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Are You a Good Person?

  1. spiderpam profile image47
    spiderpamposted 8 years ago

    To find out, Take the test?

    Have you ever Lied?

    What do call someone who tell a lie?

    Have you ever Stolen anything?

    What do call someone who steals?

    Have you ever looked at a person with Lust(sexual desire)?

    Have you ever Hated anyone?

    Well According to you own admission, You're at least one a Lying, Stealing, Murderous, Adulterer. You are not a good person neither am I.
    Why?

    Well, according to God's Law we have all fallen short of his Glory and to say you otherwise is calling God a Liar. Check out these verses:

    Revelation 21:8  But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

    Matthew 5:28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

    1 John 3:15  Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    But this does not have to be our fate? Do you know why?

    Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast.
    This means God came to earth as Jesus to die for all of us for we can have everlasting life, It's a free gift, no "good" deed will ever be enough to repay God. You can't earn your salvation.

    If there was a one in a million chance that I'm right isn't worth looking into? Why gamble with your eternal soul? What does really hurt to consider it?

    You must two things Repent (ie turn away from your sins) and Trust in the Jesus Christ alone for your salvation. Remember the faith you have in yourself that you were a good person? Transfer that to Jesus Christ.

    1 Thessalonians 4 "Finally, then, brothers, we ask and urge you in the Lord Jesus, that as you received from us how you ought to walk and to please God, just as you are doing, that you do so more and more. 2For you know what instructions we gave you through the Lord Jesus. 3For this is the will of God, your sanctification that you abstain from sexual immorality; 4that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, 5not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; 6that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you. 7For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. 8Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you."
    If has got you thinking, Please don't let another day go by, without a relationship with Christ, because tomorrow is not promised to you. Be Blessed.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/thewayofthe … 3&ob=1

    1. Mrvoodoo profile image59
      Mrvoodooposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      And that's my better qualities.

      1. Misha profile image73
        Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Yep, mine too lol

    2. Davinagirl3 profile image62
      Davinagirl3posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I look at my husband with lust. wink

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        ellie1142545posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I look at my husband the same way...That's pardonable.....

        1. Davinagirl3 profile image62
          Davinagirl3posted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I am not asking to be pardoned for it.  I am curious which part of this quiz makes us "murderous"?

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            ellie1142545posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            I'm thinking the Ten Commandments here....

            Munder is in the Ten Commandments....So is stealing, lying, adultry, lusting,coveting ones neighbor....If we're guilty of one sin in this list, then we are guilty of all.....

            And we are guilty, there is no getting around it....Even now, though we are covered under the blood of Jesus, we are still sinners....Good Person now?  Yes, because we are saved.....And no, because of our actions....Confusing?  Yes it is, but if we just remember, that Jesus died for us, then through Him, we are made good....

            1. Jewels profile image82
              Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Jesus would be turning in his grave at this stuff.  Guilt - that is such crap.  No-one needs guilt in their life.  All this good bad stuff is so off center.  Very demonic really.

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                ellie1142545posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                1) Jesus' grave is empty, and has been since He arose.....

                2) Your beliefs are differant then mine, so lets just agree to disagree, and leave it at that....

            2. Zelkiiro profile image86
              Zelkiiroposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              Have you been sniffing glue? Because that is bafflingly stupid. If I stole a pair of shoes, I most certainly didn't kill a dude and I most certainly didn't shag his wife (or husband, whatever floats this guy's boat). You can't convict someone of crimes they provably didn't commit, because that's corrupt as hell and evil as hell.

              Oh, and I doubt anyone's guilty of "munder."

    3. Paraglider profile image89
      Paragliderposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      This is infantile claptrap.

    4. Cam Anju profile image66
      Cam Anjuposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Yes mom, my room is ALL clean... I didn't shove nothing under the bed. smile

      Ummm, dishonest.

      Bins of candy at the store, at a 3 year old's eye level, big pockets... what do you think I did?! big_smile

      A Thief?

      Ewwww Nope! LOL tongue

      Hmmm, well, no... I can't bear to hate anyone.

      (Hides from other hubbers!)>W< I don't think this test tells you if your a good person or not, I don't think any test could tell you that. A good person is judged on so many aspects that a test just can't judge. Besides, we are all good people, just sometimes choose bad actions... this doesn't make us bad.

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      jacknite3000posted 3 years ago in reply to this

      God law does not mean to lie, it means to bear false witness against  your neighbor.  Doesnt imply "lieing" implicily. example bearing false witness for or to help your neighbor. And yes that is a lie, but not fitting the defined role of what the law clearly states. And the commandments make no justification for condeming anyone who sins, even in Matthew Jesus makes a direct quote of what will happen to sins against man.

      The Unpardonable Sin
      31"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32"Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come."

      claiming that just because a person is a sinner  is jsutification for you to condemn them is a gross violation of the law. As christians were suppose to forgive them. pray for them, do good to them,an dlove them as you love yourself regardless. Not Condmening them, Not taking away or attacking their dignity, Not giving or allowing them the same rights that you yourself enjoy regardless of religous or political beliefs. necause if you do any of those thigns to another sinner, you are a hipocrit.

      I read an article by this author about  the homsoecual lies. Everything the author claims is biased. It has been proven, human sexual orientation is set in by age 6. Tell me what  6 year old can seriously claim it was a choice? Perhaps this qupte might make it understandable.

      “For there are eunuchs who are born thus from their mothers womb,  and there are eunuchs who are made eunuchs by men, and there are eunuchs who are eunuchs for the kingdom of heavens sake.  Let those who can accept it,  accept it.”   Matthew 19:12.

      What does a eunuch have to do with homosexuality?  The question
      should be:  What is a eunuch?  According to Webster’s dictionary a
      eunuch is a “castrated man, esp. one employed in a harem.”  Then the
      question that follows:  What is castrate?  “Remove the testicles,
      deprive of the power of generation.”  In other words, a eunuch is a
      male that had his testicles surgically removed which makes it
      biologically impossible for him to impregnate a female.

      The definition of a eunuch does not make any sense in the first
      part of  Matthew 19:12.  The verse said “For there are eunuchs born 
      thus from their mother's womb.“  How can a man who's testicles were
      surgically removed be “born thus from his  mothers womb?”  “Born thus”
      does not include anything that involves surgical alteration. “Born
      thus” exclusively includes the way God made him.  The way he developed
      in the womb, physically and mentally. So who is the eunuch that is
      “born thus?”

            To find the eunuch that is “born thus” one needs to read the
      chapter from the beginning.  This section of the chapter talks about
      marriage that is an intimate physical relationship traditionally
      between a male and female.  The  last words used in many Christian
      marriage ceremonies is found there, “what God has joined together let
      no man separate.”  It also talks about adultery and divorce.  One is
      the betrayal and the other the ending of an intimate physical
      relationship.

            Following this discussion the question is asked,  “His disciples
      said to Him, “If such is the case of the man with his wife, it is
      better not to marry?”  But he said to them, “all cannot accept this
      saying, but only those  to whom  it has been given.”  Matthew 19:10
      and 11.  Scholars tend to think that  Matthew 19:12 speaks of people
      apart from  the normal heterosexual relationships because of the
      question the disciples asked.  The surgically altered eunuch is
      outside the normal heterosexual relationship and is more aptly
      explained by :  “eunuchs who are made eunuchs  by men.”  Then there
      are “eunuchs who are eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake.”  Monks
      and priests who have either taken a vow of celibacy and /or castrated
      are outside normal heterosexual relationships.  But who is the eunuch
      that is outside normal heterosexual relationships and is “born thus
      from his mother's  womb?”

            Homosexuality, say Christians, is a lifestyle choice. Homosexuals
      say that it is not a lifestyle choice, it is the way God made them.
      The way they were born.  Since Matthew 19 begins with a discussion of
      heterosexual intimate physical relationships and then tells of eunuchs
      apart from  normal heterosexual relationships there is only one
      explanation of to the eunuch “born thus” refers.

            As shown, the  Bible contradicts itself on the subject of
      homosexuality. Leviticus and Romans condemn while Matthew just accepts
      it as a reality.  What are Christians to believe about homosexuality?

            In general, Christians believe the Bible is the literal word of
      God.  God inspired Moses to write Leviticus 20:13 and God inspired 
      Paul to write Romans 1:27.  Who are Moses and Paul?  Both men are
      revered in Christianity as truly great men, but despite all they did
      and wrote they are only two human, imperfect, mortal men.

           In general, Christians attribute the words in Matthew 19:12 to
      be the actual spoken words of Jesus himself.  Who is Jesus?  Jesus is,
      in the Trinitarian view, the son of God, the Messiah, the Christ,
      perfect, sinless, immortal, divine.  “The word became flesh.” The
      essence of God in the flesh.  Three manifestations of God.  Father,
      son, and holy spirit.  Jesus is the human embodiment in the trinity
      of God.  Then, in the Trinitarian view, the words of Matthew 19:12 are
      words spoken by God himself.

            My question to the Trinitarian:  What words are you going to
      believe?  Whose words are you going to follow?  The words of imperfect
      mortal men or the words spoken by God?

            What about the Christians who do not hold the Trinitarian view?
      Whatever word or words used to describe who Jesus is, in the many
      facets of Christianity, the authority of  Jesus is greater than any
      other figure in the Bible.  He is the Messiah, the Christ, the son of
      God, or the son of man.  The question remains the same.   Whose words
      are you going to follow?  “He who is able to accept it, let him accept
      it.”  Jesus understood the reality of homosexuality.  Why not
      Christians?

  2. andromida profile image75
    andromidaposted 8 years ago

    Extremely difficult test for me.

  3. RedElf profile image86
    RedElfposted 8 years ago

    According to some definitions, "to sin" means to miss the mark, or to fall short. As you also mentioned, anyone of us has fallen short and missed the mark. That, however, does not mean any of us is therefore a BAD person.
    Through God's grace we are forgiven. There is nothing anyone can do to "earn" God's grace. He extends his love, his blessings, his Grace AND his forgiveness freely to us because he loves us, not because of any merit or deserving of our own...and I thank God for that.
    So though I may have missed the mark, or fallen short from time to time, I know I am forgiven through God's grace, and so I am the good person I try to be.

    1. spiderpam profile image47
      spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      True, but we must understand that God's grace it not a ticket to sin, You can't say "I'll just steal this shirt, God will forgive me" Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows"

      1. AEvans profile image65
        AEvansposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        spiderpam: RedElf never said it was a ticket to sin, you must read it more closely they have said we all have fallen short of the Glory and they are forgiven through God's grace. Redelf never said it was a ticket to sin. I realize you are a babe in Christ but slow down little sister, you are to gather his flock not over extend the word. I do have one question sense you are led in the word, your name does not reflect it. It reflects something devious and mischievous so maybe this is why you are having such a hard time trying to convince others. Your heart is in the right place, but walk it and talk it and lead them back. smile

        1. spiderpam profile image47
          spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I was simply adding to the point. My first word was "True, but". I think she got my point. As for my name it was the first thing that popped into my head, I use it often. You can just call me Pam if that's makes you more comfortable. smile

          1. AEvans profile image65
            AEvansposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Pam is much nicer you should have been glorious Pam or Gracious One something to that effect as it is much calmer. smile

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              SandCastlesposted 3 years ago in reply to this

              There is nothing wrong with Spiders; God made them too.

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      ellie1142545posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Amen!!  We all have fallen short of the Glory of God, we are all sinners....And though we fall short, we're fogiven by His Grace....Before we were forgiven, we were considered bad....Now that we are forgiven, we are good....Forgiven by His Grace...

  4. lawretta profile image77
    lawrettaposted 8 years ago

    nice one!!!

  5. Misha profile image73
    Mishaposted 8 years ago

    How dare you yikes

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      ellie1142545posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Awww! Mish sounds upset, lol!!

  6. Lady_E profile image83
    Lady_Eposted 8 years ago

    OK. Let me take this test:

    Have you ever Lied?
    I have taken a call on a Hospital bed and lied to my Dad that I was home relaxing.

    Have you ever Stolen anything?
    Stole lots of sweets from my mum’s shop when I was young.

    Have you ever looked at a person with Lust (sexual desire)?
    Well, I opened a magazine and Denzel Washington stared back at me, so I kept on staring at him. Thought it would be rude of me to break the eye contact.

    Have you ever Hated anyone?
    I’ve had very good reason to but I’ve forgiven the person.

    I understand the message your trying to pass on Pam.  Thanks.
    May God give us the grace to be Good. smile

    1. spiderpam profile image47
      spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      smile Thanks

  7. AEvans profile image65
    AEvansposted 8 years ago

    Devil or Angel I can't make up my mind, I acn be good and I can be bad and today is a naughty day.

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    badcompany99posted 8 years ago

    I am deff Bad Company in both name and person, but what makes you a Good Person ?

  9. LondonGirl profile image90
    LondonGirlposted 8 years ago

    I don't look at women with lust, therefore I am a Good Person.

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      badcompany99posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Oh right, why didn't I realise that simple Good Person Formula, thank you !

      1. Enelle Lamb profile image83
        Enelle Lambposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Shame on you bad, didn't you read the rules first?

  10. Colebabie profile image60
    Colebabieposted 8 years ago

    Have you ever Lied?
    Oh sure.

    Have you ever stolen anything?
    When I was little I took a stone from one of those gem stores. It was just so pretty.

    Have you ever looked at a person with Lust (sexual desire)?
    Every day!

    Have you ever Hated anyone?
    Nope. I had a perverted teacher once who I truly disliked. I don't know if I've ever felt hate.

    To me this is not a test of whether or not you are a good person. But it just shows that we're human and we feel the emotions that we're supposed to feel. And if there is a God he wouldn't attribute these imperfections to being a bad person. It is what you do with those emotions that matter. I've never truly hurt someone or made this world an awful place by lying, stealing, looking, or hating. And I returned the stone by the way.

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    badcompany99posted 8 years ago

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.


    Oh well, I hear Hell is kinda warm in the Winter smile

    1. Joy At Home profile image96
      Joy At Homeposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Gonna miss you, BC. I don't plan on spending a lot of time down south...I get heat exhaustion very easily.

  12. Tom Cornett profile image59
    Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago

    Chasing spirits with a blow torch?  Get a job...feed a kid...live and let whatever!

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    \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years ago

    we are born imperfect, so we are going to make mistakes all the time......  in fact probably every day, that is just the truth of the matter...... as I see it

  14. Eaglekiwi profile image71
    Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago

    I heard a new artist today
    New to me anyway (cute voice)

    Shoot forgot his name already lol
    ??? Craig

    Fav lyrics

    God Is Great
    Beer is good
    People are Crazy  smile

    1. Colebabie profile image60
      Colebabieposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Billy Currington smile

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image71
        Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        hugsss an thanks colebabie im off to goggle the hunk (hope he is )..oops lust?? ok check the lyrics  lol

        1. Colebabie profile image60
          Colebabieposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Oh my gosh is he ever a hunk. He's gorgeous. I could lust after him allllll day. big_smile

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    Am I dead, yet?posted 8 years ago

    No. I am a distressed person. =/

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      CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Awwwww big hugs xx

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        Am I dead, yet?posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        -hugs right back-

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    CabinGirlposted 8 years ago

    I heard me today, life is good, spirits are great, people are crazy and religious freaks are the first to judge. Me coming from a Baptist family although we were poor and shared a Bible we read about not judging and he who cast the first stone but then I am just a silly uneducated cabingirl so maybe I am just having a silly giddy moment smile

  17. Mighty Mom profile image91
    Mighty Momposted 8 years ago

    Virtue is way overrated.

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      CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Nice outfit smile

  18. cindyvine profile image89
    cindyvineposted 8 years ago

    I raised three kids on my own and put up with an abusive husband for 10 years, so I figure, that makes me an exceptionally good person.

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      CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      You are the best Cindy and anyone that says otherwise I will pin to the mast and whip them. !!

    2. Davinagirl3 profile image62
      Davinagirl3posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I believe that is the definition of a great person.

  19. Balinese profile image61
    Balineseposted 8 years ago

    oh ya-  stole my dad money  to buy candy when i was  kid.  ))))
    i hated someone too-

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      CabinGirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Who doesn't hate somebody, jeeez God gave us these people to hate, as for yer dad like me missed the money smile

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    pgrundyposted 8 years ago

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/105/255131313_4785336571.jpg?v=1184662829

    It doesn't answer the question, but I think it's what we're supposed to do on these kinda hubs from now on...

    Ain't he cute? smile

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
      Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Adorable

  21. jenblacksheep profile image79
    jenblacksheepposted 8 years ago

    This is what PISSES ME OFF about religion! Who are you to tell me that I'm not a good person? Of course I've lied to people (sometimes lying is the kindest thing), I've probably stolen things although I don't actually remember any particular occasion, of course I've felt lust (who the hell hasn't) and ye, I've hated one or two people, they deserved it.

    But I'm NOT a bad person.  I don't do things out of malice or spite. I try very hard not to be rude or disrespectful to other people (even when they deserve it). I stand up for myself, my beliefs and my friends. I don't ever hurt other people or do things that I think might hurt someone.

    AND most importantly, I don't do or not do these things because some questionable higher being says I should or shouldnt do them. I (and only I) am accountable for my actions and I do what I think is right because I think it is right!

    The question is are YOU a good person since you only act in a good way because God tells you to and because you want to get to heaven!

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image71
      Eaglekiwiposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Well expressed ,but actually being good wont get you into heaven either smile

    2. spiderpam profile image47
      spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      "There's nothing more important than where you'll spend eternity". It's not worth the gamble. Just think about it. I care about you, and I'll pray for you. smile
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J95rAr0gOFU

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    pgrundyposted 8 years ago

    Nobody is a good person and nobody is a bad person. People are people.

    'Good' and 'bad' are the kinds of labels four year olds use.

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
      Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago in reply to this
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        pgrundyposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Depeche Mode! Moral authority if ever it existed!!! lol

        1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
          Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I think I'll start adding Depeche Mode song links to all the religious threads that spill over into the Hangout.

  23. LondonGirl profile image90
    LondonGirlposted 8 years ago

    "To err is human - to forgive is not company policy".

    Pam's right - my son (recently turned 4) catagories things as "good" or "naughty".

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      pgrundyposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      It takes a mom to get to the bottom of things. smile

  24. blondepoet profile image74
    blondepoetposted 8 years ago

    Omg I failed the test but heck I am a good person no matter what the results say. smile

  25. Uninvited Writer profile image81
    Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago

    This is my cat China when she was a baby...she's gone now...

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/50/118992776_2b1a591a84_o.jpg

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      pgrundyposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Awwww.....

  26. jenblacksheep profile image79
    jenblacksheepposted 8 years ago

    Well I'm 100% sure I'll be spending eternity in a brown box about 6ft under, but I appreciate the concern ... sorta. Heaven is not for me. Anyway, I have been assured by many concerned theists that I will get to heaven despite not believing in God (altho I have been told by one that I'm going to hell).

    So it looks like I'm in a better position than you as I get the best of both worlds!

    And please don't pray for me ... that is so incredibly patronising

    1. Uninvited Writer profile image81
      Uninvited Writerposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I intend to be cremated...no lying around in a box for me...

    2. spiderpam profile image47
      spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this
      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Spiderpam and other fundamentalists specialize in this sort of patronizing rot.

  27. Misha profile image73
    Mishaposted 8 years ago

    LOL I think this will be appreciated in religion forums, too smile

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    sandra rinckposted 8 years ago

    You have to be kidding.  According to the whole hypocritical mess called the bable.. I mean Bible.  We are all created in gods images so if we are all these things then so is god. 

    The greatest liar of all... Jesus. big_smile No, I am sorry, I take that back.  What I meant was christians are liars. big_smile

    Jesus is alright with me... christianity on the other hand... by that I mean left. big_smile

    1. jenblacksheep profile image79
      jenblacksheepposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I'm so glad there's someone else who thinks this ridiculous. No one seemed t get as mad as I did. I try so hard to be tolerant and understanding towards religion and argue things out logically, but this thread made me so angry!!

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        sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        You are not the only one. big_smile

  29. quicksand profile image82
    quicksandposted 8 years ago

    Q. Are you a good person?
    A. No!

    Q. Why?
    A. Because I lie a lot!

  30. pep1player profile image61
    pep1playerposted 8 years ago

    No one is a good person in god's eyes we all have sinned

    1. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      You may believe that, don't speak for me.

      1. spiderpam profile image47
        spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        What will it take for you to understand it doesn't matter what you believe. God is real. If you were in a court of law and the judge found you guilty of breaking his laws sentences you to die by lethal injection and you say "Judge, I don't believe in lethal injection." Would that change your fate? NO!
        I can't force you to do anything, all I can do is ask you to think about it. If there was a one of a million chance that I'm right. Why risk it?

        1. Misha profile image73
          Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Should it belong to religion forums? Woman, listen to Mark Knowles, he knows your scared texts and does not lie - you are not allowed to preach by your god, you'll burn in hell, sinner smile

        2. Colebabie profile image60
          Colebabieposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Because risking it allows me to be happy and be me. Yeah... I'll risk it.

          1. Davinagirl3 profile image62
            Davinagirl3posted 8 years ago in reply to this

            I'll take that chance with ya, Baby.

        3. earnestshub profile image88
          earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Because the risk is zero.How long will it take for you to realize you do not have a monopoly on knowledge. I have read your Bible as I have stated many times.

          1. spiderpam profile image47
            spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction." Read it again you missed the point.

            1. earnestshub profile image88
              earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              No it is you who is missing the point. Again you assume superior understanding.Fear is no basis for belief.Only a neurotic despot like the biblical god makes threats. God's do not make threats, they do not need to. Frightened people make threats, as those who wrote the bible did. Devine inspiration, and all that comes of it is childish threats..... does not threaten me or any other non religious.

              1. spiderpam profile image47
                spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                II Timothy 3:1-5,7 "But realize this, that in the last days difficult times will come.  For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, boastful, arrogant, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, malicious gossips, without self-control, brutal, haters of good, treacherous, reckless, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God; holding to a form of godliness, although they have denied its power; always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

                "For anyone who has watched television, read a newspaper, lost a retirement to corporate greed and corruption, or just walked outside their front door, it is obvious this prophecy has been fulfilled by our generation.  Our leaders are often corrupt; our cities are filled with crime, brutality, and neon signs proclaiming our sinful, godless nature.  The New Age Movement brings in increasing numbers of mystics who claim to be the enlightened ones.  They are some of the most educated and influential people in our societies, and yet the most lacking in real truth."

                1. earnestshub profile image88
                  earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  The list of mankind's crimes has not changed with religion, human nature has not changed, the human condition remains the same, and yet you still believe in an active participating omnipotent god of today. Where in hell is your god while all this goes on.If you were god, would you not end the suffering instead of making threats?

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                    Am I dead, yet?posted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    earnest, again, touche' my friend.

                  2. spiderpam profile image47
                    spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    The answer to the human condition is Salvation through Jesus Christ. You say "threaten" because you have conviction, You feel we might be right but it's too much for you to handle so you run and make up a higher being you are more comfortable with (no accountability, no final judgement, no hell.) It makes the way you live your life much more lax.  You've simply convinced yourself everything is everything. Instead of calling them threats take them as warnings. Read this it reveals the answer to your question on suffering, but are you willing to see the truth. http://hubpages.com/hub/Why-does-God-Allow-Suffering

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          sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Not what I would say!  I reach over the podium and spit in his face. You see cause it does matter what you believe and I just happen to not believe you or the bible unless of course people started calling god by his name Satan. 

          No, I take that back.  Satan isn't a liar, god called him one.  Actually, come to think of it, Satan isn't even a murderer... did he kill anyone?  Hold up! 

          What did Satan actually do?  I know, he tormented Job by gods approval.  Satan seems much nicer than god for sure!

  31. Davinagirl3 profile image62
    Davinagirl3posted 8 years ago

    I am still confused as to which of these "quiz" questions reveals a "murderous" nature.  I hope its not the one about lust.  I have lustful dreams about various celebrities.  I must be a terrible person.

    1. blondepoet profile image74
      blondepoetposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Oh God me too especially Hugh Jackman, I have even had a couple where a couple of Hubbers were involved. I do not know how they popped into my dreams but they did.

      1. tony0724 profile image60
        tony0724posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Here I am BP !

      2. Davinagirl3 profile image62
        Davinagirl3posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        My "lust object" of choice is Gerard Butler.  I love that irish accent.

        1. Make  Money profile image69
          Make Moneyposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Yeah lust is a hard one.  I try to turn the TV off when Chacira comes on or when I have accidentally searched for her videos on YouTube. smile

          Darn, did I just lie?  I'll have to say an act of contrition. smile

          I try to be a good person though.

          1. beautyrose profile image50
            beautyroseposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            All I can say is that there is good and bad in every person.  But the good traits and done must be given importance and the bad one might be corrected positively.

    2. Misha profile image73
      Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Did you kill them all already? yikes

      1. Davinagirl3 profile image62
        Davinagirl3posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        ...not even in my dreams... Not yet, anyway. Mwaaa ha ha ha. lol

  32. Tom Cornett profile image59
    Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago

    Am I Dead, Yet?....hey ...maybe you should change your name to "Am I done, Yet...you know...eternal fire thingy!  I'm bringing beer....who's bringing the chips and burgers?

    1. profile image0
      Am I dead, yet?posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Holla!!

      1. Tom Cornett profile image59
        Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Eternal fire party...friday night!

  33. Cris A profile image59
    Cris Aposted 8 years ago

    I try to be good but when I'm bad, I'm better. cool

    And that's me trying to sound cool. cool

    1. Colebabie profile image60
      Colebabieposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      success Cris. success.

      1. Cris A profile image59
        Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Really?! I should've believed my mother when she told me I'm the devil's child! cool

        1. Tom Cornett profile image59
          Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Hey man...cool ...we are brothers!

          1. Cris A profile image59
            Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            I knew it, mom was a playa in her day! cool

            1. Tom Cornett profile image59
              Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              LOL....maybe we are twins?  smile

              1. Cris A profile image59
                Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Then maybe you should send over some of your garden um stuff! cool

                1. Tom Cornett profile image59
                  Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  Cookies or cup cakes?  smile

                  1. Cris A profile image59
                    Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    Now you pass the test of brotherdom and twinship! And make them cup cakes, should go well with my "herbal tea" (wink) cool

    2. profile image0
      Am I dead, yet?posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      yikes

      I knew it!

      1. Cris A profile image59
        Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        But mum's the word. The fans shouldn't know! cool

        1. Tom Cornett profile image59
          Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Ohh yeah!  smile

          1. k@ri profile image81
            k@riposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Uh Oh,  I just found out!  cool  But mums the word...I wouldn't let on!

            1. Cris A profile image59
              Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              I doubt it my friend for you are known to let your crazy out at times! LOL cool

              1. k@ri profile image81
                k@riposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                OK, now I will sing it from the mountains, tell it on the plains...until every one knows Cris A's name!  cool

                1. Cris A profile image59
                  Cris Aposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  LOL you're definitely letting your crazy hang out! Must be the weather in D.C.! cool

                  @Tom

                  G'night my friend. And may we continue to haunt you in your dreams! cool

          2. k@ri profile image81
            k@riposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Tom, I love your new avatar!! smile

            1. Tom Cornett profile image59
              Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              It's me 30 years ago...now...the guitar sticks out about a foot further.  smile

              1. onthewriteside profile image59
                onthewritesideposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Damn Tom!  30 years ago???  You must be like...ancient now...  lol

                1. Tom Cornett profile image59
                  Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago in reply to this
                  1. Tom Cornett profile image59
                    Tom Cornettposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    Hey how did my answer get on top of your question?  Goodnite All!  smile

              2. k@ri profile image81
                k@riposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Still...It's a great picture!  You look soooo old for 5!  smile

  34. aka-dj profile image78
    aka-djposted 8 years ago

    No one is GOOD enough. Neither is anyone TOO bad. We ALL fall short. (Even those of you who don't believe). Without Christ there IS NO HOPE. That's not a threat, but a reality. He IS the end of all suffering and sin. Either let Him bear it for you, or you bear it for yourself. If you want a way out (of hell, judgement etc), He is your salvation. If not, don't be bothered by it, all will be revealed in due time.
    The Gospel message is "put out there" for all to see/hear. You are not obliged to take it up.

    1. earnestshub profile image88
      earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Nor am I obliged to believe your theory.Once again you threaten and insult all those who think it is a pile!

      1. aka-dj profile image78
        aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        You are correct. I said that already, "you are not obliged to accept it". As for "threats and insults", YOU were not my focus when I wrote my post. If you took it that way, that's your choice.
        BTW, for someone so assertive on "knowing the Bible", you should know that I am not the originator of the "threats and insults". It's in The Book. (which I guess you rejected.) I assume you read the bits in red too?

    2. onthewriteside profile image59
      onthewritesideposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Reality based on WHAT?  I'm not a believer in your Jeebus or your God, and I'm not suffering one bit.  I see a whole lot of suffering and sin going on in this world...usually of and by believers saying, "why me God?", or "I did it in the name of my God".  Don't want it...don't need it.

      1. aka-dj profile image78
        aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        That's fine. You are one who rejects the message. I'm OK with that.

  35. Misha profile image73
    Mishaposted 8 years ago

    Aka, may I remind it is Hubber's hangout, not Religion forum? I think I'll flag this thread, so Maddie move it where it really belongs. smile

    1. aka-dj profile image78
      aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I didn't start the thread. I merely participated. big_smile

  36. Xaquizzle profile image54
    Xaquizzleposted 8 years ago

    o.O For a guy that preaches love, God sure seems to hate a lot of people.

  37. needs_a_break profile image60
    needs_a_breakposted 8 years ago

    hmmmmm well this is interesting.....good .. bad... god ... satan... light ...dark... EVERYONE HAS SINED AND EVERY ONE WILL SIN!!! OMG that does not make us evil... but none of us are angels... well maybe mother teresa... but still it there a point of us arguio\ng over god and junk... the bible says, don't gossip... worst place for gossip... THE CHURCH.... don't judge... most judgmental place... THE CHURCH..... i feel as if lots of the time the church can be very hypocritacl.....but seriously do we have to argue over every nook and crany... things happen.. no one is perfect there we go... that dosn't make us ALL bad ppl...ppl who are serial killers are bad ppl but  you kow what that is just like trying put ppl in boxs and be like... which extreme are you? but there are a majority of ppl that are normal or in the middle... JUST PPL.. and everyone has lied and in some form or another stolen, or hated someone.. it is human

  38. profile image0
    sandra rinckposted 8 years ago

    I will admit I have killed more than a few dozen spiders in my day.  Felt sorry for each and every one of them too. I tried to shoe them away but they just wouldn't listen.

    I even squashed a spider so big that I knew I needed to stomp hard enough so I wouldn't feel the guts come rushing out under my shoe.

    I don't like spiders but I love them just fine when at a distance.  I don't like their webs either but I love them at a distance.

    Does this help? big_smile

    1. Jewels profile image82
      Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Best you not come over here, ours a huge, like really big.

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        You forgot to say and cuddly!

        1. Jewels profile image82
          Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Cuddly?  I wasn't going to put you in the category of Huntsman, but was unaware you can't keep your hands and legs to yourself. lol

    2. aka-dj profile image78
      aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I think you killed more than a spider. I seem to remember seeing you holding a (dead) fish. A nice one at that. lol lol

      1. profile image0
        sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Zoinks!  Your right.  I have killed some fish too, but I ate them. smile  Now that I think about it, I have also killed quite a few ants, some wasp, bees, silver fish, cockroaches and a few egos. 

        I am totally bad!

        1. JonTutor profile image51
          JonTutorposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          No, Sis you're not bad.... maybe you just stop some folks from having inflated egos wink

  39. profile image0
    ralwusposted 8 years ago

    Purity
    Is obscurity.
    Ogden Nash

  40. viryabo profile image86
    viryaboposted 8 years ago

    Do unto others.............
    I dont cheat, or commits lustful sins. I never hate. Im a people lover.
    Too bold to lie.
    Steal? Weeelllll, maybe. From my husband when he is trying to be stingy. I take delight in that certainly.

    1. Jewels profile image82
      Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Maybe you need to live a little smile

      1. viryabo profile image86
        viryaboposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Oh i'm living a Great Life! Wonderfully fantastic too, better believe it!
        Hardly need to be bad to have a little life, i believe.
        But then, only my opinion.

        1. Jewels profile image82
          Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          True, it's a matter of standpoint isn't it.  What's good for some doesn't work for others.  Hope life is tinged with a bit of spice every now and then.

  41. Paraglider profile image89
    Paragliderposted 8 years ago

    Aka-dj - I like the new image. The last one was a bit, well, spooky!

    1. aka-dj profile image78
      aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks. I wanted a change 'cause I didn't like it either. This one shows my (hopefully) artistic side. Did it myself. (for what it's worth).

      1. Paraglider profile image89
        Paragliderposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I took the photo in mine. I wish I could claim to have made the woodcarving, but have no skill in that direction.

        1. earnestshub profile image88
          earnestshubposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Hi Jewel and PG your up late (my time 11.20pm. Hope all is good

          1. Jewels profile image82
            Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            The pumpkin approaching as we speak, yawn yawn!!

          2. Paraglider profile image89
            Paragliderposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Not late in Qatar - 4:30 p.m. Just finished work and going for a sinful beer wink

            1. Jewels profile image82
              Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Enjoy, you terrible person smile

            2. aka-dj profile image78
              aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Have one for me. BTW one is not sinful, Neither is two if you can handle it. big_smile

  42. Jewels profile image82
    Jewelsposted 8 years ago

    I'm a good person.  In fact I'm an amazing person and God loves me.  Ever heard the saying "Good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere."  Is good isn't it?

  43. apeksha profile image60
    apekshaposted 8 years ago

    I hated one person for prior reason. Other things I have never done.
    I am very kind, soft spoken, humble.So u can say I am good gal.

  44. spiderpam profile image47
    spiderpamposted 8 years ago

    Well, Thank you to all who took the test I hope it got you to at least think. Be Blessed. Here's the hub
    <snipped - do not post links in the forums>

    1. JonTutor profile image51
      JonTutorposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Do you start topics.... so that you can put links to your articles?

      1. profile image0
        sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        she does it all the time, I am quite surprised that admin hasn't snipped them yet.

        1. JonTutor profile image51
          JonTutorposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Does somebody snip them???... She did this twice earlier.... never saw anybody snip those links.

          1. spiderpam profile image47
            spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            If you are so concerned read the hub it's nothing like the thread.

            1. JonTutor profile image51
              JonTutorposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Are you soliciting visitors lol

        2. Misha profile image73
          Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Done already. He-he. And moved to religion, where it belongs. lol

          I guess Maddie was out of the town, and now she's back smile

          1. Maddie Ruud profile image78
            Maddie Ruudposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            I was on vacation last week, and this weekend it was my birthday, so I was busy partying.

            (Can't people behave while I'm gone?  Every time I spend a few days away, some huge forum brouhaha goes down...)

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              dennisemattposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              hope you had a happy birthday!!!

              1. Maddie Ruud profile image78
                Maddie Ruudposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Thanks much.  It was lovely.

                1. profile image0
                  dennisemattposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  Good.    smile   your welcome!!   
                  did you know, under my Parent's religion, its a sin to celebrate birthdays? people need to just read the Bible,(if they believe it), and make up their own minds and stop worrying so much about organized religion. GOD or some monkeys...gave us minds, and free will. Use it.

            2. Misha profile image73
              Mishaposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Happy belated birthday! smile

              Have you been a good girl? wink

              1. Maddie Ruud profile image78
                Maddie Ruudposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                Depends what you consider "good." wink  And thanks!

      2. spiderpam profile image47
        spiderpamposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        This thread was more like reasearch for the hub.

  45. profile image0
    dennisemattposted 8 years ago

    "The Lord is slow to anger, abounding in love and forgiving sin and rebellion." Numbers 14:18

    I had just opened this thread, when my youngest daughter came downstairs, with her assigned scripture for a church summer camp thing shes doing this year.

    funny, huh? Of course, we have "all missed the mark." The point is, God forgives us. YEAH you cant go around doing bad stuff on purpose, and say...Ive been forgiven...but still, just do what you know your supposed to do, and dont kill yourself with guilt.

  46. HealthCare Basics profile image61
    HealthCare Basicsposted 8 years ago

    Actually, I prefer being evil most of the time. If I am always considered a good person, then my friends have certain expectations to my actions and responses, but if I am considered evil, they tend to play softly around me in case the wrath should fall........  smile

    No, really a nice guy here, I just have my moments to create hell........

    1. Davinagirl3 profile image62
      Davinagirl3posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I am afraid that puts you right into the majority of normal people.  I don't think "good" people like to judge others in a HP forum.

    2. Jewels profile image82
      Jewelsposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      You sound mischievous and exciting. Is that the definition of evil?  Naaa!

  47. Research Analyst profile image77
    Research Analystposted 8 years ago

    A definition of a good person is only relative because we all are imperfect and to say that we have never done something is to admit to our own unwillingness to accept the truth.

    1. profile image0
      ellie1142545posted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I agree with you....Jesus said, "He who claims to be without sin, is the biggest sinner of all....And to say we have never done something (even though we did) falls into this catagory....Peace!!

  48. profile image0
    L. Andrew Marrposted 8 years ago

    I do not believe I am a good person. To be honest I'm a grammer school student and life is competative. We must fight in order to get where we want to in life and fighting always has literal, mental and metaphorical casulties.

  49. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    Which judge would you accept? Who decides what "good" means?

  50. kmackey32 profile image80
    kmackey32posted 8 years ago

    I think I am. smile

 
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