Here is the menu to the White House Super Bowl party! Lol no vegtables here!
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/20 … bowl-menu/
As usual with democrats its do as I say not as I do!
Today she's having a conference call with the media to tout her "Move On" program oh... but no questions allowed!! Lol! Of course not!
Do you blame her for not allowing question? There are more people like you and jim that would disrupt things with questions that express your right to be wrong.
I believe there is a psychiatric condition called "emotional arrested development."
Have sympathy for the afflicted.
She is secretly pushing us to eat veggies so she can horde the meat.
wouldn't you agree that the Super Bowl is a special occassion? That it would be normal to loosen dietary regiments? I think your making a mountain out of a mole hill. It harms your credibility on real issues......
Did you even take the time to notice that SALAD is on this menu?
You appear to have a not so hidden agenda.
Lol! Leave it to the left to find some way to spin the truth to their benefit! Next you'll tell me they served ketchup and onions to promote their new vegitarian life style!
Does it matter? Haters are going to be haters.
This is absurd.
Not really! Have you seen how many calories are in the salad at Taco bell? More than 1000!! In fact their salads have more calories than anything else on their menu!! It's got nothing to do with hate! Hate comes from the left towards anyone that disagrees with their views or opposes their agenda of oppression!!
This is pathetic rationalization. This anger is intense. You must be absolutely miserable.
I disagree getit, She is happy as a pig in dodo everytime she sees a fat kid. It's job security for her.
Lady, you said that "Hate comes from the left towards anyone that disagrees with their views or opposes their agenda of oppression!!"
Where does your hate of America come from?
What??? I love America!!! What I hate are progressive proposals designed to destroy her!!
And you feel that teaching American children to eat healthier and exercise more is destroying America in what way?
I noticed you haven't been by the hub I mentioned, Not suprising considering your aversion to facts and the truth if it disagrees with your self serving perception of it.
As a healthcare worker you are fully aware of the problems associated with obesity and you stand on the mountain screaming to maintain the current level of fatness that pays your bills.
You people on the left just LOVE to make stuff up! You have no RESPECT for the truth you spin every argument to fit your agenda! Now YOU are going to tell ME and everybody else here what I feel? LOL! And you are clearly mischaracterizing my position which I have stated clearly more than once in this thread and you do so only to demonize ME because you dislike my views! Typical liberal strategy! LOL
Oh and by the way, STOP PROMOTING YOUR HUBS IN THIS FORUM!
I'm not promoting my hubs I'm asking you to stop by one and disprove my statements. I asked no one else other than your trained parrot Jim to stop by and comment. Neither one of you will go anywhere near anything that even looks like proveable facts. Nicde try to change the subject. I suppose you must be running out of party lines to spew and now seek to have someone who disagrees with you and backs up their statements reported. Weak minds always fold under the slightest bit of pressure dont they. Cant offer a reasonable answer, find a way to attack, Amen.
"I asked no one else other than your trained parrot Jim to stop by and comment. Neither one of you will go anywhere near anything that even looks like proveable facts."
What are you babbling about?
By the way its PROVABLE...Thats a fact
Oh, my bad! I misjudged it as abject bigotry.
Of course, no one with any sense at all takes her seriously! She is so funny and predictable!
and you refuse to post your opinions where they can be found with a search, or linked directly to you. You feel strongly about your opinions but refuse to publish them under your own hub pages identity. Better a liberal sheep than a conservative jackass.
I answer one of your rediculous statements in a hub under my regular name and offer supportting evidience for my claims and statements. You post random ignorance and feel like we should kiss your butt for the priviledge of hearing it. I grew up in the south and I heard your brand of hatred on a regular basis. It was right before and right after the local KKK meetings. Liberals are your new "nigger" of choice, Hates still the same ,you just found a new target for it. That is not a racist statement so get your head out of your butt and wipe the crap out of your eyes, before you prove to yourself just how ignorant and despicable you are, You prefer children to continue dying rather than allow the dems to push for an improvement in their health. You need serious mental help lady.
Hypocrite is right! Mrs. "Chewbacha" Obama needs to deal with her own weight issues and eating habits before trying to tell anyone else how to eat, live or whatever. HYPOCRITE!
it has both "salad" and "potato salad" on there...
... those are vegetables...
WOW…lighten up Lady-L…It’s a ONCE a YEAR celebration. Please correct the menu to your healthy choice. I don't think you're happy.
Oh, it was the superbowl... Anything goes!!!
lol Mrs. Obama more likely to eat the cake and leave the carrots and potatoes for us.
They should be careful with those pretzels, they've tried to kill presidents before. In 2001, President Bush was almost taken out by a Rold Gold while watching the Super Bowl (although I suspect it was a conspiracy involving the Russians).
It doesn't take much insight to see the THEME of the Super Bowl party food. It's all about the 2 teams -- Wisconsin is known for cheese and brats and Germans and beer. Pittsburgh is why they had the HANOVERS (of PENNSYLVANIA) pretzels. I was going to ask why no Philly cheesesteaks but then caught myself -- Pittsburgh is not Philly!
Clearly this was all-American PARTY FOOD. The Obamas don't eat like this every day.
But people like LaLo, Jim and Brenda would find fault no matter what Michelle Obama served.
If she served only veggies, fruit, skim milk and lean meat you would spin it as government control of our food intake.
In short: It doesn't matter what the Obamas do or don't do, you are going to pick, pick, pick at them every day until that last day of the second term in office! Go ahead, knock yourselves out. No, really. Go bang your head against the wall some more.
Maybe it will knock some sense into at least one of you.
Lol! You're right I would critize her for telling Americans what to eat no matter what she served... but you have to admit the hypocrisy sends a confusing message to all the fat kids that look to her for guidance on their diets.
And whats the message you send young Americans?
You dont approve of Democrats?
Wow thats deep
No... democrats are socialists... they're evil and they will enslave us all using the youth to do it pretending to be for freedom and equality... that's the message... the message of truth.
And we all appreciate the objectivity you bring to reporting the message of truth.....
Yes, if we would all just think like you! LOLOLOLOLOL!
Lady, try this and see if it helps...click your heels together and say, there's no news like faux news. there's no news like faux news. It's been shown to calm the fears of faux news fans when they get anywhere near the truth.
In case your wondering it's Murdork behind the curtain.
Let's see. evil socialists want to deprive all but the rich the right to health care.
They want to deprive women of the right to decide what they do with their bodies.
They want to deprive the poor of the basic necessaries of life.
I've got that right? Yes?
Wait a minute, I thought all the evil socialists were on the left. Now I'm confused. I better tune into fox and get my daily dose of mental d-katol.
d-katol? is that a powerful laxative for the mind?
I see all you libs are confused... try this... look around at ll the socialist countries and tell me are people thee better off? Are they free?
Well, I'd hesitate to call the UK a socialist country but you seem to think it is, we're more free than you are. What about Sweden they're freer than you are.
Wake up and look around you, you aren't free and you aren't better off.
Here's how you can tell if a country is better than the next... are people trying to get in or are they trying to get out?
John - they want to deprive the poor of health care - and deny women authority over their own bodies - and plunge the middle class into poverty because they love freedom...
Wow. You do get all hot and bothered dontcha? Are you maybe kin to someone else around here who's out for blood?
I didn't say one word about what Michelle eats, yet you blasted me. Maybe you could chill out. Whatever!
But now that ya brought my name into the food issue, I'll say I don't care what the heck Michelle eats or serves; and when she tries to tell anyone else what to eat, suggests it or whatever, I just ignore her like everyone else should.
But yeah I agree with ladylove that it seems hypocritical what Michelle's done.
There is no use Brenda. Lalo is a flat out bad person. No humanity. Flat out lies and misrepresentations. Personally, she is not a good human being. There is no point in trying to work in a call for responsibility or humanity when dealing with her.
What alternate universe are you residing in?
LaLo I give you credit for admitting it!
As I just posted on another thread, when politicians hold themselves up as standard-bearers they have to walk the walk. If they fall, they fall deeper and harder than those who don't profess to be standard-bearers.
Still, on the issue of Super Bowl Sunday, I think it's generally agreed that it's a holiday of sorts (a la Thanksgiving and Christmas) and the usual nutrition rules or guidelines are suspended. I did see some articles about "lightening up" your Super Bowl fare. I didn't even open the emails. If you're gonna splurge, splurge!
This woman gets a lot of views doing propaganda doesn't she? Man, I guess I should try that too.
If you mean the original poster, well, don't worry; the libs are just as prevalent or moreso at posting threads that get lotsa views!
Everyone loves drama and what generates more drama than lying hypocrite socialist democrats with the arrogance to dictate what others should? Lol
I'm thinking the same thing...it's almost like hysteria the way she goes at them....is there some hidden agenda?
People might have hated Bush, but I never saw anyone go after Laura....I mean ---SHE liked Tex-Mex....Ooooooooh--Immigrant Lover!!!bash bash bash bash...she's un-American for liking Mexican food!! Get rid of her.
I admit I have an agenda... educate the masses on the evil of liberalism, progressivesism and democrats in general but too much government in particular which is becoming oppressive and burdesome, stifling individual freedom and acting against our interest by their fiscal irresponsibility!
My comment about you and your attitude toward Michelle Obama (and President Obama) was more general, not specific to food.
If I am incorrect, and you have said something positive (or even neutral) about either one of them -- ever -- I apologize for including you.
If and when they ever do something that can be considered positive, then I might say so. As far as neutral, well....let's see....they are both human beings and sometimes photogenic.
That's the best I can come up with, since there's a shortage of positive material to work with.
Good enough! I hereby retract my suggestion that you continue knocking your head against the wall:)!
I will say this. First Ladies seem to have a history of
selecting and championing a single cause. They become associated with that cause overand above anything else they do. And if the cause is at all controversial or ends up being collossal waste of resources and money ("Just Say NO!" comes to mind), it taints our view of the First Lady.
But it's their choice what they want to champion, I suppose.
The Just Say No campaign was a great one.
It actually called for people to take personal responsibility and make good decisions about something that's a LOT more important than french fries and tacos.
How anyone can consider that a colossal waste of money and resources is beyond me.
did you support Nancy's use of of a anti-Christian astrology, Brenda?
But I'm not privvy to all the facts. Did she continue to engage in astrology?
I watched a documentary about Reagan the other night and it mentioned Nancy's delving into astrology some.
I think she was grasping at straws without depending on God. But I can understand her temptation, since she was trying, I hear, to protect Ronald from future assassination attempts. But yes she was wrong. She was also wrong, I think, on pushing for stem cell research, something Ronald didn't agree with.
We shouldn't play God, no matter how tempting and no matter if it IS "for a good cause"....
Why would anyone care what the first lady does in her spare time? What's different about Michelle is she's taken on this obesity issue pushing for mandates on what's served in school growing her garden and now telling resturants to make their servings smaller, but none of that applies to the ruling elite and with the size of her backside I say it should apply to her!
i think the faith of the first family is important... going to Church and then coming back the the White House to look at what Uranus says about your future is hypocritical.
Faith??? What "faith"?? The Obama's worship at the altar of power!
I don't see how you come to that conclusion! Anyway, I don't care what people want to worship as long as their beliefs don't affect me!
you said it and I agree!
I had forgotten about her trying to get restaurants to serve smaller portions!
That's where she indeed has stuck her nose...errr..her backside into things that are none of her business!
I think she is halfway to the afterlife already, so she probably doesn't need the middle man
That "Just say no" campaign was a total waste wasn't it?
Don't forget Laura Bush and her attempts at ending illiteracy...shameful
LOL apparently the left ignored Laura's campaign!
Laura Bush is a saint. She had to be on a mission from God to stay married to W. lol
so what, Nancy Regan told everyone to just say no to drugs...
and she smoked pot every Wednesday night with her astrologist
Mmmhhhh! Cheeseburgers good!!!!
Now get off your big butt and eat a carrot.
Eat what you want, when you want, get obese, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, die early and be happy, because nobody can suggest what 'I' should eat!
It is very interesting to see El Presidente with such a big helping of french fries and then to listen to Michelle say that were gettin fat - such a contradiction.
And that white house menu... What more can be said - at least their gettin protein from the beer(lol).
I'll tell you what, Michelle claims Barack has quit smoking for a year now... well I don't believe it! Everyone I know that has ever quit smoking has gained weight and have you seen how skinny Barack has gotten!
E X E R C I S E . I thought you worked in the healthcare industry. No wonder our healthcare system is in such shambles. It's people like you who still retain the right to vote that is killing this country. You might try turning on your brain before you open your mouth. Never mind, You have shown little that proves you have a brain that functions. He said no to cigarettes but we know from one of your posts on another subject, you feel that no means no unless it measn yes. Does this statement apply to smoking in the same way you feel it applies to a woman getting raped?
Boner better not quit then, he's chunky enough already.
Wow....what a waste of time and energy this thread represents.....
Too many people with not much to do, I suppose.....
yeah maybe the first lady should begin monitoring time wasted in forums?
LOL! I have no doubt that's coming next after all it isn't "green" and we all know how Michelle feels about Facebook!
Ehhhhh, too late! Already happening.....
Total Information Awareness Network, circa 2002: IE Your hero's term.
I find the whole thing so funny. I do not eat much meat, but it is a personal choice.
I did not need a nanny to teach me about nutrition because it was something I decided for myself.
The old saying "you can lead a drunk to a bar but you can't make him buy a round" lol
Its just sooo stupid! You can't sit up in the halls of power telling everyone what they should do while you do the opposite! That just makes you look arrogant and lacking in credability.
"I did not need a nanny to teach me about nutrition because it was something I decided for myself."
Judging from the rampant obesity in this country, a lot of people do need someone to teach them about nutrition. How can you criticize Michelle Obama for advocating more healthful diets for children and adults. It's traditional for first ladies to lend their support for non-controversial programs as she is doing. I suspect that you would be critical of whatever she has done and however she dressed and whatever she said.
Yes, and it really makes one wonder why.
There are lots of groups who serf the net and sling doodoo at people. Hasbarats are one....maybe these are race-barats?
I praise her for bringing awareness to the problem but the least she could do is set a good example!
Don't bashed Mitchelle, everyone eat junk food and a lot of meat while they are watching the Super Bowl or any other sports on weekends. It doesn't hurt to break the rules every once in a while to enjoy life.
Of course! Rules are only for the little people!! Lol
How many little people are left in this country of fat slobs. Obesity is responsible for billions of dolars of extra healthcare costs and thousands of deaths every year. As a healthcare worker I have to wonder why you would complain about any attempts to improve the health of this country. Of course it does seem that the last thing healthcare workers want is a healthy country. Better for the bottom line for the country to remain obese isn't it lady?
I'm sure you also have a problem with promoting regular exercise for children don't you? The Obama's are infringing on America's right to raise fat, sickly, children aren't they? The party of no, says no to healthy children. Real intelligent lady. Do you have any idea how rediculous you are?
On the contrary Im in favor of Michelle promoting health eating and exercise... so how about doing so by example instead of by government dictate! Oh and how about eliminating farm subsidies for corn resulting in HFCS being added to everything we eat?
Unless you are an obese child, then "NO CAKE FOR YOU, and I DON'T CARE WHAT YOUR PARENTS SAY!!"
It never seems to amaze me how we can be so perfect and we find the least little thing about someone else and blow it up to the size of a mountain.
Oh yea that person over their isn't doing a good job while we're doing nothing!
This thread reached new depths of ridiculousness.
Complaining about about Michelle Obama's fat butt (she does not have a fat butt!) and refuting her claim that Barack has quit smoking because he has not gained weight...
He's also getting gray hair (as happens to all presidents -- probably due to the stress). Do we want to blame that on Michelle, too?
the menu said "salad"... so...
that's a vegetable...
and so is potato salad...
I agree, I read this while laughing. I don't really like Michele Obama or her husband but I also recognize that we are all human, except those in office because if they screw up it will be all over the internet and tv within minutes.
I remember Bill Clinton jogging to the McDonald's, too, he's doing much better since the bypass, isn't he?
She can talk the talk about healthy eating all she wants to but everytime I see a parents in the grocery store buying Dr Peppers, Doritos and Pizza Rolls for their kids (not to mention Monsters, ewwww that's a train wreck) there really is only one place I blame for our country's obesity problem. Ourselves (or at least everybody else but me, I can't even eat beef).
Thanks for the entertainment.
Are We saying will all the problems we face in this country The First's lady's butt is what needs to be front page news? Man This Country Really Is In Trouble!!!
Lady, stop by the hub I just finished detailing what you are fighting against. No matter how the left attempts to inprove this country or the people in it, you have made it clear that you want no part of the improvement do you? You have come to count on all the extra income fat kids and adults provide you with haven't you?
Please America allow the right to kill your kids for you, it will make Lady so very, very, happy.
I don't consider more government and less freedom a "improvement " and that's the problem I have with the left!
You have made it clear no matter what the left attempts they are wrong simply you have decided you are always right. The subject matter doesn't matter in the least to you. Improving the health of American children is of little importance to you if it's the hated left making the improvements. That the Obama's are trying to improve the lives of millions of American children is of no concern to you is it? The problem is that it is the Obama's making the attempt. Stem cell research is another example of the ignorance on the right. Tis could and will save countless lives once the right gives up the right to decide who dies, when they die, and how much money can be stripped from them before they are dead. I usually talk with people in a specific field if I have question about that field of study. I dont understand a healthcare worker fighting healthcare reform that will improve the health of this country. You really need to ask yourself why you are willing to kill thousands of innocent children simply to protect your current level of take home pay.
No! I'm NOT ALWAYS right,, but the left is ALWAYS wrong when they try to impose THEIR will upon FREE people! I am FREE! FREE to make my OWN decisions regarding MY life and you bleeding heart liberals should mind your own business and stop trying to tell me how to live!
You can't compare what I said to abortion, because the unborn has rights too and that's what those on the left want us all to forget that abortion only involves one person... or that one person has more rights than another... gee sounds a lot like the civil rights movement... hmmmm
Let's see....Michelle Obama, first Lady of the USA, is suggesting we eat healthier.
You want to force me to bring a pregnancy to term whether I want to or not...... Using my body to suit your will/religion/ideology.
Hmmmmm, degrees of silliness, OR WHAT?
Who really want to curb who's freedom?
You continue to refuse to recognize the rights of the other person in your scenario.
What right are you refering to? The right to kill and injure as many people as you can on a daily basis? What about the rights of the children to expect their country to be concerned with their health and education about their health? The only thing right about the right is how right they feel their right to kill and injure any they choose in the name of profits and morality.
And once those fetuses are born you feel you have the right to kill them any way and any time you choose to. Any time you claim a right someone is bound to die as a result of it. You feel you and you alone have the right to condemn any to an early death, dont you?
But it's OK for you to mind other peoples business and tell them how to live!
Where and when have I advocated that? It's liberals like yourself that want to dictate what's best for EVERYONE instead of letting individuals decide for themselves!
Just about every post you make dear!
Be it abortion or gun control, voting for democrats, eating, fighting, everything, you have no doubt about what everybody should and shouldn't do and you don't even hesitate to tell us all what we should be thinking or doing!
No... I share my views openly without apology because that's what I believe... you're still free to continue to believe in the evils of liberalism...I'm not forcing you or anyone to do anything say anything or believe anything.
Thank goodness you cannot force anyone to do anything. Nor can you convince them with facts either because you seldom use them.
"Lady, stop by the hub I just finished detailing what you are fighting against. No matter how the left attempts to inprove this country or the people in it, you have made it clear that you want no part of the improvement do you?"
Please stop trying to improve things, you're making it worse.
Just say no....
I am sure I am making it worse by presenting the facts about these childish rantings of the left. Nothing makes life harder for you than having the facts be presented to the ignorant you count on to push your warped sense of right and wrong. Nice try Jim but I noticed you also have no interest or lack the ability to deal with facts. Hubs open, prove me wrong.
In truth, the government has always been involved in school lunch programs and exercise programs.
Kids' tastes have "devolved" over the decades and schools have catered to a fast food nation of fat-and-sugar-craving children. Why were soda machines even put in schools? Why are the only choices chicken nuggets or pizza?
If you object to nutritional programs for schoolchildren, you still have the same choice you always had: pack them a lunch at home. But not all parents are able (for reasons that are nobody's business but their own) to do that.
We send our children to school to LEARN. Good eating habits are LEARNED. Physical fitness is LEARNED.
How is learning these positive habits at school in any way inappropriate?
Pack them lunch??? In some schools that's not allowed or at least they tell you what you can't pack for your kids like peanut butter!
Peanut allergies are serious....just ask any Soccer Mom.
So? Who is going to give their kid a lunch that could kill them? I would think any child with such an alergy knows they have it yet schools still feel like they must dictate what's in your kids lunch bag!
Even if some schools do dictate what children can bring in their lunches, I would assume that these guidelines were developed with the help of a trained nutritionist. Most American parents these days think a balanced meal means eating the same amount of dessert as you had double whoppers. We send people to school to learn ways to improve our world and the morons fight for the right to agrue and ignore the experts. Fine if parents want absolute control over their childrens meals in school, let them spend 4 years studing how to make intelligent choices. Stop looking for ways to do harm in this country. It's not hard to think a matter thru before opening your mouth, honest, you really should give it a try.
Right!!! That's precisely the evil that I'm referring to...the idea that only the government knows what's best for us and only government "experts" should make decisions on what we eat... it's as if you believe man kind can't survive without government oversight!
Do you know, the moves we learned in gym class are "Core Movements" as found in Pilates?
I was blown away by that.
And what about the President's Commission on Health? Reagan, wasn't it? "Be healthy for your president"??
Oh my my my...how ideas change with a simple D or R in front of it!!
Really? In what school are children prohibited from bringing lunch from home?
no one has addressed the issue that the menu that was provided by the OP included 2 separate Vegetable meals.
Am I the only one who thinks that "salad" is a vegetable?
Wow! The President's Council on Physical Fitness actually started under Eisenhower and has been building under every new president for 50+ years.
But what Michelle Obama is proposing is socialist and intrusive and "evil." Yup. Just as "evil" as Eisenhower, Ford, Reagan, Bush Senior and W.
Gee I wonder how those programs were different than what Michelle is doing? It's one thing to PROMOTE something and another to DICTATE. Michelle dictates to the masses but those dictates don't seem to apply to her!
Typical of the left you try to shift the argument and make the claim that I am against healthy eating and in favor of obesity or even that I'm opposed to Michelle promoting good health and yet from the get go my point has been the hypocrisy of her actions relative to her words
Of course salad is a vegetable! But acknowledging such doesn't support that argument that Michelle Obama is a hypocrite because of her Super Bowl party menu. So your point is being ignored, Evan.
BTW, Ronald Reagan thought ketchup was a vegetable.
So did the USDA. And in 2004, under W, a judge decided batter-fried french fries were a vegetable. Clinton said salsa is a veggie, which it could be, in some cases. In others, however, it's little more than souped-up ketchup.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea … -vegetable
In fairness to the Reagan administration, part of trying to make ketchup a veggie had to do with kids' refusing to eat veggies at school. Just sayin'.
... i wasn't... supporting the... argument... that she was a.... hypocrite...
Are you so blinded by partisan rage that you failed to see that I was defending Obama?
Wow. The mind is a powerful tool.
Because you seem to argue against your own arguments it is sometimes difficult to tell what your main argument is.
So to make sure I am understanding correctly: You are NOT against physical fitness programs in schools. You are NOT against programs that attempt to reduce the obesity rate in the US and the health problems associated with obesity.
Your objection is that you feel Michelle Obama is not PROMOTING these things but is DICTATING these things? If such is your objection, what authority do you think the First Lady of the United States has to dictate policy?
Your objection is that Michelle Obama is not practicing healthy eating (not sure about her exercise habits -- do you have problems with them as well?) and is thus setting a poor example.
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OMG! The health care bill actually forces doctors to write prescriptions for healthy eating and exercise!!! What's next HHS agents dispatched to your hone to make sure you're taking your " medicine"? This is the world of the left and you don't even see the evil of this?
What happens now Lady, do doctors freely dispense prescriptions for a bad diet and couch potato lifestyle? I was under the impression that a doctor was supposed to be trying to improve the health of his customers. Are the majority of them not already telling their customers to eat better and exercise? What kind of a doctor would this new common sense law affect? I suppose the problem could come into play with the ever popular witch doctors who preform prayer healings.
Forcing them to tell the truth could be bad for the bottom line and I am sure it would cost us some witch doctor jobs. You see, I understand your objections before you make them. You are getting to be quite predictable.
You can't write a prescription for healthy eating and exercise!
If you could get fitness in a pill, I'm sure many Americans would love it!
The truth is, doctors have been emphasizing preventive health care for some time now. If you smoke, they tell you to quit and offer smoking cessation classes. If you have high blood pressure they suggest lifestyle changes to bring your bp down.
If you have diabetes they emphasize nutrition management as the first line of defense.
None of this is new or the result of the healthcare bill.
Your link is to a speech by Michelle Obama. If you read it, you will see that she did not come up with these ideas in a vacuum. They are based on what she hears Americans asking for.
The great thing about America is if you want to eat Cheetos and Coke for breakfast, lunch and dinner, you have that right.
But schools do get federal funding and the government does have (and always has had) the prerogative to dictate parameters.
If you have a problem with that, send your kid to private school.
The truth is, if you read her speech, doctors are REQUIRED to write prescriptions for diet and exercise per Obamacare!! I find it amazing that you refuse to acknowlege what is clearly stated in black and white right from the horses mouth right from the White House's own web site!!
It's called "Preventive Care", rather than "have a heart attack and then we treat you" care......
One benefits patients, the other, well you know.
And, does the web-site say they will be sending an armed guard over to your house to make sure you do these things?
Nooooo, it is a suggestion.
It's about time some entity other than the drug manufacturers had a say in healthcare. A industry that makes it's billions from selling pills has been the deciding factor in what healthcare consists of. Improving one's health reduces the need for medicine and this is unacceptable to the drug companies and you.
Doctors are required to prescribe healthy activities to their patients, there I admit it, I said it, and I agree with it. It helps the patient and that is what the doctors job is. Where is the problem here? It's not like the obese slobs in this country are going to take the advice is it. Why do you feel it is in the patients best interest to never hear that they need to eat better and get of their butts? Why is getting sound medical advice from a doctor only acceptable to you when it's a pill being precribed?
Are you all the same people? Do you not read anything I write? Can't any of you stick to the subject without wandering off on some tangent and distracting readers from the truth? I am NOT going to keep repeating myself... sheep just follow the ones in front of them and the dogs keep them in line... they don't know where they're going nor do they care as long as there is grass to eat... unfortunately they are just being fattened up while they are led to slaughter!
What is the truth that we are distracting people from? That they had a once a year celebration and this proves they are lying about their desire to improve the health of children? Is that the piss ant truth you are still trying to press forward. I sincerely hopw that part of the 1st ladies plan is to send armed federal agents to every American home each and every thanksgiving to make sure no child eats more than one drum leg. The pumkin pie task force will really have it's hands full I'm sure. Please at least try to pretend you have a little bit of common sense.
... and it is not new! Preventive care is being practiced now and has been for years. It is not some unique requirement of "Obamacare."
Both of you continue to ignore the implications here... its not a suggestion its a REQUIREMENT...its the LAW... I'm not debating the benefits of preventive care, diet or exercise... im pointing out how your choices are being legislated away by hypocrites!
you feel people have the right to choose to ignore their doctor and still be qualified for free medical care? It's about time you accepted that people have a little bit of responsibility not to be dumb asses. An extended warranty on an autoimoble would be voided if you poured frying grease down the intake instead of the recommended fuel. I assume you can grasp where I am going with this. You demand the right to pour sludge down your carberator and demand a mechanic fix you when the inevitable happens. You also seek the right to feed all new models the same killer menu, dont you? Is that distracting enough for you?
The ignorance is astounding! But st least the truth comes out you want the government to provide for the public needs and you want the rich to pay for it and you want government to decide for you what to eat and impose it with force... yes that's the society you liberals want to build... evil pure evil... but that's Obamas vision and the rest of the dems... well I don't want any part of your Utopia... I will fight it to my dying breath!!
Yes, and diet and excercise is much better than---"take this pill", which benefits, well, you know!
Let's for a minute use smoking cigarettes as an example.
For several years now doctors have been telling their patients to quit smoking.
Are they required to tell their patients this?
My doctors are.
After every doctor visit I get a patient satisfaction survey.
It doesn't matter what kind of doctor I saw. The survey ALWAYS includes these questions:
Do you smoke?
Yes___No___Used to but Quit___
If you do smoke, did your doctor suggest to you during your visit that you quit?
Obviously SOMEBODY is taking the issue of smoking seriously enough to require their physicians to talk to patients about it.
I don't know what kind of consequences a doctor would incur if he/she forgot to ask about smoking. But they never do. They always ask (usually the nurse who takes your vitals).
Is this tyranny? Is it evil?
Only to the tobacco companies....
Let me approach this another way. A way that will resonate better with you, LaLo.
The insurance companies who underwrite health care coverage charge a higher premium for people who engage in unhealthy habits. This includes having an unhealthy BMI. They even deny coverage to people based on their weight-to-height ratio.
Now, if I lose weight I reduce my actuarial risk of developing obesity-related diseases. As a lower risk patient, I get to pay a lower premium for my healthcare.
So this "Obamacare law" that you cite is actually a financial plus for me. It is also a financial plus for the entire healthcare system.
Even if my insurance company doesn't reward me with lower premiums, they reward themselves. I continue to pay my premiums in but lower my consumption of healthcare and thus the claims the insurance company pays. So the insurance companies are making more money on me if I am healthy.
How could this be bad for ANYONE???
It litterally us like talking to a wall! Ugh!
... actually, we are NOT being fattened up. We are being trimmed down with healthier food and more exercise!
Absolutely smoking has profound effects on health. We now know how deadly smoking is (for decades the effects were not widely known, although I'm sure Phillip Morris et al knew of them all along).
We now know the profound effects on health of a sedentary lifestyle coupled with fast food, prepackaged food, too much sugar, etc.
Your weight, blood pressure and (often) lab results of blood tests are all part of your health history, too.
It's good doctoring to warn patients of the health consequences of ALL unhealthy habits.
BTW, many doctors are used to providing care and prescribing based on "protocols" set by entities other than themselves.
Should a clean and sober alcoholic serve beer at a SuperBowl party because that's also customary?
Or would that be a bad idea?
Michelle should be walking the walk if she's going to talk the talk. No matter what.
Why not? But he shouldn't drink it. A good host tries to please his guests.
It would be a bad idea only if the alcoholic thought he might succumb to the temptation to drink some beer himself.
A clean/sober alcoholic host puts the comfort of his/her guests first, as do "normie" hosts. Most do not allow alcohol in their homes, but some do.
But neither Michelle nor Barack Obama is obese.
They chose their Super Bowl menu to make their guests comfortable. Just like SB partygivers everywhere.
In fairness to the Reagan administration? You mean Reagan's Congress that cut $1 billion from the school lunch funding program? Those cuts forced the USDA to "creatively" revise its guidelines.
The real point of the article is that Michelle Obama's school nutrition program is hardly the first time the federal government has mandated what schools feed their students.
My reply was in reference to the tomato issue, specifically. You're preaching to the choir, MM. I know all about school lunches, and I support children's having a choice of a fresh green salad. I started a forum applauding the First Lady's proposal, if you remember.
Part of what the Reagan Ad. was addressing was "plate waste." School lunchrooms are notorious for wasting food. I've seen it firsthand, and it's really a shame. They can't give the leftovers to homeless shelters, or even to animal shelters. They throw away perfectly good food every day - food that hasn't been served, which doesn't even include plate waste.
Oh Lordy, Habee!
I know you are (or were?) on the school frontlines.
I have no doubt about the "plate waste" issue, but now that it's been raised here, I just know "they" are going to come down and start screaming about government waste (as if we haven't already had enough on government "waist" and government "butts" in the last few days .
Once again, another example of a thread wasting forum space.
Hi Paul Wingert.
I think everyone's jumped to another forum.
Or maybe they went for a ketchup, salsa and battered French fries break....
Lady, I think you must be a plant or a "shaddow hubber" - an employee of Hubpages paid to post in order to whip up the crowd on the political forums...lolll
Good thing I'm thick skinned like my president!
Otherwise I might take offense at being called a wall .
No, Evan. I got that you were defending the Obama's menu. When I wrote "so your argument is being ignored" I meant it was being ignored by the people who are calling Michelle Obama a hypocrite.
Sorry if that is not clear.
Gee Stump Parrish,
You seem really upset tonight!
But I don't think she's listening -- even if she is, if you get my drift.
I've given up on getting an intelligent response from her MM. She refuses to support her claims and doesnt even read her own links. When offered her the chance to prove any one of 50 arguements I offered on the hub I wrote to dispute her rediculous post here, neither her or her trained parrot Jim accepted the chance to prove me wrong. Every time she feels cornered and that she might have prove even one of her claims, she tucks her tail and hides behind a subject change or meaningless distraction. It seems to work, It always distracts her from the responsibility of having a friggin clue about what falls out of her mouth. Problem is as we have discovered recently, she doesn't believe in her opinions enough to publish them as a blog on her goody two shoes Page, Lady only offers her opinion when it cant be traced back to her.
To answer your obsevation, I am in great mood, I just decided trhere is no reason to show any type of respect to an ignoramous that doesn't deserve it. Just in case you haven't figured out who I am talking about Lady, it's you.
By the way, it's "that's" a fact, not "thats" a fact.
I wouldn't get all grammar police on your a$$ if you hadn't brought it up first.
Stupid is as stupid does -- Forrest Gump
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