Conservative Christian murders 80+ in Norway
http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/oslo- … or-terror/
More proof this religion is dangerous to others as well as the people who follow it.
The article notes he claimed to quote a philosopher on a single tweet; then, a single posting on Facebook, as a Christian Conservative --yet is a Free Mason, e-sport junkie? Those titles are terribly at odds. Also note an Islamic fundie group initially claimed responsibility and that French Ultraconservative group took notice. So what. Lastly, both those Social Network accounts are reported as being activated on July 17th, "Making their veracity" questionable. It is interesting to note the attack was on the Red-Green Coalition Labour Party camp. An odd thing as the party is pro socialist and controls much of the politics of Norway.
A lot of that article is speculation. Get the facts before you make that redundant claim. There is no evidence that he was a Christian, less a single FB line. You are pushing propaganda, as usual, and no one is falling for it anymore.
No wonder why your nonsensical determinism, personal war on Christianity causes so many conflicts.
James.Yeah. No one kills for religion. Never happened. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Religion is guilty here. But - you need to defend it because you are a believer and - well - lets face it and be honest. Your religious beliefs are more important than actual people.@ BC (born catholic) -
Dear me. Defend the faith at all costs no matter how many insane killers it produces? Wow. So what if some rag is prepared to lie about it? This is why your religion disgusts me so. It produces people like you.
I don't think religion has got anything to do with this mans actions. Just because he say's he is a Christian does not necessarily mean that he follows and practices Christianity as stated in the Bible (funny coming from a Muslim
).
Muslims have been in the firing line since the end of the cold war especially here in the Western Media, so I know 98% of Muslims, Jews, Hindus or Christians will not actually go and harm others, but unfortunately when the remaining 2% in the fringe who claim to belong in one of these religious groups does something as awful as that in Norway, society points fingers at everyone who follows a particular religion - that is wrong in my view.So does Norway, and have just said so through a government spokesperson on ABC radio.
Nice cheap shot at me, sure, you get along, alright.
I'm looking at this 6 hours later. Read any news you want to report?
Read some history books. Please stop lying at me to defend your dangerous and mind damaging religion.
You are not my friend either. My friends do not constantly berate me for not believing nonsense and speak garbage at me to defend their beliefs.
- Well it's an interesting angle to use sex as one of the problems associated with religion. The repression of sexual desire cause people to become psychotic? Do you regard chastity as repression?
I'm not sure if there is such a thing as 'sexually satisfied'. I like what John Updike said : " sex and money are alike...only too much is enough".
How is it a sacrifice when neither Jesus nor his dad gave up anything they couldn't get back?. I would give up my own son to save the world if I could simply bring him right back again.
Sacrifice means to give up something. In this case, neither god nor his boy gave up anything.
That has happened a few times lately!
Like doctors who claim to have a cure for cancer or who perform back street abortions?
Does that mean we get rid of ALL doctors as well
Geez Hitler claimed to be Catholic too and we know how deluded that guy was.
Nah ,people use God/Godname ,because they think the world will pay attention.
In a way they do. But the focus should be on justice.
Is the person a true murderer etc ,not is he Christian or not.
There are many more Christians who do not murder,and kill.If they commit acts of atrocities based on those reasons, religion/race or status, then they should be treated differently.
Hence, the reasoning for the justice system.
Yup. When hell freezes over.
I was reading an article about this on Yahoo last night and the comments were predictably full of morons declaring the act "more proof" of the violent, cowardly nature of Muslims.
One hopes that a few of them are eating crow today, but if TattedKaju's reaction is anything to go by, they're probably too busy claiming the guy is not a "true Christian" to admit that they made complete fools of themselves.
Now they're blaming cooks ???
Hey now, I used to be quite the Epicurean!
Not so much Epicurus, as his Garden Variety Essays bugged me for years. ( jeje, get it, garden bugs..ne`er mind. ).92 people dead at the hands of a self professed Conservative Christian and you are defending this religion and making jokes.
jejehttp://blogs.voanews.com/breaking-news/ … ertilizer/
See the wurds "fundamentalist Christian" ?
Dear me. Make some more jokes to show us how much you care. Wun sezs fun-d, da oddu con sir vativ. Needer iz fax-u-ul.
Jus da fax Marcus, jus da fax.
Innnet dat wut yur sienz n instink sez? proobable faks only?!
Speculation & Determinism is what inspires every war.
No wonder why you are so angry and need to fight to defend your beliefs.
YOU tell me what you believe. I asked you first. It is your beliefs that I'm questioning, not mine. Or are you saying that you agree that your belief is imaginary nonsense.
So are you admitting that Satan is just made-up nonsense, JUST for delusional believers?
Well..If youre not a Christian ,you are probably not worried about Sin
What is deemed impossible humanly speaking is not deemed impossible to God.
And God promises to tranform us daily, toward perfection.
Note I said ~~>toward perfection.
Its not a daily dose of self help ,with certificates and applauds at the end of a course, its a daily reconnecting of our thoughts ,attitudes and behavious to copy Christs behaviour...til finally we emerge from a human slug to a perfect butterfly...
You get the picture.
- Sherlock221bposted 13 years ago
0Yet you have no problem TRUSTING that a 2000 year old book, written by MEN, was dictated to them by the CREATOR of existence!
How do you know that some of these men didn't sell their grandmothers? Yet you have no problem believing their BS.
It is the individual that is on trial, however it is his psychological profile that sometimes establishes motive...which could include his religious indoctrination. That's just reality.
I see, tossing word salad like the others.
do you know what Straw Man theory is? Probably not.
But, I'll play along, show me facts, not speculation but facts, that Christianity is/was the 'bloodiest' of all over centuries. I'll wait.
Lastly, apparently you are ignorant to what the meaning of science is and where it was birthed, err, berthed. But, I'm not surprised, most do not know. They do not understand their own duality, nor how science designed and founded every single construct of Theos throughout history, the pragmatics of humanism, and precisely why it is the 'creator' of these sensationalistic expressions (often titled religion).
Dear me, no wonder why your belief system causes so many conflicts.Wait, you went from "the bloodiest of all" to just "having a hand in"
Untrue. The largest Slave Trade in history is Asia. It superseded African, Native Island and Pacifica enslavement by multi-millions.
History doesn't lie, nor care about your belief system, sorry to be the one to tell you that.I never said "the bloodiest of all" There you go with the straw man again.
My words were " Christianity is one of history’s bloodiest religions." See what happens when you readAsian slave trade is still the largest and worse of all slave trades. for over 3,000 years they have been doing it and no one cares. They put the Egyptians to shame. Perhaps you have never heard of the Babylonians. Clearly, you are so well educated yet only wanting to spew hate speech against religions you helped create --and now you want to destroy-- to hide the evidence of your humanism. I see very clearly.
ps, I said multi millions not 100 million.
But still, lets mark the cards: how many people has science killed in the name of their gods, put in their temples called museums, laboratories, etc.Actually, my apologies, I stand corrected regarding Constantine I and his war in the name of Christianity, it lasted only 30 years, not 100. The last small war over Christianity was found as a civil war in France.
By the way, in answer to your question about Asia, yes. Their slave trade continues to this day. Nearly 1.7 Billion present citizens of China are slaves to a non-theistic ruler. And lets not forget Laos, Sri Lanka, Tibet, Korea, etc. Had it not been for the US and europe, Russia would never have gone Commune. They did very well under orthodox ideologies. Very well, for a very long time.
End Rant.
Roman Empire was Christian, really?
For about 100 years, tops. The Roman Empire has existed looooooooooooooooong before Christianity. It was around long before the Greco-Meso Empire.
Do you know when the Roman Empire began and what it came from? And especially Who?
All that in support of the most psychotic far-outeum myth imaginable!
Religion is a joke best played on the gullible..... a word soup that the world's mentally handicapped can mould to fit their need to control others when the problem is they can't control themselves.
Santa with attitude.
http://godisimaginary.com/i7.htm- Sherlock221bposted 13 years ago0
I don't see that as any threat, at all.
As said, the constructs of humanism are on their last leg.
Religion, Science/Technology, Politics, Sexuality, everything has reached its apex. Humanism is about to end, finally, to the betterment of humanity. Is humanity ready? We can only hope.Yes, Really. Not to sound cliche, but the signs are everywhere.
That is a conjectural question? I have no religion nor see that any religion -by equation (science) nor sensation (titled religion) of any genuine value to mankind. Theos (the constructs of science and sense) is near its end. Humanism -even this new found Quality- has climaxed.
Why was or is it the responsibility of sensation only to 'create a paradise'? That kind of thinking exemplifies --and amplifies-- perfectly, typical humanistic reason. According to sciences reason, man has had 250,000 years. So, in actuality, if there was to be responsibility, certainly science would be. But it cannot be either, as it is a construct of humanism.
Modern? That gave me a chuckle. Apparently history only counts post industrial revolution? Post Darwin? Dear me. And precisely what has man achieved??? He managed to melt the already here metals of earth to make weapons and what-not. Build machines with those metals to pretend he made something? Or by observing a thing decided what it was and from where it came? Ooooo, I am so NOT impressed. Compared to, say, one of those 'muon' science has observed, everything man has made or dismantled collectively is piss and wind. Science has no fact, no real empirical evidence. It has what sensation has -what it accuses sensation of only having: imperialism, megalomania, ego, pride, prejudice, psychopathy and clearly an appetite for [self] destruction. The god of science is the same as the god of sensation -the self. Now, you have swung to Strawman Theory? No such animal as a New World Order. It is a scare tactic of humanism, a goading from a shwashbuckler, at the end of a pitiful play/existence. Logic has nothing to do with reason. And if you understood that, you would understand also why the limitations of science and religion continue to keep you ignorant and terrified. Ignorance IS reason, as reason is biased to the self and its goals, desires, determinations -caring nothing for the other or another, without self gain, feeling of accomplishment, general satisfaction, sustenance, authority, power, prestige or contentment/complacency of responsibility. In short, it pretends genuine affection, imposes affliction but demands in return, respect and adoration.
All those things you mention are the elements of the MANY dark ages of human history, yes as well as the enlightened ages of humanism. The 14th century has ended, if I recall correctly. Science slithered from its dank dungeon as religion began collapsing in on itself. Science once more ignited the fire under sensationalism to sustain the concept of Theos it created. Yes, my friend, science fashioned religion many, many moons ago. [I won't elaborate, but if you want to see it, study history closely and with open eyes].
Now, look at the result of humanism. Look long and hard. Be real -and certainly, if you claim rational- look at it rationally, from all vantage points. Humanism has failed since its inception. And it now fights, with gasping breaths, for life. An old, decrepit couple. The roof they tried so desperately to hold the house of duality together -this thing called quality of life and personal determination- failed. There is nothing for humanism to fall back on.
But yes, there is something altogether ancient coming -returning actually. Something that existed long before humanism's inception: Altruism. If the term evolution can be applied, then this is the next phase of human evolution. It is beyond necessity, beyond gods and gauges, beyond quantum and want `em. Where man doesn't need weapons of steel and glass nor hell, fire and brimstone to protect or deflect that emptiness, longing. Where mechanics and woo-la-la cannot take nor reveal; where his thinking returns to what is was: a processor of genetically programed information, allowing him to one more understand. And with that understanding be transformed into what he once was. A creation of such uniqueness and perfection, one that understood who, what, why and how. A creation consumed and living in Free Will. Void of the choice necessity. Void of need and not needing hope. Call it Grace, Free Will, whatever you like.
It is inevitable.
James.
- James it's nice to see the love!
Thank Earnest. I just had to finally say it, it is inevitable. Everyone will be transformed. Psychopathy-Shmopothy, religion- pigeon, science-shmience -its all irrelevant.
James, your god of the bronze age has no more effect than does any other mythical being.
No one is going to kiss*ss just because your beliefs say so.
"Conservative Christian" seems to be missing from your nonsensical diatribe. Oh well - why bother with the lil things?
And - Conservative Christian means the same in Europe as it does in the USA.
All Christians are the same
That cant be right, because I thought I was most definately better than everyone elseCags- As you dont know ALL Christians ,I think that is a very ignorant statement to make.
And if they did ,you label them liars? who says your analyses is correct?
Your "works" seem to consist solely of attacking anyone who does not believe garbage.
LOL Not a real Kristian then? LOLOL Keep defending the faith. No matter how many die or are raped - them int reel Kristians iz they?
Indoctrination causes blindness apparently.
Well you know they say "love" is blind...I guess all the "christian love" has caused some serious blindness...
Jesus liberated women-havent you heard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus%27_i … with_women
Some of you guys really need to get into the New Testamant a lot more
Ok. So God killed them for lying...Gotcha...
Yea the world would have given him a promotion for lying.
Kill 'em then? What a loving attitude.
I deny the holy spirit all the time.
Crikey. 80 kids have been shot and you are posting this garbage in defense of your religion?
Liars for Jesus (TM)
Here is some up-to-date information with words from the man himself.
http://www.christianpost.com/news/norwa … vik-52749/
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/anders-br … d=14152129
- EmpressFelicityposted 13 years ago0
His own words put the American left's stories and accusations to the lie.
This man was not a Christian in any religious sense of the word.
Just another psycho-NAZI Democrat Leftist.
What is nice, is that America now seems to understand perfectly well that there is a great difference between an American and European "Right Winger", and America seems to know very well that a European "Right-Winger", is nothing more than an American Leant Leftist NAZI-Socialist Democrat.
It is a beautiful day in America.This may surprise you, but I agree it has the qualities of selflessness, as it does the most good to that which is not directly self.
But..... the icing on top is that it is wonderfully useful to self, and in that sense is the same as much good moral behaviour. Rewarding to self in many ways.
Collectively. (better treatment of each other brings many benefits)
Individually. Some call it a good vibe, or see it as building karma, but either way it feels good.
All good selfish stuff.
Yes - religious people are lying and saying this to defend their irrational beliefs.
This is why your religion causes so many conflicts. You are not taught to tell the truth.Nope - still not feeling love from you. Nothing but animosity. Guess that makes you a liar destined to burn in hell.
Your choice sweetie. Oh well.You want to discuss facts in a religious forum?
Yeah good luck with finding a religionist who offers up any facts or evidence. I have been here almost 3 years and all I have seen is the "proof" religion offers to itself from it's own book.
Everything else is ignored.
God is true because the bible says so!
I actually agree to that. People have created many religions, fought against each other over it and there are so many religions out there today. (Who knew God could appear on Earth so many times? !
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