax cuts and a February 2018 bill that reset spending caps Republicans had demanded in the Obama era. When the coronavirus struck, the economic damage from social distancing and states’ shutdowns helped to drive the jobless rate to 14.7% in April this year. The rate fell faster than the Fed expected, reaching 7.9% in September, but the jobs recovery is far from complete. Five million more people were unemployed in September than when Trump took office.

                2. The growth rate rose, but not as expected.
                Trump’s first budget in 2017 projected that the growth rate under his policies would pick up to 3% by 2020 and stay there. During the expansion under Trump’s predecessor, Barack Obama, gross domestic product grew at an average annual rate of 2.25%. It picked up to a 2.5% rate over Trump’s first three years in office, according to Commerce Department figures. With the onset of the pandemic, growth went haywire as states shut down local economies and then reopened at different paces. A majority of private-sector economists surveyed by The Wall Street Journal this month estimated the gears of the economy wouldn’t be turning fully again until late 2021 or later.

                3. Gains for minority workers were reversed.
                During Trump’s first three years in office, median household incomes grew, inequality diminished, and the poverty rate among Black people fell below 20% for the first time in post-World War II records. The unemployment rate among Black people went under 6% for the first time in records going back to 1972. Minorities and low-skill workers tend to do best late in expansions as the jobless rate falls, but they also tend to be hit first in downturns when some firms dismiss the most recently hired. By September, the Black unemployment rate was 12.1%, reversing all of the gains achieved since 2014. The jobless rate for high-school graduates with no college was 9%, reversing the gains since 2011.

                4. Blue collar jobs were hit hard by Covid-19.
                Trump’s trade policies, most notably tariffs on imports, were aimed at helping blue-collar towns hurt by competition from China, Mexico and other low-wage countries. After decades of declines, manufacturing employment began a modest rise in 2010 and extended those gains under Trump. But the Covid-19 crisis knocked manufacturing employment back down to levels comparable to the 1940s."

                It is very important to not blame Trump for what the pandemic did to our economy. When considering Biden's economy it is important to realize his policies, and agenda have worsened our economy. His overspending, and poor decision-making have caused our economy to suffer, in my view.

                1. Willowarbor profile image61
                  Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  It is very important to not blame Trump for what the pandemic did to our economy.

                  Yet Biden entered office at the height of a still raging pandemic with its multitude of  consequences still unfurling and he is literally criticized on day one for not turning everything on a dime. It seems as though equal standards are not being applied. We can't blame Trump for the economic effects of the pandemic but that logic doesn't even come into play when talking about Biden?.  The multiple and complex effects from the pandemic are completely overlooked and ignored in Biden's case.  Is the idea that somehow the impacts of the pandemic would cease to exist when Biden entered the office? 
                  If we are going to evaluate anything  we have to use the same measures.
                  Our economic recovery actually has been pretty historic as compared to other advanced economies around the world.

                  1. wilderness profile image94
                    wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    The pandemic did not give away a trillion dollars, increasing demand without increasing supply.  And did it after it had already been done once.  Once we could (and did) weather; twice was too much and we're still paying the price for it.  Of course, the actual money given out will have to be paid back by our grandchildren...

                    The pandemic did not shut down businesses all over the country, decreasing supply without decreasing demand.

                    The pandemic did not give away huge sums of "unemployment insurance" money, often more than the person was earning, encouraging people to stay home even after the pandemic was over.

                    The pandemic did not declare that no rent was owed by anyone, leaving landlords unable to pay their loans.

                    I could go on, but these things were done by a man.  Want to guess who?

                2. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  " It's evident that during a year when the country faced nearly complete shutdowns, the Trump administration managed to contain inflation and keep the cost of living relatively stable." - You know as well as I do that that is not true. Trump did absolutely nothing to keep inflation in check.  Inflation was NOT going to happen until production picked up - and that didn't happen until the Biden administration. Yes, it is essential to approach the conversation with a reliability and truthfulness.

                  Before the pandemic hit, our was no better than under Obama and was the same as it is now.

                  "The unemployment rate fell from 4.7% shortly after Trump’s election to 3.5% by the end of 2019" - [i]Is that the same as saying the unemployment rate fell from 6.3% shortly after Biden's election to 3.5% by the end of 2022 and then it fell to 3.4%, a fifty or sixty year low.
                  ?

                  "That was partly driven by Trump’s corporate and individual income-tax cuts " - What those cuts did was balloon the debt and deficit and others disagree with the impact on jobs

                  "On December 22, 2017, President Donald Trump signed into law the so-called Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA), a $1.9 trillion tax bill favoring corporations and wealthy Americans. At its heart is a large cut in the corporate tax rate. “Corporations are literally going wild over this,” Trump said upon signing the bill. He predicted that the corporate tax cut would cause a boom in business investment and that factories are “not going to be abandoned any longer.” His White House, meanwhile, estimated that the corporate tax cuts would trickle down to workers in the form of a $4,000 annual raise. Two years later, however, business investment is actually declining. Factory closings and mass layoffs have not ended. Wage growth is tepid, despite the continuation of the economic expansion that began 10 years ago, and gross domestic product (GDP) growth is slowing and projected to revert to its long-term trend or below.  https://www.americanprogress.org/articl … g-winners/

                  Fortunately, Biden's policies and agenda greatly improved the economy.

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              "within weeks, there was a noticeable downturn in our economic situation," - An unsupported opinion not based in reality.

              "which many economists attribute to what they perceive as poor decisions made by Biden" - a patently false statement since the economy had no chance to do anything in that span of time from anything Biden did. If it went down (which it did not) it would have been Trump's decision-making that would be responsible.  Be logical.

              "This economic decline has persisted for three years, " - AGAIN, an unsupported opinion resulting from a serious case of BDS.

              " It's clear that there is a difference in opinion regarding the factors behind our economic challenges and why they persist." - While there is a difference between your unsupported opinion, it is because economists base their opinion on objective FACTS

              "I don't feel the failed economy can be blamed on Trump." -I don't feel that way either - because the economy has not failed after Biden led the recovery from the pandemic.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                It's unfortunate so many economists do not agree with you.

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  Name me some that don't have a partisan agenda.  I have already provided you bank economists.  Apparently, you don't think they know what they are talking about.

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                    Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    Over the past year, I have offered many. There is no shortage of more jumping on that bandwagon.

                      Larry Summers slams Biden's economic agenda as ‘increasingly dangerous’ CNN Business
                    Wed July 26, 2023  ---   https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/26/business … index.html

                    "Larry Summers, the former Obama and Clinton official, slammed parts of President Joe Biden’s economic agenda as “increasingly dangerous” this week, saying it could end up causing higher prices for Americans.

                    “I am profoundly concerned by the doctrine of manufacturing-centered economic nationalism that is increasingly put forth as a general principle to guide policy,” Summers said on Tuesday while speaking virtually at an event held by the Peterson Institute for International Economics.

                    Specifically, Summers took issue with the administration’s trade stance, efforts to prop up US manufacturing and its antitrust crackdown. The former Harvard president argued this approach could prove to be inflationary.

                    “It is wrong to suppose that manufacturing-based economic nationalism is a route to higher incomes or better standards of living for the middle class,” Summers said.

                    “Bidenomics is a fundamental break from trickle-down economics, which underinvested in the American people and our competitiveness,” White House spokesperson Michael Kikukawa told CNN in a statement in response to the Summers criticism. “The pandemic and Russia’s war in Ukraine made clear that supply chains and critical resources can be easily disrupted, hurting consumers, workers, and the entire economy.”

                    The White House spokesperson added that Biden’s investments in infrastructure, clean energy, and semiconductors “are not just creating new factories and jobs, they are making our economy more resilient.”

                    Sept 12 , 2023 NBC news   --     Inflation ticks upward to 3.7% as the Fed's fight to tame high consumer prices rolls on

                    Annual inflation has risen two months in a row after 12 straight months of decline.
                    "Prices for U.S. consumers grew 3.7% in August compared to a year ago as gasoline prices spiked, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

                    Inflation was about equal to expert projections, and prices rose at a faster pace than the previous month. On a month-over-month basis, the inflation rate rose by 0.6%, compared to 0.2% in July.

                    Economists had expected the data to show a 3.6% overall increase in inflation compared to a year ago. Annual inflation has now ticked up two months in a row after 12 consecutive months of decline.

                    Core inflation, a measurement of cost increases that removes energy and food prices because of their volatility, rose 4.3%. That, too, matched estimates from experts."
                    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/econom … rcna104655

          2. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            "... dime?" - obviously MAGA has those unrealistic expectations.

            I give Trump a break by not blaming most of the bad effects of the pandemic on him (although he did help a lot to make it worse than it ought to have been).  Too bad the MAGA Biden-haters can't do the same.

        2. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          There is no way to call this economy bad, no matter how MAGA wants to spin it.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            No need to spin anything... Americans are living with Biden's poor job performance.  One can offer all the stats they please, at the end of the month, Americans are realizing they can't pay their bills.

            Just a fact...

  15. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 9 months ago

    CNN poll ---   Most Democratic voters wish they had an alternative to Biden
    A broad 67% majority of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters now say it’s very or extremely likely that Biden will again be the party’s presidential nominee, up from 55% who felt that way in May. But 67% also say the party should nominate someone other than Biden – up from 54% in March, though still below the high of 75% who said they were seeking an alternative last summer.

    Record low share of Americans say Biden inspires confidence
    Views of Biden’s performance in office and on where the country stands are deeply negative in the new poll. His job approval rating stands at just 39%, and 58% say that his policies have made economic conditions in the US worse, up 8 points since last fall. Seventy percent say things in the country are going badly, a persistent negativity that has held for much of Biden’s time in office, and 51% say government should be doing more to solve the nation’s problems.

    Hear Biden's message to Americans concerned about his age and reelection
    Perceptions of Biden personally are also broadly negative, with 58% saying they have an unfavorable impression of him. Fewer than half of Americans, 45%, say that Biden cares about people like them, with only

    Roughly three-quarters of Americans say they’re seriously concerned that Biden’s age might negatively affect his current level of physical and mental competence (73%), and his ability to serve out another full term if reelected (76%), with a smaller 68% majority seriously concerned about his ability to understand the next generation’s concerns (that stands at 72% among those younger than 65, but just 57% of those 65 or older feel the same).
    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/07/politics … index.html

    Are you in agreement with the majority in regard to Biden's Job performance, and likeability, and do you hope for an alternative as the majority of Democrats do?  Or do you feel you are comfortable being in the minority?

    1. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, I agree that I am in the majority of Democrats who think Biden's job performance is good.  I agree I am in the majority of college graduates who approve of Biden's job performance. 

      Here are some other telling results from that survey. (Remember, the OBJECTIVE evidence is more than overwhelming that he did.)

      Q: Did Biden Legitimately Win in 2020

      -- Non-College Graduates: 46% say NO (as compared to 24% of college graduates.  That says a lot about how education improves one's perception of reality.)

      - White Non-College Graduates: an unimaginable 51% think Biden's win was illegitimate!!  Compare that to White College Graduates: 26%. See how much education helps in combating brainwashing?

      Money makes a difference to.  41% of those who earn less than $50K say Biden's win is illegitimate compared to only 36% earning more than $50K.

      Only 7% of Democrats and 37% of Independents say Biden didn't win, yet a whopping 71% of Republicans are that delusional. (I suspect the 7% of Ds are made of conservatives and disaffected Sanders voters while the 37% of Independents are right-leaning.  Why are Republicans such outliers?

      1. Sharlee01 profile image89
        Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        perhaps you missed this in te article ---  Record low share of Americans say Biden inspires confidence
        Views of Biden’s performance in office and on where the country stands are deeply negative in the new poll. His job approval rating stands at just 39%, and 58% say that his policies have made economic conditions in the US worse, up 8 points since last fall. 

        Not sure about your line of questioning --- I never disputed that Bidens won... In no respect.

        I am pleased to see that I am not alone in my thoughts that Biden should not run for president.   ---    Washington Post columnist David Ignatius says Biden should not run for reelection

        A top Washington Post columnist has joined the fray of pundits calling on President Biden to step aside and not seek reelection.

        I very much respect Ignatius

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Maybe you missed my response which pointed out that those trained to analyze what they see and hear understand that the OPINION on this subject by "most" Americans is misguided.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Once more, I'd like to point out the polling data on President Biden's performance. A significant majority of the American populace disagrees with your evaluation of his job performance. Furthermore, a noteworthy majority of Democrats believe he is of advanced age and express a desire to explore alternative candidates.

  16. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    Americans feel America has been on the wrong track since Jun 9, 2009 when it split 46.3 to 46.5.  Since then, it has been on the wrong track to varying degrees since then.

    * The worst was a 59.5 point spread on Oct 15, 2011.
    * The worst Trump year was a 45.4 spread on Aug 20, 2020
    * The worst Biden year so far is a 59.1 spread on July 4, 2022
    * Besides Jun 9, 2009, the best Obama year was Nov 19, 2012 with an 11.8 spread.
    * The best Trump year was a 13.1 spread on March 9, 2017
    * The best Biden years so far is a May 9, 2021 with a 6 point spread.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epoll … y-902.html

  17. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 9 months ago

    Washington Post columnist David Ignatius says Biden should not run for reelection

    A top Washington Post columnist has joined the fray of pundits calling on President Biden to step aside and not seek reelection.

    David Ignatius, a foreign affairs columnist for The Washington Post, wrote in a column published Tuesday that Biden has built a strong legacy of accomplishments during his first few years in office, citing America’s return to the world stage and legislative victories for Democrats. He also wrote that Biden has delivered on his pledge to govern from the center.

    ( OH MY)  “In sum, he has been a successful and effective president,” Ignatius wrote.

    “But I don’t think Biden and Vice President Harris should run for reelection. It’s painful to say that, given my admiration for much of what they have accomplished,” Ignatius continued. “But if he and Harris campaign together in 2024, I think Biden risks undoing his greatest achievement — which was stopping Trump.”

    Ignatius suggested Biden’s age is a liability heading into 2024, citing recent polling that shows a majority of voters believe the president’s age is an issue when it comes to serving a second term. Biden is 80 and would be 86 at the end of a possible second term.

    The columnist and occasional novelist argued that, as a result of Biden’s age, voters may focus more on Vice President Harris, who he noted carries a favorability rating around 40 percent.

    He wrote that Biden “has never been good at saying no,” arguing that he should have “resisted” picking Harris as his vice president over someone like then-Rep. Karen Bass (D-Calif.). Ignatius also said the now-president should have stopped his son, Hunter Biden, from joining the board of a Ukrainian energy company, which has become fodder for GOP attacks and investigations.

    “Biden has another chance to say no — to himself, this time — by withdrawing from the 2024 race,” Ignatius wrote. “It might not be in character for Biden, but it would be a wise choice for the country.”

    Biden has already announced a reelection campaign for 2024, and he and his aides have shown no indication that he is reconsidering. The president and his team have repeatedly brushed aside questions about his age from journalists and some elected officials, arguing that the president’s record of accomplishments and his ability to do the job on a day-to-day basis speaks for itself.

    The White House this week pushed back hard against what it viewed as an unfair media fixation on Biden’s age following his five-day trip to Asia, which was capped with a press conference in Vietnam at the end of a day that began with meetings in India.

    Top Democrats have rallied behind Biden as the party’s candidate heading into 2024, and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) has backed the incumbent, effectively quelling any potential primary challenge.

    1. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      And that is his opinion.  Biden is vigorous, sharp, and experienced and fully capable of serving another four years.

      Trump, on the other hand, is a failed president who only thinks of himself and faces 91 felony charges, been twice impeached, rejected by a lot in 2020, and is a convicted rapist.  He is clearly unfit for the office yet Brainwashed MAGA wants him anyway.  Puzzling.

      1. GA Anderson profile image88
        GA Andersonposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        You say Pres. Biden is currently vigorous and sharp . . .

        Someone could have a field day posting YouTube clips disputing that statement.

        GA

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I don't form my opinion on looks as some others do (books and covers thing) but by his actions.  Only a vigorous and sharp individual could keep up the pace Biden just displayed at the G-20 and Vietnam and Alaska.

  18. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 9 months ago

    More weaponization from this administration ---  This seems like a very communist thing to do...

    "A multi-decade, senior-level, current Agency officer has come forward to provide information to the Committees regarding the Agency’s analysis into the origins of COVID-19,"

    FIRST ON FOX: A CIA whistleblower told Congress that the agency offered officials on a team investigating COVID-19 origins "significant monetary incentive" to change their positions, from that it originated out of a leak from the Wuhan lab to "unable to determine" the origins, Fox News Digital has learned.

    Fox News Digital obtained letters House Coronavirus Subcommittee Chairman Brad Wenstrup and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Turner sent to the CIA and a former official.

    "The Select Committee on the Coronavirus Pandemic and the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence have received new and concerning whistleblower testimony regarding the Agency’s investigation into the origins of COVID-19," Wenstrup and Turner wrote to CIA Director William Burns Tuesday.

    "A multi-decade, senior-level, current Agency officer has come forward to provide information to the Committees regarding the Agency’s analysis into the origins of COVID-19," they wrote.

    The whistleblower told Congress that the CIA assigned seven officers to a COVID Discovery Team, which consisted of "multi-disciplinary and experienced officers with significant scientific expertise."

    "According to the whistleblower, at the end of its review, six of the seven members of the Team believed that intelligence and science were sufficient to make a low confidence assessment that COVID-19 originated from a laboratory in Wuhan, China," Wenstrup and Turner wrote.

    "The seventh member of the Team, who also happened to be the most senior, was the one officer to believe COVID-19 originated through zoonosis."

    "The whistleblower further contends that to come to the eventual public determination of uncertainty, the other six members were given a significant monetary incentive to change their position," they said.

    Wenstrup and Turner said the allegations come from "a seemingly credible source," and requires the committees to conduct further oversight of "how the CIA handled its internal investigation into the origins of COVID-19."

    The CIA denied the charges

    CIA spokesperson Tammy Kupperman Thorp said: "At CIA we are committed to the highest standards of analytic rigor, integrity, and objectivity.  We do not pay analysts to reach specific conclusions.  We take these allegations extremely seriously and are looking into them.  We will keep our Congressional oversight committees appropriately informed."

    A CIA official says analysts are often given bonuses for work already completed, not to reach certain conclusions.

    The lawmakers set a deadline of Sept. 26, 2023 for the CIA to turn over all records regarding the establishment of the COVID Discovery Teams; records regarding communications from those teams; all documents and records involving CIA communications with all members of federal government agencies including the FBI, State Department, Health and Human Services, Energy Department and more.

    FBI DIRECTOR SAYS COVID PANDEMIC 'MOST LIKELY' ORIGINATED FROM CHINESE LAB

    The lawmakers are also asking for documents and communications regarding "the pay history, to include the awarding of any type of financial or performance-based incentive/financial bonus to members of all iterations of the COVID Discovery Teams.

    Please read on    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistl … id-origins

    1. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      This is lying Fox you are referencing.  Find a reliable source that says the same thing.

      1. Sharlee01 profile image89
        Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this
        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          OK, thank you for providing reliable sources. Now, let's consider what you say about the reliability of UNNAMED informants such as this one. If I recall correctly, you don't believe a word they say.  Why are you believing this one?

          I am now in a wait and see mode while the "allegations" are investigated.  I would also point out that no one will ever know for sure where covid originated from until the Chinese fesses up.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            I have never shared I do not believe in whistleblowers. I respect that they need anonymity in today's violent climate. When you make such an outward accusation you need to give a quote or it could be considered a personal insult.  Hopefully, you can provide a quote, and I certainly will apologize if I am wrong.

            The fact stands this person is reputable, is currently working for the CIA, and has given an interview under oath. I have no reason to think he is not being truthful... He has involved six other employees whom he claims were also involved with this issue.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              No, you have often said "unnamed sources are not credible" or words to that effect when the information is about Trump.  Why do you find THIS unnamed source credible when it is about Biden and you don't when it is about Trump.  (And yes, I will spend the time one night going back and looking for examples.)

              Now, this isn't about whether I think he is telling the truth, he probably is (but without seeing the actual testimony, we don't know if the Republicans aren't twisting the facts as they have been caught doing in the past).  But that is not the issue here.  The issue is treating one unnamed source differently than an different unnamed source when the subject is different.

  19. Sharlee01 profile image89
    Sharlee01posted 9 months ago

    Confused or lying you tell me? In my view, confused and unfortunately showing symptoms of being delusional. It is clear this kind of untrue storytelling has become more evident. Is this really a man that should be our president? This is not the first time he claimed this, sadly he has been telling this story for a long time.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUOlnv1fj7w
    Yesterday he once again told this ridiculous story
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-tWq1um__o

    "President Joe Biden made a bizarre claim in a speech that he'd taught political theory at an Ivy League university - despite only serving there as a visiting fellow and honorary professor.

    Biden, at 80, the nation's oldest-ever president, was speaking at Prince George Community College in Maryland Thursday for an economic address he meant to contrast what he calls 'Bidenomics' with the police of predecessor Donald Trump.

    At one point, however, the president turned his speech to a common theme, that Democracy is 'under attack' when he suddenly discussed his time at the University of Pennsylvania.

    'We got to fight for it,' Biden said. ''I taught at the University of Pennsylvania for four years and I used to teach political theory. And folks, you always hear, every generation has to fight for Democracy.'

    However, while Biden served from 2017 to 2019 as the Benjamin Franklin Presidential Professor of the Practice, there is no record of him teaching classes.

    It is his latest stretch of the truth and comes days after the White House dodged whether the president was 'making things up"
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl … r-lie.html

    1. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      "It is clear this kind of untrue storytelling has become more evident." - No, it is not becoming MORE clear, in my opinion, he has been telling the same stories for years.  Consequently, I don't see how that shows signs of dementia.  I think how he has responded to the various crises around the world and in America shows clear-eyed thinking and a sharp, analytical mind.  I try very hard to not judge a book by its cover.  It also amazes me how one can build a crises over something so insignificant as to whether a story is remembered correctly.

      Finally, why didn't you chastise Trump in a similar fashion when he lied about things big and small? Why are you only picking on Biden?

      1. Sharlee01 profile image89
        Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Biden in my view, is a confused man. And in regard to responding to any crisis... He made a mess of COVID vaccine delivery and testing. He Killed Americans due to not listening to his military advisors when pulling out of Afghanistan, he has us in a proxy war with Russia, he has a wide-open border, that not is causing huge problems for Democratic
        sanctuary cities, and he has released Iran cash to bring home hostages, that they can possibly use for untoward purposes.  He has alienated OPEC and our own oil industries.  And he has unleashed more drugs into America... That's not all, but enough.

        How in the world could you defend the man? He has made a mess of everything he touched.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          You are certainly entitled to your view, regardless of its truthfulness.

          "He made a mess of COVID vaccine delivery and testing. " - That is simply not factual. In REALITY, he rolled out the vaccination program very efficiently and effectively saving countless lives. It was Trump who screwed up the delivery; Biden had to fix it.  Also, vaccination and testing are two separate animals.  I don't know of any decision that was improperly made based on the evidence known at the time which "screwed" up the testing program.  What were the ramifications. Can you point me to the information you have that drew you to that conclusion?

          Trump killed orders of magnitude more people by not listening to his military and health advisors.  I disagreed with Trump's decision to pull out of Afghanistan; I really disagreed with Trump's decision to cave into the Taliban; I disagreed with Biden deciding he had to abide by the agreement Trump made; and I disagreed with Biden's decision to pull out the way he did, but he has more knowledge than I had.

          How do you know the military advised him to stay?  Were you in on the discussions or did they testify that they told Biden not to withdraw?  I don't think you have any possible way to know that Biden was not "listening to his military advisors when pulling out of Afghanistan,"

          " he has us in a proxy war with Russia" - so now you are blaming BIden for Putin invading Ukraine.  Unbelievable!!!

          "he has a wide-open border, " - Then Trump had a wide-open border (but you never blamed HIM for it) because Biden has essentially not changed much of what Trump did except get rid of the more inhumane Trump policies.  THAT is the real world

          "and he has released Iran cash to bring home hostages" - Why don't I send that comment to the families of the hostages in Iran which you want to leave there since you disagree with how Biden is bringing (hopefully) them home.  Why didn't you mention that there are serious strings attached to that cash in the way it can be spent?

          OPEC and our oil industries were ripping you off.  I hope you enjoyed it.

          "And he has unleashed more drugs into America... " - What policies, specially, did he implement that resulted in that outcome?  I don't expect an answer because there are no such policies.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Yes, I have a right to my opinion, and your comment makes little to no sense in regard to facts.

  20. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    Analysis:

    Economists think inflation will keep on cooling.  It seems that last months "jump" in inflation was a bit misleading when you get to the rest of the story.

    While the "headline" rate, which includes volatile products such as food and energy, did rise a bit (but still below historical averages I think), the "core" inflation, which is everything elhttps://www.cnn.com/2023/09/17/economy/stocks-week-ahead-inflation-outlook/index.htmlse we buy FELL by almost the same points.

    Notice that neither of those are the "chained" index.

    Apparently "shelter" inflation, rents and things, which compose a large chuck of the CPI index are finally decelerating and might actually get cheaper in the coming months.  One can hope.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/17/economy/ … index.html

    1. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

      1.  Core inflation is not a measure of "everything" (if I understood your comment); it removes food and energy from the marketbasket.  It was interesting to see that inflation is greater for core goods than for food and energy even as those two items (particularly energy) spiked with a huge increase.

      2.  How do you know the article was not using chained CPI to get the numbers?  It does not specify, so how do you know, given that the "chained" figure is the one most often used today?  How can you tell, from the article, how long the items have been in the basket without reviewing them?

      1. Sharlee01 profile image89
        Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

        So well said ---

        I think Americans can just have a look at their expenditure to realize what is occurring. I doubt that we have a majority that will buy into what the White House is dishing out -- when they are most possibly dishing up lots of hamburgers to feed their families.

        Yes, there will be a small minority that can look at some lipstick-on-a-pig stats... I mean the polls tell all.  The dumbing down is coming to an abrupt halt.

        https://hubstatic.com/16717930.jpg

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          "is occurring" - Shouldn't the correct phrase be "has occurred", in order to not put bias into the statement?  It is not occurring anymore

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            I shared my view, and actually, inflation has risen in regard to the latest stat.

            MY COMMENT ---  Please note full context note important words, "look at their expenditures  "    CONTEXT matters ---       I think Americans can just have a look at their expenditure to realize what is occurring. I doubt that we have a majority that will buy into what the White House is dishing out -- when they are most possibly dishing up lots of hamburgers to feed their families
            .   
            FOOD prices are still up gas prices currently rising. Yes, we are still living in a poor economy in regard to our costs of living. And my comment very clearly spoke of this problem. They are not looking at stats just costs.

            "What is the August 2023 CPI?
            Headline Consumer Price Index (CPI) inflation was 0.6 percent in August and 3.7 percent over the past year. Both of these rates were a step up from recent inflation reports, and the main factor behind the jump was the August increase in the price of retail gasoline."

            MY POINT Americans could care less about stats --- They are paying more out of pocket to live.

            Please check polls on what Americans feel about the Economy.

            They speak loudly, louder than you, and I am with them..

            And the context of my comment is correct --- Inflation is still with us and headed in the wrong direction. The polls show what is OCCURRING is Americans' dissatisfaction with the Biden economy.

            CNN  ---    "More than half of U.S. adults believe President Biden’s policies are making the economy worse, according to a new poll.

            The CNN poll, released Thursday and conducted by SSRS, found 58 percent of U.S. adults surveyed believe Biden’s policies have worsened economic conditions in the country, in comparison to 24 percent who believe his policies improved economic conditions. Eighteen percent said the president’s policies had no effect on the country’s economic conditions."
            https://thehill.com/homenews/administra … omy-worse/
            https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … dependents

            What polls indicate shows your view is shared by a small minority.

            1. Willowarbor profile image61
              Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              In terms of what the polls show and the disregard of stats;
              I see this from a different perspective.

              Can someone with an average IQ understand complex political and economic issues? 

              But to truly understand the web of interconnected cause and effect that can result from a seemingly simple political policy, or to truly grasp economics beyond comparing it only to one’s own individual and current condition?

              No, I do not believe that the average person is truly capable of that. A little more than half of American adults have a literacy level around the 6th grade.   When I see a poll regarding complex issues, I take it with the grain of salt.  As a result, I'm more than happy to remain in the minority.

              Probably an unpopular opinion but I own it.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                "Is it necessary for the average person to grasp intricate political and economic matters?

                From my perspective, not necessarily. Their perspective on the economy often revolves around how it impacts their daily lives. In the grand scheme of things, they might not be overly concerned with statistics or the actions of individuals. What matters most to them are the outcomes, and many Americans may not be particularly interested in the extensive discussions or promises being made.

                Should every American be expected to delve into the intricacies of the economy?"

                The concept of what is called "voting one's pocketbook" is an old one. And as a rule, if a president fails at keeping one's pocketbook full they lose.

                1. Willowarbor profile image61
                  Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  "Should every American be expected to delve into the intricacies of the economy?"

                  Only if they want an  accurate understanding of its principles,  how it works, it's cycles, what impacts it and what doesn't.  That seems to be more accurate in my opinion. More so than simply saying I'm paying more for beef this week so I'm going to blame the guy who's sitting in the White House.  I suppose it's to the politicians advantage that Americans look for quick, direct, binary and simple answers rather than a comprehensive understanding. We all know full well that many of these politicians completely understand economics inside and out.
                  People let them off the hook when they resort to simplistic explanations for the economy.  If they were better educated they would  understand that Presidents get a lot of the blame and take a lot of the credit for the economy. But, the president's ability to impact the economy is generally indirect and marginal. Congress sets tax rates, passes spending bills, and writes laws regulating the economy. Not to mention the impact of the FED who is totally independent.

                  If people understood the following,, politicians would lose a lot of their ability to use the economy as a cudgel:
                  https://bigthink.com/the-present/5-reas … l-economy/

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                    There is this aspect as well.  Because they are making judgments based on their gut and a limited set of inputs, they are not capable of making "informed" decisions - such as who to vote for.  Chances are high they will vote for some Demagogue who whispers sweet nothings in their ear - i.e. Trump.

                    Our founding fathers worst nightmare were Demagogues like Trump.

                    Washington wrote Lafayette, on June 6, 1787, explaining that his critical purpose in attending the convention was to prevent a demagogue from gaining power in the politically unstable young nation and thus destroying it. We are seeing what he meant today in MAGA.

                    Elbridge Gerry said “Demagogues are the great pests of our government and have occasioned most of our distresses.” Gerry further described demagogues as “pretended patriots,” unprincipled politicians who steer the people toward “baneful measures” through “false reports.”  Doesn't that sound familiar with MAGA.

                    James Madison of Virginia twice alluded to “the danger of demagogues.”

                    Alexander Hamilton must have had Trump in mind when he wrote in Federalist No.1 that “History will teach us that ... of those men who have overturned the liberties of republics, the greatest number have begun their career by paying an obsequious court to the people; commencing demagogues, and ending tyrants.”

                    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2 … n-hamilton

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                Even people with above average IQs may have problems understanding political and the economic issues unless they have been trained in it.

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              The fact that people "believe" something to be true doesn't make it true.  In the case of the economy, that is exactly what is happening.  The people aren't feeling the improvement yet (as well as being deluged by right-wing propaganda) but the experts say the economy is currently healthy and doing better than expected.  I prefer to listen to educated opinions rather than the opinions of uneducated (in economics) Americans about the health of the economy.

              Bottom line - opinion polls about the economy may or may not reflect reality.  Occasionally they line up, often they don't.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                What is wrong with you? I never implied    ---" The fact that people "believe" something to be true doesn't make it true. "

                I just offer the sentiments that are showing up in the polls. And claimed you are in a minority in that respect.  Botto lone Americans are not interested in cute words "Bidenonmi's" or being told all is well. Because as far as the greater majority of Americans are feeling inflation in their everyday lives.

                Listen to whomever you please. The polls tell me Americans could care very little about what economists say.

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Try again after you remove the link I accidentally inserted between the "el" and "se" of ELSE. My apologies for making it so confusing.

        How do I know?  Because it didn't name it.  You have Headline, Core, and Chained.  They only talked about Headline and Core.

        As to working out the way it did, just think about the dynamics and do the math.

        The baseline is last year.  That index is made of Core plus non-Core.   The August 2022 Headline rate was 3.2%.  That is an average of Core and non-Core, right?  So, if Core in 2022 was 4.7, then (assuming equal weighting which I know it is not but is immaterial to this analysis) non-Core must be 1.7%, right?

        OK, in 2023, Core was 4.3% while Headline was 3.7%.  That must mean non-Core increased to 2.1%.

        That, I believe, is how the math works.

  21. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    The five American wrongfully detained in Iran are on their way to the Tehran airport.  Is that a collective sound of booing and hissing coming from the MAGA right?  Apparently, they are upset that President Biden arranged their release using embargoed Iranian money with strict strings on what could be bought with it attached.  SAD

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/politics … index.html

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      Paying ransom for citizens held in rough nations may seem like a tempting option, but it comes with several significant negatives: Paying ransom often ends up financing criminal or terrorist organizations, providing a terrorist Nation with the resources to carry out more kidnappings, more violence, and other illicit activities. Biden's deal may work to perpetuate the cycle of criminality and pose a long-term threat to global security.

      These forms of ransom payments create an incentive for more kidnappings. Kidnappers see it as a lucrative business, leading to more abductions of innocent individuals, which, in turn, puts more lives at risk in the long run.



      Paying ransom undermines the rule of law and encourages lawlessness. It sends a message that governments are willing to negotiate with criminals, which can embolden criminal groups to engage in more acts of violence and hostage-taking.

      Ransom payments enrich the kidnappers, allowing them to expand their operations and become more sophisticated. This can lead to a proliferation of criminal enterprises and terrorist organizations.



      Paying ransom can strain diplomatic relations between countries. Governments that pay ransoms may be seen as cooperating with criminal elements or indirectly supporting terrorism, leading to distrust and potential retaliation from other nations.



      Some individuals who are released through ransom payments such as prisoner exchange, the criminal may likely return to criminal activities, and pose a danger to society in general

      While the immediate goal of securing the release of hostages is understandable, paying ransom to rough nations carries serious negative consequences that can impact global security and encourage criminal and terrorist activities.

      In my view, once again Biden has shown a propensity for weakness and poor decision making.

      1. Willowarbor profile image61
        Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        Here's the rest of the deal.

        "Biden agreed to help Iran gain access to $6 billion in Iranian oil assets that had been held in a restricted account in South Korea as incentive for Tehran to conduct the swap. Sources familiar with the complex diplomatic deal told CBS News that the billions in oil revenue were being transferred through European banks in the form of euros to a restricted account in Qatar. The Biden administration has repeatedly said the U.S. Treasury will continue to monitor the account in Qatar and restrict the use of funds for solely humanitarian purposes.
        Senior administration officials reiterated Sunday night that the funds are "severely restricted" and are being funneled through "trusted" banks with the "full cooperation" of the Qatari government. 
        The money, which was paid by South Korea to Iran years ago for oil and subsequently frozen, is only to be used for humanitarian purposes and is limited to food, medicine, medical devices and agricultural products, a senior administration official said. They stressed that it is not U.S. taxpayer money and no funds will go directly to Iranian companies or entities. If Iran tries to divert the money, the U.S. will take action to "lock up" the funds, the official said."

        This agreement has broader implications for U.S.-Iranian relations. It is not as simplistic as having paid a ransom.  In the world of global politics, matters are seldom as simple or straightforward as they may appear.   The prisoner swap will go well beyond getting imprisoned U.S. citizens out of Iran and releasing frozen Iranian oil funds for humanitarian reasons. It may well be the basis for making sure that Iran will refrain from attacking American troops, endangering international shipping lines and arming Russia for its war in Ukraine.

        Most importantly, the prisoner swap might be a decisive step for the West in reaching a new informal nuclear limitation agreement with Iran. This would stabilize the entire Middle East by preventing an Israeli attack on Iran if Iran were to further develop a nuclear bomb.  In my view, Biden it's quite forward thinking in this move and he is extremely adept at foreign policy.  I think it's fair to say that Biden has a broader political strategy in mind.

        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-relea … oner-swap/

        1. wilderness profile image94
          wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I could (easily) be mistaken, but I think I saw an interview with the Iranian VIP.  When asked what he would use those funds for he made it very, very clear that it was their money and would be spent as they want to.

          I any case it's a forlorn hope that the funds won't go into war materials, including nuclear.  All Iran would have to do is spend what they already have on weapons and then use the Korean money to "repay" themselves.

          1. Willowarbor profile image61
            Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Well I think we have to remember that he is speaking to his own people also.

            1. wilderness profile image94
              wildernessposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              Of course he was, but that doesn't change that he was basically truthful.  They will spend the money as they wish, and without regard to what America wants.

              I would, too.

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                If you did, then you would access to that money again.  A piece I think Willowarbor forgot to mention is that those funds will be spent out over years and years.

                Face, your side would rather see these Americans rot in jail for the rest of their lives.  Fortunately, Biden found a way to get them out without incentivizing further kidnappings.

          2. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

            I agree.

          3. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            The Iranian probably did say that, if he said something different, he would likely be shot.

            Did you read the part of her comment that said something to the effect that "no money will flow to Iran or Iranian companies"?  Apparently not.

        2. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          Sorry to say, I have no faith that a terrorist nation can be trusted to keep any deal.  Iran is quickly building a nuclear arsenal, as well as supporting terrorists and selling weapons to Russia. And to add to that -- I don't in any respect believe or trust the Boden administration.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Reread the part that if Iran tries any shenanigans that they lose access to the money again.  Saying they "lose access" is actually wrong, because they really don't have actual access.  They can tell whoever is overseeing the funds where they want the money spent, and the overseerers will spend it there, if it meets the agreed upon rules.  If it doesn't, then the money doesn't get spent. 

            Rather ingenious of Biden if you ask me.

            Of course you don't believe or trust Biden administration, even though he has given you no reason to feel that way,

        3. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

          "This agreement has broader implications for U.S.-Iranian relations. It is not as simplistic as having paid a ransom. " - In the MAGA world it is. Have you heard Pence?

          I agree with your statement about Biden.  It was smart and a good indicator of a quick, analytical mind.

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        "These forms of ransom payments create an incentive for more kidnappings. Kidnappers see it as a lucrative business, leading to more abductions of innocent individuals, which, in turn, puts more lives at risk in the long run." - And your alternative is?...

  22. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    After a master class example of great negotiation by President Biden and his team in freeing 5  American hostages from inhumane conditions in Iran, he is receiving the predictable firestorm of hate from the MAGA right as they complain about the hostages being set free.

    You know who won't be voting for Trump?  Anyone who cared about the hostages.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/politics … index.html

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

      "You know who won't be voting for Trump?  Anyone who cared about the hostages."

      Those who care about discouraging hostage-taking will be voting for Trump...   Just never a good idea to pay terrorists.

      Those who care about not providing a rouge Terrorist Nation billions in cash to support their nuclear program, as well as a Nation that is supplying weapons to Russia to fight an unjust war will be voting for Trump.

      Oh and, those that care about America will be voting for Trump.

      My thoughts,  Biden has once again made a huge mistake due to poor decision-making.  Hopefully, he is removed with good speed before he completely destroys America.

      1. Willowarbor profile image61
        Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

        "Those who care about not providing a rouge Terrorist Nation billions in cash to support their nuclear program,".

        This is not supported in fact or reality.

        The money is not Ransom and it is not American tax dollars.

        Under the Biden's  deal, the U.S. unfreezes US$6 billion in Iranian oil revenue so the Iranian government can purchase humanitarian goods, such as food and medicine. The money was frozen in a restricted South Korean bank account in 2018.
        Iran can use the funds only under “strict oversight” of the U.S. Treasury Department. 
        The Central bank of Qatar will hold and administer  the funds.

        The following link provides a non-partisan perspective.  Predictably, the American mainstream media has portrayed this issue is simply a hostage situation  but this move seemingly was done for broader geopolitical considerations.
        In terms of encouraging hostage taking, since the 1970s, researchers examining whether ransom payments result in more seizures of hostages have found a mixed picture with contradictory trends. However, a new report released Wednesday showed the number of Americans held hostage or wrongfully detained abroad has fallen for the first time in over 10 years.

        When did we start making deals with other nations to release Americans? Let's be honest, we always did,  remember Reagan's Iranian deal?
        https://theconversation.com/ransom-or-r … ran-213442

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

          I am well aware that the money was money that was sanctioned by the Trump administration ---  The $5.9 billion in cash released to Iran represents money South Korea owed Iran — but had not yet paid — for oil purchased before the U.S. imposed sanctions on such transactions in 2019.

          So odd the cash  sanctioned for very good reasons "QUOTE
          We call on the regime to abandon its nuclear ambitions, change its destructive behavior, respect the rights of its people, and return in good faith to the negotiating table."   

          I just shared my view. I in no respect agree with paying for hostages. It in the long run just promotes more being taken hostage. Plus, this money will be spent as Iran sees fit.

          1. Willowarbor profile image61
            Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

            Plus, this money will be spent as Iran sees fit.

            How? With the provisions set up, with the money being held in a  Qatar bank and overseen by the treasury, how will this occur?
            The funds aren't going to Iran at all.  These funds will be  paid to vetted third-party vendors for food, medicine, medical products and agricultural products to go into Iran over a period of years.
            Plus, if there is any sort of diversion in the funds the US can decide to lock up the money. The Iranians can request withdrawals or humanitarian purposes only and the US has complete oversight of those funds.

            Mainstream media playing the clip of one of the Iranian president claiming they're going to do with the money whatever they want is extremely misleading.  Especially when they do not give the viewer all of the terms that were negotiated. Shameful really.  Does certain media really believe that I won't look for the rest of the story?  Do they think I'm too limited to understand the whole story?  Or are they just feeding a base that tunes in for a certain narrative? I think it's a little of each.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

              I appreciate our ongoing dialogue, but I must respectfully stand by my personal convictions regarding the present president and his administration.  I have strong reservations about the veracity of any statements made by the current administration. I find myself questioning the motivations behind the financial decisions to give Iran any cash, be it their own or ours...   I feel this is a mistake. A mistake made by both  Biden and, in retrospect, President Obama. Just another poor decision, that could snowball into a big problem, due to offering a financial incentive for rouge nations to take Americans hostage. It is a weak precedent that now is clearly in place due to Obama, and now Biden.

              It comes down to --- I do not trust or believe anything from this White House.

              1. Willowarbor profile image61
                Willowarborposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                I find myself questioning the motivations behind the financial decisions to give Iran any cash

                We literally are not giving them cash though. They will not receive any cash whatsoever. At the end of the day, they're going to basically receive food medicine, formula  and diapers.  I must ask the obvious question, do you believe that the Biden administration is lying about the terms of the agreement?   

                It is a weak precedent that now is clearly in place due to Obama, and now Biden.

                Well for the sake of accuracy, it started with Reagan. 

                I appreciate the dialogue as well. I'm sure we will agree to disagree on this one (I'm not trying to be argumentative) but I am satisfied with the deal as it saves the lives of American citizens. For me, that takes precedence over anything.
                Absolutely nothing will change the behavior of Iranian officials.  If they want to take hostages they will. I think it's incumbent upon any American to understand it is not a safe place to travel.   I'm appreciative of any president who acts on behalf of our citizens being wrongly held around the world.

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  As are most Americans.

                2. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 9 months agoin reply to this

                  "I must ask the obvious question, do you believe that the Biden administration is lying about the terms of the agreement? "

                  I find this hard to say, but I do not trust the Biden administration to be honest. I find it odd altogether that our government would pay ransom for hostages. We have done it so infrequently. I have no idea why this deal was done, but I hesitate to believe it was about getting back hostages.

                  1. peoplepower73 profile image88
                    peoplepower73posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    Sharlee:

                    As I understand it that was Iran's money that was frozen as a result of sanctions that were put on them.  Biden simply used it as a bargaining chip to bring those people home.

                    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nation … rcna104616

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 9 months agoin reply to this

              I gave up long ago trying to reason with someone who simply takes on faith they are right, regardless of what logic and facts are presented to them.  They will find a way to vilify the source.

              The only reason I do respond its to correct the mis- and disinformation that is offered by presenting the Truth. That kind of information, if left to stand, is corrosive.

          2. Credence2 profile image78
            Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

            So odd the cash  sanctioned for very good reasons "QUOTE
            We call on the regime to abandon its nuclear ambitions, change its destructive behavior, respect the rights of its people, and return in good faith to the negotiating table."   
            ----------
            Why should THEY abandon their nuclear ambitions, Israel is a Nuclear power and so are we. The only way is through a carrot of negotiation which Obama was well on the way to achieving until Trump mindlessly and unilaterally disavowed the agreement. No one is prepared to confront Iran militarily, so why all the saber rattling? Do you not think that it is reasonable for Iran to protect itself and provide itself with a deterrent against attacks from Israel?

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

              Ho my gosh, this long-played pout conflict is no place for a chat forum.   However, you are aware that Iran has openly stated on numerous occasions --- the minute they develop a nuke it will be headed for Israel.

              I am aware of the many, many back and forth between these two nations. The majority was provoked by Iran.  "Since 2010, Israel has allegedly conducted at least two dozen operations – including assassinations, drone strikes, and cyberattacks – on Iran. Most of the targets were connected to Tehran's controversial nuclear program, which Israel considers an existential threat."

              Iran is clearly a Nation that is dangerous not only to Israel, but the world. Their ideologies are well known.  And ya know what, the people of Iran live by these ideologies if not believe them forced to abide by them.

              1. Credence2 profile image78
                Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                If I were Iranian, I would consider Israel an existential threat with their unprovoked raids and such. I am not so quick to assign white and black hats in these conflicts. I find aggression from any and all quarters as provocative. Iran is a danger from the aspect of American foreign policy, and I am not always on board with it. Why should Israel have a nuclear deterrent but we say that another country cannot? From where does that arrogance derive? If you are not willing to go to war against them, diplomacy is your only option to restrain their ambitions.

                That is my opinion,

                1. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  Who is more likely to use its nukes first, Israel or Iran?

                  Why allow a very bad actor, one of the worst in history, to have a nuclear capability?

                  Apparently, it was Europe who helped Israel to build the bomb, we opposed it once we found out.

                  Would you have said about Russia way back when, why shouldn't they have the bomb?

                  Also, we don't know for sure if Israel has the bomb.  Since they haven't been tried and convicted of it, then they can't be said to be guilty of possessing nuclear weapons.

                  https://www.wilsoncenter.org/publicatio … ar-project

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_w … and_Israel

                  I wonder how they know they work.  I don't recall them doing any testing.  Possibly France did the testing for them.

                  1. Credence2 profile image78
                    Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    True , ESO, it may be most probable that Iran would use its nuclear arsenal first, but who knows what the circumstances would bring forth?

                    How do you stop Iran from obtaining a nuclear capacity short of using force? Who is willing to go to war with Iran over such an issue? We had an agreement getting Iran to voluntarily restrain itself until Trump in his inane shortsightedness and insane jealousy ripped the agreement apart.

                    It will be Russia that would be more than happy to lend a hand to Iran to develop a nuclear capacity, just as a counter to the United States.

                    Secrets like nuclear deterrent would be by the nature and history  of armament development not stay secret for long. It was just a matter of time for Russia to develop its own nuclear weapons just to avoid the US hegemony over them.

                    You cannot get Israel to confirm or deny their possession of a nuclear capacity. I am willing to bet you that they have it.

                2. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  It has been pointed out that some here do not appreciate lengthy comments --- How in the world does one address such a complicated issue and how I developed my personal view?

                  --- Israel has historical reasons to defend itself due to several factors:  Since its establishment in the late 40s, Israel has faced multiple wars and conflicts with neighboring Arab states that sought its destruction. Arab countries did not, and do not recognize Israel's right to exist, and these hostilities pose existential threats to Israel.

                  As you know, Israel was created in the aftermath of the Holocaust, during which millions of Jews were systematically murdered.  The memory of this genocide, combined with centuries of antisemitism, has made Israelis and Jewish communities around the world acutely aware of the need for self-defense. Israel is located in a region with significant geopolitical instability. The Middle East has been characterized by one conflict after another, territorial disputes, and the rise of militant groups.  They have great security concerns that are influenced by this volatile environment.

                  Israel has experienced a history of terrorism, including attacks from Palestinian groups like Hamas and Islamic Jihad. These acts of terrorism have led Israel to develop robust security measures and defensive capabilities, out of necessity. Iran has vowed to blow them off the face of the earth. 

                  Regarding the issue of nuclear deterrence, Israel has never officially confirmed or denied possessing nuclear weapons, following a policy of strategic ambiguity. They do not verbally threaten any nation.  However, it is widely believed that Israel has a nuclear arsenal.

                  So yes, they have nukes... In my view, given Israel's small size and the historical threats it has faced, having a credible nuclear deterrent can serve as a last line of defense against potential aggression or existential threats. It may be working to deter hostile states from contemplating an attack on Israel. Israel's neighbors, including some hostile ones, have pursued or developed nuclear capabilities. Having a nuclear deterrent can be seen as a way to maintain a strategic balance in the region. The Middle East is characterized by ongoing conflicts and instability. The presence of a nuclear deterrent can act as a stabilizing factor by discouraging sudden escalations or reckless actions by regional actors. But, should any nation threaten that the moment they get nuclear capability will blow another away?

                  Hey, I do not trust Iran and feel there is no more dangerous war than a war on religion.  I mean they do not like Christians or Jews... They have made that very clear.  I don't look at it as arrogance, I look at Israel as a peaceful nation, that is not threatening to use nukes on neighbors. They are using nukes to deter wars.

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    FINALLY - What she said.

                  2. Credence2 profile image78
                    Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    Yes, indeed, I am aware  of the conflicts in that region of the world going on for over 75 years.

                    I distrust U.S foreign policy more than I distrust Iran.

                    U.S. foreign policy has been primarily self serving, while it claims a status of pursuing human rights and global parity in the world.

                    The policy has been against developing and third world nations.

                    It has been in favor of promoting wealth gathering by American multinationals with their dollars corrupting those governments and exploiting the people and resources. There are plenty of examples of this, so I won't belabor the point here unless you ask.

                    If you allowed American multinationals to rape and pillage your society with the host Government in support, you became a member of the "free world" eligible to receive American foreign aid for "playing along".

                    If you put a stop to it as Castro did in 1959, resisting American economic imperialism, you are embargoed and forced to be relegated to the "Communist Block". It is rare that our foreign policy was not somehow an instigator in so many international problems today.

                    I wrote a graduate thesis paper back in 1976 where I was showing the pro-Israel bias in the typical American High School school textbook. Very Ancient, done with a manual Olivetti typewriter on onion skin with plenty of "white out", what a mess!!

                    All of books had biases very similar to the "Cowboys and Indians" fables of the Old West. I was called anti-Semitic by classmates based on my material. But, you don't need to be anti-Semitic to oppose Israel's role in the conflicts and have a problem with its government and foreign policy. All of this was in the midst of "Black September" politics of the mid 1970s.

                    Obama's 2015 agreement met my definition of fairness, instead of rattling sabres, we offered a solution where all parties could benefit.

  23. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 9 months ago

    Some people on this forum keep pointing to Biden's misremembered or embellished stories as  as sign that he is a liar our becoming demented.  Well, if he is, so are you.  As it turns out all people, to one degree or another, frequently do exactly what Biden is doing; and that includes those here who criticize him for it.

    Ask yourself without looking for the answer, just rely on your memory.  When and where did Nelson Mandela die? Does Mr. Monopoly wear a monocle? If you answered 1) While he was in jail or 2) Yes - then you would be wrong.

    Nelson Mandela died in 2013 after serving as leader of South Africa. But, it is a widely held belief he died in jail.  And, no, Mr. Monopoly does not wear a monocle, he never has although most people, including myself, would swear he does.

    This misremembering of things has a name - the Mandela Effect (the article will tell you why).  Scientists know this phenomenon exists and his ubiquitous.  But, they can't tell you why.  Nevertheless, it is a thing.

    My guess is that is what Biden is experiencing for most of his "memories" like teaching at college or the encounter with the Amtrak conductor.  After reading this article, a lot of things makes sense now. (It doesn't answer the question as to why his handlers can't get him to stop telling those embellished stories.

    https://theconversation.com/new-study-s … ies-188269

  24. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 8 months ago

    While it is a very long way out for the 2024 election, it is not going very well for Donald Trump in New Hampshire.

    "About 6 in 10 New Hampshire residents, 62%, say they would be dissatisfied or worse if Trump retook the presidencywith most, 56%, expressing outright anger at the prospect. Biden doesn't do very well either. A 56% majority say they’d be dissatisfied or worse if Biden won reelection, but fewer, 38%, say they’d be angry. About one-fifth say they’d be less than satisfied with either scenario. - Polls consistently show that Biden wins hands down among that group if it were a Biden-Trump match-up.

    But in a head-to-head matchup between Biden and Trump, a narrow majority, 52%, of potential 2024 voters in the state say they’d back Biden, with 40% favoring Trump and 8% unsure or saying they would back someone else. That’s a wider edge for Biden than in most recent national polling on the matchup, which has largely found a margin-of-error contest between the two most recent occupants of the White House.

    There’s also little consensus that any of those challenging Biden or Trump for their party’s nominations would be a good choice. Nearly half, 48%, say they’d be dissatisfied or angry if South Carolina Sen. Tim Scott were to win the presidency next year, with the numbers going up from there. Majorities say they’d be unhappy with a win by former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley (57%), tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy (62%), Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (63%), former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (72%) or former Vice President Mike Pence (76%). On the Democratic side, most also say they’d be unhappy with a win by author Marianne Williamson (56%) or environmental lawyer Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (59%).
    THEY really don't like Christie, lol.

    Biden’s edge in a New Hampshire rematch of 2020 rests partly on stronger support among his own partisans: 94% of Democrats currently say they’d back him against Trump, while 79% of Republicans in the state now say they’d support Trump. Yet Democrats are less enthusiastic about the prospect of a Biden presidency than Republicans are about a Trump one. Few Democrats in the state are outright discontented with the thought of a second Biden term – about 8 in 10 say they’d be satisfied to see him reelected. But just 31% report that they’re enthusiastic about the prospect, with that number falling to 19% among Democrats younger than age 50. Among Republicans, by contrast, 53% say they would be enthusiastic about a Trump win.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/22/politics … index.html

  25. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
    Kathleen Cochranposted 8 months ago

    Scott: You have the duty now. Hang in there.

  26. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 8 months ago

    Really strange Biden-Trump poll results.  I thought I would look at some recent results and then look at a couple of poll demographics.  The results are all over the map. The first number is all strong they lean in a certain direction with '+' being Democratic.  The second "number" is their rating as a poll by 538, and the last number is the last head-to-head result.

    Morning Consult: +3.1; B-; B+1
    ABC News/Wash Post: +.8; A; T-10 (I bet that got them looking at their sampling method)
    NBC News: +.8; B; Tie
    HarrisX: -1; A; T-5
    Emerson: +.3; A-; Tie
    Yahoo News: +.8; B; Tie
    CBS News: +.3; A-; T-1
    Harvard Harris: +.1; B/C; T-4
    Rasmussen: -1.4; B; B+1
    You Gov: +.8; B; B+1
    Fox News: +1.4; A; T-2
    Quinnipiac: +.6; A-; B+1

    As I said, all over the map but nevertheless Trump inexplicably has the edge.

  27. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 8 months ago

    Nationally, Biden and Trump are within the margin of error of each other with Trump currently up 1.5, So, I thought I would take a look at the Battleground states.

    NH - Biden +12
    PA - Biden +2 with 8% undecided
    MI - Biden +3 with 11% undecided
    AZ - Trump +2 with 12% undecided
    NV - Biden +3 with 13% undecided
    WI - Biden +9 with 5% undecided
    GA - Trump +1 with 17% undecided
    NC - Trump +1 with 19% undecided
    MN - Trump +3 with 13% undecided

    The undecided are crucial because other polling suggests they will break heavily in Biden's favor. A good chunk of the undecided do not like either candidate, but when forced to decide, most say they will go with Biden.  Another chunk are Republicans who don't like Trump. They will vote for Biden, as they did in 2020, vote for a different person altogether, or sit out the election.

    This is why many on the Left feel pretty confident Biden will win in spite of the national neck-and-neck polling and Biden's terrible favorability numbers.

    https://www.270towin.com/2024-president … ion-polls/

    1. Credence2 profile image78
      Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

      ESO, this article is a bit long but certainly makes many of the points that you are referencing to.

      https://www.salon.com/2023/09/30/leftis … ndulgence/

      1. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        Yes, it was long and I'll have to reread it a few times - he was all over the map and sort of disjointed.  There are some things in there I agree with and some things I don't.  I did like the Copovitch(sp) chart, however.

        He does have one thing right, I believe, "gradualism" is better than "revolution", you get more done.

  28. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 8 months ago

    The Sep 29, right-leaning Rasmussen poll has Biden's approval rating at 49% approve and 49% disapprove.  And you said it couldn't be done, lol.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

      Rasmussen - " for Friday shows that 49% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Biden’s job performance. Forty-nine percent (49%)
      disapprove.   

      The latest posted figures include 27% who Strongly Approve of the job Biden is doing and 42% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -14.   https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public … eptember29

      Rasmussen presents daily reports.

      YouGov
      40% Approve
      55% Disapprove

      Morning Consult
      40% Approve
      52% Disaporve

      Sep. 22-26
      1,000LV
      McLaughlin & Associates
      42% Approve
      54% disapprove

      New NBC polls show some very troubling polls for Biden, pretty much mimicking ABC/WAPO which were really very bad.

      Biden’s disapproval rating reaches new high
      Meanwhile, Biden’s job rating among registered voters stands at 41% approve and 56% disapprove — the highest disapproval rating of his presidency.
      https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/ … rcna111347

      1. Ken Burgess profile image75
        Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

        It's stunning he can still have 40%...  maybe after taxes hit next year, now that Trump's tax breaks have expired, it will sink below 40%... or maybe when gas creeps up over $7.

        Just goes to show how impressionable people are, some of them, so long as the MSM continues to praise him and laud what he has done, gullible people all over the country will probably believe it.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

          Ken

          The 40% approval rating of President Biden raises questions. Could it be influenced by the negative portrayal of Trump by media outlets like CNN and MSM? Perhaps some respondents feel compelled to align with their political affiliations when polled. In my opinion, there are individuals who remain uninformed about the facts.

          I believe more people are becoming aware of the economic challenges caused by Biden. They are being told that everything is going well, similar to what Trump claimed during his presidency. However, under Trump, we experienced lower costs for various goods and services. Under Biden, people are feeling the strain on their finances, resorting to borrowing for daily expenses. Using a credit card was convenient during the Trump era, but now it often becomes a necessity.

          When Trump's tax policies expire, we can anticipate increased financial burdens on many if the Democrats maintain control. This could lead to more hardships for the poor and middle class. The current state of affairs appears to be business as usual but with more severe consequences. Some people seem unusually susceptible to manipulation, and I find this trend concerning, especially when individuals unquestioningly believe what they're told.

          The question arises: will more Americans awaken to the realization that they've been misled? I believe they will, especially if the economy continues to struggle and if oil companies and OPEC exert additional pressure, leading to even higher prices and job losses. Additionally, there may come a time when Americans question supporting overseas conflicts while grappling with economic challenges at home—a potentially precarious situation. Ultimately, the extent of change depends on how much hardship Americans are willing to endure. It's worth noting that many are currently unwilling to acknowledge their current difficulties, which is somewhat ironic.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 8 months agoin reply to this

            I agree that CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, The Hill, Politico, The Guardian, etc, etc, report negative things about Trump. 

            Could it be that there is nothing Positive to report?  (I remember them giving him credit for Operation Warp Speed, the only positive I can think of.

            The way I interpret your criticism is that if there is nothing good to report about Trump and only negative, then they shouldn't report at all.

            BTW, why didn't Trump make the individual tax rates permanent like he did the corporate?

            I suspect Congress will keep the lower tax rates for the middle income families and below.  Personally, I will benefit because I will be able to itemize again.

          2. gmwilliams profile image84
            gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

            Hopefully, more Americans can see what Biden has done to this country.  Inflation rates are at an all time high.  Many middle class people are suffering because of Biden.  Illegals are flooding this country, further taxing our resources.  Enough is definitely enough.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 8 months agoin reply to this

              "Inflation rates are at an all time high." - Inflation is around 3%.  The all time recorded high is 18.1% in 1946.   I just can't understand why you keep posting false information.  Can you explain that? Is there a purpose for posting false information?  I would really like to know.

              Did you know that illegal immigration was much, much worse under Eisenhower, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and Obama?  It was Obama's policies that started lowering the high Bush II numbers. It is hard to tell the difference between Trump and Biden numbers when compared to those that came before them.  What do you have to say about that?

              Just to complete the story, immigration fell to very low levels at the end of the Eisenhower administrations and through the Kennedy-Johnson and the very early Nixon years.  Compared to them, Trump's numbers (and Biden's) are gargantuan.

              It is obvious to me when you look at the history of illegal immigration numbers, Conservatives are building a mountain out of a molehill.

              https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ … ty.svg.png

              1. Credence2 profile image78
                Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                It is is quite clear, there are many people that prefer to wrap themselves in lies rather than admit to facts revealing their gross partisanship in this matter. None of their resistance has anything to do with truth and facts, is that not pure rightwing?

                Time for a little good news?

                https://www.salon.com/2023/10/01/calm-d … l-save-us/

                1. tsmog profile image83
                  tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  Cred, the writing style, tone, and voice piqued my attention. Certainly strong contrasts of the leading opponents for the upcoming ballot. One could cuss up a storm if a Trump supporter while for Biden pausing here and there with thought. Me, the message about the youth vote came through clearly.

                  Today, drives to get people registered to vote are beginning for 2024. I would bet on what target each party will aim at. So, in an odd sense, yes, the battle has begun by sifting through rhetoric, influences of memes, and the scuttlebutt chatter. Yet, that matters not unless they are registered to vote. Then it is the next campaign ahead . . . get-out-the-vote!

                  BTW . . . a recent Onion article shares a stark truth. A one paragraph read. It is;

                  DNC Concerned After Poll Shows Only 15% Of Americans Have Heard Name Joe Biden (Sept 25, 2023)
                  https://www.theonion.com/dnc-concerned- … 1850863024

                  1. My Esoteric profile image87
                    My Esotericposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    Great satire regarding polls.

                  2. Credence2 profile image78
                    Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    Gosh, TSmog, i have a hard time wrapping myself around the Onion article. Can't imagine Americans being that uniformed.

                    The youth vote could prove tantamount and that is why Republicans are going to do all they can to repress it.

                2. My Esoteric profile image87
                  My Esotericposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  I sure hope they do!

                  Do you think Bernie Sanders disciples will 1) vote for Biden, 2) vote for Trump (like they did in 2016), or 3) not vote at all?

                  1. Credence2 profile image78
                    Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    They will vote for Biden as the alternative is to horrific to for them contemplate. I preferred Liz Warren as my ideal, but I settled with Biden as at least as effective in keeping the barbarians of the Right at bay. I believe most Left oriented voters will see things the same way.

                3. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  Among 18- to 35-year-olds, Trump has a slight 53-38 percent advantage (marginally
                  significant at this sample size). Still, that essentially matches what it was in May, and
                  Trump also was numerically ahead in this group (albeit not significantly) by 50-43
                  percent in February.
                  ABC?WAPO   https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-conte … litics.pdf

                  Men as well as black voters are also shifting away from Biden.

                  "Younger black voters are increasingly dissatisfied with President Biden, a glaring warning for the party as next year’s presidential contest comes into focus. In 2022, despite generally exceeding expectations, Democrats struggled to turn out their black voter base in places like Philadelphia, Atlanta, and Detroit—all cities vital to the 2024 race. The 11-point turnout differential between white and black voters was the largest in decades.

                  Despite widespread acknowledgment of the problem, little has changed since November. Biden’s approval rating with black voters is significantly lower today than when he took office. A New York Times average of recent general election polls found the incumbent leading Trump 74-19 with black voters, well below the 90-9 margin he mustered in 2020.

                  New data from AEI’s Survey Center on American Life reveals that younger black Americans are driving the shift away from Biden—and the Democratic Party. The disparities between black voters ages 18–49 and those 50+ are dramatic. The table below compares the two groups."
                  https://www.aei.org/politics-and-public … out-biden/

                  Don't you think the DNC should start looking for a new candidate?

                  1. Credence2 profile image78
                    Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    As for the black voters I am hearing some of the scuttlebut as well, while they may express disappointment with Biden, they are sure not going to embrace a clear adversary.

                    Regardless of the buzz, the proof is in the pudding, 2024. And a year is practically an eternity in politics.

                    It was interesting that I found that despite Carter's record by 1980, and things were in a mess, 83 percent of Blacks voted for Carter with 2 percent voting for third party candidate Anderson, with 15 percent voting for Reagan. Our interests go beyond our perception of the economy as what determines how we vote. While white folks gave Reagan his landslide. Very similar as to why Jews prefer Democrats even though Republicans appear to be more staunchly supporting Israel.

                    We can't afford to split the party in search of a new candidate, the GOP must be stopped. That  means Democrats voting in unison without distraction

            2. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 8 months agoin reply to this

              Yes, enough is enough. However, keep the faith polls are showing that Americans have realized Biden has ruined our economy, and can't handle the job.  We are now in a majority.

              "ABC NEWS/WASHINGTON POST POLL: Presidential Politics
              EMBARGOED FOR RELEASE AFTER 12:01 a.m. Sunday, Sept. 24, 2023
              Troubles for Biden: Not Just His Age
              Joe Biden’s job approval rating is 19 points underwater, his ratings for handling the economy
              and immigration are at career lows, a record number of Americans say they’ve gotten worse off
              under his presidency, three-quarters say he’s too old for another term and Donald Trump is
              looking better in retrospect – all severe challenges for Biden in his re-election campaign ahead.
              Forty-four percent of Americans in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll say they’ve
              gotten worse off financially under Biden’s presidency, the most for any president in ABC/Post
              polls since 1986. Just 37 percent approve of his job performance, while 56 percent disapprove.
              Still fewer approve of Biden’s performance on the economy, 30 percent.
              On handling immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border, Biden’s rating is even lower, 23 percent
              approval. In terms of intensity of sentiment, 20 percent strongly approve of his work overall,
              while 45 percent strongly disapprove. And the 74 percent who say he’s too old for a second term
              is up 6 percentage points since May. (Views that Trump is too old also are up, but to 50 percent.)"
              Source    https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-conte … litics.pdf
              https://www.axios.com/2023/09/24/biden- … -new-polls

              This is a promising poll for those of us who are realistic enough to see what Biden has truely done to our economy, as well as our southern border. Polls in every issue show Biden underwater, in regard to issues we are having in the country.  In my view, this somewhat represents my faith in our society. We that are concerned in regards to Biden's job performance are in the majority.

        2. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 8 months agoin reply to this

          Goebbels indicated that if you tell a lie long enough, people will believe it to be the truth.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image75
            Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

            This is true, and the propaganda state that America has become puts anything Goebbels dreamed of to shame.

            Only those who spend a considerable amount of time outside of America will have any idea of how true this is.

            As for the coming election, its a shame it isn't easier to go back and look at old posts. I noted three years ago I expected it would be Trump vs. Biden again... I believed the primary reason for this, is that if America had a choice of a better alternative, say Nikki Haley and Tim Scott as P & VP choices... I think Biden would be slaughtered.

            I said then that Biden needs it to be Trump, all the effort they have put in to destroy the public perception of him for the previous decade will keep 50% of the populace from voting for him even if the country is literally burning down around our ears.

            But they have done nothing to smear or destroy Haley and Scott... it would also be very hard to paint such a ticket as Sexist and Racist, not that I don't think they would try.

            Given the hardships we are facing with Inflation, Interest Rates, Immigration, and likely higher gas prices come next November chances of the majority of Americans wanting to move on from Biden are good.

            I don't think Biden could defeat a moderate, articulate, well rounded opposition ticket.  But I do think they have cowed the American public enough that he can beat Trump.

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 8 months agoin reply to this

              I heard from Q that Trump is a Martian bent on taking over the world and doing weird things to children.

              (Q now wants JFK Jr. to win and has turned on Trump)

              1. Credence2 profile image78
                Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                If Q is pulling for RFK Jr., that is a good reason for Democrats to pull away.

            2. Credence2 profile image78
              Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

              Ken, it is not going to be as simple as putting up female and black tokens and expecting votes. There remains the abortion issue, and the very right of younger voters to participate.

              If I were a young voter, I would find the GOP plans to disenfranchise me or otherwise control my reproductive options as authoritarian and unacceptable and as we saw in 2022, the significance of this outweighs concern over the economy.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image75
                Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                I doubt Haley and Scott feel they are tokens.

                Your view of the parties appears unapologetically racist and set in a time that no longer exists.

                The parties are the people who run them... and if Haley or Scott became the President they would set the precedence for the party.

                They would not be tokens.

                1. Credence2 profile image78
                  Credence2posted 8 months agoin reply to this

                  Nikki Haley and Tim Scott better alternatives?

                  Republicans are unattractive not only because of its standard bearer but based on ideology and platforms that are much less popular than you think. So, changing faces and personalities changes only the image but not the substance of what people will respond to at the polls. Your predictions may well prove to be wrong, and it is not like it is first time.

                  I wonder if Biden is really as unpopular and as inept as you have been claiming here and why would I believe that it was not purely partisan.

                  1. Ken Burgess profile image75
                    Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                    Here are my predictions, you will be reminded over the next 24 months that I predicted them, I will cut&paste this comment for reference.

                    Trump will be jailed, his assets seized, and removed from ballots. 

                    He just lost in court, on charges no one brought up against him.  That is 100% political in nature and had no standing.

                    We will be in WWIII either before November 2024 or most certainly after it, and during this war, the banking system, and liberty as you know it, will be revised. 

                    If you do not have assets,  you won't be majorly affected by the things to come, although you might not like the new system or taxations imposed.

                    If you do have considerable astes... 401ks, Roth IRAs, properties... well, you deserve what you get if Biden remains in control and you supported him. War, Banking Crisis, all new system imposed.  Its baked into his second term, and they will do anything to ensure it comes to pass.

                    You never took the time to delve into Agenda 2030, the Global Compact on Migration, the Great Reset, I have harped on these things for years. 

                    These are the very things that the Biden Administration supports, works towards, as does most who are in DC with power today, they have culled most of those who would resist; none of which are co-habitable with the Constitution, private ownership of wealth, weapons, or the ability to deny the government anything they want.

          2. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 8 months agoin reply to this

            Seems to me you are trying to prove his point.  Problem is, I won't believe your lies.

            1. Castlepaloma profile image73
              Castlepalomaposted 8 months agoin reply to this

              Wow, well over 6000 comments. Americans must love suffering.

              1. tsmog profile image83
                tsmogposted 8 months agoin reply to this

                On that note . . . curious, I did a search on Google with the phrase great things done by Biden. This forum topic is 56th in the Search Engine Results Page (SERPS). That means people can read it. But, to comment/reply they have to join HubPages.

  29. Kathleen Cochran profile image74
    Kathleen Cochranposted 8 months ago

    Could not care less what you respect. Yours is the kind of logic that finds a man like Trump blameless.

  30. abwilliams profile image67
    abwilliamsposted 8 months ago

    I can't believe that this is happening in the USA, but no worries....
    because, apparently, Joe Biden is "doing great things"!

    1. Castlepaloma profile image73
      Castlepalomaposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      I'm sure Nepoleon, Stalin, and Hitler did great things. Now to weigh out the negative with the Positive

    2. Ken Burgess profile image75
      Ken Burgessposted 8 months agoin reply to this

      Can the government seize the property and businesses of the primary opposition candidate (as well as former President) without a trial?

      Obviously it can.

      Can it do so without the claim of a crime having been brought against him by another person or corporation?

      Obviously it can.

  31. gmwilliams profile image84
    gmwilliamsposted 8 months ago

    Biden hasn't done any positive things for America.   Under Biden's administration, inflation has escalated beyond control.  Middle class families are suffering because of the increasing cost of living which includes necessities such as rents, health insurance, & food.  There are middle class families living in cars because of Biden. 

    Biden is putting other countries ahead of America.  He is giving money to assist other countries.  America doesn't have the monies to assist other countries.  Biden is allowing massive amounts of immigrants to America which have deleterious effects on American infrastructures.  To paraphrase Stevie Wonder's song- "if Biden want to hear our views, he hasn't done a thing for America.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image73
      Castlepalomaposted 7 months agoin reply to this

      +++

    2. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 7 months agoin reply to this

      Nothing here I could take exception to, for it is spot on.

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

        Thank you.

    3. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

      So well said... agree with every word.

  32. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 7 months ago

    A good jobs report to go along with a continuing good economy.

    * Inflation under control at 3.7%, it was 8.2% a year ago.
    * Job growth steady and strong in spite of the strike
    * GDP growth continues at an almost to-good-to-be-true rate of 4.9%!
    * Unemployment at 3.9% is still at historically low levels. (It ticked up in Oct due to the strike)
    * Wage growth continues to beat inflation growth.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/03/economy/ … index.html

  33. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 7 months ago

    .... well?
    Does anyone want the LAND of America?

    Germany?
    Russia?
    China?
    Africa?
    Iran?

  34. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
    Kathryn L Hillposted 7 months ago

    Right now, we, here in America, are not at war, and one of these days everything will get back to normal.

    Let us keep that thought in mind and anyone who does not agree should be ignored and un-empowered.

    How do you un-empower power-hungry evil billionaires?
    That is the question, for which there is no practical answer.

  35. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 7 months ago

    I would think everyone can agree that President Biden has done a fantastic job of navigating the minefield of the Israeli - Hamas war.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo … -israel-7/

    1. Kathryn L Hill profile image76
      Kathryn L Hillposted 7 months agoin reply to this

      He is very skillful indeed ...

      at speaking out of both sides of this mouth.

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

        THANK YOU AND A RESOUNDING AMEN.  SPOT ON!

        1. Willowarbor profile image61
          Willowarborposted 7 months agoin reply to this

          Thank God we have a president at this time in history who has such a depth of foreign policy experience. I couldn't imagine if Trump were in office with all of this going on. A man who, his closest advisors say didn't grasp fundamental history and uninformed about basic geography and government. It's impossible to think of him as anything other than  a bloviating buffoon.

    2. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

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      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

        +1000000000

    3. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

      It seems you're still in alignment with the minority opinion. Biden's statements appear inconsistent on a daily basis, and his recent actions have drawn more attention and criticism than usual. He can't even get the Americans out of Gaza, or get the American hostage back. not to mention he has made our servicemen in Iraq sitting ducks. He needs to be removed, he is inept. He has caused nothing but serious problems from day one.  Thank God so many have finally realized he is not fit to do the job.  Polls are tanking weekly, now at a 37% approval rate.

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

        Biden is simply not presidential material.  He doesn't have the aptitude to be in such a powerful office.  Shar you are correct in your premise that everything he undertakes turns to absolute naught.  An astute 5 year old can see that Biden is unfit to be president.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

          He was not fit to be a senator either. I was baffled when he won the 2020 primary. I could not figure out why the Dems would even jump on his bandwagon.   I guess they wanted a scapegoat when their big New World Plan hit the ground.  They needed someone to tell them what to do, and if all went south --- Hey it's all on Joe. And oh my has all gone south... Two wars, a failed economy, open borders, crazies in the streets protesting against Israel, and let's not forget open borders --- Hey what next?

          1. Willowarbor profile image61
            Willowarborposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            What's wrong with protesting israel?

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

              I think she means the SAME open borders Trump had, lol.  Biden kept almost ALL the same polices, save stripping children out of the arms of their parents, that Trump put in place.  SO, if Biden has open borders, so did Trump (but they won't admit that)

              Did you know we are fighting in two wars?  I didn't, I wonder which ones 
              they are.

              Of course, you and I know the economy is perking along nicely.

              As to the Israelis, if they are protesting the right-wing extremist in the West Bank, that is probably a good thing.  If it in support of terrorists like Hamas, that is a terrible thing.

              Do I wish Israel would be a little more precise in their attempts to kill Hamas, yes.  But because Hamas hides behind the skirts of Palestinian Women and the diapers of the babies they carry, the loss of innocents is on Hamas, not Israel.

              If Hamas weren't so cowardly and do the manly thing of coming out to fight the Israelis, a lot more innocents would be saved.

        2. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

          Yet he is  doing a wonderful job.

          1. gmwilliams profile image84
            gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            There is a penthouse on Fifth Avenue and 77th Street selling for $1000.00.  Better yet there is a duplex apartment on Shore Road, Brooklyn selling for $900.00.

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

        I try not to let opinions guide my thinking and analysis, although they are a data point.  I let facts guide me and I stay out of left and right-wing echo chambers.

        And the facts clearly demonstrate Biden, for the most part, has been one of the best presidents America has had (so says the opinions of professional historians)

        1. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

          He is THE WORST president in American history, even Jimmy Carter was a better president than Biddy Bepop Biden.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

            1000000000000 % ----

            1. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

              Definition of an Echo Chamber.

          2. Ken Burgess profile image75
            Ken Burgessposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            Carter was a good man, ill-suited for the job.

            Biden is a corrupt, compromised, and mentally declining man that has no business doing the job.

            1. gmwilliams profile image84
              gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

              Amen, preach.

              1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

                Second That!

          3. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            Experts differ radically from your opinion.  For example, the latest Sienna poll of experts puts Biden at 19 out of 46 presidents while Trump is WAY down at 43rd. 

            It is probably just me, but I take the word of experts over partisans from either side.

            I bet once he is jailed, he will drop to 46th.

            1. Credence2 profile image78
              Credence2posted 7 months agoin reply to this

              Yep, I am going to give credence to  the consensus of renown historians over hair brained right wing judgement and opinion based on absolutely nothing.

              1. gmwilliams profile image84
                gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

                Really?  Those historians are analyzing & concluding things based upon their particular narrative. So called facts can be manipulated to fit a particular agenda.   It is THE REALITY of a situation that verifies how Biden is doing.   Inflation is out of control.   Even middle class families are struggling.   Some are living in cars because of escalating costs.  Illegals are coming in droves, exhausting our socioeconomic infrastructures.   Those historians are making fanciful speculations based on their particular purview.  They are living in their Ivy Tower, divorced from what is ACTUALLY happening in America.   I majored in history & sociology.  I don't see the world through rose colored glasses.  I live in THE REAL WORLD.

                1. Credence2 profile image78
                  Credence2posted 7 months agoin reply to this

                  Statistics can be manipulated? All of them? And what is your knowledge outside the right wing bubble chamber to challenge authoritative sources far more credible than just your mere opinion?

                  You are just a rightwinged oriented MAGA that pretends to a certain objectivity in your political choice.  Nothing can be further from the truth.

                  For the rightwinger, the real world is only what they say it is, the truth be damned

                  "If you can bash, then you can Biden bash"

                  1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                    Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

                    "Statistics can be manipulated? All of them? And what is your knowledge outside the right wing bubble chamber to challenge authoritative sources far more credible than just your mere opinion?"

                    Trump leads Biden in 5 key battleground states: poll
                    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 … ates-poll/
                    https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/05/politics … index.html

                    NYT --  Joe Biden Is in Trouble
                    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opin … lling.html
                    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/p … trump.html
                    Behind the Curtain: Biden's race problem with Blacks and Hispanics
                    https://www.axios.com/2023/11/06/biden- … sing-polls

                    I predict Biden's approval rate will soon become historic stats. 
                    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/bi … al-rating/

                    "David Axelrod questions whether it is 'wise' for Biden to stay in 2024 race: 'Stakes...too dramatic to ignore"

              2. Credence2 profile image78
                Credence2posted 7 months agoin reply to this

                You know that it might just drop to 45th as Grover Cleveland had two non consecutive terms as President.

  36. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 7 months ago

    President Biden has Secretary of State meet with Palestinian Authority Leader President Abbas to talk next steps.  He also met earlier with other Arab leaders in Jordan to discuss what comes after Israel cripples Hamas.

    MASTERFUL. The sign of a sharp mind and great statesmanship.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/05/world/bl … index.html

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

      Netanyahu has made his plan clear. Not sure why you feel he would consider what Biden wants. That is laughable. Maybe Bide will pull the old  Do this or no money... LOL

      Biden and his crew are an embarrassment.   A sharp mind would have been not to lift the sanctions on Iran's oil... Biden supplied the cash to Hamas, and enabled them to commit genocide --- Biden has blood on his hands. Biden ultimately is responsible now for two wars, and many hundreds of thousands of deaths. How in the world can you support such a person?

      1. Willowarbor profile image61
        Willowarborposted 7 months agoin reply to this

        Netanyahu has made his plan clear. Not sure why you feel he would consider what Biden wants.

        But it seems that you blamed Biden for not persuading Putin to stay out of Ukraine? You seemed to have stated previously that Biden should have single-handedly been able to stop Russia's war machine. Yes, you are more than likely right about your assuming Netanyahu has made up his mind and other world leaders will not sway him but let's make sure we're using the same premise across situations.

        1. My Esoteric profile image87
          My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

          Also, the false implication of the statement is that Biden hasn't changed Bebe's mind about ANYTHING, nothing, nada, not one thing - to use a phrase I heard somewhere, laughable..

        2. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

          The two crises are not directly connected. Russia had been displaying aggressive behavior in the lead-up to its actions in Ukraine, giving ample time for the Biden administration to respond decisively. Diplomatic efforts, backed by strong sanctions against Russia, could have been pursued, as well as the option of the threat of positioning troops at the border as a deterrent. There was also the possibility of halting Russian oil exports to the market period, which could have been a powerful measure.  Biden's leadership in every crisis he created has been perceived as weak and ineffective.  My point was to sarcastically share that BiBi would not consider anything Biden or his weak administration would suggest, regarding fighting his war. I would think BiBi is somewhat blaming Biden for providing the money to Hamas to commit genocide on his people.  Biden made it possible for Iran to get rich by dropping and ignoring any sanctions on their oil.

          Once again Biden has caused a huge crisis due to his poor fission making. He should have stayed in his basement.

          1. Willowarbor profile image61
            Willowarborposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            So far there are 10,000 Palestinians dead, half of those are children.  who is committing genocide?

            I'm struggling with the logic of your statement..

            "Netanyahu has made his plan clear. Not sure why you feel he would consider what Biden wants."

            It seems that your expectations of Biden aren't consistent.

            Let me just rephrase..

            Putin has made his plan clear. Not sure why you feel he would consider what Biden wants...

            If Israel's prime minister has made up his mind and has no care or consideration for what Biden has to say or offer in terms of brokering peace then how do you come  to the conclusion that Putin's mind wasn't made up and that negotiation failed because of his intractable stance? Somehow it seems you're trying to say that Biden could have stopped a determined Putin but his words are meaningless to Netanyahu.
            This logic escapes me it's not consistent. Folks are just clamoring to find ways to blame Biden even when it makes no sense and logic has to continually shift.

            Biden certainly did not enable Iran to become rich, they have been funding terrorism through the region long before Biden hit the White House. Again overly simplistic.

            It's getting to the point on this forum that people should just say, "I blame Biden for everything, I am a conservative and I will remain in my conservative box and say and think as I am told..."

          2. Ken Burgess profile image75
            Ken Burgessposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            The mistake you are making is thinking that Biden wanted to avoid war with Russia, he did not.

            Biden in fact, has always wanted war with Russia, even as VP.  Biden's corrupt ties to Ukraine aside, he was never willing to negotiate with Russia.

            Biden demanded that Russia give Crimea to Ukraine, and that they would pay reparations for the Donbas separatists that Russia supported.

            Biden flatly stated time and again he would not negotiate on Crimea or Ukraine becoming part of NATO.

            Russia built up its forces as a show of seriousness that they would not accept Ukraine as part of NATO and they would not allow Crimea to be taken from the Russian Republic.

            The war started only after Biden and Zelensky made it clear they wanted war and were willing to do whatever it took to take Crimea from Russia.

            Context matters.

            Understanding the Russian perspective matters.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

              "The mistake you are making is thinking that Biden wanted to avoid war with Russia, he did not."

              Oh yes, Biden wanted war,  ---  I was trying to point out he could have avoided it if he wanted to, there were lots of great options to stop that war ---   It was obvious by his decisions he invited the Ukraine war.   And look at the devastation   ---

              Bloody Biden does not care about the life of foreigners or Americans, he is a vile human being. He has been a very bloody president. Who knows what will happen here, I won't be surprised.

            2. My Esoteric profile image87
              My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

              Why? Putin has made the Russian perspective VERY CLEAR - conquer Ukraine and subjugate its people.

          3. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            What would have that "decisive response" look like exactly?  What is it you think he should have done that he did not do?

            I didn't know that, when did Biden give money to Hamas. Goes to show, you learn something new every day.  And what did say to make you "think BiBi is somewhat blaming Biden for providing the money to Hamas to commit genocide on his people. "?  That seems pretty laughable to me.

            Tell me, how does someone get rich when they don't actually receive any money?  Iran didn't receive any money.

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

        What is "laughable" is to think Bebe wouldn't consider what his greatest benefactor has to say.  Anyway, facts prove you wrong since he has been listening to Biden and has been persuaded to alter course somewhat.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

          "What is "laughable" is to think Bebe wouldn't consider what his greatest benefactor has to say.  Anyway, facts prove you wrong since he has been listening to Biden and has been persuaded to alter course somewhat."

          Oh my Gosh, are you insinuating --- Biden's Ukraine scam could work on BiBi, who has just witnessed his people being slaughtered by terrorists?

          "Fire the AG or ya don't get the million --- Joe Biden: "If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money" And SOB he was fired..." LOL

          Hey, that's you, guy!  In my view, he is a disgusting human being with lots of blood on his hands. AFGHANISTAN - UKRAINE - ISRAEL .... Who next?

          Provide a link that gives proof that Netanyahu has been persuaded to alter the course of his war. Ridiculous.  First Biden has no authority over aid to Israel. Israel is our most cherished ally, this old POS would not dare to hold up aid to Israel. Hey, hopefully, he does try to pull his well-used blackmail grift... That would be one more ridiculous decision that will have him dragging his butt back to his basement.

          Biden looks like a fool, he should keep his mouth shut, he has embarrassed America enough. Time to impeach.

          1. gmwilliams profile image84
            gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            +100000000 in concurrence.

          2. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            Can't follow your non-sequiturs.  Sorry.

            Are you claiming the president of the United States has no authority over foreign affairs.  You might reread the Constitution. 

            Biden has been doing a magnificent job working his way through the Israeli crisis.  Brilliant man.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

              I think we all know the president has no power over the purse. Shocked you did not know that. Just to remind you hear is what I said... Very clear I was speaking of foreign aid.

              "Provide a link that gives proof that Netanyahu has been persuaded to alter the course of his war. Ridiculous.  First Biden has no authority over aid to Israel. Israel is our most cherished ally, this old POS would not dare to hold up aid to Israel. Hey, hopefully, he does try to pull his well-used blackmail grift... That would be one more ridiculous decision that will have him dragging his butt back to his basement."

              Gosh, how long have you been back... You need to stop putting words in my mouth.  I mean you do this frequently and seems you would at some point become a bit embarrassed at being found to be not picking up context.

              I am going to do the kind thing --- leave you to those that have the same ideologies.  Bye

              1. gmwilliams profile image84
                gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

                +100000000000000.

        2. Credence2 profile image78
          Credence2posted 7 months agoin reply to this

          Well, ESO, I have had it up here with conservative oriented drivel over this issue.

          Trump unilaterally destroyed the agreement Obama had consummated between Iran, the U.S and Western Europe, unilaterally and with out cause as if somehow this base and  ignorant man knew more than people who have been in foreign policy matters for some time.

          This country gives Israel almost 4 billions dollars in foreign aid every year. In the face of all of this, I expect that our government should have the ear of the Israeli government. So, they should not be turning their noses at our advisors. I say that the Israeli government has been taking advantage of this "so called" relationship for at least the 50 years since I have been closely involved studying it. Bibi and the Israeli government gets its cake and eats it as well.

          I don't like linking Palestinian concerns with Hamas, another conservative ruse? Israel continues in its dubious settlement policies while pretending to address Palestinian grievances. Bibi is the beast of the Middle East and Trump's counterpart in the region. His goal is to destroy the entire area, so there will simply not remain a "Palestinian Question".

          Too many conservatives here would continue to blame Biden for a rainy day. If I had to blame him for anything, it is being too lenient with Bibi and the Israeli government in this matter. There are many the protest on behalf of the Palestinians, are we all to believe that their complaint and grievances have no merit?

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            It is the right-wing driven Settlement projects that put a bad taste in my mouth about Israel. In all other aspects, I respect them very much. 

            Biden is much appreciated by the normal Israelis, in fact, at the moment, is idolized for what he has done for them.

            You can easily tell that Bibi is listening to Biden's cautions about how to approach Gaza.  If he weren't ten of thousands more Palestinians would be dead along with Hamas who is hiding behind them.

            To preach otherwise is so much partisan drivel by those consumed with their Biden-hate campaign.

      3. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

        Sharlee, Biden is far from sharp.  Biden is addled.  Sharlee, you are astute in your analysis as usual.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

          As are you my friend!

  37. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 7 months ago

    Due to President Biden's masterful diplomacy, A Texas pizza shop owner who was stranded in Gaza with limited supplies for weeks was able to safely cross into Egypt on Saturday, his wife told CNN Sunday.

    https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-new … 33353c6fb7

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

      "David Axelrod questions whether it is 'wise' for Biden to stay in 2024 race: 'Stakes...too dramatic to ignore"

      OMG --- do you realize how many people holding American passports want to get out of Gaza?  These people should have been allowed to leave weeks ago. DeSantis has brought home every one of the Floridians that were trapped in Israel, that wanted to come home. Biden is weak, he actually can't handle even the simple problem of getting Americans into Eygpt and home. He is a pure idiot. This old fool makes no mention of the Americans killed on Oct 7 --- How does one support this man?

      He has brought America to its knees on the world stage. Sickening to watch.

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

        +10000000000

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

          I think a huge majority have become very worried about the path Biden put us on, and would further lead.  Hey, I am very sure more problems are coming, I mean I feel and have felt our Governing body is spinning out of control.  I think Joe is going to be dumped pretty quickly. The Dems are pretty smart and don't see a win with Biden in 2024.

          1. gmwilliams profile image84
            gmwilliamsposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            It is going to get much worse before it becomes better. You are right-many people who voted for Biden now REGRET it.

          2. peoplepower73 profile image88
            peoplepower73posted 7 months agoin reply to this

            Sharlee:

            "I mean I feel and have felt our Governing body is spinning out of control."

            If you mean the House of Representative, you are right. But Biden didn't have anything to do with that.  The GOP are all out of control because they are Trump's puppets, including the latest Speaker of the House.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

              I disagree ---  Many Americans are very concerned about righting all the huge crises Biden has caused, and they want to hear solutions. The old-school politicians just do not have what the Majority of Americans are looking for.   Many (most likely the majority) of Republicans want a strong about-America agenda, an end to all the fluff-woke BS, and someone who is very much transparent, and the independents are on board with the same.

              So many Americans have WOKE (lol) up to the fact we need to fix America, right now before she sinks.  The polls indicate the majority are done with Biden, due to his poor job performance, and the mess he has made of the Country and the world. I have no idea if they will turn to Trump, but in my view, they will turn away from the Democratic party. Their left-wing agenda sunk them big time. I surmise a very small minority will continue to support Biden, so many in his party want him out. I know I have harped on this for almost three years --- Biden makes problems, big problems, and has no solutions to solve them. I feel somewhat pleased that the polls are pretty much supporting my thoughts at this time.

              Trump leads Biden in 5 key battleground states: poll
              https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 … ates-poll/
              https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/05/politics … index.html

              NYT --  Joe Biden Is in Trouble
              https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/06/opin … lling.html
              https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/us/p … trump.html
              Behind the Curtain: Biden's race problem with Blacks and Hispanics
              https://www.axios.com/2023/11/06/biden- … sing-polls

              I predict Biden's approval rate will soon become historic stats. 
              https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/bi … al-rating/

              "David Axelrod questions whether it is 'wise' for Biden to stay in 2024 race: 'Stakes...too dramatic to ignore"  So many jumping ship.

              I realize my comment is very cynical, but I can't find even a  bit of respect for those who continue to support such a flawed president, he has ruined our country before our eyes, in my view.  Maybe time to reevaluate your thoughts on Joe. Just saying...

        2. Ken Burgess profile image75
          Ken Burgessposted 7 months agoin reply to this

          The How many great amazing, wonderful things Joe Biden has done as President thread.  Always a fan of the forums favorite.

          The Afghan Fiasco Will Stick to Biden
          https://www.wsj.com/articles/afghanista … 1630612285

          In the rapidly worsening Ukraine fiasco, the U.S. is reaping exactly what it sowed
          https://www.salon.com/2022/02/02/in-the … -it-sowed/

          Biden cash to Iran and Gaza under congressional scrutiny after Hamas attack
          https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poli … e_vignette

          Biden allowed Iran's oil to flow, removed the previous Administration's sanctions, even after complaining that Iran was helping Russia against Ukraine.  Even after:

          February 25, 2021: President Biden ordered  retaliatory airstrikes on Iraqi Shiite militia targets located in eastern Syria. This was in response to an attack in February of 2021, when Iranian proxies (again, Iraqi Shiite militias) launched three attacks on American targets inside Iraq.  One U.S.-employed contractor was killed and U.S. troops were injured. 

          June 27, 2021: President Biden ordered  retaliatory airstrikes on Iraqi Shiite militia targets located along the Iraq/Syria border. This was in response to drone attacks on bases in northern Iraq that housed U.S. forces. The two Shiite groups hit were the Kata’ib Hezbollah and Kata’ib Sayyid al-Shuhada militia groups. Iraqi media reported that four militia members died in the attack.

          June 28, 2021: In response to the previous day’s airstrikes, militia forces respond with rocket attacks on U.S. troops on the ground in Syria near al-Omar.  The U.S. reported no American casualties, and responded with artillery fire at the “rocket-launching platforms.”

          August, 2022: Two Airstrikes against Shiite militia targets in Syria following rocket attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq in which American troops were wounded.

          Etc. etc.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 7 months agoin reply to this

            If these facts don't wake up Americans, not sure what would. Maybe being nuked?

          2. Willowarbor profile image61
            Willowarborposted 7 months agoin reply to this

            Very one sided. I'll just hit on the supposed oil sanctions on Iran during Trump's administration. 

            "Iran conceals the bulk of its oil trade through subterfuge, with practices ranging from the simple — changing the names and registrations of oil tankers — to the complex and dangerous, such as clandestine transfers of crude oil or liquefied petroleum gas between vessels in the open sea. United Against Nuclear Iran, a Washington advocacy group that monitors Iran’s illicit oil trade, obtained aerial photographs depicting four vessels allegedly engaged in illegal ship-to-ship transfers of Iranian oil in October. In five other instances, foreign ships were seen picking up Iranian liquid petroleum gas and transferring the fuel to other vessels bound for Chinese ports.

            https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.co … m-pressure

            A true blockade of Iranian oil could not be realized without some sort of military action. And since most of their oil goes to China what do you think that sort of conflict would look like? I'd say that the Trump administration probably turned a blind eye to Iranian oil slipping off to China.  Yes he reduced the export of Iranian oil but what were the consequences?

            https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.co … m-pressure

            This was the consequence..
            Two years after Trump withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal, Tehran has cut in half the time it would need to produce enough weapons-grade fuel for a nuclear bomb. Cool stuff huh?  Did Trump make the proper trade off? Ditch a nuclear agreement that all said was working in favor of sanctioning oil?  And in the opposite, Biden's desire to bring back the nuclear deal with loosened sanctions on oil which most say would drop crude prices?  Especially in light of the fact that there is an entire 'dark fleet" out there delivering so-called sanctioned oil to China.

            Why the US Can’t Stop Iran’s Lucrative Oil Trade With China?

            '...thanks to China’s appetite for discounted crude, and what traders, analysts and oil industry executives describe as expanded payment and transport networks that the US cannot reach."

            What’s less clear is whether Washington can actually do much to counter the effect of China’s support. The trade is very sophisticated, with multiple middlemen, which makes it a lot more difficult for the US to sanction. The US can hit companies that are more public or obvious in their Iranian dealings, but many of these middlemen are small entities,

            Yet both Iran and Russia have provided fodder for critics who argue that even unprecedented measures have failed to change behavior, as oil revenue continues to flow to the very top.

            https://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-us-t … 43691.html

            Again, the issue is so much more complex and multifaceted. The  "Biden did this" refrain is again, too simplistic.

            1. Ken Burgess profile image75
              Ken Burgessposted 7 months agoin reply to this

              Iran exported nearly 1.4 million barrels of oil per day in October, sustaining its average for 2023. This is up 80% from the 775,000 barrels per day Iran averaged under the Trump Administration’s “maximum pressure” strategy, according to United Against Nuclear Iran, the group of former U.S. Ambassador Mark Wallace and Sen. Joe Lieberman, whose Tanker Tracker generates the best public data we have.

              https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-admi … a-df192c53

              The difference for Iran, over $35 Billion dollars.

              This isn't politics as normal.  I'm not jumping on Biden (his Administration) because he is a Democrat or because I have a horse in the race I prefer (right now I'll take ANY change that gets this cabal out of the WH).

              Biden is everything the MSM warned America that Trump was, he is the one that is starting WWIII, it wasn't Trump.

              Biden is the one having the FBI run around investigating and arresting the opposition, using the FBI and DOJ to cover up his own crimes, labeling half of America a threat to Democracy... look back into other nation's histories, see how things go when their leaders start calling the opposition traitors and domestic terrorists.

              Biden is a one Administration wrecking ball to the Constitution, and to Global Peace, how many new wars have to be opened up before people get it... this Administration is run by warmongering lunatics AND incompetent idiots, a bad combination to have in control of the WH.

              1. peoplepower73 profile image88
                peoplepower73posted 7 months agoin reply to this

                Ken:  "Biden is a one Administration wrecking ball to the Constitution, and to Global Peace, how many new wars have to be opened up before people get it... this Administration is run by warmongering lunatics AND incompetent idiots, a bad combination to have in control of the WH."

                The last time I looked.  Putin started the war with Ukraine and Hamas and Netanyahu started the war in Israel where 12,000 Palestinians have needlessly been killed and the remainder have been made refugees in their own countries.  The towns, cities, and infrastructure  in both countries have been turned to rubble. Talk about a wrecking ball !!!

                1. Ken Burgess profile image75
                  Ken Burgessposted 7 months agoin reply to this

                  You didn't look very hard, or you don't know how, one of the two.

              2. Willowarbor profile image61
                Willowarborposted 7 months agoin reply to this

                Why do Americans think they're always at the center of everything that goes on in the world? We seem to be a very egotistical people.

                All of this talk about Israel and Hamas and almost no one brings up the Israeli government, it's almost as if they are non-existent and have had no impact.  Folks need to read more from the people of Israel, they are blaming their prime Ministers coddling and promotion of Hamas through his many terms. He has allowed  hordes of Qatari cash come through to Hamas over his years.  Bibi never wanted an actual government in Gaza. He is never wanted a two-state solution.  Having Hamas in power has made it easier for him to meet his end goals

  38. Willowarbor profile image61
    Willowarborposted 6 months ago

    Not sure where to post this but I'll go here because I will count it as a Biden win (simply because he is in office right now) if oil prices come down.

    Saudi Arabia could 'flush' the oil market with a flood of supply to regain control over prices in the face of rising US production, crude expert says.

    That comes as OPEC+ concluded its latest meeting where members pledged voluntary production cuts without giving firm commitments.

    Meanwhile, US crude output has been on a tear this year, hitting new record highs. (WHAT?!... SOMEONE GET JOE BACK TO THE BASEMENT)

    Saudi Arabia may flood the market with more oil supplies, reversing its production curbs, as the world's top crude exporter tries to regain control of prices, an energy market veteran said.

    For now, OPEC's de factor leader is trying to prop up crude by pumping less. On Thursday, it extended its cut of 1 million barrel per day into the first quarter.

    But Sankey noted Saudi Arabia shocked markets in 2014, when it similarly tried to flush the market by sinking crude prices from highs of around $110 a barrel to $50.

    The drop in prices eventually forced higher-cost producers to exit the market as pumping was no longer profitable. Meanwhile, Saudi Arabia continued to pump as it was better able to withstand lower prices. As supplies from its rivals disappeared, the kingdom was able to regain traction over prices.

    Back then, like today, booming US oil supply is a headache for OPEC and Saudi Arabia.  (WHAT?! BOOMING?..GOD BIDENS GONNA DESTROY THIS COUNTRY )And Sankey said Friday that the oil cartel has "a huge problem with US production levels." HMMM..., interesting isn't it? I thought they had the problem with Biden?
    US crude output has been on a tear this year, with monthly production hitting a record high in September at more than 13.2 million barrels a day, according to data from the Energy Information Administration.

    But please let's keep logic consistent on our right wing. If gas prices continue to fall, it will solely be to the credit of Biden and absolutely nothing due to OPEC deciding to flood the market... Just as the right-wing logic told us increasing prices were completely, 100% in the hands of Biden and absolutely nothing else impacted those prices.   

    https://markets.businessinsider.com/new … od-2023-12

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

      It would appear we may have a month's reprieve from high gas prices at best.

      OIL Dec 2, 2023
      Oil prices could reach $100 a barrel in 2024 if OPEC+ members fulfill pledges for voluntary cuts

      Oil prices are expected to rise in the new year after some OPEC+ oil producers voluntarily pledged to cut output.

      The oil cartel on Thursday released a statement that did not formally endorse production cuts, but individual countries announced voluntary reductions totaling 2.2 million barrels per day for the first quarter of 2024.

      Leading the cuts is OPEC kingpin and largest member Saudi Arabia. Riyadh agreed to extend its voluntary production cut of 1 million barrels per day — which has been in place since July — until the end of the first quarter of 2024. Russia said it will cut supply by 300,000 barrels per day of crude and 200,000 barrels per day of petroleum products over the same period.

      Iraq is cutting by 223,000 bpd, the United Arab Emirates by 163,000 bpd, Kuwait by 135,000 bpd, Kazakhstan by 82,000 bpd, Algeria by 51,000 bpd and Oman by 42,000 bpd.

      “Compliance is key. It can’t just be Saudi Arabia. We have to have compliance from the other OPEC nations,” Bill Perkins, CEO and head trader of Skylar Capital Management, told CNBC. “When these other nations say they’re going to cut, the market doesn’t trust it as much,” he added.

      The way the production cuts were announced also fueled traders’ confusion and skepticism. In previous announcements, the OPEC+ press release contained all relevant information. But on Thursday, individual member states issued separate statements on their voluntary cuts.

      If members do fulfill their pledged cuts, crude prices are set to climb.

      When the cuts expire at the end of the first quarter, these removed barrels will only return gradually, “which should help keep the oil market in deficit in 1H24,” UBS strategist Giovanni Staunovo wrote in a note following the decision, adding that he expects prices to rise in the undersupplied oil market.

      “If the compliance rate of the group improves from here, even more barrels could get removed,” Staunovo added.

      Similarly, Goldman Sachs forecasts higher prices, adopting a wait-and-see approach on OPEC+ members adhering to the proposed cuts.

      “We estimate a modest mechanical boost from the extra cut to Brent Dec24 prices of around $4/bbl relative our prior OPEC+ assumptions,” the investment bank said in a note, adding that it expects the group “can maintain Brent oil prices in the $80-$100 range in 2024.”

      Global benchmark Brent crude futures traded 0.25% lower at $80.66 a barrel Friday, while the U.S. West Texas Intermediate crude futures slipped 0.04% to $75.93 per barrel.

      —CNBC’s Ruxandra Iordache contributed to this report.

      https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/01/oil-pri … %20output.

  39. Ken Burgess profile image75
    Ken Burgessposted 6 months ago

    The thread that never dies...  in Biden's America:

    Crime is so bad in NYC that stores are locking up dish soap and laundry detergent.

    The Biden administration has been so weak against our enemies he actually continues to send them billions (Iran) while putting our forces in harm's way to fight the terrorists being funded with that money. (see Hamas, see Red Sea attacks on our ships)

    The Biden border invasion is now so bad that Border Patrol has to suspend training because they are too busy helping bring in all the illegal aliens arriving.

    Biden is so bad, the only thing substantial he's running on is the fact that gas costs a dollar more a gallon than when Biden took office.

    The rest of their strategy revolves around voter shaming, and threatening an end to democracy as we know it.  Which is exactly what they are themselves doing, trying to remove Trump from the ballots in key states and not even allowing for him to be written in.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

      One does have to laugh...    Some just cannot decipher facts from what they just want to believe.

  40. Willowarbor profile image61
    Willowarborposted 6 months ago

    The U.S. Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration reported that American oil production in the first week of October hit 13.2 million barrels per day, passing the previous record set in 2020 by 100,000 barrels. Weekly domestic oil production has doubled from the first week in October 2012 to now. Huh? Fake news? 

    Wait a minute... Oil output exceeding prepandemic levels?! .  Get this man back to the basement. He is on a literal tear.

    What kind of foolery is this..And it conflicts with repeated Republican talking points of a Biden "war on American energy.". Come on already is he at war with energy or not? Remember when the oil companies were whining how they were being constrained?

    And the biggest lol to those that call Biden a climate warrior...

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

      " passing the previous record set in 2020 by 100,000 barrels. "

      That stat means nothing in broader terms... We were in the middle of a lockdown, not in need of as much fuel. 

      https://www.bls.gov/opub/mlr/2020/artic … 20rebound.

      1. Willowarbor profile image61
        Willowarborposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        2020 was just when the previous record was set. He has now surpassed pre-pandemic levels.

        Crude and condensate production rose to a record 13.1 million barrels per day (b/d) in August, surpassing the previous peak of 13.0 million b/d set in November 2019 before the COVID-19 pandemic.

        https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodi … 0pandemic.

        The United States is poised to extract more oil and gas than ever before in 2023, a year that is certain to be the hottest ever recorded.

        https://www.theguardian.com/environment … l%20fuels.

        HOUSTON–The Permian Basin is back in full swing.

        According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, Permian oil production has returned to pre-pandemic levels and in October is expected to surpass the previous record of just under 4.8 million barrels a day set in early 2020.

        https://www.aogr.com/web-exclusives/exc … mic-levels

        U.S. production of crude oil reached the highest levels in 40 months as domestic production returned to pre-pandemic levels.

        https://www.thecentersquare.com/nationa … 29a9c.html

        Yep. Get the demented man back to the basement. He is single-handedly boosting oil production.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

          He has singlehandedly made problem after problem, and it will take many years to fix what he has done. I agree he needs to return to the basement.

          1. Ken Burgess profile image75
            Ken Burgessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Biden is not likely to be the nominee in 2024.

            His health is worse than they are admitting to.   They don't want him, and the way the DNC/Democrats operate, they can have him give up his delegations... or they will just declare him incompetent and move from him.

            Gavin Newsom is their guy, he has met with Xi a couple times already, the debate he had with Desantis was to help sell America on him and the idea of him being President... there is no other reason for him to have agreed to it.  I believe he was interviewed before/during the Republican debates as well... its their way of getting Americans ready for him, without giving away the fact that they are about to put Biden in a Box and get him out of the way, one way or another.

            I wasn't sure about this until recently, but the stories that are coming out about how bad Biden's health really is, pretty much convinced me its the only card they have to play.

            Its not like Americans would put Harris in as President... she's as dumb as a box of rocks and even more clueless about what is going on in the world than dementia Joe is.

            Putting her out in front of a camera on a regular basis would have hardcore Democrats voting for RFK Jr as the Independant, or whatever other choice they had other than Trump.

            I wish they would go with Harris, that would be the best way to ensure we get a change from the current Administration, and hopefully someone who will clean out DC... the FBI, CIA, DOJ, IRS which the President most certainly can do, he can clean them all out, which Trump didn't do, and it cost him.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

              I agree ---  It is very clear to me that in recent appearances Biden has become more unsteady on his feet, and he is having increasing problems with drawing on the proper words that are appropriate for questions he is asked.  He looks dazed, and I would think we won't see him in public. They that be are unable to prop him up any longer.

              In my view, I can't see them going with Harris, she appears so unintelligent.  However, it would be wonderful, it would give Republicans a win in 2024.

              I would imagine Trump is kicking himself for not cleaning the house when he had the chance. I would predict if he wins in 2024 we will see a complete housecleaning in every agency including DOJ, FBI, CIA, Military, you name it. 

              I also think Haily may go on a third-party ticket if Trump does not drop out.

              1. Ken Burgess profile image75
                Ken Burgessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Nikki Haley is the preferred choice of the "old" Republican Party.

                The "old" Republican Party is not the one that Trump brought into existence, which is the Blue Collar, America 1st screw the Global-NWO-Socialism party.

                She has no desire to go third-party, nor do her backers want that, they want her to replace Trump and/or DeSantis (who is also not really controllable like a DC insider such as Haley is).

                I think most Trump-Republican voters are aware of this, which is why replacing Trump is not working well, and if he is replaced the bulk of his supporters will swing to DeSantis... Haley reeks of establishment and that is not what Trump supporters want.

                The RINOs, the Neocons, the Globalists and the Socialist-Identity-Politics types will all support the Democrat nominee this election.

                The Moderates, the Libertarians, some of the "old" Democrats that have woken up to what has happened to the Democrat Party, and all America 1st types will vote Republican or Independent.

                Democrats are the Establishment, the FBI, CIA, DOJ, IRS   The MSM and Social Media Giants, the UN and the WEF, are all in bed with the Dems and some of the "old" Republicans still lingering around (IE - Lindsey Graham) the corrupt and tyrannical.

              2. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                I think this is a good time to offer this:

                A video titled "Feeble," posted by The Lincoln Project on Monday shared this with America:

                * First, Trump wasn't able to discern that what the Lincoln Project posted was authenticated archived copies of what Trump has said or done.

                * Trump struggles with trying to pronounce the word "anonymous."

                * In 2020, Trump appeared to be slurring his words during a speech in New Jersey, prompting even Fox to snicker.

                * CNN crafted a super-cut of Trump sniffling and slurring his words from 2017, when he was much younger. - https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/watch- … -speeches/

                * The narrator then asks: "Are you sure you don't have dementia," before answering the question in a hushed whisper with a still photo of Trump with his arm around his father. "It runs in the family." Fred Trump Sr. died of Alzheimer's Disease. (In case you didn't know, Alzheimer's is inherited.)

                * Not in the ad but Trump on several occasions wrote or spoke that his father was NOT born in NY.  In one case, it was in New Jersey and in two others it was in Germany.

                *  "And we did with Obama. We won an election," claiming he beat President Barack Obama in the 2016 election when it was former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

                * After being corrected twice in one interview, Trump tried to save it by saying they were all intentional. Joe Biden, he claimed, was really just Barack Obama pulling the strings. That's why he was referencing beating Obama. But, Trump didn't beat Biden in 2016 either.

                * Trump is  "Getting the facts wrong." The most recent example is of Trump not knowing which country Viktor Orbán leads.

                * Trump appeared next to first responders and leaders in the fire-ravaged town of Paradise, California, saying, "We just left Pleasure—" and multiple people corrected him. "Oh Paradise," he said.

                * The video does not mock him for walking around with a piece of toilet paper on his shoe, and losing his power, strength and even his manhood. What the video does show, however, is an open palm pouring out two Viagra pills.

                * The video does not mock him for walking around with a piece of toilet paper on his shoe, and losing his power, strength and even his manhood. What the video does show, however, is an open palm pouring out two Viagra pills.

                * Nor does it bring up his "Shining a light inside the body to kill Covid".

                Even looking at Trump at his rallies, he seems beat and tired, always hanging on to the podium.

                There is no way in the real world that Trump could keep up the schedule that Biden does day in and day out. He was much more interested in watching TV or playing golf than governing.

                *

                1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  It's evident that Trump struggles to articulate his words effectively, and he often gets facts wrong. Nevertheless, in my view, his problem-solving skills surpass those of many previous presidents. Given the current state of the country drowning in problems, I believe Trump could effectively address and resolve many of our pressing issues.

                  I find Trump exhibits a good energy level, he can certainly juggle many things at once, and keep his temperament in check.

                  I don't agree that Biden keeps a busy schedule. I feel he does very little on a day-to-day basis. Just my view. He appears feeble and unsure, and much of the time he searches for words  --- that never come.

  41. Willowarbor profile image61
    Willowarborposted 6 months ago

    Oil production on average is higher under President Biden than previous administrations on record.

    And Trump tells Hannity yesterday that on his first day in office he's going to "drill drill drill...lol. too late. 

    “If Biden’s elected, he will wipe out your energy industry.” -President Trump, 2020

    Oh my heavens, that didn't age well did it?

    The U.S. oil industry has thrived under President Biden. The share prices of energy companies have exploded since his inauguration, because their profits have surged.

    1. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

      U.S. crude oil production fell by 8% in 2020, the largest annual decrease on record due to the pandemic, and less need for fuel. Biden has now enjoyed (finally) getting back to Trump's era production. https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=50621#

      "U.S. crude oil production grew 11% in 2019, surpassing 12 million barrels per day. Annual U.S. crude oil production reached another record level at 12.23 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2019, 1.24 million b/d, or 11%, more than 2018 levels. The 2019 growth rate was down from a 17% growth rate in 2018."
      https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detai … in%202018.

      It seems many don't just look at the stat facts. I guess Joe needs to take credit where is not due,

      As he has regarding unemployment stats. I note he does not talk about the ongoing inflation, and the records he broke regarding inflation in 2021, and 2022. This administration has fallen back on what Trump built in my view.

      I would love to have him speak about the stats on our Border, sheer stats say it all. In my view, our borders are open, wide open.

      1. Willowarbor profile image61
        Willowarborposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        The U.S. Department of Energy’s Energy Information Administration reported that American oil production in the first week of October hit 13.2 million barrels per day, passing the previous record set in 2020 by 100,000 barrels. These are the facts, there's no way around them, Biden is in office and we are having record oil production therefore he gets 100% of the credit.

        The United States is poised to extract more oil and gas than ever before in 2023.  U.S. oil production , already the highest in the world,  is on track to set a new record this year, and will probably rise even more in 2024.


        The United States now producing more crude oil than at any other time in history...
        https://www.newsweek.com/united-states- … mp-1846864

        https://www.politico.com/news/2023/08/2 … n-00111626

        Biden wins. Let's not divert to the border but the same policies govern the border now as they did under Trump. Immigration law has not changed

        It really is pure partisanship when folks can't give credit where credit's due.

        If this was the Trump administration right now we will be hearing all sorts of praise on this forum. But because it's Biden, now it's just inconsequential like it doesn't even matter anymore.  I just don't understand the inconsistent logic

        1. wilderness profile image94
          wildernessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          The laws have not change particularly, but our response to them surely has.  Trump did not fly illegal aliens all over the country under cover of darkness...

          1. Willowarbor profile image61
            Willowarborposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Again, there is a new lawsuit against Biden concerning immigration every other week but it is never brought by Republicans and when they have brought a lawsuit it's been struck down in conservative courts.

            If he is breaking the law in terms of not enforcing the law where are the suits?

            Am I really to believe that Republican lawmakers would not file lawsuits if he were acting outside of the law? That's laughable

            1. wilderness profile image94
              wildernessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              What's laughable is that you appear to think that Congress, and the President, does not operate outside the law when it wishes to.

              It is also laughable that you think that anything inside the law is the proper thing to do - that if it is legal then it is the best thing for the country.

              1. Willowarbor profile image61
                Willowarborposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Republicans bring lawsuits on the Biden administration all the time, on every issue. Except immigration.  They understand, completely that there is little to nothing he can do to prevent people from showing up at the border.

                1. Ken Burgess profile image75
                  Ken Burgessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  Well that just flies in the face of innumerous posts I have made explaining how the Global Compact on Migration and all associated UN and NGO efforts have worked in conjunction with the Biden Administration to make the growing waves of migrations occur... but whatever.

                2. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  However, previous presidents certainly kept the numbers down and worked toward solutions. Biden's solutions spell --- Come on down, we will be hiring more staff to expedite your entry.

            2. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

              Your reasoning is baffling. If the current laws in any circumstances are not working, it is up to the president and his administration and or Congress to come up with sensible ways to solve problems. Early on Biden put forth a bill that was so ludicrous it was not considered.  In my view this bill does nothing but encourage more to make their way to the border.
              https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-roo … on-system/

              As of late all his ideas involve how to process illegals into America, even putting up a website where migrants can accelerate the process. He appears to hope to increase the number, rather than get some control over the numbers that are presenting at the border.

              Our law dictates a ceiling ---  U.S. Annual Refugee Resettlement Ceilings and Number of Refugees Admitted, 1980-Present
              "This data tool shows refugee admissions and annual resettlement ceilings since inception of the U.S. refugee resettlement program in 1980. The number of persons who may be admitted to the United States as refugees each year is established by the President in consultation with Congress. For fiscal year (FY) 2024, the ceiling was set at 125,000, as it was each of the two prior years. Refugees are individuals who are unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin or nationality because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion."

              Each month Bidens has been in office we have witnessed more than 125,000 approach our borders. The great majority admitted to waiting for an asylum hearing. Many never show up for their hearing, and just stay illegally in America.

              1. Willowarbor profile image61
                Willowarborposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Legislation/laws happen in Congress not in the executive branch. The Republican section of the house seems incapable of doing just about anything these days. But what interest do they have in changing any current immigration law? This is a campaign issue for them.  They understand full well that the American public does not understand immigration law whatsoever. 

                Yes there are many more people migrating around the globe and there are many reasons for it but I'm sure no one here would be interested in any of them.  You know, keep it on a singular focus. No impacting conditions. Biden operates as a sole entity, entirely in a vacuum.

                As far as his ideas, he is operating under the law he is bound by, what other choice does he have?   He presented a bill on day one that at least could have been a starting point for some compromises. Instead, no one did anything.  Brilliant.

                1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  He could respect one law -- As many previous presidents made an effort to do. Your excuses in my view, are fluffy, and show little to no sense in the light of such a serious crisis.

                     "Our law dictates a ceiling ---  U.S. Annual Refugee Resettlement Ceilings and Number of Refugees Admitted, 1980-Present
                  "This data tool shows refugee admissions and annual resettlement ceilings since the inception of the U.S. refugee resettlement program in 1980. The number of persons who may be admitted to the United States as refugees each year is established by the President in consultation with Congress. For fiscal year (FY) 2024, the ceiling was set at 125,000, as it was each of the two prior years. Refugees are individuals who are unable or unwilling to return to their country of origin or nationality because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion."

          2. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            No, DeSantis and Abbott do that.

            1. Ken Burgess profile image75
              Ken Burgessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              Just curious Eso, if Biden has the country knee deep in WWIII fighting Russia, Iran, China and who knows who else, will you still be espousing what a great leader he is?

              A dementia riddled President leading us into a multi-front world war against nations with a combined Industrial might that dwarfs our own, that would be the best.

    2. My Esoteric profile image87
      My Esotericposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      Remember Willow, you live in the real world full of checkable facts.  The other side still believes the election was stolen, lol.

      1. Ken Burgess profile image75
        Ken Burgessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        Checkable facts... well... that depends on what sources you trust.

        These days that also depends on what faith you believe in, if you kneel at the alter of Identity Politics or Christianity or Islam or whatever.

        You know... the Pillars of our Civilization today are Cheap Energy, Meritocracy, Law and Order, and Free Speech... and all four of these things are currently being threatened... and it isn't because of Trump.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

          so well said ---

    3. Sharlee01 profile image89
      Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

      The reason for oil companies thriving under Biden is clear, and I am surprised anyone would bring that up --- curious.

      Biden went after oil companies on his first day in office. And oh my did energy prices rise... from gas to untilties. They have had an out-and-out price boom, and we have paid the price for Biden's mistake. 

      It's so odd you would not have thought this one out a bit more.  Under Trump, we enjoyed great discounts on energy, and he kept the oil producers in check. Biden was a dream come true. I know so well, I invest in Oil

      "Exxon and Chevron each logged their biggest profits ever in 2022, and the share price of each hit a new record high in 2023. The two firms' financial performance so far in 2023 is close to last year's record pace, which is why each can make a $60 billion acquisition as easily as some companies buy staplers or toner."

      So, old Joe has made oil companies billions --- Trump not so much...  I should say Americans made oil companies billions, all under Biden's quest to cut oil and make the planet green --- lol  So, yes, you said a mouthful of oil production is up, and we are still paying at the pump.

      I would not be at all surprised that many of our Washington reps as well as Joe and his family have not become very rich due to the actions he took on oil.   

      Makes one wonder...

      1. Willowarbor profile image61
        Willowarborposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        This seems like a clear departure from other posts that you have made in the past concerning how oil producers hated Biden and were quite friendly with Trump
        I thought in a capitalistic society it was good for corporations to thrive and make as much money as possible?
        I thought that many wanted the oil companies to drill drill drill and that's exactly what they've been doing. They've hit an all-time record for production, this is not to be applauded? LOL from a man that extremists said would wipe out the oil industry. 

        How was this missed?

        New Data: Biden’s First Year Drilling Permitting Stomps Trump’s By 34%..

        New federal data shows the Biden administration approved 3,557 permits for oil and gas drilling on public lands in its first year, far outpacing the Trump administration’s first-year total of 2,658.

        Nearly 2,000 of the drilling permits were approved on public lands administered by the Bureau of Land Management’s New Mexico office, followed by 843 in Wyoming, 285 in Montana and North Dakota, and 191 in Utah. In California, the Biden administration approved 187 permits — more than twice the 71 drilling permits Trump approved in that state in his first year.

        I'm sure that climate activists are upset but the oil lovers on the right should be ecstatic

        https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/news/ … 022-01-21/

      2. Willowarbor profile image61
        Willowarborposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        This is the previous post from you..

        "First one may want to consider, America's Oil and gas resources are privately owned, not by governments as in some other parts of the world. We have free enterprise, and Government has no right to dictate to privately owned companies. These companies have shareholders that they are required to look out for. These companies are about employing citizens, making money, and staying solvent. This has been a preferred
        ideology known as capitalism. The US has done well under capitalism.

        The oil companies worked with Trump, they won't cut off their noses to please Biden. Biden borders on " state-controlled energy" The oil industry is one of our biggest industries. It helps keep our nation rich, providing the cleanest energy, and millions of high-paying jobs."


        Are you not satisfied that the oil companies are making lots of money and paying lots of dividends? It seems that you were before.
        It seems the logic has shifted from one president to the next.   Praise for  Trump in terms of oil production but when Biden tops it it turns into a potential scandal?

        I hold the view that presidents don't have much control over oil.  I took on the   position in logic that so many on this forum employee, that is the president is 100% responsible for anything and everything that happens while in office.   But when I do that, the logic of others flips. It doesn't remain consistent. MAGA supporters, when faced with a positive accomplishment of the Biden administration, shift their logic to find a way to say that he can't possibly be responsible for anything positive or that tops Trump.

        1. Sharlee01 profile image89
          Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

          "Are you not satisfied that the oil companies are making lots of money and paying lots of dividends? It seems that you were before.
          It seems the logic has shifted from one president to the next.   Praise for  Trump in terms of oil production but when Biden tops it it turns into a potential scandal?"

          As I said  ---  Under Trump, we enjoyed great discounts on energy, and he kept the oil producers in check.  Biden was a dream come true. I know so well, that I invest in Oil. So, does that statement not share my pleasure?

          Trump surely had the oil companies in check, he had them still making profits, but not at the cost of Americans paying more.  The oil companies saw a future with Trump's Pium baby pump policies. He was very liberal with leases, and pumping on federal land. They loved him, he was not threatening to shut them down, as Biden did.  They had it all, good profits with a promising future.  Biden tweaked their noses big time. They fought back, and I would say as of today, they won.

          Biden looks foolish he promised to decrease oil production to ensure a greener planet... LOL

          Domestic production is projected to reach an all-time record high of 12.9 million barrels a day by the end of this year, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. A data analysis by E&E News also shows that the Bureau of Land Management has approved MORE oil and gas leases on federal lands during Biden’s first two years and seven months as president than former President Trump did during the same amount of time at the beginning of his administration.

          This data, in my view,  underscores  Biden's energy policies, this will likely be a focus of the 2024 presidential race: What is driving oil and gas production to record levels under Biden, and how much are the gains the result of decisions and policies made by his administration?  AND - Why is the surge failing to keep gasoline prices in check, and is the Biden administration doing enough to help consumers?

          In my view, he is the worst kind of liar, he will tell anyone what they want to hear, and yet know he is lying as the words leave his mouth.

          I need not remind you, that I am a pure capitalist, I am sure I have shared that with you before.  I like living in a country that is considered one of the richest. Without big industry, without oil, and technology, we would be looked at as just another country that did not thrive.

          I can't disagree that oil companies cutting the price of oil momentarily, due to pumping more is a good thing or a bad thing. It's a momentary thing. Most likely first of the year, we will watch the price of oil rise due to OPEC stating they will be cutting back on pumping. As I said the oil companies win in the end. They strive to stay in business and make dividends for investors. 

          I must ask, does it please you to see Boden go back on his promise to cut pumping, yet he did not, and time and time again asked OPEC, as well as US oil companies to pump more?  I am certainly happy with the increased pumping, it may lower prices and add profits to oil producers. Ultimately this will cause Biden a problem in the 2024 election with many who hoped he would support his promise of decreasing oil output, to ensure a cleaner planet.

          "I hold the view that presidents don't have much control over oil."

          I agree, and Biden's mistakes are good proof of that.  When push comes to shove, we still need oil, and stats show we are using more oil than before. I don't feel this is a good thing, but it is where we are. 

          https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/artic … s-much-oil
          https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=709&t=6

          1. Willowarbor profile image61
            Willowarborposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            Trump surely had the oil companies in check, he had them still making profits, but not at the cost of Americans paying more.

            How exactly?  Should a president have private corporations "in check"? What exactly did he do to make them set aside their own goals for profits?

            politicians in both parties have called for a seemingly easy solution: Drill our way out of the problem to ease prices at the pump.

            the US is already the world’s top producer of crude oil, we are also the world’s largest consumer of oil. Buried under US soil lies an estimated 38.2 billion barrels worth of proven oil reserves that are still untapped.  But there’s a big impediment to the US using that oil: It tends to be lighter and different from the heavier imported oil we currently rely on. Here in the US we consume a different kind of oil than we produce.... So Trump's  "drill drill drill"..yes, just more money for the oil companies and dividends for its shareholders... Means nothing for the price we will pay.  Let's use the same logic to compare administrations.

            The idea that the US can be fully energy independent  and that it would combat rising gas prices is a fantasy.

            Can the US wall itself off from volatility in the global oil market?   Their goals? No we can't.  OPEC is not going to diminish their goals and profits  for our country, no matter who sits in the White House.

            Oil is a global commodity.  The global price of oil determines gas prices in the US. 

            The US gets the vast majority of its imported crude oil from Canada, Mexico and
            Saudi Arabia. Organizations like OPEC+ have a huge influence on prices, which fluctuate due to production targets and profit goals.   This applied to the Trump administration as well as the Biden administration. No difference.

            Yes letting American oil companies drill as much as they want increases their profits but does not necessarily reduce our prices at the pump for the reasons outlined.  We are dependent on foreign oil.   Let's apply the same logic to both people.  The facts are the facts regardless of who sits in the office.

            1. Sharlee01 profile image89
              Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

              "Trump surely had the oil companies in check, he had them still making profits, but not at the cost of Americans paying more."

              "Saudi Arabia. Organizations like OPEC+ have a huge influence on prices, which fluctuate due to production targets and profit goals.   This applied to the Trump administration as well as the Biden administration. No difference."

              yes, that is a fact...  However,

              Trump cut regulations, opened more leases, and promoted new refineries to be built, to handle the oil under our soil,  as well as pipelines. He had the oil companies investing.  Companies were pumping to the needs of the country, and the world working well with OPEC. The oil market was steady much of the time, and the oil companies made good profits, and prices were low due to good control.  Plus, the US was starting to export more oil than they ever had, under Trump.  He made careful decisions, and they paid off.

              Knowing volatile oil prices can send shockwaves throughout the global economy. Changes in the production and consumption of oil also drive prices. He got involved in the oil war between Russia and Saudi Arabia.

              I don't think many know how he ended the war between Oil-producing nations and got them to agree to the largest production cut ever negotiated, in an unprecedented coordinated effort by Russia, Saudi Arabia, and the United States to stabilize oil prices and, indirectly, global financial markets. We were facing a real financial downfall if the oil war continued. We could have seen a worldwide recession, that would have been devastating to our economy as well as the economy of the world.

              Saudi Arabia and Russia take the lead in setting global production goals. But President Trump, facing a re-election campaign, a plunging economy, and American oil companies struggling with collapsing prices, took the unusual step of getting involved after the two countries entered a price war.

              It was unclear, however, whether the cuts would be enough to bolster prices. Before the coronavirus crisis hit us, 100 million barrels of oil each day fueled global commerce, but demand fell swiftly.  While significant, the cuts agreed on did fall somewhat short of what is needed to bring oil production in line with demand. It did work to stop a market crash and any rise in inflation.

              By the end of Trump's term, we were purchasing very little oil from other nations.

              1. gmwilliams profile image84
                gmwilliamsposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                Exactly!

                1. Sharlee01 profile image89
                  Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

                  Yes.... Does it shock you how some in our society have such skewed memories?

  42. My Esoteric profile image87
    My Esotericposted 6 months ago

    Good to see President Biden's superb leadership paying off with a good economy.

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/08/economy/ … index.html

    1. gmwilliams profile image84
      gmwilliamsposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      What?????

      1. Sharlee01 profile image89
        Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

        What she said

        1. gmwilliams profile image84
          gmwilliamsposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          I was responding to Esoteric's response.  The economy is far from great.  Most people would rate the American economy an F minus.

          1. Sharlee01 profile image89
            Sharlee01posted 6 months agoin reply to this

            I agreed with your response to him   --- "What???"

    2. wilderness profile image94
      wildernessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

      Yes it's great that we employed more in health care - we have a desperate need for doctors and nurses to care for the millions of illegal aliens that have invaded.

      It's not so great that government is expanding - it mostly means taxes must rise to pay those people.

      Meanwhile we continue to suffer from inflation, even as Biden and the government claim it is down and everything is rosy there...while most of us are cutting our expenditures and doing without because we can't afford to live as we were before he took office and gave away Trillions government did not have.

      A magnificent achievement.  As long as we don't mind cutting our standard of living, anyway.

      1. gmwilliams profile image84
        gmwilliamsposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        +100000000, inflation is at an all time high.  Yes, people are suffering from inflation.   The value of a dollar is at the lowest it has ever been.  It has gotten much worse instead of better.

        1. Willowarbor profile image61
          Willowarborposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          Any stats to back up those claims?  Inflation at an all-time high? And the dollar and its lowest point ever?

      2. My Esoteric profile image87
        My Esotericposted 6 months agoin reply to this

        "Yes it's great that we employed more in health care - we have a desperate need for doctors and nurses to care for the millions of illegal aliens that have invaded." - PROOF please that this is true.  Without it, it is just histrionics and hyperbole.

        "It's not so great that government is expanding - it mostly means taxes must rise to pay those people."  -  PROVE that claim.  Wouldn't the current budgets already appropriate money for these people?  Show where these are BRAND NEW jobs not already budgeted for.

        "Meanwhile we continue to suffer from inflation," - NO, we are not.  Inflation is only 3.2%, well below the average.  Facts Matter.

        "while most of us are cutting our expenditures and doing without " - PROVE that as well.  Wouldn't that mean the poverty rate is climbing? Well, it is not.  The only time in the last 33 years is in 2019.

        1. Ken Burgess profile image75
          Ken Burgessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

          I think that is true, facts do matter.

          The recent lower, yet still positive, 12-month inflation rate is a misleading indicator. It ignores the multiplier effect.

          Inflation's flip side is a currency's purchasing power loss. So, it's like compound interest in reverse, as each month's positive inflation rate (no matter the size) worsens the accumulated purchasing power damage.

          If inflation goes all the way down to ZERO it still does not undo the damage done, that the dollar has lost 30% of its purchasing power in the last 3 years.

          Inflation was caused by the "printing" of money into existence, the government gave out Trillions during the Pandemic, then Biden funded his 1.9 Trillion Build Back Better Act, the second part of Biden’s infrastructure and social spending legislation, which combined with the $1.2 trillion Infrastructure and Investment act, the Inflation Reduction Act, and lets not forget the pains of not only funding Ukraine's war, but the impact that has had on costs and trade.

          Honestly... I don't know how many Trillions they spent, but I know just last year the government spent 2 Trillion more than they took in, that means they "printed" money into existence to cover those expenses which devalues the dollar.

          Worsening this... the Fed tried to kill the high inflation cycle it created, so it continues raise interest rates higher.

          Worse is yet to come, the Fed needs to reverse its enormous, uncorrected Fed Covid-19 action... The money created by the Fed’s 2020-2021 Trillions of long-term bond purchases.

          The Fed has said it is dealing with the issue, but it is not. It has not sold the bonds because they were bought at very low yields (much higher prices) and the unrealized losses (not reported until the bonds are sold), are enormous. This is the same problem that many regional banks created for themselves.

          Speaking of banks, the changes made to the banking system doomed us to a future collapse, requiring them to keep nothing in reserve, removing restrictions put in place to keep from having a complete economic meltdown... so the nuclear timebomb is ticking on that problem as well... this is part of the reason why we have seen waves of bank failures, the next wave to hit might do the entire system in.

          So... the point I am making is that Inflation may only be 2 or 3% now... but that does not, in any way, undo the damage already done, or the costs to come.

          We are going to spend 1 Trillion dollars this year just to pay the interest on the Nation's debt... I don't know how much longer they will keep things afloat, but I would be making whatever financial plans that you can, to be ready for a collapse to hit after November 2024... at the latest.

          1. My Esoteric profile image87
            My Esotericposted 6 months agoin reply to this

            "Inflation was caused by the "printing" of money into existence, " - That can certainly be true, BUT, not in this case.  Excess demand coupled with shortages in supply were the culprit here.

            "removing restrictions put in place to keep from having a complete economic meltdown..." - YES, Republicans did a good job there, just as they did in 2000 setting up the 2008 recession.

            1. Ken Burgess profile image75
              Ken Burgessposted 6 months agoin reply to this

              The statement made was no attempt to play politics or point blame specifically at Biden.

              Sometimes you just need to tell people the truth... however... nothing done during the Biden Administration helped matters... spending money that didn't need to be spent chasing Green Energy and Inflation Reduction (come on)... funding a war that did not need to occur, a war that has harmed global trade and aligned half the world against America, has nations bailing on the Dollar... yeah, Biden poured gas onto the fire.

              1. My Esoteric profile image87
                My Esotericposted 6 months agoin reply to this

                What nations are "bailing" on the dollar?  Last I checked, it is pretty strong.

                1. Ken Burgess profile image75
                  Ken Burgessposted 6 months agoin reply to this